Chicago Daily Tribune Newspaper, September 9, 1881, Page 12

| | 4 3 i i 12 THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE “ PRIDAY, SEPTEMBER © 9. “1881 =TWELVE PAGES "THE TESTIMONY IN, And Dr. Thomas’ Counsel Now Have the Floor, The Ladies of Centenary Doubted the Orthodoxy of Their Pastor, And Had a Private Catechising of Him One Fine Day. The Dreadful Things He Said in the Hearing of Young Ohristians, He Doubted Joshua's Sun and “Ol Jub,” and Used the Word “Bost.” ° The Defendant Tells His Version of the Encounter with the Ladies, fAnd Also What He Remembers of the Memorable Preach- ers’ Meeting; That Is, Whatever Dr. Parkhurst Will Allow Him to Tell the Court, Reading of Extracts srom Sermons Delivered at Divers Times—Sheppard’s Are - gument, The Case May Possibly Go to the Jury This Evening, THE TRIAL RESUMED. ‘Tno'trial of the Rev, Dr, Thomas tor alleged heresy was resumed yesterday morning at 9 o'clock fn the tecture-room of Centenary Meth- odlstChureh. Tho attenianco ut tho start, out- aide of the Court, tho. fury, tho counsel in tho cuse, und the newspnper Deigade, numbered just leven persons, though tho progress of the duy brought with it the usunt inercase, ‘Tho vevotionn! exercises were conducted by tho Rev. Dr. Axtoll, of Kankakee, one of the counsel for the defense, who, in the course of his prayer, addressed a fervent Invocation to tho Throne of Grace for the recovery of Presl- deat Gartield. The jury being all present, Presiding Elder ‘Whillug directed the counsel to go nhoud, snying that nt the close Wednesday afternoon | Dr, arene see was on tho stand under cross-exatu- nation, Mr, Hennett—We desire to ask him nothing further. DISSATISFIED DAMES, ‘The next witness was Sophia A. Pholps, a me- dium-sized, middte-aged, sallow-complexioned Indy, who was dressod in binck and wore a very Jarge gold chain around her neck, After stating her name, Dr, Parkhurst asked: “In what employ are you?” “T teach at tho Centrat Park Sohool.” “Were you a member of Ceutenury Methodist Church and un attendunt when Dr. Thomas waa pastor?" “TL attended the first yonr of his pustorate, ud was & member all tho time.’ “Was there un occasion upon which you had a couversation with Dr. ‘Tuomas, ia company with pthors, upon the doctrines that be was teaching to your" “ Soveral Indios met tha Saturday before the conference of 1878, und discussed the doctrines tbat he had been preaching, Icau give you the Particulars of the meetiuy,’ “ Was Dr, Thomas present?” “He was," “ Do you recollect anything that was said with Teferdneo to the eifect of the blood of Christ by yoursel£ to Dr. Thomas, or by Dr. ‘Thomus to pets or by any ons olgoin the room to him, or ut to them 7 “In connection with Misa Hattio Murphy's quoting the verse, * Wo ovescomoe through the Dood of the Lamb,’ the quostion was asked, Hina the blood of tho Lamb nny significance? Tho anawor xlyon by Dr. Thoinas was: *No. We overcome through the tove of the Lamb. Or, Parkhurst—That ty all. Mr. Benuett—We have nothing, DANGEROUS DOCTRINES. Mm. Franels W. Benjamin, tho noxt witness, a more elderly Indy with gray balr, tostifed: “Twas a member of Contonary during Dr. ‘Thouins' pastorate, nnd was at the Indies’ meot+ jug. Wo became rathor dlasatlatled with tho doctrine he was preavbing, 1 bellevo, and we formed ouraclves into commmittee—o few Jadivs—catlod on him, and appointed the meot- ing, which was held here it this room, To the question + fs thore any othor way tu be siyod, except through tho blood of tha Lumby tho Doctor's unswer was, ‘Tho blood bus ucthing to do with its it is character,’ ‘To the question how he coult preach the Gospel without bellev= dn the whole Mivle, tha answer wits, *No sune jaan ean belleve the Bible as a whole. [re- suember hearing him praich asormon, during tho Heat sau ‘ot bis pastorate, In which be sail * He could not sve why, in the goodness af God, all should not be tual): eearoatt tay unlly restured in all tho ages. ‘The dotense watved the vross-examlnation, CATECIUSED BY TIE LADIES, Mrs. Maritin EK. Garrett, a very intelllgont Judy, followed. Sho testified: “1 attended Centenury Churet tho first year of Dr. Thomuay' pastorate, and was a member all tho timo, -2 was present ot the inveting at which Lis dcotrinal teaching was the aubjeet of dis- cussion, -Mrs, U, B, Curtor enld she felt a want of bls preaching Christ In bis sermons more than anything olko—that sho hud board him hold UpChrist ulonxside of Confucius, Buddha, ana other boathon philosophers, but that she bud never heard ulm hold up Christ aa fu atoning = =Buvlor; and = sho gal, “Why not answer tho skeptical mind by preaching Christ, fnatead of proaehing doubts?’ He replied that ho didn't want a hobby of preaching Christ—thut thore was enough df thom qround now—that tits Hite wos fverything forais; {twas our pattorn, J then asked hin tyself, ‘How about Chriat’a deuth?? He said that he looked upon the death of Chriat Very intich as the death of Stepben—thut He died a martyr to [fla cause," © Was unything suid at tho mooting avout the oan ration of the Buriptures?” Yeu" “What “Tusked bit why bo did not quote from aur Methodist Disetpliue, Art. 6, correctly tn bis éermon on Doubt and Doyiutivm,' he having suid ia that sermon, *1 will now quote from aur Divelpline,’ whieh say: ‘bo Hibte contains the Word of God," and no added, * but all in tho itito fa not the word of God, ‘to rd} ying that he didu't bulleve howe ci i ag une iudrod chu Be dune Helluva that \ i's BUN GVOr Ktour cl TIRES old Hole venti pole soe sae wea tt * Do you recnllvct auytivng that w sexurd'to probation after ‘duathe® user vith “Not in that wevting.” is pled Stine during his pitorater dau sermon on * Mature Punishment,’ preached ju thia churea the. rst year ut Als talnistry, be anid thy very dew of Gad Almighty sending goul to eternal punidhment —wite ull bor” And in one of the pastor's clases eve ufterneon, Ii a conversation of an hour, among other things be sald he was not sure Waetor there wus not a probation after death, oF the wicked, or whother they wore Not Cut Olt oot and brunch, 1h mii Es OnbE ratio said this Iu the presence: ere Was LU CrUns, THE LANGUAGE ADMITTED, Mr, Honnett—We bave heard the words read. from tho luter-Urcan, purporting to be the lane kuaye of Dr, ‘Vbotmas uttered in a sermon breached Nov, 23, 1880, and, to save any further time oa the quesog Of prool, we admit that Dr. Thomas uttered the words whleb have been | rond fn the Inter-Ocran, ‘Cho Preskiing Eider—Do they agree with tho language in tho charge? Mr. Bennett—Tho words aro tot iontienl. Thore is nsliyht variation, but we have accepte ed tho words In the Infer-Orean report. Parkhurst—Of vourac it depents on the tice to decide how far thoy agree with HuNKe. Vrestting Elitcr—Tho identifleatton Is not pete yet, ands tho words from the fiter+ “ant are therefore net fn. ir. Bennett—We have nover questioned Dr, 9. Wo have an exact copy of ‘e, and the gentiemen cin rend snid certain thing: Dre Onias Bald Ne ANotlio! satid, is ot material to this dence whether that [s the auld. Lobject to nnytning el ‘The Presiding Bider—The Chair has held that De. 