Chicago Daily Tribune Newspaper, May 6, 1874, Page 2

) o 53 kol By o GO b ordah] it | =ikl thord vwam it & Il enai thd oh $8tlootlon, that td7 F855Hactlon 1n cleak I cBh | A3ido Bitne thikt whro nob Likbired: but _that b | Brdsd angthing which 168 7ot bo ilhn hadld nbt | @, PROF. SWING. b;): it T i, s aokfbont. :;3&; vl o .o':’?: His, l;f;;l:;:o{";g%%flfl fid'-'v"i‘u&‘"f,'fi% ffli}bl‘ij&:gol ihs cf,;%a‘.;m;\sm galé gsum &&e Azc'l' ‘bhyu Tl limfl}t"xfié Biohllahaty i fio’u’f&‘l“fii‘é}“%fi‘&&fi"x’é’lfl?? it is - S of i -2 i, ] {1 !l i ¥ = T . bty el 8oy whioh i IR - o S . ST e | v Iiélrg»réflsafl i uprinted ormof YhiE ‘g#ltflkf TR0 It oriplial uathy and rord WENE | KRt s paenomibisnY Ol lalley o Trom fo sl oo of duty to nosioty e, El‘)‘ anld the tostimony shiould be admittod ?onmm of shorthand mporu:f nd adid th vinlty 6f Christ, o 18 the torm '* aclacticism,"~tho Halootl. | and I nover hoard any sermon thAb sbomed to 2 a g inintor, and d me to como more noarly to the Now Toatament :l:r;!‘::h:: th:yn::l.)::‘;.fl " {E;;h{gg““us Hslt basls; but I could mes how anybody who hnda | ~ Q —Ts {t not prop thai thy \'olfld bg con. pudulinr thispht about preashing, vonld miss | 35T a dlviao enflT? —Whon 1 ag enm somo aort of quostion, becauss ho (Swing) was | my own profession, I Tojiowbd A acguing under i to got af tho radical Wanin of | Colval 1o bo s covloliond. of fly Ly, o ] Prenbylory noed not pay walods. 1t HleAsed to 40 a0, With this undorsianding, the rosolution was adopted, - A phonographer was thoreupon afbm to tako corroot minutoes of tho proceedings, . ‘Eldor Willinm dosizod loavo of . Aumihbe fof tho remalndor of tho dn{. 1t wag grantod with- BUE projudies t8 i ght ta vora, By tho Rev, Mr. Ui8H Wood—Q.—Ts It moant by tho divinity'of Cbrist, tho deity of Ohriat? 4% atinll not quarre) abont thoss wyords, Mr, Glen Wood—I aaked this rsunuon L1 oxtod (ickn wofdd BAf5 ‘Disit astid & poinb 1A ), cilt bf heo, of applioation, not in rogard totho infi:lrnunn. =111 FUBAT tg tHAY PAFL OF h8 OIQ THRtR: uxlt "hml sponks of the dostruction of the dxtticn tintionn, did ho say that ho thought that waa somothing worse than the crusltios praoticod and taken for what § orth, tho Sokonntue fias peny, T worlh, Lo Jury 1o 'Tho Modorator did not consider tho Presby- :l‘!:;‘!' tl:mmfl to follow tho analogy of the clvil Second Day of the Trial. The Proseoutor Renews His e e SR oo s human socioty ; but it did not so appesr to mo, By Mr. Wakeman—Q:—\Was 1t DIIEUTING 7O TRYE AMIAMOR, nedi—t tndatstand that Prof. Bwing be- [ Ly th —1 | and I do not i s 1t not the {deq and & o (Thi Tox. Bir. Watker s tho roposiion pro: | Upun b auenlon o s gonioiad, appiiatten, | uortlTa e el oF G ok ndl}!fl&fi% gi’ ik I:i‘s‘h?“f{i,{figfil{a P Hoa g,.,lk ook do not aflare,, dd to any otbor intell | that ench opo elould, deolds the, matior sa 4 Deindnd for & Uon- oead by i, Novos would praludioo the,easo of | Mr, Eif ionght It of tho highodt importénts | dodlion JF I ir Kb ubed B ward - aimoity 1a | £35 ellect okt ant i Eiprdssed biniael s slig— 0ty 5855 16 18 | ° Dy . Maihowa—G.—\What did Erof, i . i dooused Gofors the gehoral ommunity. Ho | the mombors shauhd bo prodent wad pariepato | Motlukgattta, 00 o Forked 18t mriohiory piblindin' ey MAL | o offorkof tho vfsxgite 1 show whr God | acoording bo your approhousion, Lo i i tinuanee, CEREAREM Said I, woihd v o b ofsch, | . Prkloshon il 1 wh wt s uvoidatlo [ ot o tha paluis of dooivias D i o uke g polnt? AT understood him to say that evo; Q.—1It s bodn thought by some that to opon ‘ = the BIBIS atid find a certal; {uxe 88 ball. DId {i‘,"t‘E‘u’“&fi{e‘fifl" fi:rma n::c'immn obligflfil&u: cordlal agroentont on the' poluts of doctrine spoken of by Drof. Swibg? nated, -fi‘mnunu:{ Bid bellof in the diviait niind A ‘!u Hlind coivbridd fit! ad Wl s oro wore no grounds for wad satisile Oounsel }Yd a right to make and withdraw mo- A.—Prof. Swinj thd mombers should withdtaw from the body omporarily. tigna at peARuEe: Lot ke o : 7.0F | Ty doubes i 4t point, T 3 | T ok t6f b tid b Drondor basih thak thav? A inbhbecd of socldty=-that b S D, R brtes whld 1o hevwe ak M. Oollice'n | T wan. Auontod dint tho Prsvbytery siould | Cllviat, - Fhit ok 1. 670 Wt | himsel) by by, bk He SEvior had entaio ; odor Baslb UK tha? 2 | duby o potfora 1nifo-g orlé bofotd i, Aoy Tho Examinton of Wintses e | EPGRR b et | Wb, e |G RN R e | BRI G B | (R st ol el e it 1 torly worthlosg to al . for 'nce of nokA., oct, , 88 X juil, A0 WxtEASt from | dorst a i o )\ o » {he Prosecution Begun, fflim, n“?mm{}fik. 2, Cateon. it khow ao&l‘é Wibiacas moved tias bhonoto th onesof | an unpublishod nevzyan, s ndloaion of e cné’lg' fa""ifi}m\ 3«;' t"a‘?"q.fif“é‘; 9%('3‘5-}'1“5'563 “mm\% ];; lqr%r;fl{{: fi%‘}.‘g wis m;:: lwolm wd | soetibnn T e vt s [ % L 1y it Wlifol sometimes atato reatiisht 62 tH 1A% of Gifored Which tfad Q.—DId yotl 8¥6F hodt e, Hwl t¥ nderstddd Prort BWIH 3 L o v A3k, Phibetmon Fopoatet, ihat he W tbh Dr. Trowhridgs sugeostod from 11404 | thio dootrine, an ! g dalivor a | er you undors! ! Bl An ropudintivg ittt ei e e o il; -l mg' s "_:t o r&;: L ‘::’ 1‘ oy :gr::dr ;fihl&%‘ .ol courne, in thoso statomonts | given bf' Mones lnd‘l slthough I did not agreo | dlscolifid 6n the lnlfibfit o with himd dkadt] r8fhtd 6 L8 itho of tho word “ropealed,” I thought his idos was sub- atantially correol By Drof. Blackburn—Q.—' de ntood Brok. dfl‘%flfg‘ T iy gfin‘é, thia Ohfisttan | ho idon of a call to the ministry | mfpniyf, Al iy ot landord #endd than Luis 1, Tkt horop':@h’\{e i hation = Will ¥l aiato tho idah 6F think dbiiott ab | r Bomb Apecisl fmprobélon béing mada diio ¢ ot docloty; { érctinntances, P e o TS SR e “Snge | froubnlivowy (odleghtily that, - Ttotlusuen : 5 Tellg Hotw He | B , €8 18 Wobld ot ballevs hia thatithob Dr. Patterdon B A ammnm 20k toava to withdeat &ha thotlon Talked with the Professor. | msfhyaaioss bt e v a tho rifht to withdraw hib molith Yor s tohuan- 5 4 DR. PATTERSON, 3 ] as Ltbo v atton—Q.—Will you bd “‘;9 enough to ntate thathir a1 ut? Lesrd Prof, Bwing pronch? A=} héued him four oF AVS timon. wexa, 2 “firan“oyon urgod & tonr hours’ sontinuoid 0 bora wers dxed from 10 &/, 468 p. m. Bifer Garlveh of 'enid ho bad & der Caldwell, of Homewood, ®aid he did voi} un 1€ tadd hinl 5 h6ld $he Sab@lliln | ton by .different moember s of avoga- de t £6 th reat deal of nool fo put 1ato tho ground, and he o Miopamiiin idh of tho Bbity 6F Qlriet § A L 5 underataod 1 ¢o b Bige6 thau thdt, — s whioh you honrd, did he | Yid of tho bity 6F Olirlst ? A.~I Askpll Llin | tibhs B3 purkilite. ~ Ho spko of — ; B g RO ot 36 36 sk ot b hbid vty | SO0, 0 oblain Joavo of Mbronge fof ta# £d- | bring out tho dboisinas Waldh We oall Evangol. | 36 S8 SAMA Bxpisiny Aot inke Ho SMA | Astdbttsn OF & pIoToBMIoR by the benyon ot oo | triie e rgren oo disuction, medoby Al B Bonvinced of | i ’-’\"‘ P TEAton of tig ouiagy | —-ndoF of tho somsion. ' ¥4 wha grauted, feal—I mean tho daotrine of salvation through | he di nob hold the Bnbollian viaw ; that it was bpeluoss of fuo morchant and othors, end also | authority of il Srdsf 6f {hb Hinibtry? A.