The New York Herald Newspaper, December 26, 1874, Page 3

STANLEY IN APRICA ene All About Zanzibar, Once the Seat of the Slave Trade, Now a Centre for Progress. The Palace of Prince Bargh- ash-bin-Said. Commercial Advantages and American Util- ization, The Press Commissioner Received at Court. What the Prince Says of the Slave Trade, His Negotiations with Sir Bartle Frere and His Promises to the English. PEN AND INK SKETCH OF THE POTENTATE | ——— Christian Propagandism and Its | Resident Agencies. e A Stroll Throug thhe Streets and a Ride to the Blooming Garden, ZANZIBAR, East COAST OF AFRICA, Nov. 15, 1874. For the last four or five years the island and town called Zanzibar have been very prominent before the public. The rigorous measures pursued by the Britisn government for the suppression of The slave trade on this coast and the appeals of Livingstone tr behalf of the aboriginal African have made Zanzibar a well-known name. Pre- vious to this time it was comparatively un- known—as little known, {ndeed, as the polysylla- bic name by which it ts described in the Periplus of Arrian. The mention of Zangnebar, Zanji-bar— or, a8 it ts now called, Zanzibar—producea very little interest. Some few people there were who remembered there was such a Bame in very large characters on the map ol the worla, occupying a large strip on the east side of Africa, during their schoolboy days, but what that name indicated or comprehended very ‘ew knew or cared. They thought that it might be a very wild land, peopled with cannibals and snch like, no doubt; for lremember well, when I first returned trom Africa, agreat number of those kind who frequent clubs and big societies often asked me, “Where the deuce ts Zanzibar?” There were people, however, who prospered and grew rich on the ignorance of their white brothers who were so wolully deficient in elementary geographical knowledge. These were the staid old merchants of London, New York, Salem and Hamburg, who had agents living at Zanzibar, who unobtrusively collected precious cargoes of African productions and shipped them nome to their employers, who sold them again quietly and unobtrusively to manufacturers at enormous profits, Great sums of money were made tor Many, Many years by these old merchants, until the slave trade question began to he agitated and Livingstone’s fate to be a subject of inquiry. When a Committee of the House of Commons beld a protracted sitting. siiting every item of information relating to the island and its Prospects, its productions and commerce, &c., and the New YoRK HERALD despatched a special commisstoner in search of Livingstone, one result of whose mission was the publication of the pame of Zanzibar far and wide. Captain Burton has also written two large volumes, which bear the conspicuous name of “Zanzibar,” in large goid letters, on their backs; but very few of tnese volumes, | imagine, have found their way among the popular classes. [ mean to try in this letter to convey a description of the Island, its prince, and such subjects as have relation to them, as will suit any mind likely to take an interest im reading it. De Horsey's “African Pilot’? descrives Zanzibar as be- ing an islafd forty-six miles im length by eivhteen miles in width at its great. est breadth, though its average breadth 1s not more than from nine to twelve miles. The | “Alrican Pilot” and None’s “Epitome” place the island in south latitude 6 deg. 27 min. 42 sec., and in east longitude 39 deg. 32 min. 67 sec., but the combined navigating talent on board Her Bri- tannic Majesty’s surveying ship Nassau. locates Zanzibar in south latitude 6 deg. 9 min, 36 sec., and east longitude 29 deg. 14 min. 43 sec. Be- tween the isiaud and the mainland runs a channel from twenty to thirty miles tn width, well studaed with coral islands, sand bars, sand banks aim coral reefs. FIRST APPEARANCES. The first view the stranger obtains of Zanzibar sof low land covered with verdure. If he has Deen informed much concerning the fevers which trouble the white traveller in equatorial Africa, he 1s very likely to be impressed in his own mind that the low land is very suggestive of it, but a nearer view 1s more pleasing and serves to dispel much of the vague fear or uneasiness witn which he ap- proached the dreaded region of tll-health and sor- row. The wind is geutle and steady which flils $he veasel’a sails; the temperature of the air ts moderate, perhaps at 70 deg. or 75 deg. Fahren- Beit; the sky is of one cerulean tint, the sea 4s not troubled and scarcely rocks the ship, the shore is a mass of vivid green, the feathery fronds of palm trees, and the towering globes of foliage of the mangove relieve the monotony, | while the gleaming white houses of the rich Arabs Beighten the growing pleasure wit) the thought that the “lever may not ve so bad as people say itis.” Proceeding southward through the chan- fel that separates Zanzibar from the Continent, and hugging the shore o! the island, vou will many times be gratified by most pleasant tropical scenes, and by astrange iragrance which is borne from the leaf-clad isiand--a iragrance which may re- wind you of “Ceylon’s spicey isles.” With a good glass you will be able to make out first the cocos palm and the deep dark green glove of follage which the mango raises above when the tree is in its prime, the yracelul pombax, and the tall tamarind, while numbers of tall gigantic trees of some kind loom above masses of ambrageous shrnbdbery. Gjts of cultivated land, clusters of huts, solitary tembes, gardens and large, square, white houses, succeed each other quickly until your attention Is attracted by the sight of ship- ping in the distance, and, near-by, growing larger and larger every moment, the city of Zanzibar, the greatest commercial mart on tne east coast @f Alrica. Arrived in the harbor you will Gnd the ship anchors about 400 vards from the town, close to @ few more European ships, and perhapsa British man-ol-war or two, while a oumber of queer-looking vesseis, which you will style “na- tive,” lie huddled between your own vessel and | the shore. These native vessels are of various tonnage and size, from the unwieldy Arab trading dhow, with two masts leaning inelegantly and slovenly toward the bows, while the towering alter part reminds you of the pic: tures of ships in the Spanish Armada, to the lengthy, low and swift-looking mpete, which, when seen going before the wind, seems to be skimming the sea like a huge white seagull. Be- ond the native ficct of trading Muscat dhoWs, tiwa siavers, Pangaol Wood carners aid those vessels whicn carry passengers to the marniaad, the town of Zanzibar tisexy from the beach iu we neutly crescent form, Wiste aud giating, aud une symmetrical. The barrow, (Call, whitewashed buuse of the reigning Prince Bargiasn vin Said rises alinost in the centre of the rst line oo! buridings; close to it ‘on the right, as you stand looking at the town from shipboard, is the saluting battery, which bumbers some \iiriy guDs oF thereabouts; and right be- NEW YORK HERALD, SATURDAY, DECEMBER 26, 1874, hind fises.a mere shell of a dingy ola Portuguese jort, which might almost be knocked into pieces by afew rounds from Snider musxets. Close to the water battery is the German Consul’s house, @S beat as clean whitewasn can make building, and next to this house rises the double resicence and oMces ot Her Britannic M ty's Assistant Political Resiaent, surmounted the | Most ambitions o: Nagstails, Next comes an Eng- lish merchant's house, and ther the bulidings occu. | pied by Augustus Sparhawk, the agent of the great house uf John Bertram & Co., of Salem, Mass.; and between