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port Bnlty of removing him and ap- jing & new Commissioner, While Jaw does not require the Governor five the Commissioner a hearing, failure to give him a chance to be frould be unprecedented. A hear- would put of the removal f » ven! x Waa intensely interested but #aid he ‘had hothing to say. He went at once te the City Hall and went into a confer. ence with the Mayor. @mory 2 Weckner, who resigned as an Assistant ‘Distriet-Attorney to become counsel for EB et rh lla i ‘Phe rolt of membre of the depart- ment refusing to waive immunity js as fi “Commissioner Rhinelander. Wi Deputy Commissioner George 8. Do erty, head of the Detective Burea' Winfleld R. Sheehan, Aecretary to the Commissioner; Inspector Dennis Hwee- Rey (since convicted), Capt. Thomas W. ‘Walsh (since convicted), Capt. Domin- ice Henry, Capt. William H. Kinsler, Lieut. William W. Duggan, Lieut. John Glynn, Detective Joseph Daley, Patrol- man Henry Resmeyer, Patrolman A: thur Carmack, Patrolman Joseph Mich- aeleon. ix of the nine members of the Curran Committee favor the fepert. They are fusion members of the board. The three Tammany mem- bere—Dowling, Kenny and Smith—pre- pared @ minority report and fougit against the adoptig of the majority Measure, They were bound to be over- wheimingty outvoted. Police Commissioner Waldo conferred with the Mayor af the City Hall to-day shortly before the Curran committee ‘went into session. He would not di- vulge the nature of hie talk with the Mayor. Bhortly afterward Gpeaker of the Assembly “ Smith arrived and ‘Was ushered into the Mayor's presence. 1@AYNOR SAYS ONCE MORE HE . general heads on which this rec- ommendation was based are an follows: COMMITTEE SURE SION. _ ER 16 UNFIT. “We have become convinodd that the Police Commissioner, Rhine ‘Waldo, is incompetent and unfit ities of his office. Many tnfermation, letters charging them with withrut making independent in- ition. No better protection could Setraying him-and the city. hae geglected to dis- those inspectors who have been either inefficient or signif- inactive. Raids over their by Headquarters vice squads mot resulted in reprimand, 4 or other action. . “Eidth—He hag neither seourea nor ecrious to secure from fis subordinates accurate information FRILED TO PUT RESTRICTIONS ON COMMANDERS, je has made it possible for TH HAS STOPPED QRAFT. Ta commenting to-day on the veto by the Governor of the bill providing for Rineteen additional deputy police com- misdioners, Mayet Gaynor once more declared that his administration bad stopped police graft. “I do not complain that the Gevernor vetoed it,” sald the Mayor. “In fact, Wo did not need it-véry much, We ought to have deputies to investigate all complaints, but will try to get along without them. We are gradually doing our work of reformation. “Do you know that of the ninotesh who were Police Inspectors when I be- came Mayor only six remain? Their Places have been filled by men of ¢ new school, The ok! school and the old grater are being eteadily edged out. We have been at it day by day all along, while others been railing end clemoring. “The peaple of this city are begin- ting to reaitze the great reforms which have been steadily wrought out in the Police Departinent during the last three and a half years. We have had no heip but only hindrance from petty poll- tictans and setf-seckers. A few police- men have been exposed for taking graft. Is only two cases was the graft taken in the last four years. Old offenses wan not be laid to the present. 1 expected more disclosures of gragt than have occurred,” “Every one knew that some police- men have taken graft for years. We started in from the beginning to stop it. We have etopped “The attempt of Jew potty pollti- clans and investigators to make the in+ telligent people of this town condemn the Police Commissioner and the whole splendid body of 10,000 men under him because of the exposure of five of six @counérels among them has run ite course and falten flat, SAYS THE PEOPLE ARE PROUD OF THE FORCE. ‘The people of this city are proud of the police force. They want the fow Graftere among them weeded out. That has been greduatly done all ‘and we shall continue the work. The clamor ‘The one great reform by which vittary and unneces- lockings up in dirty year, #0 that the professional bondsman out of business here, will be and appreciated when the ef- petty politicians to blacken the force because of the derelictions 'y tew are forgotten—and they aloo.’ — ea WALDO ASSIGNS NEW CAPTAIN TO BROOKLYN POST. = Commissioner Waldo to-day assigned t | apt. Joseph A. Conboy to the com- i i ; i ‘i il ! Hel ier t a E : ‘3 g% | Fi i rf z | i ¥ i ! ae 4 3 5 i ' i mand of the Liberty avenue potioe ata: tion, Brooklyn. Conboy was recently Premoted to Mill the vacancy caused by the resignation of Capt. Bernard G: lagher, following the raid of the ‘Wind- gor Club in Gallagher's district, by “Honest Dan’ Costigan. transferred JEWELLERHELD UP, RBHED OF 3 ~ LOMEDI STORE Youth With Revolver First En- gages Attention” of ‘Monde! Greenhaus in Forsyth St. | THREATENS TO KILL HIM. Storekeeper Smashes Locked Door With Fist and Causes | Uproar in Neighborhood. Folk in Foreyth otreet between Grand and Hester streets were startied ehort- | ly after 9 o'clock this morning when | they heard the crash of breaking glass | Ghd saw Mondel Greenhaus, who hae « Uttle jewelry Business on the first floor at) 3 Forsyth § street, climbing through the door of his store, from which he had broken the giase with o blow of his fet. His hand was bieed- Ang, but the excited jeweler paid no heed to it. Once clear of the door- way he dashed down the street. “I've been robbed!" he ahrieked, “I've been robbed! Burgtars! Help! Potlce! Forsyth street wae jammed and mer flocked about Greenhaus demanding to be told what had happened, but thr Jeweler shook them off and continued bio wild run, screaming with all hi strength of lung until Pollooman Had lich of the Clinton stréet station grabbed him, SAYS HE’ WAS HELO UP FOUR MEN. “What's the matter with you?" de- manded Hadlich, and in gasping, short aentences Greenhaus told how four men had held him up at the point of a re volver and stolen some $800 worth of Jewelry from his store. The excited jewoler accompanied Had- lich to the Clinton street station, he told his story to Acting Capt. Foy and Detective Woods. Hoe oald he had been behind counter when @ very dressed man seemingly not moro than twenty years old entered asked to see aome of the silver wate! which Greenhaus hed on display in his front window and which he had adver- tised for $3.60, Greenhaus leaned beneath his counter and when he rose with several watches to display to his customer he boked Into the mussle of a revelver, “One you and you're a dead man," Geclared the young man. ‘Thén three other youths, well dressed Mite the frat, hurried into the store, @TRUCK THE JEWELLER IN THE FACE AFTER ROBBERY. {They jammed the loot into their pock- sv fan outcry after they left if he valued his life. 2 “We'll come back and shoot you If you call for help,” declared this man. ‘So keep your mouth shut till we get away. ‘Then all four hurried out the doo the terrified jeweller saw them ft t! hasp over the hook he front of ¢ door and lock it with a padlock. Clearly they had planned the ‘obbery carefully to be equipped with this lock, for Green- haue’s own Jey untouched back of the counter where he had put it when he entered the store, The jeweller gave the men time to get well away from his front door and then he rushed fo it and smashed his hand through the glass. Hé tote out the jagged pleces that remained until he could climb through the hole and rush shrieking down the street. adipic WILSON MEETS C. P. TAFT. Berether of Ex-Presideat a Cal at the White House. WASHINGTON, June 2.—Charies P. Taft, a brother of former President Taft, dropped in at the White House to-day to shake hands with President 8n¢/ Wilson, and the latter inquired when Prof. Tatt was expecting to return to ‘| Washington. He learned that his pre- Mystérious Detroit “Interview” De clares Trade Is Now Being Ar- Post to-day prints an interview with an unnamed man “closely identified with American League affairs,” in which the statement !s made’ that the Detroit and Chicago clubs are arranging a tr involWwing Ty Cobb and Hal Confirmation of the report was lacking hore and in Detroit. Nevertheless the Post's informant dj eerts that the story ia not as absurd ae it may appear on its face. He says Detroit's need of a first baseman, the effect on the other players ef Cobb's “holding out” at the Seginning of the @eason and the large salary demanded by the famous Georgian, furnish three very good reasons for the Detroit club being willing to part with its star player. ——_—_—_ Charity Ball Peetpened. The Charity Balt at Garden City has been postponed from Wednesday even- ing until Friday evening, thie week. The Managers learned the attendance would be greatly increased by offerin, opportunity to many owners of au homes to take week-end guests with them to the ball, a uld be here June 9 for u meeting of! mission. j@ Lincdln Memorial Com- —_——_—————— 11 INSURED IN TRAIN CRASH. —_—— Sew York Central Flyer Dashes Isto Rear of Lecal Up State. WATERTOWN, N. June 2.