—1 L nd ecame A ce g !l t& I‘{:% ‘::ftp 0 01 e Yot o 1'1'!!! lflrlnmuom the blood of Ohrist=1{n any way to satiafy you 7 | &mysterions sul f”“' snd he did not undortake | of the finiseF. I untasatosd Bim t6 sk} thit | do mot |uy|durataud that question, His Soundness or Lol ey b meboptod tnat | (Sl @hyLincaeee for the rosscation wat | 4.1 one o the socmons e ald bring Saftha | §0 dort e Usiok but Suvogt (ot wAS X | the mininter aslcked W pirsnit 116 0 Ty | *°Dr. Sacay oxplaer. & min offarod the . d]\ x; : y anid tho Proabytdty P A tmf-r rond, but & small proportion answeritg o | dobirine 1a°a way ta A ¢ty o that 118 ulatihot! oindatioh §h the lhhf ibll\h‘! for A tistitictich | same 'mf' hat the lawyer or merchant melactod Epincn\'mlmu(al!rl for instance, whichiwas su) 2 e ottt itelstol ChaAl 1t twaa not adeotttad | - Drof. Ba Seeogolzod 1, allisuph It ‘whs ok thb polst dF | of Fatlir, Sdd, aid Holy 2767 Wb {AIERONS bf 0Tk Blh duty-to 0 : wes sup. ‘@ Prof. Patton here resd the Yollowing atipula- ona ¢ o -Tn {18 thitter of §te complatht of the Re¥. Fratics Pation Againet the Rev, David Swing bofors the uhyter‘v qrqulem FORLY u}zaflb} sijpnisted the! upon thd rla) 6 {hla complaint, the following docu- ;\'mu atd publicationd tusy be rehd In dtidencs, tos Firat—The sormons conlained th Ihe bdok ehtited : 'Sflm;; rg;"hmy," published by Janwen, MuOlurg Second—The sermons entitled “ Soul Oyltnre,” ¢ 1, Paul and the Golden Ago,” ' Influence of Domocrpoy o Cnriatian Dooiting® 4 Vatiation, bt Mol Mo tive, “ A Religion of Yrords) auit # 014 Teatationt Tospiration,¥ puiblished 14 the Ohicags Pulprt, unl—fl.mmn-au.u;xlm, This Docllué of Viee, irit, G vt mbarbtachd oet istllon b8 18 moraly s niddél odd, 6!3 ioEaclial ‘BH8 P AT ahddtaiood (b to ‘HA & dissindtion if the Divide ?‘n‘tlu;-, and not Merdly it the form of manifoss 0B, By W. F. Wobd=Q=Till you satats whather you hava lisd Any douyersatioh with AMr, Dedn- ard, an aldes of the Ninth Preabytorian Ohurch, i lifs oftide P A.«~I hatd hid ¥hitidus convorsas tions with him, bt I do not remember any cone vershiibn with raferonss to Prof. Bving, Q.—1n LiA office, in which tho polnt conésrn. ing the im{:rbnlmx Pénlrha Wére apoken hbohd P A.—I may bava Likd stich & dénvorsation, but I osed to havd & hocallat e sovlety g 1mmhor of it,—and that avery man Elu authority by &w‘l‘kyinglo“: u:n,“-,x:dh:iflvgg fiab appoltited 1o worlt, acéording to hi oppor- | the Bishop.” He might Jibve bbfore he wont i, flibity, tof (hd Woltakd ahd Lappliesh of mbhs | in mome way, & cix‘&- but his Authotits kind,” I also undorstood him to ridicule tho | yas eoulaflcd’ 'by the Bighop. Ho wantod t: idea of m call to tho ministry, WHathor {8 & | knowi, stcoiding to My, 0\1\“!2‘! wunderstanding, apocial eall dr noty I am tob not ablo to sy, | he noticed any distinotion bobween the suthont bud it tras Isnguage of ridiculo ngainst tha idin | of tho Christian Minlstey, Al tfm bl of ¥/l this any man head s call to presch; He klib, de- hc)\g}nudy) hiad Bpolton. ! cording Yo my revolieotion of i, ridlculod ths ot Goudy—TI understood hin to roptaiate the dinanes by whioh ‘& ministor wan ordained to | idoa of auy Bpooibl #otion of God i dn) Iing nimAd proach. The Iauguago in whiok this was done I | to presth'y and aftorwsrds he alinded to_th( oannot undortake to repeat from racollection. It | ordinance ‘)y which s.man was ordainod—I da 18 onlf the gonoral polnta of tha sefmon that I | not romomber the preotan vtotds, bub I kivow remémber, that ho tdiculod is, and mald *‘ just B¢ if any ; o < by the Presbytery that Mr. Collier, if prosont, I . s Trould Say #0 ant 8. i O g, |t e, ek e : § » m the withok: T, ATOWBIIiEe: it prendnt, Would ¥o tostity. 1. moved thab 1 o tho undorstanding thai it . Collier wors prostnt he would tostify a6 alleged by the proas- ) ' { tor, Dr. Swazey Testifies c§ncernlng an :'nri)xytm;xg;mdm nond ot s, s i 'resbylor: i 3 a8 an Aieged Moretical Sormon, | hogur ettt to s time od simplity tho proceedings, ’.l‘Ee?Inderntnr said g:un action of the Prosby- Mr. Gowdy Is Positive as to Prof. mr!‘mprmiull{.{,fin&gr‘umuaMr.Comor'. isousaion. Q.—StHetly Asnking, would ou oall tho so mons ;vmuh you hoar "him _preach Gospel sor- monn Mr, Noyes objectad, on the ground that the ubAtioks A4 BoL SONLOTPIRES sy avidercs, The answer would simply be an_ovinion, a oriticism upon Prof. Swing's tetmdn, Mr. Patton waived tho quostion, Q.—Did you ever express, in conversation, your difficulty in understsuding swhat Prof, Bwing means i hif proaching—+your dlsastiafag. tion with it ? A.—Y'hive sometimoes exprossed mysolf ss nos undbratanding hits, and wishing d lio woulld bs mord explicit, not ebly ok doctrinal | Lbve 16 ecollsotion of It ndm, 1f yon wors to b governed in your viswa | virtues dropped from the fingers n the érdine ing's Vi f a Call to the ssetimony a8 alroads befure 11, Prosbytory rofect | T Sraliauad A Mitstonsey Tligion,” pob- | quotions, but on others—uo mars, howaver, - wn. TROWIRIDGE. ot thb Ohiletiom Einistey by the beschingn of (hat | Hobsorsicer. [Witnesh held. but his Sand & Swing's View of 2 Cal the toatimony of Mr, Calller. ‘Fourth—Tho xrtlols ont mr ¥ The Chlcago of the | 98 lluc‘t&nnl po::n ¢hi‘n on'oth«ir:‘ blished no?",fir"vn‘f:‘nll:?x‘:meys%mfm lfm":hl wiks {\‘,"flmfi' n}::lhv‘ocn‘lg unya‘\‘n‘ru‘ ln‘}onunhcm ?t ‘l‘\..: mnnl;rfitr- tfi;’;]g st e b y 'y g Bk ! ott 3 rof, N el 0 666 know bus 0 subtyer ., Noyou—Q.—D6 you think & Ministry. i Eof, Patton ::!;l“l‘?ui:l‘xfln: Gnae b would fonay | Chliln,” publiedIa he Lakeide ontiy, Oclsar, oA You the suthor of & lelter publlsho, | 2088 HiATiing withend b l0ar)—1h thab yotr | & behng k move mekier of oplaion. T wadstatond | dook drop (romm fhe Bagorss (Latghtory "1V hnndwflflng? —Yon, alk. Trof, Patton theh read the followitg ¢ Orpich oF Tim mnm.,} 813, Fifth~Tho atilols énlitled, ©7Tho Interpretsiton of fl;-’A fl;‘l‘ 0, printed in the Sunday-Sehoot Teacher af Jul 3 Stlh—The following sermons, printed {n the Zimes and Tite Tmoone, of {his clty, purporting o have boen preachad by 31z, Suwing, to-vit sermon on Providents, printod sbout Sept. 1B, 1872, preachod Trom 11, Poter, 3and 9 ; tho gormon on the death of Joln Stiart Ml printod in Tae Thinoxz, Seventh—The Articles published last year over hity nama fn the fnierior, to-wit: The articles entitled, “Prof, Swing on the Old Testament,” Sept, 1673 3 *0ld ' Testament Inspiration,” Bept, 18,” 18737 And it {8 stipulntod that Prof. Swing was $his author of the ald sermons and articies; and jt s further agreed any of the sald publications may bs cdrrocted orlginsls in ‘the possession of Prof, Bwing, if rea to produce them, Lim to teach the doctrine that o minister was | No bnswer, Just like anyBody else fu melecting his puranit, THE BAME SERNON, excopt thathe olaimed that the otoupation or | _Dr. Patterson—I think tho Presbytory will fne pursuit of » ministor was the most important in | dulgo tho quention being asked Prof, Swing, soclely. It wasthe highost ginde, beoauss ita | whothor this was ths sermon prosched at the inc 4 opporiunitios worp highor, He cnmfumd it with ( stallation of Dr. Bwazey ? ¢ tho influence of tho mombors of other profes- Lrof. Swing--It was the same sormon, and X sions and bunincss, l;xln. that it had an zocoss | am sorry that Thave not a copy of it, I have to the ear of overyhody ; and, from the oppor- | not, and’ do not remomber what wag in it, and tunilies it had, it was the highest In rank of all | honco I would not want to intimate that Mr. the differant pursuits aud professions of lifo, Goudy is not 1ivlving the purport of it. I conld Q.