The evening world. Newspaper, November 9, 1912, Page 7

PLAYER-MANAGER IS USUALLY BEST NEWS OF ALL T "Lt Lean cessors Left. - BY BOZEMAN BULGER. HB wholesale release of base- ball managers and, game time, the exceeding re- Jectance with which the owners part with players, once more brings up the question as to whether the suc- cess of the players is due to the ability of the managers or the suc- ees of the managers is due to the ebility of the players. Excepting a very few instances wach as the career of McGraw, Con- ate Mack and Fred Clarke the evi- dence seems to point in favor of the player. This is shown by the fact that the owners are more loth to pert with their players than with their managers. The recent world's series throws 8 @ood Hight on the question of what makes the ball team—the players or tho manager. In Stahl's case it is undo:bt- edly the players. As the manager of Washington Stahl was a failure. He ‘went back into the game as a player and then retired. Coming out of retire- ment he assumed the management of the Red Sox and so great s the ability of his men that he w ried iato ® world’s championship. WHEN A MANAGER MAKES GOOD WITH POOR TEAM. With only one year of experience and mo opportunity to make changes in his ‘olub it can not be said that the success of the Red Sox was due to the manipu- latéons of Stahl. On the other hand the New York (Hants, throughout th country, are looked upon as an ordinary ball club with an extraordinary man- The true test comes when a manager takes a shattered team and gradually bullds up a winner. The only men that have done that are Connie Mack, Fred Clarke and Join McGraw. Frank Chance ought to be included in that class, but he was left a corking good team by Frank Selee and th ying that Chance ! reipecet hie team, Chance did not @evelop as many players as the others hough he made a trade right at the start that gave him @ championship. He managed to do this by securing Jimmy Sheokard, Harry Steinfeldt and Miner Brown. Since then he has de- veloped very few youngsters. Mee. inastity on the part of mana- gere to develop and bulld up teams is largely responsible for the wholesale re- lease of managers this fall. The trou- ble with these men is that they were hard put to make a reputation 80 as to hold on for another year and did not have the opportunity to start at the bot- tom and build up for future years. ‘Roger Bresnahan tried to establish a foundation for a club and had fairly good success, but he did not go fast enough to sult the owners. Many base- bail men of the opinion that Roger would have done better if his contract had been extended over a couple of Bresnahan made a good pitcher out of the erratic Sallee and kept his team im the race that way for some time, but he didn't find another Sallee and he was also unsuccessful in getting men with great speed. DAVIS DIDN'T GET A REAL CHANCE, EITHER. Marry Di was shot into Cleveland without an opportunity of selecting his own team. He had to work with what they gave him, and things broke so bad- ly that he was forced to resign before the season was over, With a contract covering several years Davis might have been able to take his time and build a inaghine that would stand, ‘Bhe grouble with most managers, and at the Hockey TAKES (1's —— —- PLACE WITH F; AS & STURDY SPORT Ser VHT THe HEAD-PIN THIS IME | Baseball Problem Of Big Leagues Many of Them Are Not Given Enough Time to Mould Teams but Are Ex- pected to Make Good With What Their Prede- | “But I'm sure that Kelly leads them “During the game I have in “King plate wi @ chance to touch the runner. When time. that was true in the case of Davis, is that they make too many experiments with youngsters, Connie Mack and McGraw never use an untried man un- ‘il he has considerable seasoning and chance to absorb knowledge of the wae on the bench. Othér clubs, how- ever, cannot do that. The manager has to work in a hurry so as to make good and hold his job. Connie Mack was a failure as man- ager of Pittsburgh because he could not control his players. He said that taught him a valuable lesson, After leaving there he decided the only way to have a winning ball club was to get players of his own selection—those that he man- ages. McGraw works on the same prin- clple, Harry Davis might make a good manager if given a fair chance. Harry Wolverton also made the mis- take of trying too many experiments with youngsters, Coming