The San Francisco Call. Newspaper, October 11, 1901, Page 2

CALL, RIDAY, OCTOBER 11, CLERGY AND LAYMEN DISCUSS MATRIMONY House of Deputies, mittee, Debates the Subjeet Pro and Con. ROMPTLY at 10 o'clock yester- | morning the day Chairman Lind- House of Deputies dy to order. Sec- read the mir the division , and also a mi ps granting the sage from ame use concur in this reso- A vote re- f the action of nnounced the names | ig the trustees of the | of widows and orphan nd of aged, in- men. T are: ; Rev Denslin, W, Browine, shall, on electi Kter was e place chairman of the commit- | , reported that Mector ed 10 a seat in the house of Charles Gordon, who was un- from the Giocese of Minne- James H. Campbell from the abi sota, diocese of Western Michigan in place of her delegate who was unable to at- of Georgia, on behalf of the n expenses, presented a report that the receipts during € amounted to $13,029 51 300 59, leaving a bal- . 'The committee nded the re-election of General Skiddy of Connecticut as trea: e committee made recommends garding the allowance to for traveling ex- es of the secretary and and also arer mended be autk 2 of one dollar for each diocese, should it be 1 the interval, till the | ing of the General Con. | =0 in regard to the printing 2nd disiribution of the journal and digest | of proceedings. The report was, on mo- | tion, accepted. | TREASURER IS ELECTED. den of Boston « resolu- tion of ¢ W. W, treasurer of the notion p B Ree committ. revailed. Huntington, chair- n on amendments, submitted a lengthy report, and the rec: | ommendations of the committee were adopted in nearly all instances. Its recom- mendation that the delegates from mi: slonary districts be entitled to vote, ex when the vote is taken by orders, | placed on the calendar. = g Rev. Dr. Alsop, ¢ an of the com- mittee on new dioc reported on the petition of the people of Kansas, who de- sire- setting off th: ern_part of the territory for a_missionary district. He said the committee has had the matter | under cons ration and has been unable 10 agree; that there were two reports to | be submitted. In behalf of the majority be read the following resolution: Resolved, the House of Bishops concur: That the petition of Kansas 1o have thes o5s erected into & missionary district be granted Rev. Dr. Payne read the report of the | minority. They w »posed 1o the re- quest being granted. The report showed | that the territo missionary districts 703 square miles with a population of 5, 000. He asked that the committee be dis- charged from further consideration of the Subject. Both reports were placed on the calendar. Rev. Dr. Neville of Rome, as delegate of the Convocation of American Churches in Europe, presented two memorials, which were placed on the calendar. The first asked for representation of such churches in the General Convention, with limited power to vote. The second asked the con- Yention to consider whether some better | provision than that now existing could Dot be devised for the Episcopal oversight of such churches, suited to their growth 2nd improved condition Rev. <Dr. Beatty, on behalf of the‘cleri- cal and lay delegates, offered the follow- to be set aside for would comprise 56,- | | administrator shall | throw it out entirely and refuse to con- | house calmed down sufficlently to allow | | the following resolution, which was re- | the affirmative and as a one: ing resclution: | ticipate any debate or difference of opin- Sitting as a Com- the announcement of the death of Alexander Burgess, late Bishop made during the sitting jcal and Lay Deputies; Whereas, the Right Rev of Quincy, has of the House of Cl house has heard with s faithful servant | and is grateful to C emi- | | ces which he has been permitted to render to the church and kingdom of Christ. Dr. Beatty said he proposed the adop- | tion of the resolution, as it was his privi- | lege of voting for Bishop Burgess when | he was elected president of the House of | De It was adopted by a rising| vote. | Rev. Dr. McConnell moved that the me- | morial from the people of Hawail asking | for the establishment of a diocese be Te- ferred to the committee on new dioceses. | The motion w . Rev. Dr. E. W. Donald of Ma flered an amendment to the acing the offer by saying: ormed gentlemen of the con- < of the effect of the defeat | fisa.chuse:tsi Protestant Episcopal church, I think there can | be no doubt in the minds of a majority of the | convention of what the effect of its defeat is | 1o be upon the attitude of the Christian people | of America toward the Episcopal church. 1| e effect of it is to be disastrous, and, | th great reluctance, 1 venture the following resolution may be re e committee on amendments to U constitution. 