Chicago Daily Tribune Newspaper, May 23, 1874, Page 1

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TRY ALL OTHERS, THEN SR THE PHILADELPEIIA L adyou il Ly it, W) nd rofall, 1) 6, L1E0- LGN, Generni o 40 Hia la-ut, Ghfceer, e b A linows ko aug s} 5o, the ** Excolslo " ot Prloo rirduced from 836 to 618, Sund for Ostaloque T WROUGHT-IRON PIZE, Steam Warming Apparatus, MANUFAOTURED BY CRANH BROS. MANUFAOTURING 00. No. 10 North Jefferson-st. TO RENT, LUMBER OR COAL DOCK '0 RENT OR FOR SALH. 180 fenf front g‘n Twelfth-st,, running back to the Zimpire i with railroad ~ coonegtions, near e ot bridne. Anpie G o B! FELE, 108 Washiogton-ot, Hasemont, E e Will Remain PROF. SWING. He Returned to the City Yesterday Evening. And Was at the Meeting at the Fourth Church, - Presbyterianism and Swing. But the Majority Prefer the Tatter if They Cannot Have Both. the Lawless Minister of a Presbyterian Congregation, How It Was the Withdrawal ‘Was Not Withdrawn, Interviews with the Elders of the Church. Prof. Patton and DMr. Forsyihe Speak in Reference to the Appeal to the Synod. Desire of the Methodists, Eto, to @et Prof. Swing, A Suggestion that He Shall Preach In thie First Church. 3 ' Newspaper Commonts. At the dlose of tho article relative to Prof. Swing's withdrawal from ,tho Presbytorian Church, publishod yostordey snorning, it wos stated that Lo of the members of his church bad telographiod him o last ‘q{ynnl, bogging him | to withdraw his withdrawal, at'loaat: until they could see and renson with him., The npewer to this dispatch, which camo too late for publica- tion, wus that he put himeclf in thoir bhands, which was practically equivalent to reconsider- -ing Lis determination for tho moment. Comiug 80 lato, however, and at a timo whon it was im- possible to avoid publicity, tho geutlemen who roceived the dispntch decided to suppressit, thinking it would do Prof. Bwing no good. Hence the unwillingness of any ono to admit that any such dispatch had been received. In order to soo what tho fosling was yostorday, after peoplo bad had time to rofiect, and tho shock of the surprige wns over, a roportor was directed to sce somo of the Lldorsof the Fourth || Church on ono side, and somo of Mr. Bwing's opponents on the other, to seo what they hud to any on the subject. Tho Elders wore roticeut, however, not wishing to ssy snything which might anticipate the action of tho chureh moot- ing held last night. The action of the Elders and Trusteos, reported below, restores the sit- untion, g0 far a8 Prof. Bwing is concorned, to that left in the dispatches printod yostordsy. e THE INTERVIEWS. The firat gentlomau ealled upon was Mr. H. W. King, with whom' tho roportor had tho fol- lowing conversation : Reportor—I undorstaud Prof, Swing las re- congidered his determination to withdraw # Mr, King—Ho has not to my knowledge. Roporter—Havo you had any communication from hum ? : Mr., King—No. Reporter—Then the sumor that a dispateh was roceived last night authcrizing the Elders of the Fourth Church to withdraw bis card lns no foundation ? Mr. King—X think not, Itis poassible that some one mu{ have recoived somothing of the kind, but nothing hes beon rocoived by us as n #session, or by wo as en individual, Qteportor—In cnse Lo adhoros to hiaresolution, will the Fourth Church go with him? Mr. King—Tho congregation is very much at- tached to Mr, Bwing, and their inolination would be to go wheravor ho leads; but thore has boen no formal conmdoration of tho subjoct, and the nows of his withdrawnl has come upon us liko o olapp of (hunder in a clear sky. Rodorter—Was it not anticipatod ? Mr. King—No. It s dono, 8o far as I kuow, without any cousultution with the Eldersbip, or with bis friends, Roporter—iad he not intimated, provious to tho heresy trial, an iutontion of leaving the Church to avoid becoming iuvolved in & thoolog- ical war? . Mr, King—Yon, He said ho did not want to fight for a yenr; but his vindication was so triumphunt that I think it very doubtful it the case would have gone any furihor., I bolieve an sccommodation could have beon had between Prof, Patton and him., TReporter—Do you mean that thoy would bave como to some