direct from the minors he failed to observe the fine Points of difference between minor league players and ig leaguers, He found to his sorrow that new men would not do to win a champlonship. He iN the plate his quick brain solved the question, hand when the ball was right on him, tagged out the runner as he swept by. “You must remember that Kelly had to He did it and saved the game.” ec, the runt FeTaLnes Have. BEEN KNOWN To OCCUR EVEN BowHNn WHY SOME Baseball’s Quickest Thinking Done by Kelly, Says McGraw According to John McGraw, the quickest thinking play that he ever saw was made by King Kelly, the greatest of all catchers, “There have been many instances of quick brain work,” said McGraw. mind there were runners on second and third, and if they both scored the game would be won against Kelly's team. The was behind the bat and was fighting every inch of the wai the batter drove a line single into left and, of course, one It was up to him to stop the other and wide and to the left of the plat. and realized that he could not get the bail with that if he jumped for it so ae to get it in both ve the game. The throw to the Kelly saw the runner coming ‘his mit hand. He also realized hands that he would not have ner was within fifteen feet of He threw the mit from his feft speared it with the bare hand and figure ali this out in a second’s ‘TUNING UP FOR THE WINTER SPORTS ic} Finally of the runs acored. SS ar aeinens aneeubnanititonsnane, | APA kept trying, however, his club in last place. and finally landed Wolverton was more unfortunate than any of the deposed managers in that he lost most of his good players through imagine what would have happened to ‘the Red Sox if thelr famous outfleld had been out half of the season? WOLVERTON WAS LOOKING TO. WARD NEXT YEAR, The Highlanders lost the services of Cree, Wolter and Chase at the same time. ‘That is enough to put any club out of the race. Seeing that he was beaten, Wolverton set about building up a team for next year, His judgment may have been right, but the result was So disastrous that he had to retire. There {s no doubt that Wolverton made many mistakes in the handling of his pitchers, but if he had been sure of another year's work he might have brought the public around to his wi y of thinking, In getting rid of Frank Chance it is Fencrally believed that Charley Murphy made a colossal blunder, We must ad- mire the nerve of a man, however, who SHE LWES Dow-w-N 1 IN OUR ALL-E-E-EY) Winter HEADLINERS ON THE SPORTING 3 iL} STAGE MANAGERS FAIL Subject Aga in Brings to Whether Mana will depose @ manager who has won four championships and a fortune replacing him with an erratic fellow as @ leader, The release of Johnny Kling nized leader like Stalling: to charge. Kling went into Mice fix. es and there pointment. “Hank” O'Day's downfall was due to his lack of executive ability. been in the office of umpire so 1 that he did not understand the rather subtle art of handling a lot of young accident early in the season; Can you| fellows who have different temperne The players did not like him oa ments, account of severe discipline and co not get their heart in their work after the first few weeks. what some of them way, IF THEY HAD GOOD TEAMS START WITH, Another thing O'Day was that from the bench, only man who has ever been able to away with that, of fun on the bench. where strict discipiine does not alw go. In other words th of comrades Getting bac it any one of t jfhad been lucky enough to have a g team behind him he would have proclaimed a wonderful leader, {After ail tt may be that the play, make a successful team as often as managers, to the original sut deposed mana Bom- Bom. SLAMBANGO kids! Question Among Fans as , Make the Players or the Players Make the Man- agers of Winning Teams. who has no experience whatever not due so much to his lack of ability as to the chance of getting a recog: take with Iittle hope and came out in the same Nothing much was expected of tn can be little disap- Uke to see their leader on the coaching ne in uniform. They also like a sprit WELL ~You HIT ME FIRST - DID You NoT? IF You STRIKE ME AGAIN | SHALL Sau. Tae (circu Fon. me! ABour THE ONLY WINTER SPORT Sata ENdoy WITHOUT BEING ol G50 TO WITNESS SCENES OF BRUTALITY ~ 15 BoxinG \ Gor ONE FOOT on THE FLOOR. Up ers ACCIDENTS ARE NOT UNCOMMON IN "THE GENTLE GAME OF Pook English Lightweight Title at Champion Matt Wells Rules