—Eleven fersons were injured to-day in a c lgion between fast train No. 10 and train No. 4, a local, on the New York Central and Hudson River Railroad at Richland, The fast train ran into the rear of the local and the locomotive and rear coach were badly damaged. ‘All the injured continued to their den-| ™ tinations. 7 Se THE '$1,000,000,000 MAN! $1,000,000,000 was lost right here In New York—lost, stolen under the very noses of the witching police, ° $1,000,000,000: Taat¥ a billion dol- lars. If “money talks” what a story lies behind that stolen billion! A New York story. The kind one al- ways wants to read—ard gets a chance to about once In ten years, “THE MAN WITH A BILLION.” That's And it will the name of the story, It {s by John A, Moroso, set hole of you from the very tirst £ MAN WITH A BILLION” will in serial publication in next Wednes- Evening Worla, June 4. ber the Gate, And read the MSIE MAN WITH A: BILLION’. will erlp your attention with both bends, | ay VBTEBRAN ST RIAN WHo Sf. WALK TO MINNBAPOLIS TO-DAY ‘ang | | | sworn. Chairtnan Overman put to him in cateworical order the list of eleven Guertions which had been prepared in advai ELEVEN QUESTIONS ASKED OF \ EACH SENATOR, 75-YEAR-OLD MR. WESTON OFF ON 1,446-MILE WALK. Aged Pedestfian Expects to Tramp From Here to Minneapolis Within Two Months. Edward Payson Weston, the spry gos- soon of seventy-five who has unreeled more solid miles with good shoe leather than most men ride in trains, started on his hike to Minneapolis, 1,44 miles away, at noon to-day. The veteran walker expects to get to the Twin Cities In sixty days, with plenty of time to spare in viewing the country th which he pas je of the City of New York was tne official starting point for Weston's long walk. There nearly four hundred students, protes- sors and residents of the neixhborhood had gathered to bid hi ma hearty god- @peed on his journey. Boore he started President John Fh Med old mtleman into his d gave him ® parting gift a little book called ‘he Joys of the Road,” containing excerpts from the works of Stevénson, John Burroughs and other nature lov- ore. President Finley also gave the pedes- trian a letter of introduction to Pres! dent George E. Vincent of the y of Minnesota, which will insure a warm welcome for New York's sprightly game-hearted olf walker when he rives in Minneapolis on Aug. 2, as he Plans. pe OS NEW ARGUMENT TO BLOCK LEVELING OF PARK AVENUE. Property Owners Contend City Can't Touch Park Property Without Legislative Act. Eminent counsel representing the “bill- tonalre’ section—Thirty-fourth street and Park avenue—which Is opposing the plan of the city to cut down the grade Qt those points to a common level with the car tunne] floor, scored a telling point in the public hearing to-day ve- fore \ or Gaynor, Lawyer Guthrie raised the point that none but a legisia- tice action revoking the ac’ of the Common Count) of 1851 in making the centre of Park avenue a park and pleas- ure ground from Thirty-fourth street to Thirty-eighth street could prevail In now doing y with a wection of the park property. Mr, Guthrie ointed out that the city acquired the property and that the Common Council disposed of it to the Park Department, which, for more than ainty-five years, hae hed jurisdiction, Apart of the contemplated grade plan eoneiders taking @ portion of the park etri in Thirty-fourth and Thirty- arth Borough President MeAneny com- bated the poll nd declared the Cor. poration Counsel had given his opinion that nothing could t the city eu. thorities from going ahead with the cutting down of the grade. He de- clared the estimated cost of the change, These questions 1, Please state whether or not you are finan ‘lally interested in the production, manufacture or sale of any article mea- tioned in the Tariff bill or any other bill now pending in Congress or which hat been considered during your term Benator ; if so, state fully the nature and extent of stich interest and whe\per you ever epught to influence any othér Sen- ator as to the duties upon such article. 