The Seattle Star Newspaper, September 30, 1905, Page 1

The Pioneer One Cont Paper of the Northwest _NiGHT EDITION. READ DAN DEAN'S INTERVIEW WITH PRES. HILL, § “America’s Trade With the Orient Is But a Bubble that Has Been Pricked With a Pin!” 7 Peete eee ee ee eee ed RFRA ATER ERR The Seattle Star WASHINGTON, SA’ ECURED OW BOARD THE BILLION DOLLAR SPECIAL” SHATTLE, Build Another Vessel in this Country BUT WILL DREDGE OUT SALMON. BAY WHENEVER .FUR- THER ER ENTERPRISES, SOME OF WHICH THINGS FOR BALLARD—ALL MEMBERS OF ARE RADICALLY ANTI-HARRIMAN, AND WILL WAGE WAR tN THE ENEMY'S OWN TERRITORY IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED—HE DISCUSSES OTH WILL MEAN GREAT HILL PARTY SEERA RR RRR RR STAR'S GREAT BEAT The Seattle Star is the only pa n the United States that has had the honor of having a repr James J, Hill special train for any portion of ent trip to the coast Newspa, ¥ representatives at different points have been al lowed to board the special and secure short. unsati« ‘ory im terviews with the distinguished railroad magnates and finance but t© Dan Dean, The Star's special writer, belongs the unique honor of spending half a day on board the special train, hob Robbing with its occupants, and listening to their mut x changes of confidences, and talking with them as freely as he Would with the porter on the train The most remarkable feature of this great “t it” is that Mr Hill gave Dean nearly two bh # of his preet time, in which he discussed freely matters of tremendous |mport in the develop ment and upbuilding of the Northwest, subjects on which he has never been interviewed heretofore. Dan Dean went to Bellingham on Thursday night, boarded the Hill special there at noon and ompanied the party to Beattie, being a member of the party during the tour of inapee the local Great Northerm properties after the train's ar - fival.—Editor.) ete EERE EER EERE RR ee BY DAN DEAN. ‘Beated in a big. leather arm-chair in the observation car of his Special train en route from Vancouver, B ©. to Seattle, sur Founded by the men who have poured mill.ons into the lap of the Borthwest and are about to powr stil! more millions, and by men Known fn the railroad world as the greatest captains of industry James J. Hill, empire builder and railroad monarch iday after Boon talked for more than an howrt with the writer. Ht was not a stereotyped newspay interview, such as Mr. Hill geo erally tadies out to the fortunate member of the “fourth estate,” who gains access to his preeence. It was a remarkable Interv lew given under favorable conditions. ‘The men who gathered about Mr. Hill as he talked to me were men who represented the ownership of one-tenth of all the ratlroad Milleage in Awerica. The rather stout gentleman, with gray burn i who sat on our right was George F. Baker, president of the First Nationa! Bank of New York, and the strongest financial fie te Wall street. Without the consent of this rather modest-looking Fetiring gentleman, J. Pierpont Morgan could never have accom coups. A wave of bis hand ogee #© many of his great financial « P prevented a doren panics, and a crook of his finger has throwa Wall street into a frenzy of fear Across trom us stood a very plainly dressed yoong man, no more than 29 years of age. Smooth shaven he was, with a little checkered golf cap on his head, a very common-looking brown suit. outing shirt, and without trace of jewelry, excepting a single ring This young man. who greedily drank in the words of the Great Northern — was Alex. Cochrane. of New York, director of the Northern fic railway, and head of a big New England carpet house. He worth in his own name, IN COLD CASH, FORTY MILLION DOL LARS! Beside him stood another young chap, a xe but a Modestly dressed and as democra i ppearan He was ng Oliver Payne Whitney, son the late W. ©. W ey, ex-secretary of war, and multi-millionair He can # 4 check for ten millions ean this youth. Them there were Grant 8. Schley. of Moore, Sebley & Co,, New York bankers; August Kisse!, Samuel Thorne, Fisher Baker Amos T. French, representing the gr tan Trust company George C. Clark, Jonathan Thorne, Gard men standing fore Ward among the strong financial powers of America and the world There was not a man among them who has not at least a million of his own dollars invested in the Hil! system. And what are they out here for? A pleasure trip? Men with their great responsibilities, and gigantic financial burdens, don't go jnketing across the conti t for their health ‘They were brought together by Mr. Hill for the purpose of see ing with their own eyes what has been done with the millions they Dave already spent in development of the