—You understood that, then, to exhaust the | not say so, us I havo not a aopy of it. idos of the minisiry as taught by him? A.— After prayor by tho Rev. Mr: Trowbridgo, the That is whas he asid, -~ | Prosbytory adjourned until 10 n'clooEu this By Prof, Bw(nsl—c,—md I not atate that | morning. the roason the hauds of the Presbytery werc so e e < valuable upon & man's hoad, was beoauss the | . THE BOOKMAKERE' WAR, Hands of all soclety were re-llng upon his hoad ‘Thore nover was & ministerial disputo which beyond the Presbytery? A,~I do notremombor | did not, sooner ar latar, lead to & number of &ace that exproaston. ondai toats, and the Prof, Bring—I am sorry, ry conteats, and that is unfortunately prow ;Do you think thet, Washington was onlled Ing ta be trus of the present Patton-Swing oons of God to be » leader in tho Amorioan Ropublic? | troversy, which now has ite side-show in tha A—I am not competent o express any opinion | form of a differcnco betwoen two of tho loading following passage oocurred? Nor do I appeat as an apologlst for Prof, Bwing's pocullaretyla of preaching, fo far aakio avaldsa cloae aud unoquivocal alatemont of the central dootrines of ovangolical Chrlstianity, his presching seems to me sorfously defeotive, 2 A.—Yos, sir, I wish to say, howover, tunt in tho remark *zo for as he Avoids,” I did not menn to intimats that I thought ho did studious. 1y and intentionally avold ; ko far ne ho did, I regard that judgmont aa correct, .—Do you think there was any reason for maying that “ho doos avoid 1t?"' Daos that statomont mesn to imply that hodocs? A— No; I did nob mean to imply it, but, in so far as that is truo, if 1t Is true, I should rogard itana sorious defect, or would in any man's preaching. . Q.—Would you make such & statoment in re- spect to any mau's preaching, of whom you had any doubt about his avoidanco of mnny of theso doctrines? A.—~If aman wero distinguishcd for oxplicitness and cloarnces on those poluts, perhaps I might not; but Lwould not lmrly tnt [ regarded him as beingy any more dofective & Mr. Pay withdrew his motion as abovo rolated, E inati hm%y\tv "m!‘ thml" r%nmml hl: n;nuor‘x that clhe And o Rigorous Examination osbytery rofans at tho presoat stags to recolvo the tostimony of Mr. Collior aa admitto tho Does Not Shake Him, counasl for tho accused, d;by Dr. Pattornon protoated agalnst commitiing :Eol!’mufixylar{dc% nflln n%mfilalun lzn n‘:nrnoun:n at such would be Mr, Collier's tostimony in The Bookseller's War. caso ho wore prasent, Y Prof. Patton said that the admiesion of Mr. Noiyuen was dictated by & knowledge of whas Mr. JMORNING EESSION.h il ot c‘c jor lm:ld zx it he .\:lnrohhere. nnu" ““r‘ :;]mlu- \bytory resumed thd trial of | sion was doubiless made by oonsent of & Ao~ p,g‘,. g?&i‘gffi:&;"’mon‘mg in the First zuufl, who knew what he had said to Mr. Col- T, Church, corner of Indisua avonug and Twenty- | "8 waor satd Prof, Swingdid not admit oo zat sigoct. Tho oallo? theron suowea s $ul | yaoh thing. That improssion was induced by atteridancs of 1ay and cletical delogates, while :‘!:a admission of Mr, Noyes, and wonld prejudice b }4 ctators pres- 0 cage, :];(éh) e’ g!)flfll] IR/ OL RS L M OI:JEOT O:ISIA,:TNO ‘!’dfl'fi S‘OHMXON.[ P > [r. Noyos s e made 8 concesrion In Ab 10 o'clocts the Presbytery was ealled to | o qoy5\0 Y00 c itk (ho. brisl, Delleving that ordor by the Moderator, the Rov. Arthur Mitch- | ¢hoy would bo ablo to attond to Mr. Collier's oll, who requosted that the first fow momonta be | testimony when it was reached, but, a8 the ad- 181 Waaz WABRINGTON BTARNT, Cu10aao, Oct, 2,1872,, Tha Rev, Tohn Crosfer 4 DeAn Bno : Yours, containing $2, i roceived, As to Bro, Swing's sermon—the, notice of it was taken from tho report in the Tfines,~-aud how much it was obscured or prescuted, I do not know, Bwing is a queor genfus, i probably would notlct us have his MBS, We, who &now and love him, belleve hols nll right at Lottom, nnd yet he troublos us & groat dial by his dubious or one-sided ftatoments of thiugs, But 1o gota hold of mon that 1o one elas can roach, and we. don’t wish to harass 80 able and really quod s brother unlcss we Are compolled to, Xdon't know but he will forco the Preabytory to call him'to nccount, but I know Lo regards bimaelf as orthodoz. _Yours fraternally, J, H, TRowWnRIDOX, The reading of the letter oocasioned loud laugnter among tle spockators. Prof, Patton—**That {8 all." Prof. Swing—" Whore do you reside, Mr. Trowbridge? " [Laughtor.] A.—I rosido at Riv- orside, at the present timo, sir. Fraxois L, PATroN, . Gzorax O, Novxs, « Omroaco, April 27, 1874, Prof. Patton offerod thess sermons and aril- oles in evidence. The reading could be waived, and_ such oxtracis as were neccssary could be read during the arguments. THUR REY, MR YOUNG, The Rey. W. C. lenq‘ was tho firat witness : o X ) Prof. Bwiug—Thnt is all. on that, It'ia aquesti thics that I t gpent fo preyes. This wes dons for & very fow | mission hind givon rine to longiny disoussion, ke | callod, and promised to % declare tho truth, the | on that polnt than I would moan to imply that u {ltenowed taughior In which everybody but | protond. to' testl et Ttastity to tho facts z‘”’;“:"lg flm?‘ of Chioago, Mossra, Koon, moments indoed, and then tho Moderator Jod in | should withdraw it. o wholo truth, and nothing but the trath. man was defaotive in his style of proaching who | Prof, Patton joined:] thateT kiow, ooke & Co. and Jansen, MoCiwg & Co’ Mr, Ely objocted to the withdrawal. The Rov. Mr. Ferris called attontion to the Iways insisted upon divino sovorsigumty snd | = Dir. Noyes did not think the letter wasev- | = Prof. Swing—I think myiden was—wag it not? | A fowweoks ago the Iast-named firm publishod andible prayer. The Moderator deoided it to bs proper, rovision of the Constitation which required | i . ht to b d b, | —f o " AR TS, e g e ;7“ {hnt D10 000 itaaTR e A B "mlgm“ :{:?;{0[13 r:‘: :Ilt:nggx:::rfmumhnuon of his hear- | denoo, or that it ought to be regarded as_sucl that God calls every man fo his ofion ? A.—X | & book called * Truths for To-day," being & cole It woa simply a personsl opinion—a critloism which might havo been made from a vory partial and inadequate undoratanding of tho facts, Prof. Yatton rejoined that thoro had boen s good deal of personal opiuion in the oross-ox- A aousiderable discassion took place as tothe Prof. Patton gsve notice of his intontion to approval of the minutes, Dr. Bwazoy contending | Feasw nis motion for & continuance. # Mr. Ely appesled from the ruling of the thiat fhe questions to Prof. Paiton and answers | o (85 0T EPSCLG, H5Qusation wae ending, think that ides was held outy ~s=--== | laction of & number of Prof. Bwing's scrmonn. . —That His eall to the clergyman wasthe | It had highent and holicst becsuse it m’gmthu “fl;"fifi poetpons bf:ln .}‘LZ-S:&':? non‘mht‘l’:-‘ g‘l’l‘,n fin:f oflica? A.—I understood it to bo disti whon it bocame manifest that Dr, Patton tntends oxmm must remain absent, excopt by permis- sion. Prof. Patton and Mr. Noyes sald they lad no objection to the witnessas all remaining. Oross-examined by Mr. Noyes: Q.