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WASHINGTON. Prospects of Mr. Bland’s Silver Bill in the Senate. — FACTS LIKELY TO BE DEVELOPED. The Committee of the Whole on.the Army Bill. PATRIOTISH, DEMAGOGY AND — BUNCOMBE, The Proper Uses of the Army Considered. 4 BID FOR THE WORKINGMEN ROM OUR SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT, Wasmuxorow, Nov. 8, 1877. BLAWD'S SILVER BILL IN THE SENATE—YACTS LIKELY TO RE DEVELOPED IN THE DEBATE. ‘Thesilver mon boast that they can carry their bill through the Senate, and protess that not more than eighteon Senators.can be found to vote against it, but they are mistaken. The Senate will not pass the bill ag it stands, because it will not vote to give to private porsons the profit of coining ninety-three cents’ worth ofstlver into @ dollar. It is impossible to get a ma- jarity of the Senate to vote for this job, They will probably vote to remonetizo silver, but thoy will amend the House bill in such manner that the govern- ment alone will be allowed to coin silvor dollars, m order that the Treasury sbail gain the profit on this coinage. This will disappoint the speca- lators'in silver, bat it will get the votes of most ot the siver men who are honeetly in favor of remonetiza- tion but opposed to Jobbing. . When the Silver bill comes to be debated tn the Sen- ate tho Representatives who voted for it so rasbly the other day will get somo interesting Information which ‘will make some of them ashamed of their vote. It will be shewn, for instance, to the people who aro crying out for ‘the dollar of our fathcrs’’ thas the United States mints bave coined since their first establishment to the present time, in ali, only eight mailiions of stivor dollars. They will learn further that the mints can coin at the utmost only about twenty muilions of silver dollars in a year, so that only an extremely rash man would insist on such a measure as Bland’s when temporary measure, such as euthorizing the substitution by the government of silver dollars for the one and two dollar legal tenders, ‘would requiretwo or three years tocarry it into full effect, by which time, If the extrome silver men are to be credited, silver will bo at par, and there will be no need to force it asa legal tonder, .One thing appears Bow to ve certain—the Senato will not vote to let any owner of silver bullion make a speculation at tho ex- pense of the people of the United Statos, Ifstiver dollars are to be coined the profite will be put into the Treasury, MR, WELSH'S CONFIRMATION—THE NEW YORK APPOINTMENTS. Mr. Welsh will be confirmed, probably, to-morrow, and without opposition. It is expected that the New ‘York Custom House appointments will cause strife in the Senate. Theapti-Hayes mon say that Mr. Roose- veltand Mr, Prince shall not be confirmed, Of Mr, Merrie they do not speak in such positive terms. Mr. Conkling bad not returned to-day, consequently no meeting of his commitiee, which has these nomina- tions in charge, has yet been held. TEE SECAETARY OF THE TREASURY AND THE FINANCIAL POLICY OF THE ADMINISTRATION, ‘The manner in whieh the sitver and ant!-resumption gmen are trying to hamper the financial policy of the. adminztration an@ prevent resumption has mado some friends of Secretary Sherman desire that he wball use the privilege whieh the law specially con- fers upon the Seoretary of the Treasury to ap- pear in persom before either House and give it information. Section 248 of the Rovised Statates provides that the Secretary of the Treasury ‘‘sball make, report and give information to either branch of the Legislature, in person or in writ- ing, a8 may be required, respecting all matters which shall appertain to his oMce.”” No Secretary of tho Treasury has ever used his privilege of speech in either House, but the law permits this, and it is thought that Secretary Sherman may yet uso his privilege, It would, it is theught, have a good effect. THE CHAIRMANSHIP OF THE PACIFIC RAIL- ROsDS COMMITTEE, ‘The Speaker intends to name as chairman of the Pacitic Ratlroads Committee a gentioman holding the game opinions on subsidies as Mr. Potter, in case the Jatter should persist 1 refusal to serve, ——_+—___ FROM OUR REGULAR CORRESPONDENT, Wasuinaton, Nov. 8, 1877. DEMOCBATIO CAUCUS—NOMINATION OF A CHAP- LAIN—DISCUSSION ON THE OBNOXIOUS PRO- VISO CONCERNING THE USE OF TROOPS IN THE ARMY BILL. The democratic membors of the House held a caucus to-day immediately alter adjournmont for the purpose otolecting achaplain to filithe place of Rev, Mr. Poisal, who tend his resignation a tew days ago, That business was disposed of in a short timo by tho election ot Rev. Mr. Harrison, of Atlanta, Mr. House, of Tennessee, with the understanding that it ‘was to test tho senso of the caucus, offered a resolu- tion to the effect that the Army Appropriation bill should not ve hampered with an amendment westrigting the employment of federal troops fa Southern States: Mr. Mills, of Texas, moved to lay the resolutto# “Gn the table, which brought Mr. Black’ 7p, of Méntneky, to bis feet, with a resolution ‘160 @fSrodps to tlie ordinary service of \ 4 Jortifications aoa on the frontier. The \s semarks was much the samo as during the ee Army Appropriation bill in (pe House "4 was supported by Mr, Knott, of Ken- ‘* Vox, of New York. It was ovident tbat \ of Mr. House woald cause endless de- bate wd!) » tempt made to bring the matter ton vote, + *' tedaspeech from Mr. Ellis, of Lou- Ietan 4) syagh soldom heard jn debate, is known azonec eloqui speakers in the House, He appe '! | ‘he members not to cast reproach upon tneaami, ' l'on by adopting the proposed amend- ment, J- | 18 Was the best evidence he could pro- sent 4 te good will of the Presi. Gent i ‘ }» throttle the liberties of the j\imeriminate use of the army and, rec. } 04 alroady accomplished in the Soath- } ald Sot reflect credit upon the major- ) to adopt any amendment calculated }y administration. He appeatod to his ) Sanction it by their votes, and the at, amendment of Mr. Blackburn and the resolution of Mr, House was vy, ind edopte or, y Majority. Mr aos Mississippi, was also among those who s, ,% ‘he amondment. Mr. Blackburn 8 that he was tho party referred to he one who bad intended to offer “ 0 of the catire discussion was that While ty },5 \o,! °" © 600d deal of political feeling mani- fasted yy: of the proviso there was uekind) ,. ;), °° “6atnet President Hayos or bi muOIE Wii 0 GENER :)\)( )004N'S NOMINATION BEYORE THE sEexa | )° 'DICIARY COMMITTRE—FAVoRABLE REpo) |") TAR NOMINATION OF MR. JON wrrs,,,.; > 9" MINISTER TO RNOLAXD, THO