Favorite Over Challenger Freddie Welsh. —— him and like was fought Ad Wolgast, Panag re on, i Lesislature has revived wn as to the likelihood of boxing belag in Mlinois, According to the Chicago moters, a bil! has been drawn for pre the Lexisiature, and it is said that the “new wembe ould | with ‘ays | Ushtwelght championship of England ai |lact stuart ee ‘was no feel! hate vropoded prosper: Ing | the National Sporting Club of Londoa | i'lts there for A cau boxera ate entirely oy next Monday night that they have made | Srincipal “hustealfa ttt, aah him the favorite in the betting at odda | *hi elite a ‘Tom Audrews, a before thi : of 10 to & Both men are reported aa | try, BAe "ith Haven before they left this coun: |'iather than guffer this inj Mt our being In the best of condition, and also | id Btu junder the required weight, 135 pounds, | feTntowh pal whien rai way how round trip theketa, Dahlen Signed by Ebbets. 70 Manage Dodgers for Fourth Consecutive Year es President of Brooklyn Club! Declares He Thinks Bill Has Done as Much With Team as Frank Chance Could Do, “I consider that Dahlen knows as much Inside baseball as Frank Chance, and that Chance could do no better with the club than Dahlen hi I ture ther believe that Dahlen has done re- markably well with the material he hi With these words Charles H. Ebbets, President of the Brooklyn National League Baseball Club, to-day announced that he has selected Bill Danlen as manager of the Dodgers for the next campaign. This will make Dahlen‘s fourth consecutive year as the pilot of the club, For some time the fans have deen led to belleve Ebbets would go after Chance or some of the other man- agers now in the market, When he made the announcement Eb- bets wore “a smile you could gee a mile.” He sate “Gentlemen, I asked you to come here T have sig of the Bi After having a talk with }for the purpose of informing you that ed Bill Dahlen as manager klyn Club for next season. the other stockholders of the club we all decided that we chance as manager of the team. Dahlen another We would give feel that he has built up the team from the botto: far stron: was manager, , and that to-day the club is than at any time since he 1 am ready to spend all the money for players that Dahlen de- mands, and I feel confident that the Brooklyn Club of 1913 will make @ much better showing than it has in many years.” “How long does Dahlen's contract call tor?” Ebbets was asked, “One year," he replied, “Before selecting Dahlen as man- ager,” concluded Ebbets, ‘the stock- holders talked over all the managers, and we finally came to the conclusion that Dahlen fills the bill." “win Dahlen have the say as to where the team will train? was the next question put to President Ebbets. “Yes, next hat will be up to him, and I think Dahlen is going to start jouth month to look over a sultable Place for the team to go through its spring training stunt. Some place in Georgia will most likely be selected, as the grounds down there are good and the weather {# generally fine for play- ere to Ket into condition.” HOUCK DEFEATS SMITH IN FAST BOUT AT “PHILLY.” PHILADELPHIA, Nov, 9.—Leo Houck, the crack middleweight of Lan- caster, did not box up to his usual form last niwht, but by the clever use of a left Jab he outpointed Dave Smith, mid- dieweight and heavyweight champion of Australia, at the Olympia A. A, in a six round bout. The Australian had a big Pa., X often outpunched vorite, the Lancaster fa- Honors were about even at the end of the third round, but after that Houck took the lead and held {t to the finish, The fourth round was the best of tho fight. Houck brought blood from Smith's mouth and partly closed his left eye in the fifth round Sundi device which makes int ‘Phere will lay Worl without the vantage in height and reach and! ouildren “ be a id good for « CUBAN EXPERT STILL HOLDS THE WORLD'S POOL CHAMPIONS} is still held by Alfredo De Oro, fended it for several years. The lat challenger, Frank Sherman of Wa. ington, started well and led the fi night of the three-night match, but veteran De Oro caine ba Score stood: De Oro, 600; Sherman, The deciding block consumed twen! four frame, twelve times, De Oro's man's, 2. Just to give the crowd a ‘taste ach held seven scratch: best run was %; Sh sponsive to his touch and his posit! Was so perfect that the Washing: thallenger was blanked at the start. has a@ challenge in The pool championship