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8 ATHER YORKE T B, F. HUDELSON, The Chancellor Replies to Thirty-One Ques- tions. FREE SCHOOLS UPHELD. Says the A. P. A. Is Dangerous to the Welfare of the Country. HUDELSON WRITES AGAIN, His Interpretation of A. P. A. Princi- ples—Dr. York Replies to Father Yorke. The Rev. P. C. Yorke contributes the foi- lowing letter in answer to recent com- munications from the pen of B. F. Hudel- son, State president of the A. P. A.: To the Editor of the Call-DEAR SIR: The everend Benjamin Hudelson, State Presi- dent of the A. P. A, has been marching up and fore the public of California for the past few weeks with a chip on his shoulder, fie has saddressed himself particularly to me and with ) grotesque gesticulation and wild waving of his goosequiil has invited me 10 cor e on confess, Mr. Editor, that I have not elf to any particular trouble to gratify patience of the Rev. Benjamin Hud- 1 There sre certain ihings which age cannot wither nor custom stale. The verdant freshness which assumes that vour readers are stone blind to the nature of the A. P. A. is one of them. Mr. Hudelson will keep andIcan afford to hasten slowly. Moreover, the contro- versy was already so mixed that I did not wish to add another thread to the tangle. Now, however, since the Rev. Dr. Wendte has given me the marble heart and the stony stare, as this morning he bowed ‘‘positively his last farewell” over the footlights, I have an oppor- tunity to attend to the Rev. Benjamin Hudel son, State President of the A. P. A. 1'must, however, express my surprise that the Rev. Benjamin Hudelson should be so anxious for a controversy. The ritusl of the order which was used in the initiation of can- didates in this City during the summer of 189 contains a stringent provision against sut proceedings. As the candidate stood before the chaplain, with his right hand on his heart, he solemnly swore, aiter promising to break down the power of the Pope, “I will not enter into any controversy witha Roman Catholic upon the subject of this order.” ‘As the oath binds the supreme president ss well as the inferior members I am now more | than surprised that the Rev. B. Hudelson should be so dreadfully anxious to éuter into & y on the subject of his order with & tholic priest. ir. Hudelson opens his ecommuni- the statement that “the principles of any individual largely if not wholly deter- mine his character.” This statement is very true if we are desling with an honést and a | consistent individual; it is very false if we are | dealing with & hypocrite or a fraud. The ad- vertised principles of Uriah Heep were far | different from the principles on which he acted, so the advertised principles of the A. P. A. may be far different from_those which ani- | mate its member. When & man comes before | ue with & set of maxims and with the claim | { that he lives up to them we test his claim by his deeds. Wiien a society appears before the public and esks for support because it pro- | fesses certain principles it is the first duty of | the public to consider how far these principles are put in practice by the society. THE A. P. A. PLATFORM. | Hence itis that the A.P. A. platform cuts | but little figure in such a discussion as this. The assertions in the deciarations of principles are so loosely constructed that they may mean | anything or nothing. As they lie thereis very | little to distinguish them from the platiorms of the two parties to which the great bulk of | ens of this country, Protestant and , give their adhesion. Hence there is answering the multitudinous ques- | tions which the Rev. Mr. Hudelson tacks on to | the A. P. A. platiorm. To many of them I | would give assent, and to none of them am I compelied by any principle of my religion to answer no. However, though the operation is | perfectly needless, it may be just as well to | take up the questions one by one and say my say about them. QUESTION 1. Does Mz. Yorke deny that_politics need puri- iying, or does he object to their purification? 1 have not the slightest objection to the purl- | fication of politics, and I believe that pure poli- tics should be the ideal of every good citizen, Theextent of the need is & maiter on which I am not competent to judge. I know, however, thata secret political society can never bring about pure politics. 1 know that wherever the A. P. A, has come into power its politics have been a stench in the nostrils of decent citizens. Because I believe in pure politics I with every thinking American am opposed to the A. P. A, QUESTION 2. Does Mr. Yorke object to our attacking any religious organization attempting to become a factor in politics? 1 object 1o no one attacking any religious ich attempts to become & Iam firmly of the opinion that no religi organization should meddle in politics. 1 believe that such meddling will roduce bad politics and worse religion, and ause the A. P. A.1s areligious organization, directed end controlled by reverends like Mr. Hudelson, I am opposed to it root and branch. QUESTION 3. Is Mr. Yorke hostile to our aim to preserve and maintein the Government against all for- eign irfluence ? Mr. Yorke believes in the Monroe doctrine for the United States, as well as for Venezuela. 1 believe, however, that the Government is perfectly capable of maintaining itself without the aid of & gang of foreign conspirators, whose denuncistion of the President’s stand against foreign aggression is still fresh in our memo- ries. Because the A. P. A. is a foreign influ- ence, devised by the ancient enemies of this Republic to divide our people, 1 am hostile to it. QUESTION 4. { & bealthy rivalry between State institutions Does Mr. Yorke regard religio-political or- ganizations as friends to civil and religious iberty He does not. I pelieve that religio-political organizations are as hostile to the American spirit as they are to the plain provisions of the constitution. And itis precisely becsuse the A isa religio—{mlmml organization that er 1t not only wrong, but even treason- QUESTION 5. Is it not in Mr. Yorke’s opinion unsafe and unwise to put in office men who owe allegiance 1o a foreign power? I think this country is strong enough to hold that such & policy might not unsafe, but I am decidedly of opinion that it is unwise and unnecessary. Becausc the hungry horde of office-seekers, of which the A. g A. is com- posed, 18 mainly made up of those whose first ullegiance is to Queen Victoria, her crown and dignity, I believe that the A. P. A. isboth un. sale and unwise, QUESTION 6. Is Mr. Yorke anenemy of the-free public- school system and does be favor supplanting it with a sectarian Institution? He is not and he doesnot. I belfeve in a free public-school system and I am not in favor of supplanting it with a sectarian system. I be- honest and true men—patriots who are quali- fied and who owe allegiance solely to the stars and stripes? I believe that there is no man too honest, no man too true, no man too patriotic for even the smallest position of trust under the Ameri- can Government. 