—How many times have you heard Prof. Bwing proach ? ~A,~I think about five times ; % i ossibly more. stated that the office of olergyman was thoe - In zelation to procuring tho testimony of ""f"‘ the Prosbytory took » secess until haif-past ‘tho wituoas was thon oxamined by Prof. Pat- | PG —Wore any of thoso sermons that yon have | amination of Dr. Pattorson. The allegation in | astin calling or grade of sy pursult o Tos | o &L‘.’“Jé'fi.ifi"o"{ffi.i ol o mastar 5 o Laird Gollier in tho-proceedings of the previous | o'clook. 3 ton. RS heard him preach of & spooial chnm:a:r—-mh- the mocond specification under the firut chiarge By Mr, l?nyea——Q.——Yau understood the de- | Fourth Church insisted that the hu’ék should : gay shonld be embodied in the minutes as & part e . Q.—Did you over have a conversation with | sionary or otherwise? set forth that tho olfect of his (Bwing's) proach- | fondant fo say that God oallod ovory man to his | forth before the trial bogan, and to that deal%; of tho record. Dr. Kittredge also contended AFTERNOON SESSION. s, Swing with rospect to his relstions to the | A.—Yes: one wass misslonary mermon, and | ing bad boon “'to cause graye doubts to be on- | work? A.—Yes, sir; that ovory mian has his | vrof, Swing yiolded. Thers wore somo sermona liboral Christisne ?~ A.—About, I think, four or tertained by his ministerial brothren ;" and the object he (Patton) had in view in colling Dr. Pattorson to tostify, and in producing the lettor of Mr. '.l.‘rnwbridfo, wng to sustain that specift- cation, The avidense was cortainly competent 7 i 4 of ki The Presbytery rosysemblod at 2:30 p. m. [ :‘:&:’: l‘;,“,f.’;:?:"é‘lm‘fif:,? c?:;:m:ce g‘; Prof. Blackburn, of the Committes appointed | five wooks ago, just afior our ministers' meeting, I showod Mr. Siving Jotter whiah I had receive: adfust the diftionlty. torevise the roll, presented a roport a8 to who g I A in answer to o lottor Ihad written to Mr. Hob- Prof. Patton objected to oncumbering the should have * . R." aflized to their names, 8d | 5o, "oy o5a namo bas boon montioned bofors the another of a spocial character—I havo forgoiten what tho subjoct wag, None of thom were sor- mons on subjests that would naturally Jead to sny donbtful discussion, except one, and in that I saw no partioulnr defect, position assigned him in sooicty, he having thoe | which the publishers would h lad! option as to what he shonld aladt to do—io de- | in tho cnlllollou, but the nu:l‘(;rsda;{l‘rl;wd:& tormine for himsolf, on account of his unwillingness to havs tho Q.—And that, thorefors, Goa called men to | sentiments thoroin avowed go befora tho world, thoministry? A.—Inthsenme way thatthe mer- | but i i [ iotes mith mattar which had no #ect toward | Who " atatad supply,” * evangelist,” ela. Court, and whom T kmow poraonally very well, in | . Q.—Do you kuow of any ruie of the Presby- | to do that. - (it o T Jewyer wae adlled 1o Hie Hiisknenas | ot s meapom In, Phich they wero give: | ‘infivencing the mind of tho body. He roforred A TERBONAL EXPLANATION. which the same, substantially, was asserted o8 | terian Church which prescribos the numbor of AMr. Trowbridge ssked whether & witness wonld Q,—Htill, it was God who called him to the | somo future duy to revise and correct thom. pm“;m“ug to the quostions asked by Dr, Bwa- Prof. Patton desircd as s matter of priviloge | i8 asrorted in the afidanit, {Hopaon's aflidavit | times o ministor shall preach upon tho distinct | be permitted to make an oxplanation. ministry? A.—Wall, alr, X underatood it to bo Tho book waa publisiied, and, owiog partly to T thems of * Salvation by the Blood of Christ? | A.~I havo not coms ncross eny. [Laughter.] By Mr, Ely—Q.—Have you mnot expressed your rograts soveral times at the indofinite man- Tor in which Prof, Swing ststed bis dootrinal convictions ? A.—J do not know whother that is o proper question. I am, howevor, very willing tosnswer it. Ilave not, in that form. I have said that I wished he would express his doctrinal viows somewhat morg distinctly, I do not know whothor I have often snid 80 or not, although I may havo raid o, a8 we are very apt to speak in rogard to ministors who differ from ourselves 08 to tho mode of their preaching—not implying that thoir style of preaching is suy worge than ours, but only expressing our own convictions. Iould like to add in ragard to that poiat, that 1 do not think I have eyer said anything of that ; Dr. Pattorson—I would ask what ho has to #ay in addition, [Lsughtor. ‘The Modorator ruled that s witness had the right to stute enything which he considered os- sontial to a correct understanding of the teati- mony which he wishod to give. Mr. Trowbridga wishied to say only two things ~first, ut the time the lotter was writton, hio awupfed tho position now'held by the prosocu- tor, a8 oditor of the Interior ; and, seconud, fhst the lotter was written a year and & hwall sgo, when he did uot undorstand Prof. Sying s well a5 be did now. [Laughter and applsuse.} DRt BWAZEY. - The Rev, Dr, Bwazsy was then sworn and ex- smined by Prof, Patton. Q.—Did Prof. Swing preach tho mermon, st your _mgtallation ns pastor of the Ashland Foy in conneotion with tho spplication for & con- | to maks o siatoment in justice to Limaelf, and publidbed subsiacitialiy in Losadas'e Easapxs.] tinuance, in justic to thoso who had misapprobondod the | poneioned in the shorb u:mvnrn‘flon that Dr. Paiterson, with some sigoifiesnce, I8g | gharacter of his remntks In the morning. He | epauod, Wiab Mr, Collisr—I cannot _give gostod that tho Court would, fudge, tor el | yud journed, yery much to bis rogreb and to bis | his words, I onn giva thom subutsptially— :{xl:a“ mv:ryau‘;flenmmn ‘auewers as to whether the | Burpriso, that tho statements ho made in rofor- that Mr. . Collier b abt different A times, orat ono time said to him thet * yow osecutor hsd msed duo diligence in bringing | ence to the admission of Mr. Noyes had buon o » Hio Ror. M, Colllor into court wero likely t0 | regardod fo a light difforent from what Eg‘;mfi] 1,‘:“.‘,‘[,E‘;}];;’;{,‘,‘:‘;’,,‘n",fl;;;fl,’n';‘fl‘j.“:3, bave somo infiuence. ho intended thoy should be. He know ho | feel and think thoologically togethor.” o aton cha o e avelmplo b | \vug sesponsible for tho misanderstanding, ho | Q.—DId he ovar intimate to you bLis knowlodge i ti mong members. kgow that he had made unse of unguarded that e was claimod 88 o _Unitarian ? A.—Yes pr&vfi:fl ]Ai%sfiir:.n\l\’u:l.k:r a8 ho umaerstoad that langusge, and spojen unadvisedly with bis lipa. In that far, tbat Le szid 2r. Collier had clmmeé holj d with hi tho objoct of tho prasocutor in, keoping thoss | o wished o mako hat statoment {raukly and bl s Lol in dronre wih B " wonveal ocois quostions and ‘n‘b"":‘ ‘%“‘n He D::mcn n: honorably. Ho dld not mesn to convey to the | that ho was slaimed b{ the Unitatiang? A,—! ??6'1’?5? :flfii’:lfi"&u"é rgog. : ¥ houso the impression that Mr, Noyes' admisslon dg not remember 1‘any slifln bnyml,zai his atatin Dr. Kittredgo m;ma’ ho hod Jheard the lnst of | Was an admission that tho testjmony of r, | th ;‘ilg;‘fol“fl” mo aa being in accor that every man of hia own choico selected his | its intrinsic morit, and partly 1o the approache i own pursuit.. I did not nndorstand that he | ing trial, for the p’uhliu}t’lon oynuhlned J&l‘\:yuson‘:- ropudiated the ides of providential direction in | mons to which Dr. Patton took excoption, it mot i sny of- them, with a very large sale. & . —Did you undorstand him to repudiate the | Kecn, Qooke & Co., seeing the sucaess of this iden of any spiritual diraction? A.