The New York Herald Newspaper, December 9, 1876, Page 3

NEW YORK HERALD, SATURDAY, DECEMBER 9, 1876.—T THE OREGON’ ELECTORS Excitement in Washington Over Governor Grover’s Action. BEVOLUTIONARY PURPOSES HINTED AT. Views of Leading Republican States- men on the Situation. FRANK EXPRESSION FROM MR. FERRY. The Presiding Officer of the Senate Author- ized to Count the Vote. THE WATTS ELECTORS TO BR PREFERRED. Senator Morton on the Course To Be Pur- sued by the Senate, GOVERNOR'S ACTION APPROVED AT HOME. [ynom OUR SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT. ] Wasuinctow, Dec, 8, 1876, * Governor Grover, of Oregon, has caused more ex- eitement here than he probably anticipated + Tho em- barrassment of the extreme republicans continucs * Very great and they cannot conceal their annoyance. On Wednesday evening, when what bad happened in Oregon became known here, it was at once proposed by some hotheaded republicans that the Senate should refuse to mect the House fer a count, as the conatitation directs, and this wild project has since been seriously discussed. A NRW REPUBLICAN DEVICE, ‘To-day a new device turned up—namely, that if the slection falls into the House the republicans shall ab- sent themselves, and thus leave the House without a constitutional quorum for this purpose, of a member or members from two-thirds of the States. An even- ing paper, which sometimes expresses the wishes or opinions of prominent republicans, throws out the fol- Jor ‘ints on this matter: — MINTS FROM 4 WASHINGTON PAPER. , . Ifthe decision who is to be Presidont is to be net “Med by Congressional manwuvring, it is suggested that the republicans may be able to checkmate their opponents in this way, The constitution ex- plicitly provides that the counting of the electoral vote shall be done in the pres: ence of the Senate and Honse of Rep- fesentatives, If the Senate will not attend tu the hall of the House and ifthe House will not at” _- | tend in the Sonate Chamber it is very evident that the Vote cannot be counted. If the vote is not counted the President of the Senate can make no declaration &s to who isclected President, and the House might then proceed to elect a President. But the constitu- (on provides that when the House is called upon to @ect a President a quorum for vbat purpose shall con- ‘Uist Of two-thirds of the States. More than one-third of the Mtates reprosentea in the House have a ma- bority , aad 1 Would be in their” power, by absenting themselves, to prevents quorum. Then the Senate could elect a Vice President, who would Bucceed to the Presidency. VIRWS OF THE MODERATES, As should be said for the credit of the republican party that so wild and revolutionary a project gots no- countenance from its soberer members, There are here a certain number of members of Congress and others who, it is very evident, do not mean to stick at anything, however rash or revolutionary, which they may find necessary to elect their candidate; but there isasaficient number of members and Senators, and those the most influential whon the test comes, who will not consent to measures which they feel would @isgrace them. The fact, however, that such projects are discussed sufficiently proves how extremely em- Darrassing to all the projects and hopes of the ex- tremists has been the occurrence in Oregon. CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISIONS. ‘Iho constitution provides clearly against both the propositions so far made, It requires the Senate and House to meet together for the purpose of seeing the votes counted, and the statute declares the day on which this shall be done. Refusal to attend the joint convention would be a violation of Jaw. The constitu- tion provides that, if the olection falls into the House, | quorum for that purpose “shail consist of a member or members trom two-thirds of the States,” and the democrats bave a member or members in twenty-nine of the thirty-eight States, besides which there are re- publicans in at least several of the nine States which have solid delegations of that party who would not lend themselves to a factious or revolationary course, Mr MoCreery, of Iowa, is undoubtedly such a man. Under the constitution one member may represent and cast the vote of a Stato; hence there is no danger of ‘@ny such a deadlock as is suggested. VIEWS OF VICE PRESIDENT FERRY ON THE SITUATION—THE SENATE WILL NOT GO TO THE HOUSE—THE PRESIDING OFFICER OF THE SENATE AUTHORIZED UNDER THE CON- STITUTION TO COUNT THE VOTES—THE ‘WATTS OREGON ELECTORS TO BE PREFERRED— OPINIONS OF LEADING STATESMEN. [FROM OUR REGULAR CORRESPONDENT. ] Wasnixatox, Dee. 8, 1876. In a brief exchange of opinion about the Presidential eontroversy Senators Edmunds and Morton each took position that the republicans had nothing to fear from the Oregon case. ViRWS OF VICE PRESIDENT FERRY. Vico President Ferry was questioned this evening in fegard to the Oregon difficulty, He did not seem to be alarmed by the generally accepted belief that it threatened the success of the republican Presiden- tual ticket. He said there was no rulo obliging tho Senate to go over to the House tor one very plain rea- son, namely, that there are no joint or concurrent rules between the two Houses of Congr It bad Deen merely as & matter of accommodation trom Adams’ time down that the Senate had hitherto gone ever to the House because its chamber wus larger, COUNTING THE VOTES, According to the constitution the Presiding officer ef the Senate will, in the prosence of the two houses, * eount the votes on the day set apart fur doing so, The President of the Senate will probabiy give notice to the House at the proper timo that he is about to pro- eved to the performance of his duty under the consti. tution, aud the House, so notified, will be invited to be prosent as contemplated by it. The Senate will Rot, be believes, go over to the chamber of the House for tne counting of the