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6 THRILLING WAR EXPERIENCES SHOW HOWBOXERS MAKEGOOD Frank Slavin, Veteran Fighter and Rival of John L., in the Trenches atSixty-two, Stood Up Under Bullet and Got | His Man—Bob McCarty’s Fist Won Out In Night Clash With Germans—Mike Donovan's Civil War Dash for a Drink of | Water. . | ee EVENING WORLD, SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 1918. BEST SPORTING PAGE IN NEW YORK ‘itt vow ms Coprrlght, 1018. by the Press Poblishing Oo, (The New York Evening World) © boxers make good In war? D Listen to this story of Frank Slavin, I had it from a wounded Canadian soldier just back from the trenches—a boy who enilated in Biavin’s rogiment, the 16th Cana- dian Scottish, who was with Slavin through the fighting, was with him io @ bospital, and finally wae sent home on the same hoapital ship that carried the old lion of the | prize ring. | When Slavin went to tho war he wae sixty-two years of ago, but he admatted only forty-ono years to the Tecrulting sergeant, and got away’ with {t, for he was a wonderful spe- cimen of a man. Well over etx fect tall, Slavin is, and as straight as en Indian. Stripped, he looks fit to fight any one even to-day, and he was tn hie prime when John L. Sullivan was @ Foungster. In those days Slavin was one of the London prizo ring’s | sreatest heavywelght champions, and he camped close on Sullivan's trail for @ year or more without getting @ match. I have it on the authority of no! Jess noted a man than Prof. Mike Donovan, who was as close to Sullivan | @8 any ono, that Slavin was the one white man Sullivan didn’t care to fight. A magnificent veteran was Slavin@—————________ | when he went to the war. But for bia white hair and his white mus-|fionin Liliye Sits bene ame yas taohe be looked like a husky Yukon| Angeles, miner, rather than @ maa who had Pe 6 bag i the tront line trenches © night, whero the outposts of his oe ee ee Te crate seatkitg na] fesiment rubbed elbows with a, Cox ney outfit. They called him ‘Mac, ap engineer in the Arctic wilderness | knowing him by for nearly (wonty years. He bad a} wus Mo Geep voice and @ square cut Nehting| by name Mon Jaw that was always thrust forward|tieth passed close by Lilly and said @ dit, ond hands that swung nearly) "Mac, wo are going over for a Little! to his knees, visit. Want to xo along?” And #0, Slavin went to England with the! quite info Sil Cukacian, Rectan, baa trained sy Nivalaine pace found himeelf na it And thts Mon at Salisbury Plains for a time, and then went to France for two months’ | ,,Jt was 8 fogsy sort of a night and More conditioning, and then was Noe. The step ud long the Fushed into the hottest fighting In . raiding party crawled) Belgium, Th i, obance for a commission by this time verge and through the German wire. because of his knuck of handling men, Whee eee Ks Git uant prt shay enlisted back in Victoria. trench, and silently they flung them- So one black night seven months| ives on the men they found there, Py with hands that gripped at German later found Frank Slavin out in a) \ith Bonet ‘ front (ine trench, with the Germana|‘hroate and | knives that alipped pressing hard in their drive for the Aiawics chef hod Iona a In a fow gee, and no one know!ng what «night | ‘i aiipee wae pene png Mn ite and quite ae much at home| O¥@t ito the next trench . section, ! congratulating themselves that they $F aver he did under the Auroral yaa not been hoard—that there had They were working hard that| eM no alarm, And then, with a night, strength: sudden rush in the blackness of the 5 thening the narrow, half. *udden rush ‘finished trench they had been sant Mich tell siten tho from the next forward to occupy, Blavin was at it| ection fell upon them. | with the rest, lifting bags of sand to) “I had just turned around,” says build up the parapet, He'd loan over, Tally, tolling of It, “and 1 bad fost ny grasp a heavy bag and toss it up! Ww rd a trampling rush, into place. Hag after bag, never| 4nd all of a sudden the Germans were wearying, he did his share of the|on us, I could seo a face coming at| he < + aN ck 0} i i "Wise, just as Slavin titted a bag|my bare fat, wih all my night g| OMe inesteoe Beet ayer got iat ot ie Been a iS Big League Career for a Most Prom- ising College Pitcher. and straightened to full helght In tho | Always waa a heavy hitter, but 1} darkness, some one struck a tateh|hever put 60 much into a blow before | to