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iw/bomnetning which the Yempiafiation for t Harding in- meeting with gotrmspondents con- meeiiink of the four- lob which was at as a conflict of, wand bene of ideas be-| ‘Secr@tary Hughes and the Th faithiésd’ th) AN’ sides, the facts of the-incidént ought to be stated. Mr. Harding submits twice a week to interrogation by the newspaper correspondents. @iestions in writing and Mr. Har- ding onnjanswer or not as he pleases. » Inquiry, wiaten to the debate Senate as to the true meaning of ‘the preamble of the new .four-power treaty, which reads, “With a view to the preservation of the general peace . nd the maintenance of their rights dn relation to their insular possessions ‘and insular dominions in the region of the Pacific Ocean.” “he query was whether the words Bomeland of Japan. had contended that it did and that Amerita was in effect guaranteeing integrity of Japan when in fact the United States had ,fefused to guarantee anybody else's “territorial integrity under Article X. of the League of Nations covenant. _ ‘The President read the question Senator Reed ‘the territoriat He sald at the outset that Me had not consulted the members of e@he American delegation about: it— “for indeed he*has left to them the 4ask-of working out such problems as “these. He.did know, however, that it ‘was not the intention of the United “Btates to guarantee the territorial in- ity of Japan, and his own su- cial reading of the treaty led him to conclude that.ao such meaning was ea peg imdsnigan as Japan herself ® signatory to.the treaty, and “That ‘obvidusly it was intended only to epafeguard external rights of Japan in the Pacific, apd not. her own domestic any .more. than the United tates was being given a guarantee ‘3 to continental America. Mr. Harding’s views “upon persenal improession and it iv Worth recording that when Sen- Stors Borah and Poindexter first read the treaty they, too, insisted that the inclusion of the Japanese mainland ‘was not intended. ‘however, that for eeveri days the | Sorrespondents have been inquiring be, Son ‘thig point at the Department of _Btate, where Secretary Hughes “frankly told them. that he saw no particular .impertance in the point othey had raised. Ho made it clear “that the phraseology “insular domin- fons was used ¢ ne to cover Aus- were based SE ee it so heppena, London Government has in deat with various parts of the British Empire as to whether they are eim- ply “ponsessions” or whether they eccupy ‘te status of “dominions” or In order, therefore, not to offend Australia and New Zealand, the language “insular dominions” was used, and none of the American dele- when.confronted with the eug- that this might be interpreted include Japan saw any particular im wuch an interpretation, since, all, the purpose of the treaty not to guarantee rights, but merely an. agreement “to respect” other's rights.and in the event ©f a dispute to try to settle the mat- wdatiee te treaty ts ee anton ps teat & a ease ot the feut powers: ‘domly or separately, to meet the exi- gencies of the particular situation.” Ef it\did happen, therefore, TARONGUNANARE RAND BLUNTLY TUS COFERES DEANE S-ON TREATY! _ ON SUBNARIES iit a Washington Sees Only Lack|Premier Makes It Plain That of Co-ordination With the Executive. France Will Insist on a Defensive Navy. that of capital ships. the French Government upon’an adequate defensive fleet, “We Frenchmen.” he added, “nre rotting tired of being told what to do ond what pot to do. If we were mill- tarista, as people say, we have had |! ample time to demonstrate the fact |), in the last two years, Do you know | what the Germans did with us fifty ibs: ngine years ago? They threatened te oc- | if" we failed to meet each indemnity in- | cupy our ‘territory progressively jalment” weapon, and in answer to the remark that the Germans had used them of- fensively, he declared: “Yes, but in considering this ques- tionality of the crew.” of the French submarine budget aa Not been mentioned by Premier Lioyd George at the present meeting, None the tess, the matier of sub- marines emerges as @ cardinal point in the conversations, judging by the second day's developments. French correspondents associated with the