Spi fudtctary Committee holds a mecting i for tie first time in ten days, when it is Ay | 2Mie 4 alles of the Bapreme Court will bo ecdere * 9 596% Peed tothe Benate for contrmatios, togetoer, provamy, with tue Domination of Mr. Jono Baxter to be Circuit Judgo of the Sixth Circuit. The delay bas not been from serious objection tothe nominee, but is owing to the ifiness in the famny of the Chairman, Judge Edmunds, and the absenco of several members of the committoe at 8: Mor- $on’s funeral, Both of tne Kentucky Senators, Messrs, McUreory and Beck, are in favor of the con- Srmation of Mr. Harlan, and no opposition is expected from any quarter. Io the executive session of the Senate to-day Sena- tor Wallace, of Pennsylvania, trom the Committee on Fereign Relations, reported favorably the nomination of Mr. Jobn Welsh, of Philadelphia, to be Minister to England, The motion for the Senate to proceed to the confirmation of Mr, Welsh was thereupon made by Senator Cameron, but undor the rules of the Senate objection was made, which defers action until tho next executive session of that boay, which will be had to-morrow. ‘The objection, it can be stated, was not made inany captious spirit, but merely to allowa faller attnedance of Senators, a number who hi been absent at Mr. Morton's obsoquies or away during the State elections, boing expected here to-morrow. ‘The impression is that Mr. Welsh will be confrined Without discussion. THE NAVAL INVESTIOATION—DUTIES OF THE COMMITIEE ON EXPENDITURES IN THE NAVY DEPARTMENT. The House Committee on Appropriations does not seem to have made much headway in its inquiry into ‘the mysterious disappearanco or misapplication of aval oMcers’ and seamen’s pay for tho months of April, May and June Jast, notwithstanding its threo hours’ pumping of Fourth Auditor Tabor, the officer of the Treasury who bas chargo of accounts of this charact It is known that this was jn part at least the object the cqmmittee had in view in summoning Judge Tador, yet he docs not admit having gone to the Dottom of the subject when before tho committees. While the examination was in progress General Sparks, of Illinois, a momber of the committee,’ moved that the proceedings of the commitice be kept under the seal of secrecy, and bis suggestion was adopted. The witness does not fool at liberty to speak fully upon the subject, as thg inquiry is still progressing. He says:— The House Committee on Naval Affairs are consult ing io regard to the aypropriatious for pay of oMforrs and meno in the navy for April, May and June, 1877, and concerning the deficiency in the Hospital Fund, miscellanceus claims—tnat is, of widows and orpha: Of deceased men and the pay of the Marino corps, Tuo commities scem avimated by a desire to grant tho roquest of the Seorotary of the Navy for an appropri- ation to meet all of theao deticiencies. Their principal object in consulting me was to get informativa in ro- gard to the amounts, and in order to make themselves ucquatoted with the details of thore amounts, how they accrued, &c. Mr. Robeson, the former Secre- tary, bes been ‘as you kpow, of paying out of ono appropriation tor certain purposes money appro- iated for agothor—the pay of tho officers ai yr Whar the committee will do abous this is a thio, the future, and it Js nota matter for me to discuss, At is quite possible that as tho committee is dupli- catiog upon the investigation instituted by Chairman Wilts, of the Commitsce on Expenditures tn the Navy Department, it will defer to the latter committeo tho burden of the inquiry hereafter, as suMcient informa tion bas been obtained fer the purposes of tho Defi- clency Appropriation bil! reported yesterday by Mr. Blount, of Georgia Mr. Wilts intends to e this feature in the closing hours of Secretary Robeson’s administration the subject of searching examination. Ho proposes to revive tho prerogatives ot nis committee, which havo been so long oxereised by the regular Naval Com- mittee, Upon this point he makes the following state- ment:— The duties of my committeo are specifically defined by rule 103 of the Houso of Ropresentutives, but they bave been neglected for a great many years The committee was created on the 20ih of March, pa 61x years before tho creation of the Commitice on Naval Affaits. It devolves upon this committes to exam: into the state of the expenditures of the Navy Department; to inquire whetber the expondi- tures are justiied by law; whether ihe claims satis- fled and discharged are supported by the proper vouchors; whether spoh ciaims are discharged and paid out of funds appropriated therefor, and what proofs are necessery to provide for she proper application of the public moneys as relating to this department, and to secure the government from aemands improper in their character and ex- travagant in thoir amount, Also a report from time to time whether any and what retrencuments can bo made in the expenditures for this branch of the pub- Ne service; whether any and what abuses may cxiat in the faluroto-enierce the payment of balances duo she government from public deianiters and otbers, and to report such facts and reoommendations as may be mecessary to add to tho economy of the aepartmons and entorce the aopeneiability of apticers, Under this authority the investiga- tion by Mr. Willis’ committeo is expected to produce important results Im bringing to light moro cloarly than has been done heretofore the peculiar business system that prevailed in the Navy Dopartmont under the management of Mr. Robeson, GENERAL WASHINGTON DESPATCHES, Wasuiscrox, Nov. 8, 1877. STANLEY MATTHEWS’ FINANCIAL BILL—MODI- FIED BESUMPTION, The financial bill Introduced by Senator Matthews to-day provides that whenever any United States legal tender notes are returned to the Treasury or shall bave been redeemed In coin under tho Specie esump- tion act of 1875 they may be reissued from time to tim the exigencies of the public eervice may re- quire of otherwiso, provided the amount at any time outstanding shall not exceed $350,000,000, and the Secretory of tho Treasury shall not make any reduction of the authorized currency by rotiring United States notes below that sum. Tho Dili also requires the Secretary, ior the purpose of re- deeming legal tender notes as prescribed by law, to acquire and maintain a reserve fund in coin not loss than $100,000,000, to be provided by the use of sur- plus revenues and sales of bonds. If the coin reserve be roduced to $50,000,000 tho redemption of legal tender notes shall be suspended until the reserve fund is restored to $100, 000,000, but in that event the holders of legal tenders may exchange them fur United Stat four per cent bonds in sums not less than $50. Notes thus redecmed shall not bo reiscued or replaced by otl until tho reserve faud is restorea to $100, 000,000, The bill also authorizes the Secretary of the Treas- ury to receive in payment of any bonds which he may sell, under the Rofunding act of 1870, the legal tender notes in lieu of coin, but at ‘not less than the par value of said bonds in coin, Icas an atiowance not exceeding one-balf of one per cont of said bonds for expenses, he 18 required to use the legal tender notes so received, or such other notes as may be issued in lieu thereol, in the purchase of Any outstanding fiye-twonty boads, at a price na ox ceeding their par v@lue in coin, or in purchasing coin for the redemption of such bonds, THE SILVER BILL—WILL THE PRESIDENT SIGN 1T?