The New York Herald Newspaper, April 14, 1875, Page 4

4 NEW YORK HERALD, WEDNUSDAY, APKLL 14, 1875.—TRIPLE SHEET. THE BROOKLYN MISERY, Conclusion of Mr. Beecher’s Direct Examination by Mr. Evarts. A FORCEFUL DENIAL OF CRIMINALITY. Mr, Fullerton Puts the Defendant Into the Crucible of Cross-Examinetion. SHARP SPARRING ON POLEMICS. Beecher Thinks Kissing a Pleasant Subject for Remembrance. RIDING WITH ELIZABETH. Why the Pastor Neglected the Friday Evening Prayer Meeting at Tilton’s Demand. The direct examination of the great witness in the Brookiyn trial is over and the cross-examina- taon bas begua. It will continue, in ali likelihood, for many days more. Mr. Evarts sat down atten minutes past twelve yesterday, after reaching his final climax. Beecher’s (our de force as 4 wit- ess Was accomplished the second day, when he made his solemn and starting deniai of ever hav- ing Wad any improper intercourse with Mrs. Til- ton, It wasa remarsabie day im court, aud wi bardily tuought capable of being repeated. Mr. Evarts leit to the last the re-enumeration of those Questions which struck at the vital issue of the Case, and thea taking them up and spreading them out one oy ope in close order, so a8 to cover | the whole ground of the scandal, be demanded the reply of the witness. THE VITAL INQUIRIES. Did he ever have improper intercourse with Mrs, Tilton at any time irom December 80, 1870, to tbe present hour? Did he ever have improper tntercourse with her | Mt auy time beiore ¢ Did be ever bave improper intercourse with ber Qt any time in his whole itie? Was be ever, by accusation, imputation or in- timation, charged by Mr. Tilton with having im- Proper relations with bis wife at any ume wnat- ever? Was he ever, by accusation, imputation or inti- mation, charged by Mr. Moulton with baving im- proper relations with Mrs. Titon? To ali of these pregnant and comprehensive questions the witness returned a direct and em- phatic negative, and the examination ended, FOUR HOURS LATER ® @ change of sentiment seemed to beve s'olen over the courtroom. Mir. Beecher was under cru3s-ex- a@mination. When it endeu jor the day te face Wat Gescendea irom the witness stand was no: the same as that which went up therein the Morning. The hair was smoorbly brushed back irom the brows, the color waseven and healthy, the eye was clear and beaming and the general expression confident and easy in the morning and at noon. The eyelids are heavy now, tne blood gatners in blotches over the face, tie hair is tossed forward, con- ence of look 1s gone and nervousness plays around the lips. A singuicr mutation ia a iew hours, The cross-exXamination chair has not been & bed of roses. lts terrors lave not been ex- aggeratec. itis the rack where not the body but tBe mind is put to the torture. Innocent and gutity bave more or Jess experienced its horrors, AN OPPORTUNE CHIME. The bell never toiled its uoonday chime to a more appropriate step in the proceedings tban when the witness firmly ond solemnly answered Jor the thira and last time, “No; none whatever,” to the final question of a series as to whether be ever had apy seXaul iotercourse with Mrs. Tilton. Tots was tbe signal ior a lively stir in the audience. The great moment was at hand that everybody present was Impatient to enjoy—tne opening Oo! the crovs-examination. FULLERTON'S OPPORTUNITY. At quarter-pust twelve Mr. Fullerton stood up to begin the cross-examination. He was allowed plenty of room at the table where he customarily Stands. Mr. Beach sat opposite to nim and out of Bis accustomed piace, Deep interest was depictea ip every iace as Fullerton rose to his eet, Be spread & Quautity of papers beiore Bim, ook his giasses in his right haod, straightened nimseli up, and with a distinct pal- lor jiog dowWaward trom tis forenead and debt nervousness of manuer and voice first Question aso tue motive of the sear upon ihe Btole. moment with had evidently 1ODg BG Uoeari)) OL te Lerrors O1 a Cross-exam- ination, bota wen, it must be saic, exnivited a pa petty but it wore off, to all a ari ta perhaps ten or twent, minutes, eecner, a8 be regained his couficence, ro 3% Wituess loan ever ve.ore. Alt his gradually came into active play. Fuiler- SloWer to recover compete commana of rs. He cast is voice 1u 4 ow and almost tender key, Which Was sustained lor nearly the w The wit- auswers Wita Joree, precision anu edect. Wus conduct img We /ndependent u a wanner (hat excited tne Wart indignation uf the congresationalists of tLe Nortowest. “tis views on marriage were 100 heowe, fie had eaiarged (he iacii\ties tur procuring @ivorce.” Ucause: pur wit cusely lor & oa wbeWer seyto Wether he tbought Tilton & paver like the Independent, saapedid. Vinaily the witness Feplicd, A man 20 18 JouDg may, If be chose, teach crude doctrines. Lie believed age would e@orrect thar. TILTON LOOKS ADMIRINGLY. Tilton, sitting acar Fullertoa, wis tace thrown Deck, Hxes lus eyes WIth Woat seems BOOK of ad- tuifetiou of lis ondam irend and teacher tu tue witness Beecuer rises above he piace o: the ¢Tross-eXamiver as be pro- ds A yiest micilect appears to have been aroused and is activey at work. briluant expecte’. sere is 4 mind that rusts ig the aosence of 0; posing element acuve Meidl attrition kee,s up the snl. tng surface, and mases the sparks of genius fy. 5 comes, ana Beecher is congratulated un aii Bid) AN HOUR LATER he ls again on toe stacd, aud the two men are cuaBged. Fullertou ts io his full vigor. Hie bervousness has disappeared. The coor is re- wmored; ‘he voice—ever iow, melodious and ta- eipuating—is in prime and effective tone, The Witmess bas grown olcer: 4 reaction his occurred. The Vigor and origutues* of the forenoon are dimnisned; the Voice Is Weuker, Luderton lite Himseii on bis toes, looks at Lue Wicuess search. ng jnquites Who nvited him to visit Mra. From this point jorward to the end YR ADVANTAG fs with Paulie Ln laree or iouP times the wit- Bess loses ols tehiper; three or sour times he loves bis bead, wna where be might have me: and fuared toe enemy b) a trifiing exercise of thought Gud patience, ne talis back upon the painiuiy Wonotouous plea eaxy to anybody. THE RVIDENCE. At & quarter past cieven Mr. Gifect examita tou o citing t Inct that Henry a. Bowe ut to om Mevsage row General buter, was a son of Edward Bowen and nephew of Henry C, bowen. Me Ww Simply & Merseuger io tue macier. Mr. Beect procee: questioa ng, to contradict Moi ton’s ti Teletepce to Tiiton’s action ce ee had @- peated velore the committee ‘eferenoe to ‘ie $6,000 banded by Beequer Ww Mouitou jor Luton. elias Now, Mr. Beecher, do you remember a con- ation Wilich you had With Mr, Moulton, so ‘Which this mater vl the $5,000 was spokes viy a. do. @ When aid it take piace? A. Ithink it occurrea, Sir, On that same Sudoatl, afterward, when | came to Nis house, Lut Leaunot be defuitely cerrain vOut the tine, but it Was im that neignboriood; e AeKed Ine FUUdeD!y, alter We bad Leen talking amd another topic, if | bad named that inject ty any OOuy, and I said to him If haa; eutioned whom; ery jwir;’’ buts ‘arts resumed the uot charge that was wade—(hat he snoula be bia ab doa to whom? to Vliver Jonnson that] did fo, deca A. i diag; f sara J me jounseo, bind he bad Megs cs) pte wo Lor uy are ‘ jug siy vourse to Air, Tilton, wud 1 told hat he shouid deny to teil Mr. Moulton what you bad