Chicago Daily Tribune Newspaper, May 29, 1880, Page 3

THE CHICAGO TRIBUN : SATURDAY, MAY 29, 1880—SIXTEEN PAGES, asto preliminary organization, ete, which you fellows broke 2” 4 Five from each side of tho honse, Includ- Warmoth for the Custom-House crowd ne myselt for the Grant men, agreed to aa mveqial divvy of tho delegation, —elght for Grant and elzht for the Custow-lTonse neople, to bedivided ng thoy ple tween Bierman and Blaine, But when theso pro- als Were submitted to tho Grant, caucus: + sie took tho bit in thelrown mouth nd repudiated It, It was the first thne in tie history of poiltics In Loulstana, to my knowledge, when tho Regie deeifned to sanction the conduct uf their supposed lead- bre ” « ng tho enusc of the bolt? What rarent from the tine tho State Central Conunittee met and wos arbitrarily Jncreased OF qieked by the Chairman ap ’ inting sixty odd men on his own volition, poeeat ‘whom were Federal employés, thal the Customelouse oficials, were deter- ined to control tha Convention, by tale means {f possible, and by foul means ifthey must, ‘That Committee, thus packed, red the Convention atadate when they falt certain there would be no opportunity of takiny yan appenl from them to the people.” “ Fiat, was the scnthnentof the people, anyway?” iy k It safe to say that four-fifths, and rai two-thirds of the legal members of tho Convention thus chosen by the pso plo— either by Parish Committees or Parish Con- yentlons—Wwere ingtructed to vote first, lust, and all the thine for those who were Known fo be Grant nen ts delegates to the Chicago hunvention, Cane host twvo-thinds, a largo number wero el, L suppose t So hujurity Were colored Iepublie- an.” sviyell, you fnatly got Into the Convention. nowant the bolt start, then 2? # Pst, the public were exeluded from tho hall bya number of Custon-Housy employés, while false delegates had been admitted, as the sequel proved, to ald Dumont in arbl- frarilynnd iNlegaly" reanizing the temporary orgatilzation. « Phese dulegates ranged theni- guives, While the roll was -buing eatled, on either side of the platforin, and when the motion was made by Dumgnt’s secretary to declare Dumont Chatriman by acelammtion, tt was put and decided carried by a vive voce yote without any references to the nombna- ttn by the. Grant’ men of Henry Duinns. Tho lntter’s friends claimed that hoe was gral cholce of tha Convention, the ae than two-thirds of thout aiouted for: Demag, and — declared elected, Deas started forward, but tin ally prevented from taklig the plat- form. He made repeated attempts to do. go, pat was hurled back with violence. When he beeame satisied that he couldn't reach the platform without producing a riot, he mounted a chal and called the Conyen- tlon to order, and, on motion, ndjotrned It to an adjacent room.” “po you JUSTIFY Youn noLT on the ground that the eompprnesy Chairman was Duproperly nominated 2 “Not only that. Our claim fy that the Conveution whieh elected those delegates— the Convention of which Twas a wmember— was composed of more than a majority of the Waliyeelected delewntes contained on Du- mont’s own roll-enll.. We had 115, and tho whole nutuber was 185,’ “And now you elaim seats os an entire delvgation in the Convention 2? “It's sisteen or nothing with me, [shall not sitonn half vote, No-halyes forme, I claim that our delegation represents the pop- ular will of Louisiana, ns it ty known to every nian, Woman, and child In the State, You may set itdown that ninety-nine out of every 100 Republicans in Louisiana are for runt.” “Quite sure of that, are you 2” “Gf course Tam,” “Po you think Grant can carry any of the Squitiern, Btates oP . 0. “Which ones 2”? neuen Florida, South Carolina, and reinia. * : a Why are you so confident of that?”. “Thelieve tho white people are more Inter- ested In retaining control of the local Gove ernment than they are in the National strug- lu. There aren great immny of these who have never identified themselves with the Republican party, but who will voto for iru “Will all the Republicans support jilm?” “They will” “Won't Uie Democrats count him or any other Republican out through thelr Return- Ang Board arrangements ?V That remains to be seen, ’m not so sure ofthat. I think if we ean get this white class actively fdentilied in the work we can tave the States I have mentioned.” “What makes you think the Independent Democrats—if thore are any—will do as you bay they will??? “The Independent Democrats and business menof tha South are deeply Interested In this thing. ‘They belleve, and I think rlght- ly, that it will haven quteting effect on the colored men, stop the exodus, and reassure their that they areto bo protected in thelr glits. Pe “You belleve Grant will be nominated, of course??? », 42% by neclamation on the first ballot. ‘The Sherman and Blaine folka will withdraw ed men, and Grant will get tt unanimous- And the confident Loulsiann man walked off, only to be tackled by another colored man, Mr. Quarles, who proceeded to demon- strateto Lim that neither Grant nor any other Republican candidate could by any possibility carry a single Southern State, -Pinchiback’s version of the Convention rep- Tesents ono side of the ease, and the reader will reudlly sea the points of difference be- tyeen it ‘and that given: by ex-Gov. War- oll, ‘Threo members of the regular Loulslana delegution— eS : “ EX-GOY, If, C. WATMOTI, Jndge John T, Ludeting, and James 8, Mal thews—arrived nt the Gurdner House yester- day worning, where they whore sean by a ‘MINUNE ruporter, who learned from them the true Inwardness of the bolt of the Grant Uepublicnns in the Loutslinia Convention. The reporter talked to alt threo delegates Atotice, but the majority of tha replies to his Questions came from Mr. Warinoth, who Is 0 ery ready and agreeable conversattonallst, ‘Tho first subject upon which {Information es sought was the bolt of the Grant men {1 5 he Lou! élana Convention. Sald the ex-Gov- “Previous to tho Convention an under standing Was renched between five men rep- Fesenting the Grunt Interest, tive represent- iH that of Sherman aud myself, who am for fi ‘ale, that the delegation should be divided. Into eight for Grant, seven for Sherman, aud one for Blaine, and that‘tho Grant ‘men ould have Grant delegutes, the Sherman Ben Sherman delegates, while 1 was to be a 1 Topresentative of the Blaine men. It was axrced that the Grant_men should have mo, tBpolntment of the ‘Temporary Chale. Gayand itso a majority on the Committes of ti entinls, The eleven mien representing ey tee Presidential candidates named - acd themselves that this agreement th be earried out in the Convention, but sore the Convention tha Grant men went wt OQeaucus to which they submitted the be ge. This caucus, consisting mostly of iiitestants and bummera, with only a fow ia erates, rejected the proposition, then re. . tt iered the matter, and appointed an- i a pe guulttes to confer with the Sherman i aluo men at 10 o'clock In tha morning ar meet no eg any, Just two hours beforo Ho meeting ot the Convention, At this con- in hea the Grant men again agreed to the reposition of the day before, stipulating, arent that tha delegation should be hi- ee ed for Grant, We took the ground that Baits ver: sbsurd to want to instruct seven fede elegates and ono Blaine delegate haa for Grant, ‘They then withdrew and. Dolley eoesuitation, wiley resulted In their ing aang us Just 1s the Convention was be- called to order, that