1f the gentlemen will turn to page the Journal of 1898 it will obviate the necessity of my reading my entire resolu- | tion; CHANGE IN CONSTITUTION. solved, the House of Bishops concurring, the following change be made in the co stituti ma hat the same may be adopted in the next | neral Convention in accordance with article the constitution, viz.: Add to article X | the following: ‘‘But any Bishop of this church, | acting by and with the advice and consent of | the standing committee of his diocese or mi: slonary jurisdiction may take under his ove: rred to o and that the proposed alteration be | kncwn to the several dioceses In order sight any congregation of Christian people not | theretofore in communion with which accepts Nic this church, | the Apostles’ Creed ‘and the ne Creed and whose minister shall cov- nt as may be prescribed by canon of the General Convention to use in public worship in the £aid congregation such form or directory | as the General Convention by canon shall set | forth and authorize. Rev. Dr. Huntington asked the gentle. man why he had omitted certain portions | relating to the administration of the Sac- rament by duly ordained priests. Dr. Donald replied: Because with all frankness, gentlemen, per- sonally 1 do not comsider it hecessary to the | administration of the Lord's supper that the | have received episcopal | sanction. | Instantly the house was in an uproar | of disapproval and dissent. Rev. Dr. | Fulton withdrew his second and a motion | was made to lay the proposed amendment on the table, followed by a motion to sider it. The storm soon subsided and the the proposed amendment to take the reg- ular course in the hands of the commit- tee on constitutional amendments, Thomas H. Walbridge of Ohio presented ferred to the committee on’constitutional amendments: Whereas, the General Conyention of 1901 hav- ing Just passed an amendment of the consti- tution glving one yote each to the clerical and lay delezates, when vote is taken by orders, and | Whereas, the House of Deputies desires sald | vote shall be taken and recorded so that the count will show the actual affirmative and megative yotes on every question voted on by orders together with the correct expression of the will of the diocese 80 voting; therefore be it Resolved, That all divided votes shall be counted by the secretary as one-half vote in alf vote in the negative and shall be so recorded by the secre- tary to the credit of the order casting sald | divided vote. | Rev. Dr. Mann of West Missouri offered | a'series of resolutions which he premised | were designed to wind up the question of marginal readings. The resolutions fol- low: That the joint commission on marginal read- ings be continued. That the commission have power to publish an edition or editions of the Bible containing the marginal readings which have been or shall be allowed by this conven- tion. That these readings be printed in the margin of the Bible. That if 'the committee find it impracticable to publish such an edition | or editions of the Bible they be directed to pub- lish the readings which have been or shall be allowed by this convention in a separate vol- ume, copies of which shall be sent to every clergyman of this church. Dr. Mann said that the third resolution was the only one on which he could an- | asction, Clauses as to' Selemnization of Mar- riage Are Voted Upon and Adopted. fon and for that reason he moved the adoption of all but that resolution. In view of the fact that the next regular step in the proceedings under this head must be a request from the House o Bishops for conference on the subject, a delegate objected to the consideration at that time of the resolutions and under the rule they went over. Rev. Dr. McKim of Washington asked to have the following amendment to the constitution, T d at the last General Convention, referred to the committee on amendment But any Bish church, acting by and advice a sent of the standing of his diocess or missionary Jjuris- y take under his spiritual oversight any congregation of Christian people not there- tofore in communion with this church, which committ accepts the Apostles' Creed a&nd the Nicene Creed, and whose minister, having received eplscopal ordination, approved by this church, shall covenant, as may be ribed by canon, to use In public worship id congrega- tion such form or directorv as the said Bishop shall set forth and authorize. Provided such form or directory shall contain or enjoin mothing contrary to the doctrine of this church, shall make provision for the apos- tolic rite of confirmation, and shall require, in the administration of the sacraments of bap- | tism and the supper of the Lord, the unfailing [ use of the words, acts and elements ordained by Christ himself; and provided further, that no such congregation shall be admitted into union with a diocesan convention until it has been organized as a parish or congregation of this church, in accordance with canonical re- quirements, and until it has been duly certified in such form as shall be provided by canon, that Book of Common Prayer is the use of such congregation. AMENDMENT TO CONSTITUTION. Rev. Dr. Oberly of New Jersey offered an amendment to the constitution, which he said would be title 3 of article IV and would be numbered section 5. It was as follows: ‘Whenever a missionary jurisdiction shall be- come