The New York Herald Newspaper, November 5, 1874, Page 3

AFTER THE BATTLE Interviews with the Victors | and the Vanquished. NO THIRD TERM. Mr. Tilden on the Contest and Its Results. VIEWS OF CONGRESSMEN-ELECT. What Messrs, Ottendorferand Wales Have to Say Under Defeat. MR. KELLY ON THE VICTORY. The Results in the Outside States. | THE NEW CONGRESSMEN. The republican defeat of Tuesday caused fow @igns 0: despondency to be maniiested yesterday m the one side or of victory on tne other. A @tranger passing through tne city would not Bave known from any outward sign thata po- litical revoiution, atfecting the social status of thousands of persons in this country, haa been effected on the previousday. With that wonderiul adaptation of means to ends that the American people have acquired bya century's familarity with the institutions of a republic, this great po- litical change was accomplished without disturb- Ing, apparentiy, by the slightest ripple, the ordi- mary current of human life, From the Battery to Bariem, there was not even the outward token of the recent confict. Here una there was a banner shat was still swaying in the breeze, with the fair nd gentle ieatures of a defeated or a saccessful Candidate portrayed thereon; but, apart from that, there was no hint that a great battle had ‘been lost or won. Men who had worked on the Previous day with a vigor which seemed to ind- @ate that the tate of the nation hung upon their exertions were at their ordinary business yester- Gay, bright and early, apparently oblivious of the mighty change that had been wrought in State and national affairs, This was, however, a mere eurlace indication. The most casual attention to the conversation of men in the cars, the stages and the salo.ns, or the overheard talk of the side- walks, showed that men were comparing notes and taking counse. together as to what this repubil- ean defeat really meant. The general result of these talks—talks that were either overheard or Participated in by the HERALD reporters—was that the administration had received by these elections & Very proper and emphatic rebuke. It was also Bscertained that more republicans had voted “scratchea’’ democratic ticketsthan was generally Supposed, and that the motive that had prompted this was a weariness with the dnancial and the | Seuthern policy of the Grant adminiztration. It ‘was noticeable, too, that in all the talk about the city vote there was everywhere, without an ex- veption, openly expressed congratulations that ‘Jimmy Hayes” had been defeated, Men said, one to the other, “New York bas saved itself trom that disgrace anyhow.” A prominent democrat, and one very likely to be posted in this regard, said that be bad good reasons to believe that Morrissey had spent from $40,000 vo $50,000 on this election, and that Hayes | had spent about $15,000, Large sums of money had been spent to influence the delegates to the Nominating Convention, so as to optain the Tam- many nomination tor Hayes, making certain tnat if the nomination was ovtained the victory at the election was sure. General Jones was spoken of every where with great respect, and os thoroughiy worthy of the possession of the great municipal prize of the canvass. CITY HALL AND COURT HOUSB. Among the empioyés of the city government the effect of Tuesday's election took @ practical shape. {pm all the offices the clerks and messengers were considering how long their official heads would femaib on their shoulders. Une oi the questions @nxiously discussed was whether the Mayor- elect would endeavor to promote more harmony in toe various Commissions by making some change in the personnel of the offices, as far as he couid do 80, witnout waiting for legisiative action. As this was a question thatcouid not now be answered, the employés generally determined benceforth to be good democrats and wait tor something turning up. In the offices of the Board | of Ald bee boo lor the next Board; an effort tat will scarcely meet witn absolute success ior @ day or twoyet. It was, er, quite certain that the returns, as far as beard jrum, show that the Board will nave a large Gemocratic majority. POLICE HEADQUARTERS. ‘The marble nail of Mulberry street, which in the old time Was the lounging place of politicians, and the building where men witn political proclivities of the it ate) Most did congregate, has ceased to re. dezvous of tois character. Th Commissioners do not pro! to be politicians | {a tne pro sense, and theroiore it | bas come to be unders that the polt- a itician, tician, as fe not particularly ge. in the building. Tue co ence ns Was made manifest yesterday, ‘There was ry t brie | of men in the corridors throughouc day, vat it was made up eatirely of inspectors Of election who were delivering their returns at the Bareau o! Elections, the Commissioners were in their respective rooms, and only admitted to their Ince their persoual friends. Discorsive talk at the election of the previous dav was not ncouraged, and as this seemed to be understood re were few prominent politicians at Police quarters yesterday. ‘oom! TAMMANY HALL, Tammany Hall aod its adjoining r were ven OVer yesterduy to the “sweepers,” “scrub. and “dusters,” politician ‘dropped tn’ he soon “‘uropped ont’ again, _ He was told 1n prety practical sbupe that he was in tho way. 18 was good ior the adjoming saloons, the neighborhod of Fourteenth street tnere w goodly nomber of Tammany wen here and there. ‘hey all took their drinks, which were light and of the soda water and lemonade kind, and taken asa correction of the little excess of the previous night, as if their Jeet were again on their Dative heath, and as thougn there was xome- | thing ia the air that spoke of “a good time coming, | Lven here it was noticeable that tie elec won of General Jones to the Registership was nut regarded as @ disaster. Nobody even woispered a regret ior Jimmy Hayes, and ail were agreed that \s served Morrissey right tor forcing Jimmy's nomi- gation, PIFTH AVENUE HOTEL, What a falling off was here! The sult of rooms | on the I'wenty-fourvn street cutrance tnat had been used by the State Committee, tne walls of Which had encompassed #0 many distinguisied fepuvlicans, men Wuose fame is in all the nation, | Aud at whoge fuvies had been busily engaged tor weeks past & smali army Oo: clerks, was yesterday trausiormed into bedroom:, All was quier, | peace, stillness, and a small walnut bedstead, With spotiess linen laid tuereon, where beiore had | Tesounded tie tramp of the nation’s loerators. All :ewembrances o1 the past, +o bitter in thei | Meaiories; all reminders of the iguoble defeat of the men who came there “to praise Cesar, not 10 bory im,’ vad been cast iuto oblivion py the aa oitices of the chambermeid. At the bar, even, and in tue newsroom a republican ofice: holder couid nut be ioun MR. TILDEN INTERVIEWED. prin 4 HeRato reporter had a protracted interview yesterday afternoon with the Hon, Samuel J. Til- den, who was on Tuesday elected vy the people at large as the next Governor of New York. When he arrived at the gen'leman’s residence he was Iniormed that Mr. Tilden bad gone out riding, as asval, through Central vark, anu that ne was not \ikely to return to his Gramercy Park mansion ‘until lace in theday. Accepting the hospitalities extended him at the house, be amused limself until the nour of two P.M. at which time Mr, Tilden arrived, Amo. | ment giter the feporver sent in ie card and Was welcvmed by the suscess(ai guoer: NEW YORK HERALD, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 1874—TRIPLE SHEET. Batorial candidate, who was arrayed in nis ordimary morning riding costume of Scotch cap, cavalry boots and silver spurs. The reporter informed Mr. Tilden that ne had been sent by the HERALD to interview him, and his reply was that the characteristic interviewer was always hungry, and that, as he himself haa not tasted a moutbful since egriy morning, both had better take lunch before conversation, In | reply to aminquiry Air. Tilden stated that he had | very little to say, and that the visit, occurring at the hour it did, was Riguly imelicitous, as be had an | Important engagement down town, for the fulfi- ment of which he was momentarily expecting nis carriage, 7 REropTsr—But, whatever to say to me about Grant and the third term t i “Yes, I have,” returned Mr. Tilden with a smile, “I tuink the people o1 this Stute yesterday entered an emphatic protest against Grantism and a third term." Rerorrgk—Dv you really think, Mr. Tilden, that President Grant thinks that he cau be elected ior @ third term ¢ HE THIRD TERM. Mr. Titpun—Weil. I scarcely know what the | German priests worked actively aguinst him, Presidenc will think aiter reading the returns from the various Stutes to-day; but at the same time our President is very persistent, closing his ears against the advice of nis associates, against the veice O! popular opinion, while at the same time he protesses w contempt for what ne calle ‘the ‘traordinary pressure of the New York ress.” ‘That he bas for a long time entertained he parpose of running ior a third term 1 HAVE NO Dousr. Indeed, private information from persons who have tae dest facilities for acquiring knowledge | Upon the subject mages me ieei as certain as 0! can be im regard to such a thing that General Grant's private design is ‘TO CONTINUE HIS POWER by re-election, and, 1! he jsucceeds, why may he not run for @ fourth and fiith term? All tue iolormation obtained from eminent repubi cans, who can scarcely be mistaken on the sub- ject, convinces me that what I say is tr of course it is pussiple that General Grant's refusal to make expression which would commit himself might be accounted Jor in either of TWO ways. But at the same time it is barely possible that it miglt be the aictates of u personal pride. Almost any other man Would feel some consideration tor the entresties of his nearert friends, Jor his Cabinet and for tue interests of the great party which for two Presidential terms in the face of all obstacles has supported him. ‘This fact alone ought to be sutticient to induce the mau to disclaim au intention which he does not entertain, especially if that intention be one which most peovie Would regerd with alarm and abbor- rence. The most probanie solution is, thatgthe President does not wish TO COMMIT LIIMSELF, but on the contrary intends to await any oppor- tunity that may offer itseif to gratify his ambition. At all events it 1s certain that men of hign intelli- gence in Washington, with peculiar means of ac- quiring correct iu) tion rom the secret coun- ceils of the republican purty, both believe and assert that aoa u gins rant entertains the decig¢ ot running tor @ third term, + AFFAIRS OF STATE, RevorTter—Well, leavin) term, against which you have personally, in your conversation With me, passed such an empiiatic protest, What cam you tell me of the manner in wpe you Insend to administer the duties of your o ice Mr. ‘ITLDEN—I have aiready given you more time than J intended. But in anawer to your last ques- tion I would say that on Tuesday last the peupie judged of me and Of my life. I iutend to give the people in return, as iar as may aepend upon Me, just as good a government as 13 possible. Noman ever entered the execu- tive office of a State with more absolute freedom to act upon his own good judgment than myseli; no man waa ever more sree irom ull entangiement and the misleading influence of personal am- bition. I may jail in judgment as to what I onght to do in some particular instance, but if euch is the case it will be solely irom deiect of under- standing. Asfar asl may aecribe to myseil any mission, it is to lift the standard of official lle and public administration to tne same elevation which they formerly had. For the last twenty years where has been a steady and gradualaescent. We must now return to a better condition of things, OF popular government will be lost, I consider no benelaction to our four and a balf millions of people oi equal value to the renovation of the machinery of human society which makes and executes the laws and admin- isters justice. There has been no time in the his- tory of the country when improvement has been so beediulas now. I appreciate my situation, I assume my obligations, trusting that during my term of office all things may be ruied in justice, dignity and honor. A CHAT WITH MR. WALES. —-—_—_- Mr. Wales, who was ina very good humour, said that as tar as he himself was comcerned the resuit was just what be had expected. He had only been here two days, alter his return from Europe, when ®@ committee came to him offering him tbe nomina- tion. He deciined it at first, as he dia not desire to enter the political arena, but as it was repre- sented to him that he was the omy man on whom they were able join, as he had kept away trom political chques and mancuvres, he accepted tne nomination, never expecting, however, that he would be elected. Mr. Wales was then asked why the republicans did not indorse Ottendorfer. He replied that shey cuuld not afford to divert tne strength of the party irom the Governorship, If | they had supporied Ottendorier