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WEATHER. Rain this afternoon and probably tonight; tomorrow fair and colder. Temperature for twenty-two hours ended at noon today: Highest, 48, at 4 p.m. yesterday; lowest, 41, at 4 am. today. . | New York Stock Market Closed Today No. 28,333, Entersd ss second-ciase matter WASHINGTON, D. C, DELEGATES CONFER INGROUPS ON NEW SSUEINFAREAST Outstanding Point Conflict of Views Between British and Chinese. FRENCH RAISE QUESTION OF SCOPE OF AUTHORITY Japanese Not to Oppose Examina- tion of Their Famous 21 Demands. By the Associated Press. Although formal proceedings of the arms conference had been suspended for Thanksgiving day, it was expect- ed to be one of only nominal rest for -the delegates and that in the ahsence of any meetings of the con- ference or its subdivisions, the ne- ®otiations would continue to be press- ed through consultations among the various individuals and groups. As developments in the conference stood today, the outstanding point of interest appeared to be the con- flict of views between the British and Chinese delegations in their inter- pretation of the four adopted Root principles as applying to the ques- tion of fiscal autonomy for China. View of British. The British view, as authoritative- 1y stated following the committee meeting of the nine delegations yes- terday — that the Root resolutions ‘were adopted by the powers as ac- eording with acceptance by China of a financial consortium, pooling of railroad comcesslons and continued supervision of China's customs—would mean, in the opinion of the Chinese delegation, an internationalization of that country's economic resources. They declared committee discussions had brought forth no expression by the delegates of the British view: The Chinese delegation proposed on the question of tariff that full au- tonomy be restored to their govern- ment by three stages, the first per- mitting an.immediate increase in the maximum to which China's import duties are now restricted. Frenéh Raise Question. The French-delegation in connection with this proposal raised another ele- ment of uncertainty in the proceedings when they pointedly asked the Chinese delegates by what authority they pre- sumed to speak for all of China over the protests n‘g the_southern government at Canton. The Chinese repiied that they were representing the only government ‘who to raise objections to the c¢onsideration of details of the By the Assoclated Press. American officials are giving some thought to the possibility of salvaging as non-combatant naval or as com- mercial craft the three new battleships now afloat, but which would not be completed .under Secretary Hughes naval limitation and reduction plan. They are hopeful that in fixing the methods of scrapping the conferees will not make an arbitrary rule that would require the ships to be sunk or other- wise totally destroyed. It is possible, shipbuilding experts asserted today, that the Colorado, Wash- ington and West Virginia could be con- verted Into serviceable Intermediate liners for commercial use purely. The method in which battleships are put together, it is said. would make this a | mechanical possibility without pro- | hibitive cost. Or it might be possible, |it was suggested, to turn one or more of the trio into repair or supply ships for the fleets, though high cost of opera- tion might prevent this expedient. Question of Methods Untouched. The question of just how ships slated to be scrapped are to be dealt with was not treated in Secretary Hughes' pro- posals. That matter was specifically re- served for joint determination, presum- ably after the main points of the holi- day and limitation agreement had been settled. e As to the possible commercial value of the battleships after reconstruc- tion, it was stated that they could be turned into cargo and passenger-car- rying craft with the removal of ar- mor belts and guns and turrets and would have an economical speed of perhaps 16 to 18 knots. There is a FRANCE IS WARNED OF ISOLATED STAND British Foreign Minister Sees Eventual Failure to Pro- tect Self. By the Associated Press. LONDON, November 24.