'Fhomes his a right to state now what le entd at that meeting. ‘Tae question of unother the fa not beforo us yet. Dr. Thomnas—t said { was gind of it—that to taku the view of a literal penalty) Dela excenterl upon Christ out of the doctrine of the atonement was ta like away the rent stum= Dling-biock to thousands of stacere minds. The converantion continue, and tere world be no vounecetion between what 1 sald wnless Fong reference ts permitted to whit othors sald, 1 deny, however, making a formal address nt that meeting, and Twould ike now to read what was testified to horg yesterday, nnd £ wilt muke mas statomment tre! ve to lt. wv. Parkhuret1 move thit all that apecch ho atricken ot ‘ho Very fact that he tanderinkes fo state here what othar people antl 8 tnt tho conversntion fa very inueh ont uf place, wid Tinove that tt be stricken out. The Presiding Elder=t would Hko to say to Dr, Parkhurst that T propose the largest possl- ble Hberty hore consistent with the enuse that We represent, and it seems tome that your ot Jection or your motion cannot be adniitted— Uhat you hid better Me yourexception and take it with you, Tho polut was saved. his apeceh, What ne, or what others ase. We want evi be or not that was Oe M 'Thoman’ uttera’ thy quotation hy It if they wish, aiding Elder—Will Dr. Parkhurst read The Pi such evitenee ns he has to submit? Mr. Bonnett—L will read It, ‘The Predidiug Elder—Whero does it occtr in the charges? Mr. Rennett—Tn tho third specifeation from a sermon vreached Nov. 2%, Nd, The words, v3 thoy nvpear in the diter-Oeean report. nv0 ts foflow: ‘This doctrine of enilless puntahmont Ja tho burden of thought and the burden of fralthy and thootegy among ult thoughtful minis tadny, Amd 1 verily bellevo to try to tphold it and to enforce It ipon ininds fs to welgh down the falthy of the age and not to Hft itups aud the trouble fs, that with this burden you sink belief, not in that dogma, but you sink tho bellef in dod with tt. You leave in tho prublie faith only au lnperfoct Gad, or, what ia much worse, no Uodatall, You cannot construct a ‘Theodtey with the old doctrlue of the severity and endics- nest of Hellas partar your theory." We will nittalt, that on or about Oct, 4, in a sermon preached by Dr. ‘Thomas, he uttered, in sub. stance, the following words: "it was not to reconcile un angry Cod, but to reveal n Father's love.ond to reach and to reconcile man—to save bin from ain, to yet him out of sin and Into righteousness, and thereby out of tho pen- aalty of ain” THE PROSECUTION CLOSE. Mr. Varkburst—We have twenty moro wit+ neases in regard to what oceurred at thu con> ference, as testified to by Dr. Gurney. With re- want to the preachers’ muting, we have five men who have yalunteered to corroborate Brother Caldwell, We don't propose to burden the record as urore Bee See itt on ngood ian an exeh point. | We nro through. nar " . fit. Honnett--We bnve no objection to your iret ne tho Proce rs aaeettt i SRI na Rig ied Ave: wekoeanes: IwiroRarwe grotting Uuving written Ils Look culled Tue Mr, Farkburst—We can put thoi on at tho | Vicarious Sucrifico, euntorencis it wa hacen, De. Parktist—I object to that’ being put Into Me, Heniett-—Do vou rost your ense? What Der fennel ent nebls dying wouess s . its Kl . Mee Purkbare Wo let Tho Prosling HilersLet us hear what, Dr, Thomus ling to sis, and then it can te ruted out afterwards {f it proves to be Impertinent. “ It wns stated,” went. on Dr. Lhomns, * that he did decply regrot It, and wishod he might live long enoitgh to counteract Its Intluenco, I stated that the remark wag strange tu me, and thut 1 didn't think the facts of the ense bore out the statement, and 1 remomiver, nt a subsequent. meetmg, | furnlehed thom with tho fucta and bout thom.” Dr. Parkturst—Now, Mr, President, I move that that be stricken from the record, The Presiding Bidor—1 think Lehall not Bus- tain the objection Dr, Parkburst—I excont. DR, VUSHNELL LEFT IN, Dr. Thomas asked to have Mr. Caldwell's tos- timony rend. and the stenographor tavkled his notes, When he got through, Mr. Caldwell asker that 1 correetion be mudo. He liad spoken of Falea H. Hubbard, when ho meant F, G. Hibbard, baving tho other: man tn his ind. ‘Mr. Hennett moved that tho correction anpear ag inade at this stage of - the prevecdings, since the question of Brothor Caldwell's memory might como up. ‘hy reading of the testimony occupled con- aiderat Hine, 80 much that Jtrather William Be ho was sitting aimone the § murk Grent bodies move Sunt? “TL wag nat at the tweeting with De. Mbbard eald Dee Thomas. (Mr. Catdwvell had stated that De, Hibbard was presont when De, Thomas mado tho remark about recanciilation.) And thon he continued his testimony: jury, ree DR. THOMAS’? TESTIMONY. After some little deiny, Mr, Bennett said he would introduce Dr. Thomes, ‘he Doctor ree walned where he was—beside his counsel—but Dr. Parkhurst Insisted that be should take the witness-stand, “You may stato your name and occupation,” Devan Mr, Benuett. “ Hirum W. Thomas." And your occupation?” “Tam a clergytnon,’ “Were you present at a preachers’ necting held fn Chleago about Mare! Ti aad “E was; 1 remained at DESIGN OF THE ATONEMENT. “ Did you state at that preachers’ mecting that tho design of tho Atouumont was nut to recon- clly God to man, but. to reconcile man to God?" Le'So far as Lremember, Ldld not discuss that phase of the Atonement. In tho remarks I made T confined myself to tho effector n penuity belng executed upon Christ. Tho only remurk Linde that J eam reentt in reforence to It 1s the question I asked Yr. Bunulater, which was, ‘14 thora anything in the Scriptures that teaches that Christ dled to recongite Gad to man?” “Were you present at moro thin ane “session of this preachers’ meoting at Whieh tho doctrine of the Atonement was discusded?* “Tthink not. 1 know tt wags a matter of deep regret to ine that L could not be presont. | did not henr Dr. Hibbard, vor did TP henr the format nddross of Dr. Adums. My engagements were euch that f could not attend,” “Do you remember seeing Mr. Catawwoll thero 7" “Tennnot say cortalily. I remomber those who spoke, but did notobserve who else way jo 1 Know that] bayo mentioned alt that session until It you reinty whnt occurred xt the session ut which you wore present?” Dr, Parkhurst object, Tho Presiding Eliler—What is the ground? Dr. Parkhurst—We object to letting every. thing fant, overybody sald go in, We hold to the record. Mr. Beunett—1 understand when a part of 1 general conversation ta Introduced tn evidence we have a right to the whole of tt. In tho direct testimony the prosection undertook to show certain phrase Dr, Thomas uttered, and we have right to the conversation that drew out that phrase and went to make part of tha necting. Dr, Parkburat—1 object. It 13 not the question: at all what somebody else suid. Did Dr, ‘Thomas say this? ‘That is the point, and tho only point. ‘The Presldiny Elder—It seoms to the Choate that tho question should relate to the subject. ‘Thore im ene hive been business transacted, Thoro might buyo been various things thut were diseugsed nt that meeting. Please contine youre self to tho aubjects under discuasion here. closed.’ WILL there, No who spoke, for, in tho conversution, many took part.” mt Do you remember who made tho formal ad- dross ut that mecting? If ao. who?” Hee” only fortual ttddress waa by Bishop Mer- tr . ONE HERETIC AT A TIME, “ Wos anything sald at that meoting In regard to the Atonement! Mr, Parkhurst—I object, The Presiting Ekier—Tho objection is over- ruled, Proceed. Dr. Parkhurst—Simply this— ‘The Prostding Eldor—The objection Is over- net, \ Dr, Parkburst-—1 arose— The Presiding Elder—The objection was ovor- ruled bofore you uruge. Dr, Parkhurat—U didn’t understand you set- tled matters In that way. I supposed wo had o right ‘Tho Presiding Elder—t wilt withdraw tho rate Af tho counsel thinks ho bas something impor tant to ony. Dr. Parkhurst—1 only wish to say thoro mat have beon half « dozen heretles present.” slon't want to bear whut thoy suid, They may bbe on tril next week. It ia not evidence in this ense. What we want Is ovidence in this ease, f objectto anything elsu going tu of any kind, WHY NOT LET TIE TALK IN? “Do you rumember the conversation between yoursolf and Hrothor Parkhurst, testiflod to by him?” “ Brothor Parkburet testified to two conversa- Yons. Ihave auite a distinct remembrance of what Brother Parkhurst sald in tho first one." “ Rolato ite" Dr. Parkburst~I object, Lam not on trint. [Smltes.] : Mr. Bonnett—That ts not the ground on whieh we alfer tho ovidenee, [Luughter.) Brother Parkhurst teatified te two conyersutions which he had with Dr. ‘Thomas In which alleged and wo think we have a right to, beretion! utterances were made, und Seog eine Bitesctha objection {3 ovor | jn, witch’ Wrothor Parkhurst ‘relatos what hosald and what Dr, Thomas sald, as bo understood bin, Now, 1 desire to have Dr, ‘Thumas give the conversation as