they could not agree fron Ng ed Hey and asked us to release them Grant awe iS it Cele ‘The first aaOve of 8 \ vention was an attempt to give the chatr to Demus, the very man eaOM yee Upon as presiding. Gilcor in : » Damont, the Chairmai of the State Committee, was olected ‘Tempore bie ¥ Chatrinan, Whereupon Deinas atten [fn {3such, and when he found rene ioe auceead, the Grant. men bolted and <BR Gna ota i en i o Rorning and caused to bo, gutten ready for it being . alt being clear that they In: dge Ludeling here réniatked that thoro wat Be doubt abuut that, 04 sonie of the lead- them in, ay move ee Me : a ue Wad Fotiied him before the “Openliye hi ‘the'cone not what was golny toh ath at 4 to happen. of Mr, are coors se REDE ket ait, They co ACHUACK WAR AT THEIR NEAD. Gat fellred to thelr room and there elected nual hit Grant delegution of sixteen, We ed. rene where we were and | was palut- insist ae of the Convention, and. Ae guch shanti! tbat the spirit of the orfginal pladge Conve be carried out, which was done, tho ‘ention electing eight Grant, seven Sher- h ANd ONY Haine delegate, joug those body Ho} who entered Into tho pledgo was Judge Beattie, who ts now with the bolting delega- tlon at tho Palmer Mouse,” “ How will the Committes on Credentials decldy the dispute, think you 2? “There is no doubt that we will all be seated. One thing T_ will neknowledge, and that is that it the Grant men, if they had stall in the Convention, would have had- things their own way, ‘They lind the ma Jort tf beyond « doubt.” “What i thoy bolt for?” “The personnal ninbition of Beattie and Pinchback was nt tho bottom of the move, ‘Thoy wanted to have the running of the Grant boom, and ng they were overwelghted {nh tho Convention proper, thoy Bet up the holt #u ng to have ft belluved that thoy are the head and front of the Republican party in Louisiana. ‘The Grant Republicans—that is to say, the best.of thom—remalned in tho Convention for the goud of the pores: We want to elect three Congressmen if possible, certainly two, this fall, hut It can only be done ff ‘the party keeps together!” “po YOU THINK THAT GRANT CAN CARIY LOUISIANA 27” “‘Cortainly not. Ile can get more votes than any other Ropublican, but no Republic- an cnn carry tho State. ‘The Democrats havoarrgnced matters too well for that. ‘Thore {3 no law tn our State punishing of- fenders against tho election Inws, ‘The Duuioerata have repeated thom all, Tho omy luw left. by which they ean be reached {8 that aguinst perjury, and they get around that by letting the Commisstoners of Elcction net without taking nny onth of ofllee, Where the election ts all stralght the Commissioner takes nt oath after the elec- tiun is over, but when It Is not straight he takes no oath atall, ‘Tho clection machinery Is all in tho hands of the Government. ‘The Governor appolnts the pollee Jurles, who fix the polling-places and appoint all the Com- missioners of Election, He hits not ap- painted a slngle Hepubllenn on any pollee wry in the State, ‘The Governor also a polnts a Registrar of Voters in each pariah, and, take it altogether, the Republieans have ay uuch chnnes In a Louising vlecton as that cat which had no claws did InHell “ But, say, as between Grant and Tilden, if the weakest man on both sides should be nonnated, would thore not be a preference for the former?” “There ls no doubt that Grant has mado a yery favorable Impression down South by his spevches during his late tour, but neither that nor ‘Tilden’s unpopularity wil nuke any difference in the result, It makes no diference who ts nominated on efther side, the South will vote solid for the Democratic ewididate, Hancock ts their favorit, but it they cannot get him thoy will vote for Tllden. or any other nominee.” “Somme Grant men talk very confidently of his abiilty to break the Solld South,” “There’s not an honest Republican in the South—Grant’ or ant@irant—thot will not tell you the idea ts simBly preposterous, The Democraty have an electoral machiae down there that will erry all before It. he Grant men are looking for support in the South thoy are terribly mistaken, and tho: will find it out if tuey are figuring out thelr success next fall on the basis of a Southern Grant yote,”” é Mr. Warmoth here turned ‘to his brother delegates,—both strong Grant men,—and they indorsed what he sald, . “Tn the matter of reeond choice how docs your Yelogatlon stand 2?” “After Blaine Lam for. Grant. ‘The Sher- man men will by about equally divided be- tweon Grant and Blaine, the Grant men be- tween Sherman and Blaine? “Have you done anything towards seour- ing your recognition by’ the Convention?” “We have alrendy notiiied Mr. ale and Mr, Robinson, and we are now going to seo Don Cameron, We understand that Pinch back claims to be quite confident of success. While the fight was going on in New Orleans It wag stated there that Pinchback had re- evived a felesrany from Lon telling him to go alend with the bolt and that he (Logan) Would secure the recognition of the full bolt ing Grant delegation,” Accumpanylng Pinchback Is * , THEOPIUILE T, ALLATN; 4 Louisiana colored politician, who ts also a9 delegate from the bolting Grant Convention, He js rathor striking in appenrance, Le Iso man of feat hight und figure ant of light color. lie isu Creole planter of considera. ble influence, talks French fluently, and swears eloquently. Ile was. arrayed ina broad, light-colored felt hat with a narrow black band, and on hisexpansive frilled shirt- front gleamed 0 diamond set in a. cluster of rough gold. lis nobby coat and breeches, together with his general make-up, suggests the iden thot he hing at some tlie of ils Hfe figured on the nlustrel stags, Hels a volu- his talker, espechilly whon on the subject of" his political successes, ‘Turning to tho re- porter he sald: “So you're from ‘fun Tro UNE, are you?” *Yes2” meokly replied the Interviewer, Sarl down on the frilled shirt-front. _ . “Well, L dont lke Tie ‘Tramung. It's al- ways abusing me and Pinchback. It don’t treat tho colored people fairly. Now I was elected to the Legislature in 1808, 109, '70, °71, 72,973, and 174, and in 1875 L was elected to. tho Senxte, I was i member of the Consti- and jinve just been tutional, Convention, elected to the House for four years, Now the Governor hus appulnted me—" “That's all very woll, but please confine yourself to the situation in Louisiana, To come down to busitiess, what wags the cause ofthe bolt?” | “We bolted Uecauso the Temporary Chalr- man nominated by the Graut men Was not allowed to take fils seat in quiet. Demag then went Into anothor room nnd organized the Convention. ‘The officeholders were all for Sherman, ‘opto don’t know any- but Grant. Why, I was lected to the Yes, you have explained that. How man; delegates did the bolters have 2" i Allain rolled his eyes, and unblushingly said, “115 outof 185, I was elected for four- teen years to the Legislature, and now "— “And now you have told me that bofora, Would the colored people vote for‘any other candidate just the same?” hn “Yeu, if they think that it would'‘not be a repetition of the present Administration with its polley. The exodus can only be stopped by agsuring the colored people that they will be protected, and that Js what we want Grant. T, : “Do you really expect to be admitted to ents 27° “Cortalnly we do. They wouldn't kee; meout. Inn well known in Louisiana, ‘was elected to the’?)