The New York Herald Newspaper, October 3, 1877, Page 3

NEW YORK DEMOCRATS, Determined Efforts to “Carry” the Convention To-Day, THE GOVERNOR’S STATEMENTS. Arrival of Kelly, Morrissey and Bixby. TAMMANY’S FIRST DEFEAT. A Rumpus Before the State Cen- tral Committee, TEMPORARY ORGANIZATION, Success of the Robinson-Tilden Party. aes THREATS OF VENGEANCE. [BY TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD.] Atwany, Oot. 2, 1877, The aropping Ore of arriving delegates which was Kept up yesterday and through the pight has ceased to-day and, given place to tho rattling of artillory, which is pow herd all along the line, The Delavan House ts thigevening as densely crowded as it used to be in the rousing days of the old Tammany rule, and there 1s intense excitement among the more deeply Interested of the contending factions and considerable show of strong feeling on the part of the immedi. ate iriends of the old conal men, amount. ing in many cases to a venomous and very undemocratic strife. The spirit of opposition manifested against the pi nt State officers incites the conviction that there is something moro than a mere contention over the nomination animating a portion, at least of their opponents. Many democrats from the central and western part of the State do not hesitate to Qcnounce Mr, Bigelow and Mr, Fairchild im the most unmeasured terms and to threaten an open bolt from tke Convention should they be nominated, ‘This sort of eloctioneering against the State officers hus served to add to their strength and if other d better Influences’ were not at work in favor of a new or partially new ticket there would be no chance of their renomination, Several unpledged and undecided delegates who came Prepared to hear calm arguments as to the wisest pol- sey that can be pursued by the party, in ordor to in- Buro success in the State at this first contest following the Presidential struggle and to strengthen the dem- Ocracy im the several Senatorial districts, have be. come alarmed, however, at this virulent denunciation of State officers against whom no specific charges of misconduct have been made. CURRENT TALK. Une of this number remarked to-day:—‘'] was of opinton belore I reached here that as the democratic party contains many capable and honest mea, fully as trustworthy as those pow filling the State offices, it might strengthen us through the State to take up now and acceptubles. Iam in favor of rotation in office, and have thought that men might be advanced to positions In the State government who would impart more enthusiasin to the canvass than the geatlemen who were elected two years ago, ut it the Intter are to be driven out with scourges, 1 can rendily believo that the fight ts mado, not against them as individuals who aro no mofo entitlod than others to the offices, but against the State administra- Hons of which they have been a part and parcel. NEW TICKET SUPPORTERS. ‘Thore aro, however, many delegates out of the 384 In tho Convention who tavor a new ticket on en- tirely different grounds, The friends of Mr. Beach ai among this number, and they simply declare tbat they prefer the candidate they sup- port 10 Bigelow, first, because he is a more pronounced aemocrat, and next because they regard bim a8a more competent man than the present Secretary of State as a member of the Canal jours. But many of these delegates do not care to go Deyond Mr. Bigelow in making a change from the present régime, and if they could secure Mr, Beach Ihey might agree to the rest of the old ticket being placed again in the field, They are compoiled, howevor, by the force of circumstances, to leaa towards other changes. The supporters of the old ticket made a fair, square fight for tke wnole or none, and stand as firmly for Mr. Bigelow and Mr. Fairchild as for Mr. Ulcott, The ly member of the present government who evinecs A disposition to work on his own account, independ- ently of his associates, is Mr. Ross, the State Treas- urer, and he bas beon endeavoring to make combina- tions in all directions tor the purpose of securing bis own re-nomination, But outside Mr. [oss all the oid Stato officers and their friends stand by the avsent Sr, Bigel firmly they do by the Comptroller, Who is on the spot. TAMMAXY’S HOSTS. ‘The Tammany delegates who arrived to-day aro anusualiy quiet, and aro bebaving themselves with far more prudence and dignity than the Canal Ringmen with whom the Jortane of politics again throws them in association. Johu Kelly, Augustus Scholl, Thom Dunlop, Mr. Clinton and the other delegates repre- tenting Tammany have keot their own counsel, and talked Very little since they arrived this alternoun; and while they may display more spirit later ia the even- ing they have thus tur been apparently withing to abide quictly whatever decision may be arrived at betore the Convention. ORRISSEY’S PROMISED SUCCESS. made by the HERALD to-day that tie Now York delegates would ve admitted to the Convention as regulur according to their reprosenta- Von onthe State Central Committee, that is to say, shirty-six Tammany delegates and twepty-seven anwi- Tummany, was a staggering blow to the Tammany leaders, ‘They are greatly alarmed at the proposition decause of its: evident tarrness, aod the apparent im: possibility of setting the matter on any other basis; and itis probable tuat Ubeir subdued policy may be designed to prevent its adoption. It ts not Likely, how- ever, that they can do #0. Tne member ot iho Democeatic State.Central Gominittoe 18 the bighest democratic authority ip his disirict, He is placed there vy tho democracy to represent them in the leading democratic yody of the State, 1t would not ve pozsivie that the otifir members of the State Committee cvuld withhold from the member who represents the Albany Congressional District the tickets of the dele- gates from Albany county to the State Convention, and give them to the contesting delegates, Such a thing would be unheard of In hike manner the members of the State Committee repre- senting each Now York Congrossional district 18 entitled to receive the wckews for the delegution trom his district and to give taem tw | the proper partics. The Tammany members ot tho Stave Cominittee will, however, make a desperate fight over this question at the committes meeting, as the itearriod out will seriously intertere with their tulcalations, They have depended on getting bown Tammany aod Anti-Tammany delegations udinitted to the floor aud fighting the battle out in the Convention, hoping by a combination with every deiegaie who has & candidate of his own for wny office to cure envdgh votes under pledges of support. ing that candidate to secure the tinal admission of the solid Tammany delegation. Up to the present moment, while everything ts still uucertain and while ® great maby delegates remain “shady,’’ the chances Beem to lean toward the success of the old ticket, THE OLD TICKET ORGANIZATION. The old ticket men w ot course, more conce: ated 1m their efforts tuan tho new ticket men; tho atter are scattered and divided om’ cundidates, and dave not yet been brought together on 4 settled and United pia, if judeed they ever can be. Tho ‘iMiculty of (hus waking a combined against hes im the tact that favorite candidate tor ‘nd some lor another, but favor tho reaoin ofa portion of the old olticera, While this d! vison of the vjposition exists the chances of beating the old ticket appear to be sight. As the delegates orrive trom the country disir:ets they are aimost cer- twin to