— Marquis Curzon of Kedleston, British secre- tary of state for foreign affairs, speaking at a luncheon in London to- day, declared that if France pursued an isolated and .individual policy of her own she would not in the long run injure Germany and she would fail to protect herself. far east, came forward yesterday with # suggestion that they would not oppose «n examination of their famous “twen- tv-one .demands” treaty with China to ascertgin whether it conflicts with the “open | door."” LORD LEE, DELEGATE / TO CONFERENCE, IS ILL Confined to Bed by Chill and May Be Eept From Arms Meetings for Several Days. Wy thie Associated Press. illness of another delegate to the armament conference was reported today. Lord Lee of Fareham, first lord of the British admiralty and ranking delegate to Arthur J. Balfour, head «f Great Britain's delegation, was comfined to his bed today with a severe chill. It was said by British delegation members that it prob- ably would be several days before Lerd Lee would be able to resume his place in conference discussions. Baron Shidehara, Japanese ambas- sador here and one of Japan's dele- gates, who is suffering from inflama- tien of the kidneys following over- work and a slight nervous break- dewn, was described today as rest- ing easier. Complete rest and olose medical attention for two weeks will be necessary, it was said by Japanese delegation members. UKRAINIAN MOVEMENT AGAINST SOVIET FAILS By the Associated Press. WARSAW, November 24.—The move- ment against the Russian soviet gov- ernment by the Ukrainians has come to an end, Gen. Simon Petlura and his officers having abandoned the cam- palgn. Kiev, Kamenetz-Podolsk, Winnitza and other places reported to have been captured by Petlura's forces were never seriously menaced. Gen. Petlura's latest campaign against the Russian government be- gan in the spring of this year. He was reported to have entered Kiev at the head of Ukrainian revolution- ary troops March 2, and to have ex- ecuted the bolshevist commissaries there. The subsequent movements of his force were reported to have caused alarm in Moscow, and the soviet government dispatched notes to Poland and Rumania as a conse- The reported capture of Kamenetz-Podolsk November 4 was led at the time by the British fon In Warsaw. BEATTY DENIES “SWANK.” Wears Cap at Rakish Angle Be- cause of Bump. Ear] Beatty, admiral of the British | i fleet and sea lord, has been accused of “swank” and “putting on di be: he invariably wears cau navy cap rakishly cocked over his_right eye. He has denied this!/ unjust libel on his otherwise spot- less character and military appear- ance, “ not affectation at all,” insisted the hero of the battl Jutla it's a bump on my head. ‘With that he removed the much-talked-of cap and pointed out a slight protrusion on the back of his skull. “Tha he explained, “catches the tight-fitting headgear right amidships when worn on an ‘even keel’ and since 1 found it always gave me & headache in that fashion. I ive it a bit of a lst like this. what any one else would have done, what?” cl ACCEPTS RESPONSIBILITY FOR GOVERNMENT’S ACTS French Cabinet Ready to Stand or Fall on Vote of Confidence, Says Acting Premier. PARIS, November 24.—The French cabinet, through Laurent Bonnevay, acting premier, in the chamber of deputies, accepted full responsibility for the government'’s actions. M. Bon- nevay said the cabinet was ready to stand or fall on a vote of confidence, regardless of the absence of Premier Briand in the United States. “What would happen if the premier stayed away for two or three years?” M. Bonnevay asked when refusing to accept a suggestion for postponement of a final vote on financial interpola- tions until Premier Briand returns. After ending a long-drawn-out de- bate the chamber decided to discuss tomorrow a number of financial ques- tions outlined in various reésolutions of confidence in the government. SIBERIANS ON WAY HERE. Delegation to Present Economic Sit- uation to Arms Meeting. SEATTLE, Wash., November 24.— An unofficial delegation from Vladi- vostok today is en route to Washing- ton to present eastern Siberia's eco- nomic situation to the armament con- ference. P. P. Goudkoff, former secretary of trade and industry for the Siberian government, heads the delegation. Its secretary and interpreter is Miss T. Stadnichenko. ‘The delegation announced that the provisional anti-bolshevik govern- ment in Vladivostok is preparing to call a constituent assembly to work out a permanent government. SEES WORLD COME-BACK. Ambassador Herrick Cheered by Ametican Club in Paris. PARIS, November 23.