— Here the ininstrel element was entirely in the ascendant, and tha Sroporter: ‘fully ex- pected to sve 4 tambourine drawn from some rocess, and the proud officeholder up the marble floors of the Palmer Mouse, With w queer combination of shrugs, onths, and grimaces, the volatile Creole left tho un- sympathutic reporter, to explain to Senator Camvron, Who was praging, how many thues he had been elected by his constituent KENTUOKY. Mi Woop, aresident of Newport, anda delogate from Kentucky, was about during tho day at the Grund Pacific, Soins ono, apparently o Democrat, was talking loudly {n tho grand rotunda of the house for Grant, and in the discussion Wood was drawn out. "Wo Democrats,” sald the stranger, “are strong for Grant, but ('ll be —if we'll vote for hin.” “That's just what I thought,” sald Wood, “What right have you to namcaman for whom you won't vote, and whom you will try to defeat ? I hate n political ounuch.’? ¢ Thore was quite a crowd—and that anti- Grant—about the old man, Three of thom were old voterans, carrying honorablo scars, and they were quite svt igalnatGrant, "We, as old soldiers,” said they, “don't want hiing the people dot want litin; the Republican party won't support him,’ Shortly after the opisode a Tripune re- porter saw Afr, Wood, and he sald: “I don't want to talk to the newspapers, ‘There are five outspoken antl-Giant men inthe Ken- tucky delegntion, and we'll fight the unit tule. It ls right against tho vital prinelples ofthe Republ Henn party. ‘The rent success of tho party hag been that it hag respected individuals; that it has heretofore toflawod the «dictation fue one man, and ft won't fol- low itnow,. ‘The unit rule ly the wort foat~ ureot Democracy. and Statos-rights, and it wal ba toughen Convention and be yotod down, A PROMINENT KENTUCKIAN, who said that he had yory Food reasons for not desiring hly nanie In print, remarked to ua Tune nan tl the Kentucky deluga- tlon was not 6 unit for Gon. Grant, “On what do you base such stutement?” “On personal” knowledge, Four at lvast of the twenty-four are bitterly opposed to the ex-President.) | + “On what ground?” “On the ground that he cannot be clectad. They bollova that his nomination will be the precursor of Democratlo victory,” “Do you anticipate dunger of a bolt?” “ Yes, 8! ry it the Senatorial Syndicate at- tempt to bulldoze the Convention, there will be grave dangers of a division, 9 Shure mun and Blaine men will stand no such fool- ishuess, Should the whip be cracked In the s . Convention, the water, which {fs now foam- Ing, will bo at steam heat.” MI. JONN W. FF: at the Grand [aelfie, iy from C ton, Ky. ail te ox pressutl hiingelf as favoring Blasi “Tow do you maine the delegation feel in, Fugue to'the candidates 2 “Many of them are for Grant? “Phe “Well,” returned Mr. Fennell, ‘there's a squabble over that. No instructions were ven at the Congressional Convention, ‘The delegates were chosen by districts, they re- culyed written Instructions from their Chatr- ten and Secretaries, and. they will ablde by these Instructions, Lauppose.” Ms Whom did the Covington District fa- “Nine-tenths of them were for Sherman.” "You nre in what position in regard to the unit rule?” i “Tdow't know cnough about It to ventura an oplaton,” int the -ititiot lave you any opinion upon the ItInols dinientey fr OY OP Lg “D—n tho Ilinols difficulty.” “How many: Rd your delegation do you atlppose favor Blalne? “ My own opliton is that there are elght or ten out of tho twenty-four, although you ean seareely tell how many thore are. I tell you what tt fs, my experience of National ‘onventions Ig that they nro —d micertatn, ‘They are like horse-races, you can’t tell any thing about thein until they're over.” MICHIGAN. 8. D, IINGAM, OF LANSING, for cight years Chalrman of the Michigan Republican State Central Committee, wns seett last evening by Trnuxe reporter at tho Grand Pacific Hotel. In response to a question, he sald: “Tdoubt, if Grant were nominated, if he could carry the State of Michigun. We would, in such on event, surely lose two Congressional districts, and probably three.”” “ How do the people In your State regard Logau’s tactics?” asked the reporter. “The feellng of Indignation fs quite as strong, If not stronger, in Michigan, and oll over the country, at the outrage perpetrated than it isin the State of Iinols, Lt has aroused the people to tho danger of a third term. Tho Republican party was or- ganized tn Jackson, Mich, June 6, 1854, and Lwas present at tts birth. I be- Neve a State that has always been Republican inst the flelil, should have something to 1 the selection of n President, We hiwe become determined that tho antl-Republican States shall nut name or make the President and choose a man in opposition to the will o! tho masses of the Republican party.” MAYO W, G. THOMPSON, OF DETROIT, & Michigan delegate, and tho seeond Repub- Henn Muyor of Detroit for twenty years (the prior one haying been elected in 1860), was found in Long Jones’ room at the Grand Pacific. He fy the only Grant man in the Michigan delegation, Ife js apparently very bitter about somebody. “Ithought,? sald the roporter, “that you’ were elected adele- Gate ag n Washburne man?” “Two-thirds of iny district were for me, and I was thon, and ‘am now, an outspoken Grant man, Jum for Grant, and the way it caine to be'understood that 1 was for Wash- burne was because Lsiid so In a joke to a correspondont of a Chicago paper, who tele- ‘raphed the fact to hig Journal. ‘The district that elected ine Is outspoken for Grant, and [ am, for anybody to beat James G, Blutne, But 1 will say that if Blaine Is nominated 1 will support him, or any other Republican that the Convention muy select.” “What do you think of affairs in Illinols 0” “'The troubles hers T know nothing about. Thave no business with them. All I know dy that much worse was dono against me in my own district In the endeavor tu de- feat mew? J “Are there any other Grant men In your del lon??? am probably the only Grant man who will vote for hin on the first ballot. 1 was opposed to Blaine four years ago, and I was the pivot upon which the Michigan delega- tion turned at Cinclanatt then,” NEW JERSEY. MAJ. ZK. PANGBORN, alternate from the Seventh New Jersey Dis- trict, and editor of the Jersey City Evening Journat, arrived at the Grand Pacifle yester- day morning. He is here in the interest of Mr. Blaine, and also to spend hig honey- moon, he having recently taken to himself a wife. As regards the complexion of tho New Jersey delegation, Mr. Pangborn sald that it fs solidly for Blaine; while the Convention did not pronounce for the Illustrious Maine statesinnn, yet there was and isa tuelt un- derstanding that the delegation will vote as a unit for Sonator Blaine so lougas ho has any show of success. “ What are tho personal preferences of the delegation 2” “ Well, as regards personal preference tho “Qelegation {s divided. You imny say that the elghteen are divided as follows: Blaine, 10; Washburne, 8; Edmunds, 1; Sherman, 5.” “ It is reported that Kilpatrick is a Sher- man man, and that there fs 8 prospect of his golng over to the Ohio man on tho first prov- ocation; how Is that?” “Tdoubt It, Gen. Kilpatrick is in honor bound to stand by Blaine as long as he isn candidate, In theConvention which selected him as a delegate he said distinctly that he would sink hig personal preference for Sher- man in obedience to the overwhelining senti- ment manifested for James G. Blaine.” “Do you