Make their Urst visit to the Governor, and in the atmosphere of tue Executive Chamber tuero is a ng ait of singleness of purpose which has a very decided oflect ou the visitors, Governor Robinson takes @ positive position, GOVERSON KOMISSON GIVES HIS VIEWS. The Wyoming and Genesee deiogaies called on him this alternoon, and after some conversation one of them inquired (he Governor's views as to the policy of nominating & HOW Licket or adhering to tho present the old ticket “Btate officers. “My opinion 18,” said the Governor, “that tho issue has veon brought down to the one point whetuer you will continue the policy of tbe Stato adminis: fravion as at present, or return to the oid Ring sysiem, While there are, no doubt, many sincere, disiuterested democrats, Who would like to make hew nominations, and who provably Have favorite can dwates Whose Merits CALG Chel to Support, It is une dentable nat every than who Was opposed to Governor ‘ilden's State policy aud is opposed to mine, 18 tu Laver of seecting Lhe prosent State ofice ubstituring fignt | new men in their places, Some of them call into their aid the services of tae bigi if of the age, and an 4 bim strive to impeach the characters of 10 those ww! oppose their policy. [ do not thik you can reunde the ple that the ‘old State officers, who have Milled their trusts well and honorably, have not been set aside for unworthy pur. | poses if they are defented by such men and through uch agencies; belicve, as the ¢ has been torced upon as, that, rhonld such a change be made, the democracy. Ul Dedofeated in the State in 1879, if not this year,” The Governor was then asked what were his per- sonal wishes on the subject of the vominations, I should, of course, be very glad to have the co- operation for another two years of the gentlemen with whom I have served jor two Lhe Governor, ‘or while there are plenty of able and it democrats with whom I shouid be proud to be assuciated, these gentlemen have experience in their positions, are familiar with all the questions that @re betore the Stato administration, in relation to canal prosecutions and other matters, and of proved capacity, fidelity and honesty. 1 am pot a member of the Convention, and bence nothing to say as to the nominati but when ae views are asked | always speak them frankly and I have nothing to conceal These are iny views, and I have entire confidence that the Conven- tion will act in good faith, tor what it believes td be the best interests of the party.’ ANTI-TAMMANY IN “CONPERENCH’? WITH THE GOVERNOR. The Governor was waited ip also by some of the anti-Tammany delegates, aod one o! them observed that he was charged by Tammany with attempting to dictate to the Conventior The Governor siniled. “Weil, really,” he said, “1 Baye no desire to dictate even if I bad the power to do so, Il bave hoard it charged that Tammany attempts to dictate to the democracy of the State by announcing thas certain 3) oMcers who have done their duty faithtully shall be driven out of oMec. Bat 1am surd these Tammany g men do not intend to dictate and do not imagine that by forcibly expressing their own views on the subject of nominations thoy fare setting themselves up as dictators. They should certainly ullow ine the same privileges they claim for ives, especially as | am to be axsociated with ir State officers now to be chonen for the next year: hen my views are asked I do not hesi- eto give them, but cortainly tho: delega.cs who seek them are just ns (ree to reject nsto accept them.” THR AOUTURRN QUESTION, The Governor was asked hte opinion as to tho ox- pediency of putting in the platiorm a plank expro: ing approval of President Hayes’ Southorn policy. “L Know nothing about expediency,’ replied the “bat I think a party convention, Ii: and what it has to say on any subject that it is necos- sary to tulk about. | believe the democracy severoly condemn the frauds by which the party and the people wero cheated out of the President they fairly elected, 1 belevo that they regard Mr. Hayea, while not fairly elected, you legally seatod under the authority of the action of Congress, and that they would not sauction ay attempt to embarrass his ad- ministration to the injury ot the country. I believe that they approve his prompt recognization of the will of the people, as evidenced by the election of Mr. Tilden, in withdrawing the troops trom the Southern States and endeavoring to initiate admiuistrative re- form, As the democracy believe ail this 1 see no Teason why they should not say it in so many words,” WHAT MONORARLY JOUN THINKS, The discussion, speculation and general gossip of this Convention is far more exciting than that of any Previous State assemblage, Senator John Morrissey did not pat in an appexrance until late im the aiter- noon, He was full of fight and electricity, as usual. ‘The honorable Sonator dees not mince bis worus, nor ttemn pt to combat enemies by any other method than aight-out common sense urguinente. ‘How are matiors looking?” ho was asked, “Woll,”’ said Morrissey, ‘ithe only question now de- Datable, in my mind, 18 Whether or not we will admit Tammany Hall tothe Convention. (This was gaid in a Jocose ineod ns tho left optic of the poweriul Seuator twinkied knowingly.) I hear from ap the fill that Governor Robinsou bas put his toot down effectively and wants to teach Tammany Halla iesson, I mean to go belore thy Committee on Contested seats, if | am appointed as one of the mombers trom my delegation to discharge that duty, und describe tno true inwardness of Tammany Hall. It ts avout time for tho people of the Stuto to understand what a political firobrand 1s among u8 tn the city of New York. Taimn- many Hall went to St. Lows armed tothe tecth with charges against an ominent citizen of its own State— Samuel J, Tilden, This conduct was undemocratic, the nature of the resolutions passed nt ting the delegatcs to the N Convention. There the administration of G ernor Tilden wi vigorously indorsed = and the democracy advised to do a'l in thoir power to secure his nomination for the Presidency, But what did those ‘regular’ democrats of Tammany Hall do when they got to 8t, Louis? Why, they commenced to go back on the positive spirit of the Convention which sent them to assist in naming the Presidontial Standard bearer of their party. This ls ‘regularity ? of a very pectiliar kind indoed,’” “Do you think the ant recoguized by the Convention ?”