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“a . | \ HEE H rr | HH is fee i i F i th Ht a i i i é 5 H “On July 10 Becker called me at my nome. ‘ MM GAVe BECKER WAS IMPATIENT AT DELAY. te _PHe a oy a yn oo tw asi a ~ “sas I told Rove I would silo waid he would eee the e make any plana? A. Rose “ get the gunmen and tet my place. Then I w oe A. “Letty Louie” and an have any talk with Beoker of the Gam Pau! outing? A. “Damn it get on the “J FROM BECKER UT SUBPOENA. Q. On July 8 id you meet Rose? A thes, Yea, He came to my. poker-room at 4” tho, C'elock and said Becker had told him a be @@bpoena wes out for four men to go ther before Whitman to corroborate the story wae Metenthal was tolling. about, Becker. cha Those men were “Dollar Joba, “Abe “it the Revelier,” “Abe” Hahlo and Rose, tho J@tk Rose sala Becker wanted me to "@ 96@ those men and J did. That night T se enw Becker and Jack Sullivan in Madi- 08 \Bquare Garden, but had no talk with ni ‘Phen I went to my poker. met Sess Pau. “Dollar” Loule.” “Whitey” Lewis My nh Wn wae the first mention of sam Paul's name in connection with the muréer. ay ~ on Od a « ba Webder “was talking in @ voice that ov wna ebeolutely wooden im its lack of e8ptession and freedom from passion Ge emetion As he told of Becker's vill- Rodded his Mead and snapped his Nos by way of emphasis. His little biéek eyes blinked and. his ayelide he got along to his @teeunt of how Becker had urged the .“eroaking” of the gambler, but pip Still held its cold, passion- niidpe. . Thp defense was shouting @bjections, which were ig by the: save by & nod of bead to: le them and an in- je, whigger to the stenographer. his story of his conf with the gunmen, Webber va} ik GOERS OUT TO LOCATE ey * ROSENTHAL. AGyp asked if 1 had seen Dago Frank F, ey Rose. 1 said no, but just at that en house and has the wuto num- ber’ got the right number, eaw the-—— lying there and 3 felt like taking my Fnife and cutting out his tongue as 6 warning to future equealers. MW the only thing to Go is to keep the fellows low. Tell them to get out of town.’ Rose #aid he had no mone: to m dollars and that will make fifteen hun- dred dollars ? owe you. Say, fellows, I passed the Cadillac in a me hine about 1.20, an@ I eaid to my chauffeur, ‘C:to, (Aversi) if we see that ———- Roven- be trouble.’ h . Tteft Becker about 4.30 in the morn: ing Gnd Jack Rose and I went 6 . baths. At noon I gave Jack Rose the| him at stills’, Roge and Dago Frank came up. \ tao ther 1 mito My poker room, where I Hest 4 F t ‘Ber, Mose wotites Mr. Metntyre that ppc examination was ended, and @risoner’e lawyer went after the Gihese. fret gentiy end then almost ald ‘Webber he was thirty-five years a Sie for a8 bene, bore ta, shit. oper” came gpeke just as loudiy end clearly as he had wile under direct examination. He lated bis hands together again, threw Pears treet Bald 98 etitute of defance. IN@1®7S ON GETTING DETAILS ‘ OF THE RAIDS. Becker's attorney wanted specific men- ten of house raids against Weber's gambling places, and the witness Thirty-fourth street by Capi in amy other gambling houses? A. No, sir. Q. What other business did you have veaidee gpmbting? A. None. I've been ever gembie in Herman A. No, ‘sir, i gamble in yours? A. Pos- ever have a glace at No. 9 went to the Metropole . Ti I Herman Rosenthal.’ I rah back to my poker room and told the fellows. Five of them left—Lefty Loule, Gyp the] @. When? A. In the fall of lant year Blood, Dego Frank, Whitey Lewis and @ fifth man. 1 do not know who be was. I stayed thore five minutes and then walked to Broadway and Forty- second atreet. I stayed there a few minutes, and then went back to my| Hundred and Twenty Iked Dack to. Broadway and Forty-Afth street and poker room, Later I stood there & few moment There I heard that Herman Rosenthal hed been killed—a man told me. Q. What did you do after that conver- sation. Q. I went on and met a man named Flaherty. We got into an open barouche and drove to the Forty-seventh street station. Then we got out and went 1 Q. Did you see anybody in the