1 oppose putting into office political preachers, characterless shysters, phy- sicians without practice, business men without credit, politicians without srmciple, dema- gogues without education and bigots without sense. Because this is an exhaustive list of the active membership oi the A. P. A. Iam hostile to that society, and every respectable American shares in that hostility. QUESTION 9. Ts Mr. Yorke hostile to “loyalty to true Amer- icanism which knows neither birthplace, race, creed or party” as a first requisite for member- ship in any Jrganization? i : That depends. The Native Sons’ organiza- tion takes note of birthplace. The Seotch- Irish organizations take note of race. The Methodists’ organizations take note of creed, the Republican organizations take note of party. Iian organization is supposed to culti- vate Americanism without regard to these points there .is no Teason Why I should be hostile to it. But when an organization purports not to take note of birthplace and ostracises every one born in & certain country; when an organization pur- ports not to take note of race and boycotts every one sprung irom a certain stock; when &n organization purports not to take note of creed and maschinates against every member of a certain church; when an organization purports not to take note of party and sells itself orissold to a certain political cabal— then I say such an organization is frandulent, hypocritical end un-American. Because the P. A. does all these things 1 am heartily op- 10it. QUESTION 10. Yorke hostile to intense political ac- y and a conscientious discharge of the duties of citizenship by every individual in the soluticn of the problems confronting our people? o 1 believe that only by reasonable and inteili- gent political activity and by the conscientious ischarge of the duties of ‘citizenship can we solve the problems of.our times. But because the A. P. A., by placing its members at the mercy of an advisory board end by herd- ing them to the polls at the dictation of a boss or a cabal of bosses destroys that intelligent exercise of the duties of citizen- ship which the American constitution re- quires, I believe that the A. P. A. is a menace 10 the constitution, and I look upon those at the head of it as the most dangerous enemies our country has. Asociety which destroys the sense of individual respousibility and creates a caste of political workers fatiening at the public erib is an un-American society, and such & society is the A. P. A. QUESTION 11. Is Mr. Yorke hostile to our toleration of all creeds, and does he deny us the right of fran- chise guaranteed by the constitution of the United States, the Tight to support or oppose such candidates as we think proper? Because you do not tolersate all creeasI am hostile to you, and I deny you the right to pose s tolerants of all creeds when your only reason for existence is intolerance. I do not deny you the right given by the con- stitution to oppose any candidate you see fit; but when in defiance of that same constitu- tion you make religious belief a condition for office and oppose candidates because of their creed, I say you are unworthy of the franchise and hostile to the constitution. Because you do this I oppose you, QUESTION 12. Is Mr. Yorke hostile to our position that sub- jection to and support of any ecclesiastical power which claims eguel if not greater sov- ernity than the United States Government, and which is not controlled hy thet Government, is irreconcilable with citizenship? 1 go further. I believe that such subjection toany ecclesiastical power which claims a jot or title of sovereignity within the territory of these United States is irreconcilable with citi- zenship. And because the A.P.A.is an ec- clesiastical institution, controlled by ecclesias- tics like the Rev. Benjamin Hudelson, which exacts the control of the supreme act of sover- eignity, to wit, the franchise, I beli¢ve that the | members of the A.P. A. are unfit for citizen- ship. QUESTION 13, Is Mr. Yorke hostile to the uphoiding of the constitution of the United States and its guar- antee of religious liberty to the individual ? 1 have sworn to uphold the constitution of the United States, and to no principle of our American polity do 1 render more ready allegiance than to that of religious liberty. But because the A, P. A. strives to render that principle null and void by waging war upon Catholics and by attempting to drive them from public, from business and from social life Ibelieve that organization to be hostile to our constitution, ang 1 consider its oxistence & dic. grace to our civilization. QUESTION 14. Is Mr. Yorke hostile to our position that the non-sectarian free publie school is the bulwark of American institutions, and does he claim that it is not the best place for the edycation f American children? 1 believe that our free public school system ! is a necessity to the continuation and pros- perity of our people. That it is the bulwark of our institutions I am not prepared to say, for I remember that our institutions were estab- lished and flourished for fifty years before there was a free public school system. I believe too that if by any contingency (which God forbid) our public school system ceased to exist, American freemen would still be found eble to defend American institutions. The best place for the education of American children is where patriotic and conscientious American_parents choose to send them. The Private schools of the pastgave to America the greatest patriots and the fire-lesl states- men in her history, and I deciine to admit that the private schools of the present are in any degree inferior. Freedom of teaching and and private enterprise are the true American idees in the matter of education. Because the A. P. A. tries to destroy the non- sectarian character of the public schools and attempts to abridge the right of Ameérican perentsin the education of their offspring, 1 am opposed to it. 1am the more opposed to it that the leaders of this A.P. A.show by their writings, their speech_and their spelling that they are unacquainced with the inside of any school, public or private. QUESTION 15. Is Mr. Yorke liostile to the principle which condemns the support from the public treas- ury of kny sectarian school, reformatory or other institution not under public control? 