electoral vote at the coming opening of the certificates. AUTHORITY OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE. He is also of the opinion that the electoral vote will be counted by the President of the Senate and that no tellers will be appointed. There is no doubt about the House coming over to the Senate. He has reason to believe that, as between the Watts and Cronin electors, the former will be preferred. There will be no diseussion or debate, he thinks, upon them, but when they come to be examined tne Watts certificater will show that they are regular according to the hon- estly expressed vote for clectors in the State of Oregov. He cappot say how the republican Senators are going to act am regards tho Oregon electoral case, TUR DIFFICULTIES, As to the difficulties in the case he must walt with others to seo what the requirements of the moment and good judgment will dictate. Beyond this be can- not infer what will be done. In common with all the republicans and mary honest democrats he thought the action of Governor Grover was unexampled and astounding asan outrage, AS to whether the Senate can go behind the Gubernatorial certificates he cannot speak advisedly. SENATOR MORTON ON TUR SITUATION. Governor Morton, of Indiana, says that the action of Governor Grover is unparalleled, but that his action in regard tothe electoral vote of Oregon will not make any difference the opening the electoral vote before the houses of Congress. He says that the general mistake made is that the electors of a Stato require the certifi- cate of its Governor; whereas by-section 2 of the General Lawa the electors make out, seal up and send in or count of two their own certificates to the President of the Senate without any regard to the Gover- nor’s certificate, The latter is required only when necessary to bo delivered to th electors to recognize them as electors on the first Wednesday of December at their meeting, as pro- vided for in section 3. The certificate of the Governor does not make’ them electors but is a mere formal declaration of the:r character without entering into the exsence of it. NO TROUBLE ABOUT IT. He says there can be no trouble about it, as the President of the Senate does not require any certificate from the Governor of Oregon, The Senate will not, he thinks, go ovor as a body to the House of Representa- tives forthe opening and counting of the electoral vote, but Will very Iikely remain in its own chamber, NO TELLERS TO BE APPOINTED. The appointment of tellers will be dispensed with, he thinks, in conformity with tho views of the repub- lican Senators, as not required by the constitution, or the law, As to the Oregon case he inclines to the belief thas. the Watts’ cleetoral certificates will be accepted and the Cronin set ignored. GENERAL GARVIELD’S OFIXIOX, General Garfield was interrogated to-night as to what means the repuBlicags wore likely to fina for getting around the trouble créated by the certification of the democratic elector im@regon. He gave it as his opin- jon that when all the facts wero at hand a remedy would doabtiess be dis- covered sufficient to cure the trouble. There was, no ministerial duty performed by any official which ‘was not partly judicial, Vor instance, a forged certifi- cate might be offered; in such a case the official would have the undoubted right to use his judgment that it waa @ forgery, and discard it accordingly. When the tw sets of certificates from Oregon), patie tere be epanid: Ake. President of tho Senste would have more or less of a judicial right to exercise, as in the case given in the illustration, ‘THE LEGAL QUESTION, ‘The question of the relative legality of the two sets of electors could be settied by an examination of the laws of Oregon. In other States the two republicans would have the right to fill the vacancy, bat he (Gen- eral Garflela) would rather wait to sce what the stat- utes of Oregon provided. The stream of decisions had beex all against the succeeding of a minority candidate except, as far as he remembered, in one small case, that of a» sheriff in®Indiana. He thought thatifthe Governor’s certificate had been withheld from Odell and Cartwright by Cronin it was only necessary to get a certified copy from the Secre- tary of State’s office and to enclose this certified copy along with their votes for Hayes and Wheeler. tifled copy of a paper of this character is as eflicient ag the original A cer- THE GOVERNOR'S SIGNATCRE NOT NECESSARY, He did not understand that it was necessary that the action of the Electoral College should be certified to by the Governor, but if so, it was a feature of the case created by the laws of Oregon. Of course he would admit that Cronin had beon elected an elector if there was a statutory provision of Oregon allowing a minor- ity candidate to succeed to an office where a majority candidate was disqualified, WHEN THK TWO HOUSES WILL MEET. He could not say what the Senate would do abvut refusing to come over to the House to count the elec- toral vote, bat he was satisfied a path would be found by following the coustitution and the laws, which would lead to a peaceful settlement of any contro- versy. He believed when all the facts were at hand the trouble about the Oregon case would bo aut | cleared up. SCOTT LORD'S VIEWS. Mr. Scott Lord, speaking for the more thoughtful element of the democratic side of the House, said the qualifying of the democratic Oregon eieetor Cronin found no favor in his eyes. He did not wish to secure success by any questionable process. He wanted to see Mr, Tilden elected by the prevalence of right. He thought the Cronin matter marred the moral beauty of the democratic argument in this whole controversy. HiKSTER CLYMER. Mr. Hiester Clymer, like Mr. Lord, did not wish to claim that Cronin was elected an elector, but he main- tained that only two republican electors had been cho- son from Oregon, so that at bost