—I did. ontorprise, thought that thoy thomaslves would .—In what way, then, did you understand | go into the same busiuess, and thorofore hought bim to say that God called men into this profes- | up, at s nominal price, the plates of the Ohicago sion or not? How did ho call them? A.—Sim- I}:llpil, which hug beon sold to some person by ply in the way that all human affairaaredirected | Carpontor & Bheldon as old motal. They alsa by God. ’ capled a few additlonal sermons_from the Allfe Q.—Did you understand him to tench dootrines | ance end thodaily papers. Whon Jansen,McClurg ou that pofut in conflict with the confession of | & Co. saw the rnnouncement of this forthcoming faith? A.—I do not know what the articlos of | publication thoy folt agarieved, sinco, while the confession of faith are on that quostion. thero is uo rulo ‘governing publishing houscs in Q.—You were in the houss when the prose- | Chicago, the customs provailing at tho East cutor read from the confession of faith on that | would not Lave allowed this action on Keen, Doints AT didnot boar it, Hir, Cooke & Co.'s part. According to the custom af- : i ok sort in the way of flading fault, but meroly in { Avonue Chwreh? A.—He did. 3 Q.—I understand yon, then, Mr. Goudy, fosny [ the trado the former wero Prof. Bwing’s publirhe ’“%Knnfifiui’fxmfl&"f'mqmm 28 to how the {‘;"2},‘:'..:3,‘5‘:& }\’E’r‘ fil;;g:y ;'?fifiar:fir::fi'.! Cross-examined by Alr, Noyes : 3 opsual convereation, a5 all miniters are soous- | Q.—Do you remombor tho subject of bis dis- | it the drifl of thet sormon wan that God calleq | ors. Thoy atatod as much to Kees, Cooke & tionn wers ssliod aud answored {ive ot My. Bwing, was competont, and way tho | _Q-—Did Mr. Bwiug eny to you that he agreed | tomad to spask. course? 4.—1do, air, 1 4o not racolloct #he | mon to tho mivistry ? AL ropost again that I | Co., who offercd to withdraw, but only for onm qurg?n'o "r?mon replied that e answored them as | only party competent, to admit thot, if Mr, | With Mr, Coltier? A.—No, elr, hodid not atall. | By Mr, Noyes—Q.—Have you over had any | text, but I remembor the topic very well, undorstood him to say that the minister solscted | which the othor firm considord uuroasonablo., Q.—What was jt? A.—ihe topie was, “The Clitistian Ministry,” and moro particularly » oertain ides in conneotion with it. Q.—What1dea? A.—Wall, aiv, not one alono, but two, Prof. Swing was rather getting at the ratiopale of the influonces sct at work in the Kingdom of Heayen,—porhaps I shall misrop- resont bim,—at least, I 8o underatood bim,—~end affirmed distinctly, as I undorstood him, the divine authority of the Christian ministry. Toees what thers was in.buman soeisty, and what thera might be in tho wants of mou, tuat brought about the Order of tho Christisn min- istry. And in “tho course of it, ho discussed what is_somotimes called a ** Call” to the min- convoreation with Urof, 8wing in rogard to tha points on which he has beon accused of being unsound? A.—Ihove, Q.—Have you ever had s converaation with him with rogard to the inspiration of the Borip- turea? Q.—I Liavo takep special poins to ascer~ tain his views on that point. Q.—And have drawn out from him a full ex~ prossion of his views? A.—A very full ex- Eression, Dy which I was satisfied of tho fact that i gecoptod the whole of the Scriptuves of the 0ld'and ;New Teatament as boing dlvinely ip- spired, in tho spme gonge in which I hold the doctrine myself. Q.—In this conversation, or in these convor- atter of courtesy—answered them facetiously | Collier wore prosont, he would testify in ihe [Laughter.} . :n!g with o idea tiat they would go on the rec- | terms of tho ailagation, the value of that testi- CQX-"—Only m.;i Mri Collior bndfloczl‘ua:i that hl.\ ord. It was o most unheard-of thing. mony of coursn being subject to rubuttal and the [ 0 e1\“] Bg?d L g.\ him? A,—That was all, Dr, Patterson—I would like to ask, Did Frof, fudgmanl; of tue Presbytory afterwards, 1fhe | B {Lonow: isugl ter.] Petton answer trushfuily? [Leughter.] hrd made noy statomont which tended to imply The It 'f’“‘nfl“:; B, Tuom&l’xu' Prof. Patton—That is my usual babit. that Mr. Noyes was admibtiug he fruth of tho 5 e Rov. C. L, T! nmpau;xxd wag thon pwa‘r‘n. Tha Rev. Mr. Batrett gavo notice that, in oage | allegation, lie was very sorry for it, and hoped y Prof, 1"2‘;“—9-;9 you ever have & tho motion o put on_regord wera defeated, ho | this ataseinont would bo considered 'ss & frank | cOUveraation with Mr. Sving in respoct to Lis yhould domand that Prof. Patton bo put on the | disavowal of any such intautiou, eing claimed as a Upitorian? A,—Yes, elr. In Mand and required $o state whether due dili« | Dr, Putternon esid ho still did not undoratand | tho courss of conversasions with Prof. Hwing, gonco had baen used in bringing in testimony. Prof. Patron on this point. Mr. Noyes doniad that sq‘l\t'!u:!t hes gnq k?“:inmum' o 3ir. Noyesurged tho importence of placiog ¢ bo knpw wha Mr. Collier would teatify, Q.—Wonld you be F ouu;gh 1“«1 uform us 1his metter upon record. rof, Patton sa.d be could sgppose Ar. Noyos ivul’:ln has, to the beat of your hnmv odgo and ba- 'A voto was then taken on the motion, snd it | might know this, whilo ho did not pdmit that | v d.pls‘agfl bm'ln-“t gnéx fn ‘tfl ;t subject? A.— was carried by & mujority of five votew. The | Mr. Collier would testify that Prof, Bying was s 0 not know, sir, that I could sfato vory woll his Tawsuit procisely as the merchant and tho | A proposition to submit the queation to tha lawyer seleated his, Booksollors’ Association of Chicago met with no Y.—You_testitled, 8 moment ago, thaé you | reply. underatood him fo ssy that God called every But the on who feels the worat abont this man to his work, of whatever kind it might be7 | matteris Prof. Swing, Many of the sermons A,—As God directed all human affairs, which Keon, Oooke & Co. proposed publishiuj Q.—If ho taught that dootrine, then you cor- | Were tho very ones which la specially vb]cc!cg tainly understood him to teach that God called | to having appear in their presont form. He mon to the miniatry? A,—I undorstood him to | stated bhis objoctions yorbally to the firm, and ridigule tha idoa thnt oy man had a call to the | thon wrote them the following lotter : ministry. i, e B Army 30. Q,—MHow could that ba? A.~—I romember now | K4, Cooks & Co, ¢ - P A e vy oriepe, | aubject, it hon. sppentes. o m ey b e v subjeot, it Los appeared fo‘mo that b; an onsodoto, o -mupposition,—that SOMS | Yaue Pt sermene on wor: to it Ioaing young man Qpeno tho * Bible and | tomy publishers, Jansen, McOlurg & Co,, who, rely~ & S what passed, becauso it was o somewhat freo | sations, if You have had moro than one, | 18tty. Whon & man mays “I have a oML~ | 0% pouespe, and immediatoly considered | ing éaumed contral of o Indios applandod, sz, Unsiaman, | Lemight fasa o that s Coller | 30" Poiclieeq Gonvoraation upon mattors chat | did tho quésdion of the divinity, or, aj | mosn thot kind of o call, and T don't musn an m&m}’ Stteation s oallad io that nasmago | DUpished o oxpensiye Book. © I ficrefors ‘oo, lie Rev. Mr. Trowbridge moved to employ & |~ Dr. Pattorson wan nok satisfiol yat, Tore sgitaliug tho publis, and had bogun 40 | that seome fo b rogarded by, the f’x?