agreoment, nud that the contro- vorsy would have ouded there ? Mr, King—Yes, I foel that Mr, Bwing onght not to Lavo withdrawn withont first advising with bis Eiders and friends, and think it wus due to them that thoy should bave beon advised before the general publio that he Lad takdh such o step, Reporter—Ilave you any hopo that ho will roconeldor hi determination ? " Alr, King—I have. Ihopo he will dofor any action 1n the matter, and that ho may yet soo that tho bost place for him ia within the I'rosby~ torlau Church, and in connection with the Pres- bytery and ministors who have vindicatod himso nobly. ltl?mrum—no 18 o vory ‘sonsitive man, is ho n 0! Mr. King—Yos, and is aversarto quarrels and difterences, and would make any saoritlos rathor than live in war, while Mr, Pattonand Lis school generally have their war-paiut on, > Reportor—WWhen is he oxpocted homo ? Mr, King—To-night (Frdey) or to-morrow (Bnturday) morning, v Roporter—Will the secssion of tho Fourth Church meot to consider hls withdrawal card? Mr. King—Tho rogular seasion meoting will ho held Saturday night. .’t'lio matter will come before them, and %t will probably be . sottlod thion whether hoe will withdraw, and, if he doos, whothor the church will take passsgo in the sane boat. H MR HUBLBUT, NMr, H, A, Hurlbut, Elder of the ‘lanih Pres- byterian Church, was welted upon by a Luivuns reporter, yeatorday atternoon, in reforeuce to tho withdrawal of Y'rof, H\viuf. ¢ Reportor—Has {nur church had any provious Intimation of the Intoution of Mr, Awiug? Mr, Huzlbut—None thatIam aware of. In fact, the mattor bay como up very suddenly, and quite unexpectodly,sn the light of the xoe oou aotion of the Ohlcnmil Dronbytory. « They Want to Keep Both | ‘| Reportor—What do #aduced the Professor «dispatch ? M, Hurlbut—Mr., Bwln? is n man who hates notorioty, His posltion forced him into it; [ think he istirod of the dotraction which polomi- cal warfaro brings, and would wish to retiro to & 4 quit sphiero of action, Reporter—Is tho sontimont of hfs own church strongly with the Professor ? Mr. Iurlbut—Vory much so, Indoed. Ifis congrogation havo s gront xospect for Mr. Swing, Now, that four-fifths of tho Presbytory have doolarod Lim not guilty of Liorosy, I thiuk that rogard is materially strengihenod, doubt, if tho Professor inslsts upon withdrawal, Lo will givo his roasons, and, if they meot tho gonoral gontimont. 1 boliove that n vory lurgo numbor of his qlcupla will bo with him, I think, howevor, that his loaving his miselon at this particular timo is rathor hasty, unless, as I havo beforo snid, ho felt tired of_the long continued quarrel. In any casoe, the Fourth Church knowe nothing of tho matter, excopt through the press, but & business moeting will soou bo called, ab whioh futute polioy will, porhaps, bo dotermined. MR, LEE, Mr. O, H. Loo, another Eldor of the Fourth Churely, wau also callod upon, but ho utterly ro- fused t0 hovo anything to say on tho subjoot, becauso Lo had noc thought over it, aud, ne an E1* der, know nothing whatoyer of Mr. Bwing's fu- turo intentions, All he kuew about the afalr way already known to the public. Mt NOYES. Tho Rev. G. O, Noyes, who defended Prof. Swing during tho lato trial, was also inter- viewed, Reporter~What do you think of Mr. Bwing's withdrawal? DIr. Noyes—I think it was most unwiso undor tho circumstoncos. Tlero was no roason for such a step,—uo nocessity, Ttoporter—Do you suppose any influenco was bmggng to boar on tho Profossor by outsido partios Mr. Nnfina—l havo no ronson to mupposo so. He must iave conceived tho idea bimself on ac- count of hiu chronfo disliko to any kind of noto- ricly. His lep wil, T feary It posited iy bo disastrous to the Fourth Churcl,aud to the entive Presbyterian communion, No mnn could have had a'strongor indorsomont of his position, I think ho was driven to it by the appeal to tha Bynod. ITo i3 really tired of all tho talk about Diim, and all that tho nowspapors publish rolative to tho controveray. & TReporter—Don't you think thst the Profossor will got sympathy and aid from. his flock it ho withidraws 7~ Thoy will consider Lim driven to that course by persocution ? Mr, Noyos—1 think