ight a fag. Slavin's head waa|in my iife. 1 hit that ¢ above the ground level or perhaps|ly between the eyes, and he went posite a loophole. For an instant|down. I often wonder what his face! Gis lean faco and his white mustache| looks Ike, For I didn't mest aolid stood out strongly in the glow. There| bone, yet I amashed my hand as if ‘was the Infinitely short, abrupt whiz-|! had struck a stone wall. Seo this sing sound of a rifle bullet, and a@/lump? I broke that knuckle tons man square- found like that of a butcher's cleaver] across. Some blow! I heard Mon- striking bone. tleth callin, ‘Buick to me, bos Blavin's bag of sand slipped from| then tt was just a free for all unul! hie hands and fell across bis feet, He} Wo fought ourselves clear. The Ger- wood upright, motionless in the dark-| mans gaye bick—-thoso that were left ness, For @ jong minute he atood| and we hauled two of our woun: there. And then one of the men] out of the trench and got away 4 atepped to hin side. the fo, | “What's the matter, Frank?’ he| And Mike Donovan was telling me asked. ot hit, are you?" @ war etory—Mike Donovan, worid's Slavin rained Lie right hand slowly.|middlewelght champion forty yeurs He wore heavy gauntlets, and, rub-|ago and the inan who boxes with bing the back of it across his fore- | Presidents, | head, peercd steadily at itin the dim| It was a Civil War etory—Mike starlight. He didn't answer, but|fought through four long years whon stood there, swaying a Ittle on his|he was a boy wide-spread feet. Then he took off] Unlike the others, Mike's story was Mila cap, brought the edge of tt across |told with a laugh—just aa a rather| his eyebrows and jammed it of | humorous Femin : | tightly. a struck HOW Mike Donovan The whizzing bullet ; him just in front of the left temple], x and had ploughed actors his fore- Got a Drink. head, following the curve of the} ayy, “ A . frontal bone, but not crushing] iy were away down South," Mike through. lt wae a terrific, stunning “ld, “and we had our trenclus btreteh- blow. ing out for miles over bill and valley, @llently Slavin turned and began oe the Confederate trenches were to climb out of the trench and over |"éht Blong In front of us and not the parapet. Another man caught |Yery fir wway, 2 never call them him by the ehoulder, only to be| ‘Iebels,’ for they were just as good shaken off. Men as we were, aud they fought for “Wot's got into you?” he demanded. | What they thought was right just as “are you gone crazy?” wo did, Glavin drew himself over the para- There were some mighty pretty pet and turned his head. shots over thero in the Confederate “Bither I'm not coming back,” he! trenches, and, believe me, they made growled, “or I'll bring a pal with me." [it bot for us." You couldn't stick your FRANK Staves BROUGHT IN THE SHARPSHOOTER, Who WOUNDED HIM , is ring name, whic | rty, There was an officer, | | | Coprrignt, 1 LILLY, Boxer Beat Bayonet r INA TRENCH RAID. ey had offered Slavin a|®¢rose No Man's Land with utront |-——— White Captures Billiard Title For Second Time j;men that WHERE SOME BOXERS MAKE GOOD ¢ I’'ress Publishing Co, (The New York Evening World). Old Champion Owed His Popularity to “Knockout Tour,” Which Netted Him $180,000. by the Prom I w Yora World CHAPTER XVIIL FIAT ia generally known as the greatest “knockout tou: in the history of pugilism began on Sept. 27, 1883, following my victory over Slade, the half-breed Maort from New Zealand. On that spectacular tour, which was arrangod by Al Smith, one of the squarest sporting © world ever knew, I fought in 154 cities throughout the United States and British Columbia. Charics White, the veteran Brook- lyn amateur, retained his title in the names at hand, but for lack of space National Class B 18.2 bililard cham-| wij1 omit them here. Mr. Smith of- pDionship yesterday at the New York fered on my behalf the sum of $1,000 Athletic Club with @ decisive victory for any man that would stand be over Charles Mathews in the final ‘no for four ro White first won the title in Altogether {t was White's banner day in the tournament. defeated George T. Moon jr. Presi- dent of the National Association of | Amateur Bilitard F ternoon game. pointe to 1 He met and ayers, in the af- ‘The score was For this competition the champion made an average of 620-30, with higb runs of 26, 26 and 20. Tn the night match Wht Mathews by the score of 209 By Bruce Copeland {TY-THREE years ago dete to one of Yale's