—Members of the American Club in Paris and their guests«sat down to a Thanksgiving dinner tonight. They cheered the American ambassador, Myron T. Her- rick, when he said the thing to be most thankful for was “that the world is coming back, thanks to the Washington conference.” “We have been finding ourselves during a hard year.” Mr. Herrick de- clared. “We are coming back again. The first toscin sounded at Washing- tan, and America is going to co-op- erate in the restoration of a broken down, saddened world. We can all thank God tonight that we are Americans.” HOPE TO SAVE WARSHIPS FOR COMMERCIAL CRAFT American Officials Giving Thought to Possi- bility of Salvaging Doomed Three NewBat- tleships as Non-Combatant Vessels. lack of ships of this class, it was added, in the existing American merchant marine. A naval experfs dealing with Secretary Hughes' proposals has not yet reached the point ‘of considering methods of scrapping. It is still hammering away at the innumerable technical details involved in the plan. While there may have been already tentative agree- ment on certain elements, these might well be contingent upon -the decision reached later on some other phase. and in this situation no announcements of a partial nature as to progress made are to be looked for; it is sald. Little Progress Made. After almost two weeks of delibera- tion the American naval reduction and limitation program stands about where it was at the beginning, with the only formal statement as to counter pro- posals being the announcement of Ad- miral Baron Kato for Japan that he would see ka slightly higher general tonnage in capital ships and an equal tonnage in certain purely defensive craft. Informal glimpses from many sides have indicated that the Japanese desire to retain the. battleship Mutsu and capital craft, making a “10— ratio . instead of Secretary pased “5—5—3."” It is also y well established taat defensive ships referred.to by Baron Kato were monitors, although it has been indicated since that Japan might also seek equal tonnage in airplane carriers. The conference came to the Thanks- giving recess, however, with every sign that the American group was standing firm _in_its original position for the “5. 3 ratio” and exclusion of the Mutsu from the Japanese retained fleet. Officials close to the inner circle of the discussions plainly indicate their belief that ultimately Japan will accept this program. SHIP SIZE LIMITED BY PANAMA CANAL Real Reason for Hughes’ 35,- 000-Ton - Stipulation Be- lieved Use of Waterway. BY DAVID LAWRENCE. The real reason for the proposal of | Secretary Hughes ana the -American | Navy that hereafter no,‘battleships |shall be bullt by any ghtion larger than 35,000 tons is just éoming to the Hug: prett, —5- surface. The Unfted States @oes Fot | bani Wwish to have any. battleships too large to go through the Panama canal. Before the/ present confer- ence was convened fand the armament race was at its Heighth, there w: talk of 50,000 and 60,000 ton battle- ships to be bult by Japan. This would have beeh met by the con- struction of Amferican battleships of equal size, but] these vessels would have been vajuable to the United States only in fhe Pacific, where they would have bad to be kept most of the time. { American nhval policy, at least for he. present; jcontemplates a fleet di- vided between the Atlantic and Pacific, and one of the chief values of the canal is that strategically it gives the United States great defensive strength. The disadvantage of having vessels in the Pacific which must round Capt Horn was conspicuously illustrated in the Spanish-American war when Capt. Clarke made his memorable trip from Pacific to At- lantfc waters to assist the squadrons off the Cuban coast. . Can Accommodate 40,000 Tons. The Panama canal is able at pres- ent to accommodate -vessels with a displacement of more than 40,000 tons comfortably, but the engineers who built the ditch did not contemplate ships greater than 110 feet width. There are now no vessels afloat as wide as this. So the Hughes proposal affects only the future. It reads as follows: “That no capital ship shall be bullt in replacement with a tonnage dis- placement of more than 35,000 tons.” Mr. Hughes gave no reasons or argument for the foregoing sugges- tion, but naval experts now realize what was back of it. Of course, there were other reasons for this limita- tion, such as stabilizing the value of existing battleships and armament. When the Panama canal was bullt, there was considerable discussion about the future size of battleships and some engineers advocated a width of at least 120 or 130 feet and now experts are inclined to agree that the ditch shopld have been wider than 110 feet. As for length, the newest type of battle cruisers are approximately 900 feet long, while the locks are not much more than 1,000 feet in length. No Handicap to Japan. There are those who believe that good fighting craft of as much as 60,000 tons displacement could be built with a width of 108 feet, which would enable them to pass through the canal, but while American ships would have to meet that handicap this would not be the case with Japanese battleships, which have no special reason for ‘wanting to get into the Atlantic quick- ly. The limitation to 35,000 tons will have the effect, therefore, of placing the United States on a parity with Japan with respect to all new battle- ships built to replace those which may become obsolete during the ten-year naval holiday. Under the Hughes proposals, the (Continued on Page 2, Column 6.) 