that tho overwholming mejority of hia congregation will condemn tho utep. 1¥o ehiould linve romemborod his friends, “Whoy stood by bitn through overything, and tho Prosbytery vindicated hiu toachings, Teporter—Then you thiuk that, out of con- sidoration for his friends and for the Presbytery, Trof. Bwing should have niaintained his ground? Mr. Noyos—I certainly do, and, abovo ail, for tho sako of the Church, - He should have braved tho worst—darod tho worst. Ttoportor—Well, ns you say, he dlalikes notordety, and muat bo judged iu that hght, 3Ir. Noyos—That is "all vory well, but his frionds may boled to regard the act in abther light, nlthongh I beliove ke acted only with the purest motives. TROF. PATTON. As o matter of courso, tho roporter calledupon tho prosecutor, with whom ho had the following convorsation : Toportor—What do you think of Prof. Bwing's withdrawal ? p Prof, Patton—It is o surprise, Roportor—Had you no intimation of it ? Prof. Patton—No moro than the surmises that havo boen exprossed from time to time, I bad 1o diroct intimation, TReporter—Do yon think that was the proper courao for him to take ? Prof. Patton—That is a quostion I canuot an- swor ; it is for his consciouce to settla, Roportor—Wall, in.view of tho doctrines which you beliove hioteacnes, ean he cousistontly ro- main in tho Prosbyterian Church ? Prof. Patton—2MMy opinion is that he eannot, _Roporter—What donomination would accept im Prof. Patton—The Congrogationnlists, I think, Roportor—What offact will his withdrawnl bave upon'tho Presbytorian Charoh in Chi- cago? Prof. Patton—T¢ is very hard to m{y. X do not Lnow; but do not think the Proubytorian Chureh will be affocted beyond the bounds of the Tourth Church. Roportor—Would nob the defection of that Church be auite o blow to tho denomlination # Drof. Patton—Yes; it wonld be unfortunato. Teportor—Is it rue that you have thought of not prosecutiug the appeal 7 Drof. Patton—No, Roporter—Do you intond to impeach tho Pres- bytory? Prof. Patton—No. I simply appeal from their decision, which I think is wrong, to gob the judgmont of n higher court—the Synod, Tteportor—What steps will you take to got that Judgment ? Prof, Patton-~Tho rocords of the trinl befare thio Presbytory go up to_tho Synod, and consti- tute the matter upon which that body acts; und, in viow of my ronsons and thd argumont 1 shall muke, the Synod will sny whethor tho Presby- tory did right or wrong, 1t may sustain tho ap- posl, or not, or sustain it in part. Reportor—There will be morely arguments before the Synod ? Prof. Patton—That §s all ; no now testimony will be offered ; only that which is in the record. Reportor—If tho Synod should sustnln the fiuding of the Presbytery, will you carty the case to tho General Assembly P ; Prof, Patton—That i8 my prosent determina~ tion, " . Roporter—Would Prof. Bwing bo represented in the Synod ? Prof, Patton—No. 1o Is not a party now. Tho Prosbytery and mysolf are the partics con- corned, aud it would bo representod. Toportor—Supposoe the Synod reversed the de- cision of tho Presbytery, wint would ensua ? T'rof. Palton—It would be for tho Presbytery to uay whether tho mattor should bo carried to tho General Assombly. Itwould be the appelleo thon. TRoportor—But if thoy did not appoal? Prot. Patton—The case would rest; and thelr douision stand reversod. Roporter—Would anothor trial follow ? Prof. Patton—No. It would simply be the Judgment of tho Synod that, in acquitting Irof. Hwing, tho Prosbytory dld wrong. Roporter—If Prof, Swing weto nol_ within the palo of the Oburoh nothing more could be done ? Prof, Patton—No. Reporter—Bhould Lio romain and the judgmont bo reversed, what would tuke place ? Lrof. I‘nt‘on—-\\'nll_. tho Bglmd might remand tho case for a new trial, or thoy might issue tho caso thumeolven and prouounce judgmont if thoy concludod that the ovidouce sustained the chargoe, Teporter—Will you tell me the gronnds upon whiok you bage the appeal # Prof. Patton—My tmain roason is that I think tho cllv.rflau wero proven. I think tho ovidonce sustainod tho churgoes, and that the Frosbytory oughit to have ko found. Theu thore are rulings of the Modoiator during the course