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‘“THE METHODIST Opening of the Third Comp Meeting for the Season of the Sea Cliff Grove Association and the Land Improvement Society. A Voyage Up Long Island Sound in the Method- ist Steamboat Arrowsmith—What a Herald Re- porter Knows About ‘Getting a Cup of Tea” on Board—The Brethren as Chewers and Smokers—Singing the Songs of Zion on the Voyage—Brother Boole’s Sermon on the Higher Life—Effect of an Eng- lish Methodist Preacher’s Sermon om the Congregation—The Camp Meeting Played Out—A List of Godly Brethren Who Are Summer Residents. SEa CLirF GROVE OaMP Art ead . August 26, 1873, “The Methodist Farm,” as the Sea Clif camp grove has been somewhat irreverently named by the scoffers, is again on view, under the inspiring effect oj religious influences and the early days of the autumnal season. Camp meetings have been held here this year already, during the enervating depressions of the summer sun, and the good work of real estate bargaining and the cultivation of ‘the Christian virtues have gone on auring that time somewhat discordantly. Brethren and sis- ters, who are supposed to dwell together in these sylvan retreats in Christian unity, have been com- pelled to make the acqnaintance of the lawyers—a profession that is popularly supposed to have more to do with Belial than with Christ. It Is proposed by the present meeting to try the softening tnflu- ences of the early autumn days, which Tennyson @eacribes as the season in which Sweetened with the summer light, ‘The full-juiced apple, waxing over mellow, Drops in a sient autumn night. How far the season will be favorable to the growth ef those graces that will smooth down to the smoothness of a well kept croquet lawn those tangled weeds of temper that have caused the angry mallets of the lawn to be lifted aloft def- antly clasped in the fair hands of a widow and a maid, and beld menacingly over the heads of men whose righteousness has been as current and as reliable as A DOLLAR BILE, Thad an opportunity of judging yesterday. im the morning I found my way on the QOamp Mecting Association’s own Arrowsmith, bound for the camp ground. ‘There was @ very heavy cargo of Methodists, mainly “sisters,” both fore and aft. Modesty ef mien and moderation in dress were, I 8m bound to say, the outward adornments ‘of the ladies, but at this early hour of the day I was vontent to take a general survey of the company, deferring a more particular acquaimtance toa more convenient season. The cause of this procrastina- tion was traceable to the fact that I had ‘a call” in another direction. Iam sorry to say it was in the @irection of ‘‘the bar.’’ My nattve modesty pre- vented me vocalizing my desires and so I went from stem to stern in quest of what I thought might be publicly designated as “refreshments,” I knew Twas upon a Methodist boat. I was not quite cer- tain that the deckhands had not burned the bridges Df bad habits, and that to ask them if there was “a bar*’ on board would not be to arouse within them ® fiery indignation that might wither my purpose to obtain a breakfast. I came, however, to a hallf- poncealed stairway, and to one of these deckhands, who was balancing his legs on a cask near by, I simply said, “Anything down there, do you think?” He put on the smile of the Celestial and said, “1 guess there is.” Iwent down the stairway strong in faith and Early board boat, WEAK IN STOMACH, Setting my foot upon the lowest rung of the ladder there burst upon my astonished gaze a bar—so palpably “a bar” that it might have been taken out of a Bowery basement and put aboard. Behind the bar was a genial-faced bartender. I went up andeurveyed the ‘layout; there was a large plate with a small pile of sandwiches in the middle of it, and tn front of me a variety of glass- ware in the form of bottles, with carnal! and spirit- nous labels thereon. Boxcs of cigars alternated with tin-foiled packets of chewing tobacco. This ‘woked very much like the flesh pots of Egypt, but how wasI to overcome this cluld o/ Israel who yeemed to have charge thereof. 1 looked around; 1 meant to look as if I had never seen a “bar” be- jore, but I'am afraid did not succeed; I turned half away as if the kind of retreshment I was seek- ng were not there, and said with a half-averted face, “I couldn’t get acup of tea hore, could J?” I shall never forget that bartender’s look; he dian’t yay anything, but instinctively I read in his face, bs clearly as Belshazzar did the writing on the wail, “You can’t play that on me, my friend.” I ceugchanay jayel, air of = me te FelLS teNOcuNoR, 4 said, “By the merest chance in the world I as unable to fet breaksast betore I leit home, and TY don’t feel well; 1 tuink a cup of tea would revive e,”” The bartender’s impenitent heart relented. became a believer on the instant, and said he pould give me a cup of tea 1n five minutes; but the pid Adam asserted itself in him, and when I ex- id my desire to wait that short time he Rekea, with a carnal meaning in the tone of the in- , “if lliked it strong.” I meekly said, “Not strong; just a pleasant flavor,” He dived into till farther recesses of the boat, and for five min- utes he was hidden from view. At that time he returned with a cup of tea, that was not too strong id had a bet NG ld flavor. 