said or re. | um | that tt was not so; that I would always do any- | gregationalists in the Northwest regarding Tile | 1expressed regret at the occasion of my visit— thing Within reasonable bounds, and rhat | had recently advanced $6,009 to set the Golden Age aout. | A GENERAL DRNIAL OF CRIMINALITY. Q. In the early partof this examination when I brousht these matters to your atiention down to December, 1870, In relatiou to those parties, | in- quited of you woether there fad been any improper reiations between Mrs. Tilton and yoursell. | now ask you whether since t aud up te the commencement of this sui, | had been any improper relativns vetween Mra. | ‘iiton and yourseli? A, None at ail. ¢ | Did you ever ask any improper tavor ‘rom ber? A, Never, | Q. e@ you received any’ A. Never. §. Have ‘you bad any sexuai or carnal toter- a e with her [rom the period I nave named ¥ A, No, sir, |. Mr. Evarts—Wiull the stenographer read the last | few questions | have asked ¢ Mr. Andrew Devine, one of the official stenogra- | pbers, read the questions a8 asked, Mr. Evarts—Now, Mr. Beecher, 1 will ask you this question—Whether, irom your Urs’ acquaint- | ance with Mrs, Tilton uutil the present, you have | | ever hi y improper relations with her, or re- | ceived any favors irom her unsuitaole for ber as a | woman to grant, or whether you Dave ever asked her ior any? A: No, sir; I’ never bave. | has pever been anything between her and me | answering to anything implied or stated in your | question, [this auswer produced in court a dis- | tinct murmur of approval, out there was no at- | tempt at actual appiaus: | Q. Mr. Beecher, Mr. Tilton was asked this gen- | eral question atthe close of bis direct examina- tion—"Now | want to ask you this general ques- | tton, whether, from first to last, Mr. Beecher ever | gemied criminal imtercourse with Mrs Tilton?” and | he answerea “No”—I ask you with reference to that question aud that answer, whetber Mr, Tile | ton ever used to you or in sour presence any Jan- ) guage ot accusanon or imputation or intimation that there had ever been criminal iwtercourse be- tween yourself and Mrs. Tilton? A. He never did. Q. Now, the answer of Mr, Tilton proceeds with this statement :—*I would like (o amend my auswer | Wn regara to that by saying that woeu Mr, Beecher spoke of it he always said that the criminality at- | tacied tohim alone abd not to Mrs. Tilton, or in- sisted that she was not to blame.” Did you ever make any statement of that kind or effect iu con. nection with any aceusation, imputation or in- lmation of criminal intercourse between yourself and Mrs. Tilton, or in any answer that you inade to apy such accusation, imputation or iotimation ? | ‘0, sir, | never di . Mr. Moulton was asked at the close of his ree direct examimation, “Inere is but one otuer quesuon, abd it 1s tis—in avy of the conversa- tions your attention was called to on cross- examination by the other side’’—conversations ween Mr. Mouiton and Mr. Beecuer—‘id Mr, Beecher ever deny his sexual intercourse with Mrs, Ttlton ?? Now, sir, did Mr, Moultou, in all his intercourse with you, or In any of his conversu- tious Wita vou on the subject of your relations with Mrs. Tilton, or on any of the subjects cCon- | nected therewitn, thac formed topics 0: conversa- tion between you, at any time make any accusa- | tioa, or Imputauon, Or ntimation oO; sexual inter | course between yourself and Mrs. Tliton? A, He | | Dever did, This ended the direct examination, and at ten minutes pest twelve o’clock Mr. Ful.erton began THE CROS3-EXAMINATION OF MR. BEECHER, The witness faid:—When the Bible was pre- ted to me on tie stand | declined to swear upon it and J swore with upiiited hand, Has that been your custom? A, Taere has | been no custom aovut it, sir; { never took aa oath Until this suit began, except to swear to a docu- ment, and then band. . Did you appear belore the Grand Jury, sir? %, aa x Pb T Ys Q vid you not then swear om tne Gospels? A. 1 presume I did; I du not recollect distinctly that I dia, but I presume | did. Q. You did not then state you had conscientious scruples to be sworn upon the ticle? A, I have bo recollection; 1 have no recoliection whether I was then sworn on tue Bible. Q. What were your conscientious scruples when ‘oll Were asked to take the vath Oa the Blule? A. tdid not hapyea to me until alter 1 bad come into court, and heard the various witnesses, to examine tuto the oatn, and when I came to swear l seit I was unwilling to awear except by that iorm aiways swore Witn the uplifted which was my private right, 111 swore in tne or- | cinaly sense; to swear by God and not by any lower symbol of the divine presence, q. Do you know noW you swore to that docu. ment? ‘A. What docuweat, sir? Q. Lreier to your auswer in tnis case. A, I do not :ake your meantug, sir. Q. In the answer that you put in in this case, did you not swear on the Gospels when you uffixea our Dame to the paper ? 1 think not; J recol- ect when and where] was sworn, but! do not recollect swearing on the Gospels; I canuot re- coLect the jorm of the oath; Ihave a recoliection o: every form, but Icaunot recolect the Jorm in which [took the oucn; Hampsntire, and whatever was the form of oath Mppo ing to that Form: my wile may have goue Souta in toe early part of January, 187L q. Don’t you recoliect Mr. and Mrs. Tilton met your wie in Florida in January, 1871? A, Mr. Moulton spose to me of meeting Mrs. Beecher iu the south; Mrs, Beecher went out there early io the year; Mr. Mou!ton told me, in March or April, 187i, of meeting Mrs. Beecher South, vur I can’ | sel precisely tne time she leit for the South; if you let me look at my memoracdum J think I can Teli you (lOoks ut memorandum); 1 think Mrs. | Beecher returned in May, but I can’t be certain I cannot say Wuo was my housekeeper in M: isi. Q. Was it not your sister, Mrs, Perkins? A, Mrs. Perkins kept uouse jor me during two sea- sons, but I cannot give the date or the time. ‘Was ahe tue only sister who kept bouse for you during the absence o! Mra, Beecher? A. Sne was. | @ Can you now state Mrs. Perkins did not keep | nouse jor you whe Mra. Beecher wax in the | South! A. | cannot make anv degaite sta ent; at may bave Deen iM 1872 or 1873, but 1 do not ree | member; my daugi kept house tor me one | season abd Mrs. Perkins tor two seasons. Q When did you first hear that Taeogore Tilton bad falieu irem the orthodox Iuith? A. In that broad form 1 do not Boow that I heard it until a late period, but I heard suggestions as to his gerous tendeucies a3 early as 1865, Q ect? A. Loose in regard | to us tueological vie Q Did you bear it talked aoour? A. ¥: eariy as 1565; l ony thougat Le w: olng through thal fermentation of mind which every good ana ingenuous mas ought to go through when his | Wacitiouary belieis are changing to bis personal beliels. Q@ When did you believe tnat be bad got torouga! A. luever heard it; 1 bave heard be Was potorthodox tm his faith, and you ask me when be got througa that fermentation. Q. Did you not hear that be bad settled down to infidel notiwos? A. No; I heard that some of his articles in the /ndependent had excited comment in the Northwest. Q. Did you bear what those arti¢ies were? A, i never read the articles since they were puoiisheJ ; they were giving the idea of the catuolic nutious ol toe Independent aud the