ho remembers it, That will give usa full idea of what Dr. ‘Thomas’ horcay umounts to In these uttorances, Ithink it tadecldedly unfalr that a geutleniun can tustify ag to. what ho romembors, if we an. not nave tho whole of ft, Wo Just sliaply ask for fulrness in this mutter, We want tho whole conversation before thig court xud this commit too, as It will give us tho bust Idea and the host view of what tho words inuiu which Dr. Thomas used. Dr. Parkhurst—The polnt is this: E incidontal- ly remarked in. my tostimony that Dhad hada conyersution with Dr. Morris alx years before, to which conversation I made no reference with revard to which Ltestitied nothing—made house of ftand thut fs now being lugged In berg jn thig case, J protest {f has nothing to do with tho care, Twas conversing with regurd to tho subjoct-mutter churged, and, In connection with it, admit it {8 legitimate; but thut of six years bufore, and miles nwnty vito: In ncor—what hig thut to do with tho case? TL protest that this attempt to_loud tho thing down with all munuer of stumt—ull manner of convorsntions—isn't fulr treatiunont, 1do not Ike to gut up and object to ovary things but {t cortululy dues soem to mo that the fulr thing iu this triul, the proper thing, und the Christian thing, 18 to confine ourselves to tho questions at Issue, und the things directly can nooted with tho points in issue, und not to dra Jn conversations, papers by Bishop Merrill, on Dr. Parkhurst noted an oxcontion, TIE PREACHERS’ MEETING. “Tho principal thing that occurred,” sald Dr, ‘Thomas, * nt that mecting was an nddross by Hishop Merrill on tho subject’ of the Atone- tment, At the close of that address a hymn was sting, and then there wero informal romurks by ditlerent partics, The first onc who spoke was Dr, Bunnlstor, L think, Then followed Urother Mc- Chesney. Thon followed rothor Parkhurst, Then, f thiuk, Dr. Adame naked Dr. Banntater & question In reference to the thought of recon- ell atom, Dr. Banulstor, aa woll as 2 remember, aitel——’ {ir Parkburst—Stop, I abject. Dr. Thomus—That thore wis a chunge of re- iattong— Mr. Purkhurat—I object. It 13 not rolovant to this caso to know what Dr, Bannister said, and iC this is fot in thore js no end to lt Tho Prealding Elder—I think thut the objec- ton may bo sustiinbd, perheps. VPraceed with- tsaying whut Dr, Wannister sald, hoinas—1 thon asked Dr, Bunnietor ifthe Soripturos anywhero ullirmed that Chriat dled to revoneilo God to man, | ‘Thon others continued to speak, and finally thoy asked me for my views. ‘This question that L ayked Dr. Bannister I sinyply oaked sitting, [thou uroge und spoke Ju al, 1 think, not over five minutes, and in substitice stated that {thought God loved the world us inuch as Christ loved it, and that Christ was us Just 26 tho Fathor in the matter of tho atonement. 1 stited vory brletivc inenbe | H¥enty other thinys, As to thy couvorsution be- atunce, what bos been mein in avidence een Dee honing und myyolf, on the occasion hore In‘ these wermons—ihut 1s, the samo | Which LC buvo testified, 1 nt rendy, 1 positions, — Bishop Morrill—or the conver. | ,,>!f Hennett—Wo aro much obiyod to Dr. sation then’ turnod on the fact of Fuekhunss for the religous advice we ure get- pomuity, 1 stated that. Christ could not autor ss nite The'iteral ponalty: tut, not holuy wetuner, ie | Bf Parkhurst Very good: you need I could nut feel thoromoracul asinnor, and coud | it Honnutt—We buve thy to surgest: Wo wore somewhat surpriacd that be sald that ix years betors he had bad vw dlecusslon on the sutne subjeut—that hd should give hit hig views: somewhat eurprisod thut bo bronght tn that conyersition of six yeurs yours before, but since hu brought ftout himself in his own val untary teatimony, wo slinply ask If it is not proper for him to’ stite the wholo conversation, Dr, Parkhurst—I ask if there [sn word in the record that was uttered cither by Dr, Uhamas or myself In thut conversation? Sf #o, than it Is legitimate to being it tn. rocers wis here taken for fo minutes, Tho Prealding Elder=Wo will udinit any testl- mony with regird to the conversation to whieh Dr, Parkhurst tuatiiod. Any parts of that von vuraution, It seems to the Chisr, will be pertinent ua testimony, but nut to the provious couvarsite Hon, na no testimony was given In relation to Unt rat conversation, HE SECOND PARKTURST CONVER- SA'LION, Mr. Bennett—Do you remember what was sald At tho second convereution betwoon yoursulf und Dre, Yarkhurst? Dr. 'Vhomas—1 havo boon trylog wvor wince yosterday 4f possivio to recall tho fuct of tho conversation to which he refers, und, go far, t have buon ultorly unable to recall tho fact of the conversation, 1 remembor being ona com- wulttes in referenve to tho Babbath, I romem- ber Dr. Kittredge and Dr, Elis wero va it, and others, and 1 suppose it ta entirely probable aud oven truc that wo walked together from tho book-roam upto the block, and [ don’t quias Hon bile statement that we bad 0 conversution, Hut, so far agel was concernud, It was uot of n charuvter to (inpress ieelf at all upon my sind. not bo punished nsfa slnnor, but that fle suffered Sor us, und died for us. Bishop Mecril ton, in further conversation remalned setting, a8 remember, aud he too, Lthink—statod that he hevor used—— 1T OBJIECL. Dr. Parkhurst—I object. Mr. Beunett—This is a part of » conversation Jnwhleb Dr. ‘homes was cugaged, ‘They have Ot u part of it, and wo are entitied to the whole of it, In ordor to show tho mind of Dr, Thomus upou this subjoct, They have no right to taken slngie, detacho sontence from 4 conversation, prove that, and thon shut us down, and make ws stand by It. De, Parkburst—Dr, Thomas gave public ut- teranee tn 8 preachers’ mouting ton cortalu fact whieh wo buye proven, Whut Bishop Morrill uny baye sald in a cross talk kutween thom, or afterwards, Jan't relovunt to this case, | Str, Henuett-—T'hts whole thing was a conversa. tion, De. Parkburat-Beg pardon; that isn't tn ovl- ‘lence, dir, Rennott—It isin evidence glyon hero by Dr, Thos, Dy Parkhurst—Tho evidence is that it wase formul speseh tu which tnt declaration was mide, and f appent to tho record to Kustain mo, te Mr Bounett—Dr, Thorns denles that it was 0 ort spovob, Parkburat—1 appoal to tha record, dir, Hennett—Yor, but we tava yor the ovle donee, Dr, Vhomus’ word tyne quad as yours. Alo haa’ dowied that ha nade a speceh, Dr, Parkhurst—Did Dr. ‘Thoms dony it on the stand? Ll want ta know the record, dire Henne Well, Jot the record show, ‘ho Presiding Hlder—The question 14 tard J omay state that 1 ain, ae a rule, occupied POPU ONE AL this {UHULUTE. DRO ca ce ee Rey, | busily for about fifteen oF sixteen hours a duay, defense have a witness, and you are abjecting | 1 (ul good deal, ant Lbave a very much to bls unawern, fe not best fur you now to question him, ftseens to tae Chalr thut the witness should contne himself to what by ble oulf suid, 1d not wndortake to repent the con> vorsations of other ton fi that disuussion, Mr. Henueti—Stay dbo allowed i siguestlon? Supposlax thut # ynestion iy wked, wnd that. ho aunkes reply thereto, ho question and answer ure wbaglutely necessary in order to ombodly tho duct and xive meaning to the words whteb De, ‘Thomws asad, and Think in wil fairness, we ure entitied to that. Tho Presidiye ider1 think the witness should continn inst to his own statements In tho cnso, It ia hls statemunte—not i oonyvorsne fon—that aire under discussion, The Chalr so q better memory aata what othors say tomo thin a4 to whut l siy tothe, und my only hope of being consistent In whut diay id that £ alway ry to say Just what t think, Twould say further Vhat if In that conversation tho question of tho atonement and the inspiration of tho Beriptures: sud cus ure Dunlgbuieat was diseased during tho. wiK—— Dv, Parkhurst object, Let him slate what occurred ur whut aide't ocour, but not bis oplue Jone, ralt, feunett—t1o 18 oul#making # prolimiuary Dr. Purkburst—neg your pardon, 2 wos an ArUIEHE wud Nut tosthnony, iv. Thomad—1 was going On to wate, tf itlan’s alt out ce, bhité