The evening world. Newspaper, March 15, 1916, Page 4

COULD HAVE PUT PUAN FOR SUBWAY WITHOUT CITY'S A, DECLARES SHONTS . His Offer Hidden in P.S. Safe Six Years Was Meant to Show Limits meeting of the Thompson corm- Interborough Would Go for Con- tract—Proof It Was Kept Secret. Prendergast of Despite the loud protests of Comptroller Thompson Committec, against discounting the importance Whitney, it develops that this letter, designated by so-called proposition for subway construction ‘Sale at Three Brooklyn Stores————— ; e T owe ALTERATIONS FREE Bet, asin & OR S(O >-ENB O)- BER O Wer > CLS | S(O) OS at Near Gates Avenue Beauty and Style in this New Spring Suit *20 Model illustrated Black and white check Velour, the essence of smartness, fashions this attractive spring model, with pleated jacket made short and jaunty, The bodice fitting rather snugly to the waist line flares in wide pleats below. The side pockels, cuffs and buckle are all of the same tone. Skirt has a swirl: ing hem with shirred and tailored yoke Other Beautiful Models Subwar Station | v ~ This sult 820 °20 Soutache braid trimming and the model wise simple, is made elaborate A of this braid trimming ty and trim the deep cuffs. full flare model with shirred belt. at $10.75, $12.75 , Alterations Free in all Departments Sale at Three Lrooklyn Stores: Bet me 8 IE [LRP a oe poe ae ate ae oe de ae Se ae ae ae ae ® : OpenSaturdays > SOS) 0 SERS 0 4RRS CREE REE ) ABE? DRED) 4HES C-RED, )-€8S-0- Seer ©) CHB ) 22S Ree -deR- >- SE & & UntiltoP.M. ii. Tara Apoly ~ We Close Eve- Cs Also to Long Isl ° x — nings at Y) ae and, New Jersey ; H 6 o'clock ENS AN ACCOS * and Connecticut. 3 | as aati H a ROOMS $ Wr } Fi Completely 75 4 Furnished / & : ROOMS ; j & Completely *125 ana e Furnished H ROOMS $ asinine Completely 150 ° Furnished a » $22.98 4 FS aia Adam Period Bed- b i | | | room Suite in Antique ali \ |i Ivory é Ll ‘ Consisting of Dresser > 7 we ee with French plate mir- fp” | ~- ror, Chiffonier, Dressing al [ Table and Bed. \| —_ i by ~aeuerql f We Pay Freight and iF — | % $14.98 Raflroad Fare. | $19.98 | o DB Ave.Con.64"Sr. ANT Cee ee we with Interborough mor THROUGH the | SHONTS OFFER MEANT TO MEET a letter which re mained in the safe of the Public Service Commission and whieh had never) 4. y iy nupervision by “geen the light of day” until brought before the committee by Secretary | (after consulting with members of } Prendergast as “that|company) so t was the final tentative draft as to what would be agreed upon between the mission Fulton St., Cor. Bridge | 1329-1331 Broadway | 4810-4812 Fifth Ave. Mh Sts, used extensively for tiustrated, other- y the means Fushioned of Chiffon Taffeta and made in jacket effect, \ two large steel buttons fasten front of blouse Skirt is of the Other Charming Models $42.50 Our Literal Cred- Public Service Commission end the | Interborough Company without the} use of city money Thie letter, dated March 22, 1910, (which wae printed in full in The) Evening World), according to Pres dont Shonts, who wrote It, was the result of conferences covering @| period of months, including some) twenty interviews with Chairman Willeox of the Public Service Com- mission. A month later, April 22, ,1910, negotiations were begun by the meeting of Shonts and Mayor Gay- jnor and the proposition changed to the building of the subway with city money. According to the t the Commiasion. city money? “Yes,” said Mr. Whitney. mony Ot the] asked Mr. Moss mittee Baturday, which is printed be |low for the first tinw, Mr. Shonts aaid jhe was not talking “through his hat |when he sent that letter, About that |time he “became acquainted with J |B. Morgan & Co, We hav evidence the also. BOARD'S DEMANDS. In fact, it was specifically ar stuff own "I don't know bly did leas, at any rate hat it would be at 1 “Oo. Ka" by the Public Seavice Com as he did not want to be down” any longer, “Noth » of It," said Mr. Shonte, month later the new scheme for “That is my understanding,” | "thrown linge ove Yet cain he had heard that Mr. 8h “Ultimately a plan wa “Why has this proposition—this letter “1 think that is a question for Mr. Willcoe to answer,” replied Whitney, “but I may aay he perhaps reyarded it as confidential.” “Now, Mr. Whitney.” began Mr. Moss, “let'a get this straightened out. this unsigned Iettor of March 22, 1910, by which the Interborough practically offers to build the subiwaya twith its own money. story of President Shonts's call on Mayor Gaynor at Sts amea on April 24, 1910, and then in July, 1910, comes the new Inters horeugh proposition to build the subways, but with city m Didn't Chairman Willcox drop out of the subway conferences after the presentation of the March 22 Ietter?”