the English merchant's house apd the Hertram agency, in neighborly Reseus’ ig seen the snow white house of Mr, rederick M, Cheney, agent of Arnold. Hines & Co., 0: New York, whiie beyond ail, at the ex- treme right, on the extreme end of the crescent, on Shangani Point, towers in isolated vastness the Engiisn residency, which was formerly the house | of Bishop Tezer and his scanty Mock of youthiul | converts. If you start agaia irom that cen'ral and prominent point, the palace of His Highness, and intend to take @ searching view of the sallent objects of ovservation aloug the sea front o! the town, you wili Observe that to tne left of ; the water battery are @ number of sneas roofed | with palm fronds. and that in tront of these is about the only thing resembilnog a wharf visible along the beach, This you will be told is the Zan- zivar Custom House. There may be @ native | dhow discharging her cargo, and lines of burly | Strong laborers come ana go, go and come, con- tinually, vearing to the Custom House balea, packages, ivory, tusks and what not, and return- ing lor tresh burdens; while, on the wharf, tur- baned Arabs and long-shirted hait-castes either superintend the werk or from idle curtosity stand by to look on, THE PALACE OF THE PRINCE OF BARGHASH. Moving the eye leftward of the Custom House to @ building of noble dimensions you will see that | mixture Of richness of woodwork and unkempt | siovenliness and general untidiness or semi-decay | which attracts (he traveller in almost all large | Turkish and Arab houses, whether tn Turkey, in | | Egypt or Arabia. This ia the new palace of Prince Barghash. The dark open lattice wo brown veranda, with its interiaced bars of wood. in- the vest work of an Arab artisan—strike one a3 pecullarly adapted giowing climate like tots of Zanzi We the eye surmounts this woodwork | find itselr shocked at observing ; finished roof and the seams of light which | fall through ite and the dingy whitewash and | the semi-ruinous state of the upper part of the | structure, A little left of this stand two palatial | buildings which for size dwarieven the British residency. One is the house of Nassur bin said, the Prime Minister of His Highness; the other 1s inhabited by the Sultan's harem, Beyond these large buildings are not many. ‘he compact line | Of solid buildings becomes broken by unsightly sheds with thatched roofs. This is the Melinde uarter, a place devoted to the sale of fish, fruit, c., to Which Dew European arrivals are banished to seek residences among the few stone houses to be found there. MALAGASH INLET. Beyond Melinde is the snallow Malagash inlet, the | Cause—I may say the matn cause, perhaps the only cause—of the unnealthiness of the town of Zanzi- bar; ana beyond the Malagash inlet extends the country, like a rich, prolific garden, teeming with tropicai plants and trees, sloping gently upward | as iar as the purpiing ridges of Evaysu. THE LANDING. Such is Zauzivar and its suburbs to the new arrival, as he attempts to note down his observa- tions from shipboard. Descending the side ladder he 18 rowed ashore, and if he has a letter of intro- duction 13 welcomed by some “‘noole specimen of @ British merchant,” or an American merchant of thirty-five or jorty years’ standing, or a British oficial, or by one of those indescribables who has jound his way into Zanzibar, and who patiently bides for the good time that is reported and believed to be coming; for I find that Zanzle bar, instead of attracting the real merchant, has, since my last visit, but changed its European inatiles. When I was here beiore I meta tiving specimen of the happy aod sangaine Micawber class. He is gone, but another fills his piace. One can scarcely dare say anything good of Zanzibar or of any other place without attracting the wrong class of persons; and as I am on this topic Imay as weil specily what class of persons can be Genedcen, Pecuniarily by immigration to Zan- zibar. COMMERCIAL OPENINGS. " To an enterprising man of capital Zanzibar and the entire sea line of the Sultan’s dominions ofter special advantages. A man with & Capital of £5,000 might soon make his £20,000 out ol it; but Not by bringing bis capital and his time and health to compete with great, tich mercantile houses of many years’ standing and experience, and, set- Uling at Zanzibar, vainly attempting to obtain the custom ot the natives, who are perfectly content with their time-honored white iriends, when the entire coast line oj the mainiand invites his at- tention. bis capital, bis shrewdness and industry. The new arrival must do precisely whut the old merchants did when they com- menced business. He must where there is no rivalry, no competition, ii ne his river returns for his money, He must ony a ie interior steamer of light draught and penetrate | by the Rufgi, the Pangani, tue Mtwana, or the Jub, and purchase the native product at frst cost and resell (o the large mercantile houses of Zan- zibar or ship home. ‘he copal of the Rufigi plain, accessible, a3 1 know by experience, to a light draught steam-r, is now carried om the snoulders of natives to Dar, Saiaam and Mbuamajil, to be solu to the Bantans, who reship tt to Zanzibar und toere resell to the suropean merchant. The ivory of Unyamwesi is brought down close to Mbumi Usagara, whica is accessible by a hight draught steamer by the Wami. The ivory trade of Masai and the regions north is carried down through @ portion vf the Pangani Valley, and the Pangani for a shorv distance 1s also navigable and furnishes @ means o/ eabling the white merchant to overreach bis more settled white brothers at Zanzibar. The Jub River, next to the Zambezi, is the largest river on the east coast of Airica, wile it is comparatively unknown, Arab caravans Pevetrate the regioas south o! it and obtain large | quantities of ivory and hides, Why should not the white merchant attempt to open legitimate trade in the same articles by means of the | river? When Jonn Bertram, of Salem, Mass., came to Zanzibar, some forty years ago, there was not a singie Eurvpean house here, He was an town, with its splendid opportunities jor coim- mencing @ mercantile -business, On arriving home he invested the results of his venture in chartering @ small vessel with goods such as would meet a ready sale in Zanzibar. The specu- lation turned out to be a gocd one; he repeated it, and then established an agency at Zanzibar, while he himself resided at Salem to conduct the business at home, to receive the cargoes (rom Zan- zibar and ship cloth aud other goods to his agency out bere. The business which the young whaler started continued to thrive. Agent succeeded stay in nzibar, to enjoy the iruit of his labors, Buys sent out to Zanzibar to learn the basiness became responsible clerks, then hesd agents and subsequently opulent merchants, and so on from year to year, until Johu Bertram can joint with novie pride to his own millions and the jong list of noble men whom he taught, encour- aged, sustained by his advice and enriched. ‘rhe moral of all thie 18, that what John Bertram, of | Salem, did at Zanzivar, can be done by any large minded, enterprising Engilsaman or American on | the matuland of Airica, ay, as there is a larger | flelaon the matniand and as he can profit by tne example of Beriram he can do more. HOW THEY LIVE. Men experienced in the ways of O.iental life need not be told in detatl how people live in Zan- zibar, nor Low the town appears within, nor what the Arabs and hajf-castes and Wangwana know | of sanitary laws. Zanzibar is not the best, the j cleanest nor the prettiest town I have ever seen; hor, on the other hand, is it