1 drank and was freshed. I bought some cigars, and over the urchase I ventured to inquire whether the boat on temperance principles. “Strictly temper- Bunce, sir.” I remarked that some of the botties were marked with “Whiskey” and “Old om.” “No liquor in them?” “No, sir,”’ and then he took & bottle from the rack, took the cork out and ae- wired me to SMELL THE INSIDE pf that bottle and say if there was whiskey there, [don’t pretend to be a judge of whiskey, but if my ose was in its normal condition then I should pertainly say there was not. I expressed myself to that effect. The bartender triumphantiy re- turned the bottle to its place and said, ‘No, sir; all that is in that bottle is senna and suits.” I won- dered how that became the iavorite tipple of our Metuodist friends, but a3 1 had not finished my in- terview I jet the liquids go and turned my aiten- tion to the tobacco. I lit my cigar, and as I was deing so I said, ‘The brethren smoke, don’t tney?? “Ob, ea and chew, too.” “Morning Glory, Solace and Flavanas are your Bi. trade, then ?’ I in« quired. ‘That 1s where I do the business. I smoke As many as fifteen cigars a day myself, some- time Iventured to remonstrate agaiust exces- Bive smoking, and delivered myself of a short lec- ture, which was very good naturedly accepted. Alter this I bent my steps heavenward and Btopped short at a little heaven below, outside the aft saloon, where there was @ goodly number of Wingless, but panniered and FURBELOWED ANGELS, jm the shape of godiy women, looking very good and serail very confidentially. Among these was “Sister Skidmore,” dressed in what the und takers would call ‘the habiliments of woe,” who had left the “Old Brewery” in the Five Points to obtain a large supply, of health for the body and ‘e for the soul at the camp. “Sister Bottome,”? he ‘better hali” of the Rey. Mr. Bottome, looking & little worn, with the air and manner ofa tired out prima donna, whose vocal triumphs had ron into the seed of satiety, There were other mothers and maidens in Israel, whose praise is in all the vhurches, but whose names are not quite BR, prominent, There were but few notadle thren there, Here and there a minis- ter and one or twe distinguished laymen were to be seen; but the general company were working Methodists unknown to fame. One of trunree miles itein the camyinst vonsnould sing ip-—that we should sin; 20 the praise and to the glory of God, not merely if the anthem and solo business that Sister Bottome Bnd @ quartet of Methodist ladies, to whom singing is “‘a specialty” had just indulged in, but in those songs of Wesley and Watts whose words and whose music have girdied halfthe earth, The RESPONSIVE CHORD was touched, and the hymn commencing Come, let us join our cheerfal songs, — ‘Was sung by us to a tune that has not lost its tharm since the days when it was (irst sung by the parly Methodists. This was followed by ‘There is # fountainsilled with blood, by AY & very old “revival tune.” By this time we reache Tho crisping ripptes on the beach, And tender curving lines of creamy spray that were gliding lly to and from the shore, On Cy rkation Brother ‘Truslow, one of the ‘Trustees, announced tn: a oa eos a Bags the ow right and went str: for th wise and Soaly. was aie A plank road brought us to tof stairs that had broad plat- Joras ab Ieuan. JaygyTs, ag. WUD jab Ea temegd mae cot hotel and the ‘ DINING Hal LI, parsning. the narrow way that led to the taber- Bacle. It was easily distinguishalbe, for over its cupola was the “Star-' gled Banner,” futtering in the breeze. It is indeed a simple roof where meee ts made; for, though it is a wooden struc- jure, decorated with the neutral tints of modern art and emblazoned glass, it is open on all sides, has a turf floor and for the Gothic groin and colo- nade is substituted the overhanging foi! of the umbrageous trees, There was a congregation that more than half tilled this capacious place of worship. Brother Boole preached, of court about ‘The Higher Life.” He selected for us text, St. John, XViL, 16—"T iy hot that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them trom the evil.” Mr. Boole made large concessions to the worid, as understood in the text. He eaid in the introduction of his sermon that the world had a necessary influence upon us, That as the serpent had to eat of THE DUST OF THE EARTH, 80 man must necessarily be subject by his