station house? A, No. Q. Where did you go then? A. To the Cadiliac, ROGSENTHAL’S BODY IN FRONT OF HOTEL. Q. Did you see the body of Herman Rosenthal that night? saw it lying 1o front of the Metropole Hotel, ' Webber said he went from the Cadillac Hotel to his poker room, where he met Jack Sullivan and talked to him about the murder. Q. Did you see Becker again that Jack Rose and Jack Sullivan were there. “What @id Becker do then?’ asked Mr, Mons, The witness gripped hie lps, sripped the arms of the chair with hie bands and totked tn a loud voice. SAVS BECKER CONGRATULATED | THEM ON THE JOB. “Booker,” be sald, “came up from the corner of Sixth avenue and Erected me, Me said: “3 congrat- Slate you, Webber, you have done & Go0e jod. got what he Aeservet.’ ‘Then Becker spoke to Jack Rove and congratulated him. “Jack Rose «nid: “Whitman t* over, at the sta. ker aatd: , they haven't Becker turned give Jack @ thousand ‘Bridgs THE JOB DONE, BECKER’S FIRST omlered food for them. At 1.20 o'clock in the morning, Rote asked me where Rowenthal was. I put on my hat and A. Yes, 1 aid. 1) [They were “Lefty Loule,” | Blood” and “Dago Frank. ee white women. A. No, sir—certainiy not Q. You say you met Becker with Rose. When and where? A. Dosens of times he raided Rose's gambling house @. Where? A, Downtown, te mighty good. ber down to fixing the sxact 4a Beventh avenue, when Becker first to have broached to Web! years’ standing. Q. What was his name That's the only name I ever knew him on Second avenue, mostly in the Crye- tal saloon, Q. You knew him twemy years and didn't know hie name? A. That's the Only name I ever knew him by. MAY SEEK TO PROVE AN ALI FOR BECKER. | Mr. MoIntyre kept pounding at the j Witness for the exact date, in an a ‘parent effort—if he could pin the wit- | nem to a definite date—to prove that | 1deut. Becker was not in Harlem on that night., His most adroit questioning | falled to get the answer he desired, ox- nusht? A. Yes, at about 4 o'clock A. M. | cept that it was between June @ and {n front of the door of my poker room. jduly 1, 12. | Mr, Mointyre tried hard to learn the | Menttty of "“Iteky,” to ascertain if there had existed an engagement that |night between himself and Webber, but ot no eatisfaction from the quick. {thinking, fast talking gambiing house | keeper. Mr. MeIntyre, holding in hie hand notes of Webber's direct examination, Jumped from incident to inoident, without sequence, in an effort to trap Webber, but the gamblers answers were ready and glib, and the shrewd attorney falled to catch Webber with his guard down. Webber was forced to admit that Harry Valon, one of the conspirators, Was the keeper of & roulette house at No, 222 Kast Fourteenth street Webber said three of the gunmen came to his place oh Saturday morn- ing July 1% at 2 in the morning. ‘Gyp the He naid he had seen them only once before, in [HE EVENING WORLD, Q. The firmt time? A. The day after Q. Is your memory wood or bad? A. It Mr. Malntyre then tried to pin Weds Gate of the “murder meeting” at One fourth street and sald ir the | “oroaking’’ of Rosenthal. Beyond say- ing it was tn the latter part of June, Webber refused to be mpecific. He re- | membered the time of the meeting, he | said, because he had an appointment | that might with @ friend ef twonty A. “Itaky."* by. He is @ gambier who hangs out the Cafe Beaux Arts, at Fourth street and Sixth avenue, “Rose was with them,” he sald, “and they had been sent for to get Jack Zelig out of jail. thal, I'm going to back him up against | Scheyps, 1 never took him inte my the wall and take shot at him. Then ‘epeed ant Reep going.’ to thousand dollars for the gunmen and then I left him.” During a briet conference between Mr. Moss and Mr. Whitman Webber pursed his lips in @ peculiar smile and looked at. Becker, who had been fdget- ing in his ol ir and che’ eo on a pencil. ‘Q. Where ai money? A. At Fiftieth street. y uu give Rome the _ SEVERE TEST FOR WEBBER PON THE CROSS-EXAMINATION McIntyre Forces Him to Admit He Ran Gam- y bling Houses and an Opium Joint— Sticks to Main Story. Pen street? A. Yes. I ran an oplum Joint ¢ two y . you have & woman there named Bridget trom whom you got your name? A. No. Q. What was your Poll street piace? A. A place where people came to smoke opium. Q. Did you have street walkers, de- tes and other of that stratum come there? A.I did mot know what kind of people they were, Q. You know you were violating the law, didn’t you. A. Yes. Q. Do you use opium or morphine? A.T'@o not and never did. I never smoked @ pipe in my life, Q. Yet you sold it to other people for large sums of money? A. Yes, Q. Was Schopps there? A. I do not know, ' paid very little attention to confidence. Q. Now come back to the morning B you saw the gunmen tn front of your Dlace—why were they there? A. They were looking for “Jack” Rose. 1 found Third avenue and took Bim to the Lafayette Baths, where I had eent tho gunmen to wait. Q. Did you divcuss the murder then? 1 atdn't. @. Who 4d? A. Rowe, Vallon and the gunmen. They were talking of the mur-|'!" his chair. change in his expression. th oovente and! MADE his monosyilable responses he opened hit | never heard abouNTough Tony being NO PROTEST AGAINST mouth wide and rolied the words ov bis] pir. tongue, After each reply he shut hia lips] rel) mentioned It to him, Q. You knew they were Planning to| tightly and drew down the corners of der of Rosenthal, THE MURDER. kill Rosenthal, anything to save him? A. No, air. Q. Did you send to Rosenthal and tell No, sir; I did not. . Was Schopps there? A. No, air; I did not see him that night Q. Have you béen told that to convict Becker, accomplices have to be corrob- orated by @ person not in the conspir- acy? A. I never heard such a thing. Q. Did you read that in the newi Papers? A. I read very lktle In the hewspapers about our case, I didn't want to. HAS NOT TALKED WITH ROSE ABOUT TESTIMONY. Q. Have you talked with Rose about oration, or told him what you ing to tesetify to? A, No, air. Q. Do you say you never discussed thie case with Rose or Vallon? A. We isoussed the case, but did not talk about tho testimony we were to give, Q, And yet you three have been in prison together three months and haven't discussed the mony you 7 A. That Q. Were you at the Garden restaurant one night when it was proposed to kill Rosenthal? A. No air; I had told Ri I would go to see If I could find Ro: thal. “For what purpose?’ asked Mo- Tatyre. . “For — the — purpose — of — murdering — Merman — Rosen- thal,” answered Webber, with de- Uberate emphasis om every word. ROSE AND VALLON VISITED HIS JOINT. Q. Did Rose come there? A. Only gnce. Q. Or Valion? A. ¥ Q. And Bchepps? A. No. Q. Did Rose and Vallon use opium, A. No-—they came merely as friends of mine, Vablon came frequently, but he neither smoked opium nor used mor- phine. Q. How many women came there daily to smoke opium? A. Several. @. Young or old? A. Women about thirty or more, We had no young women, Q. How many men came there daily to smoke opium? A. Twenty or twenty- five Beveral thm Mr, McIntyre be- labored the witness with queations Becker whispered suggestions to At- torney Hart who relayed thom along to te notes which he passed across the table the chief counsel. Beoker also \. to the cross-examiner. BECKER DICTATES QUESTION ABOUT CHINAMEN, “Did you have Chinamen como there?" asi Becker had passed to him. rtainly net,” cried the witness, frowning as if the question had dis. tressed him, Q, Dido’t Chinamen come there with 4 Mr. McIntyre, reading the notes Q. Why wasn't Rosenthal killed that night?) A, Rome told the gunmen there was a Burns detective across the stres Q. Who sent the gunmen there? A. Rose did, and then kept them from killing Rosenthal. . Mr. Melntyre then tried to force Webber to fix the date of his every meeting with Becker, but failed, Q. Your memory # very bad about this cane, dan't tt? «A. No, sir; it is very 600d, Mr. MolIntyre took up a meeting be- tween Becker and Webber at Luechows, in Fourteenth street, at 9 o'clock P.M. Q. Wasn't that the night Becker had made w raid, and was there in the restaurant with