* “Most undoubtedly. The leading mombers of our organization went to St. Louis and supported Mr. Tilden like good and true democrats, If there is any question of ‘regularity’ in this connection, I think that we undoubtedly have the beat ui she argument.” TAMMANY'S PLANS. Ex-County Clerk William Wuish js bere in the in- tereat of the new ticket. He thinks that there Is ro possible chance forthe remomination of the present Stare officers, aot behvvue that candidaics bucked by Tammany Hall — wilt tho best chances in the Convention. The Tammany doctrine just now is war to the knife against the old ticket. hose who speak tor Mr, Kelly insist apon the nomi- nation of Alien C. Beach tor Secretary of Stato, and Will not under any circumstances take Fairchild tor Attorney Geoeral, They insist wpon it that thoy will not hold up any candidates in the i connected, with the Canal Ring, and that their only fight is against Bigelow aud Fairchiid, ‘Comptrolier Kelly wus to-night asked for his views on the probable uciiun and policy of the Convention, but he refused to be intervieved, as he did not tink it proper at tlis particular time. ‘The gentleman was surrounded by a large crowd of followers trom varios Parts of the State, and had evidoatly buckled on the accoutrements of warfare with his usual solid deter. mination. The lack of harmony among the New York democ- racy i# also the subject of considerable discussion among the delegatcr. ANOTHER REFORM, Ex-Assemblyman James Daly 1s ono of the warm Iriends of Governor Tilden who vigorously supported that gentleman's reform measures 10 the Legislature, In debating the situation this evening he sald, “1 am afraid this political squapbling ia the motropolis will have a demoralizing influence on tho interior Sena- torial districts, What New York wants ubove ail other things is reappointment of the State, that wo may regain our righttal power in the Legisla- tive Council. Governor Robinson must be sustaines He personities the highest aspirations of democracy. His popularity in New York is undoubted. Thero must be no change of issue. Reform was the watcl- word with which he rescued the Stato from republican misrule and really elected a President the United States last year, On that issue we must expect to succeed this fall. 1 look for harmony becauac | don’t believe any man cares to read bimselt out of the dem- ocratic party at the very moment when it 1s about to achieve its greatest victory. MEETING OF THE STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE. Most intense excitement has prevailed here since nine o'ciock over the mecting of the State central Commitiee, at which the tomporary organization of to-morrow’s convention decided on by a many party will be vote of 19 to 14 as follows:--Temporary Chair- man, David B, Hill, of Coemung; Temporary retaries, Bookstaver, of C uqua; D. S nt, of Cortland; Elijab Clark, of Jefferson, immediately atterward a heated discus- S100 @rose On the proposition to give to each member of the State Convention the tickots for his delegation, Mr. Kelly proposed an amendment to admit to tt floor all delegates and contestants without distinction, In tho course of his speech on this he declared that if the policy of the committee prevailed and tne old ticket should be nominated the candidates would be defeated, Mr. Apgar replieu in warm terins, denouncing the attempted dictation of Tammany, Mr. Kelly's amendment was defoated, at hall-past eioven o'clock, by—yens 12, nays 20. Mr. Gordon's motion that the clerk of the committee be directed to issue to each member of the state Committce tickets for the delegates {rom their respective Congressionil districts was carried by a voto of 21 to 11, us tol- ows — D. Veoder, W. ray, Peter bow Fowler, 1". M. Anning, ne, dr: ve vey We A. Apgar, KL Cullds, C,H. Evans, L. Bowen, b. L. For Boaen and W. Purcell. » KYLLY'S TUREATS. Mr, John Kelly did not vote. Betore the vote wos reached the debate waxed hot and furious, Mr. Kelly declared that if the tickets were given to the delegates for distribution he would withdraw from the Convention and leave tho domo- cratic State ticket at ihe mercy of the republicans, with a disorganized democracy in tt y. Ho charged that (ne turee anti-Tammany members of toe Stato Central Committee were bogus and represented No constituencies, they having been puton the State Commities as Tammany Hall men. TAMMANY JOWN ANSWERED, om Mr. EK. Cabill ropiied to tis charge, aud showed by the weords that they were thers as indepondent democrats, He mamtained that they represented a democratic constituency in New York as largo as that of faminany. Mr. Fairchild made a strong specch, insisting that Mr. Kelly was doing injustice to himself | and the constituency he ropresents by threaten- tng to withdraw from the Convention i! the majority ot | tne democrats of the State differed trom nim in their | judgment as to What was right aud just to be done in | & Democratic State Convention, fle did not beiove that the threut would be carried out, as he ucard of its being inado on another occasion LY the same party, but reconsidered on suber second thought. Mr. EK. K. Apgar followesl, and stated that if Mr should carey out his threat ot witodrawal ho did not think he could make a difference of 5,000 in the democratic vote al the State. He could now carry with bim the Tammany cemocracy, which was sound on democratic priveiples and would Lot be takon out of the party by any leader. Ho inquired whether Mr, Koily, thoagat himself the Tammany organization ¢ Mr. Keily replied that he took pride in believing that ho was the organization—in being the recogaized leader oft, Ho imquired warmly whether Mr. Apgar had anything to say about him personally. Mr. Apgar did not repiy. Mr. Faulknor spoke in Sapport of Mr, Kelly, and op- posed the proposition uf Mr, Gordon, Mr, Gordon spono Warmly 1% Support Of bis proposi« tion, ingisting that it sas in accordanes With domo- cratic eustom and fir to ail districts, The member Irom (he district had the right to distribute the tickets, KELLY WaLKs OUT. Betore the iast vou was taken Mr, Kelly rose and an hould speuk out frankly whet it means | | Conversation Mileu the waiting room left the roo The committee adjourned until bait-past,nine o'clock to-morrow morning. OUTSIDE THE CGMMITTRR ROOM the mast intense excitement prevailed, There was but little personal controvorsy, although there was much heated conversation. ‘The old gd anti-Tam cl provided the tick- were distributed as proposed by Mr, Gordon. The committee's action seems to settle the result of the Convention, as with oniy nine majority in the New York delegation, and with Kings nearly solid and Alvany quite solid, tieket men can scarcely hope to pt whole of tne old Stat the old ticket men generally take their first victory very quictiy, while the Tammany men as a ruie retuse to talk or to'state positively what they mtend to do. It 18 contended by the former that the whole bottom has failen out of the plans originated by the Canal Ring und tho other opponents of Governor Tilden, 1b also gives the anti-fammany delegates hope that at part in th least one-half will be allowed to tak coedings of the Convention, “JIMMY?” O'BRIEN, Ex-Sheriff O’Brien and Se: lant in view of tho cheering side of the controversy. Mr. O’Brien arriving at a into time in the evening was surrounded by a circle of friends why parrated to him the news of Tammany’s pro- pect of affairs on their cleat, ‘Well,”’ remarked the young Froe Lance from the Twouty-first ward of Now Y« ‘we must now coe- tend tor the adinission of at least one-hall of our full delegation to the Convention. Senator Bixby smilea ail over with good nature and waudered among the crowd at the Delavan, offering congratulations to tho Iriends of the old ticket, lie lad Just come from the vicinity of the parlor where the State Committeo was in session. ira phat {ace swelled with conscious pride as be sat_on & Jounge in the main vestibule. The preliminary defeat of Tammany was as so mach baim to his eo- thusiaastic feelings. Maygr Ely, in bis usual non-committal way, did not have a word to say one way or the other as to the con- troversy. He arrived from Now York shortly after the State Commitioe went into session, DIFFERUNCKS AMONG KELLY’S DELEGATION, The inany delegation met at hali-past seven o'clock this evenin, their headquarters In the Dei- avan House, Augustus Schell presided, The deie- gates were ouly a few minutes in consultation. The contestapis from the First, Third, Six- teenth aud Tweuty-Orst districts were heard, William H. Rooney distinguished