the worst, the fithiest nor the ugliest town. While there 1s but little to praise or gratify in it, there is @ good | deal to condemn, and, while you condema it. you are very likely to feel that the cause for condemnation ts irremedtable and hopeless, But the European merchants find much that | endurabie ut not nearty the in- | tolerabie place that the smelted rocks of Aden have made Steamer Puint, nor has tt the parooil- ing atmosphete of Bushire or Busrah, nor is it cursed by tue merciless heat of [amailia or Port Said. [! you expose yourself to the direct rays | of the sun of Zanzibar ior a considerabie time tt would be as iatal ior you as thouga you did j Such un unwise thing on the Aaen Ischidus. Within doors, however, life is tolerable—nay, it is luxuriously comfortable. We—I me: Ea- ropeans—have numbers of servants to it on us, to do our smallest biading. [fi we need a light for our cigars, or Our Walking cane, or our hats when We go oul, We never think o getting things for ourseives ur of doing anything of which another could relieve us of the necessity of doing. We wave only the trouble of teiling our servants what to do, and even of this troubie we would gladly be relieved. One great com.ort to us «out here is that there ts no society to compel as to ; imprison our necks Witain linen collars, or half strangle ourselves with a silken tle, or to be anx- tous about any part of our dress. The most tn- Goient ol us never think of shilting our night Pyjamas notil nearly midday. LInodeed, we could ud it in our hearis to live mm them altogether, except that we feara litte chad from our neigh- bors. Another luxury, which we enjoy out here, which may not be enjoyed in Europe. What think you Of @galt water bath morniag, noon and evening Just belore dinner? Our servants ll our tubs ior us, for our residences stand close to the sea, and it is neither trouble nor expense, if we care at all jor the tuxury, to undress tu the cool room and take a lew miinures’ sicep in the tus. Though we are but a smali colony of whites, we resemble, microscopically, society at home. We have our good wen and true and sociadie men; we have our pig-giviny ows = «well met, an perampulating <r Uur liquors and wines and cigars are good, Ifthey are uot the vest. in the world, Some of us of course are better connuisseurs in such things tian others, and have accordingly coutrived to secure the | most superior brands. Our houses are large, roomy and cool; we have plenty of servants; we have good (ruit on the twlund; we enjoy health while We Nave it, und With our tastes, education aud pavional love of refinement, we bave con- trived to suiroumd ourselves with such luxuries as serve to prolong good health, peace of miod aud lie, and, Inshaliad! shall continue to do so while We Stay tu Zanzibar, ‘the avove 18 but the f auk, Outspoken description of himeell, as might be given by a dignified and Worthy Zanzibar mer- chant ol long standing of European extraction. And your Commissioner will declaro that tt ts as (| hear truth a3 though the Zanzivar merchant of intends, the half. | expects to have a large business and quick | officer of a whaling vessel when he saw this large | agent as each man went home, aiter a !ew years’ | | | | | jong standing and experience had written it nim- self. THE POPULATION. Now we have had the Europeans of Zanzibar, their houses and mode and law of life describe: Jet us get into the streets and endeavor to se for ourseives the nature of the native and the Semitic resident, anu ascertain how far they difer irom me Anglo-Saxon and Anglo-American suv- imittes, y toward the Seyid’s pain we gradually become conscious that we have le’ the muddy streets with smali, narrow gutters, aud which re-echoed our lvotsteps so , J. Dois| The tall houses where the Europeans eereene by but a narrow street, ten feet wide, shut out the heat and dazziing glare whica otnerwise the clean whitewashed walls would have reflected, come across the hatetu! garing suntignt, and our nostrils become irritated by an amver-colored Gust, from the “garbling’’ of copal and orchilia nd weare sensible o| two sevarate sme! which adect the senses. One is the sweet tr Brance of cloves, the other is the odor which a crowd of ves bearing clove bags exhaie trom their perspiring bodies. Shortiy We come across an irregular square biank in e buildings which had hemmed us 1p tron t heap, leavings, of orange which, are unsightly houses, and banana festering sugar-cane peelings, make piles rotting in the sun, to the eye abd offensive to the nostrils. And just by Nere we see the semi-ruinous Portuguese tort, & most beggarly and dilapidated structure. Several rusty and antique Canoon lie strewn along the base ofthe front wall, and a dozen or soo! rusty and beggarly-looking half-castes, armed with long, straivht sword» and antique Muscat matchiock: affect to be soldiers and guardians of the gate. Fortunately, however, tor the peace of the town and the reigning Prince, the prisoners whom the soldiers guard are mild-manuered and gentle enough, lew of them haviag committed a worse crime than participating in a bloodless strect brawl or being found intoxicated in the street. RECEIVED AT COURT, Passing the noisy and dusty Custom House, with its hives of singing ;orters ‘at work, and herds of jJabbering busybodies, nobodies and somebodies, | We shortly arrive at the palace, where we might as weil eater, and see howe it fares with His High. ness Barghash bin Suid, the Prince of Zanzioar and Pemoa. As we may bave merely made au ap- pointment with him as private citizens ui a free and independent Joreign country, and are eacorted only by a brother citizen of the same rank, etiquette foroids that the Seyvid shouid descend inty the street toreceive his visitor, Were we Her Britannic Majesty’s Consul or Political Resident His High- ners would deem it but due to our official rank to descend into the street and meet us exactly twenty-four steps from the palace door. an Envoy Extraordinary the Prince would meet Us some flity or seventy-fve paces {rom nis gate. We are but private citizens, however, and the only honor we get 1s an exhibition of the guards— Beiooches, Persians and half-castes—drawn up on each side of the door, their uniforms consistiag of | lengtny butternut-colored dishdashehs, or shirts, which reach Irom the nape of the neck to the @ucies 0: each, Alter we have ascended a flight of steps we ais- cover tue Prince, ready to receive us, with os usual cordial aud frank smile and good natured greeting, and, during a shower of good natured Soering Tespecting our health, we are escorted to é other end of the barely turuished room, where | We are Invited to be seated, WHAT THE PRINCE SAID OF THE SLAVE TRADE. I have had (adopting the first person sinaular long conversation with the Prince of Zanzibar; but, omitting all extraneous matter, I shall only touch upon such portion of our conver. sation as relates to a subject im Which we are all interested, viz. :—the slave trade and to the diplo- matic mission of Sir Bartle Frere, We have all read the despatches of Sir Bartle, relating his intercourse officially with the Sultan of Zanzibar; we have also beard trom his own lips his views upon East Airican slavery. But none of your readers have heard the storv of the Sultan himself, with his views of slavery and of the mis- sion of sir Bartie Frere. Without pretence of literal and exact record of what the Sultan said, 1 yet dec:are that the spirit of what he said will be Jound embodied in the foliowing:. « “During Majid, my brother's time, Speke came here and travelled into Airica, and what he said a@buut us Arabs caused us a little trouble. Toe consuls, too, have given us great trouble. have written home much that is not quite true; but some time ago my brother Majid dled, an by the grace of God I succeeded bim. The trouble which my orother Majid endured was as nothing compared to that which bas been the result of that man, Dr. Livingstone’s, letters. 