}’"“i gmgmn‘ggr;n;m!mg;;‘;;ggggg‘;" FOORA] by tod, and thorofore it was 8 dixine rovclation Syl yoit 06 poskean i o i hoge id piates, bl g . agitato the Presbytory. Isl a glad to gan- | tor as au ambiguous o e doi of N drit 0 bim, an mnusf bave tho to go an » stgnoguapher to iako tho proccadings. . §ffi"§3§:§"§:‘:f&ffé’éfi e peot. Patton'e vor any qllealténfikulla:at will make Solatio fhe Clyist—did Ayun[ic::vdur «:nu:u:;: st question al=Doon rg:lgg‘;g;&fl&;gfi“}“g;fl of the pm:rahlt‘l‘m gu:gel 10l tho peopio,—that e was B bt ool et "v‘.,'i‘;"“.;,.?f;‘f\,‘:’.".fia“bu; : 4 ily. 1 i i point you woul 0 to roach. with him. =] ot at the same time thal T called to proach. ditablo to all parti b T I e ' Tt beMed BEaR i, statorent, Ao fur a9 16 corrostot s pravious | *'G.—Did you ovor romind i of tho negative | Y conforred vith bim on fho ubect of fpspira- | Qro¥Xoa ? Aol think{ do. 4 could not dro e g Q.—But if God aalled every man to his worlt, | servant, (Slgued) AVID BWING. how conld the sormon teach othorwise than that { Mo this no reply has yet beon givon, Whila Ho colled men to the minlatry? A.—I am not | goan, Oooke & Ga. haye & legal right to_publish theclogian enough to infer the differonca bo- | thiy baok, the sermens beiug now public prop- t\vaunncmfienamkmd » call special; but I [ arty yet it is apparenilyin bad teste to sond undoratood him distinctly $o depy that God had | thein out sgainat tho wishos and in deflance of any special or divine agency in calling or sot- | {ho raquest af th porson who wrote them, ting np[m‘t n:‘xy nm:d!n the xlnluintry. A S = ¢ .—I undomtood you to eay s momons e . ¥ tht Ho oatlod alt men to thoir work, and, if &5, | MIOHLGAN UNIVERSITY. W haw could be deny that Hoe called mon tfo {he ——le minjstry? The largey pn?omion ingludes the | The Suspended Stndonts~The Faculty lesser 7 A.~I huva not daid that, and I do not and the Press. intand to sty tiat bo anid God called all men to Swsctal Dispatch to The Chicago Tribune, 3 thoir asyorsl mlxgl‘nng»—m “:fi:l‘ ':"“ld"““"m’sy ANX Anvon, Mich,, May 5.—Tha troublo be any mora than Providenco divesis and controls . all mor in thoir action, twoon tho members and the Faoulty of the Unl. assert contrary to tho memory of aoyhody elue, but I think it wan this—indeed I am quite suro —that there wore gome persops who geemed to think they had n special call, He spoke not of tho renl call of God, bub of the superatitious ides, whore & man_gots up some morning and snys: 1 hove o coll to proach ;" that the real call was not of that order, af loast I o understood him, . Q.—Did ho draw an anelogy botwoen the mip- istry and tho professions in life? A.—~He did, if I'remembor sright. : Q.—Do Kou romembor any of his illusfrations ? A.—Ido, but I would be hurdly compctont to ropeab thom, I romember tlis much.” Ho took the groynd that the Christinn ministry sould not die opb; that it yasrooted info the Very wants tion, for that taok an ontive sjtiing; andho ex- ressed, as I understood, very uuoquivocally his Eollal in the supreme divinity, as fam acous- tomed to oxpress it, of Christ, o tho deity of Christ, in tho ordinsry evangelioal sense, Q.—VWithout asking separate quostions, with regard to whioh of the ovangelioal dactrines, lot me ask, puttiug them all into ono quostion whether you went over with him, or drew oul from him, any exnression of hia yisns upon tha dootrines of onr Uhurch, which we hold especial- 13, in common with ether evangalicsl ehurchoa— evaugolical dootrines ? A.—I went ovor with him atl the pointa about which the oditor of the Interior exprassed doubt, aaking his opinion specifically in regard ta each ono of thoso points, 2 Olork movod that Dr. Bwazey and | wan sn admission thab this tesiimony wes truo, | Charactor of bis pranching—tho equivacal char- yfl‘ffife’f;fl be roquested to repest lh:yquau- This correction was eatisfactory, So far was I mgrlef hin lxluf.'u‘;zn ? 1 A I‘rumfim‘t:a; pon & tions and snswors. from_admitling that the toblimony waa true, f SoU8 0 O0EH "{“L “k‘;" R Bror. "s my it Prol. Patton snid that tho quostions and an- | that Iknew at the time that it could be over- "°"l“'=;l!-: ‘lmh ng ‘Y‘i ‘{ob‘ ‘Km c;:tn- swers could not bo repeated, 28 thoy were nob in | whelmingly.robutted. Tho admission was mado cl"n ing 'y :l aving uuln ol nh;m; ;’th' eu nita- existonce. 3 simply and only roallow the trisl to go on. It | KN AU KO ;"”I‘,“"‘l‘)“gl g i m:‘;’ of “Dr, Swazoy offered to rend iho_questiona from | was withdrawn when i became evident fhat :] A om ‘“'sx" o} -V‘"fi Ao m‘ to be in tho nowapaper roports. Prof. Patton could do | some gentlemen couatrued my consent fto ng- o ‘{;fi" Dg preciso {‘ “1"“’ ol:‘l. that 1 {he snme with the answers. sumo thot Mr. Collier would testity su doslred, | Qi=Did you over intimato to, him, that Prof. Patton said he should do nothing of the | as an admissjon that such testimony would o ““Y 8 Wl A": 1 ‘“m" °b““ ‘I‘Pk fl'& ll’ll;rb r!t ? o, oo sunwers rnoried wore ok e au- | drue, On tho soatray, ¥ kne It to To ontirely pr v M L gy B L ind be gave, and ho should nob accept thom. | false, s ¢ : . ) e mation }o request & ropatition of the ques- | Bt so far sn Prof. Paiton's astatement Ip- | phetler it would ot bo wisef L would stats tions and nnn\v]l:rfl waa nfid‘:yxe o tlhma‘than ;}mcl IJ‘;my hn‘r’«é lion:ffkm;mluldxn a8 t‘o i: :\’n’;‘; V;:;—m“ "‘zgdfl;“ \':J':s ot tuh .nnm, uun_;_ . Swozoy then rel hop Off 8 ho romoem- | whothor Mr. Collier wor estify af all or nof 8 : b hcfi% lhem,yn.wlaull Dy tho phonographic notes | it is incorrect. 1 have no suchylmowladga. 1 | bis doctrinel viows, and rolieve tho embarrass- . | ments of his friends and the agitation bofore iafied me fully thut ho entertainod tho | 0f human sooiety, and if thore woro no provision Prof, Bing—T think Mr, Goudy, now that voraity, which was last night ended by the sus o A e, o Drof, Patton's turn, he ssld e | By, b czdlt.hn e “imfm 'uf'mh““:x?::x:; “o’x the public. d :;‘fn“;fi:;“vgw;“{; rueg{'rd'w ovn:v anq of tham, | Made of a dofinite charactor fox sh order of MAR | xopeppr thfim.zr:unn, T emidtala T ‘nut—l- pension pf 81 students, {9 pdmitted by the Pro- - “5“ ? e bofi-ntffu Toplis made by him the Hlyy b h".:&’%?;:f’flh’{'fii«%"" jPaubioch Q.—Did vou give him to understand that that | [Ap ';filum.] : to proach, fhere would bo, noverthieloss, Bush A1 | 41,50 some ppen a Hiible, soying that *ywiatover | fossors to hsve been the most formidable which ;l;:éec:;gnrgfim AR < On tho question of Prof. Patfon's xenswed | wa your viow of tho cago an tp jta wisdom? G iayayou not stated to me sad oihisre ok “‘b‘?'_'o’f.’\f-%‘:%%':&‘."é&"t{,‘s Ourlstian_miniatry | Sirikos wy oy L will now foliow,” and coming (0 | Lap occnrred within the past ¢wenty-Ova 3 Tho Moderator snggested that this would Lave mommi for X %ontli'n_nnnca, r, Noyos read the Qn_n\ e Ifif’l"nlml:lfflk I suggested to him what w{f:fl;fl; 3?&‘1:!“‘;1“ ya h:x‘: dono this, and were | S orIIpR to y‘i ir recollostjon of LiRt ser- :);::? od (hn:‘ruh:n{fl? tll::u:!fl;'l,:l‘l"y gt %‘lfi"l yoars of Amorican goliegiata bistory. Tho pum. i ‘%’fi 2’::2‘:: ":i'm Lio should fhen ssk that the tollo:vdr;u- ::,,, duly sworn, doppses and BAYE Cross-cxamined by Mr. Noyes : By Mr. Walkor—Q.