of the world Cuban expert who has successfully di k strong, and when the match ended last night th in which each player broke have never met Frank Chance What he could do De Oro plunged into! After the race Mr. Appleton explained | under any ‘viroumat and I have the pyramid in the Anal block of points, |!!i# action by saying that he thought |not, directly or indirectly, offered to and after some fidding at safety ana| Windrow had Kone the wrong course | ¢! . ne a Lived pe eee Oe 8 taking advantage of Sherman's migsing| 4M that the stewards would disqualify aa Or cheuae tee eee | of & combination the old champion | Him. But the officials cefused to allow | S7rh Seam Mr Chance a the pr eam, cleared off the table. He was his old) Mr. Appleton’s protest. and It would be a violation of the rules masterful self. The cue ball was re-| The result of the race to-day will lor organized baseball for The Piping Roc . he report has been Steadinoss was the feature of the de-| ‘The Piping Rock polo pontes will race [Harry Davis, The report h fending champion's cue work, ‘This|for the last time this season in the |apread that [I was negotiating with aa the shal axciaia ine Ae venth race. The distance is a mile, |Davis, T have not had a word, directly od. ee ean Why De Orolt, will teat the endurance of Teawe, {or indirectly, with the ex-Cleveland | forged ahead. He was no better at| Playboy, Greased Lightning and Num-| manager and have made him no offer of combinations, often not as good, but hej ner Twenty, the best of the ten an,jany kind, I ‘have not seen er heard had the skill to keep away from getting| trants, from Davis since he was here with the |sewed up when he had @ chance ———— Cleveland club at American League Only twice was Sherman able to clear Paddy Lavin Be: Br P. the table and that was in the eleventh! BUFFALO, N. Y., Nov. dy eee roe and ‘seventeenth frames. De Oro cons | Lavin had no diffculty in winning from | Wilses Family Group tinued steadily to lead him at the end! Kid Broad of Philadelphia, when the | pree Yor the ‘Conpon. 7 of the twentleth frame, the sore stand-| latter would fight, whigh was only at Every reader of to-morrow's Sunday ing at a grand total of 515 balls for De! intervals, in their ten-round bout here| World is given an opportunity to obtain Oro to 437 balls for Sherman, Ei Mateo night. Broad spent most of his time|a large photogravure of the next Presi- for De Ora and '| Jerome Keogh la next in line, 1 aly wit el orm ew 4 (nb #128 for defeating Jim Coffrotty, the fight pro “he AO | ciao. has finally piven unea r ape ard which McIntosh anid Ad Wolgaet tor a fight with Willie ititchie, 4.000 at the’ most, Californie Ege la ops ate foatn ios. baat ehh ent et | Sumy Dunn, man of Johnny Kilbane, fiiteny the ‘Prise | it, | featherweight champion. who lias started a hei P ay." Woluast has greed | *XCH¥nEO im les eland, 19 flalt ‘some good Lghtwelght for Coftrothenew {card to all the fight «fu Year's afternoon, ‘y, “Mr. Matchmaker ement, — When oF phono me aay tie 1 have forty boys under my A match bas just been clinched in England be ak tween Owen Moran and Jem Driscoll, the English boxers, ‘They will cv twenty-rouned ne Natl not Landon weeks 000 and the signed up for tweigiit, same clubs Thre ' eas ° Jue Mandot, the New Orleans lightweight, who | hig y will box ten rounds, Farrell Is in No Hurry to Decide Racing Matinee At Great Neck the f On New M Sh- | Seven races, in which will appear nu- n ew anager rst | merous hot of class, are carded for oe eee the|the matinee given by W. It. Grace on| Sine@ the announcement that Harry his estate at Great Neck this afternoon, | Wolverton would nv anage the High- ‘The races range from a quarter mile to| Mnders next year, Owner Frank Farrell three miles over the steeplechase course, | Mas been deluged with suggestions as to A notable gathering of society folk is| Who should bt his successor, Most t¥- | expected. prominently mentioned have been Frank The sixth race will bring together{Chance and Harry Davis, ex e%| Web Carter and Windrow. In their | of veland, ‘arrell ta er- | previous race Windrow won because KR. the suse ons, hh ove he will take his time, He following statement last hundred yards, t Ave out the Appleton pulled up Web Carter in the hve Guy 5B ot tend to show whether Web Carter or Windrow 4s the better horse. The re- sult of the first race was a “fluk ion ton him any sort of a