1 maintain that those letters you brought trom him and curried to England were tne cause of all this great trouble. Indeed, I have nad a troublous time of it ever since I came to tne throne, First, there came the hurricane of two p pore ago (April, 1872), Wuich destroyed my entire feet and all the ships of my spoonle, and devastated the tsland and the coast, We were well off beiore that time, we became suddenly poor. I had seven shi steamers 0! war lost, and my people lost 200 ships, and if you doubts my word respecting the devastation on the land take one of my norses and ride out into the country that you may see for yourself. 1n the midst of the desolation and ruin which had overtaken us we heard that the former Governor of Bombay, Sir Bartle Frer coming out to us to talk to us about the siave trade. Now, you white peopie must un- derstand that all Arabs trade in slaves, that they have done so trom the beginning. Our Koran does not their tootsteps and did likewise. Said Satd, and my brothers, Thouweynee, Majid, and Toorkee, were iriends with the Engush and the English gave them advice and got them to sign treaties not to trade in slaves aby more. To the treaty that my brothers signed I gave my cou- sent freely when 1 came to the throne, for I have always been a friend to the English and to Eng- lushmen. “When sir Bartle Frere came nere we were in sore distress, and very poor, He asked me to sign a treaty that no siave trade should be per- mitted in my country. When | consulted my chiels they held their hauds out to me and sald, ‘We have nothing, we are poor, but if the Enghsh will give us time—say a year or so—we are quite will- Ing to sign that whicn they ask us.’ I repeated to Sir Bartle what my clieis were willing to do, and I asked him to give us time such as they gave the Portuguese ; bat Sir Bartie, in his hurry toget Us to sign tue treaty, overiooked the distress we were in from tne hurricane. Time and time again l asked that he would give us but a few montus to consider and prepare for tbis final stroke of mistortune, but he would not listen, he was deaf to me. Conttoually he said , ‘Sign this treaty.’ I was quite wiil- iz to sign tt, though by signing it 1 was losing about $20,000 a year reveuue; but my peo- le cuuld nut understand this naste of Sir Bartle Frere to get the treaty signed without giving us time to think o1 it. We all knew that the Engiish could do what they wanted to do in Zanztvar; if they took the island we were too poor and weak to resist; if they destroyed us all woe could not helpit. Ail we could have done would have veen to consign our cause to God, and submit. Sir Bartle Frere went away angry. I cannot help it, When We leave these behing we | A fetid | Were we | Some | but I grieve that he should be angry with we lor. what { could not help. One of the things he asked me to give my consent to was that! snould assist the English in putting down the slave trade. Huw can [ assist the English? 1 have no ships as1 nad Jormerly, or I would willingly do so. “soon after Sir Bartie Frere went away an Eng- lish fleet came to our harbor. The English Admi- ral (Rear Admiral Arthur Cumming) and Dr. Kirk came to see me avout the orders they had received from the Foreign OMce to stop the siave trade. They botn advisea me as (riends to sign the treaty. 1 got my people's consent to do so, and | signe@it, not because { was airaid ol tne English ships, tor, Uf the English came to Zanzibar and sald, ‘We want this isiand,’ [ would not resist them, for 1 Know that they are strong and | am weak—but because the English Admiral and Dr. Kirk ad- vised me as friends, ior they knew my poverty and understood my cuse better than Icould have toid them.” WILL HE BE REIMBURSED? Such ts the story of the Sultan, without embel- lishment, and I dare say that Sir Bartle Frere will indorse must of lt, if not all. It w: su ‘e's many admirers that tic talents had tased to secure the Sul- ignature tu the treaty for the suppression oO! the slave trade, but with my knowleuge of the method which Sir Bartie adopted to secure tne Suitan’s signature | may say now that | no longer wonder at iis failure, Small and insignificant as Prince Barghash may be in power aud influence he is yet au independent chief of an independent State, to whem are due all the little courtesies Woich skilful diplomats are in the habit of using to persons recognized as rulers, consequently the stern, relentless cvercion whicn Sir Battic’s word: any other way by a m: conscious of his dignity sovereign prince than by @ rejusal to sign the treaty. The mild manners and suavity of Admiral Cumming, together with the tact and iriendiy entreaties of Dr. Kirk, uowever, produced the de- sired result, leaving us uothing to regret save the failure ot Dir Bartle to succeed Where he ought to Dave succeeded. and where he might bave suc- ceeded tau he possessed wis soul with patience. Now, nowever, that the treaty has veen signed 4 England’s ‘indignation at the Seyyid’s first rusal Co concede to her demands been appeased, Fict justice requires that the Prince shail tn some measure be requited jor the concession he mado. ‘This 1s not merely my opinion, Hor is it merely my definition of what justice demands in this case; bat It ts the outspoken and Irank decia- ration oj several eminent Laglsn gentlemen with hom | have conversed. ‘Taey say that the Prince should be indemnified, for this concession on lis part, With som grant of money or ald, in some form or anot tor sacrificing to England's views of what 18 right and wrong an eighth portion of his revenue; that the Ppiea that England may _ use, at she guaranteed Prince Barghash rele! from the annual supsiay of 40,000 crowns to his brother at Muscat, cannot be employed at all, Englund nd Manners embodied could not be met in | herseit Had imposed tuis sum on the Zanzibar | Sultan in order that her commerce might not be endangered in the fratricidal war which might | ensue on Prince Barghasi’s rejueal to pay tis heavy Subsidy; and thac tt 18 duubulul whet Prince ‘Toorkeé could ever summon suiicieut iore lo compel Paice Barghasn tu pay him a single col. ith whch views just men will Dot tail wo agree. Toe beggariy presents which Sic Bartie Frere and fis suite brought to Zanzibar Tor presentation to the Sultan were unworthy of the nation, which Do doubt intended to act Pnerously, Of the representative o: Her Britannic jajesty Woich conveyed them, and of the prince | Alrica, for whom they were purchased, Weill enough, no | doubt, tor the petty poteutate of Jobama, who ul- timutely receivea them, but not for the sovereign | of Zanzibar ana Pemba, and a thousand miles of ; coast. With whom a British envoy was charged to negotiate. It 1s not common sense to suppose that any private citizen would look induigently upon | any proposition which required of him to sacrifice £4,000 @ year of his income in consideration of a lew paltry presents which dia not exceed , over @& Jew hundred pounds in vaiue at the most, any more than that Prince Barg- hash should, Yet this ts precisely what sir Barwle Frere § charged to do by the Foreigu Office in his .ate mission to Zanzibar. Owing sto the losses incuryed by him and his people during the hurr.cabe of 1872, ana tne sacrifice of a large portion of lis revenue by the demands of