French delegation nO longer conceal the fact that M. Briand's prime motive is to pave the way for a Franco-British alliance, the task of salvaging Europe. In bargaining with Mr. Tloyd George the French Premier holds three good cards; namely, the An gora treaty, the Wiesbaden repara- tlon.agreement and submarines. M. Briand wants to take back from Lon- don the promise of = Franco-British union in returm for concessions he 1s bound to makété England. This has already bees, manifested in the French agreement to meet Soviet representatives and French willing- ness to overhaul the reparation agreo- ment. . Yesterday's conversations were re- stricted almost exclusively to the problem ‘of making Germany pay the next two instalments, upon which France insists. {0 this connection it should be understood two sets of} conversations are going on; the first between Lioyd George and Briand, | which is political, and the other pe+ tween Chancellor of the Excheyuer Horne and Louls Loucheur, which is financial. The first two find it tolerably easy to get together, but when Loucheur and Horne are asked to work out the political ideals of their principals they run again and again upon the rocks. Little progress has been made re- garding the method which ts to be resorted to to make Germany pay, ‘The French insist a receiver be put in Berlin before the question of a mora- torium is even approached. The Brit- ish, on the other hand, are all for summoning a grand European confer- ence at which this and other matters will be frankly debated. ——@——_—__ WANT U. S: TO RATIFY MUNITION CONVENTION British Would Like to Stop Ship- ments of War Material. WASHINGTON, Dec. 21 (Associated Press).—Were the United States to ratify the convention which Frank Polk signed in its name in St. Germain, France, in September, 1919, to prevent the ehipment of war material from one country to another. as a means to in- suring peace, British Arms Conference delegates believe a long stop would be taken toward attaining one of the eb- jects of the conference, ‘The British have in mind the posst- bility that large stocks of material for warships might be shipped out of a country party to limitation of arma- ments agreement into another country to build ships and equip armica. ——SSS Australia and New Zealand, so as to make the treaty satisfactory to the | he considered the present conference| ment by the consent of the governed, British Empire, or making 1t impos- sible for England to abrogate the Anglo-Japanese alliance, which dgemed by the United States to be u serious ménace. In.the desire to please Austrélia to and New Zealand and also not Taise AN “issue wolch -might offend Japan and cinbarrass tie whole con feresgte, the Amvrican delogation azreed to the’Prench and British: interpreta- tion that “insular dominions” doing so the United States probably felt that it was not compelled to use in that re- gard than in relation to any other physioal force any more islands jn the Pacific. Nea) question of how far the treaty imposes a moral obligation which might ultimately in any case involve applies ly well to an attack on the Phil- ippines as any other islands included in the treaty, so the addition or sub- of Japan's mainiand position, which happens by accident to be an island, is regarded by the American delegation as simply an incidental af- fair which doesn't affect the merits uae of physical force of the treaty. wre elas LONDON, Dee. 21.—Premier Briand, in an interview here to-day, made {t plain that France would not yleld on the submarine treue as she had on He added that would inaist THE EVENING WORLD, ‘WEDNESD ROMA'S TRIP BACK TO HANGAR DELAYED BY STORM WARNING raclipeibieas Christened in Washington Af- ter Twice Shifting and Brushing Speakers Aside. WASHINGTON, Dec. 21.