—STANLEY MATTHEWS ON THE SUBJRCT— ACTION OF THE SENATE COMMITTEE, Senator Stanley Matthews says ho has made no as, sortion that the President will sign the Silver bill. Ho has merely expressed his individual opinion that in tho event of tho bili’s passage by the Senate the President will approve it, and ho adds that this expression of opinion was made by him without any information derived from the Presi- dont as to his intentions on this sabject and neitner protessed to be nor was, in fact, a statement based upon the President's authority. It was bised upon the as- sumption that the bill would pass by so largo a major. ity thattho President would consider it such an ex- pression of the public will as bo could not properiy uis- regard, The Senate Financo Committeo at a mocting this morning informally discussed tho silver question at some length, but have not yet tai up any of the bills on this subject for action, It was agreed, how- vor, that the House bill for the remonotization of liver shall be taken ap for consideration by the com- mitteo next Tuesday, and thero scems to be some probability that a voto upon i will ba taken the samo dey. THE PACIFIC RAILROADS—A MOVEMENT 10 MAKE THEM COMPLY WITH THE Law. Tho resolution offered to-day by Mr. Chaffee re. questing the President of the United States to inform the Senate what legal impediments, if any, exist which provont him from executing the laws of Congress concerning the operation of the Union Pacific Railrond and branches, in a measure Intended to compel compliance with tho law undor penalty of immediate lorteiture of all the rights, privileges, franchises and lands receivod from the United States, together with ail the property of every kind belonging to tho companics. Itis designed to test tho question of the power of tho cxecutive department ofthe government to execute existing laws regulating NEW YORK HERALD, FRIDAY, the operation of these Pacific railroads, and points to furtber legislation for the romoval of all legal impedi- ments, if any should be found, which prevent the President {rom enforcing the acts of Cougress. SENATOR PATTERSON'S CASE AGAIN POSTPONED. The case of Senator Patterson, a requisition having been made for him by the Governor of South Carolina, was before Judge Humphreys again to-day on habeas corpus, but was postponed unti: Wednesday, Novem- ber 21, THE EXTRADITION TREATY WITH MEXICO—IN- TERPRETATION GIVEN IT BY THE DIAZ GOV- ERNMENT. The Diario Official, of October 17, contains what ap- Pears to be an authoritative exposition of the viows of the Moxican government tn reference to the Extra- dition Treaty with the United States. It claims that the present treaty does not prohibit the surrender of Mexican citizens to be tried in the United States for offences committed on United States soil, and that the government may, ia its discretion, surrender them. It says that the action ofthe Executive in ordering the surrender of tho raiders whe attacked the Rio Grande Jail was in ac- cordance with advanced ana enlightened principles ot ipternational law and comity and required by the po- cullar circumstances of the crime, It adds:— If tho government has duties toward citizens it also internationa! duties, to which it woald be anfaith- Jul it it retmsed ite assistance in the execution of salu- tary justice, THE PARIS EXPOSITION--ACTION OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEE. The House Committee on Foreign Affairs will at their ting om Monday next agree upon a bill for American ropresentation at the Paris International Exposition, and report it to the House on that day. Ap amplo sum for that purpose will be proposed, though, as yet, the details have not been arranged. It the facts before thom, in- cluding the views, recommendatt and estimates of the Department of State. SIR EDWARD THORNTON'S RETURN. A despatch was received on tho 24th of October from Sir Edward Thornton, saying he oxpected to re- turn to Washington daring the latter part of the present month, FEARS OF A FAMINE IN SIAM--THE EXPORTA- TION OF BICE PROHIBITED. The Congul of the United States at Bangkok reports that on account of the scarcity of rain throughout Siam during the rear, and the consequont failure (from appearances) of the rice crop, which would mean a general famine, the King has is- sued a proclamation, dated August 24, 1877, prohibiting the eéaportation of rite from tho country from the 24th of September, 1877, to the 13th of September, 1878. Morchants and traders will bo Ppermittad to export thé stocks on hnnd at tho date of tho proclamation, Should any change for the bettor occur, enough to justify the act, another prociamation will bo issued permitting the export of mee as botoro, Siam exported during the year 1876 36,0v0,000 pounds of rice, NOMINATIONS BY THE PRESIDENT. The Prestdont sent the following nominations to the Senate to-day :—Heary &, Sanford, of Florida, to be Minister to Belgium; John McClintock to be United States Marshal for Maryland; William A. Stuart to be Collector of Internal Revenue for the Second astrict of Kentucky; William M. Barwell to be Regisiter of tho Land Ofico at New Orleans. Alexander Smith to be Postmaster at Raton Rouge, La., and Linos North to be Postmaster at Brunswick, Ga. CONFIRMATIONS BY THE SENATE, In addition to a large number ot postmasters the Senate to-day confirmed the following nominations:— To be Register of the Land Office of Santa Fé, New Mexico, Remeo H. Freer, of Chariestou, W. Va. To bo Secretary of the Territory of Montana, James B, Mills, of Montana. pix taal ver EES PROCEEDINGS OF CONGRESS. SENATE. Wasnincton, Nov. 8, 1877. Mr. McDonaup, (dem.) ot Ind., submitted a resolu- tion providing for the payment out of the contingent fand of the Senate of the expenses incurred by the committee of the Senate appointed to attend the funoral of tho lato Senator Morton, and it was agreed to Mr. Morgan, (dem.) of Ala., presonted tho petition Of citizens of Monroe county, Aja,, asking an appro- prietion to improve the navigation from thecity of ‘Mobite to deep water in the bay of Mobilc, Referred to the Commities on Commerce. The fellowing bills were introduced and roferred to appropriate commitiees :— By Mr. Antyoxy, (rop.) of R, L—A joint resolution authorizing Commander E. 0, Matthews, of the United States Navy, to accept a gilt teapot from the Emperor of Siam, By Mr. Martrusws, (rep.) of Ohio—Supplementary to the act entitiod **An to provide for the resump- tion of specie payments.’ Approvou January 14, 1875, THR PACIFIC RAILROADS. Mr. Cnarrss, (rop.) of Ual., subinittod the follow. tog:— Whoreas Congress did provide in the aet of July 1, 1962, being an act entitled “An act to nid of w railroad ana telegraph line from the Missouri the Pacilic Oce: he government the uso of id other purposes. and , March 3, 1869, hereof, thas ‘said operated and used poses of cor fF 28 the pablic and gove: as continnous line without any discrimination ry tthe f any of tho other said companies or ad business of t others, and apo f pose of aiding in the constiuction of said roads, to be Operated as aforesaid, and whereas the suid Union Pacitic Kailro Comany and its bran companies, be- ing the Kanans Pacitle Compauy. the Denver Hacific Company, tho Central Facific of Onllfornia, the Burlington ana Missouri River Company and the Sioux City. branch, eretolore neglected and still du neglect and ret if roads In accordance with said acts of operate thai but hi ostdent of the United States be and iniurm the Senate what legal im: whieh prevent h evy requeste: pedjments, if auy, tho Jaws in accordance with the obligati 1d and 4 Com, pe pulated and agreed upon in the severai acts ature: Mr. Cnarrer asked that tbo resolution bo laid over for the present, and g: notice that he would call it hext week for the purpose of submitting regard thereto, MAX, (dem) of Oni Senator irom Colorado (Mr, Cha! amble so asta allege that tne vom; their roads in violation of the act of Cor of making a positive declaration, Mr. Cnarrés said he preterred it should be printed es sudmisied by hum. Any.emendmoent could bo wade reafter. I was ordered that tue preamble and solution be printed aud le over ior the present, us requested by Air, Chaffee, MRXICAN CLAIMS. egesied that ibe modify the pre- ies operated 8, Instead Mr, Eouosvs, (rep.) of Vi., submitted a resolu. ton ‘ucting the Commitioe on the Ju inquire report whether aay legisiation 1s noces- sary in order so authorize the payment of any mot received trom ti puolic | or otnerw: to Americans, claiman's to is made by the Commission created by the between the United States and that Leng teu ratiGcations whereot wore exchanged on the st day of February, A, D, 1869, $, called up the resola- jay ast requesting the President to communicate 10 the Senate all too tacts in his possession regarding the rescue of pris from tho Starr Couoty (Texas) Jail in Angust ta an armed band from Mexico, and it was ugreed to, Mr. Mrronent, (rej.) of Oregon, called up tho reso- lution submited by him on Tuesday last directing the Secretary of the Interior to intorm the Senate uf the number of miles of railroad completed by the Northern Vacitic Kaliroad Company, waen con- Structed aud whether in @ continucus line; what changes havo been mado to the locality of the road, &c, Agreed to, On motion of Mr, Hamiin the Vico Prosident was authorized to Gill tho vacancy op the Committes on Foreign Relations occasioned by the aeath of Sir. Mor- ton, and on motion of Mr. Mircurtt. the View Presi. dent was authorized to dil tho vacancies on the com- mittees on Privileges and Electiuns and on Railroads occasioned by the doath of that Senator, The Senate then at twenty-five minutes past tweive, on motion of Mr. ANTHONY, Went into executive sos- sion, and when the doors were reopencd at tou m: utos to One adjourned antil to-morrow, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, Wasmixatox, Nov, 8, 1877, There being no cbaplain present this morning the House was oponed without prayer. The House then at ten minutes ‘past twelve o'clock Went into Committec of the Whole (Mr. Cox, of New York, !o the chair) upon the Army Apprupriation bill. SPRECT OF MR, ATRINS. General debate upon the bill was limited to two hours, and the House was addressed by Mr. ATKINS, (dem.) of Tonn., chairman of the Appropriation Com- mittoe, Me stated that be did not regard it within the Province of that committee to inquire into the action of the Prosident in not calling an extra sossion of C NOVEMBER 9, 1877.-TRIPLE gress before tho beginning of tho present fiscal year. If any one desires to complain of that action at was a legitimate subject of judicial inquiry, Ho ex- Plained that the estimate of the War Department for the present yoar amounted to $30,500,000, while the Dill appropriated $25,700,000, a decroase of $3.000,000 from the appropriation of last year, The bill had Deen drawn up upon the basis of 22,000 men for the first four months of tho year and 20,000 men for the remaining eight months. The eral of the Army had been before tho committee, and he atated posi- luyoly that thero were less than 20,000 men in the service at the present time, Mr. Foster, (rep.) of Unio, said that, according to his recollection, the Goveral of the Army had only stated his belief, and did not profess to have apy data whatovor. Mr. BLouwr, (dom.) of Ga, said that so for from morely stating lis opinion tho General had made a report, which, he stated, showed the disposition of every soldior, F. ATKINS (continuing) said that -he was etil! tn favor of reducing the army to 18,000 men, butho dia Dot think thia was the propor time to do 80, since the army had beon so long without pay, aud the question nae the force might delay the passage of the i With regard to the restriction placed upon last '6 bill ho said that it had been left out of the pres- bill because the committce did not feel that, in view of recent events, in view of the action of the Presidont in carrying out tho constitution, in carrying out the timo-honored doctrize of non-iotervention and in allowing the States to regulate their own affairs in their own way, 14 was Docessary to placo tho restricting clause ip tho present bill, Hosupposed that some of his friends Would find fault with the commitiee for that