ts the eat me J was ever on ne defense igee exvoption, 4 wits atindy Foam used to talking where £ De eae Sepia ave ie wll inyown way, tLuughter.) § phall very cheerfully submit to tho corrections of tha Cour und Hrothor Parkhurst's pious luctuces, id prout by them It t can, WUBLICr, wnt “roonk you" from Hrotuer Barkburat) [was lug unto etute that if f expressed ag opine 0 Dr, Bi — ab a ach ret I object to any of this golug gene aiding Flder—State, if you can, what Dr, ‘fwomus—Not remewbering the couyersa- De. Tuomud—Thut if Ua ion of Hteral poual- ty was lett out — Mr. Parkhiutrat—Stop, Eabject, Veosiding Eder—t don't see Dr, Park: hhurst's pont. dle fa wolug un to slow what he sald, dir, Bennett—That'e exactly tt, If Lisho; Merel’s lunguage could be given Dr ‘haus reply would alt full tute proper shape. aE that De, fy Parkbun—Tbe evidence “ib tion, I must at views—"* Dr what Tsnt Ht, Knowing my Varkburst=[ object. Lobject. Lobject. Yinorasisly) eelt—This position is Komewhit ene Inirrasshig on recount af Mio want oF detnitiess 1n tho. recollection of the witness, and Pavbmit that he hus aright to ge thus far; hoe hast right tosny that, if he, dizenssed those topics nt all, his delibernte pulpit utterances: conformed to his private utternees at tht thine. Dr. Murkhurst—1 sulialt tat whor we como to the aretumont Hrother fennett can say that ithe thinks proper, Laughter, Mr. Bennett—[ enbmit that thiy witness bas 8 right to stata tt ypotbetlentty us lls teatinany. The Presiding Ehler—Dr. Thoinas will please atnte what he knows abot that conversation, T It ia deemed pertinent, we wil have It ad mitted ns evidence: if not, we will rule ft out. Dr. 'Thamas—1 don't know anything about It Laughter] Tknow ff talked it must have heen th thy Hine ot my views, Not reneniar- tug the converantion, Leould only give what iny Tinpressions would be ng to what T sald: nor esti Tremensbor about ehnging my hand down em phatieolly, 1 don't remember anything about it. THE CONFERENC WITH THE LA- DIES. Mr, Rennett—1o you remember being presont At tho miceting in this room, whieh bas Leen tus- Ulled to here this morning? Ur, Thomas—1 do, Mr, Lennett—Can you relato what was siuld by you at that meeting in relntion to the polis tes> uflod to herg.this morning by Sophin Phelps, Mrs, Garrett, ang Mra, Benjamin? Dr. Thotnas—t woukt stata Unt T have no recollection of any sitioh mevting batng publicly called, [twas my custoin to meet the children pete sturdy ut 3 o'etuek in this room, and my recoltectiun fa tht elther before that diy, or on that diy, tho word: somehow reached me that saa Indies wanted to sea ine. Of course J had no Knowledge ag tu whut thoy wanted ty see me wbont hink ow children’s meeting hind vlosvd, and F was in tho Ubrary-roum, whero tho books ttre dlatributed, and they gathered in tho eliss-ruom back there, and’ ft went back, and (Ver thoy Jutroduecd tho‘ conversation by ‘say- tug that) some oor them felt nm con cern ns tothe eburacter of my tonchings, and went on to state thom. Of course Tennnot recollect Just what thoy sald to me, ‘but they ure true in tuting that this question: of the Dluod of the Lamb waa tp, and 1 remeins ber distinetly this; that lamy mlnd f was try- dng to free thom front what seemed to me tho Iteral and iatucal conception of the vivud of Christ. ‘hore bad been « good deal of what 1 would call Anttnomlinism trigbt in this olty, and) us it Keemed to tau, a goud Inany were toate fur in that direction, if thoy hud not zonu aver. 1 remembor ustig this {tustration, 1 snids “Now, wo tuke tears, Whut do we mean by them? We don't mean tho -siinple fact of so much salt water thut Is wept from the eycs, that can be chomically analyzed. Thesy tears are but a sigh of whut 18 back of tno deep soul in htasympithy, or trouble, orsorrow.”, aAndso I suid of the bivod of Christ, substantiate Wye tue it wae what might be called a tlag ot distress—a sometblig that appealed to our at. tentlon—a something that represented Unit whieh wus beneath it and deeper, and that E didn’t euppose {t was meant that we were to Lite erally wash in fountains of blood ov that that blood was to be Iterally sprinkted upon ts, but thut that blood represented ty us the Hfe, tho Jove of Christ, which would become a power on charactor; nud that we should not so look upon Christ's death ns that ile paid our pene alty and emtcted one rigutvoustiess, and that wo were suved thereby, but wo were saved through tho regencration, the inward righteous: ness, the churacter that we attained through We love, apd death, ant rod work of Curist. ‘Onthe question of luspiration I dou" bor that inuch was suid. that the Suriptures contalned all gury to be volloved for our su 1 did not thlok we should burden tho defense of the verual theory of plration, or that (t wag necessary to accept everything in tho Old ‘Testament titurally, but ta tdeept the ourrent or apirit* of Ifo running through the ‘Seriptures, “1 do nat remember whether, tho ‘subject of futuro pune iahinent wis = brought forth in that tuk or not that tho qui Drought ou JOSHUA AND OLD JOL, “Do you remember what the witness sald ng to your using a phrnse In reference to 'Jozhua's sun aud old Jab’? If su, what did you say 10 ros aril to them ¢? “I think that L very probably suld, and, a3 ins attention Is called to It-—"" Dr. Parkhurst—"Does he remember what ho sald? “Lho word ‘probably’ wou't do. We want. ty know what lio did say, Tho Presiding Elter—The question admits a direct unswer. Does tho witness remember what bo auld? Mr. Bonnett—I submit to the Court that ho should be allowed to fluish the sentence, “As my attention [4 caltod to it,” proceeded Dr. Thomus, *Enaw recollect the fact that L used the standing stitl ot the suns one ins- tration, nnd stated 1 didn’t suppose It was nec- casury for us to belleve tht, tan flteral fret, the heavenly bodies were disturbed in thoir course or nrrested In tholr moveniunt, in order to nceent the spiritual Hire of Christ. 1 don't remember reterring to Job, Indecd, T huve tover suttled the muttor in ny mind whother he wisnn actual vharactor or an ideal cbhuruce ter. Dr. Parkhurst—1 object to that. don't think we hid better have It down until it 1s suttied. [inughter] Parkhurst bold that but Ldy remember vory distinctly on uf tho blood of tho Liat wis Mr. Monnett—Doca Dr. that would sectlo it If lt was down? Dr, Parkburat—f ask that ft be stricken out. Dr. ‘Thomis—And hence L could hardly hive sald thit no such munis “old Job" ever lived. tI ask that tho argument by atrickin ont, ‘Tho Presiding Hidor—t think If te proper to strike out all moral or philusuphleal retieetions, BOSH. Mr. Bonnett—Do you remember tho statomont mule by Mrs, Gurrett thut you aild jn one of your sermons, preached In this church, that “for Almighty God to send uw sout to eternal punisoment wae all bosh?"" “Tald not . “Did you say it?" “i did not, What fa, it don't In any eonse sound ike my Janzuage. I don't think In ali tho sormons J have ever bad published you will over fud tho words *Gou Almighty.’ ‘Chere isu core tuin semblance of profanity tn that phrase that grates upon my mind or feoliuga in the uso of 9 Divine 4 ound —f think, from all my habits of education and thought, should not usu ly the pulpit any sueh phrase 1s *bosh. he only sormous | prevcked on that subject Are fu print, Uf course | do not by this mien to in ny sense question her alncority, or thut sho may have heard it; but Leannot thik it possible that f uttered the words,” “iow long was the session of the Chicago Ppreachera’ meeting wileh you attended?” Dr, ‘Thouas—Wo have a regular time for oponlay and closing, J thinic In the winter we opon it Hand cloavat 1, or hit after 12, and that thoy ure not intended to MiNt over an hour aod a ult, or, posmbly, But over un hour, But, of course, that f4 0 uiittor of record that cnn ue enally agcortulned by reference to our rules, Mr, Bennett Was thore y furmnl addross at this preachers’ meetiug whieb you attended? Jr, ‘Thomus—t huve stated that Bishop Morrill gave atormul address on the subject of the atonement, at Senate Att how long was thut ad- ree Dr, Lhomas—1 could not say, It was ox- and it uftorwards uppeured in tho Northweatern Chrfatlin stdvocate, prepared, | th by himsolf,uand TI should judge that it from thirty to forty minutes, nett—About bow t oupiod ia the Informal cony aton h tine was aoe ‘eroution pan the unt whiek followed tit wldrosay . De. Thonas—! coutd not say dednitly. Tden't romoniber whethor we extonided the time ur nut. If wadid not, there couldn't hive ueen tett, | sugpurc, Over bull an hours that ty, 1 our tine, ur tery, of a sossion fs one hour, whien I think - tba. At this We quarter to 1—a recess wag takon unt 2 e'elouk, tu order to give My, Bone nett wa opportunity to get hid dovumontary: ovidanes in shape, = Aly. Bennett conducted tho devotional oxer- olses which opened thy afternoon session, reud- fog St. Muul'a trivute to ehurity, und praying thut the trial tight be conducted hs Ita last, as Jn Ite eacilor, stuges, fu a true Christian spirit, The direct oxumination of Dr. humus was thon resummed, and provoedud ag fullowss A NORBY OF PHEACINNG CHRIST, Mr, Bonnett—At tho’ meeting referred to by the ludics, hold in this room, did you say that you did not want to make a hobby of preaching Christ; that thora was onaugh uf that In this city? Dr. 'Thomas—I cannot recall my exact lan- euage. What Lanid fa substance was notagulnst pronobing Christ, but nyalnst tho peculiny views ov system of doutring In whieh somo wore wo much In the bubit of prosouting Cuirist, which I regurded ua un-diethodistic, and ft scemed to me thut, instead of preachiug Chriet in sot phrasoclogy, particuturly of that kind, the bet lor way was to preneh the broad spirit of Christ's Nf, teachings, and death. 1 purty did not jncan in uy gcndo that Christ whould not bo preached. ‘There be grown up in our clty in Abe lst nuiuber of yours w certain species of eynngollam, with the purpose of which [an in tho fullest tymputby, Out tram tho methous of which L had to difer, und felt that it was int sense subversive of Methodist Ideas and Mothadist work, aud EL almod to puta syatom of trou Gospol—ag | understand it—in opposition fo that pecullar murhod, Bir, Bonnett—Dr, Parkhurst, In bls statemont, of your. lnpguaye, given yesterday, states tht you uid to bth, ‘fore Ure it ood inany totayge wt the Old Testument that the dlethodist Church must throw overboard, or thoy will aluk ber," wid you ao state? s EY Parkourst objected on the ground that Dr, Tho 3 hud already sald be coulduy't revollect the conversation. Dr. Thumas~As I stated this morning, do ation Brother Parkturat’s word thatsuc n conversation waa held, but it was sue an ine UiTerant thing to me ao [ttle finpression —thit Thave ne recolteetion of IL whatever, As ho stites, ft wasn street talk, aa we walked Klong, hurrying ton committee. it was na de Uherate ttteriner, at least; oe if twas an thing tinder disguadion that 1 was giving my infnd to, it cortatily would not have wholly es- enped, TIE DOCTOR'S SERMONS. Tho prosceution baving elipped out of tho Doetor’a rermons certnin proofs contiining: aileget hereticnt sturements, {tof cou imalnerdt far tho dafensa to show tho clirie the context, It was to this braneh of the that Mr. Bennett referred wheir, Just before the noon recess, he Bpoke of arranging bis doeca- mentary evidence. Ite was now realy, and, producing tha Vootor's serapboote, called upon hin to real what be had pre; in the Rermon of Oct. 1, 1850, 00 tho subject of inspiration, Dr. Thomas, in his Impreastve way, rend 13 fole tows, the oxtract fneluding not onty the alleged heretical utteranees, but all that he had sald on thatanbject in the sermon referred to; “Thera {a Just ono more polnt, and that Is In reference to the hispiration of tho Seriptit J rity: bellev boour Articles of Fu! that the Beriptures: contain all thir necessury for salvation, f bellove that tho will of God ts revented jn the Seriptires. 1 nceopt implicitly tho teachings at Jesus Christ, though Ido hotauppose tn nil cases wo have Fis preciso language. Yet I believe we have fn aubstinvo Tis thougtit—ite consengus—ln xo far tht we may Know Ils mind and ily doctrine, But Lido Not beliovo thit all parts of the sixty-six books: of tho Bible ave equally Inapired, or of equal nuthority wid value, rol betlove that all tho books of the Old ‘Testament aro criticnlly infallible. Any attempt to malntin suena ‘view Js, in my opinion, not only utterly aseloss, but putsa biden tipou the Chureh that mikes it wenkor and not stronger. ‘The whole question ‘of inspiration haste be reopened. Thd verbul thoory, In iny Judgment, has to be Ligae hp. [ne deed, with most thoughtful minds, | think ft has teen given Hp. ‘The populur views of many will huve to be moditied, And I bolleve tho Iiblo will be more and more reverenced Book of God, ts Henven's highest re ton nadiaw to man But this will not come in any intéllizent sense Ly shutting our eyes tu facts and iitelligont eriticlsn.” ‘The nextextract, from tho samo sermon, re- Inted to the doctrinn of futtire puntshinent, aud preceded what the prosecution bad been so careful to plek out ag the Doator's allege Nerettenl uttertnees on that puint. Tho lattor were published yesterday | connection with the amended charges and speellications, Tho new inatter, preeeding these alleged heretical utterinces, wis its follows: Anothor point of dllforence fs In reference ta future punishinent. In iny statemont to the {conference { aald, au 1 sny now, that f nover doubted the fuct of after-dexath punishinent for those who die in tholr eins, tliove the liv, that sin itst bring loss and saifcring to tho sinner. will abide in force foreve 1 bolleve that it Is founded In the nature of thins: thet it is everlastlogs that ft operates In all nges and in all worlds. And f beileve also that, os long us any being reinnins on the side of stu, or ign slnner, that belng muse suifer, There 18 a win whieh 1 think even those who turn cht may always sulfer loss, because oF having doxe wrong. We cannot recall wasted years, even in this workls nud pane of us ean bo What wo might bave been bid we linprovet! nll the pust; and ‘this ny, To suppose, carries over to the future; aud dn this modiiled sense thore iny be to many souls endless toss. 1 bus Heve In the strontti und Integrity of the wove ernment of Gods that propor pulishment will bo visited pon all who vlointe the hue of that government. hele at God 1s’ eternally dust, und that Lis merey ts from overlisting to everlasting. F belle that Ife is tho futher of ail souls, did that Jko wlll deal ia tender love with all, ite wilt do whut is rite and best for awl. ib }o not belleve In tho old, terrible ideas of u itera! Ine of tlre, in whieh the souls and bodies of men and women shall bo tore inentod Lore: ‘Tho next extract, from tho sermon of Oct. 4, 1880—pravtically all nuw mattor—b v., not Ins cluded in the amended chines and specttion- see as rent by Mr, Bennutt, and was os allows 5 woutkl not, of course, malntain that Christ's greut ong only work was to becotne *the end of tho hw for righteousness,’ in the only sense of abolishing the od sysium, ‘This Hoe did this gonse was tho end of the eeremantal hw of vighteousness, But Ho was, und Ho did, vastly more. He opened the way to tha new Kimduin of Heaven, We have a sehool of teachers, or preachers nnd cyvanvelists, i our day who set to look upon the saeritico of Christ in euch a sense as that Jlo was aecounted guilty in our stead, oboyed In our stent, and was puuished and cacriticed in our stend, xo that alwe hive: todo isto believe in Himy believe that be was so sneriticud for us that tho ponalty of our sins has boon pald, and our righteousness eucurad, And taking up the old si wes in the sense that thoy ntone for moral guitt, and appeased an angry God, they curry this hlea over to Christ, wud ropresent Hin: its eulloring the wrath of God, aud muking it poxssitle for God to love and pardon tho sinner. A Inte and able prenuher bug well eid thut on this subject erroneous concepuions prevail; *concoptions whi