—The semi- rigid dirlgible Roma, the largest Amer- ican airship, arrived over Washington shortly before noon to-day on her first long distance flight after having been Premier Briand went on to Insist | the submarine was not an offensive tion you must bear in mind the na- | M, Briand added that the question | intimately | Afterward both powers will take on |), eaid, brought to the United. States from Italy and réassembled at Langley Pied, Va. The dirtgihie appeared over the Capitol from the southeast more han two i behind her scheduted ival. 1 wag evident thdt she was hen ducking a heavy head wind, While no ‘official explanation of delay had been received by offi cis here, it was understood thet trouble was the pring! cause. Three; or possibly tour of the ee atx Breat motors weres ding al ac to unoffielal orts, and the trip from Langley ield was made on the remaining MavBronescele toe” Colne boys, The above photo shows Miss urship, y Schvenholtz leading the cheering. Major Gen. Patrick, head of the Air Confirms Statement That War Was Service am The Weather Bur Given as Alternative to stating 't \ storm appeared prob- i ably jater in the day, and after con- Signing of Treaty. sultation with Major Jobn G. ‘Thor- nell, commander of the Roma, it was BELFAST, Dec. 31 (Associated lecided met what had been planned Press.)—“I stand by everything I : firnt if of the stip said,” declarea Robert C, Barton to ed and the return ~ PEACE DEPEN [trip to Langle id be made as soon as possib d contemplated a flight over Washington and to Bal- timoge with a number of high offi- clals #8 passengers, As soon as the Roma was hauled (Continued From First Page.) flown Gen, Patrick presented Ambas- sador R 1 of Italy to a gathering of aan invited sue: ate in the cents of ue began his argument in, favor of the field, near the mooring spot, and 1e 7 a Amoassador made an oanasn: for- treaty, saying he made no apology mally senting the ship to the] for signing the pact, bit felt that he United States, As-|was bound to drive home to the inwright | minds of the Irish people the circum- ae reriniie. {he} stances under which the signatures lirigible as a dal evidence of | Were “extorted.” the friendship existing between this Duffy said the Dail must be given country and Italy.” Immediately after the addressas, which were interrupted twice by the shifting of the dirigible int. the group of speakers and guests, Miss Fonrose Wainwright, daughter of the Assistant ary of War, mounted small ladder at the bow and broke bottle of jiquid air on the bottom of the gas b saying: “I hereby dedi- cate this airehip to the servicg of the United States.” It had been planned to use a free balloon as a Christening stand, but a strong wind made it in- advisable. LINDENFELD NAMES SIX ACCOMPLICES IN BOMB CUTRAGE a rational alternative to the treaty before rejecting It. “My heart is with those opposing it, but my reason is against them,” he exclaimec. ‘The tresty, he declared, must be ratified in the interests of the people | of Ireland. Duff. contended Iretand could omit the King’s head from the coins of the Irish Free State and could abol- ish the Union Jack, and-that in fram- ing their constitution the Irish people should put the King “into exterior darkness" as far as possible. Going over the events that occurred in London Dee, 4 and 5, leading up to the reaching of the agreement, he sald Prime Minister Lloyd George had issued an ultimatum requiring the signatures to the treaty of all the delegates under the threat of {mme- diate war, They helleved that this time Mr. Lloyd George was not bluff- (Continued From First Page.) ing. It was, as the Prime Minister's Lo eden official organ declared, “a grim Viurns head of the Sectet Service, de- | Cholee: clined this morning on his return] ONLY THREE HOURS TO SIGN, DUFFY CHARGES. Duffy read from this morning’s newspapers the semi-official denial from London that the treaty had calopinente’ been signed under duress. He said Burns conferred ‘briefly with At-{the complaint was not that the al- torney General Daugherty im the| ternative to a treaty was war, but noon, and it was understood the |that war was the alternative to this Lindenfeld arrest was one of ‘the | Particular treaty, and that the Irish matters discussed, At the office of | delegates had boon given three hours the Attorney General it was said |to reach a decision, without reference that any statement from that official |/t® the Home Government, under the from New York to make further com= ment on the Lindenfeld case. “There is nothing T can say at this time,” he “I am awaiting certain de- foi &t this time would be premature. No| Penalty “of letting loose fresh hor- comment was obtainable