iirgen of its cath. olictt., and the comprehenst: 38 of the minds it meant to include, and | recollect very distinctly saylog that i regarded Mr, Tilton as stating what prububly was true apd safe in expressing only What Oa!dexcie the prejudices and the #larm or @ great many good men; | thonghe his sentiments UNsousd as BeDUMeENts Of policy; It Was a ques- tion of tne policy of the paper; I did oF tuink the criticisms of Dr. Edwara Seeecn sound, because his criticisms jell upon me; bought I Was responsible for the paper to @ degree; | uid the criticism, so far as any con- imputed to me; | do not recoliect now that lever metim the /ndependent or had my notice brought to aby artule in that paper dis- cussing doctrines opposed to me; 1 do not recall any aru xcept that which | criticised oo tue ground of the injudiciousness of tbe conduct of the paper or a partial or uniair statement of truths woico | thougdt he couid Have stated cou- ecientiously better; I had an impression (hat what are called the rigurous orthodoxy of New Eng- land aud the orthodoxy of whe Northwest were oppo-ed to Mr. Tilton, and that there was a grow- ing distavor to bis teachings; that was my «en eral impression: [ had aa ‘impression taat tne More fgorously ortaodox were still being set against him, aod that Mr. Tilton was being taken up by What was called the progressive wing of tee Chureh; [ aid not nave said tat [ thougnt bim to be public teacher Oo doctrinal matters, but from the time he assumed the chief management of the Independent in 1864 or 1365 I did Bot think of Dim in tue light of @doctrinul teacne: ; of him yn th i thoaght gut of one Who applied ethics to Was editor of the independent; rin the sense of being ome Kenee & religious 3 a8 4 religious paper, undvubdt- jase; ik promugated tie special ooccrine OF U anity when it Was under the control of Dr. con, Dr. Storrs and Dr. ihomp- son; afterward i¢ bad jallen jrom the grace of doctrinal teaching; it assumed a position of jar more vital etnics, and discussed living questions jrom the standpoint of Christian trutn; Lregarded Mr, Tilton a8 Veing iv @ transition state, and as jolding impertect Views, which would gradualiy pen aud vecowe furtiul, but | had hope o: nim im bis career, however mocn | might think ceriain arts of it Were Impolitic ana crude; undoubiedly think he expressed fis real seni iments in the ar- ticles in the Independent; | thiuk L fret heard complaint ugaing: him in regard to nie religious OF 1806; between 1865 and 186¥ Mrs, Tilton cousnited we a8 to Whether it Was sare Jor ber to bing Up her Colldrea woder such tutu. euces as Mr. Liton exerted; | learned trom her at that time More or less of (ue divappearance of his jaith in tue divinity of Curist, wud L learned aiso from tim that be Was ineived to What might ve Called wo GUoeie! In the Inspiration Of the scrip- tures, and what is cailed @ loose Gocirine of in- Spiration; I regarded bis notions about tie do trine oO; the Givinity of Christ as Worse than loose ; 1 hought it to be heretical; [ ‘Bed this prior to 136, Dat I will not ve positive; L Shougat tl he was At the Head Of a theological migazive he was ine ia POsnion, Dat that at the of @ puper that vid Bot Uudertake to ex. potud theology but apply Christian etuics, I dud HOt See anything vbsectionadie ia rhat; | did nos u MS lee Well ehuugn, Out it was tulerable~it M cy paper; it pas: ediy, among to be endures, read @ statement made by effect that Tilton’s opiuions in ¢ haa Caused @ storin Oo! iudiguation in the Northwest and ied to tne sta:tiug o1 hug ue this was Fp deaf tru ie \ndiguaion among Oe } Mr, Beecher said | Mere was a storm oF ‘There | Ltook tne oatn in New | it was adminis:ered to me accord- | | ton’s views In the Independent; I disclauued all | responsivity jor Tilton’s views to my brother | Haward, Who wrote nea very severe letter; wy | brotner Edward was then fiving in limois; | was Indiguant at Mr. Bowen for the course taken iu iis paper; 1 heard no remonstrance except jrom my brother Edward; I was indignant at the Jact, Kuowing that there Was an uprising through- out the Northwest on the sudject; my brother Edward ina tetter to me undertook to bold me responsible for Mr, ‘Tutou’s Views and for tie pub- licanoa of them inthe paper; 1 should be mndige pant at being held respousibie tor anyoody’s views and oemy heid blameworthy tor them; i [ am rizitiy mormed the advance Was started only partly ‘or the purpose of superseding the Indepen- dent, partly growing with tne Judependent, Mr. Beecher was then tnterogated briefly in re- gard to Mr, He stated that be regaraed tuose views as betog in thelr tendency very wisenievous, much too loose; irom what te heard in the community he regarded his doctrines as dangerous; he began | to shadow forth loose views on morais and doc; trines; *1,’? continued Mr. Beecher, ‘understood | consulted me as to whetber tt was safe tor her to | bring up her chiidreb under such docirines of mar- came up very frequentiy.’’ Mr. Beecher wi then questioned as to whether he had gone out to ride in & buggy wita Ms, Tilton, He said he had on two occasions; be thought 1t was in the early part of 1872; the ride in each instance Was, he thought, In @ ougry; be did not remember tbat either be or Mrs, /ton alighted from the ougay during the r.de; | on both occasions he thinks they drove to the Park; | beiore that he thinks he had taken some rides with Mrs, Tilton, but he had no recollection of them definitely; he did not toink they went to Greenwood; he could not say where he got the carriage irom, nor could he say who tue driver was; lie did not recollect if any other person accompanied them; he recollected two rides io the buggy with Mr. Tilton and none others; he believed he made other rides, but could not recall ihem; be did not recail riding out at any time when any of the cnildrea secompanied him; does not revollect riding out in 1868 in a close carriage | with Mrs, Tilton; bas no recollection o/ Mrs, Tilton leaving the carriage at any otuer than her own residence; thinks ‘3. Tilton never visited bim at Peekskill—certainly not while he was there; has a vague recollection that Mrs. Tilton accompanied him to a photographic gallery; has no recollection that sie | Was present while his picture Was being taken; had spoken oO! a Visit to Mrs, Tilton iu August, 1870; Uxes the date by having investigated 1 thougut if was in July, but tound it was in Ane gust—early in August; rec*ived a note from Mrs, | Tilton requesting bim to visit her; had looked tor that note, but could not tind bad no doubt it | was losc: tn that note Mrs. Tilton Informed nim that sue Was ili; that she would be giaa to see Dim ti be Was coming to the city: bis impression Was that he was coming down Irom Peeksxtil the | next day. and that he came on the joint errand; | Was in Lhe habit of visiting some of his parish- joners during vacation~-Mr. Ciafin and others; Wonla visit them il there was a iuneral or sick- | peso; 10 N18 Visit Mrs, Tilton be found her on her couch in the receiving room on the second Story; the visit lasted about haif an hour; could thinks he must have returned the next day; called to see ber juore than once—about the sume hour nex* day—but did not see ber; has notin Ws pos- Session, that he Knows, a singie one of Mrs. Tiiton’s letters that have not been produced in evidence; be had