have reason tq bellove that Grant will receive a single voto from your State?” “No, sir; emphatically no, sir! Any dele- mate, who may voto for the candidate of tho third-term syndicate will misrepresent te politicnl sentient and patriotism of the Re- publlenn party of Now voreoy, Why, Now lorsoy {8 almost a unit aguinst the third term. With the exception of the Paterson Press overy Republican paper in the State is pronounced against the third term; and so unpopular fs Grantin the Paterson district that the editor of the Presa was unable to go to the Convention, he having been defeated at tho primaries, I wish you would em- phasize tho remark that the NewJersey dole- ation {sin honor bound to stand by James & Bialne until his defeat is compassed.” “Do you know anything of the reported coalition between tha ‘Sherman and Blaine nen to defeat the three bosses? “Phot matter has not assumed define shape, but I foel assured that all good men, from every section of the country, who have tho success of the Republican party at heart will unite to overthrow the rule or ruin pol- loy of the third-termers, Judging from re- peated Intercourse gwith lending men who represent tho various candidates, 1 feel safo du saylng that opposition to the third term ayndleate will eventually crystallize, but no wlinit action hasbeen taken, If we con de- fent the third-term managers at the tlic of organization we shall ngminate a inan inhin- ical to such interests, uf I belleye that min will be James G. Biniue, ff his friends will only pairs 10 il A What ig your Impresaion as to the proba- ble strength, of ine respective candidates in ie Convention * 7 belleve that the antl-third-torm element will be in tho majority. Grant and Blaine will be evenly inatchod, and the other candl- dates will hold the balances of power. It ts truo that the Grant men clalm « majongy, but thoy have been clalining too niuch, 18 best claim made by tho third-term managers 804 for Grant, Analyze this claim, and you will sco thut, of the 30% votes claimed only 103 aro from Republican States, Ono of the anes- tions to be decked py the National Repub. lican Convention [s, Shull States whieh will not give a Republican majority dictate the nomination of our eandidate for tho Prusl- dency? I believe that the wisdom of per- ailtting Republican States to nominate the man they propose to eluct will be acknow!l- edged, iat ® representative statesinan like Blaine will be the choles of theye Stites. Qne word more, You may state thut Nuw Jersey will uso her influence and votes agulust tho enforcement of the unit rule. ‘THUR ON, groin a WaALsEY, dolegate-at-large from New Jersey, waa en- rat in breparing tho Headquarters of that hi jegation at the Grand Pacific when asked the question: “I understand that you are reportad ag belng & Grant man ee * Yea (Inughing}, It {3 so stated; but thero Ig nothing Init, fean’t understand why such aatatument should have been made No, ay Tm agalust Grant and in fuyor o ale, “ How about the Now Jersoy delegation; {3 it golldly Blatne 2? “Yes. While it will probably givo Mr, Diaine Its entire support, yetsome of the del- t ” Ty 4 delegation were instructed for ze egates prefer Ar, rina; they arc, huw- few in number; Low many P? ot Gtulseye you have passed through a ‘e iM umber of Btaten au vour route to Chicaso, wlint Pid tho color -of tho political sentl- men “Very much against tho third term. An advocate of Gen, Grant among the masses of Tuvinessinen and of capitalists Is hard to find, ‘The rank and the file of the Republican party are againstdhe third term. Dut excuse iow, L will be glad to talk Jater, ‘fhe Jersey delegation will) be here in two sections, ont vin, Philadelphia atul the other via Jersey Clty? MIL WILLTAM WALTEI PHELPS, who practlees Inw in? New York and Ives In New Jersey, aud who is a dele; atccatlarge from that State, is at the Grand Vacitic, Ho said ton ‘Trinunk reporter: “Tan for Blaine fret. Lam herote help defeat, Grant beenuge ‘of the tlanger that there $s ina third term and of the opposition that there Is to the renomlmuion of Grant by ‘very large portion of the Republican party, Tthink Tan butone of nerowd who feel that way, and who: compoxe considerably more thin one-half of the Convention, who will to anything to beat Gen, Grant.” antes tlues the New Jersey delegation stand @ “As I understood st, the Convention at Trenton expected us first, without lastruc- thon, to do what we could for Bialne, and at the same time knew that the Ind{fvidual preferences of some were for some other inn, but T don’t think that any of them had alirst prslerenen for Grant,” in this connection it might be stated that the Grant followers lave all along clalmed two votes from Néw Jersey, Including Mr, Phelps and Mr Halsey, both of whoin are Blaine men, who would not vote forsGrant under any contingency. “ Tow are you on the unit rule??? “Individually, and as the policy of the State, [ bellove that every delegate from New Jersey ts opposed to the unitrute, I look upon that rigas Gen. Garfield does upon in- troducetng Coufederate. Tegislation to govern Union communities. I don't reeagnize tho Stati right to instruct any but its delegates: at-large,’ “Could the State of New Jerscy be carriod for Cirant?”? “T am deeldedly of tho opinion that tt could not. ‘The numination of Gen. Grant would net as a discouragement on our part, Lthink that the State could be carried under its present favorable condition for any one else, but on account of the large German vote In| Newark perhaps nore likely for Washburne than any other man, though my personul preference Is for Bining or Sherman efore hl,” “How do you regard Dlaine’s strength in the Convention 2” “T think that if, the unit rale is abrogated his vote In tho. Convention will be close to Gen. Grant's, with a better chanee that he would have asilght majority, 1 have large Interests In Pennsylvania, and I know per sonally some of tho delegates from that State Who have assured me of thelr Intention to break away from thoir instructions given by the State Convention, Lallude to bolters, if you choose to call them that, but they are mibte as hiose nuns have not yet got Into print. “Whatdo you think of the Illinols dim- culty aud its probable outcome?” “Tam clearly of the opinion thata major- ity of the Natlonal Convention Is opposed to tle nomination of Gen, Grant. 1 belluve It is their Intention as a duty to instruct Senator Cameron in calling tho roll upon the nami. nation of a‘Lemporary Chairman to disre- gard the nnit rule, and, In that case, asa najority of the “Convention will put In a ‘Yempourary Chairman who will be governed by the same principle, and the Committee on Contested Delegations, belng ninde up of anti-Grant men, the majority will recognize the rightof the Congressional districts to name thelr own delegates, and this ruling of course, wiil adinit the Ilinols contesting delegation,” VERMONT. * THE FIUST INSTALLMENT OF JUDGE ED- MUNDS’ FORCES arrived at the Palmer Mouse last evening from Vermont, and wag nadu up of ex-Gov. Gregory Siuith, L. B. Cross, and 11, C, Bel- den, delegates, together with J, D, Uatch, Mayor of Burlington; W. A. DuBols, State Bank Commission of Vermont, J. TL. Clark, E, E, Goddard, Alex, Noble, Edward C. Smith, « son of tho ex-Goyvernor, and George 'T. Childs, the ex-Governor's private scere- tary. ‘The remainder of the delugntion—sev- en ‘in number—will bo here to-day or to- morrow. ‘The reporter made It a polnt.to call upon ex-Goy. Smith after supper, and found him enjoying a clgar In Parlor E, ‘The preliminary convergation-over, the roporter bronched tho all-absotblng topic, and found tho Governor quite ready to talk. * Of course,” sald he, our Stato wants Judge Edinunds, if it can get him.) Whit will be tho complexion of things here re- mains to be seen. Ifitshould turn out that there should be no possible chance for Judge Edmunds, then wherever our ‘delegation shull gravitate we shall try to gu to- gether,” “ Who would be their second cholee?