nature to the influences of the world. All that religion Was to do was to save men irom the evil of the ‘world. This was to be done by the power that transforms and renews the heart of man, It was } done by putting two opponing forces foqetiat, and the power of the religion of Jesus Christ was more powerful than the force that opposed it. Christi- @nity not Only cast outa devil, but it put ina new jorce. A reference was then made to the future of inebriate asylums, reformatory criminal imstitu- tions, which did not regenerate the nature of me: bat only put them in circumstances where the could not exercise the evil that was with them, anybody came out of Sing Sing reiormed he might thauk God that there were a chaplain and pr. meetings there. What was the Church now doing in view of these facts? It did % sufficiently recognize that we were living in @ dispensation of “thou shalts,” and that we had been liited out of a dispensation of “THOU SHALT NOT.”? To fence men around with prohibitions to do evil was not enough. ‘The work that was wanted was to make the tree good and then the iruit would be ‘ood. It is substituting the good for the evil that within us that ig to put us right. Then it was said that professing Christians found enjoyment in certain things—such as dancing, theatre going and similar woridly enjoyments. hy, of course, they did, There was enjoyment in them. It was folly to say that there was not. But there was more enjoyment in the religion of Christ, and what was said was this—That this religion, rightly loved, rightly enjoyed, would make these lower enjoy- ments very interior and very undesirable things. The weakness of the Onurch to-day were its beset- ting sins. If it would be content to leave ita besetting sins behind in twenty years the Church would be a mighty power ii the world and God would reign in the hearts of all mankind, The religion that cannot stand the flery ASSAULTS OF EVIL is not worth having. Rutberlord once said that the Church had been burned in the fire of persecu- tion, but it was like the burning bush that Moses saw-—bo man had yet seen any ashes in it; It went on burning all the time, How, then, was this re- ligion to be presented to the world? The Christian Was to be panoplied in righteousness, He must march through Emmanuel’s land and be more than conqueror, ‘oo many Christians are willing to write about it, to talk about it, and they will even die ior it, They will do everytuing but live for it, Yhis is the outline of what was @ good common sense sermon on the old-fashioned doctrine of sanctification, After the service 1 stroiied to the “Old Ladies’ Home,” a trame building, in a sheltered nook, very near to the tabernacle. It is not yet finished, but several of the “old ladies” are there, and they will soon have @ very cool and pleasant retreat, with an almost houndless view of beautiful scenery, The pretty cottages that nestle in the dales and which are perched along the WOODED SWELLS were all occupied, and the stoops were more or less filled with friends who had recently arrived on the grounds. About one o’clock provision for tne flesh was made by an adjournment to the dining nall, where luncheon’ can be obtained on the European plan. There was the arrival of a steamboat excursion party from Bridgeport about this time, but the caterers were equal to the occasion, and they had evidently taken the hint of the HERALD and provided better food at more moderate price: ‘he dining hall now connects with the hotel, ani the latter 1s, by it» new carpets and new furniture, gradually assuming a more attractive appearance, aad acknowledging, with more decid emphasis than it formerly aid, the onward march of civiliza- lion, There is, however, @ large margin for im- provement leit yet, asis shown by the muserably Tarnished bedrooms, which lack even the ordinary protection of yer and which leave the occu- pants exposed to the gaze of every sojourner. It is manilest to the most impartial observer that the “camp meeting’ here, as camp meetings have always been understood, is PLAYED OUT. Nobody seems to regard it otherwise than as the accident of the place, and there is an implied in- dication about many of the cottage residents and the transient visitors, though it is not openly ex- pressed, that the religious services are a “much ado about nothing.” This was not quite so manifest in the afternoon, when the Rev. Mr. Penrose, a minister from England, belonging to the Primitive Metnodist connection, preached a good old fash- joned, present salvation serinon; but the hold that it took of the congregation and the prayer meet- ing that was spontaneously commenced after the sermon showed that the latter was out of the ordinary routine and had aroused a hidden fire, Among the prominent Methodists present were the Presiding Elder J. B. Merwin, F. Stokes, 