Omaha Daily Bee Newspaper, December 21, 1890, Page 14

14 THE OMAHA DAILY BEE: SUNDAY, PECEMBER 21, 1890.--TWENTY PAGES. [HE DEFEAT OF PROHIBITION. How the Bankers and Business Men's Ase sociation Accomplished It. THE FUNDS AND THEIR DiSTRIBUTION, Hon. E. Rosewater's Testimony in the Gubernatorial Contest—Some Interesting Campaign History Made Public. The fcllowing isa continuation of Hon. E. Rosewater’s testimony in the gubernatorial contest that has been in progress during the past week. A partof Mr. Rosewater's testi- mony has been published, in which he de- tailed the causes leading upto the organiza- tion of the state Business Men's and Bank- er's association, and that organization's plan of campaign, The following 1s a continua- tion of the stenographic report : Q.—Then your committee used in Omaha to nssistyou in procuring foreignersto be naturalized the different organizat that ou have named, towit: The Personal Rights league, the Danish society, Bohemian socievy and any others besides thesel A.— No, these fellows used us. They came around and wanted us to belp them pay this bill, and I said we would pay it. Ourorgan- 'mflnfllnn was 80 arranged, as I stated be- ore, that we paid very little attention in Omaha to that question Is it not truo that atone of the meet- ings of your committee this question was @iscussed and it was agreed that the execu- tive committee of the association would use every neans in their power to secure this not only in Douglas county, but throughout the staie? A.—No, that branch belonged to the Personal Rights league. But what we did agree towas this, We decided that inasmuch s there wer nany societies, and someof n didn’t h the money, and a great many of those who were to be naturalized were workingmen, and about all they could do would be to give their time to go for the naturalization papers, we thought we would arrangeto relieve them from the expeuse of the pers., Q.—From whom did that request. come to our committee? A.—] cangive you an idea, for instange, the Danish society would send 8 couple or three men to call on me personal- lyand say: “Giveusa requestfor such a numberas we want,” and I would make a request for three or one, For instance, the editor of the Bohemian paper called on me, and so did Mr. Kaspar. Q.—Who was Mr. Kaspar acting tor] A.— For the Bohemians and on his own account. There were any number of volunteers., As | knew Mr. Kaspar and I knew he was all rightand on_general prin- ciples I might recognize him the same as a member of asociety. The editorof the Bo- hemian paper was all right, and I simply gave him such an order as the others, Then who called upon you from the Personil Rights league? A.—Sometimes we bhaa Mr. rund, sometimes Heimrod. There were five orsix. I think Mr. John Baumer was one, Q.—What official position did Mr. Heimrod 0ld? A.—He was the president of the state eagne, Q.—And what position did Mr. Lund hold? A.—1really don’tknow. He was one of the oficers, butI never inquired what his posi- tlon was. Q.—And_they approached your committee, or approached you tosee if your committee would not pay for the papegs of their mem- bers who were naturahized? A.—Yes, this was one of the agreements of their associa- tion. We bhad a general agreement with their association, and that was that they should work in their field and we in our flld. We paid the expenses on condition that” they would wot solicit subscriptions amongour business peoplo and capitalists. We furnished them means to carry on their part of that, Q.—That is the Bankers’ and Business Men’s assoclation and_your committee or as- sociation agreed to fornish the Personal Rights league money to carry on their branch of the work provided they would not solicit subscriptions from business men in Omaha? A.—That was the understanding, and we did 80. The expenses wero small; they had a lot rinting to do, translating in German and other languages, ete., and they had some- thing like seven or eight traveling men. Q.——Vou may state how much your organi- zation furnished to the Personal Rights league, A.—Something over ,000. Q.—In a lump or from time to time. A—From time to time just as they made requisitions, They presented the namesof the parties whom ‘they were employing and the purposes for which they needed the money in a general way. Of course the em- ployment of theso parties was left to them, Q.—Do yon know whether the sum paid by X‘our committee or your organization to the ‘ersonal Rights league represented the amount of money used in this campaign? A.-—It represented most of it. 1 understand that they collected about $00 inspite of their sgreement. That 1s they went in and col- lected that amount. 1 think that all they had at the very outside was about $5,000 dur- ing the campaign. Q.—And this money was paid I presume by the treasurer of the Bankers’ and Business Men's association, upon properly certified vouchers to the order of the Personsl Righrs league, A.