Mr. Hayes had only 184 vetcs, tho same as Mr. Tilden, a result which throws the oloction into the House, NO EXCITEMENT IN OREGON—THE GOVERNOR'S COURSE APPROVED--FAILURE OF THE OFFICE- | HOLDERS T@ GET UP INDIGNATION MEET- NGS. [BY TELEGRAPH 10 THE HERALD. ] Portiaxv, Dec, 8, 1876, There is no excitement here whatever. Un the con- trary everything is very quiet, Tho office-holders bave tried to get up indignation meetings, but tney did not succeed, as the course of the Governor is very gonerally approved except by that class, Matters are equally quiet in Salem. Mr, Cronin will go om to Wasnington with the Tilden vote, STATEMENT OF WATTS AS TO WHAT OCCURRED ON iHE MEETING OF TRE ELECTORS— CRONIN’S REFUSAL TO PRODUCE TRE CERTIT- CATES—HOW THE ALLEGED VACANCIES WERE e@FILLED. Sax Faaxcisco, Dec, 8, 1876, A press despateh {rom Portland, Oregon, says Watta, ae. ie Secretary Chadwick slipped the certificates of election through the door into Cronin’s band the other elcc- in an interview to-day, stated positively that when | toral candidates present asked what the sealed en- velope contained. Cronin answered that it contained certificates of election. Watt, Cartwright and Odell asked to see tho certificates, and Cronin declined to all of them. Tho Tequest was made three times by each of the gentle- men named and was each time denied. They then demanded that be should produce the certificates, and Cronin retused in the most emphatic tel atthe same time thrusting the envelope in his breast pocket and buttoning bis coat, Mr, Watts avers there was no person in the room bat Cartwright, Odell, Cronin and himself, They saw what Cron claimed were cer- tiflcates. So far as they had positive or judicial knowledge the envelope contained nothing except blank stips, WHAT CRONIN CLAIMED, He claimed he was an clector and said be bad a cor- Liflcate, and asked permission to act with Cartwright and Odell, These gentlemen did not refuse at any time Lo recognize or to act with him. They demandea he should exhibit his certificate and show what right he had to claim aseatin the Electoral Board. This he also positively refused to do. Cronin withdrew, and declared that as the other two gentlemen refused to act, there existed two vacancies in the Board, which he proceeded to fill, appointing Miller and Parker, two staunch democrats, und then cast the so-called electoral ballot of the State. ‘The republican clectors after casting the electoral vote prepared a full and complete statement of what took place in the room, of everything that was said aud done to which each appended his affidavit. Thie ‘statement has been forwarded together with the sealed ballot to the President of the Senate. THR GOVERNOR NURNED IN RPPIGY. At an indignation meeting held here last night, Gov- ernor Grover was burned in efligy in tho public strect by a crowd of exerted citizens, AMUSEMENTS. STEINWAY HALL—MME. ESSIPOFF. Mme, Essipoff appeared for tho fourteenth timeat Steinway Hall last night, and the matinée to-day will bring to a close one of the most notabic and successfal seasons ever accomplished by one musical artist in this city, The most prominent featuro of the ovening ‘was the second piano concerto in G minor, opus 22; by Saint-Sicns. Itisone of those works that must fe- main as a sealed book to most pianists, for ita technical difliculties alone, like those of the Hensclt concerto, are sufficient to daunt aught but fleet fingers trainod in allthe totricacies of the modern schools. The opening movement, Andante Sostenuio, commeuces with a bold, cadenza- like passage for the piano alone, the ponderous chords 1m the bass, just before the entrance of tho orchestra, being struck with such power by the pianist that the effect was like that of the pedals of a church organ, After a phrase or two from the orchestra the piano gives out the first theme, which is of a deciamat kind, It becomes more impassioned as tho move~ ment the doscending passages of double octaves being’ apswered by short phrases from the wind instrumenta, The theme appears again iv a different form and then on the prolonged chords of the wind and brass instruments is boilt fantastie passages tor the piano, sixths, thirds, octaves, &c., re- quiring the utmost lightness of touch, and yet that mobility of expression to give them their due meant A rush of octaves on the piano and the pears among the violins, to be urned al instrument, with a running arpoggio, bags, until a cadenza, much in the form ot a recitative, ig reached, The opening parase is then repeated, a few rapid urpeggio, afew bars with all th ats mm unison and the first movement comes to an end. The second movements, allegro scherzando, commences alter four.bars tor tympani, with a sparkling theme for the piano, like the twitter- ing of birds 1n a woodland scene. 1t is repeated by the strings, and wround it are woven beautiful ues by the piano. The wind instruments next take it up and present it in iragmentary shape, seemingly calling each other amid the 1airy murmurs of the viotins, Rapid chromatic runs on the piano follow, aud with a singular, but very effective accompaniment of chorded triplets on tue samo instrument, the fayotti, cell! and violas give forth the second theme, to be rele’ bars later by the piano. The passages | become more brilliantas the movement draws toa close, and the fingers of the fajr pianist seemed to be endowed with clectricity as tho passages flushed forth beneath her touch. The last movement, presto, is tarantella-lke in form, except in ono part where, for forty bars, the firat note of each on the piano 18 trilled, and produces a quaint effect with the prolonged chords of the orchestra, The finale swept over the keyboard like a whirlwind, as tho pianist appeared to be imbued with the flery spirit of ue and Inspired to an unusual dogree. 7 that followed the periormance of the concerto was deafening. 