searched his howse with his eyes and jound uone; hau not returned, to nis knowleaxe. any letters that Mrs, Tilton wrote to him; she had | not returoe! any letters to him, to his knowledge; | he bad not received any; on the second occasion | when he called oa Mrs. Tilton she seat nim down a Scrap Of paper on Which there was willing; he did | not preserve Unat; be did not kaow what becanie | Of it, as De was nov a preserver of ietters or papers. | Yue Court here took # recess until tWO O'clock, | APTER RECESS. | The pews that Beecher was under cross-ex- amination brought many more than the audience of the forenoon back to the court room. hiouiton, who had been absent in the morning, came in and | took a seat next to Tilton, ‘Tne witness ascended the stand promptly on returning, and Fuilerton | Wentto work with a much cooler method than betore. case by asking the witness who was it invited him | ness answered, “Mr, Tilton,” and corrected himself the next moment by saying he mistook the ques- — tion as referring to the year, not the montn. In that mouth he had been invited to see Mrs, Tilton by Mrs, Morse. Fullerton was gradually setting himself into the saddle and tne witness for the tirst | time was beginning to feel the sharp spur of cross- examination, “Give us that interview between | you and Mrs, Tilton and Mrs, Morse.’? Fullerton returned a hundred times to the charge, cooler, brighter, sharper than ever he showed himself before, The witness did not shine at this crisis. His voice lost its irmness and acquired a slightly plaintive tone. For a moment he was combative aud turned on bis imterlocator, who would insist on repeating a question several | times. “I cannot, sir, give you any other answer.” This with an angry growl, like a lon at bay. | INTERPRETING MRS. MORSE, ‘The witness received a letter from Mra, Mor | which contained several allusions to the “crush- iog trouble’ under which Mrs. Tilton was labor- ing. Counsel read it clause by clanse, pausing, and, with significant lovks ard emphasis, asking the witness if he knew what this sentence and that meant, The answers were invariably, “I can- or “T do not know,” but he had a theory, ‘e don’t want theories.” “Well, then (angrily), Tcannot give you the answer.” THE CRO28-RXAMINATION OF MR, BERCNER RESUMED. Q. 1 now col to your it to Mrs, Iflton in December, 1870; by whom were you requested to jan that visit? A, By Mrs, Morse, through Bessie urner. Q. Where did Bessie come to you witn that re- quest? A. To my house. Q. And whet did Bessie say? A. Sie said she | had catied at Mrs. Morse’s request, who wisned me to come to her house and see her, that Mra, ‘Tilton was Were and that sne had jeit her ti A. No; 1 then expres astunispment at such a state of affairs, He proceeaed to speak. in strong and positive lan- guage, of the injustice done to Mrs, Titton. | Q. What did sne say? A, She said that Mrs. Tilton had been so treated by Mr. Tit that she jot thought she ought to take some such steps, that she Was jastified in taking such steps, chat Tilton bad abusea her and that Tiltun had struck her, near! to see him in—— A. I cannot give the Q. Give the substance. giving a declaration that Tilton in hts passion on cuaracter to her, Bessie, aud that he had on two cripgion of the uature of those solicitations ; some more than this, that it was just as mach au ex- ly own language, but y I don’t giv Bessie descrining the passion she was accustomed Q. Give the words. words. A. Ihave been giving the suostanec>. Q You are giving a descriptuon. A. I was ove occasion struck ber—that ae had done more— that he bad made soiicitattons of an improper occasions done so; i said something to her, that there must be a mistake; she gave Ine some des- statement of it, that Tilton came to lier bed, and told her that the matter of his solicitation was no pression of love and affection as kisses and caresses; I think that phrase 1s vel ner nerall b language, Q Give aii that was said at that interview, A. I don't at this moment recall more than this in substanc You said in your direct examioation that Bessie gave this information with downcast looks? A. Yes. Q With modesty? A. Yes. @. Did she state anything else? A.I don’t now recali anything more; Il casnot give turcher the Particulars or the language. Q. id She not tell you what she had berself seen? A. She told me sbe had seen Tilton treat- ing bis Wile With great raJeness aod cruelty; it Was all about bis abuse of her. Q. Do you remember that at that time you were gteatiy shocked atit? A. Yes, | Was snucked. Q. Did you believe all that Bessie Turner tos you? A. yes, I supposed it was so, Q. Dia you believe it was true? A, I believed it ust @ & Man oelleves What he has not yet proved; believed generally it Was so. (. Did Bessie Turner Visit you more than once attoat time? A, } caunot say as to that, sir;] ve Visit, Q bw you anytoing that Mr. Tilton had to his wile? A. She may bave done go, bat 1 vapnot recall it. mesmage ? A. I toid ber I would come, aua I went either chat day or the uext. . Where did you fod Mrs, Tilton whea you called? A, At her mother’s, Q,. Had the relations between yourself and Mr. Tilton been iriendiy at that time? A, | cam hardiy gay We had been intimate; there was an external irieoulimess: that external frendioess Was cere on my part; he nad my bes: wishes and my kindest wisnes; 1 feit iriendiy to bim. Q. When did you last see bim previous so that visit? A, kdon’r recollect that { had seen him to fn revious t» ta but I did Ot stop to speak to wim. Q. There haa been noopen rupture between you? A, No, Q No expression of ill-feeling’ A. No, @ On the occasioa of your visit to Mrs, Moulton who aid you find there? A. Mra, Moree and Mrs, Tilton; I taink they were together, if not when J entered they were Very soon uiter. z ‘{p@t Was @ mMemoravie Visit Was it aot? A. es. Q. It impressed itself on your mind?’ A. Yes. q Cam you give the particulars of what oc A. 1 cannot, » Do the best to recall the particniars of that virlt irom the time you entered tili you ieit. A, Lentered imvo some conversation with them; [ atog what bad Drougot me, aud expressed some A te What You wald, A, 1 Gammot regal ally ne | out of the dissausiaction | Tilton’s views upon marriage and | he had loose notions on some subjects; Mrs. {iiton | riage and divores, but I don’ think that that | oi Bay if he returned to Peekskill the same day; | He plunged directly into the heart of the | to visit Mrs. ‘rilton in December, 1870, The wit- | at did you do when you received that | | that there should be any seesmaerstaine be. tween Mrs. Tilton aod her husband; Mrs, Morse ont the mostof the. taiking, and she, in her pra tical, incisive, earnest Way, gave me some state- meant. Q. What was that statement? A, give it. Q. ‘The substance ? A. 1am proceeding to give the substance; the substance was that her daugh- ter had lived a iif of great unhappiness; that she Was sunjected to great cruecty aud privations, and that her tfe with Tilton had become in twierable to her, and thatshe had come to the con- clusion to separate irom hit, | Q What did she say the crueity consisted of ? | A. I cannot say, Q. vid she say the cruelty consisted of blows or words? A. I don’t Know that she charged him with having struck her. Q. Cun you recall what she said with respect to the nature of the crueity? A, Violence