it would have cost them a great many votes jor Dix. MR. WALES ON THE VOTR. Mr. Wales, in the further course of the conver- sation, said, with modest frankness, that he did not tuink be had greatly disapovinted bis repubit- can iriends who had torced the nomination upon him because they considered him the strongest avallable candidate, His vote was 5,000 Lehind that of Dix, wile Wickham’s was 17,000 behind Tilden, showing that he (Wales) did not run s0 very badly at all. Ottendorier took undoubtedly maby votes from him. In regard to the Governorship, Mr. Wales ex- ose great disappointment, General Dix, io ia Opinion, Was one of the best Governors New York bad ever had. Th:re was no doubt that the third term agitation began by the HERALD and so persistently carried on by it was, to a great ex- tent, the cause of tais astonishing deieat. Arter Dis return irom Europe he was astonisued to flad that the HeHaLD’s ideas on Cesarism, as it was called, had taken @ wonderial hold of the best clagses of the community. He was very sorry for this, a8 he feit convinced that General Graut bp a no circumstances, accept & nomna- fo THR THIRD TERM. There was no doubt that the republican party had received avery severe rebuke ior ite many laches in the ndministration of the national affairs, and because it had Jailed to respond to the wishes ol tne — in OQ great many respects. Another cause of the detest of tne repudiican party was the stagnation of business, which was laid to the administration, althouzh it had literally nothing to do with it, General Bueler nad also greatly hart the party, and he (Mr. Wales) was beartily glad that he had been aeteated. He under. stood that Wicknam and Kelly had promised to give all the idle laborers employment and thought that, unless they handled this labor ques: ion very carefully, serious trouble must enst Jrom the disappointment of their pees Or cow it was impossible to give fil the idle workingmen employment, and he thought it a great wroug to Geluae them with such iaise promises. In conoiu- sion bir, Wales regretiod that General Urant liad Not followed the arvice of the HERALD, shaken o! Tor ouce, his usanal reticense and aedlared nimsel on the subject of the third term. WHAT MR. OTTENDORFER SAYS. Mr. Ottendorfer was visitod last evening at nis magnificent residence in East Seventeenth street, The burden of his defeat sat certainly lightly on his shoulders, His usually cheeritul and pleasant lace Wore, if possible, a still more good humored expression, and his manner had tost nothing of ts amtavlitty, In tact,so tar as Mr, Ottendorier’s appearance is concerned, he might as weil have been the successful candidate as the de:eated one, His views Mr. Uttendorfer expressed very readily. He sald his main purpose in going into the can, vass was his indignation at the manner in which Wickham and Hayes had been nominatea, And he wished to give the people a chance to pro- test against such a subversion of their rights. Wickham and Hayes were the choice of two or three men, and not of the people, and it was time | to check the growth of such practices, which could not but undermine the very foundation of repubii- can institutions, He (Mr, Ottendorfer) knew that Tammany could be vanquished if the oppositiun could only be | united, and the independent democrats told the republicans that they would nominate any good mat who would be acceptable to them. ‘They (the iMuependents) proposed William Butler Daoncan or Royal Puelps, in coniormity with the suggestion or the HERALD, but the repablicans thought they woud iatner “et the matter go by deiault,” and declined to enter into & y alliance, Ag, finally, no other man cuuld be jounu Lo run on the indepen- dent ticket, he (Mr. Ottendorier) OUNSENTYD TO BECOME & CANDIDATE, although, ol course, he never entertained the slightest expectatiun o1 doing elected. ment was to be a protest ugainst Kelly and Mor- rissey, that was all. it had, in 80 Jar, been suc- cessiul, a8 Hayes iad been deieaced, which was certainly @ matter tor every one’s congratulation, Sume people haw asked why lie did nut withdraw when the republicans vad reinsed to indorse uls Domination, Weill, the reason sor this line 01 | olicy on his part Wes very pain. Taree-iourthe of the Votes given jor hita Were those vl Tammany Ger- dns, wid, the Had Witaurawa, would have Voted whe Tammany wien ‘Os of the'saow Verse Whiea Mr. Tiiden, pave you nothing | | the sugject of the third | « He ‘The move: | | | have been swelled by 15,090, | the Jact that the race alluded to.was ex- | pected to be the closest. It was’ claimed, for instance, that the thorough discipline he received over 20,000 were probably Germans— 16,000 democrats and 5,600 republicans. Jf he had withdrawn the republican vote would bave been increased by 6,000, but the Tammany vote would When asked as tothe immediate causes of his | defeat Mr. Ottendorfer said his party had NO ORGANIZATION OR MACHINERY, which, of course, Wu8 @ great disadvantage. He Was also betrayed by some of the candidates jor Congress and Assembly, who pr mised to “run” | his tickets trom their boxes, and “run”? Waies?_ tickets tstead. ‘This was, for instance, the case with regard to O’Brien’s boxes, Mr. Ottendorter, who 1s a9 frank as he 18 fearless in the expression of his views, confessed that he had expected to | araw out a larger vote—about 30,000. The Ger- | mans had undoubtedly gone into the contest with a will, and he was positively toucned by the general entnustasm among his coun- | trymen, which was much greuter than he bad had a right toexpect. The German vote in this city amounted to about 28,000 or 40,000, He une Gerstood that 27,000 of these had registered, aud this vote was to be distributed as joliows:—5,000 Jor the Tawmany ticket, 1,000 for the repuplican aad over 20,000 or bimself, The remainder of his vote came Irom Americans, One of the prizctpai reasons why 80 many Ger- mans voted against him was because the Catholic making the German Catholics believe that he was an enemy ofthe Church because he uphell Bis- | marck’s anti-Catholic Church policy in the columns | of the Staats Zeitung, The idea seemed to afford | Mr. Ottendorfer much amusement, for he laugaed | over it heartily. A TALK WITH SACHEM KELLY. The triumphant rally of the democracy in this elty on Tuesday last naturally draws attention to the strategist who planned the tattle, now that the atmosphere is once again cleared of the Political smoke incident to the struggle for su- premacy., Tnere can be little doubt that the con- | test lor the Registership between