* ; that may be $0,” answered Mr. Whitney. And isn’t it true that the Interborough conferences were substantialiy + | carried on with the Mayor subsequently?” replied Mr. Whitney “Did you or any of the Public Service Commissioners know wntil re- cently that Shonts went to see Gaynor with Mr. “I think the firat Lever heard was one time when Mr. Willcox told me nts had seen Mayor Gaynor.” adopted using both city and Interborough too,” been kept secret all this time?” We have in ey invested “1 think he ‘ownst” he of vity money developed. money and the Brooklyn Rapid Transit got into Manhattan?” | In view of this, of singular signif! “Yes,” said Mr, Whitney. lcanee is the flowing tne ond |the niajority report of the Transit! ™ =~ - Committee of the Board of Matimate that “Lexington was substituted for Shonta letter was Sa and Apportionment. signed by Comptroller himself and John Purroy Mitchel, then |Promdent of the Board of Aldermen |{t will be remembered that Mitchel was opposed to the dual subwe This report is Madison Avenue.” BE USED. ‘The extract sighed by Prenders con. jond Mitchel follows: \traets, continued to be opposed to From information furnished by [them and did not sign them. Mr.! the Chairman of the commission, st, however, did agree to! it is the understanding of your the dual subway committee that theso negotiations It is notuble that (his very letter! between the President of the In- wil kept in the safe, the result] terborough Company and the jof the Willeox-Shonts confere nces, | Chairman of the commission, | st have been the basis at least for] looking to the construction of the the extract here printed, dated Jan. 5] Interborough extensions with In- (1911 terborough money, continued un- | Thus ten months after the date of! tit early in the epring of 1910. {the in the safe Prendergast is! According to the Chairman, hi "at the “suggestion” that mind and the mind of the Pres dent of the Interborough had met upon all the essential features of the plan, details alone remaining to be adjusted. During a suspen. sion of these negotiations the Chairman of the Public Service Commission was astonished to learn of the letter of July 5, ad- dressed by the President of the Interborough Company to the Mayor, a copy of which was later forwarded to the Chairman of the commission as well. This letter contains the surprising suggestion that these extensions the subway should be with city money. Also the only ch construc n noted in the subway construction as |seomingly understood by AN OLD RECIPE TO DARKEN HAIR = = | and Sulphur Turns} them was | Whit addition of other in [50 cents, Everybody uses thie prepara- | tion now, because no one can possibly tell | thut you darkened your hair, us it does lit tevenly. You dampen !a spo MC brush with it and deaw \this through your hair, taking strand at a time; by ng the x linir disappears, and after another Jeation or two, your hair bocotmes be \fully dark, thiek and glossy a ‘ounger, Wyeth'y Sage and \look years _W) Sulphur Compound is a delightful toilet vite, It is not intended for the | cure, mitigation or prevention of disease. + OF UNFILED LETTER. Advt. for about is denied by Mr. M sent to Senator Tho Mr, Moss states that to him Saturday morning with or usual files, Mr. Moss's telegram says: | B. Altman & Co. Peer ree gn ty * BAUMANN & BRO E, ular file of Mp ental memora sir | | How would those "be found? A. | ‘a | They are indexed and filed a | ,f Suppose ; dd to find all . , oe the o ponde memorand. x 9 nite Mr. MeCal! ale . | Boys’ Washable Suits oo Matar EC UaT e Wa ar through me it would. be re by : . fais i ith index cards showing it x| (sizes 3 to 8 years) in a variety of smart WG. Jan's it known In. tie office that 5 " there are files of corresponden a tyles featuring attractive color combinae packa of (corn RAIHDRON ete es he hot in the files controtied by My