AKG God te bo no Father, but at uncompra- mising angry tyrant Ike Powhntun, who, standing abava . John Sinlth with on club in his hands, was appeased only by the duterposition of Poenhuntas, No, He is us anx- fous to sive the wortd us ever Id Holy Son, He does not buve to be bought off, ‘That ls not the unture of Jesus’ gacritice. It is inore the nature of & man who Jumps intea chasm and Drldges it with bis body. “This is undoubtedly the truer—tho truo— conception of Christ's sitcrifice. It wag not to reconeile an angry Cod, but to reveul a Fathor’ Jove, and to rowch and to reconclic mit; to sive hin from sli—to got him out of sin and into rightvouanoys, and thereby out of tha penulty sin. “T havo time for only tworefloctions in cl these thoughts, We bhavu soen in courses how the cross and eu! i, or are rapidly passly ‘tt conception tothe inner splrituat truths: which those outward faota are but symbols, We have seen how tho tnateriul conceptions of God are giving place to the tiseun and spiritual Presence that is not far from any ong of Us; aye, tout Is within te, Chit speaks to and communes with tho soul, We hava now to note how, ven in this progress away trota the outer and yrosser thoughts of other ages, we hive it coloring of tits materlatity, this grossneas, lingering often atiitin our langue and nour creeds, Che fica of a material pell-fire—of dangeons and prisons for the losts the fden of a literal nutterial resurrection of the body thut dies, nnd of a Hiteral Judgment-sent, and oF a literal pot atonement, In which Christ wis judicially exeeut> edie oxnuipies, Some seam to hing upon the Ht+ eral blood of Christ: to lon Cor ndrop of i to be sprinicled upon tham, They think of washing thelr eins away tn thts iltural blood, Now, 09 threes, this may be allylyht; but tho real truth ta thiss ‘Stat Christ gave bis tite for ts, and the tears and the blood are but thy ontornlgas of this giv= ing, tls suifering, this deep everlasting: Jove; and the way tht Christ saves us is not by at Hitoral washing in His blood, but by the power uf (4 tove, and His Mfo malting and winning 1s to Ils avevio, and maklay us fi spirit ike Min self, Tt fs by winning us mway from sin, from conformity to the world, and renewlng us tn the spirit of our minds,” INTRODUCING IIs OTHER SER- MONS. Mr, Bonnatt—] wish now further to offer in evidence extracts from sormona preached by Dr. ‘Vhomas, hi which bo states hla views upon tho two charyes aud three speellicutions which tire named, De, Parkburst—Is they aro the sermons of- fered in evidence, of course we wish them to oume In, Mr, Bunuott~1 state digtinotly that they aro not, : Dr. Carkhuret—We abject. We bave changed cortuln words, Wnt was safd in connestion with those words, tnuterlutty alerting the ene, should come Li, und therefore alt Ubat bas Just Deen rend 1 these sermons is prt ok the cuse, Jue want be miny’ have sald atuny other ti louny atuor cuulrumi ian or to othor persons, enunot in any way alfect the question whotber ho aul thoge things that we have charged, Thorefure, We ennnot see how thoy huve any connudtion with the cnse, uxcopt ns counsel may ude thom. in his argument, In other words, the position amounts to abuut this: That De, Phomad shail give a sores Of six sorimons on the [ible aud the mattor of ineplras ton, und jn one of those surmuns there shill appear a few words whigh are deemed heretical; the prosecution ius tho right tu take those few words OUL Of that one burton and charge heresy, and the defonse bas vo riche te put in tha six scrpsons to show exactly what the fult mind and thought of De. Thomason the question of lie spiradan. J say that thug position Ja unrcasune able, Jt isnot dolog justice to this case, It le ehurgot here generally that, for ten yenrs, Dr Thomas bas been spreading tis horvtleat opine Jonas that bo hws been constuntly doing 1 during tho three yeura of bis pastorate In this yory chureb. ‘They tuke extracts from one or two sermons, found tholy eburees upon then and then turd around and way tot You cat not Intreduco uny other extract from any otber sermon tut Dr. Thoms wvor prenched in this eburch upon these ficniical topica, Now, wo have dt cliche to show whut js tho mld, what tho cousensuy, whut tho Cuil thought of De, Thomas ta regurdiuy them; und thoy huve no right to come fa and grab at ono aliugie durmon and wie single extract, und ak the Methodist Chureh to expel bin for th ou thit ground, Wo have the right to thu whole thought and senso of this mun’a teaching; wud tho right here, as mutter thut what ehull go to muku up the fall thought of Dr. ‘Thomas on the atonement aod inepirus ton and eternal puutsbiment stall before this committee, it would be avery singular pros cuuding tu arralga a man Sor heresy on cortalny words, uud then ent out anything that might have Deen used in tho course of uw werles Of Hore mons which wautd go to explain those words aud show what bls mind aud thought was, 1 venture tho prediction thut thore Jy nota mln fater in this audicuce {thurs wore ubout twenty present] whom 1 cannot convict of heresy on the sume Mnw of special pleading. Give us et what Dr. Thomas’ theughe ucetions, und if then you tnd be fa heretio wo will sit dowa and guy Amen to the wetion of tho court, c, Parkauret—A ian te chargod with ateat: wo be of | defense," | ing in duly. Wo prove tho crime, and ho wants to Denne I tne fet that in ten ather months hts Adit steal Does Utat remove tho offense? oes that show he didn't steal whet wo prove it dd? Tt has nothit to do with the cuse, Wo have specified n certala thing done, Woelaim to have proved {6 Now Dr. Thonins has never a uf that ho sald the things wa have proved, Me wants to show that he didi't du tho things at nnothor thnoe—that he ws perfectly honest. What he said atsome other tiie his nothing to dowith tis ense, We object to anytiiny ox- cout ehnt 43 connected with the facts intr duced. Mr, Ronnett—Thero ts no nnnlony Uetweon ateallng and iis: ne horotl doctrines, ‘The whote ihn ye chntie Is un tenet uy her- etlenl dovtrines, Jt is not in one, or two, or threu extracts that fa his uttered hereticut opinions; but, has te disseminated, has he thigcht thom? It ix one continous act, and we ure entitied to nll that goes ta makeup his theaught and mind on those toples. Dr. Parkhurst—1 want to add anothor states ment, Hrothor Bennett lacs not deem to be ave wuninted heres he betongs in another confer. nee Not te nilnister heee van be convicted of heresy on this tine. 1 dety hin to convict any her of the Rock River Conference un this Hans Ie 8M, Deine on tho vitr Wo Hy to teat this enge with nuy othor man at Dr. ‘Thomas, It ls not true that tho Itook er Conference 19 polsuned with heresy. Any ection Is false, Mr niett—The gentleman alluded to hrf o dozen heretics thit could be found hi the preachers’ meeting, and | supposed ho was tell- hi tho truth. (Sinites.] A long pituise onstied nt this point, tho Trestd- ing Ehler being In consultation with Dr, Gurney, Dir. Hintileld took a sent amoug the counsel for the defense und engaged fn earnest cuuversi> on with thon, and facetions lookers-au asked if he hid Jolned “the othar side.” BS ‘ho Presiding Elder Saale aids It docs nob seem to the Chulr that: this documentary evte denco was olfored as a part of the res gestiept this ease, and yet, on tho other hand, it in true that the erlma of disseminating false doctrine must, in the nature of the case, bo somewhat seriat in ite charaeter, and’ white it fn tho Judgment of the Chair that. by strict con- struction of the rules of evidence, this ought not to yo hi, Wo Raa) admit it with tho feeling and judgment that we ought to bo Hbertl even to tho atraitlag of a point m1 such i ease is this, Ant wo shall admit (t with watchfulness us 10 how far you shall zo. Tshatl be glad to have the counsel for the Church take exception to this, Dr. Parkhurst—We shall sce to that. ‘Tho Prealding Eluer—The pipers that aro ine rod must Le confined to tho three points: under discussion—the inspiration of the Seript- ures, tho doctrine of the