10 the second part Mme. Essipoil played the two last movements, "Romance and Rondo of Chopin’s concerto in & minor, the same work io which she made her début. Her playing ef it last night was even more impressive than on the previovs occasion. Filigree work or the Mvorish arabesque has net spun anything more suporsensuously tive then fantastic embeliignments of the rondo, which remind one of “silvery lace woven by elves from moonbeams.’’ The ‘Polonaise Melancolique,”’ by Schubert, arranged by Tausig, followed, and was anether delightiul feature of the concert. Tho charm of the composer’s style was instantly felt, and the pian tered comprehendingly into the inmost essence of the tone poem. Schubert was succeeded by Liszt, and the contrast was as strongly marked as could be imagined. Nothing could be wilde tmpish than the ‘“Gnomenreigen,” in whit cowverse in a jaoguage entirely consonant with their atu For an encore Mme. Essipot! played the charming composition of her husbuad, “Les Deux Alouttes,”’ which bas been made pepular by ber, M. Vivien, the violiniat, played one of Vieuxtemps’ works, and mado a more decided success than at previous concert, Mlle. Aenese Palma, contralto, sang “Il tuo sangue @ me rescasti,”” by Mercadante, and ‘Au Printemps,” by Gounod, Mr. Theodore Thomas and his unrivalled orehestra played selections from the works of'Boethoven and Wagner. ACADEMY OF MUSIC— PHILHARMONIC REHEARSAL The Philharmonic Society had their last public re- hearsal for the second concert at the Academy of Music yesterday afternoon. The following was the pro- gramme:—symphony, No. 2, io C, op 61, R. Sehu- mann. Concerto, No. 2, in G minor for pianoforte and orebestra, C. Saint Saens—Mr. B. J, Laog. Grand Scena, from the Goetterdaemmerung, R. Wagner. Overture, “Leonore,”’ No. 3, Beethoven. The unremitsing exertions of the conductor, Dr, Damrosch, are already bringing forth good fruit, Toe orchestra hus made vast progress, and has risen from the slough ot despond into which’ apathy. carelessness and bad management consigned it. Mr. Lang, the Boston pianist, played the concerto with intelligence und aerisp, clear style, lacking only in fire ana ex- pression. Messrs. Bischoff and Steinbach sang in the secne trom the “Twilight of the Gods, ”’which is the most impressive, perhaps, in the entire trilogy. The concert takes placo to-night, aud it will be one worthy of such an organization as tho Philharmonic Society bas been, it will be again if it continues io its present MUSICAL AND DRAMATIC NOTES, Master Montgomery, a boy sald to have a fino so- prano voice, will sing at Downing’s Sunday night con- cert at the Grand Opera House, Mr. Jobn T. Raymond wil appear in Miss Gilder’s dramatization of Dr, Holiand’s “Sevenoaks”? in Louis, ville, Ky., on the 16th of this month. This will bo De, Hollana’s first appearance as dramatic author and Mr, Raytmond’s first appearance in a new part since his début as Colonel Sellers. Mr. Raymond will play Jim Fenton and Mr, Macaulay Belcher. BURNING OF CANAL BOATS. Paitav‘cruia, Dec, 8, 1876, ‘The canal propeller New York, an oid boat belong- ing to the Clyde line and plying between here and Washington, took fire to-night aud was destroyed. A canal barge, wkich contained about 200 bales of cotton and lying im the immediate vicinity, was also destroyed, Both boats were moved ito midstream to prevent the fire from commuuscatihg to otber shipping. The New York arrived on Thursday and discharged her cargo. She was about to be reloaded when the fire occurred. The loss will not exceed $15,000, ‘ihe fire 18 believed to have originated in the gulley, the vessel being deserted at the time. FIRE IN A TENEMENT HOUSE, A fire broke out yesterday morning in the six story tenement house No, 60 Mulberry street, rear. Tho alarm was quickly given aud the engines were soon on the spot. Pending sheir arrival the fire, which was at first confined to the fourth floor, spread rapidly upward and caused much excitement among jumater. The house was occupied by o forty families, and tho struggle for egress at “ono timo threutened to prove serious, but fortunately no person was injured, Tho activity of the Dremen in extinguishing tue ames and assist- Ing tue occupants Lo escape was particularly potice- abie, Fireman Leopard, of Evgine No. 31, rescued from suflocation a one-year-old ifamt, named Simou Hy mau, who was agicep in a cradle whilo the tre was in progress. The mother was temporarily absent from the house and when the fireman eutered the room the stile one Was hearty suflocated. It was sent to Boile- vue, Tho damuge to iurnitare and building is $500, THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, In ali the Cathohe churcbes yesterday the feast of the Immaculate Conception was observed with great pomp and ce: it the Church of the Jmmaculat THE POLITICAL CAULDRON a os General Ruger’s Definition of His Orders from President Grant. cobinontiidl HE IS TO SUSTAIN CHAMBERLAIN. BL tee EAL ge Legal Process Intended to Starve Out the Re- publican State Government. THE CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATING COMMITTEE Tis Visit to the State House---A Surly Réveption by the Dusky Doorkeepers. FLORID/é "8 STATE VOTE. Two Legislatures to Meet in Lonisiana—Both Parties Expect Federal Recognition. SOUTH CAROLINA. GENERAL RUGER'S ORDERS—HE 18 TO PRE- SERVE THE PEACE—HE SUSTAINS CHAMBER- LAIN 80 LONG AS HE I8 RECOGNIZED BY THE PRESIDENT 4S GOVERNOR—LEGAL PROCEED- INGS TO STARVE CHAMBERLAIN OUT—VISIT OF THE CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE. (BY TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD. ] Couumata, 8. C., Dec. 8, 1876, ‘The democratic House was the centre of interest here to-day, Thetirst thing this body did was to order its committee, appointed yesterday, to cail upon General Ruger. That committee accordingly presented itself to the General, at his rooms in the Columbia Hotel, and announced its mission as follows:—‘‘We are a