i tions, will be placed on special sale to-morrow Iinn A. Only departaiental ‘nen. | i (Thursday), offering exceptional vatue at SP toi oat one ane aes x] with rs ce fo th views: x $2.45 cular file? A. sortinn § neme pou on the determination ia x Boys’ Washable Suit Dep't, Second Floor) aes fate ae us not there? " A. Or in the legal parton x“ $$$ —$—___—__—_— Are there any other that 1 know * of? A. None that L know of # @Q. Are tiers any a lating to the conte the su * 1 eal ontracts In the so-called informa A Very Unusual Sale of |ftiien? A. Yes, sir the formal and] a | ‘ wi informal panera are kept together X > Q. Are all the formal and informal ‘(Imported Lace Panels, Lace Curtains] pater tnas roti te tho'subyay con: | % | Fe * x * Q. Whether the fore the i and Decorative Lace Pieces are on x" in the depart | : x all hand-mad now be'ng held, presen L | : ali han ace) oy eng ere presents @ WHAT SHONTS TESTIFIED! x -hoice collection at price concessions ABOUT SUPPRESSED LETTER, , In view of the disturbed conditions now prevailing im the laceeproducing countries, | are of more than ordimary interest. Fifth Averw- Madison Avenue 34th and 35th @treeta New Fork renders" sas TONISHED! THAT CITY MONEY | Faded Hair Dark (excepting that Lexington was at $15, $18 and up to $65 | vs i substituted for Madison Avenue) ene ra A | be constructed for the company : Almost everyone knows that Sage Tea} With city funda, with certain Smart and Chic and Sulphur, properly compounded, | guarantees by the city. This le Brings buck the natural color and lustre) ter has within the past two ‘ is this to the hair when faded, streaked or! months been described by the ) . \arny. Ye: the only way to get th President of the Interborough Als, e ininture was tw make itt home, which! Company as an offer submitted i/7, j"R SS ed to the Public Service Commis- if Aes ator sage und Silphue| sion ¢ Ws c) | Come xetalarge bottle} Also the defense of Secretary a) A j fof this by the that on Friday he told Mr. Moss of this very letter in the safe sin a telegram pson lust night, Whitney came the }letter after he (Whitney) was pressed the day previous as to where subway documents were kept other than the HOW WHITNEY CAME TO TELL first I heard of an unsigned {When Mr, Whitney ent mittee room and said t c \* letter In his pocket relat | Proposition by Mr hot in the regular files. I asked him | |for it, Me said MacNeill had request jed him to bring the proposals fron’ the files, and he would prefer to go jback to the office and get those pro- jPosals and produce them, inclu {the one that was not on file. I said, | |*All right, but how will I know \particular paper? Suppose yx it on top.’ He acquiesced returning later with rs. As Indicated in the Shonts, wt a| ta ord, I called upon him to papers, 1 did not find the wu letter on top, It was the second paper In the bundle, 1 p} 1 it out because it had no formal siip t tached to it as the others had. 1 think you will find the record in substantial accord with this state. ment." Following are questions asked {Whitney last Friday, the day betore he produced the jetter which was not indexed by @ formal slip Question—(by Mr Musas). Are all the memoranda referring to this sub-| Way contract in one place in your] Anewer~(by My. Whitney), You mean the entire contract? Q. Are there in your office s: wh © in other places than toe main ic@ memoranda relating to the subway contra A. Jn my offies in the gen! file n | Q. No, just answer my que Whitney Mr 4 that is a fair question In my office tn the general file + are all of the formal papers thar before the commission. “ALL PAPERS RELATING To CONTRACT KEPT TOGETHER,” Q. Who has charge of this? A. Mr McKinney Q. It Mr received n Meal, for inatance orrespundence, — report stutementa, &e,, from persons r ing the terms of the sub: tracts would they be with Kinney or is it possible they wero somewhere cise? A. The rule of the office is that they would come to Mr. McKinney's office to be but it might be, if he thougt came to the commission, it mig hunded to the head of the depat ment and might not go to the general file for some time. } Q. Are there any documenta, » oranda, communic midenee relat tlds contract thi Mr. stered, n corre- | or Mr. Shonta's testimony as to the }little larger