Mr. Hayes and General Jones created more personal interest than any other event on the county ticket, simply trom | Qua excellent organization of the Tammany Hall forces would carry Hayes througn by a hand- some majority, although it was generally con- ceded that no more tormidable candidate ior the ottice could have been selected than his opponent, ‘In order to obtain the views of Mr. John Kelly as to the probable causes which led to tre deteat of the Tammany nominee as well asin other mat- ters appertaining to the election, a representauuve of the HERALD visited him yesterday at his office in Nassau street, Mr. Keily seemed to be in good spirits, although evidently considerably fatigued. In reierriug to the deieat of Hayes, he said that the impression | prevailing on the day of election that Hayes was | ‘ohn Morrissey’s candidate was entirely er- | roneous, Several candidates had been mentioned the nomination, and the selection Hayes was due mamly to his own indefatigadle exertions. Mr. Morrissey Was his iriend, and he certainly had a rmyht to assist Lim in every way be could. But Mr. Hayes owed & great deal to his own efforts. Among the elements which contributed to the deleat of | Hayes the fact that ne had belonged to the old Board of Supervisors was taken advantage of by the opposition and made capital of, 80 jar as mis- representing his action’ was concerned. Mr. Kelly said he considered Hayes a very eligipie can- | didate and a man who would have given general satixiaction to the people. He was well acquainted jor years with his character and reputation, and he had every reason to hope that he would be elected. Mr, Kelly complimented his opponents for the skiliul manver in which General Jones’ in- terests had been taken care of. In conclusion, be Teferred to the jainiul event which bad marred the election proceedings in the Twonty-first ward, and hoped tliat the time was at hand when peace and good order would mark our annual political contests, THE OPINION OF JOHN MORRISSEY. Last evening & representative of the HERALD called at the Hoffman House jor the purpose of having a talk with John Morrissey in regard to the political battle whose last gun was fired at four o’clock on Tuesday aiternoon.. Mr. Morrissey has bis home at the Hoffmun House, with bis wite and children, and was very busy all day ana even- ing receiving despatches and holding conierences with prominent democratic leaders in regard to the result of the elections. Those who suppos» that Morrissey is downcast in regard to the de- feat of Hayes for Register evidentiy have not seen him since the fight. He looks upon the result as @ most glorious proof of the compactness and solidity of the Tammany organization, and asserts that, despite the | traitors, who have been punished and beaten, the | democracy have won. The elevator in the Hot!- man House took the HERALD representative and Mr. Morrissey to bis suit of roome, and the later gentieman having lighted 9 good cigar and taken om lis coat, having been previously attired in black evening dress, the powwow began. HERALD REPRESENTATIVE—What do you think, Mr. Morrissey, of the general result of the State and local elections ? Mr. MoRRISsEY—I am not surprised at the re- sult. Istated wher Mr. Tilden was nominated at Syracuse that he would be elected by a handsome | majority. I thought that he was the strongest man that could have been numinated. He fought corruption in his own party. He was the nest man | to attack the republican party within the State. Herat REPRESENTATIVE--W hy was he the best man Mr. MORRISSEY —Because every man that knows | him also koows tha; he is an honest man, as well a8 4 Mun Oi great ability. My reasons jor thinking that ne would ve elected were that the people were tired of arepubiican administraion. en in business were not making any money; there were thirty or iorty thousaad people out of em- ployment im the city o: New York; haif of the workshops were closed throughout the State. No change coald make their condition any worse tuan 1t 18 at present, HERALD REPRESENTATIVE—Mr. Morrissey, do you jeel that tue Tammany organization has won a great triumph in the city and county of New York? Mr. MOKRISSEY—1 think that Tammany has gained wonders; they have elected seventeen Members out of twenty-one in the diferent as- sembiy districts of the city, and they have elected every memoper of Soagse § uominatea them. ‘They have elected all of their county ticket, with the exception of Mr, Hayes ior Regiater. HERALD REPRESENTATIVE—Mr. Alorrissoy, how coe explain tue defeat of Mr. Hayes? Ir. MOMRISSEY—By the separate effort of the | press agatust him, and by the combined edforts of oe traitora to the democratic party. REPREsANTATIVE—Why Was the press against tim? | Mr, MoRnIesex—I don’t thing that vd ‘under- be was in the Board | & combination stood his position. It 1s tru of Supervisors when there wai between the republicans and two leaders of tnat combination Tweed on one side aga demoori Henry Smith on the republican side. It took seven out of twelve votes in the Board to carry av measore or bill. James Ha; was combination. He voted for bills whic! my judg- ment it was Joolish (or him to have done. He | id no more than any other men who, held office under the Ring at that time. Iftney | did not do as the Ring wanted thom to do they | had no political future. fought Tweea Co. wheu he was a member o1 the Buard of Supe: visors 10 1870, He went to Alban: id asked for | the abolition of the Board of Supervisors. Had ne received any portion of the plunder through the Board of -upervisors Hayes would certainty not have done that, It must remembered by the Public that James Huyes had incurred the enmity of the Ring, together wito myself, aud we were pl expelled Ly tue Ring from Tammany Hall in 70. HERALD REPRESENTATIVE—WhO were the pri cipal traitors, as you call them, Sic, Morrissey, that heiped to deieat Mr. Hayes ? Mr, MORRISSRY—-Jolia Fox and Thomas Creamer. They were the leaders of the traitorous party. HX&RALD REPRESENTATIVE—I see tat Senator Joho Fox had a severe letter against yourself aud | James Hayes, which was published in the HgRap. Mr. MorRissey—Dhat1sno more than I could expect from a man like ox, There is ot a dollar that he has got to-day that he nas not stolen in political positions that he has held. He | commenced 1n the Board ot Aldermen and was in the ring in the Board of Supervisors, and no Dbilis passed there that he did not get his percentage out of. Ingersoll, Garvey and Woodward, If they #0 desired, could tell the amount wuich Fox re- ceived. He was noted for Grd and getting more than anybody else In the Board, This 1s one of tne menu who has dared to asperse the honesty of James Hayes. Fox was elected to the Senate last winter, and the first move that be made was to get on the Committee of Cities tn ough the influence of prominent repubiicans, anc for this ne agreed to provect their interests, and he Was also to protect the 1oterests of Van Nort’s department and the Police Department. He was particularly anxious to protect them. There wus one bill which wi introduced into the Committee on_ Cities, giving the Commissioner of Pubic Works power to do | fitteen miles of work into un uniimited supply of money which the Commissioner of Public Works was to expend when he “deemed 1t most expedient.’ ‘that was the exact language oi the bill, Fox signed that report and advocated the pussnge of the bill. The Comanttee on Or- ganization of Tammany Mall, sceing this infamons {ob Met and imstrucied Fox to vore against tne bill, Had this bill passed the Commissioner of Pauvlic Works would Ifave had 25,000 men employed on this Work, und Jor this work they would have been compelled to vote against the demveratic | party. A refusal to comply would have iost them vheir sitaations. Tnere has not been one ede job in Fag Beate Senace aluce he vas been there that Jonn Fox has not voted for. road bila. Ifyou will jook at the names of tne incorporators in the bills i, will ind that they are all repnolicans with the exception of Fox's own intimate friends, These bills were passed agaist the decided protest of merchants and business men, with A. . stewart among others. Fox states in mis letter to the HERALD that bis consticuents have *bovored him’? and lie has “served then.’ It looks to me as if he had not served auybody but himself, und I think that it will be along while before the people will “popor” him again. At this juncttre Mr. James Hayes and Mr. George Middleton, who had cailed to see Mr. Morrissey, rer and were greeted quite warmly by the jatier, HeRaLp Represenrarive—What do you think sons the United Staves Senatorship, Mr. Morris- sey Mr, MORRISSEY—It appears to me that it might be a very close contest, and possibly one vote might decide it, iwarn the democracy to keep | watch of John Fox in the contest for the United ——- | well versed in ail tue technicalities of partiamen- { | tary proceedings. } THE CURRENCY QUESTION, | | When asked as to his views in regard to the pol- | jey likely to be pursued by the democratic party | ip dealing with the Snancia question, Mr. Ely | Suld:—"l am persoualiy a hard mouey man aud believe im a return to specte pay- meats at the earliest possible’ imoment, but I doubt very mucs whether the Forty-lourtu | Congress wili be convened velore December, 1875, | | So there 1s plenty of time in waicx we can make | up our mind as to what is the best way to deter. | Mive upon a good plan which will meet with | general approvation. There are of course a | variety Of opinions on this subject, according to | locality—tor instance, iu the West people want | | expansion, while we in the East want hard | | money. The people, however, beiore the time tor | action comes will have thoroughly discussed the | matter, and we shail then know what to do,” | GRANT'S THIRD TREM KILLED. j In reterring to the third term question Mr. Ely | | the election may weil be imagined, sistant Aldermen. President Vance, who is well known ag@ member of the Board of Apportion- ment, is Mkewise re-elected. So, also, 1% Alder- man Oliver P. C. Billings. ‘nese ure wi of the 14 memoers returned. Mayor Havemeyer says vers little a election. ile seems to evince neither the democratic “tidal wave” nor repiet at ablican “Waterloo,” ris Honor, however, as tur ack as last August, predicted the delat of Gene- ral Dix and the repuvlican State teckel, and oa this be seemed ratuer to priae himself. ‘The elecuop returns, Which are required by law to be handed tn to the Board of supervisors aud County Clerk, ag also to the Mayor, came in pretiy rapidly. Mr. D, C. Wendell, the Blayor's Chief Clerk, recetpted tor about 400 yesteraay ; avout 179 more are to come tn. ‘The feeling in the federal offices on account of bespondeicy, if not absolutely admitted. 18 at jeast apparent ia the sickly smile of the officials waen conversing upon the late canvass, Very little is seid npon t the ton at @ Yes States Senatorship, because if there 18 money on | said:—*l am unquestionably of opinion that all | the subject, except philosophic expression® of the other side they will certainly have todo every- tuing in their power to prevent bim from taking it, It will take a loaded canuon traincd on Sen- ator Fox to keep him from taking the money. HERALD REPRESENTATIVE—What was the course of John Fox in the late election? Mr. Monnissey—He made a bargain with the same repuvlicaps who had placed him on the Committee on Cittes, providing that if they would Jun & candidate lor Congress in the Pulth Congres- sional district. he would work with his irtends to support Patrick Jones for Register. ‘The repub- licans carried out their part of the contract and Fox. carried out lus part for the first time in his lie, The republicans nominated Eugeue Earle for Con- gress in the Fifth Congressional district, who only get sx votes. Dix got 5,055 votes in the same dis- trict, Iwould like to nave Fox explain how he accounts for the difference in the fixures on the vote between Governor and Congressman ? HERALD REPRESENTATIVE—Why did you take such an interest, Mr. Morrissey, in Mr. Hayes ? ‘The pubile are curious to know. Mr. MORRIsSEY—I have known him for many years; when I ran for Congress he served me Jaithfully. 