of temper— that he failed to be a good provider ior her jam- 1 cannot hy—it ranged —— Q. Give Us the particulars : we will take the range ourseives ¥ A. 1 Would be glad to recall the par- tculare, but I cannot. Q. Make an effort. A. I will endeavor to do so, | Q. In that conversation did wot Mrs. Morse say | that Tilton charged her (Mrs, Tilton) with conduct unbecoming a Wile? A, 1 don’t recollect any such | language. _ Q Was anything said by her about the house- | Keeper ? A, L cannot say whether | heard anytuing | soon the hoasekeeper on that occasion or aiter- | ard. _ _Q What did Mrs. Tilton say on that occasion ? | A. She said very little. | atk What was that like? A, It was an accusa- jou, | Q. What aid she say? A. I don’t recollect single sentence that sie spoke; Mrs. Morse wai the spokeswoman, nat Was the subject of conversation at that interview ? A. hey wanted advice from me, Q. On what subject? A, On the subject oi per- petuatung the separation that had begun; that is all t can recall of the conversation, | Q Did you remain in the room with them | throughout the interview? A, 1 aid; as to the | @Xtento! the interview 1 don't think tt exceeded | haltan hour. | _Q. Did you believe what Mrs. Morse toid you? | Yes. Q. And what Mrs. Tilton told you? A, The im- | pression ou my mind was that tliey bad tola the truth; 1 suppose I believed it, | Q. Did hot that impression amount to the dig- | nity of belief? A, Not towbsolute certainty; waen | L bear ove side of # story | judge of it by its prova- bilities, ahd If Is AM approximate belief. q. Did you predicate any advice to what you | hau heard? A, Yes; tuat she sould see my wile, | Who was a much better adviser on domestic | aftairs than 1 Was. | Q,. Did she see your wife? A, Yes, the next day; don’t know what passed at that interview; i mints that Were made either ton, | can’. recall any compi | by Mrs, Morse or Mrs, | Q What occurred as the resuit of toat inter- view velore you ieft? A, Nothing but that I prayed with them; we also concluged to go home | and tak the matter over aud decide upon what advice we should give tuem, | @ Youdid go to them uaner? A, Yes; my wife | went aloue; We talked the matter over more or | less, L holding 1! best not to break up tne jamliy relutions, Su@ inclining, irom what bad been tuld | her, to be: that Mrs. Tilton ought not to con | tinue iiviag with ner husband, aud that was @ | Matter of some Consideravie interchange uf views | between us, but at the Jast moment, when she | Was about to go, sue asked me What my last word | was; there vas compauy in the room anal wrote | 04 a litte scrap vi paper und banded it to ner. Q. ‘ihis 18 What you wrote, “I am inclined to think that your view is right, and tuat a separa | oa, with settiement and support, was tue | Wisest ?? A. Tat is it, 4 think—a part of ic. | Q Now, what did Mrs, Beecher state to you Mrs, («Morse had oid her wita regard tu this disagrec- | went? A, Laon't taluk my wile toid me the de- | tats; [know ste did not teil me the decalis of her | conversation with Mrs. Tilton; 1 gave my advice | lor Lae separation on account O01 Waat Mrs. Mors hau told me the previous day and my Wue’s judge ment, | Q. And you acted on your wife’s judgment with- out getung all Che facts on Waich ‘that judgmeut Wus predicated’ A. 1 didin a very considerabi> | degree; 1 nad very great confidence in ber judg- | ment on suca things. Q How long hud you been acquainted with Mr. | Ton? A, Some twelve or fiteen years. I tuk. | Q. Belore yiviug tuat advice you had'ut seeo | Tifton A, No; Lnad not seen him nor did I com- | municate with num in any Way. | MKS. BEBCHKR AND MKS. TILTON’S INTIMACY. | Q Woat degree oi sntimacy had existed be- tween Mrs. Beecher and Mrs, iiiton up to that ; tmeft 4. No great intimacy; they were on \ Iviendly relations. | Q, Haa Mrs, Beecher been in the habit of visit- ing Mrs. Tilton at ner house? A. Her health was such that soe could visit but little any where. . Had Mrs Tiiton been in tne habit of visiting | Mrs, Beecher? A. Yes; she cuiled upon her sey- | eral times; Can’l say Lhat She Visited Ler im 1870 | or 1:69; 1 cau’t give any date as to any of her | visite; 1 have uo record of the time; can’c | that Mrs. Beecher hau visited Mrs. filton within | three years prior to this interview at ner house, | | A SHARP OROS3-EXAMINATION, “That is Dot ao answer to my question, Mr. Beecher, said Mr. Fallercon, with painial | acerbity. The mass of listeners thought the wit- ness had given @ reasonably direct answer. It | Was plain tbat counsel intended this should be no | rosewater inquiry, bu: a terriply cold-blooded nqut sition, y. You bad some corversation with Mrs. Tilton a@t the house at tus time? A, Yes. Mr. Failerton (reading)—*'I have @ recollection Of oaly One single tung {said to Mrs, Tilton when alone, ‘How isittnat I nave been so lvag with You and you never aliuded to me about tue dis | less in your housegoid?’ and she sh ceaied it because Sue thought it would pass away; 1 gave ber counsel, telling her to exeicise | patience, and said, ‘Let patieace have her per. | Ject Work,’ aod 1 joinea with her im prayer;’ is | hat tea A. That is true. Q That wus aiter you heard what Mrs. Morse | bad sau? A. Yes, sr; and what was said the | mext day. | Q@ Aud notwitnstanding that advice you the neXt day counselled separation? A. I did. . | Wik Dow call your attention to Mrs, Morse’s s = y | letver (reading)—"i did not think for a moment Wheo | asked dirs, B. as to your Call there, sup- posing sue knew it, of coarse, and sne said you | would not go there without v' do you what call Mrs. Morse revers to in that passag read jurther, “i Was ingocent of making auy mis understanding, if there was any!’ A. Ido not Tecall WOat it meant. A PIVOTAL POINT | seemed to be reached, The witness apprenendea it, He cailed for a satchel of ms containing a memorandum, and taking it out at the same mo- | Ment as counsel took up a letter of Mrs, Morse's, began to busy bimseli with its pages, The letter was shown him:—“ls that memorandum on tne back im your hand writing?” of it 15 in Mr, Moultun’s and part of it isin mine, and both ook bad enouga.”’ Counsel was aiming | to make it appear that the witness, in place of recommending Mrs. Tilton to separate ‘rom her husband was advising a contrary course, but the witness put ia a non ri ricordo piea and notoing Was gained. | _ Q Does Mrs, Morse there refer to Mrs. Beecher? | A. 1 presume so, Q. Had you advised Mrs, Morse to keep quiet to an | Fecullect; 1 never asked ner to be quiet concern- | Iag any call of mine, Q. Can you not explain her langu spect? A. 1 caunot, Q You don't understand it as referring to the cali made tn pursuance o: the communivation by Mrs. Morse turouga Bessie Turner or to tue cali by you and Mrs, Beecher on the following day? A. [ | don’t erstand any part of Mrs, Morse’s letter. The jetier of Sirs, Morse got into the nands | of Mr, Moulton? A, Yes; itgot to him; I either sept it to him or carried it mysell. Q, Are you avle ty state trom your indorsement When it Was received by you or When It was sent? A. Lcan’t tell Whetier this ismy writing or not; | there is so litile oftt; part of it is in Mr. Mouiton’s and part in mine, avd they voth look bad enough, yOu sole tu siate Whether subsequent to . December nd prior to the writing pK letter of Mra, Morse, you called