com- mittee of the Houso of Kepresentatives, directed to wait op you, as the commanding officer of the troops in Columbia, You are aware troops are in the State House, Will you be kind enough to inform us by whose authority these troopa are in the State Hoaue and for what purpose they are there? Wo wish to avoid the least appearanco of violence, but, our House being the legal House, we wish to occupy tho hal] of the Houso ot Representatives. Are your troops instructed to re- sist the peaceful entrance of our House into the hall? You know there ts a force of State constabulary thore, as deputy doorkecepers of the House; they are guard- tng an illegal House; are your troo; authorized to support them if they resist the entrance into the ball of our members ?”” These questions wero reduced to writing and sub- mitted to the General, at his request, aud be said :— RIPLE SHEET. GENERAL RUGER’S REPLY, “I prefer my official reply to these questions eball be in writing, and shall so reply at my earliest con- vemience, I am willing, however, to state, verbally, a general answer, which 1-think will cover the whole ground; and I shall speak plainly. I am, of course, the commander of the troops iu Columbia, and they act under my orders, My ordors to them come from the President of the United States, and I act as I understand those orders. Governor Chamberlain ap- plied to the President for troops to preserve the peace againat violence and insurreetion. President Grant recognized Chamberlain as Governor of South Caro. lima, and ordered troops to be placed at his disposal, ‘The troops as they are now placed are to preserve the Peace and to prevent interference with the House which Govornor Chamberlain recognizes as legal.” The Cuammax—But, General, we claim we are the Jegal House, and what we wish to know is that if we attempted to enter the hall of the House, which is our rightful place, whether the troops would interfere with us? General Rucer—I will say plainly that tho troops, while they would not interfore or prevent your en- trance directly, would be under orders to pre- swerve the peace, and as the republican House is recegnized by Governor Chamber. lain as the legal House, and as Chamberlain 1@ recognized by the President as Governor of South Carolina, if the officers or doorkeepers of that House were to resist your entrance, the officer in command of the troops would be compelied to come between you and them and support thom in their resistance against your catrance to the hall. CHAMBERLAIN TO BR SUSTAINED, This is my position, while I do not pretend to deciae ‘which 1s the legal Houce or who bas tho right to seats in the House of Representatives, yet so long as Cham- berlain is recogaized by the Prosident as Governor, and so long as he reeognizea the republican House, my orders as I understand them will be to preserve that House against intrusion or interruption, I have been severely criticised for my actions, but you can see very clearly how I am situated. While I dislike very mucb to turao back a respectablo body of citizens from tho balls of the State House, yet I am cader or- ders and must obey them as I understand them, PRACE POLICY OF THE DEMOCRATS. A Mumper—We are very glad, General, you bave spoken so candidly. We know we are right and teol certain that we will be ostablished in our rights very shortly. We wish to avoid all violence and preserve to the end the peace policy which we havo all the while followed. General Grant intimated that ho would recognize neither House until they had sixty- three members with certificates of the State Board of Canvassers; this number we now have and also havo eight other members who hold certificates from our highest court, and having organizea the House to meet the requirements of the President, we certainly aro the otily legal House, General Rvoer—I have received no such official informasion, but of course my action is regulated to- ward the two houses according to the oxtent of recog- nition they receive from the President, Do not un- derstand that I intena to support either House, My position is only to preserve from interruption that body which is recognized as the legal House of Repre- sentatives, ‘ CHAMBERLAIN RESPONSIBLE, The General added:—*‘The troops have been very much blamed for their action in this matter; but 1 would say that if the people of South Carolina have been debarred any of their rights it 13 not the fault of the soldiers, but of Governor Chamberlain, under whose orders they are—that is, the orders como through Chamberlain, recognized by the President as Governor of South Carolina.” Alter some further general conversation the com- mittee retired, with the assurance from General Ruger that be would submit a formal repiy in writing as early as possible, THR ACTUAL MILITARY COMMANDER, This conversation and the statement of General Ruger given above discloses tho tact that the troops in the State House have been under the actual commund ot Chamberlain and his supporters since their entrance to that building at midnight on the 27th of November, Itexplains bow the democratic members were ex cluded on tho 28th, when the Legislature met, until the Mackey House haa organized with a quorum of fifty- nine members, and how, ever since, all attempts of the democrats and whites to assert their rignts tp the State House have been defeated by Chamberlain through tho agency of the troops. PRKSCDKNT GRANT UPHOLDING CHAMBERLAIN, Yesterday Governor Chamberlain, at the last moment, was urged and implored by his most intimate republican friends not to accept the inauguration under circumstances of such apparent aud flagrant ilegality. They argued that such a move would be fatal to his fature political prospects, and becged him to reconsider bis determination to be inaugurated. To these repeated and urgent appeal ho Governor was immovable. He sagely shook his head aud repliod, sigoifeantly, “I know what