omis- sion, but be declarod that if the samo circumstances oX1ss0d NOW as existod eight months ago he would havo stood squarely by the Festriction, no matter what tho consequences might bo, In answer toa question by Mr. Hooker, of Missin. sippl, dir. Singleton, of Mississipp: (a member of tho Appropriation Commitice), said that General sber- man bad appoared before that commitice, and bad stated that at the timo of the Prosidential inaugura- tion there wore in the Southorn States four regiments of 300 men each, two of which had been since with- rawn, SCHLHICURR, (dem.) of Toxas, inquired whother the’ commitioo had taken the trouble to exarmine whether the sirength of tho army wus sufficient for the protection of tne border, Mr, ArKixs replicd that in his opinion the army was suflicicutly Jarge for that purpose. Mr, Foster, of Onio (a member of the Appropria- tron Cominittee), remarked im reply to Mr, Schleicher, that the commitiec had taken pain to inform itself ‘On the subject, and that all ino officors bad said that the present force was not suflicieal, Mr, ATKixs said he would now yioid ten minutes to the gentleman irom New York (#r. Wood). Mr, Woop said tat be had no disposition to partic!- pate in the debate on this bil, The remarks which be proposed to submit bad reference tu the generul condition of the expenditures and receipts of the governincat, but as his statement would occupy Jonger than ten minutes ho would inke some otner opportunity to express his views. s SPHECH OF MR, FOSTER, Mr, Foster said that it was the opinion of the Genoral of the Army that on the 1st ot November | Shere wore not more than 20,000 men in the army. ‘To-dey, however, astatement had boea read from tho Paymaster Genoral asking tor an tocreaco of the pay appropriation because of the inistake mado as to tho number of mov, his information being that the Prosemt jorco 1s avout 22,000 mon, The difllculty wuto which the Committee on Appropriations had fallen aroso frum the fact that it felt it to be its bownden duty to reduco the appropriations for the army and to reduce sho army itaelt. Tho mombers of the Minority had no desire to ombarrass the action of the majority, They belioved, however, that a force Ot 25,000 men was a8 small as the noeds of the coantry warranted. They wero not disposed to make factious Opposition to the action of the majority. They would perhaps test the scnse of the House on ove or two questions, but not further. ‘they had not the heart to do so whon they knew that officors of the army up to tna dato bad lust perhaps $200,000 iu interest by delay and carelessness on the part of tac House, They bad lost $50,000 inteross within the last threo weeks and wero Joring $2,000 ® day. His own impression wus that Congress ought to make an appropriation for 25,000 mon, The provision ior a joss number was an invita- tion to Indian hostilities und Mexican raids, He pre- Aiotod hut a Deuciency vit tor at least $2,500,000 would have to be passod for this year's support of the army. Mr. Buacknvrs, (dem.) of Ky., inquired whether, as the bill authorized tho increase of cavalry companies to 100 mon, there was reall: y reduction of lerce contempia'cd by the bill. Mr. Foatsx replied that there was an increase in one way and a decr jn anothor, but he would refer the gentleman to the chairman of the commitice. Mr, ATKINS replicd that it cuvalry companies were Increased to 100 n would be 10,000 me: that the cavalry companies Men each, not that they Mr, BLACKBUKN suggesied that ascach of the ten cavalry regim ed of twelve companies the cavalry force would bo 12,000. Mr. Coxaxn, (rep.) of Mich., asked whether thero jt Not to be A provision in the bill to allow a mod- erate rato of iniereat on pay already due, the caso of a soldior's widow who nad to for pay at eight per cor to obtain means to bury her husvand. Mr, Moyny, (dom.) of Miss, asked Mr. Conger to BIVe the names and pr 1 bhat caso, Mr Coxcer—The 2 Deed Not Fr with such alacrity aiter the tis enough for me to way that I ha ion within the lasttweaty- any information uM ont! peotfully ask him for it. Mr. ConGern—Will the gentleman contain his soul In patience ? Mr. Moxxy—I simply ask the genticman for his in- formation ; I doubt his ability to give 1, Mr. Concun—it is barely possibio that the gentlo- mau takes this to intimate that !uformation which Thave received 18 incorrect. [It so there is a moro courteot fay tO convey that idea, (iaughter.) When the gentieman has been ionger in the House end loarned its courtesies better—(inughter). Mr. Monry—I cannot learn them irom tne gentle- map. Mr. Coxcer (continuing bis sentence) than to dis- pute the statement of a mombor made on information, he will not rise to request dates, names and stances. All that 1 such cases may exist. Does the gentloman’s om cionce extend to all this class of cascs so as to cnable him to deny the possibility ? Mr. Monky—I asked the gentleman for his informa- \d he fails to grvo it. Ci Vonger) —Does the gentioman entioman {rom Mississipp! ? Mr. Coyoxn—Certainly, I suppose he wants to apologize. (Laughter.) Mr. Mosny ropeated his remark, which Mr. Conger affected not to hear, but he cansed a general outburst ot jaughier by ing, with an appearance of gravity, “The apology 1s satisinctory.”? Mr. Lips, (rep.) of Kansas, said that this morn- ing the Adjutant Geueral pad told him toat from the best data the army stoud at about 22,000 mon; nom- inally it was 25,000 strong. He wished to ask the chairmad of (be Appropriation Commitice if he de- sired to keep itaown W the standard to which 1 had been reduced by Joseph and Siting Bull. When General Gibvon attacked Joseph be had six companies of men with but 120 men jn alt 61x, and (bo Gommit- toc on Appropriations made its appropriation on that basis. Mr. Donmam, (dem.) of Ky., said that gentlemen on the other side had endeavored to place the responsi- bility of the fatiuro of tho Army bill last year upon tho democratic party. Tney wero en- urely wrong; the House had ‘passed tho Dill, bit the Senate had refusea to ao so, and it was then the daty of the President to call tho extra session. Tho responsibility, theretore, it there was aby, rested upon the repablican party and the I'resident. The Genoral ot the Army bad stated that there were less than twenty thousand men in the army. Mr. Foster asked it the gentioman from Kentuoky (Mr. Durham) had not understood the General of tho Army to say that tho committee had better disband the army than reduce it to 20,000 men, Mr. DURNAM answered that if the committee had pandered to tho prejudices of those who liked