The New York Herald Newspaper, September 16, 1878, Page 4

4 THE OIL MONOPOLY. Bradford Producers Explain Their Grievances to the Herald. INTERESTING FACTS. Glance at Pipe Line Books and the Company's Tanks, THE BUSY DRILL. Braprorp, Pa., Sept. 12, 1878, The importance of this vi question and the abuses charged against the Standard O11 Company have not been exaggerated in the least by the Heranp. A Btranger Visiting these regions would be surprised at the universal interest attached tothe subject, and that its gravity asa labor question is understood by the politicians i 18 only necessary to poimt to the tact Yhat the local *‘statesmen,” aspirants for office, great and small, are flocking to tl biandly confer with the various lead encourage the strongest electors by th their side of the question 1s the one which will un- doubtedly prevail inthe Logisiature of the State aud Capitol ot the nation, Ywo weeks since Governor Harwanit was in Titusville overlooking the quo war- fanto proceedings against the United Pipe tines Attor- ney Genera! Gilbert was pushing betore Judge Taylor, Yesserday General Hoyt, the republican candidate tor Governor, was in Gil City. To-morrow (9th inst) Speaker Sam Randall will be tu Oil City to inquire, it ig aid, into the producers’ griefs aad the transporta- tion trouvies, Why is it that suddenly so much in- terest has been developed by the politi- cians in these good people of Butler, Clarion, Alleghany, Venango aud Bradford counties? The reason is obvious. The railroad question, or the right of common carriers to discriminate as between ship- pers, is the groat pptitical question of the future, and that legislation will be shaped tn order that the pros- ent abuses will be corrected—at least in a measure— there is but little doubt, The large number cf oi Producers in this busy rogion seein to ve in oaruest, aud their mewortal sent to tre Governor ia one of the Strongest papers of the kind I have read of late years. Hearing ail sides of the question, then, discussed vy men of all degrees of intelligence, and knowing the interest taken by oi! producers in tho HERALD reports, your correspondent was not surprised to receive through the secretary of the Producers’ Council a scopy of the joliow1ng telegraphic despaten:— Bravrorn, Sept. 5, 1878, Hexny Braow, Titusville, Pa, make arranveuents for us to have the New York orrespondent now ut Oil City come te Bradford. Wo consider tis important. Answer WRAY. MeCULLAGH, BOYER BERRY, i 3 Houaa, A TRIP TO BRADFORD. In obedience to the desire of this very respectable committee of o:l producers I made a trip to’ the Northern oil flelds, which are about one hundred and twenty-five miles (rom the Alleghany River and Oil Creek districts, and found myself at the close of the journby ina picturesqu*, mountainous region, very similar in topography to Ol City, Rouseville, Cherry Ran and the lower country, the history of which io the old times—its rise and fall—seems like the phan- tasm of adream, Tho writer counted in one o1 these “cuns’/ at Tarport, about one mile from Bradford, 10 the line of his vision no less than one bundred and sev- enty-six derricks over wells he was assured were pro- ducing, in the aggregate, 10,000 varrels of oil per day. The difference in this region from that of allothers discovered isin the number of ts flow- ing wells. 1 have already described in the Hexatp the pumping wells, or those of small production, pumped by ‘heads’? three or four times ‘a day. These do not, as a rale, produce over four or five bar- rels per diem, but tho vaiue of the Bradiord aiatrict is lies in the fact that if a man gets a well—and failure to do so is the exception, not the ruic—he gots a “flower,” and the gas forces tno oi! out into his tanks without any applica- tion of his steam force. He has merely to watch so much money flowing into bis tanks ponrly—a very pleasant process. I do not Hud that the producers wuo have flowing wells find any very great fault with the Stanaurd Oil Compaay, who bave, untill recentiy, beeu paying $1 per barrel torcrade petroleum. It is generaily the men who bave pumping wells who can demonstrate to anybody's satigfaction that the bas:- ness don’t pay. THE PRODUCERS’ UNION, Perhaps 1 have left too long the committee of the Producers’ Council, who were found ready and will- Ing to give me all the information tn their power in fegurd Lo the motnods of transacting business of what they oullea their “natural enemy,” the Standard Ott Compauy. I am bound to say aiso they included in their condemnation tbat very respectabie body of gentiemea known to.compose the United Pipe Lines 4 Company, ihe meeting between the HexaLv corre. Spoudent and the velegution of producers at Bradiord Was heid ia the oflice of the Equitabie Pipe Line Com- pany—opposition to tue’ Uuied—and ine writer, en- lreuched vebind a commodious desk of tne compuny, Wok cown the statement of each complainant, wach 18 herewith given as iaitntully as possivie:— Mr, Boyer suid:—"1 am an ollicer of tue opposition (Equitable) pipe iine, We became a corporate body on tue Zist of last Fepruary. Since our organization ‘Woe Dave Jaid about jorty-#iX miles Of pipe, running oil from the Buffalo and McKean Ratiroaa to Foster Brook, the exireme easvern portion of the oil devel. opment, McKeun is our loading or oatiet point, We Joad into cars and carry three mlies to the junction of McKean, Buflaio and Philadelphia Kailrowd; thence we run (o Huflaio, and (rom there We loud into canal boats (rie Canal), by Waich means our oll reaches New York.” “What aro the grievances your company complain off” the reporter asked ‘1 will tell you, We were told whea we that when the oil was run to the railroad t Would be at the rack When called Jor and were would be ne delays in shipment, But we ioand ali serie of delays, When complaint was made it Was charged to Wo bad management of the person covtroiling that Draven of vusiness Ou the McKean Hatway; bur bis successor did nv better. Our company Suuliy, die covering 0 many obstacles throwa in their way, in- stituted quo warrano proceedings before Judge Wiil- Jams, wt Smethport, McKean coauty. The writ was Krauied, vul by agreement of counsel preceedings Were discontinued, aud the railroad threw no turther impediments in (he company’s way. KQUITALLS PIPE LINK TROUBLES. “*1n the outset our producers—who, vy the Way, con- trol (his pipe line and mauage it on equitable business Principles—nad arrangemenis with New York parties Vo take oi from this pipe, and they actually ued to Vulld the cars themseives and put them on the Buf- fulo aud Philiaveipuia Railroad to wke the ot from the Bradford district to Buffalo, Our line bad agreed With the raliroad as to the rate of freight, vat when the ours owned by the outside refiners were put da the track the Equitable Pipe hme was not reaay with their oi and the partios seut their cars to Olean to be loudod from the racks of tue United Pipe lines. “Toe Buialo, New York aud /hiladelphia road was then noutied by a. J. Cassatt, of the Pennsy:vania Kallroad, if the tormor ratlwa, joaued the care and hauled them over their road be would withdraw the Ihrongh freight of (be Pennsylvania Kasiroad from m, This throat bad its effect, and the cars laid at 1 UNL the Kquitabie dive line was ready with taeir What explanation can you give, Mr. Boyer, of such au extraordinary prowecding?? “(uere is only one, The vid Empire Trapsportation Company—Peousyivauia Railroac—uad a contrast with the Buffuio, New York and Philadeiphia road by Which ail eastward vounG oll should be shipped Over the Penosyivania Central Katiroad.”’ . “Why aol find such # howl hore in the rogion Against the United fines and no complaint about tuo Equitavle; is not explanation that the producers own your ii “No, it hes rather in tho fact that we have doue all wo could to accommodate vur customers AL tho Hime wo instituted stit ugainst tho ratiroad and found it impossibdie to get Cure, In order to make room in pur tanks for castomers we pumped our ofl on the ground, tor every barrel of whicn, of couree, we hud Wo pa os , ve beurd it stated you had difficulty im gotting pipe w isy your lines, what are the tacw?’’ “Just (nese, At the Commencemeut of our op Hons we bought a lot of pipe irom the pipe com: 1 in Paotiadelphia to be forwarded here with bill of ing This Wes at tho time Agreed to and deemed satistaetory. When seven cars Were loaded with the material in Phitadelphia tne Equitavie line was notiled shipment would not be wade unless cash Was pord io Patladelphia, A rep- waive of the Company was immediately sent paid the Cash and the pipe was lorwarded. 1 thibe J am Warraucod in saying, trom proot we pos- the Stanaurd Ol Company (hreatened the facturers that if they supplied us the ithafaw ther own trad and manufact United pipe ti erect thor own mills course supplying the thoit pipe TANKAGE Thounins, Mr. Boyer statod that when ine Equitable fre made conirects to tank atthe wolls the Unied Pipe Lines threatened ali producers to break their con. Sracts with (hem, «ud bever thereafter rua her ou if they dia basiness witu us, Tis activn wus realy was started, when the condition of aflairs was some- what ameliorated. ‘rhe room by this time became so enentes with writer was obliged to reduce th something like business meeting, putting questions himself and baviog them answered briefly ag possible on their merits. HRALD CORRESPONDENT —What doos iron tapkage Gost, and, briefly, how 1s 1t controlied ? Mr. McCuL.aGu (producer)—lron tunkage costs from twenty-tive to twenty-six cents per barrel You can eastly see, therefore, that it requires some capital to erect @ Lak of the capacity of 25,000 barrels. Now, When a producer went to (his expense the United Pipo Lines required a contract which bas not belore been made public in the newspapers. As the HsraLp published the contract th roducers’ Council required their members to sign, it seems to mea matier for puolic ‘information that this cov- United ime peeple require the atures should be published, Here it UNITED PIPE LINK CONTRACT, Memorandum vf agreement imads aud 37-, by and bot: part, and the Uni laws of the State 0! ne aa 4 Pipe Lines, ennsylvania, corporation purty of tue second p: That, for certain valuable considerations, the said par- tiga mutually agree as follor 1. Tho first party bere! Jers to the second party ull and exclusive use and contro! of # certain iron situate ai ——, known and described ae tollow: 2, The first party hereby covenants that ——. th owner of the said tunk, that it is tre from encumbrances or liens of way nud every keind, the sale storaxe of petrolean agrees to maintain seid tank aod dition in 4 ud part that if any re pai ry he will promptly, and at his own proper ch Mecessury Tepairs, and that if, tor any cause, such repairs spall uot be made by the party of the irst part, tue purty of the secong part shall make the same and charge the same to the party Of the first part. 3. The first party turther to pay ull ront or other cisims uow due or that may become due upon suid tank for tue ground upon which it is located, together with all taxes now or hereulter assessed upon it, 4. ‘The rst party further axrees that all petroleum held by the second pariy jor the said frst party shall be x0 held, subject to the 1ules that may from time to tame be adopted by the said second party for the xovernmont of its business, and shall be subject Lo an allowance to tae tecond party of one-quarter of oue per cent per mouth (in vil) upon the ‘age mmount so held for said first party. 5, The secoud party axrecs to hold iu ite general system of pipes aud tanks ps um belonging to the first party to au ame barrels of forty-two gallons enc first transported by tho seconc party’s pips second party agrees to Gpliver the oll above reterred to (oF wn equivaent amount) alter all charges and allowances siull bave veen iully paid treo on ears at any delivery polut of the United Pipe Lines ated by Brat party. he parties hereto agree that the attached sumplo of the foria of order now in use by thy second party,slail cons stitute «part of this aureemen that the terns and Cunditions expressed in said order the term» and con- ditions on whieh petroieum wili be kd by the said wes d party under this age ond party r ci and condit! 