west and to be told what Will be done with the added miliions they will entrust to the broad Shouldered. short-statued grizzlied pl r-host seated in the big Weather arm-chair And more important still to the veteran emp! going with him to the scene of his impending @rch-enemy, BE. H. Harriman; to Portla which they are tome wiil be the center of a great campaign for pov World's two greatest transportation generals. And tarefully gone over the field of the coming confli: shown by the man of the west what a victory would me their great systems, then they will return to their Wall street fortresses &nd send to their leader the ammunition with which to charge the cannons that a intended to blow the Harriman army off the Hill map for good. Away hack cast, in New York and Boston—America money Maris—other captains of finance are awaiting the result of this trip Swaiting the verdict of suc men as the Bi a the K els Thornes, upon which hinges much of the ¢ of the Pa vast and of Seattle That verdict will be favo It will mean the opening of the coffers of Wall street and State strect. F wer before have the powerful men of millions behind the Hill enterprises shown such eénthusiasm ¥ one of them is optimistic to the limit; every one of them has me so imbued with the enthusi f Mr. Hill, him Pit, that he ts willing to go down In n-lined pocket And stake his last dime on the future Now that we have been informa ¢ chieftains of finance, and to their le r, we W n ¢ latter as he talks in quick, jerky fashion, his little black eyes snapy H kreat fled brown hands pounding the leather arm of his chair wav Ing before our faces. But, just one more dig m—and here's a tip to newspapermen, When you interview that energ big-brained, nervous magnate @on't ask him any questions. Don't ever say, “Mr. Hill what do you think of so-and-so?" He'll snap back at yo What's the use of my diseussing that And you've lost t He doesn't be que ined in an interview, and, after ehifting ner it in hi Seat for a moment, will abrupt!y get up and wa! There goes Your interview Instead—always make a pe ¢ statement on a subject you want the Mon-headed old gentieman to 4 k natance, say: “Mr Hill we people believe that ndthe firet thir ou know he will MILL WILL NOT BUILD ANY M ORE DOCKS AT SMITH'S COVE, | launch off into the subject full speed and talk for an hour, And woe betide the unfortunate seribe who starts to take notes on what the magnate says, With the first flash of the lead pencil from the writ er’s pocket, the Great Northern prosident will apply the brakes and slow up into a cautious conservative talk about the “wonderful re sources of this glorious state; the cheap transportation rates the Hill Unes give to Washington,” ete., ete Because the writer asked no questions, flashed no pencil, he Nstened to one of the most sensational and remarkable interviews James J. Hill ever gave to any news paper man. ORIENTAL TRADE Oriental trade,” said Mr. Hill, interrupting the writer as the latter informed him that ‘we Pacific coast folks were proud of our invasion of the Ortent Young man, you don't know what you are talking about! That's the trouble with us Americans; we sit around and boast of our wonderful achiev while the other fellow lays bis plans and reaps the harvest people out here are optt mistically banking on Oriental trade they ar du for a rude of fact, we have no Oriental tr at present worth r at. And we never will have until we can ship over to the other side manufactured pr an cheap as and Great Britain are tron and ste all raw comme ee are a mere bag you something that will give you an idea of the tnsignific of even these, our greatest present shipping factors to the Orient eat Britain furnishes one half of the tron and steel to t Orient, the Uni States furnis but 10 per cent And this in the face of the fact that we can transport the materi just as cheap as can neland Here's another little pin with which to prick the American in- vasion bubble—the United + 8 has been selling lees than one-half of one per cent of its factory output to all the emerging republics, istands and pires of the Pacific, Qur competitors even beat us badly in the Philippines, where we control the tariffs, There we supply only seven per cent of its imports of competitive goods; the 9% per cent is supplied by trade countries like England and Germany Even in the shipments of there is little if any glory, for © garments and sells them to many peoples; on T reat competitors in raw materials acrom the sea irope buys our cotton, makes it into this international t the European countries have grown rich, while the Daited States, with its own plantations in its midst, does not