nimseif by a boisterous speech, in which he asserted that he was not going to be ousted by Aldermen Sieveu or any other man, He was buttonholed immediately and pacified. The sub- commitiee of five appointed to investigate the claims of the contesting dciegates will roport to the caucus of the entire delegation at halt-past nine o'clock to- morrow morning. The liquor interost has put tn au appearance to-night Jn the suapo of a delegation, headed by Mes ra, Hoary Cunningham and Henry Uinusen, Jr, of New York, Tepresenting (ho wine, spirits aod ale producers. They come tolay belore the Stato Convention a pe- tition asking tor the insertion of a plank Im the plat- form of the Convention acknowledging tho necossity of aproper Excise law throughout the State. stated by them that Governor Robinson approves of their mission, THe TICKET, ‘The prominent candidates mentioned for the varior offices are as follows:—Secrotary of Siate—Ailen C. Beach, John Bigelow, Judge Wheaton, Attora.y Gen- erai—A. P, Fairchild, Seaator Schoonmaxer and Sena- tor Starbuck, A. P. Lanning, William A.” Poucher, George F. Comstock. Kveryuody veoms to coucedo that Mr, Olcott, tho present Comptroller, wil he re- nominated, as well as State Treasuror Charles N. Rose. ALLEN C, BLACH CONTRADICTS TUR MILEAGE CIARGHS. The charges that Allen C. Beach, a prominent can- Gidato or Secretary of State, received illegal toes while acting as Lieutenant Governor were positively denied to-day by that gentleman in an Interview with the HkxALD corresponuent, “How as to these charges ?’’ he was asked, “L cam pronounce them unqualitiedly false as far as the statement goes that anything Was intended or avy. Miegal moneys obtained by me in my position as ez- oficio mewver of the Bourd of Commissioners of the Cunal Fund aud Land Office, 1 never charged a single dollar for mileage, excet where | had pefiect au- thority for so doing, in travelling trom Albaay to Watertown and buck, Tho insinuation is also made shat I prevented a bill for ve such journoys duriug 6 noglo jon of tho Legisiature, { do not kuow recollect the exuct figures; but this branch of the attack 13 «leo easily explained. Ii might aeems strange 10 the uninformod that mileage should be paid at this pariioulur period of the year whoa | Was suppused to be present in Albany, but it must bo recollected thas frequent recesses are taken by the Legislature, and tt was during these intervals that it became necessary for me to travel. This lea very small matter, indecd, and | don’t know tbat | am culiod upon to explain away such talschoods, except that tn Justice to my friends some contradiction ought to be sent “Pbis mileage was then regulated by statute?” “Certainly, but it has been sinco abolished. Thore 18 no douvt as to its absolute legality. All my prede- tessors, I think, did the same thing, and Governor Robinson, when Comptroller, nevor refused to pay the bila = L think that all my expenses while Lieutenant Governor were much teas thau many of my predecus- 7 DELEGATES ELECIKD FROM BUFFAIO, Burvata, N, ¥., Oot, 2, 1877, The following dctogatesto the Domoocrasiq.Conyen- tion were elected from the Fourth Assembly district, Erie connty:—E, &, Hall, Joseph Holloway ana N. B. Gatcnell, DEPARTURE OF THE TAMMANY AND ANTI-TAM- MANY DELEGATES YOR ALBANY—SCENES AT THE GRAND CENTRAL DEPOT—POLITICAL AMENITIES, The Grand Contral Depot was allve yesterday morn- ing with the hosie of politicians preparing to aepart for Albany to attend the Democratic Convention. Tho first train, at eight A, M., took away the leader of Tammany Hall, Johu Kelly, who was accompanicd by Henry L, Clinton, Augustus Schell, General Smalley, Frederick Smytt ward Keurney, Sherit Roilly, Thomas Dunlap, Edward D, Gale aad Wilham B. Fin- ley. On tho same train anti-fammany, in the persons of Senator Bixby, Emanuel #B, Mart and Nelson J. Waterbury, was represented. | Besides thess there were some filty or sixty friends of tho delegates who were going up to the Covvention for the fun oft the thing, The Tammany Sachems were all to themscives in one corner of « drawingroom car and the anti-Tammany wise men sat in another corner of the same car, ‘The favorite train, nowever, was the 10:30 A. M. express, Half an nour before it ieft the ponticians had already assombled in sufficient force m the waiting room of the Hadson River road to indicate that the Convention was an affair of considerable in- terest, Lieutenant Governor Dorsheimer aod Sonator Jobu Morrissey were conspicuous in the throng by their bulk and stature, aod the latter was an object of kreal curiosity to the awailing passengers Who were bound tur other paris than Alvany and on other bu ness than politics, The Lieutenant Governor was full of animation and Spuke in a sanguine spirit about the renomination of w old ticket, Morrissey, Bixoy, Hart and other anti- wmmMany nen agreed with Dorsheimer that the old Licket was “goud enough,” and probavly that cunvic- tion was tos jurge exient based upon the fact that it was a distasteful une w Taminany, A large bus, of wad much hang- shaking and Iriendly greetings prevailed volore iho tine of departure drew near, The mombers of ihe coutestiug delegations within’ Tammany Hall eyed each olwer With Ho particular cordiality, and wheu any Teniarks were passed betweon toem they Incked tue of trienuiiness and Christian ena i blowhard aud a sucker like you’? sas the em- Pphatic as#ertion of one member of che split delegation from the First district 10 another, No,’’ was the respouse, “'yon’re so litle of auy- thing that you wouldn't bring a cent a pound ato Junk sale.” nis imterchange of social amenities led to nothing more s#rivus than an angry flash of the eye of a scorulul curi of tue lip. RIVAL DELEGATIONS, Judge Quinn, woo views “with alaram” the spread Of the German element in this country, constituted, with Edwand Burke and Judge Dedly, the presumed regular Tammany delegation, and the irregular wus composed of Nicholas Ma: Heary Campoolt and Thomas Betweou tuom was shared all the concentra cal bilterness of the First Asscmbly district, W been growing im intensity for tne past year aud promises ty keep fresh for some time tu come, On the plavorm of the depos anotner exchange of compliments happened, afver this fashion Campbell to Quinn—O! you're au old tub o? tallow, all grease and uo Quinn to Campbell—Be me conscience, me boy, a tub o! tallow any day is Vettuer thau a bag O° bones. Lbese encounters between tue irate politicians vf tne First gave intoite amusement to the anti-famimauy men, Who rejoiced beyond ineasure Ww sce such a spirit Of dissension in the rauks of their cuemy. ‘The split deiegeuon of the Third disitiet consisted of J. J. slevin, William R, Roberts and Michael Burke on the one haud, aud D. O'Reilly, Wiiliam H, Roooey und J. J. Sweeney on ihe other, Toe satter, (hough expetied ata meeting of the members of the’ General Cowmitioe of tue Tuird district, will maintuin at Al- bany their right to receguition on the grounds that the committee has no AuLHOFILy Lo expel them, The divided delegativn from the Fitth district con- sisiou of Henry A. Guableton, KR, dleade aua Petor Mitcnell, claiming to be the regular, and Thomas C. Knox, A. L. Brener and Louis ©, Brava, claiming to De the same, While the auti-Tammany deicgates pro- Served LuWard each other A certain dogres of courtesy the rival delegations within the Tammany fold wore almost disposed to come up to blows, tMlusirating & Old saying, (hat no quarrel 18 0 bitter ass family one. Tucre were two other divided delegations, thoro from the Sixteenta and Twenty-tirse d the former consisting of Kdward Cooper, John Cioaguen and Jas. Sinith. poli iggivs, of the fret part, and B. i. Gaul, Philip Avearn and John Mull of the second, latter of Thomas Pierson, Charles Plac Harnet, on oue side, and Hugh BH. Moore, Hitebman and Joseph V. Fusion on the other, The Just’ mentioned divided delegation took rank in point ol mutual resentment with that of the First district, and gall and wormwood wore liberally infused into the 8 (hat passed between itsmeinbers. When the rot under Way With 11s SIX drawing room, ars and peseenger coaches, aud tte freight of over Su0 potiuicians, 1 MIght be sald Laere Was As IyUch exp material O4 bunt as it Was Safe Lor the Fait. rouil to earry. PLACID ANTI-TAMMANY, ‘The anti-Taintoany crowd wax wonderfully calm and soll-contained, Morrisscy was as gentio as @ lamb and Lt is | NEW YORK HERALD, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER: ¥, 1877.