—These things usually went through three or four hands, and in the due course of time were paid upon vouchers. They paid out their own money. Their treasurer, I presume, got all the money. I don’t think we paid’ any vouchers to their men. I think they would make a requisition for a certain amountto be used for a certain {nlr_posc, and the money was paid over to heir treasurer. Q.—And this requisition would bo inthe handsof what officert A.—I don't know whether it was the chairman of the finance committee or treasurer direct. Q.—Either the finance committeo or the treasurer would have all those papers? A.— Yes, sir. . Q.—And would the treasurer's books show he disbursements through that channeli A.—Well, 1 never saw either the subscrip- tion list or the treasurer's books, because -1 never had anything to do with the financial matters. Q.—Was there any partisanship in_the or- nization! A.—There was no partisanship h the organization. It was composed of men of all parties, and it was understood from the outset that there was to be no work done or effort mado for any candidate. The contract with Mr. Roggen was that if he was found at any time during the progress of the campaign favoring any eandidate or opposing any that he was to bo dismissed after five days’ notice, and in our arrangementwith the Personal Rights league it was as cleariy understood and agreed that they were to keep out of pol- ftics so far as candidates were concerned. At one time one of the organizers made a speech 1 the country, a democratio spocch, and I protested agalist it, and he was dis- missed, because it was a violation of our understanding, Wo wero accused by the republicans of working for Boyd and by the democrats of working for Richards, but as a matter of fact no part of the organization in any manner, shape or form was so uséd, Q.—You say Mr, Rosowater, that your committee furnished between $,000 and £,000 to the Personal Rights league! A.—Yes sir, Q—Don't you know that the Personal Rights league on the 13th day of October as & body, endorsed Mr. Boyd for goverort A.—Idon'tknow. In the first place this was about all paid them before the 13th of Octo- ber, The action they did take down there was reported here, and I remonstrated with Mr. Helmrod and told him thatthey had maaea great blunder in taking that step. They had sent out, as T understood, certain questions, Mr, Richards told me himself the questions they sent him, and they were with regard to the question of statutory probibi- tion, and also on the school question. Now. it was probable that Mr. Boyd had answered theso questions aftirmatively and the others had not. Thatwas notreally the Personal Ihghlu lesgue, but only some'of the members and some of the ofticers took a stand in favor of Boyd. Q.—TIs it not true that at least .one repre- tativo from ecach branch in thostate was resont there! A.-I don't know, for I don't oy enough about their meetings to say. Q.—What portion of this #,000 or §,000 was paid to the Personal Rights league after the 1ith of October! A.—Frobably not 800, Q.—Apoe you sure upon that point? A.— Yes, I am sure of it, because tho bulk of what they received was all paid-in long be- fore that time, because t made a very garly requisition on omething like in Ay or August, They put their men in the if you know! fleld early, and at one time we were not very flugh, and they had t8 stop their men as well a8 we Jid ours. Q.—What was this for! A.—For thelr men 1n the fleld, and for printing circulars and all sorts of papers, Q.— You may state whether or mot after | the action of the stateleague in Lincoln you took an ofcial action towards advising the Bankers' and Business Men's organization to withdraw their support? A.—I have taken no other action than personal action. I thought it was a great blunder andso told Mr. Heimrod., Q.—Was Mr, Heimrod a member of the Bankers' and Business Men's organization? A.—No: be was president of the Personal Rights league. (3.—Then you didn't speak to any person who belonged to the Bankers’ and Business Men's association on that question! There was nothing further to do. The acted and Itook no other steps. Q.—Did you continue to affiliate as an or- ganization " with the Personal Rights league after that time? A.—We had just such rela- tions as would bea mere understanding, T don’t think we had any meeting after that. Our agreements were made and requisitions had been made. I think the bulk of the bus- iness was done. (3.—Is it not true that the entire bill of Mr. Moore's for naturalization papers was all paid atthattime! A.—Yes: butthathad nothing to do with the Personal Rights league. You sce these papers had to be taken out at least thirty days before the election,and they must have been done by October 4, so_that what agreement we had must have been made in August or early in September. Q.—Do you know what proportion of these 2,800 foreigners were procured to be natural- ized by the Personal Rights league! A.—A very small proportion, 1 should say not one- fourth, because the societies dida_great deal and then we hadsome men specially working in that line, Q.—1 will ask you if itis not true that members of the Bohemian and Danish socie- ties did not belong to the Personal Rights league! A.