The New York Herald Newspaper, October 14, 1873, Page 5

DEMOCRATIC DIVISION. The Meeting of the Apollo and Tam- many Conference Committees. CAN THE BREACH BE BRIDGED? The Red Men Astonished and Awe Stricken by 4 Modest Proposition from the Apollos. WHAT THE OPPOSITION WANTS. Tho Quostion of the Sinoerity of Either Party, in Seeking a Fusion. The conference’ that was to have been held yes- terday forenoon between the Tammany Hall and Apollo Hall committees aid not amount to much, m view of the fact that while the Apollo Hall folks were empowered to treat with city and county ao 4 well as nominations for the Judi- siary, the Tammeny representatives were only bat ‘to offer and receive suggestions as to Judictary nominations, The Apollo men called the attention of the Tammanyites to this important Afference a8 to thelr respective powers and, as 4. matter, of course, refused to confer cxclusively pon the question of the Judicial candidates, Then ind there the meeting came toan end witn the ex- press understanding that the Tammany County Gon- rention would appoint @ Conference Committee to meet the Apollo Committee, and confer as to the sounty nominations to be made. Sure enough when the Convention'met, a8 wfll be seen by the fall reports’ of its proceedings elsewhere, a com- mittee of twenty-one, composed of a delegate Yom each Assembly district, was appointed to yonfer withthe Apollo Committee. Aiter the ad- ournment of the Convention this Tammany Com- mittee and: the Conference Committee, appointed by the Judiciary Oonvetition on Saturday last, met mthe rodms of the Committee on Organizanon, shere to await the coming: of the Apolio ‘Conter- mee Committee, which was duly notified of the meeting. by a sub-committee appointed for that purpose. -Buto the waiting, though doubtless \’ patient one, in a patriotic point of new, on the part oL the Tam- nany men was a very long one. It was ialf-past four o’clock when the Convention ad- ourned, and <he forty-two good and true Tam- Bany braves, specially detailed to make Apollo see hhings in their proper Nght, went immediately lown to the basement with their minds full of yatriotic thoughts as to the good they intended to sccomplish for the great mass of THE HONEST VOTERS OF THE CITY 4ND-COUNTY. the room was damp and dark and dtsmal; and ss the minutes wore on the patriota began to look ‘ue in the face from the cold, and finaily had to yutton their overcoats up to the chin to feel at all yomfortable. They were, however, determined to Fait for Apollo’s comibg, if it took ali night. At lalf-past five o'clock “there was no sign ef the oming of the expected visitors, and a few of the yatient waiters from the downto’ fopationt, Yous und’ went away. Bites vai ttee hove in sight at six o’clock, and a short le afterward the Apollo men came al Re pene, | Sam’ Courtney, Senator O’Brien and Bi ev walked by twos, and nei eaten fh them fooked very giave, Conv ney “wore o kmar Ty every mer aig ubled yet determined ain 43 though he felt that e had a dangerous task te periorm yet had made up tis mind not to finch “rom it, though all the Garvey rescoes in the Cov‘ycil Chamber of the old Wigwam were to tumb's down upon him and fig followers, wen while attempting act the peace- naker. Brien, however, on the contrary, was in 10 Woy serious. His ;pleasant face was radiant ‘4, smiles, aod. his. merry eyes twinkied good. Sumoredly as he passed along and greeted his yequaintances of the other side of the house, whom le met at every step, pasted up against the wall on vither side of the staircase like so many gaping jtatues. The other members of the committee, ike Courtney, appeared WEIGHED DOWN WITH HEAVY THOUGHTS, snd shambied along after their leaders. Like weak snd humble followers they were ready and willing joao the bidding of the great Apollo chieftain, whatever that might be. Joln, the inexhaustible {ohn, at whose touch the doors of Tammany fly a as if by magic, was the first Tammany man wm note the committee met, True to his jastincts, he met them, hat in hand, half way up the basement stairs. ‘The sight of him seemed to \trike Vourtney With special awe, and, bowing low, ae bade John toshow him and his the narrow way which leads to the secret hiding place of the Big Indians. John scanned the visitors closely, even suspiciously at fret, but finally reco; ing D’Brien, tall and stately, towering head and shoul- ders over them all, led the way to the basement nd opened the door of the room where the forty-two Tammanyites were assembled—ct feast a8 Many of them as had not got tired out waiting and had remained to the last, The visitors were received with all the honors, the Tammany men rising as they entered. Mr. Kelly advanced and shook hands witi Mr. Courtney, and an informal shake bands all round was then in- fulgedin. Mr. Courtney, finally remembering the object of his visit, informed the Tammanyites that sheir visitors were a Conference Committee ap- pointed by Apollo Hall, and that they had called apon them (the Tammunyites) with the view of pe to nominations for city and county pilices, ne! ulling out of his coat pocket a joolscap sheet of paper, he read tromit as follows :— “7HE BASIS OF UNION.” Aroto Hatt Counirran oF Conrennxcn, Oct. 13, 1873. Recognizing the demand of the democracy of the city snd State for the union of the Tammany and Apollo or- ganizations on county and judicial candidates at the ap- sroaching election, ‘and believing that, in order vo uc- somplish importatt claims of candidates subservient party, and tespective démocratic organizations should present as ndidates such names only as have the respect and con Kience'ot the people, we respectiully subinitas a basis of Anion that the candidates for the office of County Clerk wr Sheriff and one Justice of the supreme Court’ should de selected from such names as shall be presented by the Apollo Hail County and Judicial Convention, entirely latisfied that with the xeceptance of this condition the Aemocratic party can be united and triumphant. SAMUKL.G. OOURTN Chairman Apollo Hail Committee of Cont Jauns G. BRINKMAN, Secretary. Aiter reading this document Mr. Courtney quietly folded it up and put it back Into his pocket, Mt the same time gazing about him in a half cynical way ag though he felt like asking the Tammany men: “Now how do you like that for a beginning?’ fo say that the Tammany men looked rather sur- prised would be to tell but bali the story, A SCARE AMONG THE BRAVES. They looked dumiounded, and tor a minute or Bo each one gazed ing piringly at the other aa thongh each wanted the other to say something and yet didn’t exactly know what. Mr, Keily was tne first one to regain his self-possession. Putting on his Bweetest smile, he said, soothingly, ‘Gentlemen, this proposition of ‘qc needs consideration, and this Somes will meet you to-morrow morning t ten o'clock, when it Will doubtless be ready result, ‘that ail per- for office should be the interests of the demo that the representatives ot the 100, give definite answer as to the subject male jst miade known {0 us.” Mr. Courtney at this bowed profoundly, and Femarked tia, the Apollo Committee would be happy to meet their friends, the Tammany men, at the hour mentioned, and then he and his went as they came—in a body, id went rejoicing, too. The Tammany Committee once adjourned and also went out into the street and dispersed, each momber be deta 80 ab- sorbed in his own thoughts as to the probable con- mere of Apollo’s demands as to be totally anit for further consultation with his fellows, THE APPOLLOITES FEEL GOOD. Meanwhile the Apollo men were met at Irving Hall bya large number of their iriends, who tn- quired anxiously as to the resuit of their meetin With the Tammany people, and, ‘on tafe ad tha’ Apollo's “basis of union” had scared the Big In- Giang. everybody seemed to get into the joliiest spirits. Indeed, the Reheral impression at Irving I appeared to be that Tammany had been hoist her own petard, as she had been the tirst to send committee to Apollo, saying she was willing conier wita woutsiders,”” and as as a8 “basis of granted, would knock Tammany’s a Manes Sheela) ot ual ere was quite a oliticians when the two committees Apollo’s modest request was ve y thoroughly canvassed. One ofits first effects was to produce considerable tll feeling between the re- otive friends of the prominedk Tammany candl- ates for Sheriff and County Clerk. The /ormer contended that the County Clerkship was the office to give Apollo, while the latter as vehemently pro- tested against anything of the kina, and contended that the Shrievalty was just the kind of A TUB TO THROW TO THE OPPOSITION WHALR. There also seemed to be a great deal of difference of opinion on all sides as to what Apollo meant by asking specially for either the County Clorkstip or the Shrievaity, and ona judge of the Supreme Court, ‘What was to be done with the other offices? Even tome of the Tammany committee men themselves were under the impression that, by asking spectally for those offices Apollo implied that mmany fonid do as she pleased with the balance of the ticket—that 1s, that she could nominate own men for the Superior and Marine courts and Coroners. But if Tammany men are of this mind sooner they get rid yf Aelusion the be tera to Apoilo’s first demand anion,” if slate all to smithereens, Tammany Hall and irving concourse of separated, an NEW YORK HERALD, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 14, 1873—QUADKUPLE SHEET, Jor Apolo aoes nut by BBY Means invena w give Up all say as to ~ _-‘9HE BALANCE OF THR TICKET, simply because it has made particular mention of certain offices it desires to have her own candi- dates éntered for. In a conversation with one of the Apollo leaders last night a HERALD reporter obtained proo: positive of this fact, He learned that special mention of the oficials already referred to was made by Apes evply a8 a basis for future action only, thus leaving the Cgory as to how candidates should be nominated if the other offices still are open questions, A good idea of the con- fidence Tammany has in the good faith of Apollo and the confidence Apollo has in the good faith of Tammany in thia matter of joining forces to deieat the common enemy may be learned from the an- swer made to a question of a HERALD reporter yes- terday by Mr. Kelly. The latter said, “I don’t think that Apollo really at heart meang to do anything in favor of union,” In reply to a similar question as to what the prospects of a union of forces were, put to Mr. O’Brien by the same reporter, the reply was given:—Tammany has got into deep water. She only put out the conierence offer as a feeler. She dvesn’t intend to unite.” “When doctors disagree who shall decide?” TAMMANY COUNTY CONVENTION. —— Laying Out the Plans for the County Ticket— Selectng the Standard Bearers—The Bhrievalty, County Clerkship, Coro- nerships end Vacant Aldermanié Seate-A Close Race, The fighting “braves of the tribe of Tammany assembled in council yesterday afternoon, in the great wigwam, to select standard bearers for the fall campaign for civic spoils. The County Conven- tion of 518 delegates bled at three o’clock to make nominations for Bheriff, County Clerk, three Coroners and an‘Alderman, to fill the seat formerly occupied by the late Peter Gilsey. For an hour before the time of meeting the steps of Tammany Hail and the sidewalks in the vicinity were swarm- ing with politicians, nearly one-half of whom were delegates. Prominently noticeable among them were Judges Hogan and Shandiey, John Kelly, Sherif Brennap,, Coroner Young, Richard B, Croker, Edwin, H, Meade, General Martin T. McMahon, John Morrissey, Judge Fowier, Judge Ledwith, Aldermen Flanagan, Réilly and other gentlemen identified both with the buried and the regenerated Tammany. It waa useless to ask anybody what the drift of the Convention would be. All ‘were anxious and none knew enough to trust themsclyes to the expression of an opinion. The Convention was called to order by Jonn KE.Ly, who explatned the action taken by the Tam- many Judicial Convention with a view to a coali- tion “with what is known as the Apollo Hall or- ganization of the democracy,” and said that in pursuance of that action it would become the duty of this Convention to appoint that committee of conference as well as to make the nominations for which they had assembled. He concluded py pro- posing Abram 8. Hewitt for chairman of this Convention, which proposition was adopted with- out dissent. Mr. Hewnrr, in assuming the duties of chairman, thanked the Convention for the honor shown him by the selection, and said THERE NEVER WAS A TIME when it was 80 Necessary to the welfare of the city, of the State and of the nation that democratic principles should be enforce’, 224 that democratic partyshould be imbued with new life and new’ vigor, to enable it to assume its true position and control the whole country, The general tendency shown by the national government to absorp the powers and fwictong of the States, thé same spirit évineed by the ‘States towards the municipalities, anzeven by the Supreme Court of the United States in the arrogation fo themselves of powers never conferred and never intended to be con‘erred upon them, made it absolutely necessary that real democratic supremacy should be again re- established, Tammany had, in its history, enjoyed a@ large share of the pubife contidence an Supper and its resolutions and