Eng- o! income and ready money. He has leased the customs to Jewram Sujee, @ Banian, for a term of years, ‘or a very insufficient sum. He is sore.y troubied with the native war tn Unyam- | wedi, Which prevents the ivury trom arriving at | the sea. H:s private estates are mere wrecks of What they once were, and the reai pecuniary con- dition of Prince Barghaso may jummed up as truiy depioravie. Now a present of demned gunvoats or any two vessels of war, such as the A miralty has almost aiways op hand for sale cneap for cash, would be a goasend to the Suitau Of Zanzivar, and @ round sum of a few frienasalp ana good will, might obviate in some England incurs annually im her ors to Suppress the siave trade, There are severa: ways of regarding euch a Proposition, but it will not appear surprising to he candid reader if he reads tue‘above facta ais- passiovately and without prejudice, It ts a good adage that which advises that we should choose the least evil of two, and everybody will adnut tiat if England could purchase the nearty co-op- eration Of the Zanzibar Sultan witha timely aud needful present, in the philanthropic scoeme which Engiand has solung attempted to epiorce on the East Alrican Coast, it would ve less ex- pensive than supporting a large squadron at au expense Of several thousands of pounds per au- nun. And now that the slave trade 13 carried on inland 1 is more Decexsary than ever that Seyyid Barghash’s good will shoul. be secured. Without the aid that England could give the Prince 1 doubt much that however iriendly disposed he may be, he can do anything to assist im suppressing the trade, for the reasons already given, A PEN AND INK SKETCH OF HIS HIGHNESS, Turning again to other topics, ! may as well sketch the Prince vejore bowing uim my adieu. He 1s now in the prime of ile, probably about jorty-two years oid, of vigorous and manly frame, and about five feet nine inches in height, He isa frank, cordial and good natured gentleman, with @ iniendly brusqueness in his manner to ail wuom he bas uo reason to regard with suspicion. He has up Open, generous and a very unaiplomauc tuce, slightly touched here and tiere with traces of the smullpox. He dresses plainly and 1s not given to ostentation m apy way. the usual linen dress of the Arabs, w: nis waist cinctured by a rich belt of plaited gold, which supports the generally oorne by au Agab gentieman. mis linen dress be wears @ jong biack cloth coat, the edges of which are covered with a nar- row gold braid. His headdress is the usual ample laudable endeav- completing in bis person @ somewhat picturesque costume. It would be difficult to choose a prince with whom diplomatic relations couid be carried on 80 easily, provided always that the diplomat re- membered that the Priace was an Araband @ Nos- lem gentleman. Politeness will eect more than rudeness, always with Arabian gentlemen. Admiral Cumming, I feel sure, with hia gentle, dispassionate bearing, could effect as much with Seyvid Bargnash as Admiral Yelverton’s courteous aud calm bear ing effected with the menacing ruttians of Carta gena. In whatever school of deportment these old british admirals, who, over # steely firmness, wear such courtesy, are brought np, tt might be recommended that diplomats charged witn del. cate negotiations might be sent to learn lessons of true politeness. There 1s, however, one phase in Prince Barghast’s character which presents a ditticulty im dealing with him, and that is bis lan. aticiam. Ever since he undertook the journey to Mecca he has shown himseli an extremely tervid ; Mosiem, indisposed to do anything or attempt } anything nut recommended in the Koran, A prince of more iberal religious views might have had an opportunity as tne late diplomatic ne> gotiations of permavently bettering himseli and people; but Barghash was restrained py his ex- treme religious scruples irum asking any aid of Eogland. THE MART FOR TRADE, Continuing our journey through the town of Zanzibar, beyond the Sultan’s palace, we come to the business quarter of the natives. The spicy smells, intermixed witn those of fruit, printed cloth, ous, ghee, peppers, &c., grow stronger us We advance, added to which is the very infragrant odor which is exhaled trom the bodies of the naked and unwashed muititude. Flies bere con- gtegate in swarms, and setile where they enjoy plentiiul repasts. Down into the narrow and crowded alley, fanked by the low palm-rooied sheds where the humble, free and s)ave populace are engaged in their noisy barter, pours the Merciless sunlight, drawing stifling vapors from the filthy and undraiped street. Not caring to take more than a hasty gisnce at anything under such circumstances, we hasten dn through the most wretched alleys and streets, by halt ruinous houses which only require to be re- Paired to be made presentable, and only require the superintendence of sanitary police to make mosque: id erdnen ihe burzenis, where squat dusky men and yellow fnen, kinky and atraigat- haired men, Arabs and Banians, Hindis and nall- castes, eacn of whom we detect by either his garb or his appearance. And so we proceed by ruins and buts and dunghids and garbage heaps and square, dingy white buildings, until we come to the Malagasn Iolet, over waich a bridge leads to a populous suburb and the evergreen country. It we cross the bridge and skirt the opposite bank by a broad well-trodden path, we will be travelling along the base of a triangle, of which Shangani Point und the British Political Residency may orm the apex. A bali bour’s walk along this path leads us through tii-kept gardens, where mandioca or manioc (the cassava), Indian corn, and holcus, sesame and millet grow half shaded by orange and lime, pomegranate and mangopalm, and jack trees, untli we galt before tne white and clean buildings of the snglian Church mission. We have noted in our short walk that agricultural skill and industry is ata very tow ebv, barely fit tobe termed by such names, rather a wretched, bur- rowing and shiftiess, slovenly planting: but taé geniul soil covers a muititude of detects, sins of indoleace and untnriftinegs. THE CHRISTIAN DISPENSATION. AS we have arrived at the Engiish Church Mis- sion Bulidings, what shali I say avout the mission except the honest, truthiul facts? The Right Rev. Bishop Tozer, *‘Bish«p of Central Africa,” in priestly purple and fine itmen, is no more to be seen here, and it really appears as if the mission hac began new life, and had begun to lit its head among the useful societies 0} the world. As yet | have seea no great increase of converts, but lair promise of future usetuiness is Vistble every- where, As a iriend to the Church which has sent this mission out, { was tormerly restrained ‘rom saying much about it, because knew very little good of it; and had | not scen the erudite but undiguified prelate extuniting himself in such unysual garb to the gaze of the low rabuie | of Zanzibar I would certainly have passed the Church mission and its pitiful ways of converting the neaihen in silence, Now, however, | may speak with candor. The great building now known as the Britis Residency was, in 1371 aud 1872, the episcopal palace and mission how Alter its sale to the English government the mis- sioDaries removed tueir school to tueir country house, a hall mile or so beyond the extremity of Malugaso Iniet, With the pioney ovtained by the sae of the mission house the Superintendent purchased the oid slave market—a vacant area surrounded by mud huts, close to the cattle yards oi the Banians and the ooze and stagnant pools of the Malagash. On the site of so much sionaries have commenced to erect structures waien, when