—1 don’t kmow. I mnever be- longed to any of them, and consequently I could not tell. Q.—Are you ina position tosay that such isnotthe case? A.—I am not, because Ido not know anything about it. Q.—Then, 0 far as you know, these men that were acting for these societies were also acting for the Personal Rights league? They may have been, but if there ha : arrangements made for themand for their branches there would be no use for them coming to sce me, Q.—When you say $,000 or £,000 was fur- nished by the Banlkers’ and Business Men’s ion, you may state whether or not n addition to the amount paid to Mr. Moores. A.— Yes, that is entirely independ- ent of what we paid to My, Moores. We didn’t keep track of the Moores papers, as to whom the papers were gotten outby. We paid for the whole of them, and this other money was independent. Q.—These foreigners, as you have stated, were procured for the sole and only purposé of voting against probibition? A.—Thatwas the only idea. ou may state who was regarded as stinctive candidate of the anti-prohibi- tionists in the city of Omaha. A.—Candi- date for governor? Q.—Yes, sir. A—Mr. Boyd, the well known candidate of the democratic party, had announced himself against prohibition, 80 he was tied night down to that principle. He was an aiti-prohibitionist. We had no candidate. Q.—Youmaystate how the candidacy of Mr. Powers and Mr. Richars was regarded by the people of Omaha, A.—Mr. Powers' candidacy was not regarded as any very im- portant factor by our people. Q.—I mean with reference to the prohibi tion question. A.—His attitude was notdi cussed in Omaha ve much, and while was known to be or belicved to bea prohibi- tionist becausehe had written a_letter over his own signature to the New York Voice that he was for the amendn Although he denied that here in his speech we didn’t take so much stock in his denial. Mr. Richards had not taken any positivestand on this question. Personally he assured me he was in favor of high license and against prohibition, but he bad not so stated in pub- ic. Q.—You will please answer the question that I ask if you can—how was the candi- dacy of Mr. Richardsand Mr, Powers re- garded in Omaha utnm the question of prohi- bition; you have said that Mr. Boyd was re- garded as an anti-prohibitionist. A.—Boyd was regarded as an auti-prohibitionist, Richards as a man sawing wood and Powers was regarded as a prohibitionist or the next door to it. Q.—Isn't it true that Mr. Richards was re- garded by a large number of people 1 _this city as a prohibitionlst at heart? A. There were some—quite 8 number—who thought that he was not fixed in bis ideas on thesub- lgfit and that he was wavering between two sides, Q.—The Personal Rights league and the Bankers' aud Business Men's association were organized for the express purpose of defeating probibition? A.—Yes, and there was another question that entered into the campaign, and that was the question of statu- tory prohibition. d How did that enter into the campaign? A.—Because it was well understood that the prohibitionists intended if prohibition was de- feated at the polls that they would renew the fight av the legislawre. ‘What relevaney did that bear to the fight that was being made in thi It bore this relevaucy, that if N had done what Mr, Boyd had done he would have been elected. That s, if he had sad he would respect the willof the people and re- fuse to sanction making prohibition after the people had defeated prohib: the polls, he would have been undoubtedly the recipient of a great many more votes. Q—You think if he nad come out and de- clared himselfin the same menncr that Mr, Boyd did, and said that he was opposed to prolubition, that he would veto any attempt at statutory prohibition, that he would have been elected ! A.—Yes; if he had said that after the people had voted it down that he would letit stay there, Q—You mean to be understood as saying that it was understood in Omaha that Mr, Richards would not veto any attempt. to legis- late statutory prohibition? ~ A.—I mean to be understood assaying that they did not know what he would do, and for that reason a good many, voted for a man that they knew what he would do. Q,—What action did the Bankers' and Busi- ness Men's association and the Personal Rights league take in the premises! A.—The Bankers' and Business Men's assoclation took no action in tho premises. Their object was to defeat prohibition. The Personal Rights league I am not familiar with. Q—If there was any doubt as to whether or not Mr, Richards was opposed to prohibi- tion,and if there was any doubt as to whether he would veto an attempt at statutory prohi- bition, then it was not possible for ~ him to have thesupport of the Baukers' and Busi- ness Men's association? A. was not a partisan body. It had nothing whatever to do with o man's vote. They did whatever they pleased. Q.—T understood you to say thatit was or- ganized for the soleand exclusive purpose of defeating prohibitioni A.—To &clcul the amendment, yes, sir. Q.~Do you mean asa body? A.