the martial tramp of untold thousands 1 would havo 1 creased the army to 50,000 men. Tho General had ex- pres-ed his desire ta have 40,000. Mr. Foster said ho was airaid ine gentieman from Kentucky (Mr. Durham) mast bave mistaken Geacral Mevlellan tor the Genere! of the Army, Mr. Derdam rephod that be wae not mistaken; but he did not wonder that McClelian was ringing in the ears of tne gentleman from Ohio did not think it clause of inst y the President ground ot nor ntion with the jocal govern’ ofthe States, Inconciusion be gave notice tha’ the next Army Appropriation bili ho would not vote to make appropriation lor more that 15,000 men. dof Miss., a member of the defonded the action of the Appropri committee, an eral Sherman’ id that he bad estimated the present streng rmy at 20,000 men, re- marking that by reason ci death, desertion and’ dis- charge companies had beon reduced to twenty or nen, Ho had stated so positively, trom The committer, acting on ti pake ao appropriation for the ‘ovided jor 22,000 men for for the remainder of the the ¢ to | ‘hat privcipie that it was to Support of the army, bi four months and 20,000 m yhat could number. come up ia tho rogular session, it was ; ve question. had roi we that 0 army were to if be disbanded General Sherman had beea asked whether he thought thatthe army should be ured tor the purpose of pulsing down riots in the several States, and ho answered cmphaticaily that it should that view that Goneral Sherman ‘my should bo increased. Por him- self (Mr. Singleton) he wished it undorstood that he was opposed to @ standing army for the purpose of in- torfering with riots im tbe States, at least aatil it should be demonstrated to his mind that the Stato au- thoritics Wore not able to put thein down. fostek—Does tho geatioman object to the use of the army in putting down the riots in West Vir- ginia nod Maryiand? Mr, SINGLETON—I object to the use of tho army for bes such purpose as It lias been used for im the past. ir, Posten repeated his question, but got no direct anewer. Ar, SINGLETON addressed himself to Mr, Conger’s speech aud asked at whose door the fault of not pro- viding tor the army lay, and he assorted that the whole difoulty had been on account of the proper proviso that the troops should pot be used for the Purpose of coercing men at the ballos box, The Pres SHEET. Ider who bad been olected by those means bi himself agrecd wisn the House m tbat respect, sod had withdrawn the troops from the woth, really declaring that they should not be there. hat else had en place since? Pid they not hear the thunder tones trom Ohio and Pennsylvania indorsivg the democratic party ? never would have occurrea, Mr. Frvs, (rep.) of Me., asked Mr, Singleton why he objected to ng troops stationed im the South? Mr. Sincueros replied that he did not; bat that be id object to their being used for political purposes. AMENDM Tho time for general de! Clork proceeded to read the Mr. en TS, having expired, the yy sect micner, of Texas, offered an amendment my was composed of onl; yy had stated, the bill would not mber to be increased, He called atienti it had 'y Should follow Mexicai , General Ord had been blo movable foree which he had wi vernment, ana defied Tho United Si condition of being uefied and t) a that im There would be a limit to tho pepence of the poop! on tho frontier, and when that limit was. reached there would be wi The show of force, power and old aiffculiies, Mexicans could sternness was tl y Those wore the only argu understand. Mr, Blount, of Georgia, opposed the amendment, and called attention to- tue tact that, in 1856, w. tho Mexican frontier was a8 large as at proseat, the army was composes of but 15,000 men. Mr. CaLKins, (rep) of lod, said that he was in favor of iucreasing the army to 50,000 men, and he believed that was economy. When thé protection ot property and tho security of lile were measured by a few paltry dollars 1+ was not economy, it was par: moniousness. The recent riois bad shown con- clusively tbat for the protection of property and iile Bomotbing was necded beside the State milivia. Mr. Lutter, (dem,) of Cal.—Does my Iriend pro- Pose to Keep a staading army to suppress the riots of taboring men’ Mr. lowNskNp, (rop.) of N. Y.—No; to put down the heathen Chinee, hi Mr, CanKins boped that ulstriend trom Ca)ifernia (Mr, Luttro!!) did not claim that the real workingmen were responsible for these ri He hoped he did pot Propose tu libel the workingmen ip that way. Mr. LUTTRELI—Do you mean to say that those were not the riots of workingmen? Mr. CaLkixs-—They were not laboring men. Mr. Lurrre.i—if they were not lavoring men they must have boen republican politicuns, Mr, Gaui 1 uo not know whether they were or not; but L know that those states which were demo- Cratic culled as lussily ior tho strong arm of tho gov- ornment as the gentleman does to sup; tho beathea Chines, (Laughter. ) Mr. Lurreeut— Does y that the atleman mean to he intends to keep # stan rhe army to put down those mon who havo seen Ht to etrike against tbe oppression Of capitalists? 1xs—Every man bas @ right to cease work he cnooses; but he has norigot to suy another man shall not work. Mr. Uaxen, (rep.) of Ind., addreased the committce in javor of the amendment. Mr, MILLS, (dem. ) of Texas, advocated his colleagu: amendment, und said the present admia! taken op toward a col discharge of duty to Texas shat had Deon tal quarter ofa century. ie ridicuied the “be: ecomomy’? as iliustrated by bis own sido of | and expressed a wish to see the | ek ‘Mr, Blount) sent as Ministor F: inary to Cortina, so that hv might learn sometping of the the State of Texas rar. and {i Moxican art of diplomacy. ‘expenued $1,800,000 in defence ot the tront it Were not lor Texas troops to-day Ge not be ablo to mi ja himeell fity San Antonio. Mr, ATKINS, of Tennessee, expressed his regret at to A Policoman of bim. The ide: iaTge standing army wasto be maintained to keep o1 der and preserve peace, was ® total aubyi vory theory of ual 8 take o and property. Iho idea @ standing army ‘was to be kopt up tor that purposo was mopsteot It had been estimated that there were 170,000 gaged in the riots of last summer; and was the gov- ernment to maintain a regular army of 100,000 men to imect such an evens? Il 16 was expected that peaco ‘Was lo be prescrved by the army it would require not 25,00 mea, but four times that number. A quarter ot a milion of men covld not keep the peace if the strong arm of powcr was to be relied on, He beliov that even in Texas a |i ‘exas would defend h y want opportualiy to