lam doing” The infereoce taken from this remark of the Governor is that he bas fresh and recent ussurances from the President that he will be supported og the administration to the last, and this 18 10 pars copfirmea oy a report to-day that Geueral Ruger has, since the inauguration of the Governor by the republican House and Senate, received instractions | to give Chamberlaia all the aid be required, GOVERNOR HAMPTON AND THE CNITKD STATES SRNATOR- sir. There is a wide difference in the characters of Hamp- ton and Champerlain, ‘The latter 18 ambitious to cap- ture a seat in the United States Senate. Hampton in- tends to be Governor of South Carolina, He wasasked this evening if he would accept the Senatership if it was offered to him, He replied, that when ho was | nominated bis position was that he should be governed solely by the wishes of the peuple, who were to judge how he could best | serve them. If everything had gone simootbly, and the people had desired his services in the Sepate more than as Governor, he would have abided by their wishes, but in view of the recent complications and | the troubled condition in which affairs aro he strongly inclined to the belief that the people all over the State preferred to have him remain as Governor. He furtber said: —*I feel that I could do 1 or pothing inthe Senate tor the people, while 1 may be abie to do some good hero as Governor,” This evening Judge Carpenter issued an injunction, on the complaint of several taxpayers, against the two banks in this city which had been selected as State | depositories of public funds—the proceeds of taxes- from paying the deposits out on checks signed by FB Cardoz, claiming to act as State Treasurer.” It seems that by tho constitution of the Siate the term of ollice of the State Treasurer is for tour years absolutely, and not until his successor is elected or qualitied; that the term of the State Treas- [ urer and of all other State officers elected along with the Governor and Lieutenant Governor, begins when the Governor is installed; that the Governor who was elected in October, 1872, ulong with Mr. Cardozo, was installed on Vecember 3, 1872, and thus that Mr, Car- dozo’s term of tour years ended December 3, 1876, NO SURGTIAS RESPONSIBLE. By law in South Carolina the sureties of a public officer are not responsivle beyond the limits of the term of office of the principal, and, of course, do not begin to be responsible until the officer onters upon the duties of office. Mr. Cardozo can then, it = i8 claimed, do no act for which his sureties, im cage of malfeasance, wou te responsible, under his term of cfllzc, which ex- pired December 3, 1876, He claims to have been elected at the last election of November 7, setting up a prima facie title under the unregistered and illegal certificate of the Returning Board of State Canvassors, Supposing this were a good primd facie title, the argument is that it 1s for a terin of oltice which cannot begin until a lawfully electod Gevernor has been legally installed. Chamberiain, not baving securea the highest number of votes, and hay- ing recoived his declaration of election and installation from the Mackey Houso, previously ad- Judged by the Supreme Court to bo illegal, cannot be said to be installed; bence the new term of office claimed by Mr. Cardozo has not begun, and until Hampton is inaugurated cannot begin, conformably to the conetitution. Until bis term begins any bond he may fileon the basis of Chamberlain’s inauguration will not be a lawful bond; the sureties thereov will not become liable until the term of office legally begine. THK CHAMBERLAIN REGIM® STARVED OUT. On theso grounds the taxpayers say he Is without sureties for his acts as Treasuror, and Chamberlain, ‘under bis now title, cannot countersign his checks. If the temporary injunction {s sustained the Chamberlain government ig necessarily sturved. No one dreams that Chamberlain will over be able to enforce oa tax levy in South Carolina. MENTING OF THH COMMITTEE OF CONGRESS. Tho Congressional Investigating Committee met to- day at eleven A. M.in the parlor of the Wheelor House. Hon. Milton Saylor presided, The session was brief, and the only business transacted was the pertecting of arrangements to secure for the use of‘ the committee all the clectioa roturns, proceedings in the Supreme Court of the State and in the United States Circuit Court, and all papers bearing upon the eiection of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, They adjourned to meet at ten A. M, to-morrow. A VISIT TO THE STATE MOUSE, The committee goon alterward procured carriages and visited the State House, whertjWiug white men, they experienced great diMculty in obtaining adimis- sion from the negro deputy constables guarding the en- trances to the building. As soon as it was discoverca that it was the Congressional Investigating Commit- tee they wero ushered in and tendered seats on tho floors of the Mackey House and Senate, A majority of the committee wero very much exasperated at tho annoyasce they experienced |in getting in, and, when in, they were astounded at the singular spectaclo they witnessed. PROBABLE RESULT OF THE INVESTIGATION. From expressions lot fail by the republican inetnbers of the committee it is anticipated that these gentlemen will not even mako a minority report. Tho condition of affuirs brought about by the: republicans is so much worse than what they realized that the committee will probably be unanimous in recommending the immedi- ate recognition of the Hampton government. PROCERDINGS IM THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE, The Mackey House adopted a resolution directing the appointment ef a committee to Inquire whether the Supreme Court or any ot its membors Rave been guilty of any act or acts which render them Mable to in- peachment. They also resolved to doclare vacant the seats oy Hamtiton, Meyers, Westberry, Gibson, Bird