—I think this:They were not willing tostpport a man when they did not kaow how he stood on the question of prohibition. We could not have agreed to support any man. They certainly could not have gotten me to support the dem- ocratie ticket,and there were democrats thero whom I could not have gotten tosupport the republican ticket. We never discussed the question of candidates. 'Wehad that under- Stood atthe outset, Besides therenever was a meeting of the business men’s association after the month of May, and the business was done by committees—two or three commit- tees, Q.—You had numerous committees af ter that timel A, -Yes, any numberof them. Q.—1Do you meanto say that your commit- tees discussed the attitudeof Mr. Richards on this question? A.—There were men who wanted to know why Richards did not come out, We were constantly tryingto get him 1o say how he stood. Aud I tried two or three days before eicetion to get him to say ho would veto an attempt at statutory prohibi- tion. Q.—In your opinion it would have been ad- vantageous had he squarely annnouned him- self opposed toproibitionl A.—Yes sir, it would have. Q.—Were you a member of the convention that nominated him? A.—Yes sir. Q.—Is it not true that you drafted the plat- fA;r{m atthat conventiont A —I drafted most of it. Q.— You were amember of that committee appointed by the chariman of that convention for that purposel A.—Not for the purpose. 1 don’t think Mr. Church Howe wanted me to draftit. Q.—Isn’t it true that you left out in that platforn any allusion or reference to the . do'Vou mean A, himn there! prohibition question! A.—Yes, because we thought it best not to get into a wranglo in the convention. Q.—In your opinton if it was better for you to take a‘squarestand on that why did you not. insert a plank to that effect in the platformi A.--Simply because we did not want to com- mit oir candidates on these questions. Wo probably had some candidates that were out and out prohibitionists, but most of tho can- didates were not pronounced on this issue, They had n\lu[llml a plank in spite of our protest in tho _ convention two years beforo pledging the party to submit prohibition, The party was committed to that {ssue and thoy could not go back on it, and all we could do was to await the resultof the election, Richards did not have to put a padlock on his mouth on this question of statutory prohibition, He could have talked just as freely upon this question s upon othcrs. It anyone had asked him if Lo would approve a law m*lkimi the rate of interest 4 per cent, he would have a right to s No,” and_he certainly had a right to say whether he would or would notapprove a bill nullifying the will of the people afterthey had voted upon the amendment, Q. ~Isn't it a fact that you are now criti- cising Mr. Richards for standing on the plat- form which you adopted? A.—There were men there who were 1 favor of prohibition, and the chances are wo would have hada wrangle. So we thought it had better be left sut all together, Now, forthe purpose of preventing a vou were willing to draw a platform which insured the defeat of the republicans at the fall election! A.—When wo drafted that we did not know who the candidates were goiug to be. 1 supposed that we wero going to nominate n man that could define himself and talk freely, but we did not hap- pen to doit. ({, ~You dov't think it would have been right for the candidate for governor to have advocated any principles which were not ad- vocated by the platform! A.—I should have considered it right for a man to have opin- fons of his own. Q.—You at this time consider that Mr. Richards should have gone farther than the convention which nominated him upon that question! A.—I think he should have at least stated that he would not undo what the people had done at the election. I only urged him to eommit himself on that question—that if the people voted it down he would not vote it up, Q.—T will ask you to state if he hadn't the same right to respect the feelings of those other men who were in tavor of it as had your committee. A.—He had a spect them, but their feelings would uot have })ww{ hurt’ in the least if he had spoken rec) Q.~~Do you thiok their feelings would have been hurt if they had drafted it in the piat form? A.—I cannot state. Candidates some- times have no feclings; they waut to be elected. I don’t know what their feelings would have been. In this instance the publicans were defeated on account of their candidate not wanting to be on either side, and he lost on both sides, —He stood on the platform? A.—He did y saying nothing, Q—The platform said nothing? A.—The tform was silent; but he could ha ex- pressed himself. Suppose somebody should interrogat s . Blaine on a question of wot inour platform. He an opinion. ~This was a vital question in this cam- paign? A.—It was a vital question although the platform was silent on it. Q—Was it not_the principal this campaign! A, —It proved end, Q.—You don't pretend to say t notseeitat that time? A.