propositi gotate with him tn any way, “The same thing virtually applies to ED.TED BY ROBERT EDGREN HS, WILSON WON. He is to be the next President of the United States, Vv and I take my Irish tweed hat off to him. Glory be! Hoo, aw-woo! That tan't a yawn. It's a suggestion! T have been reading @ lot of inspired atuff from editorial fellows. De you know I at times begin to think there was @ political contest in thie countey? Well, maybe there was. Somo say it was a joke. But holding my irrevocable eye on the ticker and my left bossy finger on the telegraph sheets, I wae compelled to admit that efter all my Well, he waa. And so was I. But it was a helluva disturbance. “B kindly-voiced, gentle-hearted Judge John W. Goff when he started agoin’ the trial of the four hired mur- | ia of one Herman jer. “Be seated, gentiomen!” I knew John W. Goff as @ hard-work- ing attorney. I have followed his vai ous moves in life since he was a atrug- sling entity in the oMctal life of New York County. I was at his elbow when he broke down the barrier between the illegal joy resorts and the police that led one Schmittberger, collector for Capt. Willams, to admit that the toll was regulated only by the amount of Rosenthal, gam- old at kick, the Mooser, was @ looser. except to win. iN-fated Becker was on his way to Ging Sing last week Mr. Yullus sat on the front of the death wagon while the moving picture machines were and Yullus was caught with his hands @erenely crossed over his breast. Tt amused me, therefore, to see in ay mall last night @ suggestion to the effect that Yullus is preparing amendments to w which he hopes will Be Stake Monday 4 ten-round nodecision bout there wah! happen to a snake if it were cut in two, tas left for Los Angelee, where, 90 var what they could carry away. And, @o, it must be sup! satistac- tion for Judge Goff to sit in ease and, looking backward at those Lexow hard- + “BRING OUT THE NEXT Wonder tf te was Joking when he said to the four gunmen, ‘Be seated, gentle- men!" If he were Joking it was in a Gaynoresque P. 8.—Oddl; Yullus himeeif. way. ly enough, a whole lot of | those Lexew victims got away soot |‘ree-and_ got interest on their back lee at the Ts HON. YULIUS HARBUROER, who thinks he has discovered @ lot of things about boxing since Gov. Dix asked him to see @ couple of I THE MATTER OF AGGRESSIVE VIRILITY 1 i i It to t live @ long following query: al WURRA WU! : A says you cannot kill a enake a¢ once because the reptile die until sundown. B claims that it ie mere superstition, the sun has abeclutely to do with o snake's life. As there might be @ lot of your readers who are interested argument who would be guided by your decision I woul consider great courtesy if you would kindly enlighten, through the medium your valuable paper, the phenomena exhibited by the wrigsling meve- ack ment in either the tail or head ené of the serpent been cut in two. Yours ¢ruly, Horace, old pal, when @ mere boy I ran [anake (God be good to us) In Mayo, and there to say that snakes couldn't ive in Maye. has Why don't you ask a priest? WURRA WURRA: I anxiously O-NIGHT awaited your Saturday's issue of ‘The Evening World and was grati- fied to ee you interested yourself tn the puszle about that erratic frog. I beg to submit my figuring of | eight jumps which leaves a det- cleney of 15-8 Inches, although you BY JOHN POLLOCK. ha-rinnd bones Swit 3| guens elght jumpe would be 1-16 over. At least, that is LTHOUGH Matt Wells, the Ena-| {he ust it 6 Mande 00, ‘ab is Yours truly, _P. JORDAN. To sh lightweight champion, lost a teh : 6 feet 3% inches writera wi! be busy with the dope decision to Hughle Mehegan, the; xj)" WilTianea the Danton ", 2 feet 6 inoh ih ines tables. The meets of Bad Agnes have ah that worked against Australian iichtwelght champion, on a! aie as god as mercial (ese ot tattle 92 |2, £008 8 Inches 8 ee Wart heed aeeeminn he managed entirely | ful in the fourteenth round of a fittoen- | fe mune at tha fie woshs, |" INOnOS os srsaplinghen, EB. M. M.