sell anything but the raw material Just think of it! The exports of European textiles, woven of to Argentina alone, are more than we sel! to Think that over for a minute and you emptiness of our bombastic American raw materia’ all the nations of the world! will have some sort of an idea of the The only great handicap to Seattle and all the North Pactfic ne is that they have nothing to sell to the Orient except the raw jale—the stuff that comes out of the earth. This handicap will always bear down heavily on the people of the west until the day comes when the manufactured products can be made as in the foreign countries—which means A REDUCTION IN THE PRICE OF LABOR! The government records at Washington show that the United States sells to the whole of the Old World only. one. and .one half per cent of its factory output. There is no denying this deplorable fact—It's a matter of official record. And all the while we Amert cans are sticking our thumbs in the armholes of our vests and blow ing about our fancied trade invasion of foreign countries "1 had to langh when I read the magazine articles and newspaper accounts of American's trade conquests in rope. We Americans were, so puffed up about it that we began to make the folks acrons the Atlantic really believe that the American invasion was a reality. We shipped over a few pyrotechnical cargoes, a bunch of typewriters and safes and crowed like a lot of Bantam roosters BUT ALL THE TIME THE VALUE OF OUR TURES SOLD IN EUROPE STEADILY DECLINED, U MANUPAC- ‘TIL, PRES ENT RECORDS SHOW A DROP OF ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS SINCE 1900. We must look to the Orient, That field belongs to us and we should control it. To do this we must reduce the cost of manufac tured products and we must change our tariff—we have outgrown the latter Look at the way the other countries seek new trade Ger many is constantly tlet for her manufactures all over the world. The empe » most active trade-seeking agency on earth. We must forget Europe and turn to the Orient THE CHINESE BOYCOTT "The most xerious menace that has confronted commercial Am erica for years, is at present facing ux, I refer to the Chinese boycott If all the countries of Burope closed their doors to American trade it would not mean the lows that wi » felt if the boycott is not checked. If the Chin anti-American movement becomes practh tton mant- buys two cally effective it will mean that factures will be virtuetly annih thirds of the cotton goods the ar total export trade in because China now ates sells abroad. But the blow to our pre by the boycott is a mere trifle compared to what it means to our future. If we lose China we bh the Orient, for we cannot look to Japan as a great receiving market JAPAN HEREAFTER WILL B MY JUR COMMERCIAL AND NOT A MARKET FOR OUR GOODS. The Mikado is keen to p the opportunity that China pre sents, He knows, as do the shrewd American exporters, that if bis nation gains the commerce of tomorrow's China, Japan will be the great, dominant power of the Pacific. And while we Americans loll about complacently in our concett, we are letting slip through our hands the greatest opportunity that has been within our reach within the history of this nation. More than half two-thirds of che population of the entire world, live in countries Inpped by the wav of the Pacific Bach year t buy more goode—more goods from Germany and Great Britain—-not from the United State And now that wé are slowly awakening to this great chance for world power, we find ourselves Confronted by the Chinese boycott It Is not mere talk that the Celestials fre handing ws; their boycott is a thoroughly organized movement, participated in by a great army about to declare trade war on the United States. And if we cannot abrogate this threatened disaster all our #u in keeping open the door to the Orient will not worth labeling and putting on the shelf along with the other dead Issues Japan will gather in the golden harvest; Japan will have the world power that should rightfullly belong to America ON AMERICAN SHIPPING « “American diplomacy must be taxed to the utmost to check this boycott The United States is not accustomed to owning its own ships on the seas, Instead of giving every assistance possible to the ship owner this country puts stumbling blocks in our paths at, ft ms, every opportunity XPECT, OF COURSE, TO BUILD MORE BIG BOATS THE DAKOTA ANI) MINNESOTA, BUT WILL BUILD ANOTHER SHIP IN THE UNIT man bot bids fly our Jaws so English botto triotiam, of Hereafter our boats will have in fact any but American. P: country's flag over but not when wa that we are at a decided disadvantage with other nations Politics play havoc with the best laid industrial plans, Still, as long as the people want this brand of politician they must get along with a stnall share of the foreign trade NO NEW pocKk BUILD A NEW DOCK AT SMITH'S COVE DREDGE OUT SALMON BAY, WHICH THE WHARFAGE WE WILL WANT FOR ONLY THING WE WOULD HAVE DONE AT course us toms our own WE WIL, NOT STAD, WE WILL WILL AFFORD ALL ME TIME, THE The President of the Great Northern in an Exclusive Interview With The Star Says That We Are Due For a Rude Awakening, and Says Never Again Will He AY, SEPTEMBER 30. 