13,000 POUNDS OF TURKEY FALL BEFORE U. S. SOLDIERS ON RHIN, COBLENZ, November 24.—Eleven thonsand American soldiers, sta- tioned op the Rhine, tucked away 13,000 pounds of turkey as the plece de resistance of their Thanksgiving dinner. There were the usual “trimmings” of cran- berries, raisin and pumpkin ple and piping hot plum pudding. Many units with mess funds added to their menu roast duck, pig, goose and chicken, and even pheasants and venison, which are plentiful and cheap this year. While the plum pudding and pumpkins for the ple were sent from the United States, the tur- keys were bought from German farmers and cost only 11 cents a pound, as compared with 80 cents paid last year for turkeys shipped from America. The families of the 300 officers had home-fed tur- keys raised on the quartermas- ter's farm near here, and costing the officers 30 cents a pound. Nearly every unit was represent- ed in the foot ball games, of which a score were held, and every man was entertained by some form of sport or attended the concerts and vaudeville program staged by the welfare organizations throughout the American occupational area. So far as known, the committee of’ Poening St WITH SUNDAY MORNING EDITION IFRANCE HAS HOPES NATIONS WILL GIVE FIRM GUARANTEES Failure to Make Specific Pledge for Protection Not Regarded Discouraging. MORAL BACKING VIEWED AS AMPLE FOR PRESENT Premier Briand, on Eve of De- parture, Expresses Satisfaction Over Cordial Sentiments Voiced. BY N. 0. MESSENGER. Omission of presentation to the armament conference of a specific pledge of the former allied and asso- ciated powers to guarantee protection to France in case of that nation's material reduction of land forces is not regarded by the French delega- tion as defeat of their object. It is held that the moral support contained in the declarations of the last plenary session of the conference serves the purpose for the present. Premier Briand, on the eve of his departure from Washington, express- ed satisfaction with the cordial senti- ments expressed toward France, in the circumstances of her own especial problems and position, and avowed himself as content for the time being at least with the assurance of the moral backing, next best in value to definite promise of aid. Likely Future Action. Naturally he hopes that before ad- Jjourning the conference may go a step farther and announce in terms more explicit response to the French desire for the allaying of all appre- hension in the future. .Whether that hope may be realized is an uncertain quantity at this time. The drift of sentiment appears to be to let the spoken words of the plenary session stand as sufficient guarantee to France. Should there be a change in the at- titude of the conference later, to the more definite comfort of France, it would be due to two possible elements —crystallization of public sentiment in this country in favor of entering into a binding obligation to support France and an outburst of French ex- pression demanding material promise instead of the moral aid mow pro- posed. As to the first suggestion. public interest in_this country in favor of an enlarged program of support, it is thought that it would depend upon e _amount -of clamor raised nce for additional promises. other wor it the French people are content, as Premier Briand and | the delegation express themselves as being with the offer of moral strength held out, the American public would probably be satisfled to “let it go at that” May Be Politieal Issue. It is readily recognized that an is- sue might be raised in American poli- tics by a proposition to write out a formal declaration of intent to stand by France in certain exigencies. one at this moment has the right to claim possession of sufficient knowl- edge of the actual state of public sentiment in this country to warrant prediction of the outcome of such an issue, although all surface signs point to widespread sympathy with France and deep and sympathetio .under- standing of the conditions which sur- round and menace her. There is no question, it is thought, that there would be material indrose- 'ment of a more definite stand in France's support, and neither can it be denied that a potential bloc in the United States Senate would oppose it, unless convinced that it was the overwhelm- ing demand of the country at large. Expected Phase. Looking forward to the ultimate com- position of the conflicting views en- gendered in the branch, of the confer- ence dealing with far eastern questions, it is pointed out that this is only a phase naturally to be expected in the formative process now going on and does not stand as an omen of failure. It is suggested that the concur- rence of the powers in the principle and spirit of the determination of the far eastern problems is a fixed fact of record in the proceedings and that the application of the principle to detail would necessarily involve friction, ex- pression of divergent opinions an analyses, without foreshadowing fail- ure. That the great international meet- ing would at all times take the form of an old-fashioned religrous “love feast"” hard-headed -and practical men who are taking part in it. But neither does it follow, it is claimed, that the |cular, differing views are ursusceptible of being_reconciled through concession and the give and take spirit which seems pervasive of the conference. Today’s News In Bri American officials hope to doomed new warships by converting them into liners. Na! THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 1921—-THIRTY PAGES. (THANKSGIVINGEC DAY IF YoURWZ: COLLAPSE OF ISH NEEOTIATIONSNEAR Sinn Fein Befusal to Accept Allegiance to King Held of Extreme Import. ULSTER STILL OBSTACLE High Authorities See Failure Un- less Favorable Turn Comes at Once. By the Associated Press. LONDON, November tiations for an Irish feared to be nearing end, according to a high authority today, and there is apprehension that next week may witness their collapse unless more favorable circumstances, not only foreseen, shall develop. It is stated that Ulster is no longer presenting the sole obstacle, but that the Sinn Fein has refused to accept allegiance to the king, although will- ing to take the oath to an Irish con- stitution. Furthermore, and equally impor- tant, it is added, the Sinn Feln will not agree to a veto of Irish legisla- tion by the British crown. Purpose of Sinm Feiners. 24.—The nego- settlement are 1 f l 335-POUND “DEVIL DOG” RE-ENLISTS IN SERVICE; QUARTERMASTER S. 0. S. The fighting tonnage of the Marine Corps was increased by 335 pounds today, when Gunnery Sergt. James D. Turreziani of Philadelphia, re-enlisted. The en- listment of this six-footer is hailed with delight in all depart- ments except the quartermaster’s. His number twelve shoes, how- ever, stand him in good stead, for on a forty-mile hike in Haiti, re- cently, he finished with two rifles, three packs and one exhausted re- cruit under his arm. NEACDISFR ONRECORATION an untavoranie|Secret Efforts to Gain Favor of U. S. Vigorously Denied by Secretary Pani. By tlie Associated Press. MEXICO CITY, November 24.—The Mexican government will stick to its previously announced program relative to recognition by the United States. Al- berto J. Pani, foreign secretary, makes this clear in a written statement issued in answer to recent newspaper articles which declared that a change in the government’s policy was contemplated. “It is not true that the present Mexi- can government has begged or is beg- The Sinn Fein idea is said Yo be aging for recognition by the United completely independent Irish state, although loosely- connected with the other states in the empire. Acts of parliament creating British domin- ions give the king the power of ve- toing all legislation, but by constitu- tional usage this veto is now never exercised. The Sinn Fein, however, is declared to have made known its be- lef that a similar veto power regard- ing Ireland would constatntly be used at the will of the British cabinet. The government regards this diffi- culty as fundamental, it is asserted, and should the Sinn Fein attitude 1e main unchanged, the negotiations, it is declared in high quarters, must come to an end. Ulster, apart from its objection to any all-Ireland parliament, Is keenly insistent upon allegiance to the crown. It is believed that a conference held this morning in the house of lards by Lord Birkenhead, the lord high chancellor; Sir Gordon Hewart, the attorney general, and Arthur Griffith, Michael Collins and George a | Gavan Duffy, dail