The San Francisco Call. Newspaper, February 21, 1907, Page 2

2 THE SAN FRANCISCO- CALI, THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1907 Knew Garland Before She Met the T i Yachtsman Ends When | White Appears | Column 6 NEW YORK, Feb, 20.—There was o {great rush of people to see Evel Nesbit Thaw under the ordeal of cross- | examination at the Criminal Court's building this morning, but only those provided with special credentials from | the court were permitted to enter the Continued from Page 1, She b was ag room where the trial of Harry K. Thaw frock, blue white | was in progress. Even under 'these : hat. ‘Her | rogtrictions, however, every available as self-| cont was occupied. Justice Fitzgerald of ap- med his ng his mer- | bility of the everal points permitted no one to stand. District Attorney Jerome was early the courtroom prepared for his day’s task. Attorney Delmas was a few min- utes. late in reaching the courtroom, He came up behind Thaw, who sat in X accustomed chaiy, and patted him fectionately upon the back. Thaw smiled at him, and for a moment they whispered together, each with his arm about the other's shoulder:; Mrs. Evelyn Thaw was immediately recalled that Jerome might continue his cross-examination. She was dressed | precisely as she had been on every| since the trial began, Her face slightly flushed as she took her in the witness chair, with her little s r her husband. moved his chair inside himself beside the Mrs. Thaw saw d turned he t Attorr who The District Attorney g Mrs. Thaw a photo- elf taken in a kimono, and could recall the date of show that plac usual Delmas rail and seated When ir the wit- ss box smiled f: Distr her. she to 1y before gan by graph of her asked if she the pictu THAW T think Where in 1 owi GAVE HER KIMONAS taken In 1904 u live after you until the time return from of your mar- b0 Thaw gave eight or nine addresses. £ the defendant pr when this photo- | - a kimono was t B @on't think so.” “Did Dot the kimono belong to the defend- ant? not he take the kimomo to the studio th ¥ g 1 don’t think so.” . “Did not the defendant give you the kimonc “Yes another photograph and 01 “Weré you a “Yest What compar inued as vestenda: B t of the story to anoth g possible away from a sequ of just how long we lived in e you then? dicated ngs of next few questions i intend to spare the f n any way od her sharply as to en she was posing He pers had ot ire detalls tuere any exposure of the person. 1 artistic_draperi 3 replied the witne Greek dress and Turkish cos- or ed with questions as to the ex- | on and Mrs. Thaw replied ow-neck draperies after 1 was\ “1 posed with 1-upon the stage “The picturek were like those ordiuarily seen photographers’ windows { Delmas objected to this and Jerome withdrew | i in | tue question. PHOTOS MAG. YOBNG RESISTS DIVORGE. SUIT AGTION AND LETTERS During the cross-examination Assistant Dis- trict Attoroey Garvan sat behind Jeorme study ing the motes, and from time to time prompted him after the sossion began the District messenger entered, ecarrying I ages, apparently a con: Woman in Scandal With b i;mo’_ 1.‘\Efm‘e’“'(,lr‘“£1;‘fe;“§“" “:‘ . D. Evans, the alienist, was missing Senator Greenwell Files om tor Petition rtroom for the first time since the aid you live after coming to New between Fifth “What was “With the Florodors company. ppointment 2' s v't you take a photograph of you Bromdway Magazine for publiaction involv d ven the for the wa: rence? published under the name of apar Superior defendant was before you went upon the stage? porters came to your house for re: ing om the g o r that ou become acquainted with Ted Marks? a the com t be that she be awarded is a vauderille manager?’ $100 for counsel ou received letters from him?"” r char- these letters among the packages of letters you burned after taking them from a | storage warehouse in this city 't you visit a warebouse with a law-| Yes " of 3 " What was his name? | Y e rts that the defend- e tridge nt erson to care for the Did you take some letters out of the hous e took irope xamine any while there?” No.” | Didn’t you visit the warehouse with another remain Young e is dependent upon Ransch, the jockey, her support and | to them for aid in her 'What was the lawyer's name?” Warren, 1 think.” Have you any letters from Stanford Whi 233 en Young's charges. She| *I did have."” R e 4‘ sserts er band - | 1t developed that the forty-two letters intro- n ¢ 5 ,m,”?"a]h;]\.': :fl' “,2 duced yesterday and identified by Mrs. Thaw | were written by Stanford White to another | sirL —_— WHITE'S CORRESPONDENCE | SCHOONER EUREKA HITS ROCK ““Where are Stanford White's letters?"” TTL Feb. 20.—The steam | Mr. Hartridge bas some of them.” ' 7 schooner | Jerome deman e netion of e let- ) ",1 ‘VF r,“t;a" W?XC? e 3 rm',’: | tefs. Thaws counsel made no response. ard yesterday morning, put back | ™pis you give these letters to Mr. Hart- o this port this morning, leaking | L p Officers of the company refuse | give detalls, but it is claimed the | ureka hit a rock while off Clallam Bay. Divers are working on the vessel, | which is heavily loaded with piles on| deck and coal in the hold. She may] have to unload and go into drydock. | “Who a147" “Mr. Thaw.' You gave them to-your husband?" Yo' “‘Was there a single word of Impropriety or ingecency in the Isters from White ‘to you?” “I don't remeniber."” “Did you keep all of Mr. White L-L-1-0-1- L T T T2 T2 T -7 1 T Y ) SEVERE sore throat, tonsilitis and other disorders of the throat yield readily to the healing influence of Scott’s Emulsion.- It soothes the inflamed mem- ‘branes and makes new rich blood to repair the affected tissues. letters?"” : : : Scott’s Emulsion strengthens the whole system ‘and thus prevents a return of throat disorders. | Wi | was wi | nd(-rn(l\:n ? And_you contributed to the family support?” | S | Marks. | #aid Le was no Architect | 3 on @ copy of the letter you wrote Mr. Boulogne? “Do vou remember its contents?"’ No. How many letters did you give Mr. Thaw?"" “‘Fourteen.”* She testifitd that she gave the fourteen let- ters to Thaw in Paris In 1903. Afterward recelved them from Thaw’s valet and gave t to Thaw again, presumably after he had Whit All of th while she w to Thaw. “Where are those letters now I don't know.'' “When did you sea them last?" “In Pafs in 1903." ““Have you been interroga défense as to thelr contents e m shot were recelved from White in 1903 and were given e counsel Do you remember thelr contents?’ Only in a & ome quest » ‘witness at length re- e placed in a ware- e went to Europe gud taken out of these letter e them to Mr. w." v fenced with the District Attorney llfully at times, keeping her wits weil about Ler. Jerome spent of Whit aw declaring that ned over to positively RIES would TO TRIP WITNESS x a very point pose of tripping up the wit- Thaw would reply with an_em- t say that.’ letters in ounes in Mr. Iy ex- French cap! *“Didn’t the goods in the warehouse r mother's name and there ting her have anything. Stan- get the trunk, howe: howeve rs. Thaw. “Why did you not give Thaw all of Stanfa te’s letters instead of just some of them 1 didn’t say that.” “‘You said some were in a trunk in Paris “T gaid t might be.’” Didn’t ain you v I_don’t “know Thaw was | bim all the d White, wasn't Yes.' Yo some. that T did.” cesing you all the time to give of ihis affair with Stanford etters he Yes Jerome here d turned the W s of letters to her Lus dropped Mrs. T ““How long w ty-fourth st perience with “I don't remet Was it after e you unconscions in that Twen. b at_the ti fed Mrs. Thaw aw's direct testi ®at up all that nigit ot the rest of the night T she h: ACRIFICE OF DAUGHTER n did you first meet ‘Ted Marks?" nk it was in 1900 or e in 1901 n w_York You re: eived letters from him? to this time your relations with your were friendly hing to show that your mother ng to sacrifice you for a pecuniary con- Delmas was on his feet instantly. ‘“There. is nothing in this case that is even an Intlma. tion of such a thing. If I have sail anythin daughter 1 wish “In all the