7. Under this agroemout the secoud party is toe exclusive voatrol of the aforesaid tank uucil the expiration of ninety days) nutice im writing of & denite to terminate the same, which nutice may be given by either party to the other. . {hn wisness wherect the said party of the thrat pare sual nd the Units bar id from the party of th of the sutd tank a rate sexl to be herew und secretary to sign tached and 1b Dainese Reveto in atiestabion thereot. preside: ‘Mr, McCullagh coatinued:—*'I'no principal point is, alter the contract 18 signed, the producer tills bis tauk und in order to make jurther room ior bis pro- duction he proceeds to seil of] out of bis tank, the only buyer beiug Bostwick & Uo, whlch 18 the same as the United Pipes Lines. Tho latter une notities bim, on Lis atjempt to rua ofl, thathe bas no room, His tank once being full nis tank privileges are ended. ‘Yue only way he cun get out ef this dilemma its to give notice tore United Pipe Lines that he desires bis tankage delivered buck to bim aud Dis cootract with the avsociation annulied, Tuts, you will see by the contract, requires ninety days’ police, and during this whole time the Uuited Pipe Lines, or Bostwick & Co., have the use of this producer’s tauks."” IMMEDIATE SHIPMENTS AGAIN. Mr. E. C, Houg, anovher prouucer, in tain questions, suid:—'Tne Union Pipe notifications trom producers of withdrawal oi tuukage to Such wD extent since the movement of the General Couueli that the terms of the contraci—ol which you huve a copy—have been sumewbat modified, lu other words, if the producer would sell Lis own on, Tun imte bis own tanks us 1mimeutate shipments, then he could be seoured.roow ; but this immediate ship- ment {8 Irom one to three and one hal! cents per barrel less than Oil City prices. Tuerelore tue nuva- ral resuit 16 Wuat any business man could see it would be—all the oil now ic the coumtry Is im the United Pipe Lines.and standara Company pool.” A PLAGRANT Cask. E. W. Coddington suid ue Lud sold some oil to Ki ern parties. Alter considerable delay cars were og Lhe track beiow she rack at Carrolionu, og & Ranroad, After bis cars wero loaded thi ory were billed by instructions of the ayout of tne United Pipe Lines at Bradford to Cuaries Pratt & Co., 0. New York, it 1# otaimed that the following despatcu in this conneciion was sent vy the operator at Carrol- ton to Mr, H. 5. Davis, of the United hnes:— I have sent Coddington’s oil to Charles Pratt & Co., ay you directed. ‘Tbe informant of the HexaLp said that when Mr, Davis was charged with having 4 such & despatch po did not deny it Another compiaint one of the producera made was Squitavle Pipe Line pays Ost City “certiti- ko producers, woile the Uutou Pipe Lines Will give ouly within five-ciguths ol a cent per bacrel of the price of “spot” oil an Oil Cry, thus muking a difference of avout one and five-cighihs cents tor im- mediate snipment, therefore cumpelling the sais of oil Detore It is run. The writer, aiter these conversations, walkod with @ number oj the committee to the olflve vi the United Pipes Lines ou Mutu screet, 1 wad been led to expect tw vee long lines of men clamoring ut the dovrs of the agent's vffice tor « cuance io soil thetr oil, ting tn to receive their orders trom Mr, Haskell, Bosiwiek’s agent bere, aud then coming out Wich uNpreoutions on the monopoly which was slowiy grimdipg them vo powder. i aim bound to say taut ou the occasion to which I reier 1 saw noue of the scenes £0 ollen descrived to me us of daily occurrence, itree or to Me Were sitting on Le svep loading to Mr, Huskeil office and Giscussing business in a quiet, uuexcited Way; bWo Or Luree Olhers Were JonUgiug i frock of tne Pipe Lines’ offer, ond in (he interior the ciorks Were pot particularly busy, aud affsirs moved aioax iu quite 4 mogovovoUs manner tor such a stirring place as Bradiord. Upon wsking the reasia of this luek of it was w dullcay; that tne Pipe Lives haa what relieving bbe producers siuce the lav ceeded uguiuss them, &c. iukiag all tue siato- ments, Lowever, and my own ovservaiiun, 1 ain strongly inclinew to believe that the statements of sceues ut tue Pspe Lines’ office 1a Bradferd have Oeen somewhat exaggerated, PRESMENING OTL. Mr. Adams, in wpswer to questions, consented to throw somy light ou what 16 calicd “ireshening” ott for the Hekatp, He expiained 4a follows “Lt 1 hold # certificate tor 1,000 barrels of ofl I oun HL tbe same op the door of the Ol Excuauge on the jay Of ibd issue; this 14 culled ‘regular? ava funds tor fiteen days, Aiter the cortilteate, from ity dute, has ronsay five days, that ds ‘old’ oi ahd is wot worta Quite 4o mach, Now 1p order to.eeil tuat as “lresne ing’ you have to pay $6 26 1or every flieen days, mu ing $12 50 per month tor ewch 1,000 barreis. LI partite have WUK4ge 01) Gab be Carried Without that expense, butibe Uaned Pipe Lices meke toxt prodt trom ait otuers. Even where taukage is owned, thatis not pow Owners can only fresten ot! that fs already in possession of the United liues. (hey connot rau iresh Uli rom their wells ito the pipes of ihe United against their tunkage, but ure forced to sell their product as immediate Suipmout, Which enadies the only buyer (Stundard Od Company) to get tue oul at tere own ig- ures.”? Ol course these statemmente I turmish with the bames and by the authority of Lause wie give them to tue for publication iu tue LxnaLD; DU Ihe War waxes 50 hot here between the frivmds und Joes DL the gou- tending parties tuarl canuot du better uran recom~ ined Caution Lo readyrs in accepting the Fadioal Views 01 either side. VISIT 70 TARPORT, Lhave already meationed iarvort, near Bradford, as being a 9Usy place, 1 drove out to the smoke opled valley (0 sev some of the big Wells, with the purpose of eXanuuing the Beata Works of Jnited Pipe Lines aud to muke a personal inepec- Lion vi the company’s tanks, WoICh, 1b Was cherged by the producers, were uot full, woile they (‘he of Wells) IMWi oll running OF the ground. fhe machive shops and engine rooms of the Untied lines uk this point are vertaiuly marvels ol vest cousiruce Yon, wid the order and method reiguing about tue works certalaly shews good Unsiness wavagement. Ov the bils in te avighburhyod are avuut ft. teen iron tanks each of ihe eapaciiy Of abou niy-live thousand barrels, owned by the Uatied ot Over the sides pipes ure ic and thus tho giunt reservoirs a “maghoie’’ on these mammoth re. oleaginous fluid is poupea from on youder mountain from we great Gowimg weile in tue valleys, and sent away again througu the pipes across the ills to Salamanca— eighteen wiles—or to Curroiton, eleven miles, to the shipping points, | mounted several of the rade ‘Woouen stairways wiih led up to the company tanks and my guide hited iron trap doors so I could Jook 1hto the receivers, Oi Was pouriog into them froin three or four four-dinch pipes, but oll was also being pipod out of thom fer as 1 was io formed, and it was a simply mal tue pipe ine book keepers to tai ‘ate account of both recelp aod bbipment In Cy e wooden measure on which 18 plainly mark inches——the wimost capactty of the tank, euployed by the company ab receiving and shipping points are enabled by their experience to avoid efrors in receipts or shipmente, A VINDICATION, Now as to the charge of tanks not being full, made by producers against the United lines. 