proposition. THE EVENING WORLD, WEDNESDAY, MAROH 15, 1916. NO CHANCE FOR MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE SHONTS PROPOSAL, WHICH WAS NOT TO COST THE CITY ONE DOLLAR Testimony of Secretary Travis Whitney of the Public Service Commission Before the Thomp= son Investigating Committee. | “Ag Tunderatand it,” aald Mr. WMtney, “this is a draft of a letter given to Mr. Willcox to look over by President Shonts as a proposed proposal to 1 think this letter, with some changes, represented Ohair- man Willooz’s ideas and Mr. Shonte’ “This plan, if adopted, would have seon the subwaye built without any sked Chief Counsel Frank Moss, June, I had become acquainted with Messrs, J. P, Morgan & Co, and In- \duced them to agree to back us in case We got certain other propositions so that we felt justified in making & The second proposition, which I think was for four tracks, was also to be with pri vate capital, and that was also re- jected. Then I think along in the fall, and I'll say rather brusquely Q. By whom? A. The Public Ser vice Commission, That fall, Septem- ber or October, I got either a note or Willcox me again, and 80 Wo started in on the third period of Negotiation, This time [ sald to the railroad company fT didn't want any- thing sent up there and thrown out I would like to have it O. K'd. In other words, I wanted to fool If we made another offer to thom we would not receive the same treatment. This 1s my recollection without having re- freshed my mind tn regard to these offers, That was September or Octo- her, 1909. And that unsisned pronosi- tion of March, 1810, put in a letter form, but not a fc offer, {s what I understood to be to the mind of the Public Service Commission as to what would be satisfactory to them If we made that offer, and that T went up with the idea of having them Indi- cate SAYS LETTER WAS MEANT ONLY AS A “FEELER” Q. (Mr, Moss indicating to witness) Th the paper you hold in your hand? A. Yes. Q. Was that Intended to he a state. ment of what the railroad any would do? nd- fl to bo a statement of what | under stood Chairman Willeox of the Pub- lie Service Commission would accept in ease we mado such an offer, Q. Isn't that intended to be a statement of what vour company was | willing to do? A. No, not necessarily | | $0. nts, just read this wn to witness) of what the to do? Q. Well, Mr, Sh letter, (Letter sh Isn't that a «lrond compa No, not nec proposal was ready A , I don't are about that was it t? A. Tam ane Q. Couldn't you say yes or no. A No, because T hadn't talked It over with ail our people ot } it now, unless someth pens to change my mind, 3 main purpose of the preparation of that| document was to be submitted to Mr Willcox and have bim | indi whether if we made an offer alone those lines it the Public Service Commission, Q. You believe you could have done | It? A. Yes Q. This is what they were willin to do? AT think I could have put f better, and the price would be end in town other milliners are c iniswieaie | copies. It fairly breathes of Sp ny conferences W hem on many DOnARIONIAG CAG YOR An excellent quality of Milan Q@. You were not talking through itself, your hat? A. 1 was trying not to. | ave , Q. You were putting out what you! dA aie des helleved your company would stand of the berries. for, and all you wanted was na rea- pine svorkmanship that leave sonabie assurance that you were not going to have !t thrown into the aa t others were? mation this morr knew hefere. Q. When you called u James about Apr You hing was in Mr. Willcox's nds, dida't you? A. Oh, yes Did you fell the Mayor you had » this proposition? A, T tmag- 1 might have done so? A.T think 1 did ISN'T SURE HE TOLD GAYNOR ABOUT OFFER. u told t 38th Street . The ‘‘Cordwainer” $5.85 Our former price 87.9 Tan or black calf lace » damp-proof soles. “letter in the safe’ and his nogotia- tions with Gaynor were as follows: | Q. How did you coma to make the| informal proposition that produced in evidence this morning, an unsigned | emorandum by you? ‘A, My recol ction of that—of course I have not been in my office and haven't sen | jtha document excopt as you referred to tt this morning, My recollection | jis that early In 1999, 1 would think Mareh, 1909--I think T have already | toaiified to thin—roalizing that as a tepant