The Seattle Star Newspaper, February 26, 1918, Page 9

STAR—TUESDAY, FEB. 26, 1918. PAGE 9 ‘ot Sale Miscellaneous TOWTA FOR HAT AY Skw PANGS FOR TENT piled on purchase Meyer Apartments Wanted tA THR SRATTLE STAR The Star 30—-Fur. Rooms for Rent WANT AD nang, Stearn tot ; 7 PITONT MAIN row Hal <— y Heacon 2314 t KENT AP: | y VANS TEE WAR TORE | vi Ku ellaneous | ee yA Ht kines Madinon r ry ab ALASKA FUP a" TRUY fo Pacific ANVTVING A Effective May 1, 1917 TRANSIENT.-CASH. ADVER Co. Main 6686 | Jone PLANT » fleation § cents per Nne. Six time TRANSIENT 7 fn advance—any « Male We % Wanted BLIC EMPLOYMENT OFFICE KENMMAKING Hine or fraction of wn | 19 \- % Auction. S le SALE EXTRAORDINARY | *| An excettont v a for the price SING Por line per Six inser five CONTRACT ADVE! Per line per month Per line per m : " , Per line per m P RRY Per line per m 28 lines each © 7 , line 50 tines each line Bix monihas months, add 1 cent OPEN SPACE S00 Hines to be used In 1 year, per line 1,000 Hines to be used tn 1 year, per line Sige 2,000 Nines to be tised tn 1 year, per line SPRCIAI LA t MP. RrARTH PI DAY, PERT bed sete we ne fort Ho: 1 ‘ Phinney ALR WEDNE t dreesing ¢ " ker i, dreaser iden oak and ¢ 1 es table aa Vy cent : nial style al tot 9 t r A rm Lanc lnrae RATHS ON LEGAL ADS © of Wan Department. x19. Inquir Want Ad Departmen ibd iran | MAIN 600 ne 8 : a 3 The Seattle Star nel ee dre DIRECTORY = 2202) 2189 aventences, | LOG( Wilton, os €x10-6 1 for arnnnannnRrnnnnnnn Furniture for Sale | «TR | seekers | nar fume. | thie * pald workers look eaine in Furniture’ tn this Hee rates at top of first column. page. jeer vERS' EMPLOYMENT AGENCY LODGE NOTICES BLTIOTT BAY CAMP, meets every ‘Thureday Moose hall Reneca a. Visiting nelghbors cordial ty welcomed. 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PRLIC #TRNOS: | Queen Anne & ~ . ~~~ HOFEC WOLTAN | 84—Female Help Wanted hand Jefferson, near court hoes | ly reached for ministerial eerviees | LE NEW OR OFB DANCHH GUAWAN’| private pariore Mato teed taent. Hours | to § and 7 to - ” Fitth and Uetversity Pret Oe bold ANG PLATING fe c.. yr muste taught im 2 eS ease. tees Wide WANTED—oIL F * STEV University TICAL x3 “er Bra | ~~ 4 eres for | 109 Tne. = long oek. i WOCaR WORK F ae oak family twe adult Addreme 168 16th rose WantErs and renera Pun Racons Y4 AVA. ARTICT Ee 907 Tht yUsT WF ALL 4 wen AW WR Pe AY Res bs A222 |i ¥ DEVFTOPING KODAK WORK | M KAHAREPS— AN AT 1 AT CTHET RE fone” 10 conte @ roll. Jacobs. P.-T mae DANCING SHOOTS ¥ 7 ¥ Chances iv i 38—Busine: if M J » FARMS ( ATHY FARM NTHLY 405 fra Ay wa OPER Ride Mis amr ~ST0CKS AND BONDS FOr SANITARY 122-124, fancy olives ° at; 3 Ibe. seeded raixins,| black figs. tt fa id gece ripe 0, 4 Aewalt Pitiott M87 The Hippodrome. Fifth and Tintverstty RAL in hes SE FRFCTRICAT. RHA ARAN wore wete, 1291 Paneth : z OPTICIANS Praaer-Paterson Cos balcony bottle 10-A and up, delvd.; Ju doz.; Florida grape fruit, 2 talle 24-36, citrus powder, tollet paper, pke.; Ghirardelli's can. Stall 45, 3-| ups, & for 23¢; corn| Libby’s tomato soup, | orange, lemon and cans asparagus sing, 120 pkg; to Stall 102, Hills’ red Washington eream 490 Tb. Stall mall harp cheese, local putter, Ib, 2 Ibe pure fruit jam 18¢ pkg. ¢ * bby'a 12 133 SUPPLIFS box apples, | Power ‘eas & Gas, Wyo 10.00 10 Real Estate Wanted _ ~~ YOUR HOME Can de ent anton If ft meets the requir demanded ty a waiting flat of intendt ers now In our possession ; ‘and iat . , : ke. xed ann fii Pirro ey WARREN Pilots TART fi STORAGE Pernoe eron kan Wine Central Storare whtte Sreare~ns Wb JONER & PTT 817 Becond Ave. Main ier your at with me for sale. Prices F 418 Rorke Hide. 19..City Real Estate for Sa'e citron peel Maid ri q 29—Poultry for Sale FANCY hate to Sun rt ates at top | ™matoes, | coffee 41-Livestock for Sale wr at bosteht c paves, Tae SFCONT. BAND BAe poraer Pest ave 1918 Weatinke Main 0589. CLOTHING WT 7 z genutr Ib; 0 1860 Phone to #4 Aiken arti 18 Ib. 10¢. olive ner 4: $10 ne pure sauce herring ome [a anta , I in hot 1180 First ave. DAR RAR Tost and Found 4 ee fr river nned sol 17 Me each aT W OF Hep lie Ib, tb.; fish alla R 13-15, fancy potatoes, $1.50 de xe Florida grape ° 4 Ibs, 10¢ Alaska tur ng cod, 2 Tbe fresh Ib. Ibe. 15 h amelts, 10¢ nh Ib, Stat 159,| Heaut $1.10 box; po: | $1.2 onions, 4 Ibs. | stall rhubarb, Se Ib.; cook 10c. Stall 120,| Ie and 200:| Ibs. 25 HOTFIS AND APARTMENTS | SPW eraNnanD HOTRT Corner First Ave and Pine at salmon tt Burba extra tien k I phone in afl rooms to and 10¢ Ib. tomatoes, CORDIALLY 1 Free wore Me xweet potatoes, Weekly $1 to $2.00. 17 Yenler wa 8 Ibe. 25¢ 200 ‘ ind 93 week 11—-Acreage for Sale RAY you BA n THE STAR 6 for 10 WESTLAKE tr finn app ary ADWA E Automot viles ak 12 n THE STAR FARGAT each Ibe. 130, Monte 4 Ibs white figs, Stall 192, powder, 25¢ re and A yates at top ship be, 6 tangerines | 16e pkg. Post| Happy Home| tomatoes, 100| ke flour, | 2 Iba} 2 Ibs, farina pkg.; Clow's Uneeda Biscuits, | beans, 4 Ibs shredded wt natoes, 2 cans St 10¢ Del fra added about 20 n for $250 ance in 6 months A a4 10 Ac Clone to bent Lie 19-RO éorn 19A—RFAL Lite ESTATE FOR SALE LE HOMES For Sale eann terma are h Winton Mator Ga Miscellaneous | 29 Ihs poors at Card asking. for our new, ‘. 2 of paints, bullders roofing. ja RD & CUIFY at lowe 1a ren rooting. 9198. 81.70 and 210 tr cedar Inp siding. per 1,000 ft. 4.09 i rt flooring and cetitne 20.09 “ 4 v The largest factory in the Want, selling ws 5 og “ ‘ Airect to the consumer. We well any Grocery Annex, 18 Ibs. ova one. Ship anywhere, and guarantes | Pot 25¢ bottle maple syrup, ard eafe delivery I 500 tb; 8 large | n grape fruit, 26e; 3 10¢ cans sardines, Firat tong cans peas, corn, to c can Old Homestead M. J. B. cotts macaroni, 25e, Stall peanut butter, 200 loaf bread, 8 » bare fine hand soap, nox soap, 26 5 bara 4 Ibe, fine Jap rice, St HN} be Ib.,| SOUTH END | Thrift coffee, 3 Ibs, 69e;Hilla’ | so Ib; molasses, Av can 17e; gloss starch, Anderson's, 3 milk, lbe Ib.; pea meal, 120 SAV von WORK PA Tand from, n al 200; white THE STAR YS FOR LAND P ys. email 116 Third Ave Fuibbon tea PETERS, a 1948 pTOR LLTAM® 00 Ave. f, Monttle ann CIAUEY ame COLRY PrnaT I " NEAR 1400 Ibe. Ib good land: running ¢ - hoo! make e 206 m4 » Soap P can ARBDALE, Ave 160 MONKY? MEN'S aotta | Se 200 TO napt pont PUR r to Wate BAYT ann FROM 18 AD CENT OFF 1904 FIRAT OLD PALaB 1P BROKEN) PAID. CAME BILVER AND DIAMONDS JEWELRY MPO. CO, 412 1 ORLDG., FOURTH ) FLAGS hen & Co, ty Bt 22.-Furnished Houses BAW it in THE Ata r NEAR aBATT on ACHE terms AY you 7 Carolina 250. margarine, iTATt 7 ric I TRACT AVE FRETH (DON HIGH RS FOR OLD n . Rooms With Board produce 7 MATTY PRICE COLD, amir SERVICE aw Kt 311 Univer bP pkg cans Jelub rooms, | Madrona tomatoes, 10¢ can CITY ELECTION FIGURES MIXED, OFFICIALS FIND of | HUN TRENCHES | ©) SHATTERED BY “| FRENCH RAIDS BY HENRY woop United Press Correspondent wit’ EK FRENCH MIES IN THE FIELD, Feb. —{Delayed.)—Along the entire West front, from the junction with the British to the Swiss border, the French armies are now delivering terrific raids day and night | ‘They are likely to increase in num ber and importance until the either begin call off! unced offensive | fferent p of her show up care! wome Hugh ¢ of the are plan the figures n ¢ 1 well and the president H. Fitzgerald, the machines before and th bri count show In Precinet 18 ennt 1 vote wived altho the te 19, Caldwell re to the figures of the wan only ,ocording Ant In Precinct 8, out of a total of 205, | lwell recéived 