of tho trial which I objeot to. Roporter—Are you putting your reasons in proper form now ¢ L'rof. Istton—No, Ihavenot touched them yot. I am not obliged to prosont them untilten days after next Mouday. Ttoporler—I undoratand that Prof. Bwing han authorized tho withdrawal of hiscard ? "What do you think of that ? Prof. Pattou—I have no oplulon, teportor—Thint was unexpected ? Prof, Prtton—Cortainly. JOUN FONSVTHE, Noxt camo Joln Farsythe, Lsa., with whom there wau the following colloguy : Roporter—IHow does the withdrawal of Prof. Swing strike you ? Mr. Forsytho—I do not know what to melie of it, L was inclined to think that ho intowlod lo leaya tho Presbyterian Church,{and Liave thought #o for gome tima. Roporter—¥hat inducod you to think so ? Dr, Forsytho—The artiolos in the city papors, whiol seoniad to be publishod by suthofity, nat: Ing that Lo wan proparing a lotfer to senid in to the Prosbytory; and from lutiniutions of suiuo of Dis friends that thoy thought he would profor leu\'lnfl the Churoh to standiog whal they con- widored persecution, Reportor—1iuve you heard anytbing sbout his authoriziug tho sussion of the Fourth Chuteh to withdraw his card ? B i Mr. Forsytho—I have not, Reoporter—Do you think, having made up his mind to withdraw, that be would reconsider bl determination ? Mr, Forsytho—Frof. 8wing s & men who, ) gnu supposs can have | whon ko makes up bis mind to do A thing, can- 0 publish, or write, that | not bo induced to ohango his decision without gront dificulty; though 1 think he would do much to oblige hia frionds. Roportor—Will not his withdrawal eripplo the donomination in Chicago? Mr. Forsythe—I do not think it would, Reportor—Will it not wenkon ity influence—ho boing a represontative man ? M, Forsytho—It might to some oxtont, be- caune lis is o very popular prenchor, and his go- ing ight _induce many to follow him, That, howaver, I can only conjecture. Roporter—Docs “Prof, Patton ocontemplato prousing tho apponl ? Br., Forsytho—That was his intention yester- dny, I have not seen Lim tn-d?. My opluion is that tho withdrawal of Prof. 8wing ‘docs not do wray with the nocousity for proscouting tho appaal. Roporter—Tha couse of the controversy hav- Ing baon resumed, why should ho tako tlio case to the Bynod ? Mr, Forsytho—Ifo Lakes the case up, to have tho ducision of the Presbytery rovorsod, It is not o porsonal issue, but one invelving the doc- trines of tho Prosbylorinn Clurch, sllu[&n?flbr—-\vhnt Pronbytorios constituto the ynot Mr. Foraytbo—There are thros Synods {n Tili- nofs—North, Contral, and South. Tho appeat would be tricd by the Synod of Illiuois North, na it ia tochnically callod,” It includes all tho notthern part of tho Stato, tho southern bound- arlon bolug the countios of Kankakeo, Grundg, Lagnlle, Y'utuam, Burosu, Honry, oud Mercer, oxtonding to tho Siwissippl. ~Triero aro throd Prosbyteries within tho limils of the Bynod— the Chicago, Rock Rivor, and Ottawa, Reporter—Then the 8ynod is composed princi- pally of country miuistors? Mr. Forsytho—Yes. Roportor—And thoy genorally adliore moro clogely to the doctrinos of the ‘Church as lnid down in tho Coufession of Faith than the city ministers? Mr. Forsythe—Than somo city ministors, Roporter—1'hoy would not bo likely to sustain the judgmont of the Presbytory? Nr. Forsythe—If I should expross an opinion it wonld bo that, in all probability, thoy will ro- verso tlio decision of the iuferior judicntory. xlle?pom:_suould thoy do €0, What would ro- sult Mr, Forsytho—That would be determined by tho Presbytory. Reportor—Supposs tho cane {8 Leard by the Synod, who do you thiuk would represont tho Presbytery ? Mr, Forsytho—I undorstand thers has beon somo taik of sonding Dr. R. W. Patterson, but that basnot been settled yot. Prof. Patton would sppear in person ag prosocutor. Reporter—Ylat action can the Synod tako in tho promisea ? Mr., Forsytho—I will read you the law from the Book of Dikcipline, Iore it is. *The de- cision may bo sithor to confirm or roverse, in whole or in part, tho declslon. of tho inferior Judicatory, or to romit tho caso for the purposo of amending tho rocord, should it appear to bo incorrect or dofective, or