1 object to theappropriation of public money for sectarian teaching, and therefore I object to the A. P. A., which wonld force sectarian teaching and sectarian textbooks on our pub- lic schools. 1do not see, however, why the State sbould not support, feed, clothe and meaintain its de- pendent classes in institutions under sectarian control if such support costs less and is more humanizing than any which can be otherwise provided. The experience of California is not such as to induce the taxpayer to experiment with many more State institutions. Moreover, the dependeut children of the State have as much right to & religious educa- tion as the children of the rich. If the State refuses to the orphan what the citizen gives his child the State is making invidiovs dis- tinctions between the fortunate and unfortu- nate. Idonot think that Americans have yet come to that ;inoinl when they will deny to the boy or the girl who has been bereft of parents that religious teaching which they give their own littie ones. Because the A. P. A. would infect all State institutions with sectarianism and would pun- ish the children of misfortune by refusing them a knowledge of the faith of their fathers, 1am opposed 1o the A. P. A.snd to the hypos crites who rule it. QUESTION 16. Does not Mr. Yorke believe that exemption from taxation is equivaient to & grant of public funds, and is he hostile to the taxation of all Em rty the title to which is not vested in the Vational or Btate. Governments or their sub- divisions? 1n non-productive operations, to say that ex- emption from taxation is equivalent to a grant irom public funds is rubbish. I believe that the exemptions from taxation grantea by the State of California to young orchards, for in- stance, are dictated by sound public policy and are in no sense grants of public funds. Moreover, 1 believe that in those States where exemption from taxation is granted to churches the result is a thousand times more beneficial to the State than the paltry sum re- ceived in taxation would be. In California church property has been al- ways taxed, and therefore there is no need for thet plank in the A. P. A. platform. Moreover, I believe the Methodist Bishops and preachers who are agitating this repea) of lieve that the schools to which the members of all sects contribute should be entirely non- sectarian. Because the A. P. A. has tried suc- cessfully to introduce into those schools such seciarian practices as-Bible'reading and thus destroy their non-sectarian charecter I con- sider the Rev. Mr. Hudelson’s followers the most insidious enemies the public schools have. QUESTION 7. Does Mr. Yorke oppose protecting cur cltizen lavorers from Euroiean pauper and eriminal labor, and is he hostile to honest and educated immigrants who propose becoming American citizens and will forswear allegiance 1o every foreign power? 1 strongly favor protecting our citizen labor- ers, not only from European pauper and crimi. nal labor, but aiso from Cansdian paupers and New Brunswick defaulters. Because the A. P. A. by its bo{cott and labor bureeu is l‘l’yinfi 1o oust our citizen laborers and put in ‘tHeir places unnaturalized immigrants I am opposed 10 the A. P. A : Iam not hostile to the incoming of honest and educated immigrants, but I am hostile to thenflux of immigrants who form the main strengih of Mormonism, as they torm the main strength of the A. P, A B QUESTION'8. Does Mr. Yorke oppose putting into office the tax are just as good Americans as Mr. Ben- jamin Hudelson, and 1 know thut they pay more in taxes than the whole A. P. A. put to- gether. QUESTION 17. Does Mr. Yorke fayor the eniistment in the military &rm of the Governmentof any one not actually & citizen of the United States? Any man whe is willing to offer his life in defense of our Government and who swears al- lef(lfinee tothe flag is fit to be an American soldier. In the war of of the Revolution and in the War of the Rebellion men who were not citi- zens earned their cltlunlhlx at the price of their blood. Because' the A.P. A. is mainl; made up of men who in the days of the rebcl lion were in Canada -shouting for the Con- federacy or hiding in sugar-barrels to escape the conscription, or fight; nst the Union with English guns in their hands, I am op- posed to the A. P. A. There is neither law_nor Fm”l toprevent all the membersof the A, P. A, rom enlisting. However, the manliness of.the soldier never agrees with the canting cunning of Apaism, and if a soi-disant patriot comes THE SAN FRANCISCO CALL, FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 1896. ‘proof of the ability and honest intention to be- come self-supporting American citizens from all immigrants? I think such a proof is necessary to protect ourselves against pauper immigration. Be- sides, I am of the opinion thatif such proof were demanded more strictly along the Cana- dian border, we would be spared the burthen of mln{ A. P, A, lecturers who have neither the abil ti nor the intention to support them- selves by honest toil, but who strive to make their livelihood by stirring up religioue dis- sension among neighbors. QUESTION 19. Would Mr. Yorke object to the repeal of the act authorizing the naturalization of minors without a Emvious declaration of intention, and is he hostile toa provision by law that ersons to be naturalized must speak the nguage of the land and must prove seven years’ continuous residence in the country from the date of the declaration of intention? Iam of the opinion that minors who have been raised and educated in America are just as competent to become citizens as the Canadian or Scandinavian who has been here for seven years. Iconsider itagood thing that all cancidates for citizenship should know English, butI would remark that if a gram- matical knowledge of the language be exacted as a condition for registration the A. P. A. will nult‘he able to muster a corvoral’s guard at the polls. QUESTION 20. Does Mr. Yorke objact to & protest against the laxity with which our present naturalization laws are administered ? Like the purification of matter which depends muc] who administers the law. administered with laxity. But when a political society pays its cappers to gather into its ranks all the sailors and vagrants who come into a port I believe it is laying iis plang for an extensive sysiem of colonization and grafting, and that it is put- ting & premium on the lax administration of the naturalization laws by its tools on the bench. This the A.P. A.isdoing right here in San Francisco, and for this do all good eiti- Zens oppose it. QUESTION 21. Is Mr. Yorke hostile to the public inspection