* “ft hardly know that, myself.” “Would the delegation be favorable to Washburye?” “ With us Washburnets not na well known ashe is with yous but, if the tlds should set in his fayor, Vermont would bo satisfied with him, and would give him all her yotes this. fall, Sherman is quite «ao favorit with us, too, particularly on account of hiy financial policy, which has met the npprobation of conservative old Vermont, It Sherman should develop strength enough to glve him any chance of the numinution, £ think our delegation would support him with all its votes, provided, always, we can’t get Editinds.” “1t is pretty safe to say that Grant is not your delegution’s second cholee, Is It not?” “IT think they would vote for him if It ap- peared that he was the favorit man, and there ‘was no show for Edmunds, although tare areagreat many people in the State who ure opposed to lili, not as\n man, but because of the third-term objection and the grave doubts as to to whether he could unite enough strength to make lls election certalu, But mont will auppart the nominee, whoever ho may bee What I fear is, that the Grant and Blaine men are geting go em- Dittered that It will be ditticult to draw thom off on any agreed canilidate,”” “WIAT Do YOU THINIC OF TH UNIT RULE? “Tthink they will break it, I haven’t any idea they can carry It unless they have strength onough to nominate Grant ou the first ballot. 1 haven't felt that thoy have that strength, for I don’t see whore it ls cou ug from,’ “Most of their alleged strength seems to bo comlng from the South,” “Phat amounts to nothing except In tho Convention, Itmakes no propress towards the: Presidency, for the South ly Democratic every thu “Would Judge Edmunds’ alleged letters, expressing a persoutl preference for Grant, weigh much with your delegation 2” “Tdom't think “he has written any auch letters as ure reported,—not such strong letters as aro reparted.!* “I view of the ‘anos bot to Gen, Grant in so many of the Northern Stutos—it exiuts, na you siy, to some extent in even in your own State—what do you think of his availnbility as a enndidate??. “Much ag 1 adiuire Gen, Grant, I have ye ‘ave doubts whether he could be elected, ‘here Is avery intensy feellag, f find, agaist him,—not a feellng of porsenal hostility to him, but a feeling of distrust of his ability to unite the people. ‘Then thers fs this sonti- ment, whieh provails to a great extent, of ox- treme opposition to the Uilrd-term. Enterlny the campaign under such clreumstances, he nomination would destroy the force an prgstiga which a clean man would carry, and should have very grave doubts whether he could unite tho” party here at the North, where he must be olveted, If elected at all,’ “Do you rexurd thy antl-third-torm feeling sa Heri sourtiiciriallty, ” . “Whether it jan senthinont, or what It ts, itis there, and it is very hurd to eradicate It. df Grant could have boven nominated fn Inedintely on his return,~and the, olection coult haye come off at once, 1 think he would have swept the country. . But ag things are situated to-day, L should doubt yery much if he could.” “Whit do you think of the questionable methods pursued by ‘his partisans to forces Aly nomlnation 2" : * Of course, us politicians, these men feel Sd Oa Ba ea ie fe wcllen carry thel ni Hilppoge, Whether tho senthuent ‘of tha Convention is strong enough to overrule then or uot ru inutns to be seen.” ate nat Mis De 7, Cons, one of the Vernunt:delegation, only wished tu say Hat his dulogation. wus! solld for Ed- munis While his hats Was befure the Con: vention, “hey woitkd act as unit on all questions, and probunly would vote to sus twuuigeavet tilrty-ve Volek, for lediaunda wenty-five to thirty-Ave votes for Edun on thé tirat ballot, bat belleves that the num. ber will receive heavy ucceasionsy on cach successive ballot, Lu regurd to a second ustitied In resorting to any exe , only clutuis from eholce, Mr. Cross beligves that of the ten ilelugates many favor Blalne, while there arenbout twe ene for Grant and Sherman. With regard to the Illinols contest they have eoine to no decision, and have given but lit- tle consideration to the matter, Mr. H, €, Helden, another delegate from tho saiuw State, held shuilar views, and was almilarly reticent. SOUTIL CAROLINA, TUE HON. E. W. M. MACKEY, of Charleston, 8... reached the city last night, and fs stopping at the Sherman House, He occuples 9 somewhat prominent position Sn the political history of his State, and his name fg familiar to newspaper readers ns the Speaker of the ‘Mackey House” when Chamberlain was Governor, He was in the Forty-fourth Congress, and was reélected to the Forty-alxth, but counted out by the Democrats, and {s contesting for the scat, He was Chairman of the State Convention, and heads the aelegation from South Caro- Ina, A’ Trung reporter caught him just after he had registered, and began an Inter- view with: “ Trow does your delegation stand?” “That is 8 puzzle,” was the reply. “What is you best Judgment 2” “Well, our delegation was Instructed for Grant by the State Convention." “ How were the delegates elected 2” “ Four from the State at Inrge by the Con- -vention and the others by the Uistricts, the nominations belng ratified by tho Convention ag a matter of form.” “Do you know thelr. Individual pref- erences 2? “YT hinven’t consulted with them,—have seen only three or four,—and it would be ale niost impossible to say how they stand. will depend a great deal upon THE DECISION OF THE CONVENTION ON THE UNIT RULE." “Are there any Blaine or Sherman men among them 2? Yes; Blaine, and Sherman, and Grant?’ “How do they feel as ty the unit rule 2” “T have never talked with thom on the gubject. We have not discussed the mat- “Are you famillur with the Ilinols case 2” “Yes, I understand It pretty fully. [have read about everything that has been said on both stdes in thie Chicago aud New York pa- ery. “What do you think of It?" “Thave an opinion, but I don't care to ex- BS, it, because the matter ls to come up in ho Convention, As svon us our delegation arrives we will consult and probably act to- gether as nearly as possible.” ee Do the majority of the delegation prefer ran “Tdon't think so, ‘Mind, I do not say that a mojority willnot vote for him under thelr Instructions.” “Will they do so If tho unit rule Is not en- foreed ?” “ Some of them would If It ts not enforced, deeming that they are imorally bound by the action of the State Convention.” - an Grant carry South Carolina, 1f nonil- nate “No. Our State would give 25,000 Repub- lean majority with a fslr election and a falr count, but if the Republican party noiml- nated an angel the Democrats down there wouldn't give hima fair count. In my dis- trict Twas elected by 6,000 majority, wut when the votes caine out of the boxes there wag 0,000 majority for my Democratic com- petitor.”” “Some juggling was done ?? “They perform