for a mow trial.”” That ruls applies alo to the Gonoral Assembly, TRoporter—After reaching & docision, what would be dono ? Mr. Forsytho—Wall, if they roversed tho judgment and an appel wero not teken, they inightsond tho cnga back to the Presbytery, with ingtructions to give a vordtet in nccordance with thoir (the Synod's) fiuding,—to pronounco him guilty, and censure or eapsl him,—to imposo such a sontenco s the olfense warranted in its opinion, or they might require a disavowal. €, 1. M'CORMICK. Mr. Cyrus H. McCormiok, a prominent mem- ber of the Presbytorian communion, was sskod Lis opinion on_tho case, gonerally, but statod g 29 :[UMBER 273, ' ASHINGTOIL o £ X v Tho Senate%as a Night Sesslon on the”" ivil Rights Bill The Final Vote Not Reached et Latest Advices. @ov. Shepherd Again Boefore the Distriot Oommitteos He Fails to Disprove the Iiamnulnn Testimony. The Ways and Means Committee CDl:l- clude to Discharge Prescott. Prominont Xems in the Amendatory Tariff Bill. THE DISTRICT INVESTIGATION. Spectal Disputeh to The Chicago Tribunc, TIE COMMITTEE NOT YET NEAR TIE END, ‘WasiiNaroy, D. 0., May 22.—Appearances now indicate thut the District Investigating Commiltes will not boable to closo their doors upon tho rocoipt of testimony bofore the middle of next weeli, On ench succecding day some Litherto unhoard-of witness turns up and asks pormiesion to telt what he knows about Districh affairs, or some friond of tho momorialists gives information which loads to the summoning of men bolieved to bo in posaession of important facts bearing upon the onse. The greator part of to-duy’s csuion wne dovoted to hoaring tho evidonco of witnesses roported . to be koowing of instances whore contracts hed been hawked about the streets by middle. men during tho glorious days when Obittendon, the Rov. Calvin Brown, and Kirtland made Weshington tho scoue of thoir peculiar opera~ tions. v TOW QONTRACT-BROKERAGE FLOUBISHED. 1t was shown conclusively thata lurge businoss in contract-brokerago was carried on, and the profits divided among Governmont ofifcials and Invoritos of the Districtoficers, Ono contractor told the Committeo of some paving contracts which lio obtained through dealors in thouo nrtis cles of trade, for which Lo paid 20 cents a yard. Mr. Arthur Bhepherd declared upon his oath tbat ha nover shared in the §2,600 obtained by Seitz & Kolly from Taytor & Filbert, on tha Sixteonth stroel contract. Ho explaived that bis part in that transaction was simply to aid them to procure a purchasor for the contract, | XKelly corroborated Mr. Shopherd's statomenta, CLUSS OROSS-EXAMINED. 5 It being ubderstood that tho cross-oxamine ation of Engincor Cluss would bo commencad at 2 o'clock, ngroat arowd tool possossion of tho committée-raom, flling it to oxcess, Tho wit- that, 08 ho had no connaction with' tho Fourth Ghutoh, ho did ot givo the subject very muoh attention, lthough Lo was, of course intorosted. Ho thought Prof. Bwiugs withdrawal rathor singuler, considering ‘that ho Lad beon no- Quittod. —_— THE CHURCH MEERTING. An informal meeting of tho Trustces and Elders of tho Fourth Prosbytorisn (8wing's) Chureh, was held in the pastor's study last ovoning. Elder 0. H. Leo *“prosided,” and thiero wero prosont Mesers, Bpringor, Hurlbut, Reith, Ewing, Waite, 0. B. King, Muliiken, Adnms, Page, snd Peuce. TOW IT LEAKED OUT. The session was secrot, and, 18 no announce- ment of it had beon given, the result would probably not have been known but for an ncol- dent, "he study is in tho brsemont of tho ohureh, aud fronts Outario streot. Tho window- pancs ars of stuivod glass, but the mash aro Ioose, and n porson standing ou tho outside can hear all that s enid within. TUE CONVERSATION was directed mainly to two points, First, “If we can persuade Prof, Swing to romain with us, can wo cousistently employ him and bave unitod church? ¥ Bccond, “If he will not re- main in the Presbyterian Cliurch will wo go with him into Congregationalism? " BENTIMENTS OF THE ELDERS. One Tlder objocted to exprossing o fual devision before Lo consulted liis wifo, n8 ho did not know what sho would do, + Another said that botwoen Preabyterlanism, as taught by