platforms of principles ly been approved of by all good men. But it was one thing to adopt good resolutions and principles, and another ‘thing to carry them out laithfully and honestiy. ‘The seusy are of TAMMANY'S HISTORY prior to the last two: ycars had not been such as the people could either endorse or respect. It would be useless to ask public support now, unless they put before the people honest ana true men for candidates, for reputable men would not consort with democrats, lf they have known them even as democrats from their boyhood, if democrats did prove themselves worthy of the name, Peter B. Olney and Alfred T. Ackert were then nominated and accepted as secretaries of the Con- vention. On motion, it was resolved that the roll of dele- gates be called in the order of districts, as their credentials were handed in, When the Nineteenth Assembly district was called their credentials were handed in, and a pro- test ibe offered by Thomas O'Callaghan, as chair- man o A CONTESTING DELEGATION. Captain WiLey objected to the reception of the protest, but was cut off under the rule, the Con- vention not being yet organized, and debate, mo- tion or resolution being alike out of order, Roli call being concluded, W. H. QUINCY moved that in districts where va- cacies exist in the delegations the delegation be itself authorized to fill such vacancies. Carried. Justice FOWLER moved that a committee on con- tested seats be constituted by the appointment of one delegate from each district, except the Nine- teenth, the delegates to such committee to be ap- pointed by the delegations, Carried. Justice QUINN moved that if the contesting dele- gations (irom the Nineteenth district) can agree upon a delegate, such joint delegate be permitted to enter the conference committee when said aane mittee shall be appointed, Carried. ig Mr. Quincy then moved that the roll of Assenibly. districts be called and that each deicgation an- nounce the name of its delegate to the Committee on Conference. Carried. The following nominations for members of THE CONFERENCE COMMITTER were then made in successive order :— ny yh Ki loseph Koch. 13—Richard Flanagan, 14—John Reilly. 15—T. A. Ledwith. 16—J. G, McGowan, 17—Thomas Ryan, 18—John Kelly, 19— = 20—Wm. H. Quiney. 2i—Hugh U. Moore. 2M. J. Keese. $—James Hayes. 4—E, J. Shandiey. 5—Ed. M, Plum. 6—T. J, Gampbell. &-Ed, b. Gale. 9—James Fitzpatrick, 19—Owen Murphy. 11—John Morrissey. The Nineteenth district delegations were unable to agree upon a joint caydidate, and are, there- fore, both unrepresented, Justice FOWLER moved that when this Convention adjourn it adjourn until Wednesday next at one o'clock P. M. Carried. Mr. QuINcY moved that the Convention proceed to nominate candidates for Sheriff, County Clerk, three Coroners and one Alderman, and that each delegate, as well as each delegation where the del- egation was not “solid,” be allowed to name his choice, all the nominations to be subjected to the Committee on Conference, subject to the final ac- tion of this Convention. Carried. A motion for a recess of ten minutes was then put and lost. The delegations in their order then made the fol- lowing nominations for roe COUNTY OFFICERS. Dist, For § , For Count ‘ 1—John Fox... -Anthony Eick! on 2—W. GC. Conner. Ww 8—W, 0. Gunner. 4—Beérnard Reilly | Shine 6—John Fox. Ton, Wb. Conner... Wm, Walsh Fox, Reilly, Con: " on, 8—John Conner, Etekhof, W. 0. Wot ‘alsh, Jeremiah, A, Eickhoff, 2cW. Walsh, 20. Gs Conner, “W, Walsh. miner, <Walsh, Ei} a AW, COoRner Tenn HOR og kbOm Gamble: Gumble- . Reilly. » Walsh, Eickhoff, 18=W. C, Conner, ‘Ox, 4 Reiity, Joo! 0.Stevens...Walsh, Eickhof, Gumble. I8-(Not admitted) «(Not adinitted,) cW. Waish. onner, J. Fox For Alderman, Conner, J. Fo! For Coroners. Woltinan, N. Young, Richard Croke 2—Richard Uroke 8—T, F. Bourke ‘aurice J. Powers, 4—Woitman, Croker, Lamb, Bourke ‘Thomas Shiels, 5—N, W. Young, T. Ed. Gilon. 6—Wo'tman, Croke hicis. 7—J, W. Green, Young, Croker, Lamb. 8—Woltman, Croker, Lam! C r, Young, man, LAMDs..eeeee es 10— 11—Woltman, Young, Lamb. fee Vrolruas. Gillon, Plankitt, J, Of GW. Fiunkite’ aunt » Gilon, -Gilon, Powers, Plunkitt. ‘owers. Powers, . W. Plungitt, Lamb. ke Young, Lamb, 19—-(Nou ndiniite ix, in 5 Lai oh GK. roker, mn WN Herrmai a i MoGnire, [The nominations marked with an * are all individual choices expressed by members of delegations, and not by the delegation “solid.") At sho clove of the pominAtons the Conventign “evot admitted, journea until Wednesaay, wnen tne Coalition mference Committee wiil report and the final selection of candidates will pe made. An analysis of the above table of nominations shows the race for Sheriif to be wholly between Conner, Fox and Reilly, with the preponderance in favor of Conner. Conner received the solid nomi- nation of five district delegations, with first choice of five others, and was mentioned by eleven delegations, Fox two “solid” dele- Eations, is first choice of five others and mentioned by ten. Reilly received three full delegation choices, is firat choice of five and is mentioned by nine. Walsh appears to be “away out of sight” ahead of all other candidates for County Clérk, Croker, Woltman and Young aro the choice for coroners, and will uudoubtedly re- ceive the nominations definitely, unless one of them should be asked to give way for an Apollo Hall candidate on the coalition compromise. Powers and Plunkitt appear to have the pull be- tween them for the Aldermanship, with the advan- tages and enthusiasm all in favor of Powers, Gilon threatens them, however, with @ close run; but itis not at all improbable that this nomination also A be given Lo Apollo Hall if reconciliation is effected, THE GERMAN REFORMERS, Preparing for Business—Arrangements for a Joint Nominating Convention, The Central Committee of the German Reform organizations, which originated during the reform campaign two years ago, held a special meeting at the Teutonia Assembly Rooms last night: In the absence of Henry Ciausen, who lately has re- turned from Europe, Oscar Zollikoffer, the Vice President, occupied the chair. The Executive Committee, through Marcus Otterbourg, presented & report, proposing that the Sup, candidates be presented and recommenéed to the different nominating convontions:—Dr. Louis Schultze and Gershon N. Hermann for Coroners; A. M. Pet- shaw for Justice of the Marie Court, whose name js to be presented to the Bar Association, and Wil- liam Radde for County Cierk; also that conference committees had been formed in each case to take further action. Aiter some discussion the report was received aud the action of the committee ap- proved. The delegates of the German reformers and of the Oduncil of Political Rejorm, recently