-TRIPLE SHEET miled like a goraph upon the host of lis ene- Ira Shater, James O’Bricn, Jenkins Vao Sehaick, Joseph Shannon, Andrew H. Green, Maicol Campbell, Roswaii. ). Hateh, und M. C, Murphy made up the anti-Tamnmany galaxy thot ulled one end of a drawingroow carion the train. Between them and the Tammany men the bitter of opposing politi- cians began before tne tr: ed and was no doubt kept up to the end of the journey. Hose McLaughiin, of Rrookiyn, atthe hoad of one delegation, and another Brooklyn politician the heal of a different one, were aboard, There leit at the fame time various mombers of the Liquor Dealers and Brewers’ Association, whose object is to go before the Convention sad ask that vouy to tneert in tts platform ® clause luvoring a just and impartial excise law. 1a the event x o'clock, & Bost of retainers of Tammany Hall, provided with iree passes, boardca the steamer Drew and started ov the might trip to Ai- Bixby mies, o'clock, to lend their cheering presence to the Con. ventiol REPUBLICAN NOMINATIONS, A CONVENTION AT CONKLING’S HOME, Rome, N. ¥., Oot. 2, 1877. Tho Republican Convention tor the county of Oneida was held tn Rome to-day. This is the home of Senator Conkling and the Convention was con- trolled by) his... eupporters. the Convention nominated for State Senator Mr, Gridioy, ot Waterville, who will vote for Senator Conkling Jor United star Senator, resolutions reported. 3. dorsement of President £ hail opposed it, Vons, There was a fight over the Lowery advocated the in- es and Mr, H. J. Cogges- The opposition curried their resolu. TWENTY-SECOND SENATORIAL DISTRICT. Sraacuss, N. ¥., Oot 2, 1877, The republicans of the Twenty-second Senatorial district renomtnated Hon, Dennis McCarthy for state Sonator to-day. Ina speech accepting tho nomina- tion Senator McCarthy denounced President Hayes’ civil service order, THE ANTI-CONKLING MEETING. New York, Oct. 2, 1877, To tux Eotror ov tux Hrrany:— From the account which you publish this morning of the procecdings of the meeting held at the Union Leaguo Club last evening, as well as from that which appears in other journals, it would seem as though I had been guilty of discourtesy toward the committco of the club calling the meoting. As such was not the case I desire to state that 1 called at the club house before the hour of meeting and saw a prominent mem- ber of the elub, trom whom I had recoived a personal note, and which 1 took to be my invitation to attend, Having ascertained from this geoticman that the meeting was not’ called for cousultation, but for the purpeso of. carrying into effect’ a fixed plan, stated that, such being the case, | Preferred Hot attending, wt the same time expressing my thanks for the invitation. | stated Lo the gentio- man my reasons. . 1 could not but feel tho proposed mags meeting to be unnecessary ani likely to be moro productive of harm than ot good. The policy of the administration js indorsed not only by the great muss Of repubitoans, but aso by a large portion of the demo- cratic voters both North and South. It will, 1 believe, Tecelve a support in the next Congress and in boil houses, unequivocal and decisive, 1t will assert itself, and, for one, I earnestly hope that its practical work. ings may realize to the failest extent that which its most earnest advocates claim and all hope for. The Wedge inserted into the republican ranks ought not to be turtherdr:ven in, The untortunate developments at the Rochester Convention, and which are tho causes for the present action at tho Union Leagus Club should, I believe, have been ict alone, Muddied water bad botter bo left to settie—the stirring process only thickens, LLOYD ASPINWALL, KINGS COUNTY REPUBLICAN Ss. A regular session of the Kings County Republican General Committee was held last oveung at ther headquarters in Brooklyn, A resolution was pussod indorsing the State nominations, Upon recommend- on of the Executive Committec primaries wero called to be held in the several wards and county towns ou Tuesday, Octodor 16, The City Convention will be held on Friday, Octopor 19; the County Cunvention op Uctober 20, und the Second and Third Senatorial Distriot conventions Uctober 23, The Assembly con- Vontivns wero set Gown for Thursday, the 25th inst, ORGANIZING M'CLELLAN CLUBS. Eleven meetings were held in Hudson county, New Jersey, last evening, to organize McClellan clubs. At the ney House, corner of (irand and Communipaw avenues, Jersey City, a meeting of prominent demo- ordts of the Sixth district wos held, and it was ro- solved to,ralse « McClellan banner to-morrow ovening, A clul’named the Kearney Club was organized. A MeCie) was organized in the Third district at Hilber’s Hall, on Seventh street, Aunotber club was formed in the Fourth prociact of the Filth di: at Emporium Hall, Harrison avenue, with William Brinkerboff, ex-Assombiyman, as president, and Sain- uol C, Nolgon, City Comptroller, as vico ‘prosident, Throe meetings were beld in the Socond district alo: and committees were appointed to collect fuuds for tno Purchaso of unifurms, General McClellan hes ac- copted honorary membership in tho Abbett Light Guards, a flourishing organization in the First district, David Dodd, the MeClelian champion at the Trenton Conveution, bas beon invited to speak at a mass meet- ing to be hold next week in Jersey Cuy. Fifty-seven men, inost of whom are repuvlicans, have been en- rolled in the Veteran Soldiers’ Cluv of the First and Third districts in favor of McClellan, GEORGIA STATESMEN, ALEXANDER H. STEPHENS AND GENERAL ROBERT 100MDS IN NEW YORK. Hon, Alexander H. Stephens, of Georgia, is stopping at the residence of Mr. A. J, Johnson, in Kast Sixty- fourth street, Tho veteran statesman, who nas been so actively identifed with both Northern and Southern history both in tho national counseis and as Vico Presi« dent of the Confederacy during the rebellion, was vis- ited yesterday afternoon by a Henao reporter, but dc clined to spenk ut presoat about the political situation. Mr, Stephens does not, however, nesitate to avow bis commendation of President Hayes’ Southern policy, and thinks he is an honest and patriotic man, whom the conservatives of both sections will indorse. Mr. Stephens, although much improved in health, 1s yet very weak and unable to atana without the aid of crutches, paid a visit in the morning to tbe office of Mes-rs, Halo & Son, in Murray street. He was ac- companied by Mr. Jobn Stephens, of Atlanta, Ga, General Robert Toombs was found at tho New York