Prof, Patton, sud Oongrogationalism, ho preferred tho latter, sinco it would be usoless to romsin in the former denomiuation without Y'rot. Swing, A third iuquirod, if it woy decided to establish nn independent church, whether Lhe money could borraised $a build o church, T'o this general assont was givon. KEEP BWING AND STILL BE PRESDYTERIAKS, A fourth thought they could employ Prof, Swing nud remain Presbytorinns, 1f ho wns nob rotnivod, the church would be divided, und be- como nscless, I Lis services could bo sacured, on uuy terims, the congregation would be unitod. A AITth vaid bé loved the Prosbyterisu Church, but would not remaln in it if Prof. Swing loft, They shoutd stand togothor sy Presbyterians if possible ; otliorwise, as Congrogatiounlisty, PHOY, BWING. At this momont Prof. Bwing, who had returned from Oxford, O., on tho ovoning train, ontored tho roomy, nud was rocoived vitii tho clapping of bands, nud othor sigas of dovotion, Prof, Swing romarked that the controversy might lnst three or four years 1f ho remained in tho Presbytery, Touco bo hud concluded to withdraw, und to becomo a Congrogationslist. hlAll Elder thought tho Synod would acquit m. Trof, Swing enid he could not stand war, A Trusteo told him what tho Session had been doiug,—discussing what should bo dono to kave tho chureh and 1fs usotulness, If he (Swing) would romain, and nob compel s severince of the church and its destruction, overything would run alorg smoothly. Anotber said they would ho nomiunlly a Pros- bytorian church, ond the_contributions, as ho- fors, would bo sent to the differont Presbyteriun Boards. L'rof. Bwing rejoined that the Chicago Prosby~ tery was almos: unnuimously in lus avor, yet the romnindor could nnnoy thom s & churel, Fomo one said that ho was in favor of lotting the controvorsy Tun its courso, and seo what camo of it. 1f Patton prevalled, he would go to Cougrogationalism lnmvlm\su]; but it Dr. Tatterson came out alioad, he would continuo n Dresbytoriau. TRISDITERIAN AND CONGREGATIONAL. Auothior thonght thoy should stand by tho men who hed stood so nobly by the IFouith Churel. If Vatton came out nhoad, ho would favor forming an alllunce with the Oongragu- tionnliate, and continue Prof. Hwing 18 pastor, Jetting tho Fonrth Churels bo nowinally & Pros- byterian chuyeh in good and regular stauding, and going on with thie work just an heretofors, An Eldor romnrked that throo-fourths of the Ciareh wounid indorso that. Another, addressing himeclf to Prof, Swing, aaid the Fourth Church would remain Prosbyte- rlan it it could rotain itw pastor; if nor, thoy would go with him into Congrogutionnlism, Prot°Swinyg answerod (hat o would rewsin " C»ugmgnlzuuu minieter, [Applauno.] TILE REPONTERN, Ono wonk volee inquired: **How about the roportere? Thoy will iterviow you,” " One londor iu tone augwered: *'Isll them that tho Fourth Uhurch Ymnm«mm bo & £rosbyterian Ohureh, and rotain Prof, b‘\rln{r A U8 pastor, sid to stand by the Prosbysory vihich stood by us, Do nat suy unything mors,” . ‘An Eldor—* L would,” tiome Ono—*" What i e Bldor—+* Qood bya," [Laughter] ‘'ho talk ussumed muother nliape nfter it was agread that Prof. Bwing's withdrawal could not nocessnrily affoct bls rolations witly tho Fourths (Bo0 Twolfih Pager) nous putin an n%x:em\ucu o fow minutes beforo tho hour sob for his examination, aud brought with bim agroat mass of documents and papers. Gov. Shepherd was nlso carly on tho ground and, as an ovidence of his intention to smash Cluss, camo backed by a 1 counsel, and an immonsn quantity of papers, vouchors, ropotts, conlracts, and othor Board of Public Works fnachinory. 