2. Please state whether you repre- sent or are connected professionally or otherwise, directly or indirectly, ¥ person, firm, association, on or organisation which is engaged in the manufacture, produc- tion or sale of any article named fn the Tariff bill now pending in C gress; if ao, state whether you ever @ought to influence any other Senator ae to the duties of such articles. 4s you are able to do so, the names of all persons who have personally appeared for the purpone of Infinenc- ing legislation now pening, and es- pectally the Tariff bill? 4, Confia! yourself for thi ment to the Tariff bill, p! eo what schedules, paragraphs or items each of the persons whose names you have given was interested in as de- veloped by the representations made to you. 5, Describe the interviews you have had as fully as you can and state mo- made any personal appeal or more than merely present an argt- ment upon the merits or demerits of the bill 6 Has any person, directly or indi- rectly, attempted in any manner im- properly to influence you or your,action upon any legislation pending In Con- gress, capecially tariff legislation? 1. Do you know, or have you any in- formation of the use of any money or thing of value or of any other improper means or methods to influence action upon any legislation pending in Con- Gress, especially the tariff? 8 Do you know or have you any in- formation of the use of money to :nain- tain a so-called lobby here or elsewhere for that purpose? In connection with your anawer, state what you mean by the words “lobby” and “lobbying.” % Do you know of any money being used directly or indirectly for the pub- fication of newspaper advertisements or other newspaper comments or cir- culars or other printed matter intended ; to mislead or otherwise influence public men or public opinion? 3. Do you know of any loboy or lobby- {et maintained in Washington or else- where to influence any legislation now pending before Congress? 11, Do you know or have you credible information of any uther fact which will throw any light upon the matters now under investigation? If so please state ths same fully in your answer, and, if you hi stated matt upon informa- tion, give the source of such informa- tlon. AGHURST DECLARED HiI8 STAND TO QUESTIONERS, HE SAYS. To questions one and tw. Senator Ash- uret made most emphatic denials in detail that he had any Interests of any kind tn tariff articles, us producer or counsel, When askel who had ap- Proached him, the witness replied: “Willam Kettner, Representative of California, asked me one day to ascer- tain if the Senate would make any further reductions in tariff on oranges and lemons. 1 ed Senator Simmons and gave his answer to Mr. Kettner, but with the understanding that I did not favor, nor would I advocate Increase of duty. “A Mr. McCarthy asked me to ascer- tain from Senator Stone if there would be reduction in duty on mohair. I asked Senator Stone and gave the reply to Mr. M thy, but with the distinct under- standing that I did not seek any re- duction of duty, “I discussed gloves with Senators Hoke Smith 4 Swanson during a street car conversation. “A Mr, McClure, representing West- to ahow me, by legitimate argument, tha, thelr interests would a juction of duties, Thes nothing improper. “On the contrary, I think thelr call was entirely legitimate and proper and within their rights as American citi- 0, one has made any improper tions or advances to me, Placed at $3,000,000 by the opponents, : was preposterous and that the cost would not be greater than $325,000, —___ FATAL BASEBALL BLOW. je Freshman Dies of o@ived Several ¥ . ST, LOUIS, June 2—Frederick Whittemore jr, fresh.nan in Yale Uat- veralty, died here to-day from au in- Jury to the spine which resulted trom ing hit by @ baseball several yea an Young Whittemore caine home from ——-—_——_ Mextean Merchant Mac Bad ‘Miguel Hacea Madrid, a commission merchant from Mexico who is stopping at the Hotel America in Hast Fifteenth Street, went to the oMce of K. Mandeil & Co., commission merchants at No, 7) Worth a this afternoon, He opened door leading into a freight elevator whaft and stepped forward. The elevator was at an upper floor and Mr, Madrid fell Afteen feet, austaining serious In- durtes. lars, A lobbyist f@ a