1 made a bold request of the Gireotors of the pipe Ii ir of 106 mpany’s business at Bradiord, to iet me look be without a August and September, showing barrels of oil in pipes, to whom it belonged, When enipped, numbers nuiober of tanks at Tarport—selocted at ragdum: that I could give the Hwan the tn Was that in every inetance | | the United line people bo he. tbe res und the statement ui In giving bot 8 f this oli question I ihink it no mure than jus: tieo record (he Vindication of the Uaied jine Irom at Feast this ob “> Oven Frephuted by the pros ducers, of Fefasing to receive ofl when they had batts flied tanks, . Tbe engine house wt Tarport contains the tamous waked Gud Continued Unt the produoyrs’ movement nt thous Worthington pump, Whicn pumps about NEW YORK HERALD, MOND XciLemMeLt your CorrespIndent Was told that | of tanks, of what capacity, how lui, &o. found, aecording to the cuimpany’s gw aud fe cutded on their books, that tunks of capacity of 25,000 | barrels generally were filled with [rom 23, 600 bo 24,600 Varrels, ana it Wus 10 Lest the Correctness of the ive books that | Look the trouble to climb to tue top of & sand barrels of oil every twenty-four hours, and the Cameron pump—made in New York city—whbich has @ capacity of about five thousand barrels, Mr. Mur- hy, the master of repuirsand machinery, very cour- usly explained the meting of the great engines bow they could be made to exhaust a tank or One word more before I leave Bradford. The town, in the very coutre of the porthern oil felds, bas been ine yin this woudertul ht out of the wilderness. It is mated that the radiord field alone produces over twenty thousand barrels of oll per day, and still the dritiis kept at work; old rigs, engines and machinery are being brought up from the lower country and pluced upon the leasehoids in these valleys, and oil sinks in price lower anu lower, tho proaucers cry bard times, and yet it 18 just as cortuin 4s the night follows aay, if men continue to drill new wells oi! will sink toa price that will bankrupt bait the proaucers, and the power will be left in the hands of the Stanaard or some ether company with large capi- tal, whe will Uuaily own the woils and the production of this rich section, ° THOSE UNFAIR DISCRIMINATIONS—MR. HENEY ©. OHLEN ANSWERS SOME OF THE STATE MENIS OF THE UNITED PIPE LINES. Naw. Yorx, Sept, 12, 1878. To THe Epitor ov THE HeRALD:— Im reviowing the report of your special correspond- ent at Oi! City relating to ofl mutters as published in your journal of tne 9h inst S notice tbat dir. J. J. Vaudergrit, the president, of the United Pipe Lines, states that bis company holds @positiun similar to that of a banker with depositors, and that on demand «must give shippers their oil, 1 would liketo ask him why, in view of this, the United Pipe Lines refused to cortity 1o Mr, Brundred, the agent of the Green Line (Pennsylvania Railroad), that 1 bad of] im weir tanks in the river district, wuen Lneld the producer's receipt from the line lor the sa:ne, and thus preveut- ivg me from obtaining oars to i to market. Again, he says that they bad only two men woo ob- Jected to the process of being forced to take their oil at Vlean—viz., H. CU. Obien, of New York, and Malcolm Lioya, of Philadelphia, l would ask did not the exporting house of Fen- nuille, Chaullon & Despeaux, torough their agent, Mr. Granam, vigorously protest against being fo:ced to go to Olean for oil they had bought tor wr shipment? Now, the names above mentioned comprise nearly ali thut is lefs of the refining interest outside of the Standard, My objection to being forced to Vieun for all my ofl 16 that of all the outmide refuing in bes in New York; Mr. Lloyd's, that of ull the outside in- terest in Philadeipuia; tout of Fennaille, Chatillon & Despeaux, thut vf, 1 sink, two-tbirus o: ail Lue re- Hulug luterest tn France. ‘bts latter house exports noariy all the crude oil ,uat goes to France, no retiued oil going there on account of a protective tarill Lavor- ing nome msuulaciure. All tbo other smippers berg Siuodard, of course they Would muke no objec- tion, as the exciuston of Outside shippers trom the river would throw the whole of 4 large prouuetion of superior grade of o:l whicn eded in the munutacture oO: specialties, such us er white,” *uigh Lest,”’ &c., unto tbe vellueries of Clevelund, Pittsvurg, Ou Cary and Titusville, all of which are eontrolled by the Sisadurd. When it iw remembered Laat tugse speoia/ties yield a larger pro- porwonate profit than waat 18 called “regular it” it 18 easy 10 sev What Lhe eflect of the compiete cuntrol of the river off Would Dave in all interests outside of the Standard, One word ubout the “Warning Oircular.”” When tho . Monopoly Was organized its wvowed object was io Cousolidate the businvss under ous gowerul mauage- inent as to pipe lives and storage, apd, tu 4 Word, Lo take care of the wh productiva = in tue interest of the producer, the buyer aud the shipper, The circular was an open ackno' iginent: ot the failure ot (his part of the scheme and a call upon the producer to step to and help the United to carry out what they bad already agroed to do themselves, but were ubadle to accowplish, ibis failure ob the part of the “United”? bas led to the building of a number of smuil pipe jines, which are being extended graduaily throughout the ensire oil region. ‘Toe HERALD {6 quite right In saying that the United ould vuilu tunke Ww Blore tue surplus, as 1 was plied if nov express unverstugding When thecon- solidation of the pipe systeia was eflvoied, that they would take cire ui the whole product. ‘This ought to be a sufllcient answer also to Mr. O'Duy’s expianativa of tue viference between “ship- ment” oil and certificates, Cortainly shipment by ac- posit of certitiouws mukes «6 mau room in the tanks ag “immediate shipment” does. Lt is ‘the ina. cilmy of wbe proaucer tv get ‘bis @il Tun so tuut he Ca0 yet ceriiticate (whicu, by the way, ere only made for 1,000 barreis each) tbat cuuses Bim to be obliged to uccopt less than certificate price, and this difference in the Bradford district was ut oue time over thirty cents per barrel, The stavoment of dir, Campvell, treasurer, as to the cupucity of tne Unied im the aifferent districts shows conclusively. tums with proper taukuge no oll need Waste, as the production of the dutricts named by him never equalled days since 1 was reliably tuousand barrels uailyan the Braaford district alone was allowed to fuu on tue ground. The United Pipe Lines, as | underetaud st, are Common carriers under the jaws of the State of Penusylvaum, They are ulso a slurage company, and bound 10 deliver goods in their charge to the order ot the owner without limuation or furiber control as to lime and destinatiun desired by the own Whey are bound to certily to t 1 gods will they cunnot force any suipper or buyer to tu: bhem av article diflerent irom whet he depusits or Umited has not done, or has not attempte things, then it has beon very mach u Topresented. uv couneviion or woderstunding (it any eXisis) between the United Pipe Lines, tne Sian. vard Oil Company, and (he transportation Hoes is a question 1 do put touch upon here, but may have Gocasion Lo do vo later. in conciusion, ui! that the outside interest (so called) ask 16 4 lair fleld and no fever; but we do ask And iwalst bout all uolair discrimimativns ageiust us shall cease, sespectiuliy yours, H.C, OLIN KILLED BY A SERPENT. TSURIBLE ENCOUNTER WITH A DEADLY BLOW- ING VIPER IN A DARK ROOM. [From the Altoona (Pa.) irivune, Sept. 12.) A terrtule calamliy be! Doovor Paulbamus and bis lovely and accempiisbed daughter Kicauor, Tuesday evening, im Wilitumsburg, Pa. It seoms that acouple of weeks ago two tramps captured a pair of enormous reptiles, which the Doctor pronounced to be of that deadiy species known us “blow. jag vipor.’