atonemont, ond end. Jess punishinent or probuwon after death—and let then be revont. Dy. Parkhurst objected to the Introduction of the sermons on the ground of irzcloyaneys and, his atdootion bolug overruled, he noted an ox- ception, READING EX'TRACTS. Mr. Bennett then offered Inevidenco the fal- lowing extracts from tho sermon of Nov.2s, 1880, that down to tho stars preceding and that fare ther on following the extract given iu the apevl- fications: dr, Matlock and Goldwin Smith depleted the oasible decline of faith in God, and of faith Ina future life. They feu the chill of a bopeluss Miaterlatlam, Now, at such a thine, when the streus of fuith 13 felt. upon the centrat point of all religion, fs felt upon the tact of ae lying God and n Lutte stite-—tt auch a ting, Is it wise to try to cloud over the aky of this nuw diy, tid try to force the minds of men buck Into beliefs tint, to say the bust of thom you ¢: eave only an fupertect God and a buck despale Into. whose uvor deepening darkness incounted mill. Jona of our race fave gone, and from which nut ono can ever return? , . . But the question nu justly orise, on the othor bund, 2s to tho of re hopeful view upon the Hives of mich that sin isn ight thing, or that {tu jnenis no pouty, and that one ean go on sue nig with Impunity, 16 certninly not only a great error, but night result in wrent erm, “But the two do not go togethor. ‘The fuct fy that sin must ehways bring sutfering and loss, in this or any other world; and the muro sin the more loss. But over by the sido of tuls ls placed tho love of, God in Christ to pardon sin, and the power of the Tloy Spirit tu renew the truth, ‘This we should now seek. ‘This we know na present salvation. Aud thon we may work, ond pray, and trast, and hope that out of the tgony, aud trav, and tears of the uges God will at last bring forth w redeemed bummuity; that Mis work and purpose in Christ will not fail, and that no clouds shall darken tie sky at last—that Ho will * mate all things new.” Extracts wore also read from iy sermon preached jn Centenary Chureh May’ f: ith, Ina which Dr, ‘Thonits sald tho Hible was ‘the truth, arovelation, and the authority of God"; also from one In which he said tho atonement wa the cetrat and vital truth of the whole sys! also trom one ontitied "Sin apd Pennit; which sontiments siuttir to those arondy. shed wero elnboraced. Dr. ‘Thoms bitase roud the last extrtet, and wis very unieb ateut over a pussayo tilyverting tothe great love of God, which would reach all if possible, ie ¢Phomas) nd sald: eunnot take pleasure In the death of any soul, yet [know tho, wages of sin ts death," At the conclusion of the reading, Mr. Bonnett suid You ean taky tho witness, De, Parkhurst—[ move that ull this dooumont+ ary Gvidenve not couneetcd with the sermons Ine troduced in the direct evidonco be stricken out ns Iminaterial to this caxe—nut tenting to cone tradlet anything put in tho direct oyidence, ‘The Presiding Blder—The mouon ia dented, Dr. Varkiurst—We novo an exception, We bayo no questions to ask the witness. Although nothing wis suid on tho subject, businoss was suspended for about ton minutes, and overybody went to talking aliout the pros- peet of gutting through thy week, ‘The fFecuss over, Mr. Bennett arose and sald: ‘Tho defense tut loved thalr case, Dr. Parkhurat—Wo don't wish to offer nny. thing furthor, and, us 1 clon't wish Lospenk but ones, Lawl ot oecupy your ting, but will turn tho matter over to the defense, Dr, Bennett—Before beginning the argument wo wish toxtaty that wo hive divklet tho sib: Jeet into three parts, and that three of tbo counsel—Brothers Sheppard, Axtell, and Miller —bave prepared themselves upon those three parts, and wish to be hourd In that order, After in vast deal of tub, in whielt De, 8h gird Bald be might talk “longer or shorter, re Axtell usked for two sessions, or atten three hours, and Brother Miller modestly clulined onty two hours (for which answer tho Court commended bin withan intimation that he was more courteous thin the other counsel, tho ftey, Dr, Kheppard was divected’ tu proceed and use up the remaining bull hour, DR. SHEPPARD'S ARGUMENT, In addressing himeolt to the Jury tho roverond counsel reminded them that the onse wae one requiring great pationce ana ciare— tho enxe of 0 brother beloved, sweet-spirlted, kindly, anu amunof nreach of mtod beyond most yA man who had bad the car of the peur plo a8 thoy bud coveted to have It; a inn agalost whom it was now allowed that ho was. heroticat upon certain speeltiod points of doctrine; and of whose reputation and suunding Aaa brother-preacher the comuilttes wis LOW tho custodian, Jumping nt once inte the argument, he read ‘Tyorman's Lite of Joa Wesley, . Il. dwelling upon certain — corri- spondence in whieh the great founder of Methodism drew oa sharp line between opinion and doctrine, Ove quotation, espe ie Btrong, was as follows: "Isami i bolluver In Jesus Corist, aud ta his lite sultabte to his prufexsion, ave not only the mala, but the sole, inquires T mice ie order to dls adinission, If ho isa dissenter, he anny be a dissenter still; but if ho len churchinan, 1 wiviso bln to eons ttnue so." Tf tho possession of wide tolerance: praperly characterized the Methodist Church, the defense, in its hohling, was not in advanee of Johny Wesley, That Ciuroh, ‘tx counsel bes Moved, was destined wider God to Le a entrels Chat miieht maintain diferent atyies of men Kod, very muon liberty o Ahing ohureb, “under ite Theol, 16 dogmatldin closo the door und otuinke It “impossible to welcome the world tite ite communion. 1 wis suuuWwhat strange that, out of all Dr, 'Yhoniag had sald, the proxeeution contd And #0 Httleln tho way of documentury ovidence to ase thely cngo on, and only the fragmentary testhnonies of a fow woll-moaulog Chrivtian drionds, Whoa Verbal rendering of what De, ‘Thon was alteged to have suid, after xo cone snlerabia a dixtunce of te, Waa not to bo im blloitly relied on, ‘The context of the Dovtor'a Words on ipapinition waa rend, and divelt upon ut soine fonyth, us opposing the idea of horesy, and ta contaruiag tu the teachlogs of the Die. elpling on that ecure, Where, in the munvot eumnnen sense and fale interpretation uf aut Articio* of Iteliion," he asked, “ia heres: in achat luce (of docuinontary | ovis dencer" =Thore was room unouuh — thore, bo claimed, for varletles of thinking upon thia subject. Jn clinching tho defense of thu Blitement that * ail of the sixty-six bouka of tho ible are not equally Inspired or of equal aur thority and value,” counsel read from Dr, Clurko’a Commenturics, Vol, they pio UY, 8 that the blstorien! book# of the Old 'Tostument bave auifered moro by the caretesness of individual trinseribord than any other part of tho Sacred: Voluni,” and that Jowlsh writers inserted thelr own truditions aud’ tanda nlterations und addl: Hons from publle stutaments which they found du general cireutition, ste. Ho lo quoted, not aga standard, but to show the common sent! ment of the Church, Pope's Compendium of Christian ‘Theolowy, Vol. by pave 101, where, aumung ather things, tt te stuted that the Uiblo faa Look udapted to man's probationary cate,” Popo's Compendium 1s a bouk put inte the hands of students and young prenchers, and De, Buep= pure aptly remarked that, if Dr. bonne wite to 0 tried fur hercay in regard to the doctrine of inapirution, tha Prisocurlon, ought to yet aftor Dr, Pope und indlot him for the wime thing, At this polnt tho Presiding Bilder directud the speaker to guspond, and ordered un ad ment wntilPo'clock this merning.. It fe Jost possible that the caso will gato tho committee his afternoon, but it wili bo lute if it does, and w evon that sume of the Jo ra talkers will heceasariy buve to be curtulled in te general allowances they have made for themselves fu sho matter of thie, Articles of Res and bigutry did not e ——$————_—- A Littio Johnny Story. One day Mr. Brily, the wicked sailor, wab goin’ by old Goter's, and by found bim diggin’ a well, and «boy was pullin’ wp the rocks ina bucket witha