great tory barred t opened the door leading to succ On the same day vic- pitcher Amherst ever had. all pitchers, to the greatest Tdoyd (Duckie) Thomas was the winner—Nick Carter the loser, homas, while the mighty Carter suc foreed to retire, of his former athletlo prowess gone for- » town of Lancaster, him of what might bh. Class B records, tournament wi the victory marked hia e championship honora ssed {nto his permanent pos: id average for th thout meoting defeat: Aa party frat. If be no cup 18 a showing I would give him a to get a hit or run from foemen in th mbed to als rr or Columb! dent, who ever, is now lying quietly former Columbiu stu but remorse and When alone with when he turned Yale bac “L always wished that I could hi ! © over thoge days perhaps I'd be in ¢ and prosperity.” Hoston Natlor na flatterin stiff right arm to remind lores, Thomay bemoans out @ hit or run, a brand av 1 } White and Mathews roiled the! 7 was freque game,” ts his sorrowful | ivory globes for clos big leagues atroke became feathery Im {ts de: When Bobby to look at the Thomas had plenty of mon disappointed suffered financial reverses and bh als went over to Amhers youngster he back to Boston | his deft draw and cushion s solved by @ masteriul us | glorious defeat and won sey years he has been high in public affairs, but Duckie Thomas has all he can do to eke out @ living, ral important victortes tor he |TENNIS CHAMPIONS LOSE IN MATCH OF SURPRISES. W. Dickson littons of the game when they defeated Fred Alex- William Rorenb: Joe Wood munt | iin way to curb smoke nutsance, No wonder the U. Frane!s Outmet back It took him two years to pitch out of the professional nnls/tatked of meeting Su | was before the Maori went against \ Armory by_ti , 6—0, While Alexan ner were #tar gazing at the armory dec ragin was busy for polnte that » Oldring {s about to return > #lgn Rube Waddell, er and his part- He crawled away tnto the darkness, |bead up without getting your hat out through the wire. knocked off, and lucky if it wasn't 4 worse, How Slavin 1, Down where wo were it was mighty au + " | hot, and wo didn't have a d ‘Got His Man. water left. We knew that over Hal an hour later there was a|ridge a few hundred yards away there souffling sound on the edge of the|was a spring, but there was open trench, and the men, leaping up, saw | ground between and we couldn't pet dim figures looming aguinat the blye- | to it lack sky. Blows and a kick and a| “Gosh, it was hot! man in German uniform fell headlong| “After a while we couldn't stand it into the trench, and Slavin leaped |any more, and so we drew straws to down after him. Without @ word he|see who Would make a run for it picked the German up by the neck,/and try to get to that spring and atood bim against the trench wall,| bring back some water. 1 drow the and knocked him down with a heavy straw and {t was up to me, plow on the jaw. Then, as ff there n't feel noar as thirety after was nothing more to be done, be king of all those sharp. walked away to go back to the dress- , but I took elght canteens, ing station, and tled them to mo, an ine Ln wos @ sharpshooter, |and ran for it + and jumped up who had been up tn a tree somewh: | “l never was any Dan Kelty, b out in front of the English trench. |covered some ground that Phares How Slavin, crawling silently out like} record time. The bulleta whistled by an Indian hunter, had found him, and|and kicked up a lot of dust, and f how he got him out of the tree, no | dodged and ran until my tongue hung one ever know. For Slavin never|out and I didn't have a breath lett tn told. Slavin was sent buck to Bighty|me, and I got over that ridge. Then to @ hospital. And not long after-|T was out of range and all right. T ward he Was given bis discharge and | started down to the spring, and there wee shipped home to Canada, where] was a buncl of men sitting around it. be ts now busy working for the|Our men, you know, of gome big construction work in the]it to get water. Believe me, we rat on. around that spring and got well There is @ story, too, of an Ameri-| cooled off before we went back, I got cam boy who went to the war In @|back all right, I think that was the Ceoadian regiment, He was a pro-|hardest work a man ever did to get a And there wasn't fessional boxer at the age of nineteen, | drink of wate: wheo he enlisted, and was a grown!any stick tn It, either.” OUR OWN HISTORY CLASS. Columbus woul jewelry if he had d nad some