8. H. Gilder, J. H. Saunders, Chris, Wilitams ingen, Conn.), Proiessor Welis, (Union Coll cee), tuer Reynolds, J. B. Hill, Dr. Woodruff, John Middleton (Methodist Bookroom) and W. C. Steel. The camp meetings will continue for about A WEEK LONGER, but even after that the cottages will be occupied by their respective owners, and these include good Christians like Alderman Faiconer, Charles Apple- gate, Dr. Dupuy, Brother Battershall and other equally shining lights in the firmament of grace, 8o that visitors may be assured that, even after the camp meeting privileges have passed away for the year, a short communing with men 80 good and ape as those we have named will amply re- pay the voyage up the Sound in the good old Metho- dist Arrowsmith. VALUABLE SUGGESTIONS. apelin thither Let Railroad and Steamboat’Companies Have the Means at Hand for Assisting the Passengers They Burr and Maim. New York, August 22, 1873, To THE EprTor OF THE HERALD :— Having travelled by railroad over the greater portion of the United States and Canadas, and by river and coastwise steamers, during tne past six or seven years, I desire to express an opinion as to the care exercised by the various transportation companies in providing suitable means to protect the lives of their passengers and to relieve the suf- ferings of those injured by accidents Nearly all the companies enact salutary rules, which, if obeyed, would largely diminish the num- ber of casualties; but the desire to make large profits causes them to select Many incompetent men, and then we have the inevitable Tesults—maiming, scalding, burniag and deaths. With the exception of a medicine chest on some of the steamboats, I kuow ot no company, either steamboat or railroad, which has the materials at hand to enable the surgeon, who may by chance be on the spot at the time of disaster, to afford relief. Hence hours of agony are endured by the wounded and many lives lost bj Gelay in applying appropriate treatment in eac' case, It cannot be expected that @ physician who is travelling shall carry all the medical and surgt- cal ap nces of his profession. Ali needed articles should be part of the equipment of the train. I once attended a case of laudanum poison- ing on the Erie Railroad, aud, for lack of an emetic, the man died, although at the next sta- tion—some twenty miles from the point where his condition Was first noticed—pnysicians were ready vo employ the necessary treatment for such cases; but their services were of no avail—the poison ha accomplished its work, Ihave been present at collisions, burnings, and Rosati and have fortunately been of some ser- vice, as [always carry a pocket case of instruments and some anoayne; but Ihave been ovligea to see much avoidable suffering when my scanty supply of medical stores has been exhausted. It is seldom that liquor in some form cannot be found on the train among the passengers. In one case where it was absolutely necessary to administer stimulants toa wounded man, I searched the train thrgugh and found one flask of brandy with afew ounces only remaining, which the owner sent to the suilerer after he and his friend had taken a “parting drink!” Had the railroad company made suitable provision for ac- cidents this man might have been alive to-day. I would suggest, in view of the apparently unavoid- able accidents, that each passenger train be dha plied with @ jack, to be used in raising a wreck, under which may lie one or more disabied men or women; @case of surgical instruments and ban- dages, and a medi chest contaiping ether, brandy, opium in some form, emetics, linseed oil and lime water for burns and scaids, and that each” car be suppiled with an axe, two or three buckets and a fire extinguisher. Had the ill-fated train at “Angola” been 80, eqetenes I have ne doubt that nearly a score of lives would have been saved, Couid not the HERALD do @ good work by publish. ing the names of ail the railroads thus equipped, if there are any, and thus stimulate others to make the trifling outlay which would save lives and suifering? GQ UNKNOWN DEAD, ‘The body of a man, about thirty-five years of age, whose name is unknown, shortly before six o'clock Yesterday morning was found lying dead in the hallway of premises No, 100 Sheriff street. No Marks of vielence were perceptibie on the body, and death is supposed to have resulted (rom intem- bi ased was five jeet seven inches oe neigh: with dark hair, sandy mustache and goatee. He wore a green coat, dark pantaloons, white shirt, gaiter shoes, but no stockings. Coro- cab JDOE MOT AD Was Ry tuled ROGER TICHBORNE. Veterinary Surgeon Crowley on the “Real” Man. Why He Wanted to See Mr. Whallev. ROGER’S IRISH RECORD. His Habit of Going After the Tipperary Hounds, Followed by Crowley. Names of Military Men and Civil- ians Who Also Knew the “Heir.” “I Last Saw Him at Euston