a judge who was to fix ® ball bond? A. Yes, Becker had rakied Sam Paul. Q. Wasn't Magistrate McQuade there to fx Paul's bah? A. I do not know. But I did have a talk with Beoker that aight on Fourth ue, and he again urg*d the murder of Rosenthal, Q. Did you say you would croak Ros- enthal? A. Yes, I sald I would take care of him. Q. Were you shocked? A, Yes, 1 was greatly shocked, Q. Were you annoyed? A. Yer, 1 was. ANNOYED, BUT PROMISED TO HAVE HIM SLAIN, Q. And yet, shocked and annoyed, you , MONDAZ, OCTOBER 14,1912. Views of “Bridgie’’ Webber, Witness To-Day Against Becker i you were shocked, as you sald, did you communicate to anybody your feelings. 1 any trouble with ecker--he had never raided you? 1. Q"Wheli Fou! were asked to commit ‘on Fourteenth street near| ‘hiv murder voice dropped and he shifted there wasn't any As he uttered . Have you murdered other people? Q. Or been @ party to any murder? ever been convicted of | Q. Did you have anything to do with Killing Spanish Loule or Kid Twist. Q. Were you anxious to have Rosen- Q. He was @ business rival of yours? A. He was not. Q. Your jaw was broken, Q. Did you tell people Herman Rosen- | thal had it done by a thug? A. No, sir, Did Rosenthal have it done? HAD BEEN UNFRIENDLY WITH! ROSENTHAL, Q. Were you and Rosenthal friendly? A. No, we had been unfriendly for threo . Recause Herman Rosen- ' thal would borrow money and not pay He owed me'n thousand dol- Q. Did you kill him because you were unfriendly to him. A. Mo: Decanse Lient. Becker wanted it j that your place " but It did not interest me, tor it wasn't my house. Here the witness changed his position placing the elbow arm on the ar Die chin in th hollow of his hand, held this pose while he answered @ ore | 4 No or more questions *3 grammaticall With searcely 4 Use any slang language save in quoting ASKS QUESTIONS ABOUT DAVE MENDELSOHN, 2. You are trying ¢o ehield him, aren’ TA. No, sir, Q. Going back to your broken jaw— idn't you ‘ell 3ecker that Rosenthal had sou eaten up? A. No, y } Adn’t you ‘eil Hecker Rosenthal ‘| took you of in a cah, a0 as to hide his part in it A. No, Q. Didn't you tell Officer Val O'Farrell (now a detective for the defense) that Rosenthal hired Tough Tony Ferrace! to bu went ubead and committed | bit you with brass knucks? A. I did not. A. To please Lieut, Backer. Q. Vet tt pricke? your conacianaa? a. | Tough Tany im the Haaper Club? AT Q@ You knew Rosenthal was employing did not Q You hired Tough Tony to beat up #oma one else, didn't you? A. No. Webber denied that he ever had any- thing to do with Tough Tony, He’ had to do him, except when Vat O'Far- Q You never had any fear of Beoker, Did you protest, or do] his mouth in aa expression jn whigh|did you? A. No, alr, mingled a sneer and a rmile. Q. You said Becker bad promised to him there was a plot to kill him? A. | protect you? A. Yes. Q. And you went ahead? NOT MUCH SHOCKED AFTER SAYS THAT BECKER NEVER HARMED HIM. Q. Becker had never done anything to make you fear him, had he? A. No. Webber said he had never been in fear of Rose, Vallon or Schepps or any one else McIntyre mentioned to him, i Q. Then you weren't actualiy ir fear | of any one? A, No. Webber said be bad known a gambler named Rob Smith abont five years, He had not seep him shortly before the murder. Q. Did alongside of bis body " A. No, alr, oer. tainly not. ‘The witness said he had never talked to Smith sbout Rosenthal, Q. Do you know Jack Sulltvan, whose known him about fourteen years. was murdered? A. Yes. Q, Do you know who nh Loule? A. No, sir. Q. Did you contrit money to the man who killed bim? A, air. Q. Do you recall being called upon to contribute money to the man who willed Spanish Louie? A, That !s not so, Webber denied that he had ever nald to a man outside the Metronote that he urdered Span- t vid be done. ER SAID SPANISH LOUIE ROBBED HIM. Q. Do you know an officer named Duggan? A. Yes, Q. Did you ever say to OMcer Duggan Loule and Tough and that they had been hired by Rosenthal to rob }you? A. No, and it wasn't my place ‘that was