—I fores far back as when Judge Maxwell vendered a decision two years ago legalizing the action to submit it, and I said to Judge Maxwell : “You have sentenced one man_to one term,” he turned around and said: “Who is and I said: “You have sentenced Mr. unell to one term in congrses,”’ Q.— And your opinion is that the action of Mr. Maxwell was responsible for the defeat of Mr. Connellt A.—The defeatof Mr. Con- s the consequence of it. no effect without a cause und ¢ must, have been acause? A.—I saw that issuc would split up the re- pablican part, Q.—And still you are now criticising Mr, Richards because he didn’t take that stept A.—We committeed ourselves to submit this question, and all he had to do was to say that hie was cither one way or the other, Q.—And you still suy 80, although the plat- form upon which he had laced was si- lent upon that question! A.— Yes, sir; I do, because it would have made him friends, and as 1t is be lost on both sides, ).—You have been iu politics for some yeirs? A.—Yes: nearly twenty years. Q.—Is it customary for candidates togo outside of their platform and advocate prin- iples which their ty was afraid to put in their platform? A.—Men are always called upon toanswer people questious thit are not in their platform, There are local issuecs at times that malke a terrible racket. A con- gressman may be runuing and there is a postoftice to bé built und every fellow in town wants to know whether the postoffice is go- ing to stay where it is or whet itis to be moved across thestrect, “He may say noth- ing or he may say **perhaps it would be bet- ter to have it across the street;” and the ances wh a candidate something about a matter in vy is interestod, ast. diference botween man and the action or, in going outsido vt A—The princl- have nothing to question of to bein the Is there not a 4 postofilce by o congr of a candidate for gov tho princip i lature is about to do snme ble to damage a la v Is it not. true that therepublican party, as ' a party, had submitted the question of prohibition to the people, and whea you were 1upon this committee, you, us dual opposed the action party, and that is the reason that prohibition wias not insertedt A.—Nobody proposed to insert it there, but all they wanted to do was to put in a plank pledzing the governor to enforco the law. I opposed that because every pgovernor was pledged to enforce the law, and the committee voted that down and agreed with me. That was the only action we had on the subject. We mnever B the proposition to insert it in the plavform. Q.—I will ask you to state if you don't think it unfair to Mr. Richards to critise him for not doing the very thing that his party refused to do? A.—Perhaps some of hisad- visers would think that way, but I think dif- ferently. That saine question was asked me during the campaign, and [ regarded itas a little bit cowardly. We would not have cared if he would have: said 1f prohibition is de- feated that he would not allow it to become a statutoyr law, and if he had said that he would have got two more thousand votes in Omabha, Q.—When you said it was cowardly, what Ithink in refusing to put himself in position, leaving himself 1n that attitude of 4 man who was afraid of his own opinion, Q.—He never advocated prohibition, Q.—How could he retreat? advocated the other, either, Q.—How could he retreat! A.--He was in that peculiar position, he did not take a firm stand. Q.—Who put him in thatposition? A.—He put himself there, Q.—Did he ordid the republican party put A.—I presume the platform was made first, but that was no reason that he should not have an opinion. Q.—Now you may state who was the chair- mun of the finauce committee of the Bankers and Business Men’s association! A.--William A. Puxton, Q.—~What means were adopted to carry on their work! A.—They passed around the hat 80 faras I know and got peovle to subscribe and pay as much money as they feit Like con- tributing. Q.—When you say they passed around the hat you used that in a figurative senset A.— Yes. They hada paper and passed it around among the business men and bankers and pro- fessional people, and different classes of peo- ple that owned property in Omaha, Q.—When they passed around this paper was itlett free to the individual business man to subscribe whatever he felt able to give, or did this committee go a step further than that and name the amount that each one should give? A.—I never suw the subserip- tion paper and I don’t know just what method was adopted. 1 think that at any rate up to the last part of the campaign there was noth ing but simply a volunteer subscription. Each one who subscribed put down the amount he saw it to give, and they pald it iu instalments as they wished, Now toward the last I do mot kunow whether they solicited certain amounts from persons or not. They got vretty hard up and the expenses were running high, or rather the people were so confident of the A.—He hadn’t defeat of prohibition, that thero was a fow liko those during the jar—a fow ‘copper heads.” Q.—Have you any olfection tonaming some of thoso copperheads | Aw~I could name some of them, Q.—Do you know Whether any of those coppertoads were résonsible for prohibi- L:outl A~ don't Know anything about that. l{.