? Tye Docwor, having a desire to contribute someotming that would commend itself [rom this dis- trict, purelused the reptiles, intending to forward them to the Zoolvgical Gardeus in Philudel- phia, Biding their transportaion the snakes were placed in a large glass jar, the top being careiully secured by # covering of wire gauze, The jar was then placed vo an elevated bracket in a remote corner of the dvetor’s office, Lust evening the Doctor and bis duugicer were returving trom a visit to the Couutry, anu the Doctor having occasion to make op a prescription wey botn entered fis office, the Doctor ligtting a lamp. Agu now comes the lerribie denouement. A lorge owl swept ia torough the transom aveve the door, and few with the spved Of an arrow ayainet tbe lang, KOOUKING, It ovor aud scaltoriug the cil ud vroken ,.jass in every direction. the bird seemed trantic, dying and dasi- 40D, While & geverai Crasy of was beard on every side. or hud ht anothor “maten, bur just in time to receive his duugnter, wh sprang with « wild cry to his arms; m tue aark be gutuered bis during tn 18 arms, and ta A momout realized she situation. The owl bed dislodged the jar from the Uracket, and the Vipers were ab lunge, speedily ne groped his Way, culling loudly for help, whieh, the hour being late, was siow to putin an ap- pearance, They seemed ciow, out seareely five minutes elapsed anuil full a dozen ladesand brave men were on the spot No living mana can indite the horrors of tue Next few minuies. Mise Nieanor, who bad @ Binece Sho spraug to her father’s arms, Was now vein cated for by Lue lad whem one simultaneous sbriek almost froze biood aud alll it ‘Thomas ering repule by ihe Ie had bitten the lady midway veiween the ankle and toe kee, She was Dow Curried immodimtely to ber home, where every known antidote for potson was administered by her frantic lather, but ull to no avail, Sho died at baif-past six o'clock this morning. Altor taking the poor unturtunate young lady home one Of the mon, Knowing there had been iw od son despatch: amination showed 1/8 two large jangs missing. he con) the been vitten, hasty jon resulted in fading the fa leatoers of the Doctor's boo being struck swollen to enormous dimensions, While her com- piorton is in harmony with the spo oral coluring of the snake. larger of e8 measured (our and @ hall feet, the emailer four leet, They are pronounced by our people tho largest of the gpecier, 1t was the shorter one e young Imty. RIFFLARD COMMITTED, Joseph Kiflard was brought w the Jefleeson Markot Poijee Court yesterday by Detective Schmittburger. Sebastian Reak, of No. 1,365 Broadway, accused him there of having offered hima cheek for $80 on the | Merevaate’ Bank io payment tor articies ot wi shed him, Philip &. Boujamio, receiving teller of ue bank, said that Kiillard & Son bad no account at tbat institution. The prisoi thu relative to the chai He 1 tw occupation, Ther wust him from the city Whom be bas ho Was held in $1,000 ana committe faait of ber. In ois cell t wile in whieh ineutontally anced would reach ber be would Have comitted suiciu The jailors, however, have takeu proper precaunous to provent any attempt of that nature, WARD’S ISLAND’S MYSTERY. AN EFFORT TO FATHOM THE CHAPMAN CASE— THE ASSISTANCE WHICH COMMISSIONER BAILEY GAVE. On the 10th of August last an account appeared in the Hseracp setting forth charges alleging inhuman treatment toward Robert W. Chapman, one of the 1! mates.of the City Asylum for the Insane, on Ward's Islond, and whe has.since died. These charges were made by his two sons-in-law. During the past woek, the charge having been revived that the death of the patient was matply caused by a severe peating, ® HERALD representutive yesterday afierncon called at sbat insiituion aud saw ‘Dr. Washburn, assistant superintendeat, in charge during the absence of Dr. MoDonnell, The writer having stated the object of nis visit, Dr. Washburn oxpressed regret that he could not furnisn the de, sired gimtelligence, adding that all information could be obtained from er through sue Commissioners only. Said the Doctor:—‘There 18 a standing order airect- tng us, whenever appliedto by members of the press for information ina case Ike this, to reior them to the Commissioners.’ Dr. Washbura concluded by saying that if the writer would obtain she written consent of any of the Commissioners he would cheerfully turniso all the Information in bia power, The HERALD reporter then called on Commissioner Bailey, at bis residence in East Twenty-eighth street, when that gentiemau promptly penned s uote au- thorizing Dr, Washburn to impart the intelligence sought, Tho reporter asked the Commissiouer M be remembered the Chapman case. He replica, ‘I do not recollect the particulars in regurd to it. 1 know tbe report et Dr. bourn, who was ip charee of the asylum during the absence of Dr, MeDonnetl, was tne time, The Board w which at pt sive, bere was pot 1 rememos that couid amply censure of tuv offic Ut cou whore there are 80 many relativ a friends of patients, we expect occasionally w beer complaints 6! barsb or Uokiad treatmeut when no such thing bas happened, wud we accordingly make allowances on that account when ther 1OOFFOC Feports printed OF exaggerated rumors set afloat, ibe Commissioners bave the Luliest col @ in the Superimtendent aud ‘Assistant Superimienuent of the City Asylum,” Comm:stivner Bailey thon Banded the reporter a note 10 Warden O'Rourke, of Behevue Hospit questing that oflicial to communicate by tebe with the asylum on Ward? isiaud. He ward :—* here asking Dr. McPooneH, ve permmtendent, toreugh Mr, O’Reerke, to tutuish you over the wires, with uit the Im/ormatiun you