appointed fur that purpose, are to assemble at room 24, Cooper Institute, this evening, to organize nis Nominating convention for the nomination of the different candidates to be voted for in the next election. DEMOCRATIO UNION GENERAL COMMITTEE. At a meeting of the Democratic Union General Committee, held last evening at Masonic Hall, Thirteenth street, Smith Ely, Jr., presiding, Mr. Thomas ©. Camptell reported that the Committee on Nominations had conferred with a similar com- mittee from Tammany Hall, and demanded that the nomination of one Judge of the Superior Court and one Judge of the Marine should be given to the Democratic Union organization. The Executive Committee was then instructed to prepare a call ior the conyeution jor primary elections, and, after an address of Mr. Theodore T. Tomlinson, the meet- ing adjourned. BROOKLYN POLITICS, Democratic and Kepublican Jadiciary Conventions—Jaspexr W. Gilbert and ‘hn Winslow tho Respective Nomi- nees. Yesterday afternoon the delegates to the Demo- cratic Judiciary Convention met in the Court House for the purpose of nominating a Judge of the Su- preme Court, for the term of fourtéen years, in Place of his Honor Justice Jasper W, Gilbert, whose term of office expires January 1, 1874. The district embraces Kings, Queens, Suffolk, Richmond, West- chester, Rockland, Dutchess, Orange and Putnam counties. General James B. Craig was chosen per- manent Chairman ana John R. Donohue, Secretary. Roscoe A. Degraw, of Quecns county, moved ghat Jasper W.” Gilbert be nominated by acclamation, Mr, H. D, Birdsall, upon secona- ing thé nomination, sald that it gave him great pleasure to second the nomination of Judge Gil- bert for the office of Justice of the Supreme Court of the Second Judicial district. He delieved that the gentlemap named mot all the requirements of the high’ position for which hé was famed. The nomination was then made by acclamation. Judge Gilbert has been @ resident of Brooklyn for the past thirty years, and before hia election he prac- tised at the bar, | THE REPUBLICAN JUDICIARY CONVENTION also met at the County Court House yesterday afternoon, and E. B, Hinsdale was chosen per- manent Chairman, Messrs. A. J. Miller and Judge Taylor were appointed Secre- taries, General Crooke nominated Richardson Ingraham for Judge of the Supreme Court, and in 8o doing said that for the first time in fifteen years an appearance was presented which seemed to promise @ republican majority. For years Kings county had been looked upon as gure to givea democratic majority of 10,000; but it was well known that result had been brought about by fraud and false counting, and to-day it was a de- batable county. If a good man were nominated it would be possible to send him off Long Island With & many of 5,000, W. M. Mullen was of the opinion that party questions should not be brought under the consid- eration of the Convention, and he, thereiore, pio- posed the name of Jasper W. Gilbert as one who had already filled the position with honesty and Prec and to the satisfaction of every one in the istrict. Mr. Hall, of Westchester, seconded the remarks of Mr. Mullen, William Coit nominated John Winslow, who was lormerly District Attorney of Kings county, Mr. J. Van Cott seconded the nomination, urging that the district was undoubtedly republican, as he had figures to show, On the formal ballot being taken the vote stood as follows:—Winslow, 24; Gilbert, 6; ingraham, 14. On motion of Mr. Brab- ley the nomination of Mr. Winslow was made unanimous, DEMOORATIO PRIMARIES, The democratic primary elections were held in the wards and county towns last evening, for the purpose of electing delegates to the city, county, Senatorial and Assembiy conventions, rhe vote was not large, but there was considerable excite- menv about some of the polling places, caused by the struggle of rival ward factions for ascendancy. The conventions, excepting the Assembly, will be held on Wednesday next. The demo- cratic managers were “at their wits’ end” as to who would really be the safest man to nominate for Mayor. They incline, as @ matter of expediency, toward Ripley Ropes, the republican Alderman of the Third ward, but the hard-fisted workers object to taking up any man, no matter how popular he may be, irom the republican party. lence the juandary in which the leaders find themselves as the hour of Convention draws nigh, The National Democrats in Brooklyn. The National Democratic General Committee met last night at their rooms, on Court street. The Conference Committee reported that they had con- ferred with a similar committee from the People’s Reform Association, and they had agreed to har- monize with them, A resolution com neeeing the nomination of Harvey Farrington, John W. Hun- ter, William Marshall or Samuel 8, Odell for Mayor was adopted. Action of the Reform Committee of One Hundred, The Reform Committee of One Hundred met last night at the Brooklyn Academy of Music, A com- mittee of seven was appointed to report at the next meeting the names of the candidates whom it would be proper for them to endorse, Mr. Farrington offered a resolution that here- after their meetmgs be pubilc, ras lost, Reform Committee of Fifty. The Reform Committee of Fifty met last night at their rooms, corner of Jay and Fulton streets, and elected permanent officers for the ensuing year. Coionel Julian Allen was chosen as chairman, A resolution, endorsing the nomination of John Windsiow for Justice of the Supreme Court was adopted, A resolution condemning the nomina- tion of Mr. John C. Perry was also adopted. A dele- gation from the National Democrats requested them to delay their nominations until next Thurs day. RICHMOND OQOUNTY REPUBLICAN NOMINA- TIONS, The resolution The Richmond County Republican Convention met yesterday at Schwartzkof"'s Assembly Rooms, at Clifton, Staten Isiand. The stréets in the neigh- borhood were crowded with politicians from all parts of the county, ° Democrats were also present, anxions to learn who would be their opponents in the coming con- test. The Convention was called to order at three o'clock by the President, Mr. Tompkins Wesvervelt, after which the usual wrangling over credenttals and substitutes occurred and lasted over half an hour, when the Convention wentinto nominations, The voting was entirely by ballot, and resulted in the nomination of the ‘following gentlemen :—For Member of Assembly, Abraham J, Wood; Sherif, Wm, P. Alston; County Treasurer, Hugh McRob- erts; Superintendents of Poor, N, Heal and BE. Kappes; Coroner, Jacob H. Winnegar. QUEENS COUNTY POLITIOS, Among the most prominent candidates for the oMice of Sherif of Queens county is Charles Sam- mis, of one of the oldest agricultural