excuse for h AVONIA A. C. WILL TAKE CARE OF SOLDIER MEMBERS. | four of its members| that after four rounds are over I j will get up and say qh had some punch to st When Lee gave his #word to have held out for 40 per | avonia Athletic Club of Greenwich Vil- oldest clubs of ita kind | C48 will hold a big vaudeville | “1 rep) xington Theatre, Alex. Hamilton might have led the learue nto the way of Burr's fast it he hadn't got da will go to ra with comforts and tr dependents. he show. More than ready been disposed Ben Bolt has found Sweet Alice at last. t |the soldier m ter Garden. |{'n00 tlekote bh. Ty Cobb will play centre fi and the Fourth of July swap berths WHEN FRIENDSHIP CEASES. You can knock out a fighter, elope with his wi jor hia dough dnd call hom wil the names in the ¥ vou don't insult Ais gate reocipta. YES HE DOES??? In the spring the big league player feels a deep and gnawing pain when he shakes tho uncut hemlock on a solid Pullman train, And he eoowls from out the window at the Mason-Dixon | time the Pullman po'tah tolls him when it's time to dine, anaes | viger Swimmers Neat Columbia, on the other |won the water ‘ors ‘in thelr own pool in ov from other parts Penn Wins Basketball Title, Government as an engineer in charge | of the line, They'd all made a run for PHILADELPHIA | Headed by the ever elusive and clover ew Martin, Penn basketball players night in Wright. Yall and scored an easy 27 to 12 Bxtra-inning eames are always weleome if y defeated Cornell I knocked out 160 men. I have thelr unds, Nobody won it, ‘That tour netted us the immense sum of $180,000. Unitke the champions of to-day Lb & sweeping accepted by ‘ed nobody, but issued nallenge that could be any man who felt so dis- od. Toh always believed that at popu I have to-day ts due to that triumphal tour. My company was m bert Slade, the Maorl; Stev ylor Pote McCoy and Mike Gillesp! They were all good fighters, 1 occasion often arose when some fel low wanted to fight me, but was lack- ing in physi consent I would let him fight McCoy or one of the sm of my in mak- de up of Her- chanes. [ did not wish to kill any- body, and I took @ ution t prevent 4 an unfortunate acc: took TRUTH ABOUT MACE AND HIS CHALLENGE. tly challenged by Jem Mace, one time great fighter, but all of his propositions were side yr reasons that 1 wi will do so In the wor following stat Smith throw considerable the pub We were tn Cincinnati when a re- porter came to Mr. Smith and asked why ho had not accepted the chal- of Mace, which looked very good on pape “Here is the truth of the matter,” eald Mr, Smith, “When Mace was here before L was his firm, fast friend, and was his umpire when he faced Coburn in Canada, Until I saw Sullivan I thought he was the best man in the world, When Mace first ivan, which ght on the early f faking him, he came to mo and sald: Sullivan, but I don’t want to be knocked’ out, It would break my fix {t up so I won't.” “L told him it was no use to talk to Sullivan on this subject, but he urged saying Won't you seo him and tell him ia the best e coming man I ever met and champion? him on the dead square?) Wea can pack Madison Square Garden at $2 4 ticket for common seats. It will hold $20,000, and suppose you do got knocked out, we Will eplit the receipts tn two and you will bave $10,000 for our troubl f Ho asked mo to give him until next day to think tt over, and he did so Tho next night he met moe and urged st up thetr pace in the Inter-| me to seq Sullivan about his proposi- {ate Swimming League when thoy Jeasily defeated Columbia by @ score of 43 to 10 in the Brokaw Memortal Poot ‘The Blue and and, claimed they tlon, as it would break bis heart to be knocked out. ‘To oblige him | went to Boston, where Sullivan was and delivered Mace's message, say- in as I did 60: ‘ Yow, do as you please about ft. here Is only one thing I will do about it,’ answered Sullivan, ‘and do the same. All I have ever made hag been by doing this, and £ won't quit to oblige Mr. Mace. “When asked {f b ngland! ody Bank of thereby virtually clinching Golf traineth the eye, etrengthenoth the mu the Intercollegiate League champton- 9 and whetteth the ‘After Sullivs Maco resumed his ¢ & » \é@ay I met bim and said: ‘em, you JOHN L. ISULLIVANS STORY OF HIS LIFE have meet him with would ing with gloves any s | young men whe | boxing he walting to a noted aa lowa the theatre the hotel and bege r fight to cor al build. If he would | at my que | knocked