completed, may well be styled super ‘nese buildings consist of a fine residence, @ school and a church, Which, with another building, Just begun oy Lacknindoss, the Banian, will sur- round an irregular square, in which paims and flowers and Iruit trees will be planted, A view from one of the windows of the unfinished rest- dence gives us @ cl ¥ idea of the locality the Missionaries Dave selected, and suggests grave goubts of the wisdom o! tts selec- tion. TS at it trom @ sentimental point of view, the locality 1s, no doubt, very appto- priate, and 8 certain dtness is also seen in it. rhe British government denounced the slave trade, and mude a grand effort to crash it; and the market lor the sale of slaves in old times Was purchased by the mission, on which the mis- sionaries erect a church wherein peace and goud will aud brotherly love will be preached aud taught. The neighborhood, also, ts one of tne most miserable quarters of Zanzibar; but the Missiouaries convey with them the power to im- prove, refine aod ¢levate, vespive its extreme poverty and misery. itis all very well, we think; | but U We look Irom the windows and examiue the character of the ground into whict the wails of the Ouilding have been sunk, we will see (hat it 18 a quagmire, With putrid heaps of cow dung and circular littie pools of sink water, which permeate through the corrapting il, aod heave up again tp globules and bubbies, exhaling tue Vilest udor tuat ever irritated the civilized European's nose. And if what we have seen below is not enough to conjure up in the mind @ dismal pros- pect Of sickness and pain and sorrow for tue un- Happy Missionaries Who may Le appointed to lve here, the,view ut the long and broad stretcn of biack mud, which the shallow waters of the Mala- gash leave behind them ior hours night and day, Will certainly do it. it would require the treasury of @governinent to redeem the ground from its present uninhabitable state, All | can say, how. ever, ig that | can only bupe that the dismal future Suggested by the scenes hear the mission build. "ings may never be resized, and that the worthy missionaries nay be prosperoas in the new field belore them, Dr. Steere, lately consecrated Bishop of Central is avout to arrive here, as saccessor of isisnop VYoze:. If report speaks correctly he 19 abvontto establish wission buidiogs ovat Lake Nyassa, tn whieh cuse he Will bave Che hearty sympathy xud apport of every good Iman; aud, did Livingstone live, Bishop Steere would depart With Ws biessings and best wishes jor success, ‘The tery name o1 Bishop Steere suggests success, He 18 @ practical and an indevatigaviy industrious man. he is devoid of bigotry, but while devoted to nis Church he does not neglect the great fact jand, the Prince of Zanzibar suffers trom straitness | two cou- | thousands of pounds given to him as a sign of | mensure Lhe necessity of the large expense whicn | He wears | ih | crooked Sager | ver turban of the Arab, wound gbout bis head, and | them habitable; by low-roofed ana square-piilered | » | pertence from the time the soldiers came to tne extreine Wretcbedness and crime the Church mils- | that conversion of the heathen meane more | than the mere teaching of the formula of j the Church o; fmgiand. In sbort, he is @ ft leader, because of hia ain, practical good sense, bis tnoustry, his intellectual acquire- ments and religion tor the new Christian mission, anc | heartily congratuiate the Board of the Church Mission for their selection and choice of such @ man. While we are almost certain that Bishop Steere will be able to snow resuits worthy of him, it 18 absoiutely uecessary for the cause of reiigion throughout Africa that he shou d be prop- erly supported by iis friends at home. Toere must be uo niggard supp.ies sent to him, for the establishment of such & mission as wiil insure ccess requires considerabie resources, and the Church Mission should this time make a supreme edort worthy of their great Churcn. & RIDE TO ELaYsU—TH® BLOOMING GARDEN oF THE LAND. From the English Mission to the country is but a step. and before closing this letter we snould ike to ask the reader to accomipany us as tar as the ridges of Elaysu. The path which we choose | les through cuitivated tracts and groves Of fruit trees Which Stretch on either side of it, thicken- | ing as they recede, and growing tntensely deep and umbrageous, even to the depth and intensity ofa forest, We note the effects of the hurzi- | cane in the prostrate and inst rotting trunks of the cocoanct palm, and Vast pumber of paims which lean trom the perpendicular, and threaten Delore long to also tal, We note th ri ti & good deal of for the couptr, the poor, unfo what a veautiiu: and happy isle bhi ° var might be made undera wise and cultivated ruler. If such & change as is now visidie in Mau- Titius, With all its, Ks apd mouateins and miles of rugged ground, can be made, what might not mate of Zanzibar, where there are no moun- tains nor peaks por rugged ground, but gent) undulations and iow ridges eternally clothed 1 green verdure. At every pozut at every «spot you _— see improvabie, something that might ve made very much better than it now is. And so we | rtde on with such reflections, which reflections are eomewha: assisted, no doubt, by the ever-crooked bath which darts toward ail points of the compass 1a sudden and abrupt crookedness. But the land and the trees are always beautuul and always tropical. Palms and orange trees are everywhere, with a large number of plain 8, Mangoes and pos fruit trees; the sugar cane neighbor, the indian corn, the cassava, 1s side by side with the hoicus sorghum, and there is 4 profusion o1 ver- dure and fruit and grain wherever we turo our e something PESESREEE Eres & i yes. And shortly we arrive at the most picturesque spot on the island of Zanzibar—: u, a$ some Cail it—every inch of whica, | Were in the possession of the white man, would | be worth o hundred times more than it is now, irom its commanding ele jon, from the charm- ing views o} sea and land and town ts summit presents, for its bealthin its netgnborhood to town, for it is but dve or ites off. What cosy, | lovable, pretty cottages might be built om the ridge of Elaysu, amid palms and never-sere fohage, amid flowers and carol of birds, amid shades Oo! orange abd mango trees! How white men and white women would love to dream on verandas, with open eves, of their far away homes, made far pleasanter by distance and mem- | ory, while palms waved ana rustied to gentle even- iug breezes. and the sun descended to the west amid clouds of allcolors. Yes, Elaysu is beautiful and the receding ridges, with their precipitous ravines, fringed with trees and vegetation, are extremely picturesque, and some short bits of scenery which we view across the white glaring bars of sunlight ure heriectiy {dye in their modest beauty. But much xs i would be pleasea to dilate on this and that view to you, wita all the varying tints and shadows, gleaming brigntness, and soit twilight, of unsurpassed tropical scenes and continuous groves of trees, [am constrained jor want of space to retuse. As we turn our horses’ heads around to retura, we view the town aad harbor ot Zanzibar charmingly somnolent in | the pale gray haze through waich they are seen, Tepresenting but too fitiy, in that dreamy state in which we imagine them, the lassitude and indil- Jerence of the people of Zanzibar. HENRY M, STANLEY. THE INDIANS. INTERVIEW WITH BIG REP FOOD, THE FAMOUS CHIEF OF THE COMANCHES--ONE WHO NEVER ASEED A FAVOR OF THE WHITE MAN. MILITARY GUARD Hovss, Fort S1.t, I. bo i g Dec. 14, 1874. "§ A sprucely garbed