doi, He believed that au appro- Ppriation should be made to increase the siock of small ms aud Cocourage military organizations in the BI ‘and he voloved that that would do more than By LbINg else to remody the SPERCU OF MR. BLACKBORM, Mr. Buackvxs, 01 Kentucky, moved to reduce the force o4 the army 10 +15,000 men, tte deuted, tor hy solt aud the members ou his sido of the Mouse, wa ‘the proper method of preventing such disorders as disgraced the country last suinmer was to be touud 1a an increase vt the army, or in supplying m years, y not willing to admit that such a process of repressicn, coupled with the whole: murder of & siarving popuiace, was either statesmanspip, fair dealiog or manhood properiy illustrated. In conclusion © notice that he would call for the yeas aud oi the House on his amendment so a8 to test the sense of ine Houso whether it would propose to redreas tuo wrongs of the impoverished citizens of the country by an locrease of the military power. (More applause in the galleries. ) Mr. Paipeors, (demn.) of Va., was surprisod at t siand takea by Lo aiion from Texas If 4 State of Texas was i of war, why nad no ry Exocutive £0 informed the House. The voiauteer army of the country tocting the coun sufficient lor the prot Hi therolore vote for the amendment of the gentloman from Kentucky (Mr. Biackburn), and if a proviso wero not added like the one embodied in the bill of lest Yoar ho would vote against the bill Mr. Hewirr, (dem.) of N.Y., said that the question of reorganization of the army demanded more time than the Committee on Appropriations had to give nt. The present bill simply paid the army, which had nobly done its duty during the past et months without remuneration. Lot the United States discharge its just obligations and leavo to tho futuro the question vf increase of decrease. Mr. Wxicut, (dem.) of Pa., said thet he represented a district where troops had been stationed during the recent riots. ‘Those troops hud not been introduced at toe instance of the business meu of the aistrict, but came at the solicitation of tbe controllers of the mines. Ho had voen tuere wll the time and could seo no occasiun for an officer's sword or a soldier's mus- ket, and ho favored the reduction of tne army to 15,009 men, Mr. Cirmenr, (dem.) of Pa,, suid that if the Adjutant General hud not stated that the army did not exceed twenty thousand he would have voted for a proviso reducing 1 to that number,, but he thought that tho bills should be passed without lurtber reduction, and that officers and wen shouid feceive thoir just dues, leaving the question Of tio reorganization o| the army to be considered as more lengib Jn sho future. Mr. CuLnerson, of Texas, said thet the Kepresonta- tives from Texas did not ask that tbe army should be incroased to 25,000 in order w wage war mst tbe people of the United Stason, bat in order that some ge- curity should be ven 0. ie teiks frontior against incursions of murderous Mexicanw If the ariny were reduced to 15,000 the quota allowed to Texas would bo so small that in the future, as Ih’'too pas, tho people ited States would pe murderod to aie ed in the very prosence ould bo ® separate mi passed on the subject and not one tacked on to an ap- Propriation bill, Mr, Tnnockmonton, (dem.) of Texas, advocated the amondment offered by Mr, Schielcnor. Mr. Herm, (aem.) of N. Y., wanted to know why it was that 1 1m 1860 an army of 25,000 men was main- tained at a cost of $17,000,000 or $15,000,000 is now Tequiros an appropriation of $32,000,000 ior an army ot 20,000 me Mr. ATKINS informed him in reply that the army in 1860 did not exceed 13,000 mea. Mr. Bas: of Unio, read from & statement of ine Ad, 1 so show that the strength of the army on tho Ist ins!, was 22,304. Mr. Hwitr, of New York, said tuat stateme eo Jist of August. was the Presidont had by the withurawal of the troops from South vir- tually adopted the policy of the democratic side of tho | House. As to the responsibility tor not paying the troops it rested with (ne President, who stiould im- mediately have convened Congress to pass tue Army mi OF GENERAL BANKS, op.) of Masy., said that @ military es- tial a ndisponsabie part ot 25,000 men yas ‘ould not vote Mr. Baxks, tablishment was ane of every government, and that for a government of 44,007,000 people was certai small as hould be, He the increase of a sity of repressing of controlling the laboring men of the country. He dismissed that idea as having connection with She subject; bat the condition of things on the Texas fronwer was a condition of actual War, and it would be a poor economy to reduce ibe army by even athousand men, such a reductio might possibly (owing to the diflealty of the situation there) Involve tho government in a war or piace it in such @ position that no escape could bo found from an appeal to military force, It would therefore be to the last degree unwise to reduce ine army. Along the Indian trontier a similar state of things existed, Ho therelore favored keeping the army up to the maximum authorized by the existing law—25,000 mon. He would vote to send 10,000 or 15,000 men to the Texas frontier on condition that they shoald not cross it, but maintain peace in Texas, and thus prevont the possibility ot war, That would be wise ecovomy And wise legisiation. Ho would con- tinue that policy until all questions between the two countries Were settled. Mr. CRITTENDEN, (dom.) of Mo,, was unwilling to | vote one dollar until he knew how many men were in the army, and mo one seemed to have that What was the condition of the | bad captured General Howard and General ‘Miles had captured Josepp, Sitting Bull had reured trom the country, aud thero way now no use for an army of over 15,000. It should never bo used to overawe |; ing men, for people of that elass would never be con- quered by force, wntle tne A jean people would al- ways be on tho'side of the la! Mr. Spamxs, (dom.) of Ill, he session bad been called for tne purpose of passin: just dues of the army, and the bill snould there! be promptly Withoat action the committee rose, and the House at twonty minutes past four, P. M., adjourned, THE VISITING PONCAS NAMES AND GENERAL APPEARANCE OF TEE CHIEFS—CONDITION OF THE TRIBE—PUR> POSES OF THE VISIT. Wasutxorow, Nov. 8, 1877. ‘The delegation of Ponca chiefs, who tiave been ex pected here for some days toconler with the Presty dent ine principal authorities of tho Interior Ne partment upon matters connected with tho interests of their tribe, arrived hore to-day in chargo of Major F. A. Howard and wero comfortably quartered. The ontire