g dlocese the missionary Bishop of the jurisdiction shall become the Bishop of the dio- cese it he so_elect. Rev. Dr. Gre:r of New York was de- sirous of learning what action the House of Bishops had taken on certain proposed amendments. He offered a resolution with a.view to securing this information, and moved that the house consider the cleventh article of the constitution. The resolution was placed on the calendar. Later. Delegate Lewls of Pennsylvania moved to bave it taken from the calendar. Dr. Spalding of Alabama in seconding this moticn started to tell the convention what one of the Bishops told him on the previous day, but was not permitted tu divulge the iInteresting information. Mr. Saunders offered as an amendment that the house take the matter up by -a unanimous vote. Mr. Lightner of ‘l’mnne- sota rose to a point of order, but was not sustained. Mr. Brown closed further quibhllr§ by moving thut the houze take up the discussion of tue eleventh section of the constitution at once. This motion was adopted, and Dr. Egar, the leader of debaté on matters pertaining to the con- stitution, took the platform and explained the scction. ARTICLE IS ADOPTED. The secretary then read the rroposed amendment to the constitution, which fol- lows: No alteration or amendment of this constitu- tion ghall be made unless the same shall be first proposed at one triennial meeting of the General Convention, and by a resolve thereof be sent to the secretary of the convention of every afocese, to be made known to the dlocesan con- vention at its next meeting, and be adopted by the General Convention at its next succeedls triennial meeting by a majority of the whole number of Bishops entitled to vote in the House of Bishops, and by a majority of the clerical and lay deputies of all the dloceses entitled to representation in the House of Deputles voting by orders. The debate was long and Speeches were made by Prince of New Mexico, Rev. Dr. Fulton of Pennsylvania, Deputy R. T. Payne, Rev. Dr. Tayler of s Angeles, Judge Stiness and others. Deputy Robert Treat Paine of Massa- chusetts declared that this was the most important measure that had come before a convention of the church since 1769. It contemplated a revolution, and'its effect and purpcse were not generally under- Stood and appreciated. He earnestly urged that action on it be deferreg till the meeting of the next Triennlal Conven- tion in order that it might be more care- interesting. ex-Governor full ingly. Deputy Stiness of Rhode Island considered and acted on understand- l | | ex- | plained the proposed article and said the | proposition was one that came up in every conventlon. He reviewed the action of preceding conventions on the question of concurrent vote by dicceses: The pro- posed amendment required a majority of all the delegates by orders instead of by dioceses. The only new provision' w requiring a rity of ail of the Bishops as well as of all the members of the House of Delegates to pass a measure. He | urged that inasmuch as a majority of delegates was required, the same require- | ment should be applied in the House of Bishops, OBJECTS TO AMENDMENT. Rev. Mr. Tayler of Los Angeles said the proposed amendment tied the hands of the ncuse. There were eighty voics in he House of Bisheps, but the convention eing held at points remote to muny of their dloce they were tnable fur that | reason and on account of age and infirm- fty to attend. Not more than seventy at- tended the conventions and of this num- ber several were ahsent at one tinie and nother, so that about sixty-five usually transacted the business of the House of Bishops. To carry any measure it was ab- solutely necessary to have forty-onc votes out of the sixtv-five voting. While the House of Depufies might pass a measure unanimously, bafore it could becomne ef- fective it was necessary not only Lo pass this house. but tc overcome the majority in the House of Bishons. In his opinion this invalidated the proposed amendment. A vote was taken on Lhe proposed amendment and it was carried by a_vote of 40 clerics and 44 laymen to 12 clerics and 9 laymen in the negative; divided 7. Dr. Grammer then introduced tse fol- lowing resolution, which was placed on the calendar with a similar resolution of- fered by Dr. Mani Resolved, the House of Bishops concurring, That the marginal readings for the English ver- sion of the Apocrypha, reported to this house by the joint commission, be published under the direction of sald commission and are hereby permitted for use by the ministers of this church in the public service of the church. A message was received from the House of Bishops asking fcr a committee of con- ference onthe proposed amendment to the resolutlon on marginal readings, and no- tifying that it had appointed as its part of the committee the Eishops of Tennes- see, Vermont and Washington. RESULT OF THE VOTE. Or. motion the chair was authorized to appoiatl or the committee on the part of the deputies two clergymen and one lay- man. A vote was then taken on the amend- ment. It