1 thought he was competent to hold any office under the city government. HERALD REPRESENTATIVE—Is 1b true that Mr. Hayes is rich? Mr. MORBISsRY—He Ought to be, if what the | newspapers say be true. He ts not rich. I suppose | he 1s to-day worth in the neighborhood of $60,000. fle bought some prooerty some years ago in the Fourteenth ward, which has euhanced vut very iattle in value, and brings him tn just rent enougu to support himself and family and educate his enlidren, HeRALD REePRESENTATIVE—The canvass made by Mr. Hayes must have cost him a considerable | amountof money. How did he get it? Mr. MorRisexy—The day he was nominated he | did not have $1,000 in Cash tu the world. [loaned | himr $18,000 to carry his canvass on. | would not Mention this 1act but jor the impression that has got beiore the public that he made great sams of Money while holding official positions, HgRALD REPRESENTATIVE—WhO made the nomi- nation of James Hayes for Register ? Was it made by gobn Kelly, yourself, or by the Tammany organi- zation Mr. Morrissey—Mr, Kelly never told me that he would go for Mr. Hayes. When I asked him for his assistance he stated that it was an office ; tnat be had not imterered witb, and that he had not taken any part in the nomination, Convention met, I went to every delegation in the Convention and used whatever influence L Nad to have them go for Hayes. He got the nomi- nation Unanimously, 650 delegates voting for him, Fox's delegation votnge for Hayes among the rest, ao not regret any part I have taken in the support: of Hayes, I should not have done iti! I had not thought that James Hayes was a good democrat. ad Qn honest man, just as I think this night und jour,” The interview was then conciuded, it being a very late hour and the HERALD representative bade him good eVening. As he leit Mr. Middleton. said, “I teil you 1t was Waterloo for the Kickers.’, MR. BICHARD SCHELL’S VIEWS. Among the Congressmen elect visited yesterday by a repregentative of the HERALD was Mr. Richard Scifell, who has been elected to fill the vacancy caused by the death of Mr. David b. Mellish, Mr. Schell gave it as his decided opinion that the sweeping victories gained on Tuesday last by the democratic party was a decided and clear indication on the part of the people that vhey desired a change in the administration of national affairs. This, therefore, denoted that on the next Presidential.election the democratic candidate would be chosen by an overwhelming majority. AS to who the standard bearer of the. party would be he thought it was almost too early to venture an opinion upon, but the triumphant manner in which Mr. Tilden had been elected he thougnt was a pretty sure indication that he would be the democratic candidate, For, said Mr. Schell, a man who can organize and successtully carry out sucha campaign would command the support of every democrat. Again, he being the chosen of the State of New York, with the immense influ- ence gained therefrom, as u natural consequence will have the benefit of allthe prestige that such @ position creates. In regard to the possible can- diaate for the Presidency on tne republican side Mr. Schell expressed his opinion that it would be Senator Conkling, or, posaibiy, ex-Governor Wash- burne. The latter, however, he thought, woud have to give wey for the tirst named, ior the reason that although he did good ser- vice in his position while minster at Paris his deeds, which were then so much talked of and lauded, would be forgotten, while, on tne otber hand, Mr. Couxling had been constantiy before | the people. He thought, too, that this gentleman ‘Was geevally accredited with a greater degree of ability to exercise the lunctions appertaimag to the high office of President. DENT GRANT DORS NOT SERK A THIRD TERM. questioned in regard to what tis opinion was ag to the possibility of Genera Grant seeking uw third term Mr, Schell saia:—“I tnink the recent elections have effectuaily put a stop to any such idea being put into force, If 1t ever extated on *the part o1 tie republican leaders, But iam itee to say that President Grant, as jar as 1 can judge, never had any intention of seeking a re-eiec- tion; lor he has several times told me he Would not be @ candidate lor another term under avy circumstances. This he told mein the most emphatic languag Howe in agy event he bas bow no chance of being re-e.ected, even should he decide to change his Views and run lor the oflice of President again.’ THE DEMOCRATIO MAJORITY IN CONGRESS. Teieriing to the probable effect of ‘Tnes- elections on the next ere Mr. Schell no} ry to give increased se men generally, which wilk er activity in both com- mercial and dna airs, for the reason that the people will be certain that the ‘Will be carried out on a sound and set I am not o member or tne ext Con: my term expires in March: I have theretore paid bat ittle atiention to the policy likely tu be pursued by the democratic party in tue House in regard to financial matte: 1 au personally ‘ IN FAVOR OF BXPANDING THB CURRENOY rather tuan contracting it. I tmnk it would be better for the country inevery way. I believe in the Obio doctrine. At the saue time the present system of national bank currency shoud inevitably lead to for | be done away with, and nothing be allowed as the circulating medium but legal tenders issued by the goveroment. ‘ihese legal tenders wuuld only be issued against securities of fixed or sound value, such as bonds, waich might be deposited and drawn ugainst at their par price. nis system would not piace uny more paper money on the market than sucd as 18 avgoluteiy need-d, while at the same time it would prevent tinancial panics ana would soon bring ubout the tceling that the currency of the | country’ Was based on a sound principle, tor no one could get a dollar from tne Ireasury except as against collaterals deposited. Thus a return to specie Puyment conid pe had at any moment it was deemed expediour. In iact, a legal tender currency such as this would be equal to gold. It would, at all events, make an easy money marke’, and an easy money market means good business and prosperity for all, espectally jor the working classes, Trade of all kinds would revive and we soould be relieved of such exhibitions of wide. spread distresa as that 20 prevalent lust wioter.'? HON. SMITH ELY, JR., SPEAKS, Hon. Smith Ely, Jr., the Congressman-clect from the Seventh district, was found yesterday evening at the Manhattan Club, in company with @ large number of prominent democrats, who were all busily engaged talking over’ the victory. Mr, Ely appeared to be particularly jubilant, He said, when addressed by the HERALD representative and in answer to questions put to him, that he thougbt the gain made by the democratic party was due to the evident, and now expressed desire on the part of the American peopic to § cure @ change of the national administration. They are convinced, said Mr. Ely, that they cannot do worse than daring tne past few years, wulle the probabtlities point decidedly to an improve- ment by putting the democrats into power. inat there wil! 9e a democratic majority in the Huuse of Representatives there can be no doubt. returns show that that majority will be adout twenty, Which is suMcient to give the vuntrol. WHO 18 10 BE SPRAKER. As to WhO will be Speaker, I can only say that at present it look# to me as though th: choice would iailupou Hou. Fernando Wood. Ho seems to be | most likely to J cee aii 8 Wow Cou aad’ avess experience aad Ip It was uncertain who wonid | ve nominated or Register until the day that the | ‘rhe | enance of Grant peing re-elected 1s DOW gone jor- | ever, Our late victories 1 artribute, in a great | Measure, to the talk that has occurred on this | subject and the fear that the people had of sucn | an undesirable event being consummated, They, too, have hed enough of republican rule, or rather, I should say musrule, and want @ change, ‘There is no telling, however, with any degree of coneiad, what General Grant | may finally aecide upon. 