as to the|'@rs of savages to trample, torture nature of errors said to have been|®"4 crucify Ireland.” made in transmitting the original re- Mr. Duffy said he recommended the port on the arrest and confession | treaty reluctantly bat sincerely, be- from Waniaw. cause he caw no alternative, The| treaty was not utterly valueless, bu! | “ it was not payment in full. He added | FRANCE MUST HAVE that tne treaty gave real power tor 9 se first time and that Ireland would HER SUBMARINES o in a better position to retain that ouee and’ resist aggression than Viviani Devlares It Imperative on |ever before, even though the present His Arrival From Arms Con- treaty inflicted an indignity upon was | in- cluded the mainland of Japan, byt in Irishmen by thrusting an English ference, King upon them. HAVRE, Des. 21—France must| Duffy said he agreed with Lord) have submarines, Rene - Viviani,|Grey that no peace with Ireland was French delegate to the Waehington| possible except on equal terms, but Arms Conference, declared upon his|before the treaty could be rejected arrival here to-day aboard the French|some possible alternative should be Mmer Paris from New York. produced, and he saw none. “Our colonial interests make tt tm-| He said a solid basis of principle perative,” he said. He was asked if} was found in the formula of govern- as being of a preliminary nature, and that the people were entitled to "I do not think disarmament will] have the treaty ratified. be accomplished until all nations have] “Phe treaty should be ratified un- collaborated,” he answered, “and have] der protest, but ratify it you must,” made known thelr opinions. he declared. “L think France cannot engage her-| Deputy James J, Walsh, who spoke self as long as sho ts not assured that| next, said the report printed in news- Germany—a formidable producer of|papers here this morning that he had) chemical products—has given all guar-|asked members of the Datl not to de vntees for epssation of the manufac-|scribe Mr. De Valera as “President ture of asphyxiating gases, was unfounded. Speaker John Mac- “France has registered diplomatic] Neill eonfiemed the member. success because the questions decided] Mr. Walsh read a letter from Mrs, in Washington were regulated in the}Terence MacSwiney, widow of the best interests of Franc late Lord Mayor of Cork, who gave up Regarding smaller submarine .gnits, | his life in a hunger strike in Brixton ho declared it was incontestable that | prison last year, in which the writer Chosen Official Cheer Leader For the Morris High School: | © mpelled to pay under the arbitration | clause, y, DECEMBE Migs Sadie Schventoltz has been chosen ax oficial cheer leader of the Morris High School after competition with another girl student and seven DS ON RATIFICATION sny that the supporters of the treaty had many letters from women whose husbands were killed during the ‘fight- ing. Prof. Stockley of Cork University, formerly of Canada, opposed the treaty ‘n an impassioned speech. He said that whatever there was of English- man he was ashamed of the Britisa conduct regarding the treaty revealed by George Gavan. Duffy. Deputy Whelan of Galway support- ed the treaty, saying he agreed with Dr. Patrick McCartan as a Republi- can doctrinaire (referring to Dr. Me- Cartan’s speech yesterday in which he declated the republic had been aban- doned in Dublin before the delegates crossed to London), but that he felt bound to deliver ‘the country from chaos, Deputy Whelan was declaiming on the importance of the control of edu- cation accorded by the treaty whon Mr. De Valera tartly interrupted him with the words: “Education based on dishonor. You will take an oath you don't mean tu keep.” Arthur Griffith protested against what he said were “these constant interruptions” of speakers favoring the treaty, while his side Interrupied nobody. Deputy Wheilxn, proceeding, sald Ireland would have the same right as Canada to declare independence. DUGGAN EXPLAINS WHY HE SIGNED TREATY, David Kent of East Cork, one of whose brothers was ‘executed in 1916 and another sentenced to penal servi- tude, opposed the treaty. He said that under it Mr. De Valera, who had been freely elected President of the Republic, would have to make way for some