14 ve nd John | hin opponent | I happen to know that particular figure is wro sald Caldwell, "I don't much fear the final count, but since the machines can't make a r take, it looks to me like a good idea to + up the carele the officials in copying the totals It might make {ference some time Fitegergald thinks the city might hold night seools to teach officials how to read figures. RUSS PEASANTS | c r ow wness of some Germar or thelr pre-ar The present raids from those of last winter pared on a big scale, wit artillery ntratior Ition, ‘They from a big being 1 kenme prepara hable | nfantry nly distingu that the German tions. eccupants and de | stroying trenches, fortifications and WILL FIGHT FOR THEIR SUPPLIES \ 0 oe scarred ‘Once the Russian peasants get 1n| trenches: possonsion of agricultural machin ery, they will fight and die for it, so there inn't much danger of » falling into the hands of the m ar attacks in | after capturing |imprisoning the Surprise Important elements ‘terized unquestionably | note of wil 1918 of- | name ® —) anding the ke ns. fensive operation» Professor George V. Lomonossoff,|and artillery density chief of the Russian mission of ways | equaled of communication, made thin state-| ‘The surprise is att ment Monday noon, at the Masonic!ing artillery secretly during the where he addressed men|night and beginning preparation of the Seattle Chamber of Commerce | without warning. The overwhelming and Commercial Club. donsity of the batteries permit com: | Rus greatest need ts @ ceNn-| niete preparation and destruction of tralized purchasing agency,” he con-/the enemy's trenches within @ few| tinued, Formerly several days were heretofore un ned by install of on th». r Stall 42, veal Ib; Stall 48, beast best ranch exgs. fe butt doz 2 dor. Jorne | Stall 16¢ Is in Alsace showed ing French recon ne, have fort! factories and ne of rein “Russia ts ready to buy all) pours. kinds of supplies, and pay in rubles. | necessary, during which the Ger but the rubles have depreciated, and | mans rushed up reserves the financiers do not want them.” As a result of these tactics. single | Professor Lomonossoff, speaking| raids last week yielded er 600 the Brest-Litovek peace confer | prisoners. Likewise, where last win: | said ter the sole object of raids was to The kaiser negotiated slyly with| capture prisoners for the purpose of the Ukrainians and prepared his las-| enabling the French to obtain detail the invasion, for all Russians. | ed information on the German plans, Trotsky and Lenine, meanwhile, were the raids this year have another and trying to start a revolutionary upris-|/ most important purpose. The artil-| Kin Germany. The kaiser won. lery preparation for each raid com “4 pletely destroys the Germa first line positions and trenches, from which they could launch their com ing offensive. c | Saturday's rm “|the Germans, fea |quest of Alsace-Lorrs ages, farms, bread loaf; cookies ed vi con Stall 110, M. J Ibe. 996 Ibe. walnuts, 45e; dried peaches, 2 Ibs. 27¢ Me; white flies solid pack tom d peas 10¢ rr i. coffe soft shell applos, 2 Tha. 28 ck figm, 2 Ibs. | 2fe; Del Monte 160 can; 2 cans | 25e; 1 voce Stall 1 wh Co 3 tbe fresh lng cod, 2 Ibe. forced concrete fortn. Sheriff Stringer | Has Close Call Sheriff John Stringer narrowly es-| caped being cited in contempt of Pre siding Judge Jurey’s court Tuenda: morning. Stringer was ordered Sat-| urday to produce four IL W. W. in court Tuesday morning. At 11 a m. no sheriff and no pris joners had arrived in court H. F. Hammond, attorney for the 220 Ib.;| prisoners, did. | Mt. Vernon milk, 2%c; 7 Tbs.