1905. The Only Paper in Seattle That Dares to Print the News o CENTS 13 MONTH VOL. 7._NO. 186. THE CON COULD BE THIS, THERE THE COVE IN THIS LINE, WOULD HAVE STRUCTION OF A LOCK BY WHICH THE WORKED ON AT HOTH SIDES AT THE SAME HOWEVER, 18 IMPOSSIBLE AT SMITH COV PORK WE WILL BULLD ANY MORE DOCKS FUTURE SEATTLE. “Seattle's future depends upon ite commerce. T BEEN BOATS TIME. AND rue nea is the only advagtage the city hax over others, and the pec must awake to the fhet that they must send the manufactured products across the ocean, There are a lot of enterprising people here in this city, and Seattle has a mighty big future “We are building for Seattle's future, not ite present. We have spent more on our Seattle terminals than has nm apent on terminals at Cleveland, which is a city of 450,000 people. But there ts ane thing that the people must realixe.’ They must do thelr share We are not manufacturing nor retailing; we are not putting up atntes or wholesale houses. We have no goods to sell, We are simply a thansportation agency, and will do all in our power to encourage business so that the volume of transportation grows. And every timé the people #0 develop the country that added transportation farilities are needed, we will give them in short order “THIB STA 1 JOYING THE LOWE TRAN RTA TION RATES ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY, We are constantly both p the cars filled “must help us k tariffs down.” striving at the problem by which we wags in order to lower the tariffa, The p arts ded and we will help them by can our ph keeping the we ** Ae iediededeaededed They will not Lake Washing take serio the WEATHER FORECAST. t Fair, cooler tonight; Sunday, fair, wil not hate if, * her warmer; light northwest winds. three *| VOLCANC ACIIVE ott,” quickly replied Mr. Hill | These old-time rivals have # joined hands against acommon #| MAZA LAN, Mex, Sept. 90.—Ad- enemy. 1. Harriman, They # vices have been received here that have buried the hatchet to @/ the Sentia in Nicaragua fight shoulder to shoulder «| '* tive het rocks and agalpet the other great Ameri C&n railroad interests. a) ares. Paneer | south ” = ati ~ * . LOPPEEENY SEES YY Tie THR POOR MAN IN THE & * HATCHET Is BURIED. *|* BILLION DOLLAR BUNCH. * # One of the most significant #|/* Oliver Payne Whitney, son * @ things that impressed me dur- | * Of the late W. C. Whitney, ex- # # ing the trip on the Hill special | * S#eretary of war. is known as # #® was the cordiality existing be &|* “the poor man” among the # * » the Great Northern and *|* Kastern capitalists in the Hill & * hern Pacific officials &) ® party. * * at the hatchet is forever #|*% Young Whitney is only # & baled lo now sure. #|*® worth ten million dollars in his # & That absolute harmony ex- #)* OWD Dame. However, the un- * & iets between the two factions, #|* fortunate youth does not de- # # Gntil recently the most bitter #|* SPair, as he has several wealthy * @ Heels, is geen at 0 glance. | * relatives of declining age who * & "We'll take ® look at your #|* have mentioned bis name prom- # # tunnel, Mr. Hill,” said Presi- | * !ently in thelr wills b 1B: aR gene kage Great Nor- ot TeRRELALEES EES # "You mean OUR tunnel, Bill # * * * * * * . * & And it will be o pretty fight! sy that hot , wae * DAN DEAN. @| thrown on the decks far out at sea. * | Coffee plantations have OER EERE Rm Brenly : WHEN YOU HAVE PREACHED CLEAN POLITICS, F poor FELLER, HES HUNGRY! SCENE TO RUN AGAINST A LIKE Seattle unless} j lava have been hurled over a large] + * “POR POLITICIAD CON- #|*% WHAT THE BILLION DOL- * * JURE WITH.” *|* LAR CROWD WILL DO »® * he Lake Washington ca- «| * AND WON'T DO FOR * * nal’ project le a huge jok * : SEATTLE 4 * That's what a prominent # * madiber of the Hill party said | 49S FOSS SHEESH % Saturday. It cannot be denied #|) pyey win new tracks * ing none of the magnates take # ie ana te ; : * (h@ canal project eriously, & ther and Northe acific & and, far as they are concerned, #| right-of-way on the waterfront # (hare will be no canal * * “Dredge out Salmon bay; #, They will dredae bay f ® that'll give