wialus, So Juck give the boy ly cents thlukings to be w wortd-\ and eat: wo ond pull up for sate At ve wit Ged. nee A te Then dinek he peent afin tte hs tne And Jot it downs aud tho die te onthe buckor well with Galfer. wie hultocd wild ae 210 the fag, Thon JInek he cot old. cng Gia ln piteh that dawn too. atl tha dow encieesyCat am weont Galferaca les, and the carne the cat for ko bo wan n tree, uit yeti Peep ate thors waeent never auch a ite, de? Injen 10 Winns, a his ctosnt Fore atte ci MY Dent a is y duck meds "Pell yor wots Garey along yude had st prett: Uhaitn'teg: cos thit boya on fOr a eee tine or ity gee TILE COURTS, IMPORTA : TANKRUT TE TON TO On tho dth of Keptomber, 18, ‘nudge ty made a general order in bankruptey remeZt alt iankrunte euititled to discharge ty new! tho sumo within three wontns, and qo? it that sf any fatted todo so within yoae gee tte Ahold forfeit atl right to A discharge, ime, they petitions could ho disinissed on npeleas eet any ereditor, Atuong thoso nltected weet ot ordur waa Conrad Young, who was ad te bankrupt sfareh 8, 188, Un the Biot eet her, 188, ho filod with tho cleric a perry ee Gischurge After tho time United for suse a plleations hai explred, and on thot of fee last, Judge Wodgutt entered an order dni’, Ing the appllention for want of asking feet timo, and refused the discharge. On theca ty tho snmo montt, Young tited a petition re view, and on tho same day nc ee redite Christopher Flecher, began 9 mit amet him In the City Court of Elgin on ae alin while had been previously proved up galnee bin bankruptey. Young Interpused the vies it vankruptey, but it was overrated, and J - nent qiven against blin yesterday for pina +H of $80), Immediate appileation was mui! fnexccution, and Young thereupon Med a pee Hdh before ‘udge Driinmond paki Pe furthor proceedings he stuyent ‘nt tho petith ; for review was decided. ‘The dudgo bug ee though by Sec. 73 of the Revised aunts tho United Statoa it wns expressly prvi get HV Injunction suuutd He xranted by nay Beet courtte stuy Hugs in any’ State cme yet by" At WHS eXDEessly” provided thet in binkruptey vagcs 19 creditor whose dent 4 provable In bankruptey abonid he allege prosecute to Hnal Judgment any ant at lew equity therefore wutil the questions ati debtor's dixeharge should have been meee talucd, and such sitit should, on Apple Hon, of tho debtor, be’ staged ts await the determination Of tho court tee band® ruptey, provided, however, thit uo unrensung Diddetay on the partat tho tunkrupe ieee ang hia dischitryze baa been catsed. Thy dees sala the question then was whether there set h unreasonable delay, and withon masaing on the reasonableness of dudge Bole vtt's ontor, he felt st his duty to stay prenes, Ings with be could inquire tnto th ihe petition for review, A temporary injanes thon was accordingly Isaucd ayiinat RW, ‘AN ; x . WV, Pade elford, Clerk of tho City Court of 8. Carlisle, Sharif of Kune County, rere em from iseulng or levyin 2 Oxect under tha nvove Jundinence ee Seung pIvoncr Tina Hanson filed o bill yesterday against her husband, Otto D, Hansen, asking 1 on tho xround of udultory. 8 oF ® Alvores TTEMS, ‘Today is the Inst duy of service and of fillog triul notices to tha Septomber term of the Cire cult Court, The Clerk of the Cireult Court requests the return tu tho files of the bill Brancts vac Goldman, 02 Stl a caso No, 780, STATE Cour Tlenry Frank began n sult yesterday agalost Lena Phillipson to recover $1,000, . Albert Beteher tiled wt bli ugatnat Jobn F, Lynch, Henry Weep and wife, Anna M. Het and otbors, to foreclose n trust deed for $1463 onal that part of the N. Bg of & which lies west of tha Chicago, Roe! Paull Tegitesisle aa Haeri : ‘wiriek Moran sued George Harrig gad Albe Blackburn tor 81.000 damages, = % Esther M. Woodsldy began a aule for $300 ugulust the Northwestern Mutual Life-lasure nace Company of Milwaukee, Charles A. Warren and Willant it. Powers browcht sult for 82,000 tualnst tha Poster Maye not Telephone Company, CRIMINAL COURT, Tenry Johnson and Thomus Hunt were con vioted of burglury und were sentenced to the penltentiary, the former for alx yeara aod the lnttor for one, ° Tho Inreeny cases against James Kilroy, Thomns Unnt, aud Wiliam McCormick were nolle prosed. ‘Tho ches Of John Chuvles Fortine and Cathe erlan Fortine for lirveny were ateloken off, Thocusy of ox-Deputy-Sherlif Benjiinia Selle min was‘ealled up and continued, Anderaon Ford pleaded guilty to petty fare ceny, wie tued $1, and sent to tho House of Correction for sixty days. TL, Howard was tried for robbery, and the was out. ‘This la tho thug whe a few weekt ayo made wn midnight onslaught on City-Clerk Howard, dragged hi Inn dark alley, and, after robbing him of money and wateb, theew bia down a coal cellar, Fred Mason wis tried for larceny, and the Jury wns ont. : Aga A. Gritin pleaded yullty to a charge of Digamy, and wag sent to the peoltentiury fur two yeurs, Jot Kogers plended guilty to petty larceny, aud was sont to juil for one day, THE CALM. Super Davsmonp—in chambers. Juvar Gauv—Motlons. dupar Savriu—Mouons, dunak JAstERON—Motions, dJuvur ANtHoNy—Motlons, IIE CALL=MONDAY. th SANDNEM—Nos. 141, 17h 1%, 179 t0 15h, ud 24, ail, JUDGMENTS SuPRRtON CauiT—Coxressioss—C. W, Mule son va ‘Taylor Patent Itoollng-Tile Companys Sie47—Frances Livingston va, Agnes and Wille fant Spencer, $980,0L—G. W, Lyon et al va Niche Reni faite Chicago Carpet Company v6.1 Me dane gli, HI OL—Cyriig, Jabby ve Fraok Mle ; a duper Satria. M, Reynotds, ndaninistrator Va. Floyd Reynolds, 1,805.53,—Iuth C, Creed te Willian B, Rogers, §221.15, ILLINOIS KUPREMEF COURT. Spectal Duvateh to The Chicago Teiounts OTTAWA, HL, Sept. 8—In1 the Supreme Court thia morning Mr. duatice Watker sade the Ls lowing nnnutuneemont In the cuso of the People ex rel, Gov, Cultom: “This Is an appiicatlad fora summons ina mandamus, returnable e the presunt court, Tho substantial facts oft! . cago show that tho County Judge of Ogle Coun ty, in this Btate, on the 2th of May last re signed hia ofliow, Tho Governor wis notided “ tho resignation, and on tho next day, Lean 2ith, appointed a Judge to fll the vacancy. oe ‘erwards a petition was presented to tho be ernor walcing him to ordes 1 special elections claiming that undor the Constitution bo bu Me puwer to appolnt where # vacancy continue! tore thi a your trom Hs orcuireny that, under tho ainendment, « unit ton, the. term | extendel ThE, rid nat until tho 1st of Novem ber, 1881. “The Governor, It some, rafuirs enll tho election, and this isan a potieat 4 lod inundamus to compel him to cull aa no to Upon turntog to a ease in Tinh Iino! ain It ig there announced and held that het ‘a io branch of tha Government bas no Lapa toe terfore ngainat anathor, and in thik, case 0 i Foruaed 10 issuo Cen trerent atta ‘ull, and covers very py Store, D@ thy’ petition, ‘Tbo porition will, therefor dented, and tho writ will not isso. as ‘Tho following proceedings were nad? ANNOUNC! ee 1. Al tention: for mandamus denied. : Bane order. + petle Foatweld Coat Company va Thayer! Pel ned. Ae Se atte aoe ead ! ohvi . ti ttovn it ‘oawene Va. Kelloggs rebesrle cont jumpbroy vs, Morton; adattlonal rec a a it Med nnd petition for rebeuring will the! ri ‘be considered, i, Mebouring denied, " for alle is, Hunter vs. Hunters application fh ig Frony dents. Bution, Tor extension uf th le"belod not paused npon. wane Ta, Tho Peoply vs, Cullom; petition $F damus donied. MOTIONS, 10, Motion for Ieave to fle # Tact, 48, Motion to disuilas, 0. Bume moun, 81. Baume, 103, Buue, #4. Ramo, ‘ bi Bits . Same. 84, ‘Motion for extension of time t ———— - ctuitional ab fito brie ; on Rogulate the Secretion! te of 8 In our endeavors to proserve healt Jecretutl ‘utmoat importance that we kere Areltekoue syatem in perfect condition. 10? tion on tbe rowedy, Kidney Wort, hue epee BO qnscead ‘it kidneys, liver, and bowels. Use ig, It dosing with vilo bitters or airaatlyy alld (0 85 purely vegetable, und Ie prompt ‘and hush ton. “It Te prepared in both 0h ory edo fru, and gold by drugglets every tng Bugle,