was' adopted by the following vote: Ayes. Noes. Divided. Clerical . S0 TN [ Lay deputies. “ 3 1 The amendment {8 as follows: No_alteration.or amendment of this consti- tution shall be made unless the same shall be first proposed at one triennial meeting of the General Convention, and by a resolve thereof be sent to the #ecretary of the convention of every dlocese, to be made known to the dio- cesan convention at its next meeting and be adopted by the General Convention at its next succeeding triennial meeting by & majority of the whole number of Bishops entltled to Vote in the House of Bishops, and by a majority of the clerical and lay deputies of all the dioceses entitled to representation in the House of Depu- tles voting by orders. Rev. Dr. Greer of New York then called for. the order of the day, This was the discussion on marriage and divorce, and was declared in order. The first speaker was Rev. Dr. Pittinger. In part he said: It 1s with no little hesitation that an humble priest ventures to offer a substitute or amend- ment, but I submit that for a learned gentle- man,’ sitting in an editorial chair, to theorize | about the subject of marriage and divorce is one thing, While'to a man who is on the line of Sattle and knows and feels what this subject is in the life of the American people it is another thing. o 'Bo"1 venture to ofter the following as an amendment to the report of the committee of this house on the subject of marriage and di- vorce and if it i3 thought proper to offer it as a substitute for the first sectlon sent to this house from the House of Bishops: Strike out paragraph 1, section 1, canon 13, | title 2, and ‘emend paragraph % 80 'as to read as follows: ‘*Section 3. The solemnization of matrimony in this church i{s a holy ordinance in which the partles entering into wedlock ex- press their mutual consent thereto to a min- that | o D PRELATES WHO om FIGURE IN THE ‘CONVENTION DEBATES. —_— — HOUSE QF BISHOPS WILL NOMINATE PRELATES TO DO MISSIONARY WORK Five Learned Episcopal Ministers to Be Chosen To-Day to Take Up Cause of the Chureh in the Orient and in the Northwest. IVE new missionary Bishops will be nominated by the House of Bishops at its session this morning. This was decided upon yesterday afternoon after a long discussion of the subject. There are five districts—Olym- pia, North Dakota, Hankow, China, Phil- ippine Islands and Porto Rico—in which there are vacancies. 2 The ceremony of nominating tried and true men for these responsible offices is a solemn one. This morning at 9:30 o’clock adjoins their meeting room in Trinity Church. Holy communion will be cele- brated and then they will return and a Vote will be taken. The five divines will simply be nominated and their names re- ported to the House of Deputies for rati- fication. The report of the committee on the rec- onciliation of alienated congregations was the prelates will file into the chapel that | received. These alienated congregations refer chiefly to the body of worshipers known as the Reformed Episcopal church, The committee reported that there had | been a great deal of correspondence on the subject, and it was decided that its | work should be continued. A _conference committee on _marginal | readings was_also appointed. It will be composed of Right Rev. Dr. Hall, Bishop of Vermont; Right Rev. Dr. Gatlor, Bishop of Tennessee, and Right Rev. Dr. Satterlee, Bishop of Washington. 1 L o T e e '-H—H‘R‘H-H"H—H-H—H-H-I-Hq—x-l-l—x—i-;-l_x_p [ ] ister, through whom they then exchange their marriage vows, and who having pronounced them in the name of the Holy Trinity to be man and wife invokes upon their union the blessing of the Triune God.” The reason why I have been led ard urged to offer this as an amendment to the report is | that I know of no subject that can be brought before this convention that touches so closely and practically the life of our own church people and the people of this land, and the Christian people of the United States are watching this conventlon to see what we are going to say about marriage and what we are going to do_about divorce. 1 submit that the language of the first para- h in canon 3 sent to us by the House of mgdnfi is inaccurate and Infelicitous—'‘Par- ties entering into this state of life.”” Matri- mony is not a state of life, it is an act only, It 15 understood, of course, that the consent glven is given to Almighty' God, and on that rests the validity of the marriage contract. 1 also urge that there must be some one who knows that that consent has been given and so the amendment says ‘‘they must con- sent to a minister.”’ I believe that this church has a right to say that marriage is something more than a mere consent, and that mere con- sent, while it will valldate the marriage in the eyes of the law, is not sufficlent to satisfy the demands of the chureh, and so there is added that after the consent is given they then ex- change their marriage vows. The reason why this is added is that con- sent is something that may be given to-day and may be withdrawn to-morrow, but a vow is something very different; it can only be disposed of In two ways—it may be kept or it may be broken, and it ought to be understood that the dissolution of marriage means some- thing more than the mere withdrawal of con- sent; it means the violation of a vow taken before Almighty God. A resolution was offered by a member from the diocese of Western Virginia to have the convention go into committee of the whole and to sit with closed doors. The resolution was divided and the con- vention decided to go into committee of the whole by a vote of 215 to 9. Mr. Stetson of New York moved that the committee on rules be instructed to report to the house in the afternoon a gystem of rules for the conducting of bus- iness in commuitee of the whole. WANTED CLOSED 'ON. The motion tn have the committee of the whole sit with closed doors during the discussion of marriage and divorce was then put, and a deputy moved to lay it on the table. This was lost by a vote of 163 to 157. The original motion was then discussed. Lay Deputy James C. Buxton of North | Carolina arose and said that the subject under consideration had been discussed through_the newspapers and religious pa- pers and was familiar to the whole coun- | try; that the cyes of the people of the church were looking to the convention to take some action and that the people of this city were interested in the discus- slon. He thought no member of the house would use language that could not be heard by the ladies. He therefore hoped A vote was taken and the motion was lost by a vote of 201 to 126. Deputy Lewis made a motion to ad- journ until 3 o'clock, as the convention, could not take up the discussion on the subject before the house untii the com- mittee on rules had reported. Before an say appointed the following committees: On conference—Rey. Dr. Mann of Western Missouri, Rev. Dr. Grammer of South Virginia, Rev, Dr. Waterman of New Hampshire, Mr. Bassett of Rhode Island and Mr. Morris of New York. Trustees of theological ,seminaries—Rev. Dr. Bassett of Rhode Island, Rev. Dr. Nelson of Western New York, Rev. Dr. Grosvenor of New York, Mr. Pierrepont of Long Island, Mr. Hayes of Newark and Mr. Burwin of Pitts- burs. It is proposed that the Trinity alumni attending the convention or resident in and _near this city hold a reunion lunch on Monday next at 1:30 p. m. at some convenient place. Rev W. Nichols have been chosen a commit tee of arrangements. An adjournment was then taken until 3 o'clock. DEPUTIES DISCUSS RITES OF MARRIAGE Portions of Important Canon Adopted by the Committee of the e ‘Whole. Trinity Church was far too small to accom- modate all who desired to listen to the debate the house would not sit with closed doors. | adjournment was taken Chairman Lind- | C. E. Ball and J. | on the proposed canon of the church on mar- riage and divorce, which was taken w 3 p by the House of Deputies yesterday afternoon. The fair sex seeméd to be especially inter- ‘esud in the subject and they crowded the zal- leries “of the church and filled t sl the main floor of the Dullding., 2l o e Lord Bishop of Newcastle, Englan, the Lord Bishop of British Coltmbiy .w(:'u:x“ seats on the platform and gave earmes tion to the debate. e Chairman Lindsay, called the house to ord promptly at 3 p. m. and then requested Tudge oolworth to read the rules formulated by the special committee to govern the debate of the house, sitting as a committee of the whole, on the “heasage. from ‘the House marriage and divorce. P - The committee desire in the debate to five ten minutes to Deputy d to limit the speakers r;\lnu‘lfis each, allowing Who was fo lead tha debate. A- mucimanit; resolutions. amendmen bstitutes and mo- | tions were offered from all parts of the house, and the matter was finally settled by a vots to al . | ww‘lg: unlimited discussion on the important The house then resolved itself into a commi g i)ee of the whole, the chair being uccupledmbv D:pu‘l\yn !,{oseph Packard of Maryland. v . stice was sels y KOC’(,he s lected to act as secretary was the message from the House of Bishops on marriage and divorce, which X 2 would be con- | fidered by sections. The message was as fol- i : “‘Resolved. the House of Deputies concurrh | That title 2, canon 13, paragraph: a's o { amended so"as to read:" - o © and % be 0f the solemnization of matrt ot o mony. Paragraph 1L The solemnization u{ matri- mony in this church is a service in which the [mulun consent of the parties entering into this state of life is given in the presence of |a minister, who, having pronounced them in the name of the Holy Trinity to be man and | Wife, invokes the divine bles {‘ un‘%“- blessing upon their “Paragraph 2. In the solemnization of matri- | mony the ministers of this chureh shan o | careful to ascertain and to observe the law \:7: (Y}e State ;‘gmv‘minx the civil contract of | marriage in_the place where t | i I P ere the service shall “Paragraph 3. (1) No minister shall solemn- ize the marriage of any person who under the Continued on Page Threa, ————— ISR