—No. George M. Cohan Is net Connle Mack is the|T®UNd go at Liverpool several weeks | nee Sino Have | irine ae far ae youve got, but, my|what you say he is. His father was @ get} 480, his followers nevertheless are so | & ws him better! dear sir, you're still 15-82 of an inch|dacint man and was born In the city ef The players, as a rule, | confident that he is golng to defeat | heads’ wit etits iE, | shy. Make good or don't come back. Dubiin. eddie Welsh when they come together vy Jeep poe That te 2 spit iin their twenty-round battle for the | aeiee tt us (Ohio) Lightweight, | w “Mt expecting to ace what the Mehbrowa and deep thinkers call an ¢ iJ making event. I refer to the fistic clash which le scheduled for Dec 3 | 4 in Madison Square Garden when "Pompadour Mike” Gibbons, he of the shifty | feint, will meet Eddie McGoorty the classy left-righter. Mr. Gibbons has jcondescended to put on about ten pounds of solid flesh and muscle and Mr. MeGoorty has graciously deigned to work off about elght pounds of the same material, This will bring those two great fletic marvels into the ring weigh Ing, Gibbons about 154 and MeGoorty 168 pounds. Mr, "Mike" has developed that short choppy wallop he always possessed and the tremendous power of which was first shown here when he shot it over on “Billy Gas Honse" Lewis, And well do I remember that night although I don't belleve Willle recalls it yet. That darting, snappy, shifty hook is now backed with more vigor and the force that comes from added weight. And Mike" hasn't lost a think in the way of ring wisdom that came from aie Connaught ancestors, As to Mr. Eddie. I saw him allp the comether twice in # few days on @ couple of English middleweight champions by using @ nate left tap to the chin followed in a second with a right dynamite cartridge to the jaw—and, “all out; take the car behind!" Eddie has that same Cannaught blood in him that flows through the veins of Packey MacFariand, Jack Britton, Mike Gtbbone, Johhny Kilbane ind mysel—what was T going to #ay?—oh, yes, he is chock full of that fighting blood that makes one fight hardest when he Is fighting his former best friend. And could [ miss seeing that? Nothing Mike It will be seen in the ring in @ generation. ‘There are no two men now in sight who can produce such @oods, F THE 1,000 MAJORITY that|The latest description of clam digging O voted for the Bronx County bill|is that it ls muck raking. Respectfully 10, are in the field for the Sheriff's job. Register's place. submitted to the verl-colored weeklies ‘The other #7 want the | *"™ monthiter The balance of thore who voted for the bill want to be County Clerk or County Judge. t hope they all thing. It may help to keep up there and give Jaded real orkers & rest MIKE SCOTT, the original Irish oleg Qnd soft sole and ship-it-over-easy dancer from Dubitn, is in town, I hear, but he didn't leave hii M 4 TRISH HE COUNTIES OHAM-| WORRA WURR. de PIONSHIP in the four-mile event Kindly decide the following wager will be run off to-morrow at and state reason for same: celtic Park, where the County Mayo! 4 bets B that by placing two patie men will hold forth, Tom Collins of | Water-—one hot and one cold—out ta freezing weather, the pall containing tho cold water will freeze the quicker, Kindly let me know which ts righ and oblige yours very truly, John Daly of Galway and John MeNamara from the Cliffs of Moher will be the contenders. I'm thinking that Collins wit win, His ancestors were forced to be good runners when Crom- well chased him into the western bog- 4, shouting “to Hell or to Con- naught.” Put a ittle bet on Tom. Hol- ler “here comes Cromwell" at him and he'll beat the gun! Mayo, Th, a typical query, Why tn Hanover should any one pub out two palls of water—one hot and ene. cold-—to determine-— Why have two patls in Brooklyn, amy- way? HEN “MUSH" M'CAFFRBY, for- merly an expert cabby, heard Leader George Donnetien of the Twenty-sixth District ‘kive out the oris- {nal parade order for the big Wilson and Marshall parade he arose to re- mark: “Mr. Chairman: If I marched up Fifth avenue wearing @ plug hat and a Prince Albert sult somebody would hand me a whip. But “Mush” fe aisy in mind now. didn't have to wear ‘em, HAT I HAD TO SAY the other day in which I took the position | that clam digging was neither —_———>—_—. Those Would Be Happy Days, Now Woula’t They? hospital in Michigam, ‘The writer says he knows what the weather will do, where anh when, and that for $8,000 he will frame a National League schedule that will provide gapes in 1913 only on sunshiny days.“ He says ought to mean at least $50,000 to club own: Mr. ering up so that Lavin could not dent and his family. Get to-morrow’s to him. Sunday World, i ye farming nor fhing and declared it was || wittten declining the offer, mmintaglpas culled & wide protest, atthe