sentinel, with polished brasses and shining rifle, waiking his beatin the evening’ a large, square stone prison building with forbidden bars, a group of savage Indian chiefs in riveted irons, with @ white desperado and a half Indian half negro “what is it”? named Dick, among them, makes up the scene as your corre- spondent arrives nere to interview the brave, fierce and moody Comanche chiel, Pia-rech-kup, or Big Red Food, or Big Buffaio Bull, or meat, as he ts com- monly known, baving led the Noconee tribe, it | will be rememberea, at the battle uf the Washita Agency in August last, wnen General Davidson went there to bring the insudordinate Indians to terms. His wonderfal escape, when ranging tne gauntlet through a company of soldiers, by whom be was surrounded and fired upon, and his subse- quent fight to the Plains, are the main events which have of late rendered him famous. Prior to this he was known as one of the most darinz, desperate and remorseless warriors when im the field, and a man who, irom his very flerceness of courage, guided by an iron nerve, has been held up among the Indiana, and, indeed, regarded by the white man as ONE WHO ASKED NO FAVORS, except such ‘‘as bis rignt arm and his steed could win.” As @ companion picture to the interview had with Kicking Bird, I thought perhaps the views of Big Red Food, or Pia-rech-kup, might be interesting to your readers. Mr. Frank, the official interpreter at the agency, accompanied me. At | first Big Ked Food seemed unapproacnable and | wrapped in his rigid, sullen and awe-inspiring reserve, but upon being informed that I came to see him as your correspondent ke immediately relaxed his tactturn manner and said, “I am glad the great chief paper, the HERALD, takes an inter- | est in the Indian,’ wnen the following colloquy took place:— A TALKEE WITH BIG RED FOOD. CORRESPONPEXT—Do you remember me as being present at the Washita Agency on the day you had the pow-wow with Geueral Davidson, when the fight with your tribe and the Kiowas occurred ? Bia Rep Foop—No ! (scanning me closely with his piercing, tiger, bloodshot eyes) there were so many white men present and there was such a | great excitement | don’t remember you. CORRESPONDENT—You are spoken of as avery brave chief, and I think you will tell the truth. Would you like to give me an account of your ex- Washita Agency, and say how this war looks to yout Bia Rep Foop—It has never been my custom to | make much of a talk with @ chief in council, but I | have often spoken with the agent when among my people. inmever spoke to a newspaper chiel; it is business 1 have not been used to, I went in and camped on the Washita, near the agency, and had not gone to see the agent as yet after J ad started | from the west jrom Pecan ureek. 1 was only com- ing in with my people, and having heard that there were a great many Mexicans near the post, at Fort Sill, | was afraid of losing my stock if I came in here, and moved over 10 tne Indian agency at Washbita. I would like to state why I was out at PecanCreek. When the medicine man came from the Quahadas—I mean him who haa been 4 OUT ON THE PLAINS, Idon’t know where he is now—we went out there to see him, and then, with the Cheyennes and the Quahadas, a military organization was formed, and they proposed to take charge of my young men. I got them together and asked by what authority this was done. We resolved to leave them there and then. We did not skolx | away, but left openly. They wanted the whole together to join and go out on the Plains, 1 ob- Jected., They wanted to compel us to go of, though they did not say where toey wanted us to go, and wanted to compel the friendly Indians who had stayed Near the agency to go with them tothe Piains, They aid not say for what. When 1 had returned to the Washita Agency, while I was there the soldiers came to my camp, and tne soldier chief (General J. W. Davidson) asked me to give op my gun and aiterward my bows and arrows. | bad a gun, and had no bows and arrows. Thad already GIVEN UP MY GUN. The taik there! did not understand very well. J did pot understand Jones. Ido not think be 1s a good Comanche talk. Tnen they wanted me to come right over to Fort Sill Agenc; My young men had gone to kill bees and | coald not get them | altogether immediately tu start. of nad apvut | forty young men; ! can’t tell exactly. 1 was irighteped. Yhe soldiers Were around and my peopie were stumpeded and they rau of. t rap wo, We went to @ bul to lovk about tor our women. They were goue, and we didn't know where. Then J followed their trat: and overtook them. Tuey bad thrown away everytuing they had and were ieeliny Very badly. Asli went with tnem | told them that my iriends (or relatives) the soldiers, had Irigatened me ott without intend- ing it. My heart told me I did Hot andersiana their 3 . with some of their women, came and overtoo’ ns, and that night | felt so sad I could not rest. 1 COULD NOT LAY QUIETLY NOR SLREP for thinking over what nad occurred. Wi habet wae golng to Washington after Commis. stoner Alvord was here I told him to go sad find out what the President wanted ana | woula follow his taik. J felt, therefore, now I was going sway from my friends, and told my people 80, and that though we were frightened withont suMcient cause it was so. We went out on the Washita ana camped, at felt badly still. On:y stopped there a snort time, went on and then turned, ieaving the Wastite goicg n, and stopped this side of the Salt fork of We remained there awhile and started I told my people I did not want to go of any further west. | wanted to move in this way. I told them they bad been driven off through lear. I wanted to come back immediately, 80 we moved in this way, and | met the soldiers. We gave up all our arms ana ourselves, Tue officer in charge asked me te go with him on bis scout. They would sepd iu my young men or hold them tais post... Ltold them I would go, and said had been frightened away aud this Was my vation, 1 did not want to leave it, and | wae Teaty to go. Some order came from them in this way, | don't know what, and we moved in. They sent me with tne rest, MOTIVES OF THE KIOWAS. CoRBESPONDENT—Why did the Kiowas fire oF the troops tn the Wasbita agency oghs? BiG Rkp Foop—I could not teil; thev are a differ: ent people from me. I dou't know what object they had. his ne said with @ sigh, apperently taking # Sad retrospect to the, to him, wonappy past, and, thouch be compiained of a severe head. ache, he said he wouid go on with tie talk.) CORRESPONDENT—\Were your people in any fights wniie you were vut? Bic Rep Foop—We did not have any Oghting at ali. Our people were moving around ali the time. (Here he described a circle with bis band.) None 0! our peopie went out on raids nor were in any mischief wnile they were gone, General Davidsoa asked me that very question, and | called upou the Great Spirit to witness the truth of what I said, and itistrue. I'say so now. | asked what Was their authority, and the; id the Kiowa Mexicaa told them so. I talked with him about it and asked why he wanted me killed by lying about me. He wouid not answer ine, I don’t know why he shouid le about me or have anything against me, CORRESPONDENT—Have you had a hard time of it while you were vut? had potiiag th'sakane ; We had no! i ‘om Buffalo Big KeD Foop—Yes had no houses. We were very bad uv! Taeat was the only thing we had to eat. CUuRRESPONDENT —Did you miss your coffee, sugat and bread? Bie Rep Foop—Yes, very much, We had those things here, but while we were out we were de- prived of everything of that.xind. He smiled here as though touched cn a tendef point, and he was; for SORAR, coffee and soit bread, with looking glasses, will prove in his case ine very best promoterd of civitization and subordination. HOW HE ESCAPED. CorRESPONDENT—How did you manage to es cape uaburs irom the firing’at you by tne sol- diers Bia Rep Foov—{ knew «they were Orlzg a good deal and none of them nit me. I started just right out. I was on @ very fast horse and lren. Idon’t know exactly how I sut on my horse. I don’t, claim to have any medicine. 