out “'T want to meet this young fellow, | heart if 1 was. Now, I want you to| | on this subject | the point of th the spinal column, 1: ‘Jom, why not go against | foe of numbness o ders him non c tne being. training for his fight with the Maori, | t is I will do my best and let him | would moet) Sullivan then, he sald: ‘Not for the} ar or two no one will be- that he was the won- d his lenge to meet “Don't mind what I say or do; T make same money, and this he bi Way to do It’ 9 to be on the square.” d any objection to meet ng, hea 1 never » for I appr Jon as one hich I on sta that rey the man. Th ongest man in the exhibition a don me a » tears in her eye: was tho mo: “Well, t r husband a great fighter?” I aske r ‘Oh, yes, t * she aaid, “he can whip anybod T you do not wish me me d in surprise, “Why,” sh us If astonished i Why, Mr. Fullivan, will kill hildren to grow up and father was a murderer.” 1 good one on me. I put the blacksmith out r 1 bellev ned he wo 4 HOW A MAN FEELS WHEN PUT TO SLEEP, “What gre the sensations of a man & knocked out?” T at is *® question that has been|men who loved the little fello ys directed at me I have al- T have taken occasion to give this; subject considerable atud land I wit une jduestion as beat I can, Notwithstanding the various opin- | fons to the contrary, I etill at the most vulnerable Part of al | man's body is the point of the jaw. | | A hard blow on the point of the jaw will render a man unconscious and at the same time will not effectually weaken him otherw » how rtake to answer the T have consulted many physicians and they tell*me nw is conn and the as that felt by a pe 2 under the influence o is coming out of It as nor ya s which ren- ApOS mentis for the To verify that I al insta n mention sev- AVS Po- plains » asked Various questions howing an absolute lack of ac- quaintance with Ir surroundings. llow at Nashville, 1 out, cam instance, one f p., that T knock in California came to me and asked: {"When do I go on OLD KING BOOZE HITS HARDEST BLOW OF ALL. The after effect of a man Ddeing n beat the Maort,| knocked out Is not at all serious. It allenges. One! leaves no mark or lasting damage, There is anotber knock-out, how- | McGovern family over its sudden loes|) } and words of homage for Terry—onee || | | | to love to Nght—in « rush, HONOR TO MEMORY OF TERY MOVER } The Former Lightweight} Champion Is Best Remem-) bered as One Who Wa: From all over the country come expressions of sympathy to the Terribie Torry—who has fol! John L. Sullivan, Bob Fitzsimmona! Les Darcy and other great figh' who have taken the final count the jast few months, The sport world unites in paying its respects to the memory of one of the gamest men who ever stepped inside the ropes—a little fellow who In his heyday would scrap his weight In wildcata, Terry Mc o died in Kings County Hospital yerterday of acut indigestion after only five days 6 illness. The former champion wen’ out practically the samo way he w Terry McGovern had been M only tew days, The doctors In attendance the hospital, however, realli that ‘Terry's end was not far off when he was brought to them. ‘Terry's friends were! greatly alarmed over his condition, of health when he went to Camp Upton recently to referee a few boxing for the soldiern stationed there, ‘Terry got aa far as the officers’ quar- ters and then fainted. He was put to bed and the next day sent home. accept our proposition. ting to be an oid man, 1 will have any chance van. You had better ) while n, He > moet SI anon the d and it would break his heart to be knocked out by him. Whon he Issue s Sullivan in three match he sald to| Irtbie’ b « ohn would be only too happy to | Pinnacle of Axhting fame with @ fury gloves, but it thy) > wanted to conteat for | Ting’ te their | “ie won the bantamweight title who: ound my- jhe knocked out Pedlar Palmer of Eng 1 know full |land in 1899. A year later he gathe tation does not make | , C is another wide to this idea, |Uixo2 at the old Broadway Sporting however, that is at times bumorous, I shall never forget the time I arrived |t! &t Davenport, Ia,, and cksmith named Mike Sheehan |W ate me, He waalthe found a giant |higher, | children and it was on their that d not want the |whi , and I do unds, He was intensely wanted to come back, but iidn't, [made him a present of t if he had been have been a good that day McGovern had ailed. Terence Joseph McGovern will be identified with Brooklyn, though