troj tinued o emphatically ' deny weRt_ throyigh er thought S ything mother showed a lack of Jud “What were in the letters Ted Marks wrote you?" “‘I can’t reme: d seen r eversthing. He sald he ¥y picture in the papers and would e me on the stage.” he first met Marks at the Grand Opera house at a.Bunday night concert. She could not remember what Marks talked about, but he sald nothing about the stage. She did mot bow long she was with Marks that evening. ~She remembered going to a nt with Marks, but did not know wheth- at night or not. ked what Mrs. Nesbi lie stage, not o out without ow was all right, but she thought about Jerome next asked abont opley. He pressed her closely about this ad ‘wanted to know if he bad mot lived at » house with her. Not while I lived there.” she responded. Looilave you seen Lim since those days I may have passed him on the street. I do not mean that way." " said Mrs. Thaw, 597, 1th a stamp of her i i | hour or more_on the sub- | slck | | into | e of your ex- | | names are the sam: | N | to the learned District Attorney to believe that| |1 think this unfortunate mother sacrific | o ¥o | a man named Hoppe Mrs. Thaw under questioning wert through the | story of theatrical he: E 1t visit to the office of Fisher, a ager. They had a letter from s on this occasion that Fisher t running a ‘‘baby farm.” He 1ly agreed to take Miss Nesbit. E ‘How long aid you play in Florodorn?” ‘After several ‘weeks In the chorns I went tato the cast. Late in July I went with the “Geisha.’ our mother came for you every night?" . until 1 met Stanford White.” ‘Who introduced you to White?" “Edna_Goodrich."’ “‘Where did you meet Miss Goodrich?" {‘At the theater, in ‘Florodora.’ ' “‘You and sho were friends?” ‘Did ¥ou see very much of her?’ ““Not ‘much.” “‘When Edna Goodrich introduced you to Stan- ford White was that the firft time you had been anywhere?' T ¥es. WENT WITH GARLAND “‘During the time you were in the Florodora company bad you ever been out?'’ “Yes," “With whom?" “With mamma and Mr. Garland.” ‘Where did you meet Mr. Garland?” t"At the boarding-house on Forty-elghth street.” :'Did you ever write any letters to him? “I don't remember; I might.” “Your mother was not pleased with Mr. Gar- land’s attentions to you?’ ou had no quarrel with your mother about him?" “He was a married man?’ “Yen 5 “You went yachting with him?" “Yes; mamma and 1 went on Saturdays.” “Your mother was not pleased with that? “Ob, yes; but sbe was seasick.’” “Is it not true that in the spring of 1901, so far as your relations with your mother. avere concerped, that you whre getting unruly, that your mother stiil stuck by you, that a married man—"" At this point Delmas interposed an objection to Jerome reading from what he termed a state- ment by Evelyn Thaw's mother. “If the Distriet Attorney wants the mother's testimony in this be should produce her on the stand,” he said. k “I'a like to, but that fs impossible, know where she {s.”' said_Jerome. You was allowed to stand. ** she answered decidedly. “Is it not true that tmat marrled man was James A. Garland, but that he was getting a divorce and tbat vou and_your mother fre. quently quarreled about him?* o, indeed.” ‘Is it not true that you went alove with him upon the yacht?' % “Mamma and I, yes." - “Were y land's divorce sujt? Delmas_objected. the best evidence. tion. . . The ‘record, he satd, wis Jerae withdrew the ques- *Who was_present upon the yacht besides ” your mother, Mr. Garland and yourself?” “No_one, The men wzo worked the yacht were there. “‘You went in the urdsy ¥ Tt T dora? N ““Did George Lederer have anything to do with yacat almost every Satur- but we went several times.” - i was when you were playing in ‘Floro- The question regarding Bvelyn becoming, un- | u made a corespondent in Mr. Gar- | draperies that day?" i) Acquaintance With the Evelyn Nesbit Thaw Received a Weekly Allowance When She Was Out of Employment Four going fnto the ‘Flnrodora’ cast?” “Not that I know of.” NEVER POSED IN NUDE | “‘During this time did you ever pose for an artist in the nude?’ ‘‘Never.” ver bave any cast made in the nude?’ 20 §ou know Mr. Wells, a sculptor?”’ 5 did you know Mr. Garland?* dia" ‘Soar acquaintance with him | . hen I met Stanford White.” “Is0't it true that Mr. Garland became very | ag::u s when you lived at a certaln apartment- N’ | “Isn't It true that his angovance caused your mother to get the (elephon‘ewzirl to refuse to send up his cara?’ | “ever heard of 1. 4 your mot e at tne ieqteppt o5 ioeT YU WY avENlag L.yes, except when Stanford White came. )la you ever go to Rector's, Bur Jack's o supper?: “‘l remember with mamm d another Jady. S0 ance g e “Did your bro vard ever thy theater Tor yoqpo et BT Lo oI think ‘he dld once when mamma was | .‘3hl Jou go bome with him?"” e or U know your brother's writing?? 5 this his signature?” Jerome showed the witness a document con- g all but the bottom of the last page. I think it is his signature,” replied Mrs. Thaw. Here a recess was declared. Mrs. Thaw was recalle? to the stand after the retess gnd was psked to identify several Photographs “of herself. Some of these were additional copies:of the famous pieture in which, dressed in & klmono, she posed on a white bearskin, o These were taken at White's studio 1n Twenty-second street * ‘It was not his studio. longed to some one.else."" Jerome exhibited the photographs freely. | Mrs. Thaw stated that the pictures were | taken the day before her experience in the mir-| roredbedroom; ““These are fair types of all the plctures taken that day, are they not?" iThere were gome taken in low neck.’” “That day?’ Yos “Your recollection is clear that you posed in He told me it be-| | Wus there any exposnre of the person?' ey were very low neck.'" 1 ou snid this morning there was mo ex- pasure of the person. did you not?"’ “‘Yes. Stanford White had some plctures put | book and.gave me the book.” “You: have that book?" Will you bring the book here tomorrow?" A “‘You had luncheon that was 1t served from Sherry “I don't know."! i Jerome Here formally offered the photographs | in evidence. i“Were those pictures copyrighted?”” i “I don’t know.'" 4 INDORSEMENT OF CHECKS | Jerome handed Mrs. Thaw ceveral checks and | d if she. knew In whose writing the in- dorsements were. Five had been indorsed by her mother; one indorsement she did not recog- nize. “In whose writing are the indorsements upon the others? “It looks Mke mine.” . does it mot look more | ¢ of any other human | day in the studio— | 5. ‘Where were you living in May, 19027 ‘At the Wellington Hofel “Except yourself and your mother, whose | was there another Evelyn bit at the hotel? | Not that I know of.” | re you given ebecks weekly | “Yes | “Isn’t that check in the customary form of | the checks you received i Delmas objected. Jerome reé‘d seven of ‘the ehecks to the jl!r!. All_were ipdorsed *‘Evelyn Florence Nesbit. ‘‘While you were iwing at the Wellington, were you not entitled to and did you not draw 5 a-week when you were pot playing? Who furnished that money?” *‘Stanford Whits " Jerome next introduced fn evidence sixteen e. checks, each for ., the indorsements on | which were also identified as fn Mrs. Thaw's handwriting. The date ran weekly from Feb- ¥ 1, 1002, to April 24, 1902. | Mrs. Thaw was asked identify a number | receipts signed by her and acknowledge re- nt of various sums of $25° during 1902 The receipts read: | “‘Received from the Mercantile Trust Com- | pany, $25, through instructions from Chlrlt!i Haruett. | Harnett was Stanford White’s secretary. | ‘““Wasn’t this money received by you in pur- suance of an agreement by whi¢h you were to | receive from Stanford White $25 a week when | vou were not acting | “Tuat I§ too long a question,” pouted Mrs. | ‘Tha “I'll break it up for you. Was not there an | nderstanding by which you received $25 of Stan- | ford White's mon every week you were not | acting?"" “‘Understanding with querted in return. “‘With anybod. whom?” Mrs. Thaw snapped the District Attor- | don't know." | Who did you think was putting upy this | money for you { “Stanford White." | e you to recelve this money when act- | ng as well as when not acting?" don’t know.” | Have you any doubt as you sit there that | u were not to recelve any money while play- | | 1 have. lot me show you some letters by Stan- | ford White and see If they will not refresh your | memory. Jerome delved into a big leather pouch. Mrs. | Thaw sat rigid. Harry Thaw straightened up | from his bent position over the table. Vow, let me ask if you ever saw Mr, Har- nett write?” er see his writing?"’ s Yen."” Mrs. Thaw was given a Jetter written by Harnett, but it did not refresh hér memory upon_ the point. “'Did you ever recelve a letter from H. C. Demming, vice president of the Mercantile Trust Company?”' I don’t remember.” “Do you know If such a letter {s In exis- tence? f 1t ever was in existence, 18 1t not now probably destroyed?'* OBJECTIONS BY DELMAS Delmas objected and was sustained. “I will show you a copy Of what purports to_be such a letter. Delmas objected. The copy was placed in evidence. Atter reading 1t, Jerome asked: tor 20,300, now vecollect, recelring such a let- er from Mr. Demming?” “1'U0 tot; T o't remember much about that time. 1 can tell you what I do remem- ber If you want to know.’" “I'll ‘gt to that, all Tight, In time. Have uch a letter in your possession now? 0." Did you ever become aware in December, 1901, or January, 1002, that a large sum of monéy umainting’ to $1850 had been deposited with the Mercantilo Trust Com| with {n- structions that on your written application they were to gend you §25 weekly from Janutry 1, 1002, to January 1, 10087° T could not” pretend to answer that ques- “It's too long.’" A tion,"* sald Mrs. w, shaking her head. “‘Were you lever informed that a sum of | Salt, Rheum Itches, oozes, dries and scales over and over again; local icati do nots cure it, use they cannot remove its cause, which is an impure condition of the yo money had heen de 1 t lows: week _and _this. at once.—EVELY: pose.” your_credi the court airing. the witness wpon Mercantile Trust her admit that she knew s to draw dgainst the fund when not employed. | Mrs. Thawcontinued to parry the question, how- | the trust” company in which money be sent to her, As she w: Even” this did not refresh sald she thought the letter White and probably signed by her, did that when money matte and witness’ belfef in as based on White's statement t women were | had belieyed this at first, In repiy—to other question: not fix the day of the week oy t e a o3 1 posited for your benefit in | 902 ‘or 19037 | “I am Dot sure ot the date.” | What amount was ceposited " I don't remember." “Was it a large or small sum?” | “I don’t remember. ¢ +Did it make. no impression..on. your- mind¥" “Nou? ¥ou know ,who deposited the money ™ ‘Didn’; Stanford White." ¥ What was the money deposited for?" I don’t remember." “‘Did you not know the money had a rela- fon_to you?’ . tos es.” ‘Wasn't it to be drawn for your benefit when were not acting?’’ I don't remember.” Did you write this letter?” Jerome “handed the witnces a paper. The District Attorney read the lefter-as fol- . -Dear Sir: I have not been working all last - Will you_kindly send ne; o NESBIT." i To whom was the letter addressea?’ o1 dov't Jemember.” . From whom ‘did you want the money?" From the Mercantile Trust Compln;’. 1 sup- “‘Did you- ever have any mon 1t Defomo 1l yADY maney - deposited ‘to r Yes.*” How much?" 1 don’t remember.” By whom “'Stanford White.” “When 7" “Late in 1901." At this point a short recess was ordered by D order to give the courtroom an | After the recess Jerome continued to question the subject of money in the'| Company, endenvoring to have | he was only entitled Jerome then read a lette: signed by her to he asked that her as not working. | her - memory. . She was dictated by A8 he often s were involved. en changed his line of examination began to ask certain questions as to the the general chastity of women ber that most Mrs. Thaw said she but later doubted it. s, the witness could r