'y imyressiou is that | he Will retire, but if he seeks a re-nomination he can easily secure it with nis tmmense patronage | and power. He, however, I tnink, has suiictent good sense to see that ne would be defeated. I Nave an idea that wren be makes up hia mina not to run that GRANT WILL NOMINATE HIS 8UCCESSOR, who will be one of those men who have been intl- mate with bim in his pleasures, That he woulu nominate either Conkling or Washburne I do not one moment imagine. He does not believe intellectuai superiority of etther of these gentle- men. A well educated man is the last he would | think of, It will be somebody that 1s with Grant, | of Grant and that has always been ior Grant, He will be as he always has been, led by his personal feelings. Toe democratic candidate ior the Presi- dency will be, I think, : | HON, THOMAS F. BAYARD, OF DELAWARE, | who wil! be satisfactory to all sections. Ne is well | situated as to locality, and as we have tried twice | with men trom New York and tallec to elect them, | it would be unwise, as well as unfair, to repeat | the experiment. SHALL TILDEN BE UNITED STATES We have a majority in the Assembly, and can elect, Ihave no doubt, the United States Senator. | As tu who it will be is as yes uncertain, but lam | of opinion thut Mr. Tliden will try his utmost to | secure the position and then retire trom the Gov. ernorship. The party, however, I tancy are of opinion that he should be satistied, It this view prevails, and | think it will, why then ex-Governor | Seymour can have the office if he will accent it, No doube Mr. Tilden would like if, for it 1s a place giving & higher salary, greater honor, and is, ve- sides, better fitted to nls capabilities, for ue would shine more In the Senate than in any position where heis called upon to exercise executive | powers. He will have tove content, however, with the subernatorial chair, He will not be pat | jorward as a candidate lor the Presidency. That | matter is beng now discussed in this club, and as | “we expect tohave something to say about the | next eiection you may take my word for it that | that will ve chosen.’? | A TALK WITH MR. HEWITT. prea a GLa | Mr. Abram 8. Hewitt, the Congressman elect | | for the Tenth aistrict, was also visited by a | HERALD representative at the residence of the | venerable Peter Cooper. Mr. Hewitt expressed | himself as more than pleased with the result of | the elections im the city and State, wnile at the | same time he said he was particularly gratified at | the splendid victories obtained by the democracy in other parts of the Union. in referring to his own election Mr. Hewitt said:—‘The people of | this city have no idea what the battle was that I had to fight. 1 did not seek office, in the firss place, and it was only at the oit-repeated solicita- tions of triends that I consented to accept a nom- ination. I was told that there would be no contest, except, probably, against a republican, which would have been no contest at all. Alter I hud agreed to run, however, I found that James O’Brien intended to make a fight for the office of ; Congressinan, and I at once became convinced | that it was a contest in which everything was at | | stake, for his candidature meant | RUFFIANISM AND COMMUNISM on his side as against law and order on the other, { or my side, and of which I was made by accident | the champion. Isoon became convinced that the | | struggie wouid be a bitter one on his side,and J act to Work to endeavor te counteract the evil tofuences | 1 was informed he intended tu bring to bear. Had | i not had such a long expertence in poiitical cam- | puigns and known how @ canvass 18 made 1 doupt | whether I should have been success.ul, As it Was, | 1 am beppy so say that principle and order has triumpued. ‘The disgraceia conduct of | O'Brien, whicd tnally culminated in a j muraer, on election day, ought to be made known to the pablic, and he bumseif be suown up to toe people in hs true colors. The police, tuo, are greatly to blame for the rioting and shootung which occurred, and the Commissioners ought to be removed irom office sor INCOMPETENOY AND INRFFICIENCY, I was iulormed several days ago that on election cay O'Brien intended to secure his own election by a system of intimidation and rufflanism, and I set to work to pre- vent it. His plan was, and as he subsequently tried to carry it out, at the head of about 160 | desperate thieves and ruffians of the lowest type, | | to rendezvous at @ certain point, and to march up | Second avenue to the limits of the district and back again through first avenue, and on the way to destroy all the ticket boxes and ballots, and at the same time to beat and maltreat the attendants at these boxes, so as ww strike terror through the district and prevent people from voting. I notttied the Police Comuitssioners of what O’Brien’a intention was, furnished them with names of the par‘ies who were to be em- | ployed and also of witnesses who knew of the | tacts, These oMcials promised to furnish @ Jorce of 200 men, to be siauoned, in citizens’ in meno wiio possess the cold, calculating and | ¢ the gentleman | have previously named is the one | ¢,j “Well, we have been badiy beaten, and tnere 1s ho immediate belp ior it.” ‘The deteat of Mr. John D, Lawson and Mr, Issa0 H. Bailey, botn Congressional candidates in what were supposed to be republican pee hoids, and of Bernard Bighn in the Eigoteentl Witham 8. Murray in the Futeentn and Solon Smith in the Eighth Assembly diatrict as members of the Assembiy; but especialiy tbe defeat of Charles Blackie in the ‘thirteenth district age tonisnes their partisans. But the s,ederal officials console themselves with the motto of Jacob Faithiul, Betrer luck next time.” ALDERMEN-AT-LARGE. ——— | 287) 228) 5/1829) 579| $59) 575) 39) 811) 370} $68) S97! J2189 Sho) Bat) BoE Hiss iol ieie a 7 80 | Leg 7 us| 1739} 1851555) 1067 173)! 1576) (291) 1021), 3129) set |" 686 828) 734 132 | 1659 | 1498 {ov3|logel ‘ora 201! Jae 2076 | Las7 | See S28 | $298 2201 (2652803) 264; 150; Headquarters. 