'In addition to his threo rogular counsel, Mattingley, Harrington, and Btanton, the Governor had with him the Hon, Joremiah§, Black, soln O, Evans, Lewia Clephane, and Engincer Samp, togother with tvo or throo unknowns, whose business seemed to be to giggle and laugh at corlain periods on pre- concerted signals belog givo out. NMr. Metting- ley conducted the cross-exumination, assisted by Judge Black and the Governor, TUE WITNESS MAISTAINED IS POSITION quite successfully during the first hour of the oxamination, snd, in fact, did remarknbly well throughout the afternoon. Tho impression formed in the mind of the impartial witnoes was that the Governor and Lis counsel failed in thoix efforts to smash tho witness, as thoy horalded thair intention of doing, While they succeeded in twisting his testimony upon somo points, it was roally duo to tho fact that his imporfect knowlodge of Inglish at timos fpreventad him from convoying his renl moaning. Mr. Oluss improsses pooplo with the belief that he is & man whose irapulges are to tell the whola truth about mattors connestod with the Board of Public Works, but whose lack of abile ity to exprees himself m English bas lod him into making somo statements of an erronsous oharactor, y WIIAT I8 THOUGNT OF OLUSS. A promiuent lawyer of this city vays of Cluss = 4 Ho shows that he has suffored from the intol- erans control which Shephord assumes over overyono with whom Le comes in contact, and that” he has, without o doubt, beon forced by Shepherd's very mauner, at times, to sign doco~ ments which he wholly disapproved, but gave way as others havo done."” Cluss soems casily to bo provoked to anger and, whon badgored by tho lawyers, who twist and intentionully misinterpret “his answers im brokon English, he loses his tompor, and de- flantly males assertions that his cooler antagon- ists forco him to amond or qualify, when ko is brought to rocollect that he is undor oath. The cross-oxamination will be continued to-morrow, and may probably not be concluded boforo Mon« day night. (7o the Asseciated Pres.) WasmiNoton, D. C., May 22—The Districl Investigating Committee oxnmined soveral wit- notyos to day. TREASURER MAGRUDER was callod with reforence to his systom of locp- ing nccounts, His explunations wero not satis« factory, and he was given furthor timo to con- sult the vouchons in his oftice, P, W, RINEIART, formor Chief Olork of ths Lower Houss of tha District Legislaturo, tostified that D. O. Fornoy, who vas interented with him in a contract, pmd 8. P. Brown, who was at tho time o member of the Board of Publio Works, money which was understood to have boon given for Brown’s in- flueuce in putting the contract through tha, Loard ; also, that the contract provided that the lumber required should be purohused from a eon of B, P. Brown at a rato in advauco of the market. 1 A contractor named YOLLANSDEE testiflad that a clork in Mullott's ofiios in tha ‘'ronsury Dapartment, named Horaco 8. Jacobs, wna futorested with bim in contracts, Arthur Bhepherd tostificd that Lo nover receivod any monoy on account of contracts. In L{m alternoon ADOLF CLUSS, onginaer and mombor of the Board, was sharply oronn-examined by Mattingly. Ho was forcod to admit his signature to monoy doocuments which. in his provious testimony he had donied signing. He said the Board would murder tho roputation of ongiucors s wmuch as Blucbenrd had his wiven, Ile signed many of the tables in tho re< ort of tho Board for 1878 moroe for official cour« osy than anything olse, When tho Governor'a nagwer was given him to sign, the same bofug propared for the Iuvostigution Committes, ho ra« Tusod to sigu_ it, and it wag sont Lo the Commits tee without his slgunture, 1o smd many paport woro brought to Ll in au off-hand way, and he signed them ay_brought to him, a8 a maro ofile vor’s routine, 1le kinew that the main uc\rnmro systom did nol cost as much altogother as the amount askod to be paid on this sccount by the United Statos, All that Lo testifled to in bis dis rect examination ho meant iu tho spirit, if not in words; the giut of what ho sald was truo, Ho thought the system of tho Board with referonco to kaoning accounts way #o complicnted that no iraet rosponoibility could be put on uny ono. Ho wigued vouckors also nu i mero olorloal routine. 1fo was asked a direct question it ho know of any orruption or fraud on the part of tho Board of Publio Worts, to which ho replied that he knew of no fraud, but he did know {‘lwro ‘was gross noglec Cluss will bo 1 alled to-morrow, THE TARIFF BILL, WaanixaTox, D, C., May 23.—I'he Amendatory Tarilf billnow before the Committes on Ways and Means will probably bo completed to.mop (Ses Bovontk Puge} arge array of - LT cacan