—)’nw, you state that towards the latter end of the campaign tho committee got more solicitous for help. You may statc what methods they adopted then to raise money ? A1 don’t know that thipy adopted any dif- ferent methods, only, they increased their workers, Thoy first only had three or four, and they subdivided their work and let the work out—some to seo grocers and others dry goods men and so on, Q.—Is it not true that that committee had ameeting In which they formally assessed vory busfuess man in this city an amount oportion to the volumeof business which bodid! A.—T was say that T don’t beli tify that to be true. Q.—I will ask you to look at this paper and stite what it isi ATt is a blank of the Bankers' and Business Men's association. No, it is not a blank, it issimply a printed circular, ¢ @ member, but T will that any one will tes- A nt out by tho Bankers' and Busi- ness Men’s association) A.—It is signed by Mr. Paxton, chairman, 1 don’t know whether itwas sent out by them ornot. Some one else might have got up one, too. Q —You may state whether or not the Bankers' and Business Men's association sent out any such document as that to any person in the city of Omahal A.—I don't now. They didn’t send any to me, 1 had no means of knowing of the actions of the finance department. This whole business of money was leftin the hands of tue finance committee, Q.—You don't know whether a letter liko this was seut out! A.—I do not. Q.—Do you state thatyou do not know whether they did make any assessments or not? A.—Istate that 1 donot know. Q.—You stated that towards the latter end of the campaigu they bacame more urgent in their appeals for money! How was that urgency expressed? A — They had a profitable way of Q.—~What did ‘they hey in- creased the number of their committees or organized themselves into special committees aud canvassed the town and asked indiv uals or firms ntribute, sent out circulars for Q.—Doyou know ment was made any persons act 1S They may have 1 T know. thether or not any state- Mr. Charles A, Coe or for him to certain busi- men that in case they did not contribute to the extent of the amount named by the committee that there was a list known as the black list, and that their names would be placed on that listt A.—I say that there was no such @ black list, and "1 would say that he never said it, una I will bet on Q. —And you say positive acither he nor anybody actings for him ever made such, a threat as that to any business man in the city of Omahat A ~1 know there was no black list. I don’t know whatsome of them said. I know there was no black ist. It may have been said in a joke, but not in earne Q.—Youw *haivman of the executive committee! A.—Yes, sir, Q.—And did you or’ your committee meet with the finannce c nittee of that associa- A.—With some of thewr members, but never with the committee. [ never attended any meetings of the finance committee. Q.—Ther how do you know' the finance committee did't have any list of that kind!? A.—They tainly would have talked with me about it if they hud had one. Q.- What other means besides these that you hive enumerated did the finance commit- tee employ to raise wmoney! A.—I never heard of any other, Q.—Do yoi mean to be understood that all the money came from the business men in Omaha? A.—I know of ene other place where there was some other money sent. There was $100 came from Lincoln from M 105 hi a banker, aud I turned it over to the asso:ia- tion, Q.—That is the only money that came from you direct! A.—All that I know of from any place. Do you mean to say that the whisky 1 ou whéther #5000 was furnished to your asociation during the month of May by the whisky tr f Peoria to bo used in this campaignf A.—There was Q. -1 will ask you tostate if $15,000 was furnished to your association during the mouths of June and July? A, —I will say at no time from the beginiing of the campaign to the end of thecampaign was there fur- nished to our committee or association that amount by the whisky trust of Peoria, Ill., or auy other whisky trust. Q.- You may state whether ornot it is a fact that during months of May, June and July the sum of §35,000 or any other sum was furmished to the Banke: and Business Men's association either by the whisky trust of Illinoisor by any other partiesto be used in this campaign? A.—All the money we had together would scarcely amount to $5,000, The whole thing was a blank lie. There wasn't any money furnished to us by them in a \anner, shape or form, I think there was §3,000 offered but rejected. Q.—My question was “either by the whisky trast or by any other parties? T an telling you “by any other part The whole amount” was™ about #3,00 that we used, or somewhere a little over $0,000. It is perfectly ridiculous, In May, June and July we hadu't speut $10,000 up to August 1, and hadn'c had it to spend. The greatest trouble that we had was to raise the money that we did get, und get it here. Q.—How much money was used by tho Bankers' and Business Men's association if youknow! A.