robbed, Baker that Rosenthal robbed a stuas| ber suid he had heard of such a robbery house of yours on Third avenue? ir; T did not own the Place. It was Haryy Valion, tate re ee ld up ye vere you on the Sat Paul ou' held up and robbed by “Tough 4 "yen, with Vailon, Rose and &cheppi Asked whose place was robbed, Web- in Vallon's place, The witness denied that he had had an interest in Vallon'» place. Q. Was anything said about offering Rosenthal an interest in the Monopole stuss house on Second avenue? A, No. Q. Was anything said about the mur- loft |der of Rosenthal? A, Not one word, of his chair and resting) @ On that outing He [889 “1f Rosenth did you hear Rose we will have lis anything?” him killed before he too much nots croak him just ax A. No. iy ay Rosenthal?” ING AT THE OUTING, ant} was with you on the night of| A. No. \ aig sald you would have Rosenthal killed? don that outing? A, Yes Did Schepps discuss it? A. No; he wasn't interested in gambling. Q. Rut he hangs around with gam: ners’? A, Yew, Ho is known as Jack Rose's lobby+ «sc 1 do not know What @ lobby-gow is, lever said him that A'dn't stop accusing ttm o¢ ‘hat murder be mould @o ‘to you, Webber sald he wae artested on the night of ti jer denied to Cominissionér Dougherty that he participated tn the murder. nial? A. Yeu ing y our confession? A. Protectton. Q. Protection by whom? A. The Courts. 1 ever say to Bob Smith: “I| Jeould kil) that Rosenthal and Ite down right name Is Tacob Reich? A, Yes, I've! | Q. Did you know Spanish Louie who} desired that Rosenthal be murdered as) ‘ | was asked. as robbed by Spanish | Sullivan? A, Ten years. Q. Did Schepps say, time we croaked him anyway?" A. No. Q. Did Sam Paul say, “It would make | Becker would know | interest. iyou are particular you will wear | DISCUSSED GAMBLER’S SQUEAL. Q. Was Rosenthal's squealing dis- WEBBER HIMSEL Becker aloud to his ounse) witness if net known a# Vailon’ ow. sponsible for the murder of ute? AL Na +) i nied that Rosenthal had he (Webber) owen thal) nd that he had Q. You Med when you made that de. @. Did you seo a lawyer named Marshall that night? a. Yea. ‘Now, Webber,” said Mr. Molutyre, ‘a lawyer cannot testify concerning what @ client has eald‘to him. Are you willing to release your lawyer and let jock and Justice Goff askea McIntyre how long it would fake to fin- the cross-examination half,” repiied Mr. Mo- waid the Justice, “we not have « reves Webber wae questioned at some length jconcerning the statement he had made | to Deputy Commiagioner Dougherty. Some of the Jurors made ft known that they would like t have luncheon and | Justice Goff consented to take @ receas. |GOFF TAKES STEPS TO KEEP OUT “UNDESIRAGLES.” After recess Justice Goff put in force hig new reguiation, by which no one will be admitted to the tribunal | except upon the presentation of a per- | sonal pass issued at the order of the Justice. Newapapermyn and tists attending the trial were compelled to surrender thetr police cards to Justice the bearer of the card ie identified. These carde n turned in to the Court, so | were | that the names could be talten from them for the passes. This was done, so the explanation | want. to prevent undesirables from in- ding the tribunel, Reporte had been made to the Distriet-Attorney that mem- bere of the gangs were breaking inte court and that they were there for the Purpose of intimidating witnesses, How they got in, if any guoh did get in-ls & pofound mystery In view of the ordeal through which hose entitled to admis- sion had to cage—fert fighting ‘hroug ater harriers of solicemen, shen through nner ‘mertete, then past Police Captain Tierney and at last through the lines of the court officers, When Justice Goff returned to his. Place Webber was called back to the j stand. The witness told Mr. MoIntyre after he Nad attended the inquest tn th oner’s office Tombs. the Tombs that Becker had any con- nection with the murder. ‘Wabber sald he had never exculpated Becker in in bis talks with Mr. Whit- man. Q.