of the city’s aubway, and Silk Shirts A largo yarioty novelty atripes [n $4.95 | nr of neat and new Spring 2 j S i | ~ | ° tas Tt] g hap: | would be accepted by | which the Mayor had never seen copy. @. This offer that you say is 22, 1009, that offer was prepare your people? A. Ob, yes. [ think ° that Was our offer, but T think it was] ? in June, 1909. r Q. And what was offered in the} / offer of 1900 as regards use of) ff capit Was it to be the company's} 4 ca ALY The first offer was) 4 |private capital, If it had been a cepted I don't know where we would \ have got the mon \ Q. And that provic up Madison Avenue? A. Yo Q. And four down the west also? That's what you call it, don't you? A. Yes. Q. And that would have been a fiv cent fare, would it not? A. Yes. Q. So when you went to St the Mayor knew by what had ha your company's proposal was to @ large work of t! t yourself? A. T and had it ovenrred to me at the I certainly must have told them Q. Now we come to p July, 1910 as woll as’ private capital, It is truly charmante. ‘The lines would be identically the jed for four tracks | side | James pened before and by what you had} probably communicated to him that do at kind and finance y must have known position of That did not provide for | your company financing a proposition | completely, but called for city money | didn't it / A New Foliage ‘ Model. Copies ame (it’s an exact copy of a Parisienne importation), the materials would be no mannequins? We hold m, and if ill surprise you rive 21WEST, Brooklyn Stor FIFTH AVENUE Lord & Taylor | Patent Leather $2.95 $7 lens broken: Formerly $5.00 ¢ Laced or button at sizes, a ee ee H Silk Neckwear Open end four-in-hands, made of rich imported patterns and Ground Floor Le HIGH-GRADE SHOES FOR MEN 1 | Two t bout 100 francs. Right arging $40.00 for similar ring. braid forms the hat The deep green of the leaves is brightly, vened by the brilliant reds and greens All put staunchly together with really g to be desired. I Lave you seen our Parades de Chapeaux on beautiful ne ev y afternoon from two to four. ‘ ‘Taousands of our customers tell us they find this a dei ghtful way to view our hats Jus we have a handsome collection, $5 to $10 hundreds of new and exclusive styles. ce never be here before our ondonfeather(o S4USTREET Lord & Taylor 39th Street oe oe a “SPECIALS” FOR MEN Thursday, Friday and Saturday Bench Made Boots $7.85 i fia Three Remarkable ‘‘Specials’’ in MEN’S FURNISHINGS Silk Half Hose accordion effects, al * and tops) Various color combinations, $1.15 ee EO EE A A: | > 0 D> 0-0 ED (0) ED 0 ED () ED () ED (0) ED) D-DD Picture showing all that wi left of the pie after Johnny had found it. Its crust was made with Presto FLOUR World Wants Work Wonders. ) LaMarie-Louise ‘10 You might have boughtit in Paris! scree, realizing that something #hould be| your own expense? A. I have no A. Yos, that's my rete ry done to relieve the congestion which | recollection, My natural recollection, | recollection was refreshed By tne was then apparent we applied for|so as to be perf: Ge to you | fending of thet eye we ae financial backing. Jabout the matter, is that if { talked | Wh vt talk. with the Mayor Q. I didn't ask you about 1902, A.|to him about the inatter, 1 told him.) Q. Did you talk, with the MAee Well answering your question In my The rd, Mr. Cot wh 1 about that chan Re ‘i M th ees own way, I think in March, 190, we|can give of what happy it VB lh Nath r at mire) tw offered to build two tracks on the| my private and personal memoran- | gard fo tiese matiars wlkal tees tw lower west alde and two tracks on|dum, dictated the next day, and/engincers came into jhe stiuagon, | the upper east aide of Manhattan.) which, of course, supp 1 would; Q Di Wy i billed b A. vou, free That proposition waa rejected, Later | sever seen tho light of day a NG a NN he on that year, I think in June, now| Q. ‘That's in the rovord? A. 1 made] quer ‘ derstood, reps between the ‘time of the frst’ offer | this point to the counsel just to cleat| @. Mr. Martin, you understood, reps | which 1 think was in March, and tho| that up. It was my own starement) Psonter ts nh represented the second offer which I think was In|for myself of what had been said of ve : Pte 522 bulton St., near Hanover Place { fo} co] i | " 8 |