English Lord as Governor General, They could have no idea what Irish taxation would be, he autded, because they did not know what part of the British debt they might be Eamon J. Duggan, !n ‘explaining the circumstances In which he sign. 2. the treaty, sald he was convinced he had acted in accordance with the wishes of the people who had elected him. He asked what the plenipoten- tiarles ‘Were sent to London for. Were they sent to ask for recognition of the Irish Republic or to compromise the question? he inquired. There was no asternative. “There is,” interjected De Valera. “I think I know what the President means,” rejoined Duggan. “He means external association, which, it means anything, is that we were to ask for recognition a8 a republic pre- Paratory to making an alliance.” To this Mr. De Valera cried, “Hear! Hear!” “Then you say you sent us to ask for recognition of the Irish Repubite,” Duggan returned. He argued that this view was in- consistent with thg history of the ne- gotiations. They had not brought back a bagful of sample treaties from which, they could choose, he pointed out. ‘They must take this treaty or leave it, and he urged its advantages. IRISH ARMY NOT REQUIRED TO TAKE OATH. ‘The Irish Army, for one thing, was not obliged to take the oath of allegi- ance to the King, he declared. If, under the treaty, the Irish people did not aclfieve freedom, it would be their France, like England, needs an im- portant tonnage to assure close touch | declared acceptance of the treaty with her colonies. would be a-great mistake and “a great oe tridmph for the enemy.” SLAYER OF POLICPMAN DTS OF) GripFiTH JOINS COLLINS IN WOUNDS, Williams, the negro, Who shot PROTEST. ais killed Police Officer Herman K,| Michael Collins jumped up at this Emmons at Long Branch, N. J., on Sat-] and wal urday, died to-day in Lake| “Out of our great teapect for the Hospital of bullet t wounds received, while na, | dead, we have refrained from reading fleeing {1 niet Welt pol Long Bratch ste letters we have received from m Ghiet Wellin, day that he had sever Willamns's sot we wee be tives of the dead—but we have them” remains very artber Sa slap -teenerenes #9. ‘Artivor Geist, own fault not that of the treaty, “The outcome of the vote on the question of ratification is still tm doubt. Claims of the opposing fac- tions range from @ majority of two against the treaty to ten in its favor. ‘The majority either way will be small, according to the political cor- spondent of the Freeman's Journal, who warns hie readers that “It cannot be maie too plain that the situation grave.” ond is suyporions that, if the Irish plenipotentiarics had acted under duress, it must have been the duress of their own minds, There bad been no eleventh hour declartion on the part of the Premier. It added, however, that, “inasmuch as the well known alternative to av- ceptance was war, there is an ele- Mr, Barton).” ciated Press on Monday George Seized in Their Homes and Taken BRITISH DELEGATES the police say, are known to firet two named having R 21, 1921. are directing their efforts toward making clear thelr bellef that the choice to be taken is not between the status provided in the treaty and that of an independent Irish Repub- Mc. They contend that Hamon De Valera’s alternative proposals, which have not yet been made public, differ only in a@ slight degree from the terms of the treaty. * Warmly supporting the advocates of ratification the Irish Independent this morning says: “In Heaven's name let Ireland take the substance and not dissipate her energies in discussing shadows.” Both the Independent and the Frep- man's Journal feature the compar!