moath on which he alleged outrage upon her by White had oc- urred. In the midst of this examination court djofirned, with Mrs. Thaw still on the stand, After the recess Jerome continued o question Jerome th unchaste. ROSENTHA Who is to appear in San Francisco, Thursday evening, February' 28th, " Saturday afternoon, March 2d, and Sunday afternoon, March 3d. Uses exclusively the] eber Piano HE WEBER, more than any other piano, pos- sesses a rich mellowness of tone—a sympa- thetic_ quality, which makes it not only the ideal instrumeng for the great artist in concert, but also the best piano for the home. We hold the exclusive agency of the world- renowned Weber in this section. See the representarive collection of these matchless pianos now on exhibition 10 our warerooms. Kohler & Chase Sax FrANCIsco : Sutter and Franklin Streets OAKLAND : 1013 Broadway R@FSale of seats for Resenthal Concerts begins at our San Francisco store, February 23d ment.” a condition “Who gave you the information about this not remember. From T money 7 wrote | the dictation i I _don’t-remember."" It does not sound like a letter 1 “What were yon tol?” “I was toid. that. some money had been put ‘What makes you think Stanford. Wi o 1l Mercantile Trust Company and when I'| tated ft? Sercaniie Tomet oaniest ot he ey, e | B e R e e e were | | Becamme all Important letters a1 her admit that she knew she was only entitleq | Pack In the rent my mother had more than I matters Stanford Whits would < o said Mrs. Thaw, efther_my ‘mother or I woule DIE2% e el maan s emblaed., < | O Biat. st could Bk e | b PARRIES THE JES' N tain sums only when you were not working?’ “Did you believe Stanford White when 1 UBSTION Jerome insisted. you all women e brd and som® were sim; t t to play at Mre, Osborne's borne’s, hadn’t the Mercantile Trust Company ? will refresh to_the prosecutor. this money when you were not working? Mrs. Thaw continued ‘to, parry the question ;Dian’t you o Qctober 3, 1002 witte a Jet. | er to e Mercantile Trust Company?* { he District Attorney e 1'! don’t remember,” replied the witness. ‘Didn’t you in the latter part of October go | theater?'" L think so—yes." {'What was the name of ! ! “Tommy Rot,’ I believe. play?” ‘‘Just before you began to play at Mrs. Os- ou been idle for a week “1 think so?” “‘Didn’t you at that time address a letter to I don’t remember.” I will show you a copy of a letter; maybe ft your recollection.” Mrs. Thaw read the paper and handpd it back a I don’t remember it at all,” she said. ‘‘Now, were not you told you could oni draw “I don’t remember any such definite state- moriey be sent ber, as she was not working. member one of the conditions under whieh you sending the $25 wee coming, until I get another positio truly, B J “I do not remember." ome then read the letter to the Trust Com- in which Evelyn Nesbit asked that her er at concealing it Yes.” {ou belteved all women unchaste?” “In view of this lette de you mot mow re- 1 were just 16% years old know that I was 16% exactly—T draw on the fund when you were not | was W did_you begin to do tion_about all women being nn W I went abroad in 10¢ belleved that all women were bad?* bt that aste ” post “I do mot remember. ASKS FOR THE MONEY | “¥e Jerome then read another letter, as follows “When Thaw proposed to you and you refected ““Mercantile Trust Company, New York—I | him, djd you believe you were better than others have stopped playing, and wish you would b ecause you had been ruined?’ ly, beginning this Fr ng EVELYN NESBIT. The District Attorney also sb check and receipt and asked: Continued on Page 3, Column 2 _— “Do not thege refresh your memory as'to the Hezlinehen and Newralgtn Frem Colis conditions? | xative Bromo Quinine, the world- “No, sir. and Grip remedy, removes Don’t you remember now that there was such | cause. Look for sis. W. Grove. - will be busy i “dirt” Galvanized Irom Buckets 25c¢ to 60c Faney and Laundry Soaps 21c a cake A Great Special articleor implement work. 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