and Bridges, the members who seceaed from their Doay and joined the Wallace House ; and directing the Speaker to issue writs of election to supply the vacancies, Alter appointing a committeo to wait upon and con- fer with the honorable committee of the House of Representatives relative to the present condition of affairs they adjourned, ACTION OF THE DEMOCRATIC HOUSE. ‘The democratic House to-day passed resolations au- thorizing the Judiciary Committee to proceed against D, H. Chamberlain, ex-Governor of South Carolina, for waging war against the State in fliling the State House with armed United States troops and preventing the entrance of the legal House of Represontatives to the Hall of Representatives, and for other treasonable acts. The Committeo on Privileges and Kloctions wore in- structed to uacertain and report what counties wero not represented in the House and to report to tho Speaker, that he may issue writs of elections in such counties to fill such vacancies. FLORIDA. THE VOTE FOR STATE OFFICERS AND CON- GRESSMEN—DISSENT OF ATTORNEY GENERAL COCKE FROM THE DECISION OF THE CAN- VAssING BOARD. [BY TELEGRAPH TO THE HERALD.1 Tattauassen, Dec, 8, 187 A majority of the Canvassing Board, Attorney Gen- eral Cocke dissenting, pretend ta Wave ascertained and determined the State vote on the tollowing oilicers;~ FOR GOVERNOR, Whole vote cast. Stearns (rad.) Drew (dom. ). Stearns’ majority... VOR LIKUTENAN GOVERNOR. Whole vote.. D. Montgomery (rad, ). Hull (d0m.)...++++00+ Montgomery’s majority.. CONGRESSIONAL VOTE, First District. Whole vote cast. Purman (rad. Davidson (dei Majority for Parma Whole vote cast... Bisbee (rad.). Finley (dem.) Majority for Bisbee........... . ‘The Board of Canvassers to-day, al and annoancing the vote for Governor, Lieutenant Governor and members of Congross, adjourned. The Attorney General, Judge Cocke, retased to sign the statement of the result on the grounds of fraud, irregularity and illegality, He also obeyed tho order of Judge White, whose injuuction restraining the Board tro: canvassing § the returns or certifying to thom is thas disobeyed by tho majority of the Board, The other members of the Board say, to the chargo ot contompt, that they bad already canvassed the vote whon they were served With tho restraining papers, and have, since then, merely tabulated the returns which they had already canvassed, This view, Judge Covke says, is simply riaiculous. Judge White, it is presumed, will call them before him to answer for contempt in a few days. THE ACTION OF THR BOARD A NULLITY. Judge Cocke will prepare a review of the canvass and prosentit to the Congressional Committee. He said to-day that he regarded the action of the Canvassing Board as wholly tiegal and void. He says the law makes the Board a unity, and does not give to a ma- jority the power of declaring a result, Te will be sus- tained, he,thinks, by the Supreme Court of the State, as there are precedents which cover tho point. MORK INKLIGIBLE ELECTORS. Another complication is likely to arise about the electors returned by this radical Board. Tho elector Humphries, trom Pensacol, was shipping agent, unaer government appointment, aua although he say! he resigned a week betore the clection no such resig- nation bas been found on the files at Washington, The negro who cast the vote of the State for Hayes, was tried, convicted and sentenced to the Peal+ teutiary, The Governor pardoned him, but a law of the State says any one convicted of felony shall be sent ed and shall forfeit his right to vote, and the Governor's pardon, it is urged, does not rehabilitate him; therefore, as he 13 not An elector in the Statey the question will arise, ‘How can he bean elector for President in the college who cannot legally vote in the State’? He is said, woo, not to be a citizen of the United States. Though born here he went to Canada, aud there 1s said to have sworn allegiance to G ritain, and some years ago he was expelled from a radical State convention on tho ground that he was not a citizen, HAPROTED ACTION OF TEE CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE, These questions may come up to complicate mate ters, and but littic doubt is entertained that the coms ing Congressional committee will upset this whole fabric of fraud, forgery and perjury. The evidence almost conclusive, and the power to send for persons and papers and compel the attendance of witnesses will developsome strange stories. The committee appointed by the House of Representatives will be here Sunday night and will organize at ouce on Monday, and make, ib is hoped, specdy work of the investigation. TROOPS DEPARTING. All the troops here leave to-morrow for South Carolina except one company of infantry. LOUISIANA, PLANS OF THR ¢ ENDING POLITICIANS— TWO LEGISLATURES TO MEET—WAL.ING FOR MAKCH. [ny TELEGRAPH TO THE NERALD.] Nrw Oxuians, Dec. 8, 1876. To-day has been exceedingly quiet, Sheriff Handy (democrat) was fastalled in office this morning, and several othere of the newly clected officials re. ceived their commissions. There will be no delay im issuing the others, upon the part of Governor Kellogg, except in the case of several judges, postponed, it is aid, for pohtical reasons. The democratic pro- gramme, as taras can bo gleaned from the best ta- formed sources, 18 substantially a8 follows:—To roe main perfectly quiet during the interval penaing the inauguration of the President, except so far as is con- sidered absolutely necessary to assert their rights ag tne de jure goverument of the State, DEMOCRATIC LEGISLATURE TO BE ORGANIZED, With this view the democrats elected to the Lege tslature will meet avd organize, entirely ignoring the action of the Returning Board, ana refusing to partie ipate in the sessions of the other or de facto Legi» lature, NICHOLS TO BE INAUGURATED, General Nichols will be inaugurated as Governor om tho appointed day, and affairs will thus reimain 