families of Long Isiand. Mr, Sammis is a democrat ana, Mel urged by the “Grangers,” his election is regarde 8 prolly Corba bs ANDREW JOHNSON Tho Ex-President at the Capital with Rods in Pickle. HIS SPECIAL DEPOSIT LOST. A Statement Concerning That and the Sur- ratt Affair in Preparation. THE FINANCIAL SITUATION. Mr, Johnson on the Subject of « Specie Payment. A MEANING SUGGESTION, WAsnmaton, Oct. 13, 1878. Ex-President Andrew Johnson arrived in this city this morning from Tennessee, and took up his quarters at the Metropolitan. The fact that he had recently been a loser of a large amount by the failure-of the First National Bank, and that it had been paragraphed through the papers that he was coming here to prepare a statement in regard to the execution of Mrs. Surratt, gave an additional in- terest to his visit. An interview was therefore sought with him by your correspondent this morn- ing. Mr. Johnson was in his parlor with his son, Andrew, Jr. and a visitor, who withdrew shortly after my entrance. Mr. Johnsou's ap- pearance could be compared with that of his Presideptiat days as he parted with nis friend. He was dressed in his usual suit of black broadcloth, and in general appear- ance was but little changed, except that his form seemed not so bulky as it was a year or two ago, His face was a shade paler, and, if possible to de- tect them, I might say it wore a few more lines; but withal he seemed cheerful, and was never more courteous. Aiter being seated I asked him THE PURPOSE OF HIS VISIT. “Mr. Johnson, we have heard it intimated—in fact it has been paragraphed through the papers— that your visit here was made with a twofold ob- ject; that of setting aright whatever wrong im- pressions may have been gained of your position in the case of Mrs, Surratt by Judge Holt’s letter, and also of attending to your business in connec- tion with the suspension of the First National Bank.” Mr. JouNnsoN—Yes, gir. Icame here on various Matters of business ; these among the rest. I have many that call me to Washington frequently. As to this Surratt matter, I desire to say nothing at present, as the necessary arrangements have not 4s yet been made for its proper and truthful publi- cation. It will be ready in a few days, and at the proper time I shall be heard irom. CORRESPONDENT—Is it true, sir, that you lost $73,000 by the failure of the First National Bank? Mr. Jounson—Yes, sir; avout that eum. I had‘it theme ae tease sie io A BPECIAL DEPOSIT. There was no speculation about it, for the inter- est on it was very small. CORRESPONDENT—Do you expect to realize any- thing from it? Mr. JoHNsSON—I do not know, but appearances fre none‘of the best, CORRESPONDENT—They say that President Grant got all of his money? Mr. JouNson—Yes, and I believe he did; but I will not say anything about this subject, for about thia.as wellas the case of Mrs. SurrattI intend to fay nothin until the proper time comes, CoRRESPONDENT—What did you think of this crash, Mr. Johnson, when it came? Did it strike you with surprise? Mr. JoHNSON—NO, not at all. I knew long since that it was inevitable on account of the undue ex- pansion of the financial business of the country. It is true that I was surprised when the Cookes were the first to fail, But when I came to think of tt I wondered no longer. They dabbled in politics too much to be good financial managers. Their banks were too large and handled too much money to ad- mit of their managers being diverted towards any- thing else, They were keen, judicious and reliable Oinancial men, and should have known better than to have been mixed up with schemes that de- pended upon political engineering. As a rule POLITICS AND FINANCES DO NOT RUN WELL TO- GETHER, CORRESPONDENT—Do you think, Mr. Johnson that the crash was due to the national financia} Policy, or to the over-speculative spirit of the financial circles of the country? Mr. JoHNSON—Both, AsI said before, there has been too great an expansion of the Mnancial busi- ness of the country as compared with even the large amount of currency in circulation, and busi, ness conducted upon imaginary bases must sooner or later collapse, As to our national system, it was not intended for all time, but only to meet the emergencies of the past; and the sooner it can be changed, I think, the better. We have now, I believe, $460,000,000 in currency in circulation, and the greatest amount ever in circulation belore the war was $210,000,000. During the war, when the circulation was nearly $800,000,000, we were astounded; we knew the country could not stand it even in such pressing emergencies, and contraction with @ view to as speedy A RESUMPTION OF SPECIE PAYMENTS as possible was the rule adopted. Our national bank currency is secured by government bonds, and itis this alone that has saved them from total and utter ruin in the late crisis. But even this does not argue in favor of the national banking system as superior to any other. One class, the note-holders, are safe, while the stockholders and depositors must lose in such an event as has just transpired. The system is the same as the old State bank systems of Tennessee and New York. They proved failures, and why should not this also? The only advantage it has is that national bank notes are good throughout the length and breadth of the land, and, as a con- sequence, rates of exchange between all parts of the country and the great commercial centres are comparatively low. lt has been urged on this ac- count by the friends of this scheme that it makes national bank currency uniform in value. I claim thot it {8 only uniform in depreciation. Its only dependence is the bonds of the government, which dependence, however stable, just now is AS FIOKLE AS THE WINDS, In old times a depreciation of four or five per cent on State securities was considered as a gloumy foreboding for the respective State banks, anda depreciation of ten per cent wiped them oif the face of creation. Now it is just the same, Let government securities depreciate a few per cent, and you will see how gold will rise, or, rather, how paper will go down, I tell you, sir, we are finan- cially upon rather a shaky basis. The value of by universal custom and consent to be 4 Currency is governed by laws of change and of rise and fali as inevitable as the laws which govern the rise and fatl of the tides, CORRESPONDENT—Then it appears, Mr. Johnson, that you are in favor of the resumption of specie | Pete How would an immediate resumption affect us’ Mr. Jounson—And why not? We all acknowledge that it must come sooner or later, aud why not begin at once? Gold and silver have become of late the acknowledged bases of valuation through- out the Known world. With Christian, Pagan, heathen or infidel it is the selfsame gold and silver. Teannot explain why this is, and can only conctude that it is @ law of nature, and that THE TERM “VALUE,” IN ITS STRICTEST CONSTRUCTION, has become to mean “goid and silver.’’ Put it in coin, put it in jewelry, or put itin i nM its value is the same. tis unchangeable. Now, the ques- has been asked, how can we resume specte payient ? We have not gold enough. From 1349 Up to is62, according to official statements, we had gathered from our gold fields and passed through our mints in coin over $800,000,000—an. amouut greater than that ever issued in currency during the darkest periods of our war. Now, where has all this gold gone to? it is mostly hid- den in the dark places of the country; and that which goes out of it in trade will surely come back Now, take the financial atits counter a ten dolar legal render and ask gold for it They will give you gold, minus the meaning And yet this currency ts called “legal tender.” It is reissued, or paid out, as a legal tender at par, In old times such a transaction on the part of an in- dividual would have been accounted as disreputa- ble, to say the least of it, It certainly seems to me that it would be to the interest of our govern- ment to pluee tts notes upon A PAR VALUE WITH GOL! and there would be no more speedy mode of doi this than by the prompt resumption of specie pay- ment, for this would bring the gold out from tts hidden places, and give to us the currency which the world has adopted—the currency of gold and silver, It is @ sad commentary upon our financial system that itisa fact thata five dollar gold piece, with the constitutional stamp and coat of arms of America upon it, would be @ curiosity to most of our American young people. If a man were to go through the country now with his pocket full of five dollar gold pieces, as he used to go through our streets, the people would look at him with wonder and then begin to doubt that the coin he had with him was genuine. Why, then, make the people think that there is no coin in tue country. and that all they have to depend on in the way of money is these dirty, greasy, stinking shinplasters? There is a plenty of coin in the country andthe government can bring it out. Why is it that California financial centres were not affected by this crash? Because their affairs are all conducted on a gold basis, and the only government paper they deal in in legitimate business transactions are certificates based upon actual gold coin in the Treasury. What are your “legal teuders” worth out there? They are bought and sold by the brokers mostly for the accommodation of travellers across our great con- tinent; for there is not much profit in the business. FINANCIALLY SPEAKING, for those people of the Eastern States, asthe people of England—for ‘legal tender” is worth as much in England as in San Francisco, the great city of the western coast of America—to boast of pros- perity in the midst of the late crash, is sophistry on the part of the administration, It is true our exports may exceed our imports, but what advant- age 18 this to us as long as there is not a solid as weil a8 @ uniform valuation for our exports and imports in this country as well as in the countries with which we trade? With them the valuation, being in silver and gold, is immutable; whilg with us there is this everlasting discounting of the “legal tender.” CORRESPONDENT—What do you think of the policy of our government in the purchase of its bonds tn the late crisia ? Mr. Jounson—It is & bad precedent for our gov- ernment to have set. The issue of the currency gave relle/, it is true, but 1t was principally to the speculators of Wallstreet. The government has no business to go into the market as though it was a mammoth banking house, By such action {t identifies itself with Wail street, and encourages the extravagances and gambling speculations of that quarter, THE SURRATT AFFAIR—A SUGGESTION, After further remarks on the part of Mr. Johnson on other subjects I ventured ro ask; ‘Mr. Jobnson. itis said that the letters in regard to tho Svurratt affair were written with a view to injure you in your political prospects in Tennessee. Have you any opinion on this subject ?”? Mr. JonNSON—I do not wish, sir, to express my opinion on this sabject. Ihave a suggestion, how- ever, which you may use as you Re ‘eople often have a very good opinion of their qualitica- tions for a certain position to which they aspire, but a3 their merits have not struck the public so forcibly they feel compelled to seek some some other way of bringing themselves into notoriety. A boy wishes to play at pins, but how can he doso without battery or ball alley to strike his ball against, or he May wish to fly his kite, but ne cannot do 30 Without raising a current of wind from whatever direction he may. 1 heard that a certain ex- official connected with the Surratt matter was an aspirant for the Supreme Bench. Following upon this was @ published lecter from a Mississippi cor- respondent, who | learn is cither an aspirant or an ep pciniee for the South American Mission, Foote, ‘This letter, strange to say was iollowed by’ that of the judicial aspirant, I know notni about peopie’s motives. I have made my suggestion; Make your own inferences. I will as far ag m: part in the history of this country is concerned always vindicate the truth of my country’s history, and at. the proper time I will give to the public all that I know about this matter, Thanking Mr. Johnson for his courtesy I bade him good morning. THE LATE CHIEF JUSfICF. Action of the Supreme Court Bar—Ealo- gistic Remarks of Reverdy Johnson and Philip Phillips. WASHINGTON, Oct, 13, 1873, Tne Supreme Court of the United States met to- day at noon. All were present except Associate Justices Fields and Davis, the former being in Call- fornia and the latter on his way to Washington. Associate Justice Clifford presided. He said no business would be transacted to-day as the Court would now adjourn to pay their usual annual visit of courtesy to the President of the United States, The hour of meeting would hereatter be at twelve instead of eleven o’ciock. The twenty-sixth rule, providing for the calling of ten cases a day, would be in force on all days except Friday. The Court then adjourned. There were present in the chamber Attorney General Williams, Reverdy Jonnson, General But ler, Senator Bayard, Messrs. Caritsle, Casey, Phil- lips, Otto, Pike, Ashton, Davidge, Durant, Bradley, Pascal, Merrick and many other distinguished members of the Bar. It was heretofore announced that a meeting would be held to-day to take action concerning the death of Chief Justice Chase. On motion of Mr. Carlisle Mr. Reverdy Johnson