3) 498, HG 55; 63) 63; Note No, |.—In First Assembly district the vote for Ab iW 193) 1 rns at Poles png.et © 24 T19| 754! 716) | dermen-at-Lurge comprises only thirteen of the tweaty three Klection districts, Note No, 2.-—Thirwenth Assembly district, the Twelfth Sixteenth and Twentieth Election districts not heard from, d Note No. Stn Fitteenth Assembly district the Twenty. seventh, Twenty-cighth and Twenty-ninth Llection a tricts not heard trom. . Note No. 4—In Twenty-first Assembly district the jeth and Thirty-niuth Election dis ALDERMEN. ey eae The following is the vote recorded for the Aldor men in each Senatorial district, with the number of votes polled in each Assembly district :— FOURTH SENATORIAL DISTRICT. Ass. Dis. ae Lysaght, barra O'Neil 5 2,735 2,383 939 1,019 2272 id 11354 4,253 1,30 ity 2,180 920 5k ‘Totals... 14,083 14,110 5,438 4,250 FIFTH SENATORIAL DISTRICT. Hogen- Morris, Deane, Gilon, Harney. Jones, camp. 1,879 2,780 3.174 324 239 061 64k ATT 3652 3,316 2516 192 St 4,660 2517 2416 33 OSH Totals.10,703 10,840 10,673 9,746 6v8 1,030 SIXTH SENATORIAL DISTRICT. Baa- South- Mc- Reilly, Strack. 8 2,780 1 2.653 Bt 2,506 1 1,483 Vorais..8,164 9,437 6,142 5,913 3,190 5,202 SEVENTH SENATORIAL DISTRICT, How- Evers Powers. Seery, i, Brucks, hard. 3 1,740 < 906 260 1,608 bos 2O6s 1,817 436 3,061 745 137 10,729 4,304 (2,286 RIGHTH SENATORIAL DISTRICT. Bal- Simon- Robin- dic- son, Carthy. Purdy, ing, 4,248 115 4,021 2,419 2,403 1,916 4,481 4,426 4,003 4,413 4,080 4,782 1,083 1,187 1,095 863 sas 88s 17,607 17,914 16,600 Totels.11,935 13,132 THE VOTE OF THE STATE. 12,300 Tilden’s Majority in the State Proba- bly 35,000. The following is the estimated vote for Governor in the varlous counties. Of course there are many towns whose votes nave not as yet been heard irom, and it 18 pretty certain that the majority will be much larger than it really seems at dress, along the avenues; but on election | present:— day not ope was to be found, I again, isi4-—— when the troubie began, asked for aid, ‘Ma). Etim. | bat the police for some time failed to put in an arr appearance. Hence tae fighting and the murder, Dix, |Tiden vroner Croker and his iriends the brotners Hickey T1101 ere had nothing whatever to do with the shoot. 11 trl ne ing, aud they are much to be commended et Sie for’ their action. Had it not been for them pees $'p00 O'Brien would have doubtless carried out his 5 bes} ans and would have polled for bimsel! about if rig 000 votes, while I should not have got one, 4,000) ae lor respectable people would have been afraid | bite 4 to go out of their Louses. O'Brien struck 4.000) 8 Croker first and was knocked down in turn, after 4,400) Ceo whic! 1 and 8,600) 2, be | Me = | brutal conduct of O’Brien, who tried to int 1 ooo 100 | ee | ‘Di gate the Police Lommissiva and depose the Vom- $200 oo. joners. TER FINANCIAL QUESTION. 4 rt] Taorning the conversation at tnis point, Mr. 7,850] 6,800 Hewitt, in anawer to several queries adureased to 26,274] $9,101 him, said:—I have no doubt but that the policy of 8,200) 330 mocratic party will be to estanlieh @ return 3,960! 8 nt, but the question cannot come | 6,000| 4,670 ble time, aud in iact 1 do uot 9,300) 9,608 will be acted on until after the her 3,758 | next Presidential election. It iaa matter that at 46,! 86,408 | present gives risa to a variety of opintons, and it 4,790] 8,900 | may resolve itself into a question of geograpnical 11,800] 10,¢ | position as the people io the East want one tuing 12,360! 10,: and the peopie io Wes! omething 6,200) 4,900 else. I do not think it will be @ ques- 6,140) 7,142 tion on_ which party lines will be strictly 8,660] 2,300 | drawn. I do think, however, that during the 6.600! 5,378 | next two years the peopie will have the matter 60 | 4,650) 5,380 | laid before them, discussed and explained by ex- | o; 1,666) 1,495 | perlenced and able men, as to bring about @ de- | 4,980) 5,086 cided expression of opinion as to what. will be {) 9,980) 10,400 the most desirable action to take.” || 2201] 3,082 GRANT DISPOSED OF. i 3/000! 2,600 In reference to General Grant’s chances Mr, | 10,800) — Hewitt said, “The victories we have scored 11,000] 4,420 ciearly dispuse of Grant ana any probanility of 200] 4,900 | lis seeking a toird term, and I ieel confident he 2,580) 2,300 will retire into rivate — lite, Who our 2,700) 3, candidate will be is Uncertain, but elther 2.300] 2,1 Hendricks or ex-Governor Seymour wonid be | 2,180) 2,660 | agoodman. The Jatter will be, 1 thiuk, the United 6,900} 7,400 | States Senator who will be elected by the Legisia- | 4,980) 3,000 sure in place of Keuben E. Fenton, tor we have | g 22982! 8.608 clearly @ working majority in the Assembly, as we $,860; 2,993 snall have also in tae next Congress.” 4,200! 3.800 i 8,390| 7,600 | 1,680° 1,700 CITY AND FEDERAL OFFICIALS. con bib a | 9,060} 10,400 ‘Tne few politicians who were to be seen at the | 3,000; 2,900 City Hall yesterday were ot the democratic party, | 24445; 1,898 | and it waa pardonable in them to be highly exnil- | | | arated with tne joys of victory. The canvass was | the only topic of conversation to the exclusion of | everything else. Very few republicans, if any, | ; Could be lound in the corridors. The smoke of the | | battle had not )et cleared away, consequently the vultures kept of, and will not assemble anti! the | exact result of the campaign, jar as the new | city fathers are concerned, is fully known. j Not even an estimate had been made yesterday as to the partisan appearance of the uew Board of | Aldermen elected. A!dorman Jonn J. Morris, who | | has been so generally popuar in the present i | Board, as we'l as the gemial Alderman Edward | | Ghon, Culonei of the gallant Fitty-flith regiment | N.GS&N.Y., have been returned from the Filth Sen- atorial district. Aiderman Rile;, 490 an cid and Teapected member oi the present Board, cumes back Wito his actions @8 an Alderman lodorsed by hie coustituents, Els colleague te Mr, Joseph P, Brack, the preset President of the Board of am Total Stace vote ior President in 1868, Total State vute jor Govurnor in 1872, Total State voce ior Pregident im 1872, Probable total vote ior Governor in 16) MN ELECT’an ——. — ALBANY COUNRT. iar oe + Slngerland —Re} 434%, Ww, Vosurg—Dem 2=1,8/0, RnEIRG—Dem 4—W. We Bramon—hepe ALLEGHANY COUNTE. Orrin ©, Stacey—Kep, Geo. Shorwood—Zep, 120. P. Vedder Rep 2 gonn Manty—Rep, 16, F, Beantsly—Deu “SO Bt Hussey Rap, 1—OUls D, Hinckley eon 2 Obed Bdson—Dem,” om ‘NG COUNTE. Jeremiah MeGuire—Dom. QONTINUED ON TENTH PAGR counts.