at all times of all hospitals, asylums, reforma- tories or other institutionsin which people are under restraint ? Every institution which kce]p restraint should be open at al tion by the civil authorities. Because the A. P. A. lodges exercise such re- straint on their members when in session—go- ing even to the length of locking doors and searching visitors by force with threats of bod- ily harm and exhibition of deadly weepons—I believe that such meetings should be super- vised by the police. QUESTION 22, Does Mr. Yorke favor National or State legis- lation in favor of auy one seciion of the coun- try or of any class? The burthen of law should be equally dis- tributed, and its favors should go to all who bear the burthen. When therefore the A. P. A. attempts to de- prive Catholics of the benefits of equal law and of & proper share in the favor of the State they are violating this principle, and are striving to benefit a certain class, to wit, non-Catholics, and therefore they are detestable in ths eyes of all fair-minded non-Catholics themselyes. QUESTION 23. Is Mr. Yorke opposed to such restriction of immigration aswill prevent paupers, crimtnals and anarchists trom landing on ourshores? This question I heve already answered. If the restriction had been long ago applied to Cenada the ‘A. P. A. would now be minus a grand president. QUESTION 24. Is Mr. Yorke hostile to the extension of the time for naturalization, to the end that for- eigners may become familiar with car instit tious and laws before they be permitted to vote? Ithink experience has sufficiently demon- strated the fact that the present time for nat- uralization is long enough. A foreigner who is not Americanized in five vears willnever be Americanized. Considering, however, that the leaders of the A, P. A.do not, weit even for five years before beginning the task of saying the country from the Pope, I think it is very ungracious for the Rev. Mr. l[udlfflsun to make any allusion tothe subject atall. olitics, this isa on the Judge No law should be 8 persons under times to inspee- QUESTION 25. Does Mr. Yorke oppose an educational quali- fication for every voter? Does he wish them to be ignorant of the duties and privileges of citizenship and the pliant tools of politicians? 1 believe in an educational qualification for every voter, and 1 believe in it the more that Iam convinced it would disfranchise the rank and file of Mr. Hudelson’s own following. Because the leaders of the A. P. A. are gathering up the ignorant, the besotted, the debased elements of the commnunity and voting them blindly on occasion, 1 am opposed to these leadérs, and every troe Ameri- can is opposed to the society which is the means of perpetrating such an outrage on our free institutions. QUESTION 26. Does Mr. Yorke oppose supporting from the public funds one general non-sectarian free public school system sufticient for the primary education of our children? I have already said that I consider such a system a necessity. Ihave also sald that the . P. A.is engaged in a steady design to de- stroy the non-sectarian character of our schools, and that for that reason all lovers of fair play were ranged against the conspiracy. QUESTION 27. Does Mr. Yorke favor using public funds or public property for sectarian purposes, whether directly or indirectly? Neither directly nor indirectly do I favor using public funds or public property for sec- tarian purposes. But i1 the State sees fit to pay for the main tenance of its wards at sectarian institutions, 1donot see why it should not doso. If the State pleces a boy out with a_farmer and pays for his clothing end support. the State is not contributing to sectarian purposes if the farm- er's wife teaches the boy 1o say his prayers and read his Bible. QUESTION 28, Does Mr. Yorke oppose the taxation of all non-Governmental property? 1 have already answered this question. I re- peat now that if the State wishes to remit the taxes of non-productive property or even of productive property ‘which it wishes to foster, such remission is not always ainst public policy. Each case should be de- cided on its merits. There are no.universal propositions in politics. QUESTION 29. Does Mr. Yorke oppose the publle inspection of all private schools, convents, nunneries, monasteries, seminaries and other educational or charitable institutions? Most certainly I do, and for the very same reason that I would oppose the inspection of my home. If any institution becomes a public nuisance or & menace to the welfare of the State there are lJaws enough to abate it with- out having recourse 10 & smelling committee. If tweaty ladies choose to live fn community Ido not see why their privacy should be dis- turbed as long as half 2 dozen can live in a boarding-house and not be subjecied to espi- onage. This demand of the A. P. A. platform is the one which rouses the most dispust in the minds of respectable Ameri- cans. It is fathered by men, Mr. Benjamin Hudelson, whose past will not bear investi- gating. 1f IIJJIH forward by the foul-mouthed and foul-lived satyrs with whom your society abounds. Such demand is a disgrace to Americanism and the curse of God is falling on those, one by one, slowly but surely, who first put it forward to stain the fair fame of the best and purest of the womanhood of our land, QUESTION 30. Does Mr. Yorke support for office any person who recognizes alleglance to any foreign or eccleslastical potentate as superior to our Government? I have alreaay answered this question. Iadd now that the A. P. A. owes allegiance to a foreigner, Traynor, the grand master of Cana- dian Orangeism, and therefore thatno mem- ber of it is fit even to be a dog catcher. The A.P. A, lodges have to do as Traynor orders and to vote as he commands. He isthe su- preme officer of a society which swears alle- giance to Queen;Victoria, and to this subject of a foreign potentate Mr. Benjamin Hudelson bends his suppliant knee. QUESTION 31, Is Mr. Yorke in favor of nting public lands to other than actual nufe':a? A 1am not. 1believe that those who profit by the liberality of the Government snould mars some return by cultivating the soil. Because the A. P. A. s made up, jn its higher reaches at least, of birds of passage, of men Who are without stake in the community, men whose progress through the country has been marked by & trail of unpaid debts, I believe the A, P. A. violates spirit if not the letter of this principle, ana ig time 1 am able to say thatitis condemned out of its own mout] Such, Mr. Editor. are my answers to the ques- tions of the Rev. Benjamin Hudelson, whicn answers he has desire desire. In them I have made no statement which I am not ready to prove—not with mere. assertion, but with authentic documents, with aflidavits and with facts. It is & good thing that the public will have a1 opportunity of seeing the A. P. A. from the inside. Manygood Americans have been led into it by false pretenses, but enerally one meeting was sufficient to make them re- nounce it with all its works and pomps. Indeed, if any one considers for & mo- ment, ' what folly it is to expect that such & society could be anything but a swindle! An American Protective Association, forsooth? Allnfl:{h America needed protec- tion at the hands of such as they. The 10 protection from a dark-lan- by chance under military discipline he ends by deserting, like the first of his kina, Benedict Arnold, QUESTION 18. Does Mr. Yorke object to our requiring some can n.