muy require.” Heariug the name of Dr. mcBonacll meniioued the writer hastened to tnlorm Commissioner Baitey that ibe Diedical Superimtencent was avsent from the asylum, bis assistant, Dr, Washburn, being in Charge, and that wnuer tboee circumstances the desired imtelligerce might not be obtaine. To this the Commismioner replied, saying tnat when writing the note ue was not aware tuat Di, McDonell was absent from tne institution aliuded to, but adaed, “it will not make the slightest alfference; toll Mr O'Rourke woen 1 wrowe tho pote 1 was under the impression that Dr, McDonnell was iv charge ol, the xsylum, and that 1 wish Dr, Washburn to furnish you ali the information 1n his power.” ‘The reporter proceeded witnout delay to Bellevue Luspital, delivered the note of the Com- missioner und wiso bts verbal message to Wardeo O'Rourke, who at ouce communicated by telegraph with Dr. Wasbbarn. ‘The tatter gentieman, how. ever, tn order to ussure himself thut he had the au- thority o1 the Commissioner betors iurmistiog the Gesired information, asked Warden O’Ko: gtaph bim # copy of Commissioner Baiey tions, as vet (orth in the note. This was forwarded, and after a timo Dr. Wasuburo telegraphed buck tuat inuemuch as the Commissioner hat mentioned Dr, McDogoell’s name in toe note he (Dr. Washburn) cvuld not take the responsibility upon bimsell of viv- lauing # standing order of tne Commissioners, addicg that wheu Commmeioner Bailoy wrote the note Le must bave kxown thut Dr. sioDonnell was absent irom the asy ium, KUFFIANLY ASSA ULT. At an carly bour op Saturday evening @ young woman, about twenty-two years of age, residing in Hoboken, wus brought to Police Headquarters, Jersey City, by ox-Aldermaa Thomas Galuey suffering trom two severe cuts 1p the face, which sbe suid had been joflicted by a man who had stopped ber in Pacific avenue. She iola Chief Nathan that ‘while waik- tng through Pacific avenue, near tuo Canal bridge, a man passed her and some remark. She aid pot answer, sad be caught hold of her arm, She screamed, und he struck ber in the face, throwing ber to the ground, Ex-aiderman Gafoey, who was ariving home, heart ber scream and drove in the direction 01 tho bridge, and ber us- @ailant bearing bis approach fied. Tho blow had Kuocked ont iwo of the young woman’s teeth aod in fulling she cut her eye und her face, Spe descriped her assasiant as @ tall young meu dressed tu durk Clothes und straw hat. She was taken to ber home in Hob6ken 1n a coach provided by the Chie of Police. The police and Gafney retuse to divulge her namo or place of re: nce, though they suy she te the daugh- ter of a prominent resident of Hoboken. ALLEGED OLUBBING. John Sweeny, eighteen yours old, of No. 168 Humil- ton avenue, Brooklyn, while intoxicated Saturday night declared that he wus going to visit an Italian ance house in Carroll street. His tamuy could not restrain bim, und he Fusned out into the street, tol- lowed by bis elder brother, Tuomas, tn Hicks street Officer John J. Murtha, of tue Third precinct, stopped John, When bts brother came up he suid to the officer:—“Thava all right; 1 want totuke him home,” at (ue same time iaying his hand on Jola’surm, ‘The officer at once struck Thomas a heavy blow on tho head, causing a severe veal, wound. mab was taken home by his [riends ecious condition, Jotin Sweeney was of bis mother by the officer, An officer of u enth precinct tearne. of the eider Sweowey’s in- juries and summoned un amouiauce, 19 which he was removed te the Loug Isiatia College Hospial, He hud lost considerable blood aud was in a danger- The blood floweu freely, and the wound in an uncon- ous condition, Yesterday, however, he was mach improved, Captain Kiley, of the Kluventh preeimet, made aa {ovesugation, and was conviaced that Sweeney Was olubued by Murtha, although Murine denied 14 andsaid that Sweeney’s injuries wero caused by w sloae thrown by some one in the crowd, SHOT 1N CAR A HOKSE Benjamin hendrickgon, driver of an Atlantic avenue horse car, in Brookiyn, was wounded iv the right cheek yesterday afternoon by the disebarge ol a shot. gun in front of No, 270 Atlantic avenue, ns the car was pasaing on {ts Way i Souta ferry Some grains ot shot iound lodginent bebind the ear and in the scalp of Jenn Bron , of No. 77 Vark piace, a passenger, Vne iyared were removed to the Long Islxud Guilege Hospital. Jotun Herman, u boy of eignteen, by wboM (he BuOt wus tired, Wus arresied last night, The shooting of the men, he says, Was purely acgle dental. He sa poor marksman and was tiring at ruts on the siuewalk, STRUCK BY A BULLET. Charles Brannigan entered Michael Helinstaedter’s saloon, in Malverry stroet, Nowark, lust eveniag and called jor Inger. Reiusing to pay for it Holinstaedter ejected Dim, On reaching the aidewaik he drew a Voiver snd firel atthe proprictor, he bail passing him Knocked « roll of false hair irom the oead of Mra, fieitusiaedter, the powder singoing ber scalp, And narrowly missing anocner occupant of tue place. Brannigan fed an@ bad not been arrested at a late hour. Mr. Louis Willing, of 166: street, Morrisania, tit home on Saturday night, in company with bis wite, to do some marketing Theirtwo chtlcren, Eddie, nine yoars old, and Vera, a littic girl of three, remained behind, Shorty after the parents’ departure a loud knocking was hoard at the front door, Eddie opened it and toree rougn-looking menentered. One of them carried a large club, id seized Edaie by the hair, The other two etationed themecivos at tue door and parlor window, The boy at ouce began to ory, whereapon his oapt sercek bits Q nouvy blow with the club on the right arm, Inis Onused Lhe litte girl te ory Out in terror, and Bue was a nev siap on the face, The ry 6 Lop of thi oer, TT themevives now beoam they found the children lying on the floor aud moan- jug piteously, Eudie’s atm was (ou nd to be black end biue, wale Vera’s fade was fearfully swollen, Atter hearing their story the futher went me trace of she Villains. A block or two off tney encountered the ringieaver, whom Eudie at once recognized. Mr. Willing drow a olver and commanded a bait, bat Kudie’s assailant bled bis fist and almod a biow at the Willing dodged 14, anu then, with th k tho mun between the oyes. Hing heavily to the ground, and a desperuro eu followed, Forvunaely two neighbors of Mr. Wilung (Alf. Mills and Mr. Hofman) Lurued tue corner inty the ueserted thoroughfare aud Cawe to his assistance. The maa was soon subdued and the three citizens eseorted him to the Morrisania police station. Yesterday morning the prisoner was takon before Jadge Wheeler in toe Hari Police Vourt. He ¢ bis name 