—What Jed you to ses | mon? A."—‘-I do not " know that I undorstand | ot ridioulo that kind of o eall? A.— think so, | ber of the susponded excoeds, by one-lialf, thab Clork record the answers he had read. th‘n’t“\muu e e Ohrcr of Mo Mea- | Qu—Was this conyoruntion thstyouhad with | Prof. Bwing on' these poluts? A—Aftor this | JOUT quostion, Q.—Do you yonraslf think that would ba a [ of throe years ago in the VanAmburgh elscus - Q.—Did you understand him to teach that the Olyistian ministry is n Divine ordinanoe ? A~ T undorstood bim not to bo disoyssing ¢hat par- ticular question, but to afiirm and assume it. I caunot aay positively. thnt ho sfirmod it, bub he certainly aisumod {t. I will “J'g“ it Iy prope exprossion of doubts in the Inferior I folt It was my duty as & Christiau brother to go to bim, {!y Mr, Ely—Q.—Lst mo agk you whather yon had not found {t necossary, prior to that time, to hold conyorsations with Prof, Swing in roforopos to {hoso questionsP ' A,~—Novor in “roforopoy to Dr. Pattersou moved_to accopt those as tho | siaby inChicago, Iil,, the Itev, Robort Laird Cojlier Mr, Bwing beforo or aftor Prof. Putton bad magde e P . 1 ~ | wrofs Lim a lcttor asking afiant to ssaist in the dedi- | hig chargas sgainst Prof, Bwing in the Inferior 7 :.‘;im;l..n given by P’rot, Pattou. The motion pre. e of s mow aburol; that nglsut roplied th D% ;,!‘.m x%lur o tho aditorjal o ko tho pub- lod B o, declining to asalat fu auch dedication ; that i suol | F A7 4 rof. Patton gave notice of & protest. i ey rolige aherges ) Tk GENTUCKY AVFIDAVTH. o e Tihat. flf.”fi",fl"",’,’;{’;._:“;- {;2}‘,:%"2,,,{: ‘% | “Dr. Bwagey rose to » point of ardor. *The oy gonuine call ?* A,—( am not theologian encugh | caso, aithough ab ihat Hmo the Faculty hod 5 toanswer. [Laughter.] much more roagan for {ts eeverity thon nt pros- e By Mr, Ely.—Q—~I “nodorstood you | ont, Whon tho announcemen} of fhe Buspens . to eay that Prof, Bwing, in this #er- [ sion was mado this eyemng, the io- ‘ mon, ignored the iden of an inward | touss oxoitomont of the past waok waa spiritual opll to tho ministry? A.—Thni qu: not inorenaed, aa such a decision wos fally antio- . o | @ pgrec Court had no righ fo ssk about privale convor- 0 ud)g‘p!r{:z:‘tfikr:%c‘-2-“31’:5:?!“:‘;‘}::’:::“ ';:- .1155?-‘3,'{)‘:‘1‘: u"a“‘-‘l"n&fi‘éfl'.“x’; henluhlx:mn'llid:g‘?.\.: unkl&n.fl bnwnug Endlvlduuu in gfisnvl to spch | the P‘a’l‘l lthl"‘lwl‘ r“’Wh the dpubis wera ox- ?.'1.5‘;'}“ l’mn‘;u.?ivn;g{:m;mn:f’:@outh:h‘}:“;rtt‘g:: :';:.“ ';‘:;;;’ifl"l"d,fi;“?g ‘,mp“b‘lam ,{'.“t{{f,,, i:l:ltefli hgflnfi:\nln‘;m? \‘!tlrlngnflogn&‘:h:ggé'l; ¢ v. , an Lo could therob, h 7 ressed in the Inferior. g ) By thet he repnd | he allair, T r O o could ot tell whotlier o | 8904 ot ioe Euse. 5 o ffi&‘i “'21:1:21;;‘?.‘ 'm’.i':’:‘l:fi B Noyas anld the dotanse was quita willing | © Q=1 monh WA sogard to_fhe dorbte Uoxy ol that diteonsas kWAt U a!}lnnd‘omlfiu:s i T oo s apeia o | Oanage wbieh s st ad Guca onco paioned ) o b Mrport oxpreasce 0 firp} speciti- b 16 t) ' not, prior to thal Piriais ;. & Ll ed call to_preach. 0 laco procise! sud nof since repeal 3 % siothe could provo tem, R AR i | that aucl teatimony o3 il 80 far boon offero &‘:&‘afld’ ;1‘; vum'r:&g::ragflon 1°vu13 Wim? A, | Divino authority of tho Obristion miuistry s, u;’lflflh‘n umundrt’hnt man’ nelaok the pr'u(msuim'xv ‘'he Faculty Tha takan sotive mosne to cut off E d him § it 'y Mr. Noyee sskod if he ozpacted to prove by | SAonalis e tecoil vt ARl WA U ien | ahowd go in. FLadghter.] aud Tdid nob Lbsr anytbing ab thap timo which o i i dor ol 3 Tho Moderator did not ool called upon to rule | I have po recoljsction of aver conyersing with i of law or tho morchant his businens, crilioiam, tho roportera for the Dotroit papora i fi?&.‘i‘:":‘grin'sp:fi?::flfi21"15;3'?.( Bring tha B | L e O § e supchetes 1a s th fetimeny outy o thove s 58 objecton | bim fsegari to s mods of proweiug, prioe B e A e Tarmony syl bl o i Drobuton-QoDid you cot tho, ten | buring P:;‘::‘n ihvongic ity Iniuonce, llenced il i i i n ler, And afilant furth on the pert of 6 defendant, {4 8 Ltimo, ayp forgotten 4 A % 1 iy 3 5 g1 y Y "sif:d\%?fli:éefioxl}‘mf f;.‘,'.,,!i‘i":.‘ii' wero i ot~ | £hos Dhek e ek oxsusfed halpis with sl Collor, | "*Thio gross-esamiugtiols was thon Feymed. o tatton with Lim about tanpiration wao bofora | tatomont: ! Unto this eattiolic, visblo Obureh | 53y in that discourss, that ono man was just ss | sacks to tarastall advorse public commat by lia Chylst bath given the minjstry, oraclos, and or- dinancos of dod for the gathoring and "perfoct- ing of the enints, in this life, to the end of tho world ; pad dozh, by Hig own prosenco and 8pirit, acoording to Mis melu, Taske thom offeotusl” thereunto?” A.~B80 far sy I underptood i, entirely; and I will say to the proseoutor that I looked at fho words he Las jusp rasd, to seo whether thoy would seom to contradict my idea of his dis- oF uot, for I dig not underaiand:Prot, Bwiug cor~ rguuy'n firat, In rogard to tho subject of in- apiraton, and for that reason I wished fo ponfer with him, i —Your opinion, then, way ohauged W rotioney 0 Din. Yiowa OnEt MbJo0t? A I will pot sny my oplpion; I had wo matured opiuion ; I was in doubs abou if. Q~—That is changod ? &, —Yos. 1y Mr, W. F. Wood—Q.—I would ask whether, ood as anothor with vegard to thoministry, and | Assoolated Proes dispatoh. ‘The susponded atus hot thoro was no partioulay l[ngralulnn mado | donts have begn ovderod to loave town at puge. upon his (the man's) mind—no inllugnca by the —_— apiritta direot bim'to this professlon? A—[| . REMOVAL OF INDIAN TRIBES, understood thay thoro was no partioniar jufiuence Sosciat Dispateh to The Chicann Tribung, brought to boar, but that it (¢ho minlstry) in so- Diclh! ey b.—Mod, Sporry, Indian Agend oiety was at the top of the heap, 8. Pavy, Mey b s Bperry, Indlan Ag —Jngk a3 & man that ontors into some mer- | 86 Fort Dorthold, arsived at Bismapok to-day cantilo businoss, if he is disposod to ongage in | with delegations of Ariokaseos and Bapdune, - K {t—Dlackemithing, for Inatanco, like our good | poing to the Indiun Torsitory to examing that and Lsat Ls nayer preached in paiu Coliler's pulpit, nor | Q,—T dp ot rofer to the published chargos, “’i"ho ‘Modorator declded thom in order, thaniid Gollioe {n hia, Daviw Bwmig. | put to the public doubts, cancerajug Trat! Mr. Hurd moved that Prof. Patton be sworn, WOR L0y of0, - oRGK OnAnDRER, Notary Publip, | BWing's position, A.—My recollpotion is thal but withdraw it to avaid digouseion, " s my couvereation with Prof. Hwing was subse- 3r. Noyes thon repested bis question. O lawl + quout to the publioation of fho odjtorial, Prof. Patton-sald D6 did expost to prove that | X7l Paston Liore road tho following protess: Q.—Did Prof, Hwing intimate to you that there 3 The undersigned proigata sgainst the action of the | 4641 ha N?, diflioylty in coming out in the face charge. Preabylery | iug the questions of Dr. Bwazo; COLLIEN'S TEATIMONY, red ot Beot. batton, dad for tho followlug o | of that public imputation, or in roplying to it 3 id ho was prepsred to admit that 1, d ished the Prosbytery an sfidsyit | OD® \way ot tho other? A.—You, sir, _ Ma.rz:unn?g:!;um‘ tontity l«.lm- and go. Ife whl:k::é‘?nr{l'x":v‘l'l)l:“lnmhr:cn! lcn{mwy tho reasons Q.