resided as Chairman and D. W. Middleton, the Jierk of the Court, acted as Secretary. Mr, Johnson, in the course ef his address on taking the chair, said the death of an eminent judge of even a State Court is always a great calamity, but the death of a Olilef Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States was a still greater calamity, because of the greater extent of jurisdiction and the greater importance of ques- tions to be decided. He felt sure he could assert with perfect truth that more Ste pire and upright justices than those which adorned this Court were not to be found in any other country of the world; and as to the late Chief Justice he was, in all respects, equal to his predecessors. When the appointment was made, though he had a high appreciation of his talents and ability as a legisiator and oilicer of the government, and was satisfied that Mr. Chase was a truly, great man, he had his doudts concerning his capacity for the distinguished judicial position, but in this he mis- took, for his decisions involving so many delicate and important questions growing out of our d civil strife from the very first commanded the 4j proval of the profession’and of the country. He would forbear to even conjecture who was guc- ceed to the Chief Justiceship. He —be- lieved, however, and he felt perectly satisfied, from his judgment of the appointing and confirm- ing power that whoever shall be the successor will be found equal to the task. In conclusion Mr. Johnson said some consolation was to be found im the fact that as a father the late Chief Justice was tender, as a friend steadiast, as a man he stood to the last, high in the confidence of his countrymen, and he died as he lived—a Christian, Mr. Philip Phillips said he was satisfied thatthe members Oi the Bar had listened with profound re- spect to the remarks of the Chairman, and as these no doubt found a response in every listener, he thought it unnecessary to offer any remarks,’ but would move tie appointment of acommittee to Papers such action as Was necessary to be taken. ‘he committee was accordingly appointed. After an interval of a few minutes Mr. Merrick reported @ series of resolutions eulogistic of the character of the deceased and tendering to his family the sincere sympathy of the meeting in their loss; and, further, that the Attorney General of the United States be requested to move in the Supreme Court that the resolutions be entered in the minutes; and, asa turther mark of respect, that the members of the Bar will wear the usual badge of mourning for thirty days. The resolutions were agreed to, and the meeting adjourned, A ROW IN CONVEYTION. The Democratic-Liber: sultation—A Victory County. shitty PouGHKEEPSIE£, N. Y., Oct. 18, 1873, The Democratic and Liberal Senatorial Conven- tion met here this afternoon. For four hours scenes of the wildest disorder and confusion oc- curred, caused by resolution introduced to compel each delegate to rise and name his candi- date. Dutchess backed James Mackin, and Columbia connty backed Benjamin Ray. The chajrmay. was General Mandeville, of Columbia county, Recésses and adjournments occurred, but no compromise was effected. There were a dozen on the floor at once all the time; men with their ats on, and all smoking cigars, and even the chairman was smoking. There were yells, shouts and contusion generally, which completely blocked all business. Finally Columbia county succeeded in js in Noisy Con= for Columbia passing their resolution, when yy received 21 votes Mackin 10 aud MY. Tiden 3 Ray was declared duly nominated, Other District Nominations, Augustus Denniston was yesterday nominated for the Assembly by the republicans of the first district of Orange county. The Liberal Democratic Convention of the Second district, Dutchess county, yesterday nominated Benjamin Broas for Assembly. The Democratic Assembly Convention of the First district at Kingston yesterday in regular convention nominated Peter Gili, of Loe greed Michael hg tee ae also nominated from Saugerties for the Assembly. “Tue democrats of the Orange and Baillvan Ye tetok yesterday, nominated Dr. Frank Apvott, 0! Port Jervis, to the State Senate. member of the democratic nomi- the last Assembiy, receive Roslin OL our ROVeIP Ment to-day, Go pnd oreseni Frank Abbott, liberal republican, Bation Jor Senator at Middletown yesterday, 5 “MOLY ALLIANCE OF PATRIOTS," The Red and Blue Party, or the Nice Little Compound of Prince Napo- leon and M. Portalis. Combine Against the Com. mon Enemy. CHAMEORD SPEAKS AGAIN. The manifesto of Prince Napoleon, published in the Avenir Nationa, in response to a three-colama letter of M. Portalis, the editor-in-chief of that radical republican journal, has caused @ profound sensation in France, The newspapers of Paris are full of adverse comment, and the fleree Bonapartista of the Paul de Cassagnac stamp utterly repudiate the pretensions of the Prince, while La Frangaise, the organ of Gambetta, contemplates the fusion in no sweet-tempered mood. The follow ing is the text of the Prince’s letter:— PARis, Sept, 26, 1873, To THE EDITORS OF THE AVENIR NATIONAL:— GENTLEMEN—The unstudied candor of your letter compels me to make a brief response. It is dic- tated by the opinions I have heid during my whole life, In face of the gravity and publicity of your letter I should not keep silence. The duty of every citizen in the grave hour in which we find our- selves ig not to leave the citadel in peril, as did the neutrals of antiquity, 1 am not a neutral, and I will not desert the struggle. I can only speak for myself; but how can one be- lieve that those whose hearts vibrate at the men- tion of the name “Napoleon” can disapprove my action? The alliance of popular democracy and the Napoleons has been the end which I have pursued in all the acts of my political life. Let us support our standard in face of the menaces of the drapeau blanc, a stranger to our modern France, and which the Pretender will only abandon by a compromise and & sacrifice made to the dexterous leaders of his party; otherwise, what would be the value of this concession at the eleventh hour? ‘The reign of the Bourbons would only become @ reactionary policy, clerical and unpopular, The flag of the Revolution has sheltered alone, during nearly @ century, the genius, the glory and the sorrows of France, and it is this fag which should guide us toward a tuture truly democratic. Among all the defenders of the sovereignty of the people a great many differ aa to how the prin- ciple should be mniileds but an entente common at this moment on this same principle of sovereignty is necessary and patriotic. All of us, citizens of modern society, should seck to establish, by uni- versal