4s Charles Quachkualler, without a ho at Oe presented @ leariul Aspect, thaw to Mr. Wiiling’s fevoiver. Quacikualler is Known vo tue as an old & tremp. He wept when Judge Wit * told bim that ne would have to rpeud ihe } panion next three montns on Biagkwoll/s islaud His com. 0 UNkDOWi., AY, SEPTEMBER 16, 1878—TRIPLE. SHEET. THE INDIAN PROBLEM. Cause of the Troubles and a Plan to Remedy Them. INTERVIEW WITH GENERAL BRISBIN, Detailed Statement of the Tribes and Their Numbers. HOW TO PREVENT OUTBREAKS. Immense Areas of Land To Be Opened Up for Settlement. Bozeman, M. T., Sept. 4, 1878. The recent outbreak amoug the Bannocks and tne chronic state of unrest umong @ large portion of the Indians throughout the Western Territories, causing immense yeurly expenditure of blood and treasure, seem at last to have aroused a spirit of inquiry amoug the people as to the causes of these troubles. No one 4s better capable of giving.» correst idea of them than the army officers who have served long on the fron- tier, and who, from their intercourse with the rest- Jess savoges, Lave a tuil appreciation of their tvelings and motives. Prominent amoug these 1s General Brisbin, at present commanding at Fort Ellis, a man of extended and varied oxperience, and, in tue absence 1 General Gibbon, undoubtedly the best autbority on Indian matters west of the Yellowstone. To satisty the spirit of inquiry above referred to a Hera corre- aponaent recently calied on the Genoral and solicited an expression of his views on the problem which bas boen found so difficult of solution. Alter expressing Dig readiness to turoish any information tn bis power the following conversation ensaed:— “What is the prospect in Indian affcirs, Genera! ??? **Avont as bad as can be; still, | apprehend no gen- eral war.” “Upon what do you base your opinion 7” “Well, you see, the Indians do not make war unio: pressed, and the army 18 too weak upon the frontier to move offensively. ”* “Then you think the whites cause these wars, I conclude,” SPROIMEN KNCROACHMENT. “Undoubtedly. You, asa resident here since 1870, must aduis it, You remomber my first operaion bere after my arrival in 1876. I allude te the rescue of the citizen garrison at Fort Pense, at the month of the Big Horn. Some forty whites hai left Bozeman 4 located themseives mm thut heart of Sitting Buli’s coupiry, and without any authority in tbe world nad built a fort there. The Sioux at- tacked it and were on the point of capturing it when the bestoged men appealed (o me for aid. Sitting Bull had 1,500 warriors and we bad only 400 men, but we bavtened to relieve tho set ment, He could bave beaten us, but, doubtiess think. ing it best to permit the removal of the cause of the trouble, pe drew of, only too giad to see the departure of the iuteuders, I had bardiy again reached Fort Elis when I was notified of the approach of Goueral Gibbon with seven companies of infantry from one direction apd of Goueral Terry with Custer and bis regiment from upother, Wo all returned to Situng Bull's country, and alter chasing bim about a long whue the Cuser fivht evcarred.” CAUSE OF CUSTKE’S DEFEAT. “What do you consider the immeusate cause of Cus- ter’s deteat?” “be usual cause; too many Indians and too few sroups.”” “Was Guster blamabie?”? “No.” “Was Reno?” ‘1 don’s Kuow mor do care to disouss tus! matter. I think I would have remained in Reno’s first position tm the timber; but I migut have lost my entire com- mand, General Crook says Reno only sayed mimselt by going to the nilis, The Juctans fought splendidly, as qpual. Reno wounted bis men to fight, und there be made bis mistake If he nade onoatell, Lf you cun’t whip au Indian on foot you can’t do it mounted. He is the best rider ip toe world, and our eavairy stand no show tm a mounted figal, anless in a direct charge.” WHAT TO DO WITH THE. “What poole you dv with our lodiaus?”” “Al irik now located portn of a Mav of the Union and Coutral Pacific rasiroads eboula settled perme neutly beyond we Missouri agd Colambia rivers, and those now south of such u line should ve go settied 1a toe Andiau ferriwry.” “Why got put them all in that Lerritory ?’? “bbe Kocky Mouuiaiu Judians could pot live there; the ciimaute ts tuo wot lor them,” “What is your pian regaruiog these Northern tives f”” “Put them on reservations north of the Missourl and Coiumbi rivérs, Creating a permane.t Ludi territory 01 the utire Tegiou Deiween the Missourt ud tue British possessions aud longiiude 104 4 124 deg, west.” “What is the extent of that region ?”” “Large enough tor all the Weetern uriber. It shouia be cat Up mito reserves runving from the Missvuri buck Lo tue British possessions, ibe agentes being lovaced along the Misseuri,”? A GaMs K¥GION. “WIM that country be seuiied sven by the whites 7”? “No. du any eveut te wiporove tuo Just part of cur couuiry sought for sectiement. Itis the vest game u we have left. ‘Tue lest vuftulo,on American wil be kided north of the Missvari and in ine 4018 ab present iiteraily ites shoaid be permined Indians would be glad to ~ bands suowd be per- i belt oi country mentioned biuck with buifale. No tovecuny it Most of th remove vhere, and Uuwil Suaded OF Bired 40 Lotlow, ‘THR TRIMS AND THEI NUMBERS, “What trives nuw roan beiween tue Pecific roads and the Missourt, and What are their numpers Y”” ing a map OF he Feservadous, the General ‘Hero Wo have them and can soon count ’ weait of this Count is Contained in the foilow- ing (able, showiK the trives of American Ludians hiving worth of a ime of the Usiou und Contral Pacitic rasiroads, ®Ho Should be removed beyoud the Ali sourt vod Columbia rivers, and estwblisi beiw tne United States, British possessions und the 104.n anu 124b degrees Of iongitude wost:— Nebraska, Name of Tribe, Males, Females, Totals, Ompune....+ + 510 oT 1,027 Sagiov 510Ux « 376 417 795 Winnebagoes . 790 1,500 Dakota Two Kettle Sioux, Sups arc Sioux, Mibneconjoux Sioux apd siackicot S10ux — Lower Yauetonals, os sisseton SloNX. Wabpeton s10ux 660 s10ux Bioux. 185 $25 Mundas Gros Veuires Se oe “8 Lower Brule Sioux « 500 1,000 Poucas. ane seceee OSL wo joux, Nurthern Uney- 4,000 6,000 1,187 2,318 Siaweton and Wahpeton sivu: 920 1,745 Upper Yanatonais Sivux, Lower Yanktonais Sioux, Unepapa S1oux and Binckteet Sioux, 1,157 1,158 2,815 yi 1,043 1,982 lows. and FOxes,.....0.. 160 18 ei Wisconsin, x ba ge Menomonees... 