us plenty of room * al wharfage facilitien, & for the boats,” is what they * * ay, «| 1 will build at feast one new * One of the party referred to # mor ship—but not in Ame # the project a thing “for # ® politicians to conjure with.” &| They will not build a new dock * lat Smith's cove. eT eee eee ee ee ee | # from the} suffered | hanged this morning for the mur- } |der of Edward Hayward ---James J. Hill AAA Le Some Tabloid Talks With the “Billion Dollar Bunch” (Bvery man interviewed below by Dan Dean, has not lees than one million dollars invested in either the Great Northern and Northern Pacific, Every an is worth in bis own name not less than ten million dollarg ogether they represent, their own wealth, five hundred miliions, and are capable of get- ting together within 24 hours one billion five hundred million dollars.) Grant B. Schley, of Mobr, Sebley & bankers, New York The Pacific erica today coast presents t e greatest opportunities in Am- Whitney, son of the Jate W. C, Whitney e the west because it is a and starting out in life Oliver Payne & young man and I & atry. If lw home right here. {am young man’s 1 would make my Alex. Cockrane, director of the Northern Pacific personally, forty million dollare—t, also, am a y crowd. Do I like this country? It’s the greatest in the and worth ester in this world! We have much and we are going to inv banker, New York country August Kissel vested in this great ney in- st more, New York—If I were not confident would not be on this trip. Samuel Thorne, banker ¢ coast's great future | Fisher Baker, attorney and capitalist, New York—America’s re les across the Pacific, and Seattle Is the key. Amos T. French, vice-president Manhattan Trust company New York—We have the greatest confidence in Mr. Hill, and are here to see what we can doto make the future bigger and brighter George C. Clark, Clarke, Dodge & Co., bankers, New York The remarkable growth of this country and its still more re- markable future surprises even It's friends. Jonathan Thorne, capitalist, New York—I can hardly realize that any section can grow so repidly as has the Pacific coast country. George F. Baker, president of First National bank, New York—I have never before given an interview to any m but I cannot refrain from expressing my enthusiasm over the great prospects that are awaiting this country. Gardiner Lane, of Lee, Higginson & Co., bankers, We feel that this trip is a revelation indeed. FERRER EERE EEE EERE REE EER EERE RR ER ERR Re KR KR Re SPREE EERE RHEE eRe ERE RR EK EEE EE TE ER KK ASHORE SAN FRANCISCO, Sept. 20.—The at the entrance of the harbor. As- steamer Alameda, with 200 passen- | sistance is being rushed and boata gers on board, just leaving for Hon-| have put out from the Mfesaving olulu, is reported ashore in the fog } stations. HANGED FORT SASKATCHEWAN, Al- berta, Sept. 30.—Charles King was Slave Lake, N. W. T., in September. He went to the seuffold unassisted, cool to the last. He declared his innocence and said he didn’t know why they were hanging him. He re~ peated the Lord's prayer without a quiver just before he was masked. BLACKMAILER IS CAPTURED Lesser) ALBUQUERQU N. M., Sept. 30. . —After a chase extending across the continent, a special officer of the Santa Fe ratiway arrested George W. Barrett last night at Thornton, on a charge of blackmatling promi nent railway magnates and capital- ists in different parts of the coun- try. It is alleged that Barrett wrote a threatening letter to Paul Mor- ton, president of the Equitable, in which he demanded $5,000. On bis person were found letters from big trust companies in) St. Louis, New York and Chicago, Har- rett is a ©, but Is apparently of fine education, He put up a des- perate fight, but was overpowered, He claims his home is in Cleveland, ©, and says he is working for John D. Rockefeller. The tdi though, that he is deme wil examined as t hia sanity. New Boilers For Fire Boat The board of public works will ts- sue 4 all for bids for the contract of placing the new jlers in the fire boat Snoqualmie, just soon as the specifications are handed in by | Architect McAlliste who was sum- moned Saturday orning to appear board with the plans, before the Fire Chief Cook notified the board that unless something was done toward letting the contract the city would find Itself in the posi- tion of being forced to handle the boilers twice or pay demurrage, Chief Cook stated tn his communi. cation that he had en informed the boilers now about to leave | Minnear and would be here | within a at least. Thomson, of the board stated Saturday that the id be attended to immes were is, week Chairman SArreRrt/e lor THIS y etc a ace a