suffrage, the true liberty based upon the reforms which are the conditions of the weil being of France. Yes! it is necessary to forget the dis sensions, attacks, struggles, reciprocal snfferings, the insults. Even to affirm the ciple of the national sovereignty, boyond which are only dan- gers, discord and fresh disasters. Let us be united, and thwart baleful attempts, and thus form the Holy Alliance ot Patriots. NAPOLEON (Jerome). This manifesto, published In the Aventr Nationat, 80 incensed the editors, other than M. Portalis, that allthe faithful quills were abandoned, and Poney Revillon, Henry Maret (Yorick), Gabriel Guille, mot and Charles Quenin sent in their indignant resignations, and their brains are consequently in the market. The Pays tuus admonishes the am- bitious Prince :—*If you wish to go witn the repub. licans go alone, for we will never enter into acom- pact with them.” M. Gambetta, in a temperate speech at Periguex, pleaded the cause of the re, publicand contrasted its wise policy with the ruinous, disorganiziNg course of the Empire. Meanwhile, in order not to agitate the ever pel- lucid waters of French politics, “Henri V.” has written his 543d letter on what he has done fo France to the Vicomte Rodez-Benavent:— THE OOMTA DE CHAMBORD. Frousporr, Sept.19, 1873, ‘The feeling which one experieuces, my dear Vis. count, on reading the details which you gave me on the revolutionary propaganda in your province is one of sadness. People cannot stoop lower in order to,procure arms against us, and nothing is more unworthy the French character. To be re- duced in 1873 to evoking the phantom ot the dime, of feudal rights, Of religions intolerance, of perae- cution against brothers separated from us tn creed— the phantom orbas more need I say?) of a war undertaken under impossible conditions, of a of priests, of the ascendency of You will admit that things cannot be seriously an- swered, To what falsehoods has not dis- honesty resorted when the question was. how public credulity couid be worked upon? J know very Well that it is not always easy, witnessiug these unworthy manceuvres, to preserve one’s com- posure, but you must reckon on the good sense of your intelligent iellow countrymen to do justice to Buch fooleries, Above all, make a point Of appeal- ing to all honest people on the footing of the social reconstrrction. You know that {am not a party, and that ) will not come back to reign by means of @ party. Ineed the co-operation of all, and all have the need of me. As for the reconciliation which has been so loyally accomplished in the House of France, tei] those who are trying to d tort that great event that everything done on the 5th of August was really done for the sole purpose of giving France its proper rank in the dearest in- veresta alike of ber prosperity, her giory and her greatness. Count, my dear Rodez, open Gr gratitude and constant affection. RY, LOXG ISLAND CITY POLITICS. + A New Convention to Nominate a New Candidate for Surrogate. Politics in the four-year-old city over the East River are becoming rather warm. On the ticket nominated by the County Democratic Convention the new metropolis of Long Island is represented by Daniel R. Lyddy, who entered the race for the. Surrogate prize. According to the accounts re- ceived from the vartous towns through the county since the Oonvention the latter nomina- tion appears to have given considerable dissatisfation to the staid old residents of Queens, and the democracy of Long Island City deciares itseif to be anything but delighted, The candidate has resided there only a few months, and the cry of “carpet-bagger”’ has come tobe long and loud. Fears were ex- pressed by the old-line democrats that the weight of this nomination will bring down the whole ticket. It seems that, for the purpose of obtaining the nomination, Mr. Lyddy has been very active, in connection with two or three other persons, in the recent crusade against the Mayor and the City Judge which fizzled out so ingloriously, and which, itis charged, was inaugurated for the sole purpose of bringing its promoters into a factitious promt- nence. On this fact becoming known the citizens of both political parties have begun to express very decided opinions on the conduct of the “im. peachers” and their sympathizers in the Board of Aldermen, and the whole thing is now character- ized as a political job. The Utne opponents of Lyddy openly boast that his vote will be insig- nificant, and that his name onthe other ticket insures them all the county offices, not only because of his attacks on reputable members of the democracy since he took up his residence in the county, but on account of his previous record and antecedents. Meantime tl republicans have endorsed Mr, Sutphin, the demo- cratic nominee for County Olerk, leaving Judge Armstrong almost alone, as jt were, on the ticket. The Judge’s friends will certainly work hard for him, though they grieve loudly for the discouraging: circumstances surrounding all thetr efforts. ‘nis state of aifairs having been made known to the democratic candidate tor Sur- rogate he hag signified his intention to retire from a contest which he feels would only baie 5 the whole democratic ticket. Such action on lis part will necessitate the meeting of another county convention to nominate a new man for Probate Judge. On the whole, it is evident that the at- tempt of these parties to take a selfish advan of the recent cry of universal reform, by trying to defame reputable officials upon groundless charges, is about to recoil upon them severely. A HORRIBLE OUTRAGE AND MURDER. Meurnis, Tenn., Oct. 13, 1873, Near Boydavilic, Weakly county, Tennessee, last week eight or ten armed men went toa citizen's house and took @ negro gir! out into the woods and each outraged her. They did not attempt to dis- guise themselves and carried thetr victim but @ short distance from the house. The couple with irl lived were powerless to prevent fen ae ia were compelled tolisten to the agonizing shrieks of the hein eae, creature. Her body was found soon after the degraded beasts had left, most horribly mangled and life extinct. It is stated that the facts were never re) the authorities, and the body was buried without any legal examination. Efforts were made to hush up the matter because of the alleged respectability of some of the participants in the outrage, A COLLISION ON THE CAMDEN AND AMBOY RAILROAD, government privileged classes! 80 little serious PHILADELPHIA, Pa., Oct, 19, 1978. Report has just reached here that two trains collided on the Camden and Amboy division of the Pennsylvania Railroad to-night, at Palinyra, nine miles out of Cam engineer and fireman of one of killed, No particulars,