man who attempts EEE Fvose CEYLON TEA (a eo - PRN BVENING “WORLD, MONDAY, JUNE 9, 1918 SX SENATORS TESTIFY AT TARE HEARN BOUT WORK OF LOBBY | | (Continued from Firat Page.) | | | to influence action of mambera of Con. by m yy filed ar- ' riefs or ppeeches before members and committees, “I consider that men, and women, too, who buttonhole members and try |to influence them in private methods {are tobbyinta.” | ARIZONA BARB LEGISLATION IN i LUNCHEON TALK, |. Afte: formal questions had been answered Senator Cummins asked for further light on just where | Senator Ashurst drew the line be- | tween legitimate presentation of argu- | me and illegitimate lobbying. “Down in Arizona,” said Ashurat, “we considered jt questionable prac- tice for men to take legisiat to luncheon or dinner and then them about legislation. Discussing turther the appearan: mo of Interests, the Senator aald: “The people eno lobby. The gen- eral public cannot keep up lobby agente. Lobbying conaists in the character of the arguments and inducements held out rather than in the place or the personé concerned.” ” Next came Bacon of Georg! years @ Benator. He testified “Iam the owner of a little suburban farm near Macon, on which I reaide I have mot examined the tariff bil! to dee whether or not it contains duties on 'y of the articles which grown on that farm, I have a small interest, about . in a clay wewer pipe factory, do not know whether or not there any duty on that product. I have small interests in three other small companies in my town—a street rail- way, @ gas company and an electrical power plant. I don't suppose any of these is included in the tariff bill, I have no other interests in any article of production, All told it amounts t: only a few thousand dollars, I wish It moi Senator Bacon is noted as one of the Poorest men in the Sefiate—one for whom money has no interest. “I think,” said serfktor Bacon, “there {a Mttle or none of the old kind of lobbying In Washington now, I recall the time when mon gave great social entertainments and used various ques- hieen tlonable methods to influence legisla- | tion, But those days and methods, I think, have pretty well passed. 1 eee nothing wrong or tllegitimate in a man or lawyer appearing before com- mittees or members to present’ views of his own business or interests.” Senator Bacon knew no lobbyists and had not been approached by any. BORAH HAS BEEN TALKED TO “~ BUT NOT BY “LOBBYISTS. Senator Borah of Idaho, next took the denial platform. “No,” was his brief answer to most of the questions. ‘Men who have spoken to him on tariff items were Harry and Mr, Mc- Carthy, prominent citt of Idako on lead schedules: F, J. Hogenbarth, prest- ; Gent of Nations! Wool Growers Ansocia jtion, and Dr. McC cerning wool duties; several men from Louisiana on sugar, and numerous oc- | castonal callers, As Senator Borah be- |longs to the Republican mfnority, no lobbyists tried to Influence him in favor of higher tariff duties, because he al- ready favored euch policy. He had seen no lobbyists around his office and knew of no use of money. Sen- ator Borah added: “I think tbat there |are not #0 many interested parties here | for this tariff bill as before. I am not so Impressed with their numbers, but | that may be bechuse [| am on the mi- | norlty side this time,” )BRADLEY SORRY HE'S NOT RICH ENOUGH TO BE AFFECTED. | Senator Bradley of Keytucky sald he was not Interested {n production of any article In the tariff uniess it was a five thousand dollar life insurance policy in favor of hie daughter, insur- ance being mentioned in the income tax sovedule. | No lobbyists ever bothered the Sen- ator from Kentucky; he never saw one to know him, nor did he know of any money being used. “I am very sorry T don't own more Property, so as to be interes! bill, but it is an said the witness, “I supose to, that my position on tariff is so well known that nobody came aroun@ to try to in- fluence me.” s Senator Brandages of Connecticut told of numerous manufacturers of his State by] coming to Washington to see whether or not the Underwood dill duties could be amended, but he was obliged to give them cold comfort. Among them were Cheeney Brothers of South Manchester, stik manufacturers; W. W. Bkiddy of Stamford, dye stuff manufacturer, and Henry Hall of Willimantic, thread man- ufacturer, They were not lobbyists and used no improper methods or argu- ments. Bome