1 think my iriends the soldiers took pity on me. CORRESPONDENT—Wnat do you want to say through the HEKALD? BiG Rzp Foop—If I am liberated from here I would hike to go to farming and settle down and live in a house, have my children go to scliool and learn all about your great paper. Ay confine- ment here ts very severe, it is very tiresome, and } wish they would let me go tomy camp. Loniy Want todo what is right. I want this said to the white people through tue HERALD. Give me @ house to live in anda farm toratse corn and the Whole of the white man’s road. I told Eesa-to- huet I would like to have a house and 4 tarm to raise corn when I was going out to see that big Medicine man. It is very lonely here. Lieel very badly. My wile bas been here once to see we. (At this poimt the savage face, heretofore somewaat lighted up, now became clouded and darkened in hue, as tiough shrouded 10 a mental thunder storm.) I wouid hike to be liberated, have my irons taken off and go to my people. One thing above all others t would like is liberty. IT was libetated 1 would be willing to remain regu- larly in one place ana not move around. | think Tconid give up the chase and would not want to go of to the Plains again, CORRESPONDENT—Why then leave here at first, where everything was so pleasant ? Bic Rep Foop (in a melancholy tone, staring hike a doomed man and gazing into the void)— ‘fuere were two reasoox. One—I had noirame house to live m, and I had to bunt the buffalo to get robes and skins to make she.ter jor mysel! and jJamily, Another—all the Comanches wanted to go out and see the wonderful medicine, and when We got there We found we were deceived and sur- rounded by that organization to keep us there. Asa-habet was also there, and the Quahadas came near killing him. He just escaped, that’s all. THE MEDICINE MAN. CORRESPONDENT—What do you think of the med- icine man now and Nis medicine ¢ Bia REP Foop (thoughttuily and evasively)—I could Wardly tell whether, It Would prove good or not come ‘o pass. 1 had beard that whoever would stay here by the white people tney would not stay here in prosperity. Il they remained bere the medicine mau would make medicine to bring puuisnment upou them. f am hardly abie to ju ige yet whether the medicive was real or not. It bext spring, when everything green should start to grow and the leaves and grass are reeu, if ali these streams of water dry up, then will think that It Was good medicine; now, [ really do not know. | heard tua the meaicive man Uxed the white men’s guns so they would not go of. (ihis was the principal fallacy pro- mulguted among ail the Indians to get them to Tesort to oven resistance.) [| did not hear toat we could capture the soldiers with sticks. (This was also another of the medicine man’s doc- trines.) CORRESPONDENT (desiring to trip the wary In- dian on bis theories)—Did you not feel that ine dry weather, no water and the great storms which prevatied in this country last suinmer were a pun- isnment to the Indian tor hus conduct to the gov- ernment? Big Kep Foop—I heard cur medicine was made to dry up every: hing—‘hat it would prevent rato, end that next season the dry Weather and no grass nor water would be a great deal worse, CORMESPONDENT—Havan's you ound that the In- dians on the Plains suffer more from that kind of Medicine than the white man here or the good Indians who oave stayed in at the agencies? DRIVEN INTO & CORNER. Bio Rep Foop (savagely tighteumg up hfs lips and every ieature apparently 1 oximg back men- tally in sadness, afd lowering his brows witn @ gesture, pose and expression that bad a world in It, Whether of regret, compunciiow or being net tled your correspondent could not tell; but all at olce, as he reasoned through bis past answers and to the present issue, he saw that he was vrivea im'o @ corner and tried to evade au ans Fie naliy he said)—I don’t know anything about it. Have not scen any oul wio has remained in here, nor have | heard Whetner they suferea or not, CORKKSPONDENT—What do you think they are going to ao with you? Big RED Foop— (Here bis face became all wobe- ate and assumed an air of desolation and despair which it was really pittiul anu paintal to observe, so much in contrast to the broad jaugh und tickled gensé of delizht provoked by your cor- respondent when at last he was torced tow Knowledge that he was cornered in the interro; tories ou the big medicine question, which he wa: religiousiy bound to advocate and of whica h always spoke most reverentialiy, though with his natural gute of stroug and precise thougit, ne saw finally he would be forced to susiein the medicine theory or be placed in the ridicuivus sition of advocating What he now ieit by con on reflection would be avsurd, according te Dis own reasoning. Avove all otuer things an indian WLI not do is to appear absurd, as tt is contrary to hig dignity and “amour propre.’ He acknowi. edged by action, if uot in words, that he was OUTWITPED IN THR QUESTIONING and answering; but to his future, devoted almost Moses like to iS people, unseltishly and seéli-sacri- Acingly, he evidentiy weighed bow badly off th might be without iim, and was as dletressed a this thought vpe would suppose as ne well could be. The thick swelled veins oi his forehead, which up to this coursed to the suli atour lave merriment on the theological coutroversy, subsided like @ rip- pimg streamiet t -uched wit cing irost, aad on that broad wainut colored iorehead and quick turob. bing remples a chill had been sent, save afd ex. cept that a sudden perspiration stood out tn big drops on his distended and nervously twitching nostril, and tn a monotone he said, droupingly:— “1 do nov Koow, I nave not heard.” Like unto a stricken eagie a wounded, power. less pantner, a paralyzed bloodhound, he sat rigid, motivnless‘and appalled. FIFTY-SEVENTH STREET COURT. ARREST OF TWO OLD THIEVES. Before Justice Otterbourg. Op the morning Of the 13th inst. Mr. Thomas L. Goodwin, of No. 45 Dove street, Albany. wag robbed in @ sleeping car at the Grand Central depot, of a gold watch and chain, valued at $100, Two men, who had been oitem noticed around the passenger rooms oj the depot were suspected, and on Thursday they were arrested. The prisoners described themselves as William Brooks, aged forty-five, a resident of Pniadelphia 4 & cars penter by trade; and Joseph Morton, aged thirty. i No. Ciarksou street, carpenter. in session Wak ound & pawn Ucket Whicao d Mr. Good win's timepiece. The thieves were taken to the Central Urtice, where Brooss Was recognized by Ihe oldest detectives as a hotel thief who, about fifteen years ago, was the leader of his profession. Both were committed in dee fault of $2,009 bail each, EXTRA SESSION OF THE VERMONT LEGISLATURE. The Governor of Vermont bas called ap extra Session of the Legistature, to ve convened on the 13th Of January next, ‘or the purpose of making an appropriation for revutiding the State Reiorm School at Waterbury, destroyed by fire on the 12th wDtention, and as | went round with my peopio | felt sad, As went on some distance the Kiowas, mst. The cos: of jexisiation In ins case ts ikely to be much more than tae appropriauion expected to be obtained,