Hotel, but he told the reporter thut at present he did not caro to talk avout the politics! situation. He was really tired of polities, ile remarked that his object in paying « visit 10 New York purely personal, His eyes seemed’ to be failing, und he intended to undergo treatment for their beneit, He was sur- rounded by a number of (riends, and eeemed to be in good health and spirits, OBITUARY, REV, HENRY CLAY ¥ISH, D. After an illness of several mouths’ duration Rov, Dr. Fish, one of the best koown Baptist clergymen in America, and for ovor twouty-six yoars pastor of the First Baptist Charen of Newark, died at his residence there yesterday afternoon Mr. Fish was born in Halifax, Ve, January 27, 1820, His father, Samuel Fish, still alive at the advanced age of ninety, is a clergyman, The deceased wasa graduate of Union Theological Seminary, New York, and first entored the miuistry as pastor of a Baptist church im Somor- ville, From there, twenty-seven years ago, he rem to Newark and became pastor of the First Church there, He Wasa man of varied talents, an energetic and very active revivalist and (he uuthor ot several roliious works. During the war he was a most active Union advocate, and it is noteworthy (hat his church furnished several full companies of volun- toers lor the army besides quite a number for the navy. fis death has boen louked tor tor several days, D MAJOR GEORGE H. QUAKTERMAN. Major George H. Quarterman died at Flushing, L. I., yesterday, at the age of iifty. He was Captain of Com: pany ©, Filth Regiment, General Sickles’ Brigade, during the war, and received five wounds at the battle of Williamsburg. Ho was promoted to tho rank of Major for bravery, but his wounds prevented him trom doing farther service. On nis retura home he was inade Deyuty rrovost Marshal, and afterward Postmaster of Fiusbiog. PRINCESS SKIKAN, OF JAPAN. The Japanese Lmperial Princess Soikan died Septem. ber 2,19 Namiye, She wasa sister of the late Em- peror aud aunt of the present one, and, for reasons of State, was married, Some years betore the overthrow of the great Tokugawa faintly of Siogunsto, four. teenth upd Jast Tycoon of Yeddo, since deposed, and now living iu seclusion In the interior, was made her son by adoption, Her remains will be laid with those of her husband in the famous Lemple Shiva Toko, ove of the two chosen burial places of the Tokugawa, House, RICHARD HAYS, Mr. Richard Hays, Prosident of the Iron City National Bank, diod at Pittsburg, Pa., yestorday morning, aged BIXty-tWo years, LEWIS LILLIn. Lewis Lillio, the invontor and manufacturer of sates, died at his residence, in Elizabeth, N. J., yostorduy, UNABLE TO ESCAPE, Kate Goodsoll, a young girl of eighteen, who was a prisonor at the House of Mercy, tot of East Kighty- BIRtH Btroel, attempied to escape yesterday, and 11 80 doing fell vo the ground and roceivod fatal injuries, bany. where they will arrive this morning about Sve | | ire | of ho ding GIGANTIC. FORGERIES. | Quarter of a Million in Raised Scrip Certificates Discovered." THREE TIMES AS MUCH SALD 10 BE AFLOAT. The Manner in Which the Frauds Were Perpetrated. AN ENTENPRISING INSURANCE BROKER A sories of astounding frauas, perpetrated in this city, was Drought to light yesterday, the amount of the Jorgeries aggregating $250,000. On Monday two “certificates of profits,” or insurance scrip, of the At- jantic Mutual Insurance Company, No. 51 Wall street, were presented at the company's office tor authenti- cation, They had been issued to William C, Gilman, an insurance broker at 31 ine street, and pur. Ported to represeat $10,000 exch. Mr. Giiman bore an excellent reputation. Business men who knew lim hau the most unboundea vonfidence in him, and his word, to use an old fashioned phrase, was considered As good as bis boud, When the certificates were pre- sented to she insurance company by tho Third National Bank no question as to thetr genuineness had been ratsed, but an examination uf the books of the com- pany revenied the fuct that originally theso certi- ficates were issued for only $100 each, TALMADGE & CO.’8 LOAN TO GILMAN, The discovery was un astounding vac, and could only lead to one conclusion, that the respectable broker, Mr, an, Was engaged in “raising” certia- cates of the Atlantic Mutual Insurance Company trom iticunt sums to large amounts. Voloped the fact that these raised’? certificates bad been negotiated with Henry Talmadge & Co., Mr, Gile man borrowing npon them and $4,000 f other securi- Wes tne eum of $15,000, Talmaage & Co, aamit a loss Of $14,000 by the transaction. Moro than this they will not say. If they had not desired to hypothecate the certiticates with the Third National Bank, instead them longer a8 security for the loan to Gilinan, the forgeries would not have deen discovered at least at this time, and so the successful forger might havo cscuped a while longer the discovery of the starting sories of trands which created such a profound jmpression in Wall atrect yesterday, As it was tno presentation of the certificate tor authentication In the orainury course of business led to the revelation of the boldest series of frauds over perpetrated tn toiscity, What is more re- markablo even than the forgerics is tho manoer in which they wore executed, A glance at them ought to bave shown their traudulent character, aud bad it not been for Mr. Gilman’s bignh charactor and uncxeeption- able standing the “raised” certificates would nover have been accepted by Taimadgo & Co. as roal securi- ties. A common eraser had been used in obliterating the words “‘one huadred”’ in the certificates, and after rosin or some similar substance haa been applied 10 the orasure the phrase “ten thousund’? was written in, Anything moro clumsy {t is impossible to tmagine, and nobody can be more surprised that they were do- ceived by it than Talmadge & Co. OTHER FRAUDS DISCOVERED, It soon turned out, however, that these frauds of which Talmadge & Co, wore the victims were only a part, and a very small part, of the forgeries committed by Gilman, Yosterday moruing ten cortifivates pur- porting to have becn issued by the same company fur $87,820 wore sent im for oxamination by the American Exchange Bank, Tho examination of the Atlantic Mu- tual’s books showed that these certificates bad 1 fact beon issued for only $1,260, They were all small in amount, the largest being for $500, while the others wore for $50, $90 und $100 cach. Theso cepstficates were also issued to William ©, Gilmag, ‘The ount of tho iraads had now reashed Pons Cand. the possibinties or Suriner revelations wore becoming iliimitable, It known of all men that n wae a doalor kinds of scrip, especially in tho serip of the Atl Mutanl, and there was no telling how many of th “raised” certificates he had put upon the market. His capacity in aggrogating small sums into vast amounts was now beyond question, and with his faciii- tues for ‘placing’ bis “securities was not vasy to prodict whore no would stop. It was plain, however, that tho rather magnificent sum of $107,320 had nardly. Satisfied hig ambition, and a reporter of the Hanato was sent to make inquiries Into thuge interesting pos- sibilities, ALXICE LITTLE “RaraK.”