| “The sheriff te trif_ing with human | ne sugar, SSc. 1909 First ave., 25e/ liberty, your honor,” he said, “not to| can Wakefield kippered herring, 20c:| be here.” Stall] “What do you want?” asked the| 30 th.; | judge. “Want me to throw the sher-| botling beef, /iff in jail for turning the men you log of | represent loone?” j leg of tbc tb.| “No,” replied counsel. “T want him| onions, 5 Ibs. 10¢; potatoes, | praised for that.” kk, delivered; bananas, 20c| “Mest forget it.” «aid the 18-25, gingermnaps, | “They're loose. Next!" Ib; 1% Tha. best | “letachmann's | paper, wale bra L table no fumbla ri red snapper, 150 Ib. fresh herring, 2 Ibs, 16c. Stall 10%, Washington creamery butter, te tb., 2 Ibs. $1.40; peanut butter, Ike Ib, 2 Iba, 35e; full cream cheese. Armour’s margarine, pe r mmelte: i | | ans 6 bacon brand Anchor al r judge tall ; pretzels, 3 for L.INGHAM SOLDIER KILLED OTTAWA, Feb. 26.—The name of W. H. Barlos, of Bellingham, Wash., is mentioned in the Canadian cas ualty list today, as accidentally killed. | 100 be; toilet be. ECONOMY 24, pure cane sugar, & The. 65¢ milk at pt. Stall 40, 250 can K C powder live oll, 48e pt.; Schilling’s baking powder, 40¢ 2 Ibs. 450; 500 coffee, 1% Stalls 20-21, Yakima Gem $1.15 wt, delivered; best house rhubarb, 10 Ib.; rutabagas, turnips, beets, parenips, § N22, ling cod, 2 Ibs erring, 2 Ibs. 16c, 4 Ibe a river smelt, tb, sliced red snapper, Ihc Tb, Stall 39, v creamery butter, 50 fresh ground peanut Stall 27, best oleomar 35c Ib. 3 Ibs. $1.00; next beat oleomargarine, 31¢ Ib.; Libby's milk, 2 cans 35¢; crabapple or currarit jelly, in bulk, 17c Ib.; home made marmal ade, 180 Ib.; strictly fresh eggs, 50c Jon, Stalls 37-38, eans, 20 Ibe fancy Sta Stall 51, pure natura’ 10¢ cream, 20¢ new walnuts, table salt, 3 sacks 10c. PIKE PLACE 8 Ibs. fine cane sugar, 650. 1 pure natural milk, 10¢ qt.; cream, 20c pt. Stall 1503, seeded or ster raisins, 3 pkgs. 250; Sun Maid raisins, 13¢ pkg. Stall 29, 2 cans solid pack tomatoes, 250; dried peaches, 160 Tb, Stall 53, 2 Ibs. dried apples, 28c, Stall 45, best Yakima potatoes, $145 wack, delivered nions, 4 Ibs, 10¢: grape fruit, 8 for Stall 67, Carnation, Borden's or Federal milk, 12c can, Stall 43, pot roast, 17%e Ib,; boiling beef, 15¢ Ib.;| shoulder pork roast, 30c Ib. Stall 31, 25e coffee, 18c Ib.; 25¢ baking powder ie Ib. 10¢ extracts, 8c Stall 36, fresh smelts, 10¢ Ib,; skate, 100 Ib.; herring. Ibs. 160, Stall 1511, skinned soles, 2 Ths, 250; skinned cat fish, Tbs. 2 200 Ih.; bakin 2 5 Ibs potatoes, hot car Toe St fren 25¢; Columt 10¢ ushington Ine: Rogers’ butter, 17¢ Ib. rine, 5c 7 bare laundry all white ima beans, 4 Ib hoc; Bayou beans, Ib.; genul Alaska salmon, 2 na 35e; Santa Clara prune 3 Ibe. choice Italian prunes, 2 Ibs I large pkg. A. & H. soda, 60; large| yet? aap Ea | He’s Not Forgett noap. beans, 4 Ih ve you bought « thrift stamp Today is the day. ing—Are_ You? | anglish, Id be a good one to hang! tabl fome folks, don't forget to} kie is going to mail his letter as soon as he fin-| ink and stationery are provided in the library of He'll not forget. How about you? That d, with the reverse over your business desk and librar write youy boys! ishes that story. Per his training station, abips and CAN PUT NO TRUST IN HERTLING TEUTON RAIDER | GOT BIG PRIZES ON THE PACIFIC| LONDON, Feb, 26 of operations in thr and of the German raider Wolf is contained in the German of-| ficial statement, according to dis patches he he official communication de- clares the auxiliary cruiser Wolf has returned after 16 month» in the At lantic, Indian and Pacific oceans. The Wolf, commanded by Capt Nerger, is naid to have returned with 400 members of crews from sunken rich in raw ma terials seized from captured ships The kaiser has the ship's commander. The British admiralty statement mentions British, Spanish and Jap- Anese vessels sunk, and names three American abips—the steam whaler Beluga, the Winslow, four-masted schooner, and the four-masted schooner Encore, out of San Fran- clsco—aa lont. MASON WARNS AGAINST NEW PEACE OFFER BY J. W. T. MASON Written for the United Press NIEW YORK, Feb, 26.