eireann represent- atives, was G&cupied with debate over the constitutional principles involved. Seeret Circular Withdrawn. Sir James Craig, the Ulster premier, is not contemplated by the|pngs ordered the withdrawal of what has been described as a secret cir- issued recently from the divisional commission of the royal Irish constabulary at Belfast, which, according to Dublin dispatches, said 1 States,” says the statement, which adds that the policy enunciated by President Obregon in his message to congress last September remains unchanged. In this connection the statement asserts that the government is not engaged in *‘buy- ing eulogies or purchasing silence,” and that the foreign office in its budget for next year has made no provision for; ‘secret expenses” or propaganda. Denial is also made that Elmer Dover, ‘who was recently reported to have car- ried communications from President Obregon to President Harding contain- ing appeals for early recognition of the Mexican government, is in_ any way connected - with the Obregon govern ment. All such necessary correspond- ence will be conducted through the regular diplomatic channels,” the state- ment adds. L. Lanier Winslow, who arrived re- cently to assume the post of first secre- tary in the United States embassy, will be received by Secretary Pani today FARES CUT.TO FIVE CENTS Commission Denounces. Service on Chicago Surface Lines. CHICAGO, November 24.—The Iilinois commerce commission last night issued an order reducing street car fares in Chicago _from 8 cents to 5 cents, effec- tive Fridav. The order asserted that a return of 6 per cent on “the fair value" of the property was a just return on the in- the government was considering the :vestment and ordered that a revalu- desirability of forming the unauthor- ized loyalist defense forces into regu- lar military units only to be called save | gut in grave emergency. The Ulster premier declared that Page 1|pe approved recruiting for specion Size of Panama canal responsible for | constabulary in event of the truce be- stipulated ship tonnage. Collapse of Irish negotiations feared by high authorities. Page 1 Brilllant reception held in honor of conference delegates. Page 2 Applying golden rule to save fallen ;h’ll, plan of House of Mercy. Page . A. Freeman, addressing Ro- tarians, predicts conference success. Page 2 Shipbuilders show concern over naval reduction program. Page 3 Dr. Koo proposes restoration of right to fix tariff to ina. Page 3 Delegates confer in groups on new complication over China. Page 3 Marshal Foch, on second visit to Har- Tisburg, plants tree. Page 3 Rallroads propose trial 10 per cent freight rate cut, with reduction in wages. Page & Inquiry ordered on rail rate cut. Page § Defense claims several points at Lan- dru murder trial. Page 7 Prince’ of Wales scores personal triumph in Bombay. Page 7 Awards prizes at poultry show. . Page 14 Members of Congress rush home for Thanksgiving. Page 16 Appeal for protection against Argen- ll’l':’la bandits. Page 17 Jail terms for four members of ‘tile combine stir United States agents to further action. . . Page 17 President signs tax-revision bill. 4 Page 23 £ SN RY Page 1 |ing terminated, but not for the forma- tion of recruits into regular military units. “The constabulary,” he added, “was never transferred to the government of northern Ireland. Recruits may (Continued on Page 2, Column 8.) ation of the lines be made and sub- mitted to tae commission. The commission’s order declared that the service rendered by the surface lines was “grossly inadequate and inefficient”" and said that-the reduced rate of fare ardered was reasonable for the service rendered. Extravagance and inefficiency in the operation of. the su lines was charged and the present rates were termed “unjust, unreasonable and ex- cessive.” The decision applied only to surface lines. T T First Official Photograph Of Conference on Limitation of Armament In Session In the Rotogravure Section of Next Sunday’s Star With this superb half-page picture goes an ac- curate diagram showing how each delegate is seated. The picture you have been waiting for. Order your copy of next Sunday’s Star from newedealer toda: the supply will be limited. y, as Member of the Associated Press The Associated Press is exclusively entitled to the use for republication of all news dispatches credited to it or not otherwiss credited in this paper and also the local news published herels All rights of publication of special dispatches bereln are alse reserved. Yesterday's IALLIES AT 0DDS ON REPARATIONS Payments Subsequent to February Only Insisted on by French. OTHERS FEAR BIG CRASH Will Recommend Action to Clear German Dilemma. BY HIRAM K. MODERWELL. By Cable to The Star and Chicago Daily News. Copyright. 