said the Underwood duties Girne nr, Monday an aUNE 8 2 euine, Sete oun sox LOC Earad tae 1 5c PENNY A POUND gyi gious tana 3 beret re, secretary, con- | it information they could offer. He read the jist of his callers lowe: Frank C. Lowry of New York, Fepresetiting the Federal Sugar Refinery | and wariting free sugar; Henry T. Ox-| fard,, interested in beet sugar and wanting (arif duties; A. O. Baldwin of lan sugar Godenaux bi grot an + Jul ni t Loulsiana, rep- | iting cane sugar growers, ‘s free sugar; Henry Lassan of Wichita, with @ detegation of millers interested in wheat and flour duties; 6. W. Me- Clure, Salt Lake City, Seoretary Na- ttonal Woo! Growers’ Association, in fa- vor of duty on wotl. 8. H. Cowan, Fort Worth, Tex. attorney for the National Live Stock Association, hostile to free meate; H. J. Krebs, Newport, Del., anxious about Uyhocrone duties; W. H. Baird,’ De-| trolt, expert on sugar beet plants, who had much Information; W. L. Baas, who floods offices with literature on a if. THEY ARE NOT CROOKS, BRIS- TOW ASSERTS. “These are decent fellows,” said Bristow. “I don't think they are crooks or criminals. The committee asked Senator Fristow questions about Lowry and Oxnard. Both Nave been in Washington several years, he sal, one fighting for free suger and the other for a duty, each arguing that his plan would remit in cheaper prices to the consumer. Lowry is paid by the Federai Refining Company, while Oxnard is a grower of sugar beets. McCluré {s around Washington when- ever wool tariff is mentioned. Judge Cowan (s frequently in Washington, representing the Live Stook Assocl- ation. Senator Bristow said there are not as many lobbyists or interested persons around now as during the tariff bil legislation four years not even as mafy sugat men, nor an much liter- ature circulated. SENATOR BRYAN EXPLAINS TAR- H IPF BILL AMENOMENT. Senator an testified he was finan- | clally Interested in the bill only to the jextent that he had $5,000 in a mort- | gage on an orani rove. He had ap- | peared before a Senate sub-committee dealing with citrus fruits on learning {that the Ways and Means Committee ‘had an erroneous idea of the size of orange boxes and had consequently cut | the present rate on citrus fruits more than 50 per cent. He-explained that he drafted an amendinent to cure the de- fect and presented it to the sub-com- mittee. | R. P. Davie of Colorado, a Florida {land owner, and another man, president of the Cal!fornia Citrus Fruit Ex. jchange, whose name wan hot given, | }Nad talked to him in a general way | | about eltrus fruit duties, Senator Bryan | naid. “Even though a man is laterested ® dusiness himself," said the Senator, “t would consider him a lobbytat if he devoted all or the greater part of his time to influencing legislative action.” Senator Bryan gave to the committoe his correspondence with the Fiortda Clirus Exchange. Senator Burton testified he had no interest tn any tariff rates and had no Professional connection with any firm representing persone affected by tariff changes. —— Children Slaves te Heroin. Joneph Larso John Ward, twenty-two; Chester Ken- nedy, nineteen, and Charles Anderson, seventeen, were held this afternoon in the Morrisania police court, for further examination, in $00 ball on @ charge of using heroin, The drug has been much in evidence among children in the neigh- borhood of One Hundred and Forty- ninth strect and Third avenue for the last two months, and the authorities hope to discover the dealer who selin it. ———<—____ INCOMING STRAMSHIPS. DUB TO-DAY. a ae oC oe en, i te erdam, ee Se Going Away? F 3 ri Hr i F ‘Trade Mark.) evi of pea: al treats We; O@ Top of Mead. Pa seas. te donathan @ Baniee fe 8 a year-old Trinity College committed suicide at his home here during the night, pete Pel his head with o shotgun. . charged the weapon by pressing the, tet with tile toe. ‘Mental troul to overstety le, nad worry over a coming tion, fe believed to have caused ect. mod Whe Said © Strawberry Fe fa a RATS! rLOUE eten Ae ev “Remember, my dear, Good Teethk. oping means good health winning smiles—bdoth indispensable to eocial success.” Rely on the habitual night and morhing use of Cleanses the tooth by the harmless method of polishing. emooth, gritiese powd the formation of a. @, TY CARP T 60d. LUNE ChEAl ING 265 Wont 4 City. i later, Ketice ot tuners! 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