—I think all told it was a lit- tle over $10,000 or $43,00. I don’t know; 1 wasn’t on’the finance committee, but that is what I think it was, Q.— What proportion of that money was raised in Omahat A.—The bulk of it; %0 per centofit. I don't know what might have been done by individuals outside of our asso- iation. I am talking of the Bankers' and Busiess Men's association. Q. —Ninevy-nine per cent of the $42,000 or £43,000 was raised from the business men of thiscityl A.—Yes, sir. As 1 haveno per- sonal knowledge of individuals I cannot tell, Q.—Do you know whether or not Mr, Peter Tler received any money from the whisky trust? A.—I don't know. If he didpay it out he paid it out without our knowledge. He dida’t pay to us, Q—1simply ask'youif you know? A.—I told you I don't know. .~-Do you remember a letter written by + George Miller to a certain party in Nes York in which he stated that Mr. Iler was at that time in Peoria and he had received a telegram that e had been successful in his efforts toraise money there! A.—I remem- ber that article was published in the Voice, The representative of the Volce handed me that lettor, That is the first information had. Of course 1 don't know anything about it only just what I saw in the papers, Q.~You don't known whether the state ment made by Dr. Miller was true or mot! A, do not. 1 know this much however, that what we got got out of the whisky trust wasa lot of old papers and n good many of them are leftin Tue Bee building, and alot of ad. daresses that were stale and worthless, that I wish they had kept. Q.—What was the character of the papers? . lerature that was about fifteen years old, andalot of addresses and wrappers which were all stale and worthless, Q.—And 8o far as you know thaonly con- tribution made by the whisky trust of Peoria was made in the shape of literatureand wrapp I _A~That is all we had. Q,~Now I will ask you to state whether thero was anyono besides the Bankers and Business Men's association that was dealing with the whisky trust upon this question | .—I don't know, unless it was Mr, [ler himself. He is a memberof the whisky trust, Q.—Is it true that the Bankers and ness Men's association of this city wa fous that their connection with' the whisk trust should not be known? A.—It was de- cided at the outset that we would conduct this campaign without the lhiquor dealers and kept them in the background, andnot have any more relation with them than we were obliged to have. Q.— What was the reason that induced the assoclation to take that action] A, —Because the prohibitionists were charging all slong and bad charged that £100,000 was being poured into this state by the whisky people and that the saloonkeepers wero the main- spring against probibition o movement, and thatno respectable person would gu out and agitate against prohibition, and that it was all a movementof the thugs and rowdies, and we wanted to be free from allsuch Busi- ans 0 far as any public connection was ied! A.—Or any p: where we could avoid it. Q. —Isn't it a fact that your organization solicited from the whisky dealers’ associa- tion! A, —There may have been someof the members who had correspondence with them, but the association never did. Q. —And don’t you know that the finance committee made repeated efforts to et money from the whisky men of Peo o on this campaign! “A,—~Evidently they werd very uusceessful, as far as I can learn, if they did. Q.—1 will repeat thequestion. 1s itnota fact that the Bankers'and Business Men's association did make repeated efforts to get money or financial istance from the whisky trust of Peorin? A.—I don't know anythiug about it. I know only this, that the whisky trust people sent out anagent Lere by the name Turner, and he represented that they were going to take a very deep iu- tewst in the movement here, but for some oceult anything about, they took st, but they humbugged around here and never contributed i and if there is any reas , it must Turser told me himself, 2 whether the distilleries sk run or uot, as they controlled all es, and it would not ma liffer- ence, because more whisky would “be sold after prohibition carrvied than beer, and so they didn’t care. That was towards the last of the campaign Q.—Iwill repeat my question. Is itnot a fact that the Bankers and Business Men's a3- sociation did make repeated efforts to get ssistance from the whisky trust of y on the campaign! A,—They tainly did notto carry on the camp: with. H. B. Real Estate and Loan Brokers, A CHRISTMAS PRESENT Given in the shapeof a lot or house and lot inthis city is of far more benefitthan toys, diamonds and jewelry. Why not make such a present to your wife, mother or friend, that will double in valuein a year, and be a lasting benefit for life? We have lots joining EAST OMAHA, that the thousands of dollars to be expended there the coming of spring, will cause them todouble in value in less than a year, They areon track- age and can be bought for $800 each, on easy terms. . We huve fine residences In all parts of the clty, as well as residence lots. 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