192! | PARIS, France November 24.—Al- jtheugh the reparations commission, which has just returned from Berlin, agrees that Germany can and must make the January and February payments, it is in profound disagreement concerning the subsequent attitude which the al- bers of the commission consider that the subsequent payments are virtual- Iy impossible under present condi- tions, and will urge their respective governments to take some sort of international action to prevent an impending crash and to restore Ger- many to economic soundness in the interest of world prosperity The Freffch members nsist, however, on payment to the uttermost, and the newspapers here adopt an equally | firm tone, though they admit the pos- i sibility of German bankruptcy. One reason fer this attitude was frankly stated to the writer by Etienne Gros- claude, who is peculiarly qualified to express the views of French indus- trial interests. He said: “In the interest of world peace Ger- many must be disarmed financially. France is menaced by a German threat of a war of revenge: it is actively preached by the junkers. France must be protected, but a military alliance for this purpose is not feasible, first, be- icause the United States will not consent to it and, second, because the next war will be by airplanes, explosives and poison gas. Germany could spread destruction over France in three days, whereas months would be required to send foreign armies to our aid. “German industry is a vast potential war munitions plant for airplanes and explosive gas. It feeds on money and benefits from special privileges, namely, advantageous railroad tariffs, special facilities for obtaining credits, freedom frmm legitimate taxation and similar TS, ‘With these advantages German in- dustry is able to drive French, English and American goods from many markets. The allies must insist that Germany pay the reparations, first, because they are just debts: second, because Germany must be obliged to tax her industries to remove their unfair advantagé, and, third, because she must be disarmed financially.” M. Grosclaude asserted that France must be permitted to build a large sub- marine fleet to protect the channel coast, which in the hands of an enemy would be a deadly menace to Britain. He urged that the United States should co-operate with France in these aims and sug- gested that it would find French Asiatic naval bases useful. These opposing views concerning the reparations will undoubtedly be the subject of serious negotiations between the allies and the United States in the near future. URGES LET-UP ON GERMAN !‘ . British Industries Committee De- cries Reparations Scheme. LONDON, November 24.— The fed- eration of British industries commit- tee announces that a volume of opin- ion here is growing to the belief that the present reparations scheme is un- reliable and that any attempt to en- force it will lead to the collapse of Germany. There should be, the com- mittee holds, a comprehensive agree- ment of all the allies, defining the |goods and services which Germany can provide, and indicating the lines along which German industries can develop without inflicting-serious in- jury on the industries of the allied countries. It is suggested by the committee that the restoration of the devastated areas might be placed further in Ger- man hands and ti German labor might be employed under allied en- gineers. Another suggestion made is the transference of obligations be- tween governments into obligations. between individuals by the creation of mortgages on German rallways ana shipping, such securities to be handed over to the allied governments, who would dispose of them to individuals, SHIP DRIFTS THREE WEEKS. KEY WEST, Fla, November 24.