# needs tern b ?d.e God made it to fly in the blessed sunlight, id_every colorin its foldsabhors the night. When the bats come ont of their caves to protect the eagle and the moles eme: {rom their tunnels to defend the lion, then will itve time for the A, F.A.t0 pose before the T the thirty-first | with such a consuming | merl- | world as guardians of these United States. Yours tml;, P. C. YORKE. YORK TO YORKE. The Liberal Lecturer Says the Priest Has Not Answered His Arguments. Dr. J. L. York, the liberal lecturer, serds the following communication in reply to a letter trom Father Yorke: Mr. Editor : As to Father Yorke's reply in THE CALL of last Wednesday to my lecture of last Sunday night let me briefly say that his reply is a literary novelty, and while we were almost overwhelmed with bis deluge of words, and deeply impressed with his learned dis guisition, we fafl to find any reply iff refuta- {ion of the salient points contained in our lec- | ure. The gubject of my lecture, ‘‘Revelation and | Inspiration,” upon which .I spoke, he replies | to by a play of words about the eternity and universality of matter, and tells us that “mat- ter is the antithesis of univeml!ilgv" and does not in reality exist at all, and the reason he glves Lo prove that matter is not eternal is be- | cause 1t can be burned up as coal is burned up. | But does the gentleman presume upon the ig- norance of the reader? Even a schoolboy | should know that as coal it is destroyed, but | 88 matter it was by combustion convertible | into light and heat, and still exists in other forms. " Will Father Yorke deny this in plain terms, and without verbosity, as life is too short 7 Again, Father Yorke says, “that the univer- sality of matter is not a fact, becanse matter can be cut into chunks ard some of it put here and some of it put there, and therefore it is the :xemjuft of limitation and hence cannot be uni- rsal.”” We were not talking about & chunk of coal or & chunk of any otber of the various forms of matter in our lecture, but simply matter, that divine substance of which all things are com- posed. Will our friend, Father Yorke, point out to the readers of THE CALL what there is thatis not matter or dependent upoa material {or its existence? Ana, again, will he make anotner contribution to the science of our day by revealing to the readers of average acumen what place there is, and where it is, that mat- ter in some form does not exist? Father Yorke says that I am unscientific. Well, perhaps I did not express myselt with thai degree of perspicuity which 1should do, and I promise to do better in the future, but I will stand by my statements as to the eternity, universality and divinity of matter, and so far as Father Yorke's reply is concerned they gtand unrefuted. Father Yorke says that “Dr. York has never seen matter, never touched matter, never came in direct contact with matter in any shape or form.” What a strange proposition is this. To what purpose and end are the phenomena of sight, hearing, feeling, tasting and smelling if we do not come in con” tact with the realm of physics? __And if the contact of our senses with matter is indirect, what is the medium of contact? And whatever the medium of contact may be | does not disprove the existence or immortality | of matier, and I cannot eccount for such a | statement unless it be that nature’s science is | not taught, perhaps, to any great extent in Catholic schools. Or, perhaps as Festus eaid of the Apostle Paul, “Thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.” And with such unconvineing proofs of the truth of Christianity as Father Yorke bas furnished in his comments, we are not able to say with King Agriopa, ““Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.” And yet we may agree to | disagree and get to heaven after all. | Father Yorke says that “When Dr., York says that matter cannot be destroyed he is con- | founding matter with energy or force.” Not s0. We are not making eny such mistake. It is Father Yorke that is confounding force with | matter, &5 he further states that matter has o | existence and yet is a function of force. This | is about as clear as mud. Now, if we know | anything, we know that matierisa self-evident | fect, and when I run againsta rocking-chair | and knock a big piece of skin from my shins | no Christian science, tweedledee and tweedle- dum, now you see it and now you don’t theory can make it clear that matter is nothing—and | force a function of nothing. Such logic as this may do to sustain the | Christian theology and absurd dogmas of the | church, but will hardly answer the purpose of seekers after truth. Of matter we may know a few things as we find it in multifarious | forms. But of force we know of it only as we see it manifested in matter, inherént in matter and coexisting with it,and no doubt | eternal in its existence. Father Yorke says my statements are | puerile. What shall T say to him in a kindly spirit_and in-truth which will not be puerile? | And I am surprised that & man of God, and resumably & lover of truth, should so iar | orget himself as to resort to the most paltry | sophistry and quibbling evasionsof the simple ! facts of nature. And what a pity that reason, the light of God in the soul, should be so pros- tituted and blurred as to deal in this hair- splitting, subtle way in his commentson our | lecture, which, to draw it mild, is beneath the | dignity of the cloth as weil as the subject under discussion. Ana I am reminded by the craft and cunning of Father Yorke, as displayed in his peculiar | style of reasoning, of Father Lambert's book and his reply to Robert G. Ingersoll's lecture, in which Colonel Ingersoll said, “Fire burns, oison kills and water alwaysruns downhill.” Whereupon Father Lamberc occupfes five pages of his book to destroy the force of five {Hllu words of Ingersoll: that “Water always runs