Square, London, in 1854.” SPRINGFIELD, lll., August 25, 1873, It 1s somewhat singular to see the interest taken out here in the developments of the famous Tich- borne claimant’s case in England, Renewed in- terest was recently excited by the publication of a private letter from John Crowley, @ well known veterinary surgeon of this city, to a newspaper friend, in which the statement is made that he (the writer of the letter) was personally acquainted with Roger Tichborne early in life, and served him in the capacity of riding master, Agreeubly to in- structions your correspondent called upon Mr. Crowley last evening with a view of eliciting from him more detailed information concerning his knowleage of Roger than he has heretofore made public, Mr. Crowley was found at his office at the livery stable of the St. Nicholas Hogel, and after he had attended to a caller who was present to secure his veterinary services for the morrow, welcomea your correspondent, ‘MR. CROWLEY {s a gentleman of the old school, who, while rigidly Maintaining an old time dignity, occasionally brightens up and becomes quite loquacious, and Witty, also, after the manner of his countrymen. He ts medium sized, dark in complexion, with hair liberally sprinkled gray, and walks as erectly and with as much precision as though all his life a sol- dier, After your correspondent had seated himself and produced tie inevitable note book the follow- ing conversation ensued :— CORRESPONDENT—Mr. Crowley, at the request of the New YORK HERALD, I have called upon you to learn such facts connected with your knowledge of Roger Tichborne as you may feel willing to com. municate, Mr. CROWLEY—Well, I had not originally in- tended to make public anything concerning the matter; but Inasmuch as it appears to have been made public, at least partially, I may as well tell the whole story, and the New York HERALD Will probably make it more fully known in this country and in England than any other paper. CORRESPONDENT—Did you not write a letter about the matter some time ago, in the expecta- tion that it would be published ? Mr, CROWLEY—I did write a letter toa personal friend in Chicago; but it was merely a letter of in- quiry, as I thought he, being a reporter, might know where Mr. Whalley, the claimant’s agent, ‘was, in case he had arrived in this country, and might bring about a meeting between Mr. Whatley and myself. The letter was not intended for pub- lication, and a wrong impression seems to have been drawn from it. I would like to CORRECT THAT FIRST IF YOU PLEASE. CoRESPONDENT—In what particular is this er- roneous impression ? Mr. CRowLEY—Well, I see that it 18 stated by some of the newspapers that Sir Roger Tichborne boarded with my mother, who is stated to have kept a hotel in “Clogher,” Tipperary county, Ire- land, where it is stated that Sir Roger’s regiment was stationed. This is wrong. My mother died in 1849, before [knew Roger. My mother-in-law, Mrs. Keating, kept a hotel in Wellington, St, Cahir, ‘when the regiment was stationed in that town, and the officers sometimes called at the place, and I have met Roger there; but I usually met him in the hunting Held CORRESPONDENT—When did you first become ac- quainted with Roger Tichborne, Mr. CROWLEY —In 1851, in the town of Cahir, Tip- perary county, Ireland, Cis cae atte long was the acquaint- ance Mr. CRowLEY.—Well, I knew Sir Roger well, and may say that I was intimately acquainted with him up to 1854. I hunted with him about three times a week with the garrison hounds. CORRESPONDENT.—His regiment was stationed there then, was it ? KNEW SIR ROGER WELL. Mr. CRowLEY.—Yes, it was in garrison there. He was a lieutenant in the Sixta dragoon carbineers. Imet ail the officers of the regiment frequently and knew Lieutenant Colonel Hay, who was in com- mand, and Majer Jones, now Colonel, also Captain Morton, who I think commanded the company Sir Roger was in, and Captaim Manders, then pay- master of the regiment, and I believe yet attached to it. I knew Sir Roger better than the others, shou and saw him oitener, in fact nearly every jay. CORRESPONDENT—You were his riding master, were you not? Mr. CROWLEY—All the instruction he received from me in riding was in the hunting field. He was in the habit of riding with long stirrups and 1 made him shorten them because he could so ride more advantageously about the country. CoRRESPONDENT—Can you describe Sir Roger as you remember him ? Mr. CROWLEY—I can; stand up, He was a little taller than you—perhaps about five feet nine inches—and weighed aboat ten stone (140 pounds) I think. He was quiet and unassuming and a per- fect gentleman in every respect. CORRESPONDENT—Your description does not exactly represent that of the claimant, as I remem- ber to have read it, at CROWLEY (forcibly)—I was speaking of Sir er, JORKESPONDENT—Then you do not think the