was born in Johnstown, Pa, bye yeara ago. Asa very smail child he was Fought to Brooklyn, and it was there, in the 6 sin erection, phat lithe Terry MeGov developed into a er. Tt was natural that he should, for it was a emgshing, hard-hitting dla. trict and the ‘last place In the 1 expect to find @ Little Lord Terry's fi = was done in th lumber yards ne his home. Ter jumped into Erie Basin fame at leas when he whipped his boss after an ars kumen d the thrashing was 80 eons * vincing that hla boss decided for both of them that they'd give up the lumber yard business and Ko In for professional fightin, It was long before the sobriquet “Ter- me identified with the rest le Terry's fighting name, Is » and fallin ring history reads like sinvnce, He battered his way to the: that, o1 of ri that made hia name swing round the world as Sullivan's hed. It wae the resiatibio dash of the little fellow that quickly endeared him to the lovera of boxing and the world was amazed when championships fell to him even in bis in the featherweight championship wheh* he knocked out the matchless George Chup, With the bantam and featherweight jes to hia credit, ‘Kerry almed atill wanted to be champion ip cago, bi Nahtwe ‘A year Govern. , in almost un of Denver. The: Conn., on Thankagiv- Up to now McGovern ha@ + khown what defeat meant. - a cool, heady little f with 9 tremendous punch, met ‘Terribi One toe to toe and In two rounds, ond @n~ other beloved ring bero lay crumpled oa tie floor in defoat. Six to one was offered that Corbett would be knocked out, and the Denver boy atid his manager were the only one: bet on the Corbett camp. His vie Was Just as astounding thet of “man from whome he @ad taken Aghting name, This defeat seemed to break Terry's Me slipped gradually, ai they fought again in Ban Pr. Corbett once more triumphe in eleven rounds, Terry's frie the claim t Corbett had the featherwelght Uti fact that he had defeated Terry afte: having scaled above the Mmit. Cor: betts famous remark to that claim w ver mind the title, It {# enough for Young Corbett to be pointed out as the man who knocked out Terry nce I first entered the|among them the late Timothy Bulll- prize ring. Just why this question led to understand. I was never knocked out in my life. fight with James Corhett I was not | I knew everything that was going on, but the machinery | within me refused to respond to my call @nd I could not rise from my | In my |and right here is about as good a ver, | belisve | | tho kind ‘ described to me |no man can t a fact, es hed as early as were mh from which the booze is sup- posed to ¢ a, obody can beat it | by fighting | Porbaps in ne—and I do not nto § sttully—T have more young men into a ni tu sida Of those occu pout twonty minutes. The firat thing | puce lecture plarforias’? iy Semmes ked me Was: "Did T win how { do jt, Simply by being fora” ier man that I knocked out {fat 1 used t 4? ay | champion of the wor |who really dia McGovern. Terry siipped further. His fortune disappeared like chaff in the wind, Sam Harris, Joe Humphries and th van, arranged @ great benefit for Terry. in Madison Square Garden, This netted $18,000, which Harris so in- vested that McGovern has been get- ting $25 every week ever ever, that puts a man out for good, place to discuss It as any other, The real knockout punch is carried by old King Booze, and nobody who ever went Against him ever recovered enough to be @ good fighter. A great many persons have sald that I should be an authority on what js commonly called the curse liquor, Iam, I make the statement openly, though I am ashamed of it But lam golug to be straightforward, id in making this acknowl- a fitful past, I want to myself on an equal footing with! of the men who may heed mj) and certainly need something e, but I wasn't the 1 Noman carries or & Cross OF an I fought the oc man with the pun ewing or a upt that can make an impres- on Old Red Eye - ‘Whey used to say that I won moat of my fights by scaring my men inte fit re gett nto the ring with en, But Old Red Eye never gave in a& Be is thought when I threw jown the let to him, I was just is Gasy O8 Any of the rest 6f Me You have heard before, I guess, th ut the boone game, Itfa iter path than any other man ® argument that if @ a, and the vered the origina nockout punch, couldn't negos ctory over King Kornjuleer eh chance had anybody else? PB strong talk, but absolutely right.” (The next chapter will be Monday,)