10 statu quo until Mareh 4, when it 1 expected by them Tilden will take his seat, through whose aid, with the demo- cratic Congross, they confidently asticipate recogni- tol We are thus likely to have the experiences of 1872 and 1874 repeated over again, but ina somewhas milder form, KELLOGG’S POLICY OF CONCILIATION, The republicans, in view of this, will confine their offorts to winning over enough conservative members to prevent tn embiing of a quorum of the deme- cratic houses, Kellogg hus already initiated steps in this direction. The party leaders do not ap- pear much alarmed at the prospect, partly from great experience im such a condition of aflairr, but mainly because it will clear the way for the clection of United States Senators and the easy enactment of such legislation as they may deem ad- visable. Of course they all have an equally abiding faith ia the inauguration of Hayes as the next Preaie dent, OHIO VIEWS OF THE RESULT. BEPUBLICANS CONFIDENT OF HAYES’ BUCCESS—= DEMOCRATS SEE NO COMING WAR CLOUD, (BY TELEGRAPH TU THE HERALD.] Co.vmnvs, Deo, 8, 1876, Republicans bere to-day bave shown more en- thusiasm over the political situation than on any previous day since the eloction. They all declare they are now perfectly satisfied of Hayes’ election, and will wait patiently for his inauguration, which mast seom in March, General Wickoff, Chairman of the State Ropublican Committee, who has all along held his opinion in reserve, now says he is well satisied with the situation as it stands, and insists that, ab though there will be pleuty of windwork between and March 4, there will bo no war, and that Hayes be maugurated. Otner leading republicans coucur in this view. GOVERNOR HAYES AUSKST—HIS STAPF HAIL HIM 48 THE CHOSEN PRESIDENT. Governor Hayes is visiting at Dayton, so his opinion cannot be given, but his military aod civil stall are to-day coniident that neither legal technicalities nos constitutional contests can bo suflicient to deprive their chief of tho Presidency. CONGRATULATORY MBSSAGES. Lettors and telegrams of congratulation are again beginning to pour iu upon Governor Hayes. One lete tor received to day was from Mre. Abigal Warren, of Cincinnati, a very old lady, Who many years ago, when Hayes was yet a comparatively unknown man, prophes sied tbat he would in tine bo President, The letter ip a characteristic one, aud ovidently guve the writer much satisfaction in its preparation, HOW ONIO DEMOCRATS VIRW THY OREGON TANGLE. Democrats take very litte comfort trem the Orogo: basiness, being familiar with Senator Tburman’s coaree in the Senate on similar cases, and consequently see littic tnore in it than ganother taugle to the gem eral wwist of tho skein. of technic: No leading democrat that] have thus tar talked with indorses Governor Grover's course in the Oregon matter, and thoy only give it countenance as a stand off tor what they call the “steal’’ of Louisiana, : A PACIFIC OUTLOOK, The news of yesterday and tv-day has had the ocffect of producing atmuch better feeling between men of both parties, snd there are now much fewer men who luk of force to prevent the inauguration of a Pres dent than at any previous time. George L, Converse, the acknowledged leader of the ultra wing of the democrats of this county, whem asked (o-day his opinion as to whether there woutu be war, in case of Hayes? inauguration, replied, “1 don’t think there will be any war. Woe have had war enough, sir; we will fight with our reason, backed by the titution.’? cot GERMAN REFORM ASSOCIATION. At tho regular monthly meeting of the contrat om ganization of the German-American Independent Cith zens’ Association, held last evening at Beethover Hall, about eighty delegates wero present, The chair was occupied by Mr, Oswald Ottendorfer, who called the meeting to order at hulf-past eight, sharp, Reso. lutions were adopted thanking Mr, Ottendorter for the public spirit he had shown in undertaking a long journey Ww the South, although in ill teaith, for the porpose of being present during the couut of the Louisiana Vote, ad that he be requested to give the meeting an account of what he had witnessed while 1m New Orleans, a request with which Mr, Ottendorfer complied, JOW LOUISIANA’S VOTE WAS COUNTRD, Mr. Ottendorter said that in New Orleans the gens tlemen of the committee invited by Mr. Hewitt om he democratic party had been able to do very little guod, as the republican committee, invited by President rant, had positively refused ta co-operal with them; that the republicans im general bad thrown obstacles in the way, had misrepresented 1 tucts = to them, Democratic outrages were spoken of on atl eides, but whenever they hud attempted to tod any basi for suck stories they had tound them to melt into thim air. He called on Governor Kellogg, sored him that great outrages had tal would only specify one, and that one proved on exam. ination to have taken place eighteen mouths ago! He concluded by sayin, at whatever might be the merits or the results of the election the people could now never believe in its fairness, and that tho gov- orninent Was therefore catied on to do something that would restore public contidence in the sanctity and sufficiency of tho constitusion and laws of the nation. A GERMAN APPEAL VOR PAIR PLAY. Judge Ottervbourg then moved on the part of the Executive Committee an address to the people, setting forth that the situation is xt present Very grave and tuil of danger, and that the German-, citt ought now, while there ts still time, to take e1 measures to mduce the government to bring bac! clectionsby ballot to its proper statua He wound up with wn curnest exhortation to republicans aad demo. crats to join im tinaking party interests subservient those of the country, since then only would dema- gogues Le restrained trom tamporing with the ot the American peopie, ‘This address ha: uoanimously adopted, the mecting adjourned, =; on 1 i anal