claimant is Sir Roger ¢ Mr. CROWLEY—I don’t say anything about that; Inever saw the man; if | couid see him it wouldn’t take me but @ minute to say if he is Sir Roger. CORRESPONDENT—We will refer to that point again if you please, After he left Canir did you ever see Sir Roger? Mr, CROWLEY—Yes, I met bim in Dublin and in London several times, é A eae nae where did you seo him ast Mr, OROWLEY—The last place I saw him was at | Eastom square station, in London; that was in February, 1854, CORRESPONDENT—You knew of his leaving the conan ? Mr. CRowLBy—Oh, yes! I didn’t leave the old country until October, 1865. CORRESPONDENT—Had yon heard any rumor of bis probable lors previous to leaving ? Mr, CROWLEY—No, [never heard of it until the legal proceedings began. \ORRESPONDENT—liave you ever been invited to testify in the case, either for the Urown or the claimant? Mr. CROWLBY—Never, CORRESPONDENT—How do yon account for it? Mr. CROWLEY—Well, pertiaps they didn’t know where I was, or may be they didn’t need my testi- mony. CORRESPONDENT—But from what you say I should think you would be able to say whether the claim- ant ia really Sir Koger; hence your testimony would be very important. Mr. CRowLfy—If any man can tell that I can. we sight of the claimant would be enough for me; then 1 COULD TELL IN A MINUTE WHETHER HE IS SIR ROGER. CORRESPONDENT—You would have no trouble, I suppose, in establishing your own identity as an ingtractor in riding to Bit Koger ? Mr. CROWLEY—Not a bit. nere are plenty of gentiemen yet living in the old country who know me, and for that matter knew Sir Roger Tichborne a8 Well asidid, There are George Gough, of Clon- mel, Tipperary count} that time master of the Tipperary Club hound: 4 Mr. Wiliam Going, Jus- tice of tiie Peace, at Ballyphillip, in the same county ; aiso his brouher John, of the same place, and, in fact, I was known by all the gentlemen ridt ie with the county Tipperary Club hounds at that time, and many of them are still living. UORKESPONDENT—These parties you have men- tloned, you say, knew Sir Roger also ? Mr. ChowiBY—Tney aid. cosaeetonper tld a or ipems been; called ‘upon to testify, that you kno a. Gnowuny think they haven’ RRESPONDENT—-That appears strange. Have any of Sir Roger's brother officers that you re- dered to pecan caved upon as Witnogees T Mr. CRowLEY—I saw by the HERALD and other papers that some o! them have, RRESPONDENT—Weil, did they recognize the otgapnns as Bir Oger . ER ir. CROWLEY—I believe that the; n't think he was Sir Roger at all. ". CoRKESVONDENT—And you are certain that you could identify the claimant if he is Sir Roger? Mr. CROWLEY (very forcibly)—If he is Sir Roger I can identify him in two minutes, and be can identify me. CORRESPONDENT—Have you ever written to the old country about the matter of your ability to identify Sir Roger, if the claimant is really he? Mr. CROWLEY—Never; my old neighbors know that I know all about Sir Roger, but I have not corresponded with either side and don’t know whether they know [ am here. CORRESPONDENT—Did you hear anything from Mr, Whalley when he was here? Mr, CROWLEY—Not a line. 1 wrote, as I told pals to a friend to inquire about Mr, Whalley, an wanted to invite him out here and show him the country, and in order that we might talk over the matter, 1 would like, too, to say, through the HERALD, as i notice that some of the papers are linting that I want to go home only and want this matter to help me, 1 never said I wanted to go home to give testimony, though Itaink my testimony would be very important so far as identification is concerned, {do not care to go home any way, CORKBSPOND ‘Well, what do you think of the claimant's chances, Mr, Crowley. He has ade & tong fight, Do you think he 1s Sir Roger ? ir, CROWLEY—I don't know; | never saw the man and perhaps he don’t care to see me, He’s made a plucky fight, at ali events, ‘ CORRESPONDENT—-But don’t you think that if he ‘was really Sir Roger he would be desirous to have you and others whom you say knew Sir Roger when you did, as witnesses Mr. CROWLEY—I think so, and our testimony would settle the matter of identity, CORRESPONDENT—But in tailing to call upon you and others who in his early liie knew Sir Rozer don’t you think the claimant gives evidence that he is Dot Sir Roger? Mr, CROWLEY—I don’t know, Without seeing the man, of course, 1 can’t say whether or no he is Str Roger. CuRRESPONDENT—Is there anytning else of inter- est you can think of? 2 ir, CROWLEY—NO, sir; I have told about all. CORRESPONDENT—One more question, if please, Mr. Crowley, Can you give the HERALD any information as to the private life of Sir Roger; as to Nis morality say, which appears to be a point tn the trial? Mr. CROWLEY—Sir Roger was a gentleman, sir, in every way. CORRESPONDENT—Not one who would be likely to tarnish his name by any excess or misconduct ? Mr. OROWLEY—No, sir, he was a gentieman, I always found, and, kuowing him so weil, I would have known if he was otherwise, Thus ended our interview, and bidding Mr. Crowley good night your correspondent lest, It appears evident, though he will not admit 1t directly, that Mr, Crowley does not take much stock in the claims of the cialmant. He appears well informed as to Sir Roger’s career while in Treland, and has closely watched the claimant’s case in its severa] stages throughout its course thus far. ‘lo but few has he recorded any knowl- edge of Sir Roger until recently, but his friends assert that they have been advised of it for two or three yeare, SEs . Dr. Kenealy’s Life’s Work—Close of the Longest Speech on Record. [London correspondence Dundee Advertiser, . August 16.) 145 FLEErStReet, London, Friday Evening. Dr. Kenealy closed his address this afternoon in the Tichborne case without giving the slightest indication that he was drawing his terrible oration to atermination. His junior, however, assures us that ‘‘somenow or other” there will be an end of the speech on Monday, and tuen the witnesses who are to prove the defendant is not Arthur Orton will be cailed, Pending the arrival of the interest- ing Wappingites, 1t 1s painful to observe that the deiendant himself is not acting up to the character for gentlemanly behavior which his counsel has been giving him. To-day an unlucky artist was in the Court making a sketch, The judges had leit the bench for lunch, and the jury lad left the Court presumabiy for the same purpose, so {he coast was clear, and the defendant assailed the young artist, remarking, as he passed near bim, “Why, man, 1 cou!d beat that myself, Are you the artist of the Folice News?” Returning to the Court the defendant again attacked the artist, who was mak- ing a few simple sketches of “character,” and in a manner and tone of no very elevating aescription en:ieavored to attract the attention of a crowaca assembly to the poor artist, It was a very con- temptible exhibition, but it was child’s play itself to the irequency of the quarrels, conducted in audible tones, Hetween the defendant and Dr. Kenealy. since Dr. Kenealy announced that his speech is not to go on lorever, the affection of the deiendant for his eloquent advocate appears to have declined rapidly, and to-day he appearea quite ferocious because Dr. Kenealy said it was the Jancy of &@ madman to sappose—as the deiendant had supposed—that the family solicitor had oftered £1,000 to some one to do away With him. EXCURSION OF THE CHILDREN. The Sick and Destitute Little Ones En- jJoying the Scenery and Sreezcs of the River and Bay. Yesterday morning the sick and destitute chil- dren of the tenement houses were taken on the river and bay in the second excursion under the auspices of the Society of St. John’s Guild, which has come to be known best in connection with these poor unfortuuates, At an early hour the barge Republic—whose departure haa been an- nounced in the HERALD—left her wharf at the foot of Christopher street, and began the process of picking up the poor peopie from different portions of the city. It was nearly teno’clock before the Republic left her last landing at Thirty-fourth street for THE SAIL UP THE HUDSON. The arrangements made by the President, Mr. Wiswall, were of the most complete character. Drs, Thomas, Crampton, Kennedy and Styles con- stituted the medical staf, and (as it proved) an unnecessary precaution for the preservation of order existed In the presence of Roundsman Meade and Patrolmen O’Connor, Fisher and McPherson, from the Twenty-sixth precinct, Before the barge had iairly left the dock BREAKFAST WAS SERVED, and a count showed that over 700 women and children were on board, Aside from the general assemblage were afew younz ladies, Mra, Leggat, Mrs, Magnusson, Miss Kendal, Miss Minnie Kolilns, Miss Nettie Burpy, Miss Featherson and Miss McVormick. Sister Kebecca and others who have been ardent workers 10 the cause of tne poor and miserable, and several beg © shed gentlemen, were also on board, including Mr. Henry 5. Digby, at one time the nted author of “Ginx's Baby,’’ who figured Jargely at Saratoga last year, and is weil known asa member of one of the first families in England ; the weil known scuiptor, Mr, O'Donovan; Mr. Dea- con, the arttsi, and others, But the great feature, never-failg in its influence, waS that which brought all together, and fora moment we will look upon you THE FACES OF THE POOR. On every hand one saw them, pallid and shriveled, but with eyes more lustrous than of late, beammng with a new light, catching glimpses of somettung hitherto unknown, sometiing beyond the promise of tue dim, tear-washed record of their past. There was One poor iad with @ face such as once .will haunt one in one’s drean A face so pale and Wan, and with eyes reflecting