— ‘The four-masted schooner Albert W. Robinson, with Capt. Cook in com- mand and a crew of seven, came into port after having drifted three weeks B - as a result of the recent gulf storm. calst. ( ' Americans, English and Iuh‘usl lies should take toward Germany. The | { English, Italian and” American mem- | Net Circulation, 91,503 TWO CENTS. HOPE 1S HOLIDAY KEYNOTE INSPIRED BY ARMS MEETING Washington Churches Say Prayers for Successful Conclusion of Conference. PRESIDENT AND FOREIGN DELEGATES AT SERVICES Special Programs Rendered. Thanksgiving Enjoyed, Although Day Breaks With Rain. Scene of the conclave of nations striving to tighten the bonds of amity and minimize the provocations of war, the National Capital blended spirit of hope today wtib its observ- ance of Thanksgiving for the nation's weal. [} The day brought a pause not only the routine machinery of government. but to the overshadowing events of the international conference as well, affording an appropriate opportunity for reflection on the possibilities of achievement at its door. Prayers for the success of the con- ference formed the text of sermons in many of the capital's churches. with foreign delegates laying asi their fateful tasks to join with Amer- ican officldls in attending the sery- ices. a Oficials at Services. With President and Mrs. Harding, many of them attended those cou- ducted under the auspices of the Fed- eral Council of Churches of Christ in America at the Calvary Baptist Church. Ambassadors and other thembers of the South American diplomatic corps and members of Congress and Army and Navy officials joined in attendance at the annual pan-American mass at St. Patrick’s Church, which has be- come tradition in the capital's Thanks- giving day observance. Numbers of the foreign officials assigned here for the arms conference also arranged (o attend these services. A picturesque scene was presented {at the Metropolitan Memorial M. Church, where the annual national Thanksgiving service was held, with the Wesley Chapel, Hamline, Gorsuch, North Capitol, Trinity, Ryland, Wilson Memorial. Waugh and the host church | uniting_their services, together w the Junior Order of United Ameri Mechanics of the District. Needy Previded For. The Salvation Army, Gospel Mis- sion and other organizations took care of many of the city’s needy to- |day, good dinners being provided for {hundreds of persons and well-filled Thanksgiving baskets being taken tu {scores of homes throughtout the city. At the various institutions of the {city Thanksgiving was appropriately | observed. | Although the day dawned cold, the imorning being hours filled with thick fog and rain, such as perbaps the delegates from England {familiar with, the people of Washing- ton went to the places of worship with good cheer in their hearts and a determination to see the bright side of affairs national and international. | | SERVICES HELD IN PARIS. | American Churches Hear Words of Optimism on Armament. PARIS, November 24.—Hope that the Washington arms conference will succeed with the United States point- ing the way was expressed at Thanksgiving services held in the American churches in Paris last night At_one of the services President Harding’s Thanksgiving proclamation was read by the American consul general, Alexander M. Thackara, and the sermon was delivered by Ambas- sador Herrick. Thanksgiving dinners and dances were given by all the American or- ganizations, and art students from the United States held an all-night celebration in the Latin quarter. HANIHARA OPPOSES POOL OF KWANTUNG TERRITORY Defines China as Including Mon- golia and Manchuria—Ready to Yield Some. Vice Foreign Minister Hanihara, appointed yesterday as one of the principal delegates to the Washing- ton conference because of the fliness of Baron Shidehara, in an interview last night said that Japan might be ready to pool some of her Manchuria concessions in the new finaneial con- sortium for China, but that there were some she certainly would not be will- ing_to pool, particularly concessions in Kwantung leased territory, which had been won from Russia during the Russo-Japanese war. - Mr. Hanihara expressed the 'view that “China” includes Mongolia and Manchuria. He said, in_reply to question concerning the Root resolu- tions adopted by the conference, that he did not believe they went to the past of China and past policies of for- eign powers. He added, however, that if all powers insisted that these past policies should be examined under the Root resolutions they, of course, would be examined. ABROGATION OF TREATY DEPENDS ON SUBSTITUTE British Spokesmen Insist Tha{ An- glo-Japanese Pact Stands ¥n- less Something Develops. Spokesmen for the British 'empire continue to insist that the British, in- cluding the pendencies, will make no move toward the abrogation of the Anglo-Japanese treaty uniess some- thing is developed at the Whashington conference as a substitute fer the oid treaty of alliance. New jand was represented last night as taking this position as well as Austrilis However, it is not belieyed that the that there | [ Britigh do not underst will be no agreement for the limita- of naval armamept while the gontinues to tion Anxlo-Japanese treaty.