downhill.” Father Lambert flatly de- nied the statement, and argued that more water went anm in the stems of vegeta- tion in & day than ran over Niagara Fallsin a whole yesr. Such reasoning and evasion of truth as this can only be required by men on the walls of Zion to prove the mysteries of sn- | erstition. We trust that Father Yorke will orgive us if we have been too harsh in our reply to his comments on our lecture, and it is only the letter which killeth while the spirit of it was intended glve life and quicken our apprehension of truth. We scorn the ides,of controvery for the sake of controversy, and only in the interest of truth and sincere belief is debate and contro- versy justifiable, and our modesty in this re- glrd will be regulated by our appreciation of ow little we know of the great questions ‘which concern our belief. Knowledge and bo- nef are two widely different things, and as our realm of knowledge is increased our realm of theory.and beliefis proportionately decreased. And happy is the man who has discovered his own limitations, es he will then be able to see the limitations of others. And what a great bargain it would be for same if they could be bought for what they really know and sold for what (he; half believe and pretend to know about God and religion, and at the best are only blind leaders ofthe blind. And as to the great religious discussion now going on in THE CALL, and the prodigious amount of good brains and labor expended on the part of the A. P. A. and Catholic clergy in thetr struggie over the knotty problems of church and state, itis a good omen. And we think that this war of words will do much to enlighten the mass of our peopleé on the great questions o vital to the peace and mbnfly of our Republic, We think it is a good thing that the church has been called to the front to define her atti- tude to State and school, and that Protestant- ism, as well as Romanism, must take the hint and keep religion out of politics and hands off from our free schools. Of course political shysters and cheap patri- otism have had much to do in promot; ng a qu?el of hate between Protestant and Roman christians, which will cease when Christians discover that this is not a Christian country and i(s constitution is free from religious taint and yet affords ample protection to all religious faiths in the enjoyment of religious liberty. De. J. L. YORK. P. A. PRINCIPLES. The State President of the Organl- zatlon Concludes Hls Inter- pretation. B. F. Hudelson, State president of the A. P. A., concludes his interpretation of the order's principles in the following letter: OFFICE OF THE STATE COUNCIL OF CALIFORNTA, Room 40, Academy of Sciences Buildin, SAN FRrANCISCO, Cal., February 13, 1! To the Editor of The Call—DEAR SIR: In my lastletter I set forth the A. P. A. interpreta- tion of the “Objects of the A. A Herewith 1hand you the A. P, A. interpretation of the “A. P. A. Platform’’ and of the “Political Prin- ciples of the A, P. A.,” thereby concluding my interpretation of the principles of the order. You will notice that in several instances 1 bave simply ?uo(ed the sections in their proper order without any attempt at explana- tion. This I have done ifor the very good reason that tLe sections so treated are clothed in Janguage so simple that their meaning can- uot be rendered more cl A, A. P. A. PLATFORM. neiner P Eace o icontam, whieh knovs e, first requisite for Tembersaiper 5 “Loyalty to true Americanism” is in our opinion such allegiance to the constituted tne United Statesand its free institutions as forbias the ylelding. of contam- poraneous allegiunce to any foreign military, clvil or ecclesiastical power which may claim nx;;fiixnty in any particular over the indi- 2. “The association is nota political party and does not_controi the political affiliations’ of its members, but it teaches them to be intensely ac- tive inthe discharge of their 1wnuml duties in and out of party lines because it belleves that all problems confronting our le will be best solved by & conscientious discharge of’the. duties of citizenship by every individual.” . The fundamental principle of our Govern- ment requires that the will of the majorit; shall rule. We hold that that will is not a cannot be adequately expressed by the ad- herents of any pnryllxem';'r‘. orb!l’fll 'wfiac cal ring or combination, and we believe that the best and only way to obtain such adequate expression of the popular will is for every citi- zen to be intensely active in the discharge of ais political duties, both in and out of party nes. 3. “While tolerant of all creeds, it hoids that sublection to and support of any ecclesiastical power no: created and controlled by American citizens, and which claims equal if not greater sovereignty than the Government of the.United States of America, is_{rreconcilable with citizen- ¢hip. L fs, therefore, opposed to the holding of oflices in National or municipal government by any supporter of such eccleslastical power.” This section needs no interpretation. The statement—support of and subjugation to any wer which claims sovereignty is irreconcila- le with citizenship—isus plain in its meaning 25 words of the English language can make it. 4. “We uphold the constitution of the United States of America,and no portlon more than 1ts guarantee of religious liberty to the mdividual, which does not mean that under its protection any un-American ecciesiastical power can claim abso- lute control over the education of children growing up under the Star and Stripes.” We hold that the absolute control of the edu- eation of children by any church is incom- patible with religious liberty and is an in- ringement of an inherent right of the State. 5. “We consider the non-sectarlan free public school the bulwark of American institutions and the best place for the education of American children. ‘To keep them such we protest against the employment of subjects of any un-American ecclesiastical power as oflicers or teschers of the public schools.”” “Bubjects of any un-American ecclesiastical ower'’ are, in our opinion, thase who yield ‘subjection to and support of any ecclesiastical power which claims equal if not greater Eovserelgm.y than the Government of the United tates.”” 6. “We condemn the support out of the public treasury, by direct appropriation or by contract, of any sectarian school, reformatory or oner institu- tion not owned and controlled” by public author- _This sectioh condemns the payment of pub- lic funds to private institutions of any kind, whether for the restraint of the criminal or the insane or for the care of the sick or the widowed or the orphened. 