sleight-of-hand tricks down there by which Republican majorities aro turned Ite Democratic majorities. ‘There is no doubt that If the 134 Electoral votes of the South are necessary to elect a Democratic President, the certificates from eyery one of the Southern States will be given to the Demucratic Electors, whether ey are elected or not.” “Then you don’t believe GRANT CAN CAIY A SINGLE SOUTHERN STATE 2” "TI don't think any Republican, who [3 nominnted ean carry any Southern State, It ig perfect folly to rely upon a Southern State. lt is not 8 use fon of carrying. ‘The inen who claim that Grant can carry any Southers State don't seem to realize that there is n difference between carrying and getting the Electoral votes. There isn’t o particle of doubt that we can carry three or four of the Sonthorn States, but it would he hard te convince the people in the North that we did it, because in every Southern State the election maghinery, is fn the hands of the Democrats, and It {s clear tomy mind that they are not golng to give up what they haye stolen. It is folly to suppose that they will surrender one of tho States to any Republican, The talk about Grantenrrylng any Southern State Js all bosh. To assume that auy Republican can earry one isto assume that the Democrats have suddenly becume honest, and will sur- render — goo they have been at so muuch trouble to get possession of. ‘They -stolo those States when we had the army and navy and both Houses of Congress at our backs} and do you suppose we can get one of then hack now? The sug- gestion fibsurd and ridiculous,” “Te the South is unable to givo the party ennuldate a single Electoral vote, the dele- gales there guelt certainly not to dictate the nomination “T dont think the South ought to dictate the nomination. We lave some interest in its atill L think the delegates fromthe South ought to yield very much to those from the States which can give the nominee Electoral votes,’ ba! zou say your delegation ts instructed for iH bs “Yes, but we are in A RATHER ANOMALOUS POSITION, The Convention first passed n resolution ine structing for Grant, ‘Then it turned around and elected four delegates-at-large who were opposed to Grant, and who had sald openly that they were in favor of some other man, And wiien all the delegutes had been se- lected, n resolution was presented calling on them to pledge themselves to abide the action of ue Convention but that resolution wis ald on the % “Then you are under no obligation to fol- low the instructions ?”” “Ibis a question for cach man to decide for himself. When tho delegation get to- gethur I suppose they will tallc the matter over, and decide what too, T rather think ag majority will vote for Grant." * And stick to Lit right atong 2) “T don't know about that Grant isn’t nominated on the first ballot, I think the wma Jopity will vote for Bluine.”” “ifow is the sentient in South Carolina. ‘ag to Gran’ ‘“Thore 1s no doubt that among tho masses the sontiment is favorable to Grunt, though ut the same tine there isa very strong ad- aiiration for Blaine, While Grant {s_ thelr preference, I think they would be perfectly gatished with the nomination of Blaine. ‘They have heard inuch of im during the inst four years. ‘I'he colored people all over the South profer Grant of all the candidates because they know him better; hfs name J3 more familiar” : “ But they couldn't help him any»? “Of course not.” A’Tutmuse reporter ran across at the Palmer, yesterday afternoon, A GENTLEMAN FNOM DEAUPORT, 8, C., Vho was sald to know tho true status of the South Carolina delegation, which, It will porhaps be remember hus all along been counted us solid for Grant, though within a day or two one vote out of tho four- twent. has been concedod te Sherman, ‘The gentlewman domurred to t flually agreed to “answer questions" It his name were not glyen. “1s the South Carolinu delogation solld for Grant?” asked the reporter. “By no means, ‘Tho Grant mon fool thome selves Whon they count on it” “ How does It stand?" “A friend of mine, who ts one of the dela toy aud is pretty well informed, tuld me nat there were five Sherman men, five Bnluo men, and four Grant men, Lknow raonully that of tho four tlelogates nt large Tires fre for Shorman and one for Blaine!” aun the delegation Instructed for rant? “Yes and no, ‘The StateConvention Ty an instruction resolution, but a motion to have tho, delegates pledge thomselyes was yotod down. Bo they aro frec to act as the choose, and mark me, if the Graut men don" take care, they will get very few votes from that delegation even on the first ballot” ———— OTHER STATES. NEW WASIPHIIIUS, “My proference,” sald Mr. James G- Sturgis, of Manchester, N, 11, emphut- feally, tn response to tho reportorla! queryy “1g for Blaine”. ‘ Mr. Sturgis arrivod last night, and ls quar- tered at the Grand Pacific, “And In regard to Grant—"? “Grant last,” sald he, .“ And your second choles #7” “Lam not prepared ta say, After Blaine, wing luterviowed, | Iam In favor of the man most Itkely te bo acceptable to the entire Republican party.” “Your dolegation—are they unanimously in favor of Blalne?"? “Yes, all tho members nro for Blaine. In- dividually, [ am ready to support ony man nominated by the Convention.” “Suppose Urant gets the nomination, what doyon hink would be his chances for suc- 3? “Well, I would scarcely care to oxpresa an opinion, ‘There is ons thing, however, in my judgment, against him. fig Inst four years of office were four years of unistal depres- ston, and it is hard to erase from the public tind the hnpression thathis Acininistrations were In sume degree responsible for the then condition of the country.” “ How do you look upon tho unit rule, Mr. Sturgis? “Tam opposed to it.” “ How does the delegation regard It?” “Well,” sald he, hesitatingly, "1 could sentcely say, but [bellevo a few of thei are not opposed to It.” opinion fn regard to the “TIave you nny Tii{nols sunabbled icant iad i “T don't know enough abou! at presen to form an opinion’ 1 TEXAS. The only delegato who ling arrived thus far at the Matteson House, where, however, alarge munber of Blaine inet. from Maine, Massnehiusetts, and New Hampshire are ex- Pesied toarrive this morning, isn sturdy jerinan from Text wamed Robert Zapp, halling from Round Top, in the Fifth Con- essional District of the Lone Star State, Mr, Zapp stated to Tre Tuimuse reporter yesterday evening that, as be understoad it. thé resolution pissed at the Texas Conven- tion Sndorsing Gen. Grant bound the delega- tlon to cast Its first voted solid in his favor, At the saine time he was sure that a majority of the sixteen were, as hoe ti y posed to Grant, and, in tho even rule being disregarded, the chances were that each delegate would vote in accordance with hig potittcal predilections, ‘The feeling in ‘Texas was notin favorof Grant, but the Grant men dd the best work tu the Conven- tion, sectirin, the passage of resolution which by (ne means re- flected the = true” feeling oof | the State, On the subject of the steal of, the State of Lilinols by the Grant men, Mr. Zapp stated thot the act met with the reprobation of all the non-Grant men of the delegation, who would second whatever endeavor would beande In the Convention to remedy the wrong which had been committed, Le ac- knowledged that he and his brothor deleuates, and the ‘Texas Republicans at large, had been deecived by the misstatements of the Grant men and the (Grant newspapers