8T 1,622 Onetuas. oso 1,887 Stookbria, oy 12 359 br ued 792 572 1,048 368 865 seeesee wah 404 Grand Portage Culpyewas, 129 262 Bowe Forte oe 380 oe ua Winnevagoo 410 4s 82! Potvowatomies Pr. 8h 99 180 Minnesoa, ) 1,610 1,122 1,278 x 790 Rea hippe «+ 508 678 1,178 Missisaipp! Uhippowas, ) 1,768 Pombiua..... . C1042 1,463 453, Ower fatl Chippewas, 455 Sagamore, Swan Creek, Biack iverand Lake Superior Unip- pewas, Otrawas and Powto- 6,200 10,260 1,100 1,800 1,080 2.000 620 -3,000 a0 Beh 456 308 Yaveronats, Uncpapa, Brul Tetons aud Gros Venires....3,100 3,400 6,500 Fort Hall B: ks 2 bi ‘ort Hal jJannoc! ab Sho m8 1,612 M0 390 Lemnt Banvoeks. 100 190 Lembi Shoshoaes. 230 450 Lewistown Nez P 1,480 2,500 5 762 1,100 682 500 650 33d 685 Azz 242 195 345 250 500 Not known, 165 315 280 §33 Muckleshoot. 69 130 Puyallups ot 27h 525 Nesqualies, 100 105 205 squaxins. 20 30 50 Shenalis. . 1g 123 240 Cuoaiwaters, 28 32 69 Grape Harbors. xo 89 10 Cowltzes 10 15 25 60 62 123 50 ot lit 32 48 80 260 550 75 900 600 550 700 600 Jukurnus, Palouses, Pisquoses, Wenassnepums, Kliktute, Klin- aits, Kow wussay ees, Slay Was, nyike, Ochechoies, Kahuualt- pans and senpontty seers 2,500 4,100 Hoppas, Redwoous, Siabs an : 26h 296880 1s 307 197 3 a: ts - 148 Litsie Lak 166 Pyramid Indians... 760 1,500 Grand Totals. o00e48,086 48,543 92,729 Maics and females are given as fur as known, Resuming, 1 remarked that many of tho tribal or band names were new to me. “rhat 18 not strange,” ihe General replied. “How many ever heard of the Modocs until the Modoc war made them famous? Yet that Insigoiticant band de- fied half our Wesiorn army an ontire year.” THE LAND TO BR GAINED. “How much land would be given ap to settlement by the removal of the trives from their present ro- serves to the new territory you suggest?” “About 100,000,000 of acres. ’? ‘The toliowing tavle shows the land gaived and which could be opened for setilement by whites should the noribero tribes be removed beyond the Missouri and Columbia Rivers:— Nebraska. Acres in Name of Tribe. Reservation. Omabas. .. . + 148,225 Santee Sioux. + 118,07¢ Winnebagoes.... - 109,844 Dakota, ‘wo Kettior, Sans Arcs and Minneconjoux. 33,000,000 La \ 61,600 Arickurees, Lower Brut Poncas... Ogalialas, Nort paces... -Not knowa Lower Brules «Not known Uvper Yaucktonais, Not known Bacs and Foxes, ag Mepomonees, Oueidas and Stockbridges., 308,740 CHIPPEWA, ..02eerereee 536,758 Pillagors end others. Rea Lake Chippew Aississippis and others .... 796,072 Michigan, Coippowas. .. seeaeseee 66,332 Wyoming. Shoshones., + 1,520,000 Crows and River Crows, 6,472,000 neads and otbers..... «26,401,000 Assiniboins and others, -Not knowo Fort Hall, Bapnooks and others + 1,882,400 Lemh1, Bannocks aad overs. 64,000 Nez PGrcés,....0.++ «746,651 Molels and others. . 61,440 Kiamachs and others 1,056,000 J) U.os and Saakes, 1,778,660 Royno Rivers and ot! 225,000. Walla Waila and othe! 288,800 Umatiilas wad others, . 464,000 Washington. Spokanee and others. , £ 2,800,000 Muckleshoois and othors.... 84,000 Quinailets und others, «224,000 5. Klallams and others, . 4,957 Snovomishes and others, . Yakamas and otuere, , Hoopas and others. Potter Valleys and otne Nev Pyramid Lake ludians.. ae Total acres. ,,. se eeeee “Are there any, Indians veyween the Missouri and she Britten Moe? 1 asked, ha many. Fort Peck is beyond the river, aud 7,600 Sioux are tuere loc: ‘Yoeu there isthe Biackfoos agency on the Uluriag River, pro- Indians avd mauy Gros Ventres, viding ter 7,26 ns ‘ort Colville on S mave un Lodjau territory, and toat agency alone has %,i17 ludians, Toen ‘the fullalips, Swinmashes, Chvadishes aod many otber trives live tuere. Ail the bands of Southern Washington Territory snoula be removed buck adjacent to the Dominion line THE PROPOSED INDIAN TERRITO! “My idea a6 thar gested Indian shouid include the country Degiuning at longitude lod boundary, ron souk the Yeliowstove; thence west along the Missouri to Hurt Beuton, thence over the mountaius to tue headwaters of the Columbia, thence along that streain to the south line of ine Civile mgency, Luence west to the Pacitic, thence nerto to the Dumiaron line, and territory on to the mouth ot the thence east along that lige to t) lace of be; Ox. dn tum iy ono hundred thoasand savages could be so removed from Nebraska, Dakota, dit ola, Miotig Montana, Washington, 4 Oregon ia, und these Stat ia Territories be rid of an evermenacing post fore’ “bub you would (aus put hostile and friendly sav- ages tugeiher, Would not the result be bad—that 18, # Combination against the government ?'? Jt i# undemabie that the postiles are capable of doing much mischiet and espectally if combined for war, bata combination is impossibie; they bate each worse thun they hate the whites. A stranger to iT tribal prejudices caunot comoeive tue intensity is feeung. United, they could roll beck the set~ to Nevraska. Butit cua nevor be, THR AGRNCIRS, “As to the iriendiy Inwans themselves they are generally ciesatisied with their sgencies, and wiih good reason. Worse locations could hardly bave been ctod. Generally fur trom the buffulo heru, to & it extwut anilt for Block or agricul an ied for the new territory is almost vacant, ily wi and its could not reasonably objected to by thi people of any part of ine country. It uring, well adapted to the resiaence of the Rocky yantare Indians, avd a section which would prove satistac- wry to them, woy not eet it ase forthem? fo escnpe from the British possessions they must enter this vory piece of country; it y do we are ordered to attack them, and come ‘th at, sooner or Inter, toret u Crank ol government msy elec ‘ny should we im: upon tue soupy ia; the worthless and deserted region lying between Missourt ani Hae? To do 80 woul oruel, unwi t THY NUPFALO. “The enormoas herds of butfaio south of the Domtn- jon ling range over that region. [tis Certain the Indian must go there, and we bave roason to thing that even Sit Basl would gladiy accept a reserve upon it in case 1 don iteve he would ever again cross ourl. And thie is true, also, of tue refugees irom Spotted Tull, Red Cloud, go, hit also has economy to recomm ing Aga barrier to hositie dem: new reserve, would secure such rod: ° 8 mixed with the hoatiles, A® an oxampic, when Sitting Bull Inteiy called the various bands and tribes togethor and attempted to combine them ogainst us Gros Ventres reused, and #0 powertally that the rously failed. It nimoat unde: iY r atly located among them. And o host ities as many Lodians Would join the troops as Would combine With the ourbreaka rhe advantage to We army Would also be great, Now it ts soa then it would bo concentrated; vow 1 would then be effective and it@ cost of mm and operation be astonishingly reduced,” “Have you ever submitwed (nese views to or the uepar tan a ad i asked, ¥, ‘Unly wo Gel Sherman. We are not permitted, you know, toaddrose Conaress,’’ :