-When a4 you make your confes- sion? A. I don't remember the date T Dell {t was in August. Q. Was it about the time of the find- ing the first indictment, July 29? A. I don’t remember just when it was. Webber admitted that he had talked to the District-Attorney before going into the Grand Jury Room. Q. Did you instruct your lawyer tn tell the Dimtrict-Attorney that you would be- some a witness for the Btate if you were granted immunity? A. No, sir, Mr. MoIntyre brought out that the wits had signed « stipulation with the District-Attorney. Webber said he id no t record what was tn the etip- ulation, Q. ‘What were you promised for mak- Q. Who? A. Judge Mulqueen. ft Q. Did you see Judge Mulqueen? No, my lawyer saw him. * Webber ‘naisted that he had not read the stipulation he had signed. “Was aot that stipulation read to your" ‘Y‘en, it wae,” said Webber, quietly. PROMIGED IMMUNITY IF HE TOLD THE TRUTH. “Now, what do you remember you were promised in that stipulation? pur- sved the lawyer, Ja the promise of immunity the thing that makes you tenttfy?’ asked the law- sustamed. Mr. McIntyre then called for the pres- entation of the signed stipulation, which Mr. Whitman refused to produce unless Mrected by the Court. Justice Goff re- | fused to order the document proruced. “Who else eigned the stipulation?” he Objections sustained. Mr, Melntyre ¢ried vainly to get the immunity stipuiation before the Court, but Justice Goff ruled against tm at every turn Q. How long have you known Jack Q. Were you in the Pollee Headquar- ters with Sullivan, and did you talk with him? A. Ye for two hours before I confessed. We were tn the same oell Q. How long before? A, Two weeks. Q.Did you talk to Rim concerning 4 statement you were about to emake? A. No. PAVING THE WAY FOR CONTRA- DICTORY EVIDENCE. Q, Did you occupy & cell in the Wert Fifty-third street Prison with Sullivan? A. Yes, for two weeks. Q. Were Rose and Vallon there? A. If any sort of —- Hat will suit you, i | We, croaked Rosenthal and would land our story is of no Q, Did Larry Vallon say: “Oh, Becker T has only one lite and a bullet might But if Derbies and Soft Hats, $3 & $4 id fou report eround that Rosen-; mething We met for! twe hours dally on our walks, but I did not tak to Suili- Van about this case, Q. At any time, 414 you say to Gulll- van, “I have promised Jack Rose $2,000 for him not to impitcate me?" A, No. 2. Did you ever hear Jack say: “Brid- 9, for Fed's éake don't frame upt’ And 414 you say, “T am on the band Yavion and I are feter- hat ve vill frame up the Mayor, 10, Hecker or anybody else to get OUt_of this thing?’ A. { positively did not my cuch a thing to Jack Sullivan at any time. Q. Old rou say anything Ike that in qudstance, or meaning the same thin ALNo, air. Webber enid he saw Sullivan in the West Side prison on Aug. & Q. Do you remember that you spoke to Bullivan'then and eaid: ‘Jack, I am awfully sorry for you; you are in an innocent position?’ A: Yes, air, Q. Did you say: “I am arranging with the. Disirict-Attorney to get immunity for myself, Rose and Vallon, and if you Want to, yoti can come in on [t with us?” A. No, air, 1 did not say that. ‘Thus far Mr, Mointyre had not broker down Welsber’s placid calm or wrought @ change in the sxpression of what, in Webber's eircles, might be called his broken face. ADMITS TELLING SULLIVAN HE WAS INNOCENT. Q. You 414 tell Sullivan you felt that he wae innocent, didn't you? A. Yes. Q. Were Vailon and Rowe prosent. A. No air. ‘ Q. Did you tel Jack Sultvan you we: willing to sign an aMdavit that he was Innocent? A. No afr. , “Ie he guilty?’ was asked, Objection dustained. Q. Did Jack Sullivan ask why he was sent to the West Side prison, and did you say ‘It was the idea of the District Attorney to get us to talk to you'? A. No er. Q. Did Vallon say, ‘Now, Jack, if you Gon't corroborate use, we will never get out. Whitman will indict us for first degree murder,’ and didn't you say ‘Y: bg you had better corroborate A. No Q. Were you present when Jack Rose ed note, and after which you sk Rose and Sublivan talked to- ? Q. Did you say to Sullivan, ‘You'd better come in and get the dbenoft of immunity’? «A. T told him he'd better ted] the truth. « Q. Did you tell him it would be wise to frame up on Becker? A. I told him he'd better tell the truth, that’s all. Q. Did Rose say to Sullivan sntt he was “going to frame up on Becker, that walf-vreservation was the first law of A. I never heard such a re- JURY SHOW UNUSUAL INTER- E6T IN THE TESTIMONY. The members of the jury were leaning forward tn cheir seats vatching the wit- nese ‘atentty “hroughout every moment of thie phase of the testimony, Q. Did you hear Jack Rose tell Bulll- van, “You had better some up and cor- roborate me and Webber and me will Get you out. A. No, air. Q.On the night of his murder aid you put your arms around Herman dto- senthal's neck ana say to him, ‘Never mind, Herman, I'm your friend and I'll take care your Did you, say that, there in the Metropole Hotel? A. I did not. a Q. When you said ‘Mello Mer- man you knew he was going to be murdered? A. Yes, str, “At that moment did you have a conacience?” w a. Objections sustaine r Q. Who else did you see with Ro- senthal? A. Moe Brown, _ Butch, Hickey and some others 1 did not know. ~ H “Do you know a man named Kirk?"! ‘Don't answer,” said Justice Goff. Q. After you saw Rosenthal you went back to your poker-room. “Describe your rooma? A. Tt is one big room, one, it up. ' ‘Did you omer supper for the gun-: men and them they could have all) | they could eat and drink?’ Objections sustained, i GUNMEN RUSHED AWAY TO DO; THE KILLING. Q. What a4 yon say when you returned? A. Only, “Rosenthal is ia the Metropole” Then all the | men rushed out. Q. Did you try to restrain them in any way? A. fT did not. @. Did you know then that they we going to the: Metropole hotel to shoot him to death? A. Yes. Was Jack Rose there? A. Yes. . Was there any protest from Jack Rose?” ‘ The Court—Don't answer. Juatice Goff spoke to the witness and asked him how many men were in his place. “Thirty or forty,” sald Webber. Q. (By MeIntyre.) Was Kirk Brown there that night? A. Yes. Webber said that Brown was hie manager. Q. Did he go atound with the gunmen? A. No, alr. @. Where aia you stay when the gun- men went around to get Rosenthal? A. Tt stayed in the place. ‘Has Brown a wife named Rachel?” ; “Excluded!” intervened the Court. The cross-examiner went back to the time of ‘the murder and got from) had left WAS ON HIS WAY TO HEAR THE RESULT. ‘Did you sit there waiting to hear of Rosenthal's death Objections sustained, Q. How did you hear of his death? A, pecial for Monday, the 14th "rol Monday's Olfering y 18 COCOA, Toten for £0 cupes SOs Milk Chocolate Covered Fresh Fruits lusctous seasonable fruits. cov Jacket of our Miike 15 a aa ee A Neat Af Io ORDER SAYS WEBBER yu? A, Vos: a lobbs-gow fe a o HANKS around end ‘vee off an- Eddys POUND ROX IC ine srreinchuaes ie oemcaisan: Stet I met Jim Smith on Broadway and he told me. Q. Were you going to learm whethe Rosenthal had. been murdeted? A. , was on my way to the Metropole tv \ learn whether the man had Been shoi. Q. Weren't you there when Hosenthe! was shot? A. No, sir, IT wis not. Q. Did you see Kresse (the waiter) the night o. the murder? A. N Q. Do you remember that he poin' you out tn the Coroner's Court ax owe of the actual murderers? A. No, si Q. Do you feny you were then wha Rosenthal was killed? A. Yes; { deny Q. At the time of the murder of Fta- enthal were you at or near the ¥ ropole? A. No, sir. T was in py p room at the time. Q. Were you present in the Coroner's Court when Kresne pointed you out one of the men who was present at the time of the, murder? A. No. a'r, Q. Did_you personally direct anybody to kil Herman Rosenthal? A. No, str. Q. Did y ou directiy or indirectly teil any one to kill Rosenthal? A, No, sir. ‘said that some weeks befor: ( tl it he had gone to One Hundred @nd Twenty-fourth streot and Seventh / avenue to meet Rose and Becker, it was at this meeting Rose alleged -#he first plans for the assassination of Res- enthal were discussed. 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