? “We have information,” said Mr, Jobo D. Jones, the President of the Atinutic Mutual [nsurauce Company “ol another set ol these certiticates which have been Taised {rom ouly $330 to $25,000, Like the others, there had been issued to Wiliam C. Gilman, the groat certiicate raiser seeiniag bo proior hix own to other Heoplo’s names on the altered securities, probably be- cause the weignt of bis name and bie well kuown business probity were his must powerlul alas ia nelarious practices in winch he was enguged. haines of tho holders of these cortificates could net ve ascertained with any degree of certainty, but it was Assumed, Without any reason it appears, that this nice Little ‘raise’ way perpetrated upon the Third National Bank, aud it was generally understood yesterday al- fternoon that it was Me, Gilman's victim to the tune of tometning like $30,000, (he story apparently was ut any foundation, but the contrary was asserted ay quarters, There xeemod to ve little doubt that ive bauk has lost heavily by Gilman’s operations, Such, at least, was the understanding in the best in- furmod business circles yosterday. At the bauk the oflicers were all exceedingly roticont. Mr. Jordan, the casbier, declared that he knew nothing about the mat- ter and more than thishe could not be induced to say, His general denial did not bave the effect of doing away with the impression that the Thir ational was among Gilman’s victims and the $30,000 story was kopt in pretty active circulation all the afternoon and evening. | THIRD NATIONAL BANK. Mr. J. F. D. Laugier, tho president of the Third Na- Hoval Bank, was found at his house in West Teuth | Stroct last evening Ina very enfeebled conaitiuo. ite has voen unable to go down town for three weeks past, but had been inforimed of Lhe conuition of affairs, and says emphatically that tbe bank loses nothing by the Jorgery. The relation of the bank to the forgery is thus stated by the az oO & Co., who held two cer Lnsurance Company, wine: hat been bypothecated | with then by Gilman’ representing on theie face $20,000, applied to tho Third National Bank tor a loan | tein of $15,000. The oilicors of the bank 4 liking the. nee of the certificates went them to th urance company 10 see if all was right, and it was thea learned that they bad been “raised’? trom $100 each to $10,000 each, The certificates were returned to Talmadge & Co. and, us | ie stated, this was Lhe only connection the ‘Third Na- tional hat with the forgery, The president and Mr. Parker Handy, one of the directors, state that tere 1 no truth in the rumor that the bank ba n hea losers. Said Mr, Hanuy, “*Phroaxh govd fortune ad the careiuioess of our officers wo are not losers one | penny.’? AN “INSTITUTION'S'’ SPLENDID FIGURES, Up to four o'clock the amvunt ot the swindlos as far as ascertained, was $152,320, but about that hour it Was rumored that President Jou information of itioual trands. It turned out that aime addivonal cortiticates had beon sent in for examibation and that the ulteravons on these, which were issued oF $1,400, aggresated $74,000. Figures as 4 rule are une Interesting aud tabulated statements dull reading, but '$ operations in altering scrip ceriiieatos following exhibit of the 6 lumperou With Lhe-e Hive pieces of 4 their value to meet his own necesui- Certificate tor + $90 “raised” to. Gertiticate tor. “rarwed?? to. 7,000 Certificate for. 300 “raised? to, 3000 Cortiteate for. ‘wined? to. 5,000 Certibente for... aised’? to, 10,009 Certificate tor ‘aised”? to, 10,000 Certificate for, aimed”? to, 10,000 Certiticate for, Faisea’? to, 10,000 Certificate for... 100 “raised"? to, 10,000 Totals seese ee 81460 ‘This, 1t must be coniossed, is splendia figuring, but Wheo Mr. Jones was asked who the $74,000 victin ” $74,000 wus ho declined to tell, saying it Was an “instal ‘The word was singularly chosen, but it was uot with- oUt 18 Suggestivon wwution, he said, und not a bani 8, company 7" ked One of the anxious repurters who were besieging the Atiantic Mutual Compuny Mee tor hows. “I capnos tell you, genticmen,” persisted the persistent Mr. Jones, “you can draw your own conetu. sious.’’ President Jones’ iniorimation, upon which a conclasion wus to be based, it bad to ve confessed, was hot very precise, ‘Tbe word “institution” i4 a ‘little too comprehensive to bare anything like a “guess” Everything 10 this country 1s an ‘institution’ na tram toa millionnaire and from a peanut stand to 4 bank,” reasoned tho HkRALD nan, “altnough Where $74,000 i8 concerned there are’ lrtations & good Many genuino institutions out of the question, It must have been a trust company, tor 4 trust company is about the only kind of ‘nstitution | that would be able to loan or lose $74,000 on raised cerufeatos,”” The conclusion was inevilabie that a (rast company Was meant, and Mr. Jones’ due Dious shake wt tue head cootirmed that the Ory. tw Was @ (rust company,” reasoned the HeEKaLD man again, “wu There are ouly two wick a por- fou of Mr, Gilman's astuteness would bo likely to se lect tor his purposes, Ho was a weil known figure in 3 ‘business les—a sort of fixture among downtown business men, and most of Dis transactions took place in the aeigndorheed of his ollices. Talmadgo & Vo, are at No. 39 Vine street, only four doors from Gile man’s office, The Third National Bank i at No, 29, The American Exchai way, within Auantic Mutual round the cor United States building. negotiate bis ‘raised’ securiti Company, or, like the bold bravely take b: Insurance Company is in =Wall street, and Trast Company 16 \v the in the same Did Gilman go turther down the stroct and with the Union Truss that he was, dia ho \¢ Foof where he wat accustomed to UAnC® serip be- fore raising !t to the proportions thought t ought to attain’’? The reader, like the reporter, 18 necos- sarily left to draw his own conclusions; but os the officers of both the (rust companies strenuously deny that they had any dealing with Gilman, the question 1$no nearer a solution than before, notwithstanding the, ingenious inquiry which Mr. Jones | aweted, GILMAN'S OPERATIONS. And this little table will show Mr. Gtimat pera. tions in a still moro interesting tight, He ts credi on the books of the Atlantic Musual Insurance Com- pany with twenty-seven certificates. Of these all exe cept three have been accounted for, and the twenty« four certiteatos which have come back have come im four different series, and with the folowing amazing resulls:— Aggregate Amonnts Amounts to ‘umber of Jor Which They Which They Certificates. Were Issued. Were Kaised, P $200 $20,000 Msoce ons ree $3,300 $208,376 So for us has been discovered, then, the forgeries Axgregate $206,370, and taking tho three outsanding ceriificates upca the busis of Gilman's other opera. tony, his frauds will be likely to reach about $230,000, and will certainly not exceed unless it should be discovered that he bas ‘raisea’’ other peo- ple’s certificates as as his own, 118 tho opinion, of Mr, Jones, the resident, aud of the other officera of the Atlantic Mutual Insurance Company, that such 16 not the cise, Giiman’s operations seem tu be conflued to his own certificates, and to have been managed by himseit, although on these points opinions differ. cently Le has been buying serip at what we ered surpr prices, when it Is considered bow lou, most of it ‘© run boiore it will be paid, aud in the Opinion of some of the moat experiences men in the Sireet those disclosures aro only the veginning ofa Serics of discoveries, 1t may bo that ho bas used big Teputation a8 an honest man to place “raised” certid- cates on the market in enormous amounis, and in this Viow the opinion of sone of the leading business mea io Wall street has beon consulted. ov 8 OF PRESIDRNT COR, George S, Coe, President of the American ixenange Bank, statod to the HxraLp reporter that if