—Did you, ot any time during thap inter~ for aukii f tho c: nding, and | viow, stato to Prof, 8wiug that yon, persopall; a vecont i in arder tp | O0urae. brother (Collyer) [Jaughter] ; take Lold of tho itha view to the romoval of those { should show thsh tho testimony vould ot bo | {f kg, 8 colattnes £, 0 S YRGS | L AT aato N oftholody? ADurink | Sarigaave inae the Aot mutéc Laa aebons | - By Dr, Puttorson-—Do you secollck » Dr. | govl o Wodge o, kg, whensth fron 1 | SouTiov: s Ghon Yemirenrolused soloave | Prot. Patton talsed the point of order that | 831s any fach outaide of tho aflidavit. dor o | LAt convarmation Prof, Bwing statod his viows, | you ylatod to ono of thp eldars of Mr., 3 Jajg' | Robort Pattovson, l: "l '?u Bermon n“ynnr vory hot—white iast—talka the_suvil and strike | {he Missourl country, and would not send a dol- b the admission that Mr, Colliey would testify sub- “{;muza‘ th': ‘guu“:n:d:.un::t% ;fi?u‘dnm':n Yoo | a8 I remember upon cortain polnts, cleasl; wud | Shuroh that you considorod Mr, MoKalg and igurd;;'; upollxl:‘ n:xm?::u;d . -migfix;mx;m}x; it down, [Bnmer&uu‘{:w.ghter.] A~Lam Dot | egafion, Mouoy wad sont tho former Agont to i gtantislly as sst forth In & specifioation consti~ | garded a5 ovidence, explicitly, with which utatement I exprossed iy | Prof, merg qu\mlly fiumy {u this, that they m?“ a Y‘:o e ey A.‘-—I e oapable of anawering thad quostion, [Renowed | pay for this trip Iast fall, but It was not made for granting a continuance, and | ~ 3, Bocause th tio 0 answers aforesaid are | entisfaction. I do not know thet tho word ffiifi&i’&"’o":’mn csna !hgulrl ot now bo dis- | r.,.,méfiau? From .t::l?nnx:ory of the Qourt, of & | ** orthodgxy " was uspd in connegtion with {t, cumnel, couveraation whioh took place yoatordsy afternoon, in | Q.—Did you make any roquest of him ot that ware both dlgging eut The “foundation of the dnn'bnl? A—I ‘x‘\evar mado any such rematk, laughter.] hor was tho monoy acgounted for, MCA‘ tzoln will vilfi oither dlreatly or by implioation, to anyhody, Ly Mr. Trowbrldge—Q.—Do you understaud | to the Tersitory, Sperry and his party knoyw that he did in any way pnuuunrll. I ro- ontle that to bs the samo digcourap that was testified | Washington. mambor_that lher)o wos gotioral gratl op ox- bich the replics were uitdo aa o matter of courtssY, | tjmo, that ho would publish'the viows you thon | [A; prenned, hot onj himeslf, but’ by others. I | to by Dr. Bwazoy? A,—I did not hoar the mer- Tho Moderator ruled the point well taken, bl [l 3 [Applause.] i ——— N TION TOR QONTINUANCE WITHDBAWK. and with o lizs that ’}‘huy wors ta form a parb of 109 | grew out from him? A—L am o cortnin, E, the Tioy, Ms, Drobaton—Q.—You gpy you | & lflstnnlur:ém{z;!. xl’prlg;.k\,mgxafiui I:mlz:::’&xm: mon proachaed st Dr. Bwazey's installation. Report of Committes of Chicago Medioal ad’ poms conyersations with Drother Hwing with ro, mnnl to $ho ingpiration of the Qld Toatay poat A, qou eve, kst b st st n rel A Yo ;" finfiltb:‘u ong of the words on which I wish- —Xoy beard somothing srid about it? A— Sociaty. It :hw.\;lgeu'l;ng:-“ wI::n 'd molull:& o; hl‘lw The Committes of tio Chicago Bedical Soclety, to sormon and comparo it with the ong T haar Wi | whom tho sublect uf Cuiioraa wincs was reforsed; dfflmflt L Y on oard i unita in thp following yepost; . . , Patton sald that, to savo further dimi- o dorslgued that | YWhether or not I suggosted the publiostion of 5 correot, L wi’)rmkl‘:?tc:mn fhought it remained for the { Dr. Bwazoy moved the sppointment of » com- | ovor,—about the di-lnhl{uy of making it pub- Uourt to say whethor tho conaesslon of coansel— | mittoo to myly to the xgalon. Carrled. Dr. | lio, chargo to mo, of “what ho had heprd § ‘not in the way of approbation, but of goneral satiafaction and enjoyment, I romombor Dr, Robert Patter- son exprossed gratification, but upon whet poins ok > ; iq moont recollact. By Mr, Wotking—Q.~I undorstand yo to | ot The California winen from Perking, Stom & Ca, of O aotly of Mr. Colller—should | Bwazny, Mv. Jurd, pud Eider Gould were sp | Ty, M. Trowbrldge—Q.—You ‘atto that Prof, | od ta knaw what ho roslly mosnt, aud which be | I do not at thid me y My, Watklue—Q.~I undorstand Now York Nod mefars i D T i wan noy preparad to admit that | paintet s snch onmiliee, Bing uaiafed you by his “P“'fi?xnuu cortain | explained to mo. : ol trawbiligo—Q.—Dld Lo expross any | say that you undorstood Prof. Biring 1n Ui wor- ity sad el colisho, are wosiby At E{lrwmm My, Colller would testify to anything of the NO CONTINUANOE YET. oinds of doctrino, if T undorstood you rigutly, ,—Dp you know what e mesat by fhab oxe satinfaction at any park of {t? A, —Ho ox- | maf tosdy that & minstor chiose Lis profession, | Adeuco aud patronsge, and wo' horoby commend hem kind, and wan not wium‘; to soom to admit it for | Dr, Patterson offercd & resolutlon rnluulnfi,‘ «wany to auk whothor Shoss poluts were tecauss ho congideved it hie duty to do 07 | tathe publie,” the #ake of any prudent! Wlconsideration. It was | for the time, the mation for a continuance, wj substsntially tho ones upon which be i3 now pragslon}’ A-ios, ol A.~1 do not romombor that I usod thas word, 'This atundard houso hns ro-catabllshed its Qbicsge Biz, pressod gemml satlafaction, Y may hava mise Q.—Do you kuow whether he understauds, in approbendad Dr, Patterson's quostion, suppos- hother the moton for o | the undevatsnding that, after the tentimony slisll | called in question? A.~They woio somo of | the using of that term, that ke haw & right to | ing, from tho shape of jt, ho meant on the point | {The short-hand reportar's note# ero re- branch at No, 80 Washington stre '35:3‘;‘.’..?335‘.fl%fi?fi‘&'&n‘?fiiflm, have boen hoard {n ull't’o to the othor counts | them. I do not now recolleot \3]&1\ sufliclont dis- | take nutaona parg of tho Diblo which Lin doos nof | 8 lssue. N forred to, pnd it waa found that the word ——— * BIr. MoLeod moved that Prof, Patton haye | ornpecifioations, the motlon, if renowed, sball | tincinoss what those views woro, npr do I just | like, and throw it away, snd seloob sowme athor By Dr. Pattorson~Q.—I meant, whother he | *duty” had boen usod by Mr, Goudy i a differ- Now Pianos for Ront. Jeave tn withdraw the motion, L coneidored. now know all tho points on which ho is called jn | that aulis his views and fuolings botler? A,— | exprossod general satléfaction with tho soymon. | out sonso, 8oo puswer fo firsk questlon in hiv Fiue rosowood cases, carved legs, oto,, eteg No, sir, ¥ nuderstood him to say this—thay, by *¥ golgobl i aut, not $hat he might o+ m"f::m%‘i»“.‘m"e‘n'.“c" wore iuspirod, it r. Lly snid in every court parties were per- | The motion prevalled by quite s decided major- h in their own [ ity. . :1;;"-& d'.lt'Z;" i 1?3:?‘5:";'!&3:‘#,'1?} tn: coun- ,ho!. Patton seked to have his dlesent recorded ? A—1o did, slr; I yomomber that; that is my -nmh&tlnn.] Rent money deducted, if purclssed, improseion, at any rato, ~—How does hio ges that sonee of hia Aty 80 | Reed's Templa of Musto, By M, WAKomME~Qu—DId o (Smiog) es- walbom nd Vi question, N ) ox th b b .“?“:.Yfla‘fy wi 088, h wanz} § ava boen nooloty? A,~I cannob suswor, sir. Corner Dearborn and Van Busen atresta a8 dublous, ~—Forhsps I moy way;