- son of the oath of allegiance pro- vided for in the treaty and the oath which it Is said Mr. De Valera pro- poses,” Both ‘newspapers in their captions refer to the’ two oaths as “tweedledum and tweedledee.” The Freeman's Journal asserts: “Government with the consent of the governed and self-determination of peoples have vanished with ‘the Kepublican creed. That Ireland should be thrown into war upon such gons- amer issues and differences is ao criminal propositien. Ganity must prevail.” BARTON STANDS BY CHARGE OF THREAT BY LLOYD GEORGE the correspondent this morning when shown the semi-official statement is- sued in London denying Lloyd George had coerced the Irish plenipotentiaries through a threat of war, as stated by Mr. Barton in the Dail Eireann. Mr, Barton was a member of the Sinn Fein delegation which signed the treaty. Premier The London statement declared or that of circumstances. ment of truth In the statement (by A Dublin despatch to the Asso- quoted Mr. Barton as saying in the Dall that Arthur Griffith had repeatedly Eort to have the terms referred back t the Dall, but that Premier Lioya had directly ee ae this. He said the Premier declared the signature of every member of the delegation necessary, or war would follow at once, and gave them until 10 o'clock that night to make up thelr minds. 15 MEN KIDNAPPED BY ARMED BANDS IN LONDONDERRY to Secret Destination by Strange Raiders. BELFAST, Dec. 21 (Assooiated Press)—Armed gangs operating in the Limavady district of London- derry took fifteen men from their homes yesterday, removing them to an_unknown destination. borhood. The authorities are pussied by the kidnapping. DELAY THEIR SAILING Think There Is Small Chance ef Conference Being Over Befere Jan, 15. WASHINGTON, Dec. 31 (Associated Press.)--The British delegation to- day cancelled reservations it had made on a steamer sailing from New York on Dec. 31. It was stated members of the dele. gation think there is little chance of their being able to leave before the men, No. 7163 Quinby and a) brother Morrie, a fe" Jettereon Bat Market ‘court. AH th “4 the Bing. _—_—— EEE Colo. M’GOWAN.—At Atlantic Oxy, Dea. 30, 1921, RICHARD J. MGOWAWN of 492 In the atronsio to secure ratifoation | S6CeeGeseeenesoenaceaaseeseneccosecencenencesoonees LATEST IRISH NEWS Forgan “An Tpotndns Oothan” nfor mo nuadacta Erpeann na sons pApedy ette 1n PTATAID AON-TUHuItes (TRANSLATION FROM THE “The Evening World spreads more news of Ireland than any other paper in these United States.” FPOFOPSIIVISISISS BETISETESSSITS IIT SIPS TOS OI SIS OSE ——_—————— = \HARVEY CONFERS WITH BRIAND AGAIN FE BANDITS STAGE ‘DARE HOLDS NAR FE STN (Continued From First Page.) Fur ther Explains French Viewpoint on Submarines and Small Craft, 21 (Associated Preas), ,| George Harvey, the Briand of Fr Jated the Fre: Or two of the- customers started to raise their hands. “Keep your hands down—down! | Dumbells!" snapped ono of the gun- men, obviously realizing that men with raised hands would betray the hold-up to passers-by in the street; the windows of the wagon are clear glass. One hundred and fifty dollars was taken from the cash register and $187 from a wallet in which Smith had his Christmas money. The two paused as they went down the steps to the street and called back: “Merry Christmas and Happy ‘The customers, who had not been molested, said “Thanks.” ‘The third robbery, secondary war craft omic affairs also wer: ——>__. KAPP REVOLT GETS VON JAGOW 5 YEARS Commissioner Berlin Is Sentenced for Part apparently com- at the Thompson Lunch, No. near 25th Street, atalittle after’ 3 o'clock. There were no cus- | s tomers in the restaurant. walked in from a_ taxicab, two in the car. cashier's desk where A. J. night cashier, They went to the and a waiter standing, drove them away from the | cash drawer by with their revolvers and took about $200 from the cash drawer. the waiter gave no alarm until the cab was out of their hearing. | AGES Seton SUBMARINES MUST GO, SAYS DANIELS, They Are More Dangerous to Peave | Than Dreadnoughts, Former Navy Secretary Declares. CHARLOTTE, N. C., Dec. 21.—Un- less the submarine is destroyed “root and branch,” an agreement reacted for reduction of land armaments, andi | ~ the aircraft problem solved, Washington Conference will } failed to “live up to its full duty and privilege,” Josephus Daniels, Secretary of the Navy, an address last night Chariette Rotary Club. The only progress made tow. i! armament reduction, deen in the case of the dreadnous and during the World W “dreadnought, Advt. on page 12 oe to Advertisers : be made Fooeli’d by ‘Thursday uo0n. strength, was tied up in patho ‘The submarine, was a greater factor in the Wor. ‘War than all the capital ships, wii ‘bombing planes, he predicted, will the greatest danger in any possible cua ® Daniels said, | ‘and positire releass