auy rehauee can be placed on the rumors that are on every~ body's Nps the extent of tue forgeries must bo enormous; that the losses will probably run up to $700,000 of $800,000, and that many banking houses, iusuraoco companies and loaners of money have beon victim io the New England States ax well as 1m the city of New York. Ho sald that judging from the boldness of the operation it ta probable that the men cagaged in it were old and trained hands at the business und that tt was anlikely that one man could have carried turough such # su. pendous job. Tho President's tace wore a look of calin Tesignation as be added, “You may look for extragr. dinary developments when it once becomes kuown to the public that stocks standing 1u tho name of William C. Gilman requires to be SKETCH OF GILMAN'S LIPK. Ono of the directors of the Third National Bank, Who Was at one time its assistant manager aud who has been a life long triend of Gilman, Was met last evening by wHkRALD reporter, — For obvic ho expreased a desire that his namo should not be pub- lished. While this gentieman gavo a sketch ol Gk man’s lilo tars rose repeateuly to his eyes, He spoke sabstantially ax follow: The firmof William C, Gilmaa & Son was one of the oliest and most rospected bouses on the street en- gaged in the business of brokers in insurance sorip. The senior member of the firm died some thirieen years ago, and tho son, whoin bis father's lifetimo was known as William C, Giltnan, Jr., carried on tbe business under the old firm = name. The son js the person who makes such an unén viable figure inthe ~— present —distressin, business, The family come from Connecticut, an some of Gilman's relatives hold bigh aad rceapoasibie Positions in various parts of New England at the Presout time. Gilman ts connected by murriuge with one of the tirst Jamies in Hartford, His wite and several children are living. His ago is about forty years; be isa tall, slim man, with gentlemanly car- riage and demeanor and is highly educated. He was simple to ‘18 habits, refined anu cultivated, bad no and was the last inage 5 ‘ousid. who kuew him, and Since his father’s death be ‘carrieu on the business ta ® manner that kept the house fully up tothe uigh Standard to which It had been raised. [Ho was tnod- erate in his style of living. Tho gentleman added wita much pathos, ‘I can’t beliove be tas done this disgraceiul act, ana yet it scems impossible tn view of the facts to think otherwise, It may be that he met lvsses tn bis business, aod in a moment of de: poration be resorted to this device for the purpose of keeping his bead wbovo water, in hupes that by & turn of fortune ho might be able to right matters again without letting tte world kuow of bis disgrace, If this-ormme can be fastened on him many & heart ta New Mnglaud will (roo violew GUALAN’S WIREALOOTS. Gilman went to Norwich, Coon., on Saturday last, but he returned to the cltyon Monday, and was inst seen early yesterday morning. Wheu ho was wanted, however, he could uot be found, althoagh he was ob- served to enter his house as Inte as eleven o'clock A. M. Steps were taken to secure lin arrest, and th of Detective Elicr adge & Co- and somo of the other victiins of nds He bas not been at his oMee since Suture Ad the old clerk who was thero yesturday and has been long in Gilman's employ, seemed at- terly broken down over the disgrace aud ‘shame of bie employer, He could give no iniormation in regard to Gilinah's transactions, and of curse protuundiy ignorunt of his movements, “ralsed?’ certificates have al! been issued since 1875 and in many of them the power of attorney wag iu Mr, Gilman’s handwriting. “KAISED BANK" STOCK. Among the rumors of the street yesterday was one to the eifect that Gilman had “raised” some bank stock as wel! as serip certillcates ‘The specitic al gaton was that he bad ‘raised’ # certificate tor shares of bank stock to filiy sharos aud another cei Uficate for six Bhares to sixty shares. Great efforts were made to conceal the name of the bank, but it wag an open secret that the bank In question was the American Exchange Ban ANOTHER DEFAULTER, Lawnexce, Mass., Oct, 2, 1877, Goorge R. Waterman, a clerk In the Pacitic Sill hore und connected with tho corporation for twenty years, is alleged to be a delaulter for $50,000. An ox- amination of the accounts develops a positive dis- crepancy of at least $50,000 betweon the actual pay roll of tho bills and the amouat drawn by Waterman from the treasurer in Boston, It having boon tue cur tom of the former to alter the footings of the pay roll, making a requisition for ap increased amount, Water= man owns considerable property and will make good the detaication in case the affair is kept out of the courts. THE LATE JOHN DISTURNELL Tho following tribute to the late John Disturnell was paid by Mr. C, Roosevelt at a meoting of tho pho» tograplic section of the Ameriean lustitute beld Jest evening. He eatd;— Ma, Paesivext ax Gextiemex or tHe D FROTOGRAPHICAL SociRTY oF THE TUTR—I rise to wl case has beon placed in the hand by Tal iw Yorn lyst AMnnCaN the Advancemont of Science and Art nod of the American Geographical Society and various other in- stiutions of Lhis city and author ot various literary and xeientific works which have rendered bis name us familar as housshold words wherevor maps or diagrams are used to give the huvigator OF Ube traveller nocessary in Jobu Disturneli ni Jabor:, but bis works romain. He was lounders of the American G phical Society and alxo of the New York society tor the Advancement ot Sevence and Art, and it was chiefly turougy his iofe- ence that Prolossur Agassiz gave bis very popular iu this Daiiding, by which that learnod watu- known. per ly tO our citizens, vne of founders of the Indeed bo was oy the Nibrary of the American Lnstituie Qud indefatigavie in pusbing on his anxious for success than profit, Ho has done mach good, He now may rest. Let us houor his memory, Allow me, therefore, to offer a resolu. tion that wil of the various associations with which ho was conuected and ali who may respect his works bo invited to attend his funeral, As to the ume and Pliner, the public will be notified as usual, Such a resvlution was adopted. THE HUDSON KIVER TUNNEL, The Hadson River Tunnel Company won another tris urmph yesterday in the Cireuit Court at Jersey City. lt will be remembered that tho commissioners ap. pointed by the Sapreme Court assossed the damages aud value of land of the Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Kailway Company to bo used by the tunnel company at $24,000. Against this award the tunnel company Aappeaicd, and tho case be beiore a jury since lust Thursday, A verdict was reu- dered yesteruay, reducing the vaiue of land and dam ages to $7,000, Tho trial of the appeal agaist tue award to the Jersey Shore Limprovemont Company wat set down tor the 16th inst, The President of tho Had son River Tuonel Company, Goionel Haskin, is quite led with tho verdict of the jury. banceliot mson and cx-Attorney General Vanatta con. dueted (he argaments ou eitner sido, The jury were out two hours THE EMIGRAN’ SAVINGS BANK, New York, Oct. 2, 1877 To tax Epiton ov tar Hreaio:— As an admirer of Judge Hackott's charge to tne Grand Jury as regaras ravings banks, I would suzgost inquiry a8 to tho prosent course ot the trustees of the Emigrant Industrial Savings Bonk in, swary to the prosident, woereas the merly holding (nat position never received a perny of Temuneration, and managed its alfairs fully as well, D&POSITO!