ns to the strength of their cendidate, ‘The St. Louis Globe-Democrat, 2 paver which, notwith- standing the fact that It never Joges an oppar- tunity to vilify the State of ‘Texas and its vople, ling nevertheless a large circulation in the State, and its extravagantly incorrect reports on the condition of the Grant boom have tended largely to cause the tmeapprehension already = men- tloned. Mr. Zapp acknowledged that he had been himself deceived, and that since his arrival here he had investl- ated for himself and been undecelved, He ind, he said, heard the orators speak dure the day, nnd had also conversed with many of the Grant leaders, Who had sought to fin- press hin with the fact that the ex-President was the only man whoin the Republicans could possibly elect this fnll. He had alsv conversed with other people, and after calin> ly considering the subject all evening hi coing to the conclusion that the only gency in front of the Republican purty was one that would arise In caae of the noimina- tion of Gen, Grant, Ho belleved there were other candidates—he declined to mention niames—who could be more ensily elected, but with Teutonic respect for an obligution he sald that, considering hiinself bound to carry out in his first vote the wish of the Convention which elected hin, he would, if the uit rule prevailed, cast his first vote in. fuyor of Grant, Me declined to tell’ for whow his second vote would go, but when the name of Blaine was mentloued he sintled knowingly, and remarked with quict force: “There are inany Republicans in ‘Texas who think a good deal of Binine.” There is no doubt that the Texns gentleman from Round Top is forthe Plumed Kulght, and of out- siders his choice ig for Washburne, VINGINLA, James D. Brady, a delegate from Virginia. was called on by Tite Titnuse representa- tive, but was unwilling to say anything, be- cause he had noticed that “ the Rewspupers here in Chicago print everything a fellow saya. He could only say that the Virginia delegation was instructed te vote for Grant, Dut that Sherman was undoubtedly the sec- ond choice of almost all the delegates, Ho wouldn't say anything as to the action of tho delegation on any of the important ques- tions, EX-GOV. MARSHALL JEWELL, of Hartford, Conn., arrived yesterday at tho Grand Pasitic. Ie is not n delegate, butonly “a looker-on in Vienna,” “Ihave ne-opin= fon to express,” sald he to a Thuune re- porter, “and I don’t know how the dvlega- Uon from Connectleut stands, Tho delega- tion will be here on Monday.” “Do you favor Gen. Gruit's nomination 2 “ Please dg, not ask me any questiuns; Lom no delegate.” ‘WISCONSIN, * ‘ United States Marshal Henry Fink, of Milwaukee, says that there arc three certaln delegates from Wisconsin for Sherman, wid he thought that Sherman would finally Bet Ww out of the 18. Wisconsin was solidly anti- rant. E, Enos, of Waukesha, member of the Na- tlonal Committee from Wisconsin, ts at the Grand Pacific. He hag nothing to add ta what he has recently sald in Lue Trung, CAMERON SAT DOWN ON.’ HE FAILS TO GET THE ENVOSITION UUILD- “ING FOR A GRANT DLOWoUT. : There seems to be no limit to the rapacity or cheek of the Senntorial bulldozers, who are endeavoring by all means fair and fottl to saddle on the country a third-term Pres!- dent, agaist whom every town and hgmlet has protested, that they may retain thelr gripon official patronnge. Not satisfied with having appropriated to their greed the States of New York, Pennsylvania, und Mlinols, they concocted Thursday a plan to rob the National Convention itself to awell their Ill- gotten gains. Tho lwposing indignation meetings of the antl-third-termers ut Central Music and Farwell Halls was o blow botween the, eyes’ which they did not expect, and the result was the issu- anes of orders to the | local Crnut shrickers that they must seo tho anti-third- termerg and go them one better. With the silence and seerecy of tho thief in tho night the scheme was incubated, Yt was nothing more nor less than the threeny of the Expu- sition Bullding for a Grant demonstration Monday nigh. They secured 9 mimjority of pliant tuols on the Local Committee, whoare wedded to the “third-term” Idea, and these gentlemen displuyed an overweenlig anxiety to turnover the bullding to thy Cameron quintet before it was fluished, ‘The reasons for it were not apparent at the time, but the events of yesterday disclosed the auimus.ot the proceoding., Tio or three days ago tho Vion, W. KE, Chandler, of New Hamp shire, proposed to Jolin ©. New, one of the Cameron quintet, that tho use of the amphitheatre be given Saturday night for a grand Blulne demonstration. Mr, Now retused, on the ground that the amphi- theatre tay) been vspoctally eructud tor tho National Convention, and ta allow tt to bo used for any other political purpose before the sitting of the Conyention might lead to an wnpleasuntness, which it was desirable to avold, With this explanation of the situa: tion Mr. Chandler expressed satisfaction, and allowed the mutter to drop. What was his astonishment in reading in the morning papers, and purticularly In the Grant organ, & statement that a mummoth third-torm hooting would bo hold In the building Monday evening. TIM BAD FAITH ON THils VAIIT OF CAMRION asqumed the proportions of. mountain, and it did not take hin jong. toact, Ie called to his ald Goy, Jewell, Gen. Heath, Eugene Tigle, and Gen, Averell, and the party pro- ceeded to tha Pater Mouse headquarters, and, finding Dou Caiweron, protested ugulnst tha uso of tho building fer any such purpose, Thoy got no satisfaction. ‘The Pennsylvania Mogul stated tha meeting would be held, and then lnformed Mr, Chandler yery coolly that ho could Mle his protest us of record. Finds hit that Mr. Cameron was obstinately ro- mF at to vere In tha Jareeny of the bullding, Comunittva left iim and pro- ceeded he utlica’ of ol, J.P. Reynolds, the: Secretary of the Exposition Company, He too had suen the announce- eR reg aa ho Gran were playing. Ho tnfarme Mr. Chandler that the use of the ‘bulla {d not be had for any such purpose, which yay ot luclude tp iio terustou witch the 3 bullding was lonned to the National Conven- tlon, ith this assurance tha Committes took their departure, and the discnmfited Grantites found consolation fi claiming that it was alla mistake, arising out of «a mlsun- derstanding for which they wero not ro- sponsible. THE GN, WILLTAM F. CHANDLER rave his vemion of tha attempt of the Don aneron-Gfint faction to secure the use of the Exposition Building Monday evening for a Grant powwow. He sald: “A commictee, consisting of ex-Ciov, Jewell of Connecticut, Gen, feath of Michigan, and myself, nt the request of a dozen of the members of the Na- tional Committee, called upon Don Cameron and the Committee who hind the bullding In charge to remonstrate against having 1 meeting In Gen. Grant's Interest nt the Expo- sition ullding. Don Cameron sale that the thing was settled, and that the Grant meet ing would bo held there Monday eventng, and it was no tse to talk nboutit. Tu salil our protest would be recefyed and Med, but the Grant meeting would be held just the same, Our Cominittce told him that tho building had been refused to tho antl-Grant men, on the ground thatthereshould be no po- litienl meetings held there previous to the Con- vention. Don Cameron said that he knewof no. such apreuiiont, and that the meeting would be held, Gov. Jewell continued the argu- ment with