—Immediate- following the refusal of the Gere man militariats to offer Russia @ peace based on Wilson's four tundar mental points of the selfdeterminay tion of nationalities, Count Von Hert- ng has turned to the Western powe ors and expressed a qualified approv= ul of President Wilson's attitude. No trust can be placed in the cham cellor’s generalities, because they are contradicted by the imperialistic pol- icy of the Germans at Prest-LAtovalley constituting the first peace confer= ence of the war, Count Hertling may willing to subseribe to limited welf-determination in the West, but there i» nothing to indicate that he will accept the principle in the East, The United States is now fighting for the preservation of democracy in Russia, as well as the establishment: of democracy in the central powers. The story return 1 hono: CAPTAIN'S WIFE ABOARD SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. 26,—Capt Cameron, of the whaler Beluga, had hie wife and little daughter on the trip with him, and it is believed are among the prison@™» taken the German raider Wolf. U.S.RADICALS__| URGE RUSSIANS | TO FIGHT HUNS BY ROBERT J. BENDER United Press Correspondent WASHINGTON, Feb, —The | American government is etriving to| the utmost to stir the Russians to de-| fenne of their nation against the in-| vading Teuton. : Aided by radicals in this country, the government is continuing its edu- cational campaign in Russia’ Presi- dent Wilson is behind the new move ‘To this end the government is per mitting passage of hundreds of ea-' bles from radicals in this nation to, the Bolshevik leaders, containing dis- tinct warning against a separate peace and a friendly outstretching of the hand to encourage the strug: sling, wartorn Russians. In effect, these cables state “Your friends in this country hav stood by you until now because we thought and believed you were fight to throw off the yoke of autoc ‘ow you yield to that very au 4 militarism, encourage it your actions, and discourage mill f those who have supported You must fight.” The president has considered again speaking out in the open to Russia, but it appears likely he will do noth ing immediately, but wait spontane- ous reaction in Russia. MAYBE “THIEF” DIDN’T LIKE GOBLE’S PLAYING A thief entered L. Gobie’s room, in the Brooklyn hotel, 207 University st. Monday night and stole his cor- net, valued at $75, FOREIGN BONDS’ AT THE PRESENT MARKET ARE ATTRACTIVE INVESTMENTS ‘We sell these on our Partial Payment plan. Booklet 3-6 they the future relations between the Eastern and Western democracies if actual events were to show the slightest confession of Leon Trote sky's recent declaration that the | Western powers are prepared to saa secure concessions for themselves. trying to foster this Russian minds by his Intest address to the world. About Foreign Trade Tt is impossible to do any for- eign business without having # satisfactory banking connection. If you are going into the field it will pay you to discuss matters with the Foreign Department of the First National Bank, which can give you valuable information concerning foreign markets, ered- its, collections, exchange, ete, Consultation invited. racy tocracy by fons First National ~ Write or call for Security. Anglo-French, 1920 United Kingdom, 1919 United Kingdom, 1921 . Canadian, 1921 : City of Bordeaux, 1921 City of Lyons, 1921 City of Marseilles, 1921 . City of Paris, 1921 IRVING WHITEHOUSE COMPANY 1213 L. C. Smith Bldg. 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