party, in addition to Major Howard, consists of Mr. §E. Willard, his clerk; Baptiste Barnaby and Charles Le - Clat half breods, as inter. Indian chiets:—White gore and se fallowin ingle Hegle, Standing Boftalo, ig Elk, ot Crow, Smoke Maker, Frank La Flis! chief, Mitohel rerrie (half breed), and Big Snake, Io a 00 th look very much alike, Thoir ages rango from y-five to Ally years, 1 and athletic, and wears a w: leggings, with tbo sid rked casios, He bas arm) elbow, Standing Buffal with a fanoy head dress, por fully crvilized, Dakota, 1m the border } id tribes, and thoy bad been Soenged principally cultivation of the sel, They lived in log cab- ins and frame buildi their own horses, farming implements were, bow- ever removed by the governinent last July to the Im dian Territory and had to resort to wigwams for shel- ter for tbe timo being: They do not oxpress any dis Satistgction at the result, but claim that they sheuld be paid Jor their crops which were leit in the grouad, and there should be a better anderstanding as othe land and thata claim thoy bi ageinat the Sioug should bo paid or secured to them by tho government, They now number atout eight bundred souls, They will also ask assistance. to educate their children, As soon as they have recovered {rom the fatigues of the Journey they will nave an interview with tho Presi. dent at the Exocutive Mansion. ART RECEPTION AT ‘THE UNION LEAGUE, BECOND MONTHLY EXHIBITION IN THE CLUB GALLERY. The Union League Club gave the second of thig season’s movthly exhibitions of paintings and recep. tron of the artists represented lastevening. The pice tures as wollas the monthly club meetings on these oc. casions usually araw togethor a very iull assemblage of clab members, but the rain kept many away last evex ing. This month’s oxhibiuoa, as the art season it ow fully opened, 16 mope important and richer ts notable cagvases, of which there are some Mfty, thas that of Jast month, - Turnipg to tho right on entering the gallery the frat picture is a moodlight scene by Herman Fuchsal, and next bangs Arthur Parton’s bright ‘‘Noopday on the Delaware.” Abovo are ‘“Keady for the Chase,” an excellent examplo of Eugene Meeks, and by 1+ Me- Entee’s “Sources of tho Delaware.” Noxt is noticed Seymour Guy’s very admirable canvas, ‘*].ove’s First Labor.” Below are a portrait by Loop.and a sunset on Lake Champlain by Arthur Partoo. Furtbor along hangs a very charming little landscape, with figures, by Wadsworth Thompson, und by it Clinton Ostivie’s quiet, restful “Meadow Brook,” On the upper line ts Bricher’s “Afternoon—Pium Island Boach,’’ next to atural cattle piece by J. H, Dolph— Frog.’ Ou the line bolow is bung « A. Biukelock. by C. 8. Re tenderly treatea contre of this Next hangs J. G. Brown’s: ‘His Favorite near it H. I, Gray's ‘Jessica,’ above which Uhareh, *' he Little Beggar,” a charm: ), of Flerence. Om roe ‘wall ne Elven. Book ;' 4s @ comical litte F. Not far from these is littie Eugene P noticed is B.C. Minor’s and next Humphrey Moor Manola,’’ Then comes Waiter Shirlaw od, gruceful picture, ‘The Mod: contre 18 Cropsey’s large and recent canvas of adside scone, and to the right Powoll’s the westera plain: drink, by Albert Biorstadt. Above this ange a barn. yard scene, by Sbiriaw, and on tho line next tb J. G car resented by his George.” In the corn 7 Eugene Meeks, called ‘neorking His Beat. above this is & lapcscape with cattie at a brook, oy Jown G. Wiggans, which is worthy of h praise for carolul and pleas: there ise view, on Esopus Creek, and Arthur Quartiey is rep- resented on ble southern wall by ono of his best caa- vases, truthiul and full of color, ied ‘Tho Fisher. man’s Home, Capo Ano.” Gilbert Gaul’s simpto and very pleasing “On the Island of Grand Men: Dolpn’s “Family Cares’? hang the same wall, Around the turn are a bit of old New York by Tiflany ‘and George H. Siory’s Academy picture, «Che Testy Oid ‘dquire,”’ next to which isa New Hampshire scene Ly Sonutag, The two members of the Art Committee who did the hanging—namely, Messrs. Baker and Walier—are to be copgratulated on a very judicious arrangement, ARMY INTELLIGENCE, Wasmixaroy, Nov. 8, 1877, Iieutenant Colonel Charles H. Tompkins, Deputy Quartermaster, 1s ordered to duty as Chief Quartor- master of the Department of Dakota, to relieve Major B.C. Card, Captain Willam T, Howell, Assistant Quartermaster, is orderod to duty im the Military s yon of the Misrour!, Leave of absence for four months, ‘with permission to go beyond the s grhoied te Second Lieutenant Bainbridge oynolds, Third cav- alry. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE [BY TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD.) Nonvotn, Va, Nov. 8, 1877, Surgeon H, W. Lawtello, in charge of the United States Marine Hospital at this port, has been detached to serve as a member of a board to examine the keop- ers and crows of life-savip, tions on the Atiantio const, and is ordered to report im person to the de- partment at Washington for the duty assigned. In ad- aition to the duty of examinin: crews of the sta. tion Dr, Lawtolle wilt instract of resuscitation, which has been adoptea ernment Assistant Surgeon Charles B, Goldsborough has been ordered to take charge of the Marine Hospital at this station during Dr. Lawte! bsence, BURGLARS INTERRUPTED. Tho basement of No. 92 Fast Fourteenth street, undor the German Savings Bank, is occupied by Praetorious & Co., loan and exchange brokers, On Saturday morning last Officor O'Rourke, on whose patrol the piace is located, found the office door open, and, ontoring, discovered that burglars had been there before him. The office contains a large safe, jewelry and moncy hinges of the sale nd on the floor lay a sec. and a number of wedges, T fright and left in haste, as they had j rod a wedge in the crack of the to onablo them to bring the jimmy to bear side bolts, The ‘tools’ were taken to the no report of the affair was mage have been made. police station, public, No arrest BEFORE OR AFTER DEATH? The body of the man found in the North Ri a the foot of West Eleventh street on the 7th inst. wae lant night identified as that of Dennis Hughes, of No, 563 Wost Seventy-minth streot. There was a gash on the right side of his head and bis friends think that he bas beon foulty dealt with. Deputy Coroner Gold- achmit made an examination, bat jound that the wound Was 8 BSoperfcial One and might have boen re- cotved alter aeath, A JERSEY OfTY FIRE. A trame building at No. 70 Honderson street, Jersey City, owned and occupied by John Manning, was dev | airoyed by fire youverday. Lan, $3,000