on Mra. Ti 01 in this Tee A. Ne Q Could it be possible for you to cyil upon her Ly ew trouvious times and not recollect it? A. might. & Had not Mr, Tilton about this time refused ‘ou the house? A. I cannot recali that ue did, but have an impression tout such was conveyed tu me; My impression ta it Was simply an injunction; M1 ever caled at the house after tnat injunction { have Certalu.y torgotien it. Q. You recollect say:ug this in the same etter | oi webruary—"O1 again Without his permission, au Whether it would not be better not to do sot”? | Yea, because either at the time of that letcer ro Mr. Bowen or im the tmmediute vicinity of it, 7 ton, a8 J bave un impression of it, sentme word by Mr. Bowen, tnouga | am not c 1 that, lorbiading me ever to eater his house again, Q. You say you toox wuis leiter to Mr. Mouitoa? A. Tovk it or sentit, Q Did you nave any.conversation with Mr. Moulton tu regord to ity A. 1 have no recoliec+ tou Of @ conversation With bit On the sabject of the ciause of the letter you :elerrod to, » Do you recollect ma Moulton that Tuiou Bad di to him by Mrs, M persous of ¢! A. Ido not, q Was that clause of the Cousideration between you aud Moultun? A, 1 dou't recollect that it was, Q. Did not Tiltoa explain to you and give you the nuiMes Of (he persous to Whom he wad tuld | the story? A. No, sir, neither a4 to his Lavin, Told it (0 Mis, Bradshaw, Oliver Joinsou or Mr, Mair butions W Gal) your attention to BE | tabi’ Kon 'k Bowl ass 400 Wavther vou sasa “I thiok not; part — caji of yours upon Mrs. Tilton? A. idon’s | | w Understood, at the time of the reception of . Morse’s letter, these allusions, therein mado— | “to tins recent and most crushing of ull the trou- bie,” and the fact, it was alleged, that Mr. Tilton | had told it to twelve persous? 'A. What?—did I | understand your question ¢ | _.Q. Did you understand at the time of the receipe | of that letter what Mrs, Morse alluded tot A. can’t say Irom my recollection that | dia. | Q Have you any doubt at the time of the re- ceipt of that letter you understood her allusions? | A. Have | now any doubt ? | Yes, now. Utpresame I aid understand them—thut 18, not correctly, necessarily, but that | lgnad an understanding, | Q Did you refer to them ip the answer to the letter’ A, I can’t say that I did, Mr. Fuilerton—I will read ii. Mrs. Judge Monse :— My Deak MADAM—TI should be very sorry to have you think T had no interest in your troubles, My course tow- | ard you hitherto should satisty you that I have syupa- thized with your distress, But Mrs Keecher aud TI, alier | iull consideration, are of one imind—that, under present ; circumstances, the greatest Kindness to you and to all will be, so lar 4s We are concerned, to leave to time the Fectification of all the wrongs, whether they prove real | or itnuginary. | Mr. Pullerton—I believe thatis the last; the rest | is stricken oar, . You didn’t ask her for any explanation of anything that she bad inserted in her ietrer to yout A, Do you ask me whether I did ? . Yi A. I did not, to my recollection, QT | axk you One other question in regard to this letter. ‘tle (meaning Tilton) swears so soon ag her breath leaves her body he will make this whole thing pubiic, and this prospect, 1 immk, 1s one thing that k her iiving.”’ Did you know the time what she referred to there’ A. 1 pre- sume Idi’, but 1 can’t say 1 recollect I did. 9. Did you kuow a servant in the employ of Mrs. Tillon by the name of Kate Carey? A, Idid not. You didn’t know one of tuat name? A, Laid no THE SCBNE RICHARDS Saw. Richards, the brother of Mra, Tilton, swore he visited the house one day and caught Mr. Beecher and his sister in au embarrassing situation or somethimg to that effect, Suspense filed the court roon) as Witness answered the question did he see Richards on an occasion of that kind? “I did not,” “Will you swear Kicaards never saw you with Mra, Tilton?’ ‘1 will not.’? (Sensation.) Q Mr, Beecher, were you jn the habit of visit- | ee M on in the absence of Mr. Tilton? A, es, sir, Q. How frequently did yon make such visits? A. Lcan’t say now irequentiy. Q Weill, give us an approximate idea of Dumber or their irequency. A. 1 should s: | general that, with the exception of one season, I | Went to see her once in two or three weeks, un- (less there Was some special reason for going | oltener; there was one season in which | was re- | quested to, and that season I went oftener, | Q Bo you recollect caliing upon Mrs. Tilton | on an vecasion immediately subsequent to your calling upon a family by the name of Wheelock ¢ A. laon’t tiunk I can say Ido, and yet there is something 1n my mind alter all aboutit; 1 can’t | tell precisely what it 18. | Q. Pernaps I can recall it to your recollection; I | lead from “Exhibit 91 :—*To-day has been a quiet | | day; Beecher cajled; he 1s in fine spirits wak- | ing cal he devoces Weanesdays and Loursdays | | til further notice; has 80) to make; made twenty to-day; enjoys it immensely: culled on tue Wnee- | lock’s to-day and kissed them all round, Lucy | | the y in | Wood inciuded ;” do you recollect of the circum- | stance? A, Yes, sir. Q. Did you kiss Lerin the presence of the ser- vants? A, Not tuat I ever recollect. Q. Isit true twat you did not kiss her in the | resence of the childien and servants and did | he found that the paper was being !ujured by Me. ‘Tilton’s editorial course—that was the substance | that he had at last been obliged, reluctantly, 10 dispossess him from the editorit chair, bur thar he thought he could retain lis services as D2 Cols uibutor, and make him almost as useful as if he were ediior—in substunce that—that no soouer, however, had it become known that ke aud Mr, ‘Tilton had so far disagreed as taat be had been made & contributor rather than editor; then he was cougratulated by various irtends, and that they began to teil him stories about Mr, Tilton which astonished bim, and that De was annoyed to Hud how many persons knew ill things of bin: be mace tue remark that the stories poured in on him ike clouds; he went oh to instance many of them: ne alluged to the Winsted affwir; he alluded to an alfair yo tne Nortawest, which he didn’t go ito nor explain; he gave me ab account Of an vecurrence that took place in his own office; 1 also expressed to him my astonisie ment and said that 1t was painfully verified in some knowledge that had been conveyed to me; I told him of the visit toat had been inade to me by Bessie Turver, and the substance of her states ment; I told him that there were rumors afloat respecting another person, which L heard oj from various sides, but I didn’t know vow much wuth there was in them, and that I aiways hoped for the bestin regard to such things; he then went on to say (hat ME. TILTON WAS NO FRIEND OF MINE; that when he was discussing with Mr. iltom tht subject of bis Changed relations in the paper, Mr. ‘Vuton’s eXpressions aud manner indicated greas feeling against me; 1 expressed my leelings about Mr. Tilton, my long acquaintance with him, my exceeding regrets at the way thiogs were SBaping themseives; [ told him that I tuougnt chat io nis relations vo the Independent ms judgment was just in regard to them; tout [ nad been of opinion for some time that Mr, Tilton’s relations as editor were taking the paper out of the oid channel, religious channel (of its financial matters { koew nocbing), that the Piper was always —its tuterests were alway-—dear To me because uf my long connection with it from its foundation, and that my impression was that he scarcely would stop with Mr. Tilton upon tis contributory platform; he then spoke of the Brooklyn Union and said he had been turning 16 in tis mind whether be coud continue fim there even, and made some statements which 1 cane not recall; T said thac it didn’t seem to me that & man that was tamted could PEeoee aay paper of is, and that 1 didn’ bee teve that Mr. Tilton was @ man that could wore with men uniess he Jed them, and that as a cone trioutor to the republican joursal in Brookiya L thougit he would be impracticabie and would be getting the paper into troavle continually; we toen Tetur to some other topics touche ing morais, and I said voat my wile was better acquaintea than 1 was with some parts ol Tiltou’s alleged — history, and that if he would see her I thought it would perhaps give him some light on it; soon alter be lett, Souking hands with me Very cordiaity. saying he would be iy iriend whatever might bape pen as the result of this Message; that is Lhe SO0+ stance, as near as | can just now recall it. Q YOU BELIKVED WHAT MR. BOWEN TOLD YOU that night, didn’: vou? A, Lad Q. And the observation that you made in regard to the propriety of continuing Dim as eduor ur ag ad O! the Independent waa,in good faith t . Yes, sir, q Now, “Mr. Beecher, what, feeling did that leiter of the 26th, written by Mr, Tilton to you demanding that you should jeuve the pulpit and quit sroukiyn, excite in you? A, Weil, it excited 1u me the feeling that the man Was beside hime sell, Q. Peel that is was an insult? A, Yes, sir, cere tainly in that category I should say. Q. You didn’t know of any cause he had for making that demand upon you? A, No justuyiug cause, Q. And therefore yon felt indignant that he it is not true as Ll unaerstand your questiou. Mr. Beach—It calls tor a mere act. Mr. Puilerton—{ dou’t know how you under- | etund the question; it’s about as plain as | can | make at. Did you not poxpotely omit to Klas her in the presence of the child:eo or the servants ? | | A. No, sir, Ldid not; in the presence of tne cnil- | dren certainly not. | Q. Did you ever kiss her in the presence of Florence, the eldest daughter? A. 1 don’t recol- lect ever having seen Florence there, but I have | no doubi | have done it. | KISSES AGAIN. When and where and how and in whose pres- ence he kissed Mrv. Tilton, Well, be kissed her | many times, Never, as he could recollect, in’ pres- | | ence of the servants and children. He mignt have | | kissed her in presence of Fiorence. Every eye is — now on the witness, There ts pity for im in many | faces. The cross-examinafion is no ciitid’s play. | It differs irom the other examination as the gentle | ripples On asummer lake differ from the storm- | lashed billows of an angry ocean. | Q Tread to you from “Exhibit 74,"’ being a | ter of Mrs, Tilton to her tusbana. dated December 28, 1866. In speaking of yoursel( (Mr, Beecue:) | | she says:—"During these early years the mention | of bis name, to meet iw, oF, better stil, a visic from him, my cheek would fusn with pleasure | an experience common to aii lis parishiouers of both sexes, Jt1is not strange, then, dariiug, that 00 @ more intimate acquatutaoce my dellwot aud | pieasure have increased.” Lo you recollect of | any Instance In which these things were apparent | on the part of Mrs. Tilton when you visited ner? | | A. What thiags ¢ | | Q Toat | NER CHEEK WOULD FRUSH WITH PLEASURE? =| | | | | | igs her Woen nettuer were | resent’ A. No, air, | A. Yes, sir. = You did not construe that mto any undue | | afec | Q Lread irom exnidit 100, tion ior yout. A. I did Dyt. August 15, 1869, dated ) Du you recullect giviag her | at Monticello—“Mr. Beecher wrote me a@ very sum- A ibe pase sane lg patent oe Bad mery characteristic letter, whien 1 would encivse o ber that 1 thought, with w ing of | ® ior fn t you Would jose it""—ao you a would be abie to bear up yet; sane was Teco! “if 3g att A, No, sir; Ldon’t recoil ve spondent. | . @ Dia you ay this to her, “Let patience have pcos shes tet Ver meee = it wor mrt re 4 aia ere pong ial mets | ‘stand you to say, Mr, Beecher, you un rein the city of Brooklyu On the 10th o1 Octo. | ber, 18471863 I mean, 1968. Huw do you reco lect that sou Were in town on that day? A, Weil, 1 only recollect now becanse my attention has vee called to it aud reiresn my memory by con- aud apy réiresned | versations and doctmcnts, memory is that I was in town. Q. Aud you recoliect, | believe, of being in town sigo on tie 17th of the same montana? In the same way [ remewver It. @ DID MRE. TILTON EVER VISIT YOU aT YOUR Bo jOU8E during Mrs. Beecher’s absence? A. I do not re- | cali that sre ever aid, . | Q Will you swear that she did not visit your | house ¢ I will not, Q. Can you say she didn’t visit your house on the 17th of Octover, 1863% A. 1 can’t say 80, sir, but I don’t reco lect that she aid. Q. Do you recollect wether or not you visired Mrs, Tuton on the 10th of October at her own dwelling A. I don’t recollect that I did. | Q. ban you say you did not? A, I cannot. Q. LBuw come to the letter of the 26tn of De- cember, 1870. Where were you wheo Mr. Bowen deliverea that letter to your A, At my house, | . Add On What day of the montu was it? A. 1) think it was the 26th, sir, | Q On the day the letter bears date? A, Yes, | sir: I think It was that day; I say I think, because it 134 question in ms mind whether the 26th or the 27tn; | tociine tu believe it was the 2uth, Q. What degree of intimacy had existed between you and Mr, Bowen just priorto the detivery of | that letter by nim to your A, Very littie; taere had been no intercourse between us. | Q. Weil, of wast character? A. Mostiy an inter. | course jn relati.n to public affairs, |. Q Had you exchanged ir.endiy visits? A, [had been at his invitation at his nouse in Woodstock iu order to be present when General Grant shoud | make his visli toere, Q When was that? A, I think that was in the summer of 1870, and Mr. Bowen rer d me to be one of bis guests. Q. Was there any coldness ex! ig between ou and Mr, Bowen just prior to tne 26th of ecember, 1870? A. Yes, sir; Om my part, | Q Had he visited you at your dweiling in Brook- , lyn? A, He haa not. | | q Are you quite sure? A. 1 will not say never; I will gay it Wacn’t his habit. Q. Aré jon quite sure this letter was aellverea at yourdweiug? A. Lam. Q Or was ic deliveret at Mr, Freeland’s house? | A. No, sit; at my house. Q How Jar apart did you and Mr. Bowen live at | that time? A, Weil avout a biock—a block and hair, | Q Did you not think it somewhat strange that he should be tne bearer of @ letter trom Theodore — to ‘x In the first instance? es, A. No. ) He bavn’t oeen in the habit of performing the office of postman, letter carrier, bad net a. bad not, sir, but we can . NEVER TELL WHAT A MAN MAY DO. | No, Lam fluding tnut out, Did you read the | letter 10 his presence? did. | Was it sealed or unsealed?’ A. It was sealed. q Are you quite sure ne said to you | know the contents of that letter? A. L Q And What did you do immediateiy alter read- ing itt A. Do you mean what didl say? Idid nothing except to express myself, Wel, then, Why don’t you teil me what you said? A. That L witido with peasure; I said, “fms is sheer insanity; this a is crazy,” or Words to that effect. Is thatall? A, Ihat was my remark, q@ And what did Mr, Bow iy? A. Mr, Bowen hen said fe Wasn't aware What (he contents he had me: taken it at Mr, Tilton’s re- quest; he Was on o y home, aud that was the substance O| nis remark. Q. Were you satisied with that explanation? A. OF course L Was, Q. Well, sabsequent to the receiving of that let- ter what conversation did you have? A. Aiter the letter was laid aside we proceeded to tuik upon Mr, Tilton aud bis reiations, | Q@ | Want to K.ow what was said; you are giv- ing me the subject o: the conversation Without giving the coaversauion 1 nat 19 the texc: I | want to know ti rmon. NOW 1 WILL PREACH, the conversation; | am trying to think it begao with me or with oim; he said a been baving futerview with Mr. Tilton, and What the steps of the conversation @ didu’t were that led toit l can’t cell you, t came to this; be begaa to teil me avout the steps wien be bad taken to dispossess Mr, /itou Of lis edilu- Tial position, Q Now, ur, Beeoner, don't yi to tell you; tell me Woe | cay tiie wuontanoe T ay re | praser meecing in your place? | nd be gentlemen still. wrote such a letter to you, and sentit ID that way, did you? A, I was greatly surprised, sir, q.’ Weil, leave tne surprise out til we get throngh with tne indignation. Task you whetuer you didn’t Jeelindignant?’ A. Pure and simpie. Q, Did you eel indignant? A, Partolit Was 1D» dignaney, t. Did you feel anger? A. No, sir, indignation, q You settled down upon your indiguatiout A. Oli, no, sir; 1 settled down on my Work. Q@. Gn your’ work: very well. Now when did you next see Mr. ‘Tilton? A. I think toe nox time I saw Mr. ‘Tilton was at Mr. Mouiton’s house, on tue 8000 of December. . OF the same mooi’ A, Of the same Month, . I think you have stated that Mr, Mouitoa calied upon you With &@ message Irom Mr. ‘Tiltout A. Yes, sir. ‘ Q. And | velleve it was on Friday nignt? A, Oa Friday night, sir. Q When had you last seen Mr. Mouiton before | that? A. Well, sir, I can’t exuctly say; bacwy impression 18 I hadn't seen nim since 1869; thus was (he time [sat to Mr. Page. q Then you were not intimate with him? A, No, sir, | Was acquuimted with him, but Dot inte mate. q. Well, what aid he say to you when be came in orate jood evening, sir.” A. y Well, what Jolloned that? A, Well, sir, I said “Guod evening,” too. (Lauguter). Jusge Nellson—Gentieweu, you will please ve quiet, ; The Witness—Do you wisn me to state tne sub studce ol the whole interview? Q if 1 did not wisn it Isavuld not have asked for it? A. I am so constantly afraid of dome | wrong— q You can’t do right. That is an unfortunaie coudiuon to getinto. I want you to tell us the whole o: that interview, and tax your recollesuon 80 as to give itin detail, A, ft was miorely tuat Mr. Tiltou had requested bim to Cull, asked Bi 'o come down and see me, was the suvstance of It; 13 1 thea said to mit, ‘Woy Mr, Moulton, it my Friday night meeting, and it would be inconvenient forme todo so,” He Stance, “L think the matter 1s of saiiiciens im- portance’ lor yoa to jurego your meetipg” aad isaid, ‘Well, 1 can get somebody—Mr. Beil Kves | near oy—I can get some one to cake my meeting; | anal either culled on «rt seut to Mr, Bell, and | Laccompanied him. {he conversation was about that, q Well. Mr. Beecher, the Friday night prayer Meeting to liymou church is ao important Jeature lnits services? A. it is now tar more than it was then. Q. Was itimportant then? A. It was important. Q Dia you not tine it A LITTLE BXTRAORDINARY | that a man why bad insulted you by that letter of | the 26th should send a peremptory message to you to come ana see him? A. No, sir; 1 thought that the man that sent me sacu a letter would send me Ju: ich a Mersage. q You thougut you would leave your prayer Meeting and answer that message? A. | aeter- mined to leave my prayer meeting and rwhat he nad to say. Q The request was that you should go to Mr Moulton’s bouse # A. Yes, air. Q. Well, did you regard Mr, Moulton at that time a8 a friend of Mr. Tiiton? Yes, sit. Q Au intimate iriend? A. Yes, sir. Q. Weli, did you get somebody to attead the A. Yes, sir. Q. Avd you weot off at tue beck of the mau wor had insulted you on the 26ta to kaow what OF wanted? A, Tdid, sir. Q. Now, whut Was the manner of Mr. Moultos when he cawe there? A. Taat oi a gentieman. Q. Well, gentiemen can someumes be Was be excited? ai excitement. there apy internal excitement t A. He baa the manner of a Wao leit ue bad AN IMPORTANT ERRAND. Q. And how did he mantiess that? A, By bis tones, by his general manuer, Q. something a little peremptory in his tones A. Uh, bo; there was something ifat conveyed te me taat he felt it to be very important. Q Weil, did you regard it as provably impor. tan? A. [ couia tell better aiter I neard it; 8 thought it suM@cientiy important. Q. asked you What you regarded it belore? A, I thongh: it of sufficient importauce to go. Q. Weil, Was there anything in the manner of Mr. Moultou o@ that occasion which attracted var attention or excited your ovservation? A 8, fir Q. Well, what wasit? A. It was that he ha¢ b.ought me @ message in a very earnest Mauner Well, how did Uls earnestness Mauilest 1tsellt A. in bis tones and geveral demeanor. Qn e Was a geatieman. a DO! any exte Q. Well, wi Qw talk oud, cited * u they are uot gentiemen. Q. Oh yes they are. A, Thatis the exceptions part. Q. Let me read'to you. description givea of thts meetta; casion. “On Tuesday evening, See if you recognize the Bates another 00 cemuer 30, 1870 Mr. Morris—it suould be Friday, Mr. Fajlertoo—‘On Friday evening, t Seven o'clock, Francis D, Mouton called house, and, with intense earnestness, sald, Wish you to go With me to Mr, Tilton; I re- plied that I Coulda not taen, I Was just going to | about seven o'clock—— my prayer meeting; with most posit ner he said, ‘You must G5 someoudy take care of the meeting.’ Do you that was about tne way tne thing occur time? i418 tones anu emphasis w yours, sir; be did not say “You mast Q, Weil, is that a Gesoription ol tne occurrence that evening, without the empnasis? A. That i oue description of it, sir, Q. Giveu by whom’ A. I sappose it was gives by Henry Ward Beecher, Q. Was it correct? A, According to the Lesto my recollection then, & Why dido’s you say to Mr, Moulton, “I wis Cail to-morrow evening, or Some other day!” A Posstoiy that might nave been tne w course but i: Was not the coarse 1 ad; 1 can’ say Way, except it digu’toceur to me; I went int Mr. Moulton’s house Witt bim; Mr, Mowitun live four doots beiow St Ann's church, on Clunit street, if you are familiar With Brookiyn, Q Weil, lem not; bat law airaid 1 am going to becume so, A. | should ve very bappy to have you become more gu. Q Dien't Mr. Moulton, on bis way irom your bo Lo nia, say to Yuu in substance tha Mr. tik ton wanted to see you relerence to lis wile Eirzabetn—did be say io save “ie wh u see you im regard to domestic diiliculties /’ a, He did Det. You were then in entire ignorance of the om bof (hat Visit, $0 laf as anything alr, Moultot ry re you? A. So ti he suid uoytuing t me disciosing the Odject (bat Mr, Tilton had ive in proiwaud Lynoranes, wr, Fuilertou—Now, if Your Honor pisase before Igo to tue interview at the house | coink we hud bester take & litte i ear, | Tae Cuur' Aorenovie