7. “Believing that exemption from taxation ia equal to a grantof public funds, we demand that LO real or personal property the title to which is not vested in the National or State governments or their subdivisions be exempt from taxation.” This section contemplates the taxation of all non-Governmental property, whether held by churches, charitable institutions or private indiv}iduuls, end that such taxation shall be equal. “We protest against the enlistment in the d States army or navy, or in the militia of State, of any person not an actual citizen of the United States.” We mean by this section that no person should be placed insuch position that the State orNation might, in case of war, have to depend on him whose first allegiance Is due to some na- tion with which we might become involved. 9. “We demand, for the protection of our citizen laborers, the prohibition of the ‘importation of pauper labor and the restriction of immigration to persons who can show their ability and honest in- tention to become self-supporting American citi- zens.’ We purpose to secure proper protection for the wage-earners of our Nation. We are there- fore opposed to the admission of those whose competition is calculated to reduce American Inborers to peuperism. The restriction to “persons who can show their ability and hon- est intention to become seli-supporting Ameri- can citizens” contemplates the requirement of evidences of physical ability, moral character &nd ordinary education. 10. “We demand the change of the naturaliza- tioniaws by a repeal ofthe act nuthorizing the natu- ralization 6f minors without a previous deciaration of intention and by providing that no alien shail be permittedto vote in any Scate in the Union who cannot speak the language of the land, &nd who cannot prove seven years’ continuous residence in this country, from the date of his declaration of intention.” This section requires no explanation. 11. “We protest against the gross negligence and laxify with which the judiclary of our land admin- ister the present naturelization laws, and against the practice of naturalizing aliens at the expense ©of committees and candidate as the most prolific source of the present prostitution of American citizensnip to the Lasest us We believe that admission to citizenship should be granted only after the most careful examination of the applicant as to his qualifi- cations 1o become & proper oitizen; and that the offering of inducement, other than that which addresses itself to the patriotism of the person seeking admission, should be made criminal by law. 12. “We demand that all hospitals, asylums, e formatories or other institutions in which people are nnder restraint be at s1i times subject to public inspection, whether they are mafntained by the Republic or by | rivate corporations Or indi ua's.” We demapd this for the reason that the State is interested in all her subjects at all times and under all circumstances, and should make proper official investization to the end that abuses upon those who are under any restraint whatever shall be prevented, whetker that re- straint be the effect of the voluntary or the in- voluntary act of the person. 13. “We demand that all National or State legls- lation sffecting financial, commercial or industrial interests be general in character, and inno in- stance favor any one section of the country or any class of people.” The reasons for this demand are so manifest and its justice so evident that comment is unnecessary. Mr. Editor : Since writing the foregoing T have decided that, inasmuch as the “political principles of the ‘A, P. A’ merely epitomize what have treated in more detail in my interpretation of the A. P. A. platiorm, it is unnecessary for me to further consider those principles here, and for that reason I omit them from this letter. Very respectfully, B. F. ilUDELSON, President of the A. P. A. of California. HOW LEVY WAS CAUGHT. Deputy License Collector Benjamin Assumes the Role of a Countryman, and Arrests Him. M. Levy, the well-known ticket scalper, sometimes called “‘Nibsey,” was fined $20 yesterday by Judge Campbeil for violating' the license ordinance. It was Levy’s boast that he never could be caught, as he was too wide awake a customer for the deputy license collectors. ‘Word reached the License Collector that Levy was selling tickets on Kearny street for ‘the Paderewski concerts, and it was determined to lay a trap for him. Deputy Coilector C. W. Benjamin on Monday attired himself as a young man from the country in search of pleasure, and walked alon‘z Kearny street with a faraway look in his eyes. Hesaw Levy, and purposely threw himself in his way. “Say, young fellow,” said Levy, “don’t you want to hear the great Paderewski?”’ ‘‘Pagerwhiskey,” said Benjamin, “who may he be, friend 2’ ’I’han Levy expatiated on the tuoso’s talents, and wound up he had some tickets to sell cheap.. reat vir- v saying “I guess,” said Benjamin, “I'll take! Sarah there. Give me two of your tickets.” . Levy promptly presented the two paste- boards, and Benjamin as promptly showed him tfm badge and placed him under arresf —————— MORTON-STREET MYSTERY. Edward Evans Arrested Last Night and Held on Suspicion. Edtvard Evans was arrested last night on suspicion of knowing something about the killicg of Mamie McDermott on Mor- ton street. Evans told a saloon man on Morton street on Sunday night that he had been robbed of $400 by one of the women and that he was going to find her that night. Evans denied that he was on Morton street on Sunday night. He said he was on the Barbary Coast with a friend named “Frenchy” till about 1 o’clock Monday morning. Then he went to Al White’s saloon on the water front and the bartender spoke to him. Captain Lees had Georgie Howard, the dead girl’s roommate, before him last night. The only new feature developed was that she heard the murdered girl speaking to Louis Spenas, the rent col- lector, who was in the saloon about 12:30 o'clock. That would prove that she was muraered between that time and 1;15 o'clock, when she was found breath#hg her last on the bed. The Fee-Collection Case. The case of J. J. Rauer against Ed Williams, clerk of the Justices’ Courts, was argued be- fore the Supreme Court yesterday and sub- mitted. action is_one involving the 1 ity of the method of collecting fees now in vogue in this City—that is, the eollection of fees by the Assessor on certificates from the various offices, Girls’ Training Home. The Girls’ Training Home held its annual meeting at the First Baptist Church yester- day. The gwr ts of the various officers were , and the home was shown to be in a flour- isbing condition, THE PEOPLE BETRAED, Management of the Case Against Pool-Seller