Mr, Cameron, but le sald that {t was no use talking, and the gentlemen retired. “* But the Exposition Cominittee,” satd Mr, Chandler to tho reporter, “deelded that {nus much ag an app leation from one slide had been made and refused, and that it would tend to destroy the harmony of the Convention and a great partisan political gathering would injure the property, that, saneeatialltly, no such meeting could be held, And they have notified the Chairman of the National Com- inittee of the deelsion. . “Tt is very unfortunate for the Grant men that the Committee to take charge of the Convention appointed by Chairman Cam- eron consists of tive Grant men, aud that he refused to apnulny Gen, John T. Averell, who had received just uinetcen yotes for Chairman to twenty-two for him (Cameron). Such gross and unprecedented parliamentary discourtesy throws suspicion over everything the Comittee dovs.?” SESSE BUALDING. “ What is there about this talk of a Grant meeting at the Exposition, Hall Monday night 2” said the reporter to Jesse Spalding, Chairman of the Local Executive Couunttter, and one of the few hovest Grant men who has freely admitted that he has no sympathy with the action of the bulldozer from Jack- son County tn the State Convention. “'There has been n good deal of talk about stich # ineeting,” sald Mr. Spalding, “Sand T lave taken the pains ta look ito the matter, Thave informed myself on the subject, and. youl can stite, ns combg from me, that thers n't going to be any meeting In the Exposl- tlon Holl Monday night. Afure than thal there will be no polltical meeting there untl Wednesday noon, when the Natloyal Con- pvention, is enlled to order,’” Mr. Spalding asserted this with a good denl of emplinsis, and an aponrent intiina- tion that he spoke by the card, SECRETARY REYNOLDS was interviewed, nnd_he did not hesitate to express his mind freely. . * Application,” sald Mr. Reynolds, had been made for the building for a Blaine Woashburne meeting, and it was refused.’ “ But the Grant men clalin the right to uso it by virtne of ‘its _belng in_the euste ft heir section of the National Committee “They may make such a elntin, but the stockholders here have rights whieh we pro- puse to nuintala. The building was let foro deflult purpose, that of holding a National Convention, to which ntimisston should only be secured by tleket, We hind a year ago a Socialist demonstration {n the building, aud we do notagain want a howling, rushing mob pouring in orout, We gave tic use of the tildlug for ne such purpuse,” “Cameron says unphatically that the meet- ing will be held.” "He may say so, but he'll. find he can't, and that’s the end of if It isn’t in the con- tract,”? And Mr, Reynolds exhibited the following memorandum of agreements Tho Inter-State and Industrial Exposition Compuny of Chicago have und do bereby ugreo to let the building of said Company for tho pur- pose of the Republican Nation! Convention, to eheld the first week in June, 1880, upon the following terms and conditions: | (1) Thattho Committee in ehargo shall be to oll expense to put iu the senting, platform, and other conveniences for the Convention. «) ‘To pay the extra insuranve by reason of Buch occupancy, which is ulready pufd. @} To remove the limber und seating within a Stantinily good order, ) To do all necessary shoring under tho fluor. (8) To furnish watchmen duy and night to Buurd the snine. 6. ‘To furnish tho policomen, doorkeepers, and ushers necessary. 7. Totemove and replace in good order, waen wanted by suid Company, the buaths and stands. 4% That nouxpenss sbull attach to sild Com- puny by reason of the occupancy nforoguid, Agreed this “ith duy of Muay, 1830, e Jesse SpaLurno, Chairman, i doun P, REYNOLDS, * _Bee'y of I. 8. & Ind. Exposition. Approved: James P. Root, ~For Committee of Republican Convention, Subsequently Don Cameron, Logan, and a few others in the Interest of the third tern, exiled upon President Asay, of the Expo- sition, He iufarmed them that his Ex- geutlve Comunlttes lid decided that the building could not be used for any political demonstration in fayor of any candidate, The opponents of Grant had previously asked tor the tse of the building for a public ineeting, Which had been denled, and, sinee & refusal had heen given on one side, It woul be wifalr, in tho opiuion of the Comittee, to graut the use of tho building fore shuitar purpose to Mr. Grant's friends, Some hot words were exchanged tn private over the matter, but, ns far as could be lear to ne avail; and, if Mr, Grant's friends hold a meeting, {t will not be In the Exposition Bullding. 5 In tho afternoon the local Grant man: agers held a conference in“ Long" Jones rouin on the subject of inaking othor ar rangements, but nu declsion was reached. ANTI-GRANT. MASSMEETING MONDAY AT THE MATL PARE, The onti-third-term men of Chicago, or rather a number of the more prominent ones, met in the club-room at the Sherman House yesterday afternoon for the purpose of mak: Ing arrangementsfor amass-uceting, Among the fifty present were Gen, Bates, Murry Nelson, R. P. Derlekson, 8. M. Booth, D. W. Rawleigh, Col A. N. Waterman, Seth Ikanchett, Jolin G, Shortall, Washington Heslng, E. F. Cragin, William Floto, C. A. Gregory, W. HL King, George M, How, Sf. A. Farwoll, George Bass, A. A. Sprague, Com- infssfonor Stewart, Gen. Bates was chosen Chairman and Sam uel Appleton Secretary. The Committee appoluted to sea about tt, reported that the Grant men could not get the Exposition Building,—that President Asay said It shoull not be used by wny fou- tion, [Applause.s Mr, Patterson sald the iden was to secure the base-ball park, where several thousand could be seated, aid to have eminont inen fur spenkers, Ho had the refusal of tho grounds ior Monday and ‘Tuesday nights. Mr, Scudder spoke tn fayor of the propost- tion. - Some talk took place as to the character of the mecting,—whether it should be antl Sas or siuply political. = Te upon the delegates that I Inols was In carnest: regurdlng the wrong inilicted upon her people by the machine, If thoy succeeded In get- Ung in the tarenity cleleeitos, the anti-tuird- term inen would be suecessful, Mr, Bodth sald the shuple question was, Should the majority rule, fit didn’t, he had no desire to belong to tho Republican nuety. w Kivi Tlawes sald that the Music-Iall ioot- dng lad had p A WONDERFUL R¥FECT. No one had any idea of the talk Ithad caused, Tle hud seen some of the Southern delegutes, who sald they had had no idea that there wits any such opposition to Gen. Grant thoy didn’t want to force him on the North, since the South could do nothing to ele him. ‘The fdes wos galuing ground that -h.- could not be elected, and the agitation ough: to bu kopt up. 5 Mr, Crog{n offered the following, which was udopted: Wireneas, Thousands of our follow-uitizous ‘wery unable ta join with us tn our protest Wodnesduy night, and as other oountios in the Stuty wish to jon with Cook in a protest thut willbo beard by the deleyates to the Nutioual Convention: therefure Rewlved, Thnt the Republican oltizens of Ill. nols who fyel that they have boon chuuted and robbed of thelr rights, and citizen’ of othor Btates who sytnpathize with them, be Javited w foln in 4 mass-ucoting Monday night ‘thst stalk show the Kopublicans of other Stutes the dangee (Continued on the Siz Pace.) Jackson, Kirk Hawes, E. G, Mason, ex-Alut.* agin suld the Idea was to impress’ Teasunuble time, nnd leave the bullding In sud-