Isadore Mes- senger. NEW FACTS COMING TO LIGHT. Decision on the Pool-Selling Ordinance | Was Not a Fair Test of the Law. A deeper inquiry into the pool-selling case of the People vs. Isadore Messenger tends to verify the belief that the case was | “cooked”’ to get just such a record of testi- | mony before the Superior Court as the | pool-sellers most desired. In yesterday’s CALL the facts were' set | forth that a police officer, disguised in‘ citizen's clothing, went to purchase a pool- | ticket, but previous to his advent as a pur- chaser the deiendant, Isadore Messenger, knew of his coming, and so the money tendered was dispatched immediately to‘ the racetrack by a special messenger. THE | CaLwL inadveriently mentioned the trans- | action as connected with the Slater case, ! whereas the real defendant was Isadore Messenger. The case was heard in Police Judge Charles A. Low’s court, Department 4. Notice of appeal was filed August 16, and | appeal papers and settled statements on | appeal were transmitted to the Superior | Court August 20. The remitteur was re- ! ceived August 23, judgment reversed and | case dismissed. { Judge Wallace reversed the decision of the Police Court on the ground that the defendant uim{;ly performed messenger service, and violated no law in sending the money to the track for investment. 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TAINTED BLOOD-Impure blood, due beyond reasonable doubt, that there was collusion somewhere to get a decision on | an incidental issue, and not on the merits | of the ordinance, against pool-selling. | When Patrick Sullivan, an officer of tbe | police force, went to Isadore Messenger's | place in the disguise of a citizen to buy a pool card on the races the defendant, Mes- | senger, knew that Sullivan was ‘‘a cap- per,”” as he expressed it, for the police. An investigation will be instituted to ascer- tain from whom Messenger got the tip. The police authorities who engaged to make the arrest were surely betrayed by some one'in the service or the confidence of the department. The case was so managed 1n Departmen! 4 of the Police Court that Judge Low’s suspicions were excited.” At the time of the trial and since then he imparted his doubts concerning the integrity of the pro- ceedings to John T. Dare. Yesterday Judge Low was asked to mention the incidents or circumstances which aroused his sus- picion, and he said very frankly that the case was not conducted on either side with | the vigor or spirit indicative of earnest- | ness. He observed that counsel readily | agreed to one theory or another, which led | him to suspect that an arrangement to | agree had been formed. { Judge Low is convinced that the law prohibiting pool - gambling will be sus- | | tained, if a test case reaches the Superior Court, on the merils ot the ordinance. He does not regard the decision on appeal in the Messenger case as a test of the Jaw. The papers in the case were not accessi- ble yesterday afternoon, but when they are produced ciose examination may be made to ascertain if the statement on appeal was fair to the cause of the people. The records, however, do plainly show that there was little time lost in "gettin, the case heard in the Superior Court ang in making up the official record that the decision had been reversed and the case dismissed. The business of pool-selling in Messen- ger’s house was not seriously embarrassed by the proceedings. When the wheels of justice move in a preferred case the revolutions are exceed- ingly rapid, but in other cases where the interests of the people demand speedy trial the wheels move provokingly slow. MAY CLOSE THE SCHOOLS, Board of Health to Demand Better Sanitation of Buildings. Dr. Hart Declares the Supervisors Must Act to Save the Lives of Children. Dr. Henry. H. Hart and Dr.J. M. Wil- liamson, a committee from the Board of Health, will appear before the Finance Committee of the Board of Supervisors this morning to ask that the urgent necessity fund be employed to put the schools of the City in a prover sanitary condition. The two doctors have spent considerable time in investigating together with the Committee on Buildings and Grounds of the Board of Education and J. P. Kincaid, superintendent of school buildings. ‘“We must have the schools put in better condition,” said Dr. Hart last night. “Our committee is going to demand funds to do this to-morrow. The board can get the money somewhere. If they refuse it we will close such schools as we have found unfit for habitation. Y - “And there are many of them. Dr. Lovelace reported a list last September that were in unsanitary condition. The schools he condemned were Sutro Pri- mary, Mission Grammar, Webster Pri- mary, Lincoln Grammar, Everett Gram- mar, Marshall Grammar, Buena Vista Primary, Columbia Grammar, Fairmount Primary, Bernal Heights Primary, Horace Mann Grammar, Irving Primary and Cooper Primary. Only one of these, the Sutr) Bchool, has been put in proper con- dition. One other school, the Richmond Primary School, has also been improved. That is all. “Why. in the Marshall Prlmni School, back of the Mission Grammar, they have open wooden vaults. Besides this the drainage pipes leak and the floors of the yards are saturated with the discharge. The wooden vaults are always a menace to health. They allow the seivage to seep through and the walls and surroundings retain the filth for years. “The committee of the Board of Educa- tion are heartily in co-operation with us. They promise to assist in pressing the matter as much as possible. ¥hey realize as well as the Board of Health that the lives of thousands of children and their teachers are jeopardized by delay. The summer months will soon be here. The first hot d‘gl will expose all tnose attend- ing the schools to disease, suffering and })ernnp- death, for the warm air will bring orth deadly miasmas from all the rotten open pfinkinr. vegetable for years, ‘‘1 know that the Board of Health does not intend any hardship toward the pub- lic nor the school-teachers,’”” Dr. Hart con- cluded, ‘“but there is nothing of more im- portance to us than the health and happi ness of our chiliren. The public schools shouid not be breeding-places of disease. This they are at present, and unless they are cleahsed. and more- regard is paid to their arrangement, the school-children would be the first to be attacked i there should be an outbreak of diphtheria, scar- 1 let fever or any other contagious disease,” wooden vaults and the decayed - beneath which animal and matter has been decomposing [ to serious private disorders, carries myriads of sore-producing germs. 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