a sad light, full of poetry, yet full of resignation (g jie suffer. ing that had come, and seemed to be all that could | come, though the dark future unveiled its blackest | copies face that mirrored misfortune and pre- faced peace. And there Was @ lttle baby there, a baby whose motier had dted at its birth, and all around it gathered these children of want, gasing upon it as 4 thing from wonderland. Poor, pallid thing! It seemed @ shadow, forecasting the shrinking skele- ton that uplocks the door of life; in old age a miniature octogenarian, that lived for a few hours only to show Men the infinite possibilities of the ab- solute. And there were children Ue children gusping for life, There were cripples, There were those Who were consumptive. There were con- valescents and those who were catching their last breatu in this World—who to-night will be sighing on the shores of eternity, And these poor souls, WASTED IN A WRECKED INFANCY, dying while looking at their first footprints on the desert of time, have gone or are going to tho Father Who knows the history of their lives. Others may tell tt, but in the course of nature it ts written on the scroll of time, Infinivesimal life is born of God, Man has no warrant to crush, Bat when man volunteers in the service of the Saviour of Men then be earns real estate in heaven. it would be impossible here to mention all those who contributed to the success of this last excur- sion. Among them, however, we will give a where praise is due, to the band from the Marine Barracks of the Navy Yard. Lieutenant Harring- ton, of the corps, brought over fourteen pieces, under the leadership of Signor Occa, formerly leader on the Franklin, flagship of Admiral Farra- gut, (God bless him forever! The superintendents of the various districts were present, including Mr, Charles O’Conor, Mr, George Calder, Rev. Arthur rner, George Da- vid Brown, Mr. Stander, of t an sub-district, and rendered valuabie assistanct A (ull statement of the expenses of this excur- siou Will be given in to-morrow’s issue SUBSCRIPTIONS to the fund, by means of which the society is enabled thus to give the poor children an occa- sional treat and to relieve and to minister com- fort to them every day, will continus to be re- ceived at the HERALD office, ACCIDENTALLY DROWNED, William ©. Johnson, a jad nearly eight years of age, whose parents live at No, 343 East Bighth street, was accidentally drowned op Wednesday a(ternoon b: Se into the dock while fein, on the pier. The body was recovered and Coroucr MerlwaR DOWIE 0 Rold au jDaUEHle ‘ NEW YORK HERALD, FRIDAY, AUGUST 29, 1873—TRIPLE SHEET. 33 | ness of ascent was considerably modified. The FARM: summit emanate and there was stretched before CUBA. Spanish Canard Concerning Cespedes’ Offer of Surrender. aiatasionaen Bulletin of Spanish Defeat and the Death of Goneral Burriel—Men Who Have Been Thrown to the Surface in Troublesome Times—Colonel Lamela, Governor of the City of Manzanillo—His Bear- ing, Character, Administra- tion and Fortune; Agricul- turist Buin — Severe Fighting and Dis- aster to the Foreigners. Havana, Angust 23, 1873, The Voz de Cuda yesterday took upon iteclf to set an-immense canard afoat, to the effect that Presi- dent Cespedes and his men had made offers of sur- render under the conditions of an unlimited par- don and the return o! their sequestered property. This invention has found no echo in any of the other journals of this city, nor bas the story found any believers. If such offers had been tn reality made itis more likely that La Legalidad, the Cap- tain General’s reputed organ, would have had something to say ob the subject. Your correspond- ent mentions the matter on account of the many rumors without foundation telegraphed to the press of the United States, and probably this 1s the principal reason that the conservative press occa- ional publish some stirring item to further their REPORTED DEFEAT OF THE SPANIARDS, Since yesterday it has been whispered among Cuban sympathizers that near Santiago de Cubaad Spanish column had suffered a tremendous defeat, losing cighty killed, macheteados, among them Brigadier General Burriel, Governor of Santiago de Cuba and commanding general of that district. I can only give you the foregoing as the lavorantes have it. Such news, as a matter of course, the cen- sor, Who rules the political destinies of the Inter- national Ocean Telegraph from Havana, will not allow to be wired, La Republica Espaftola yesterday denounced the celebration of ‘subversive’? reunions, or juntas de purificacion as they are Calied, in which several persons have been insulted on account of having Inanilested their Saeroinanos Ol standing by tue actual government Spanish Governors and Their System of Provincial Sway—The Ruler of the City of Manzanillo, His Rule and For- tune. MANZANILLO, Angust 9, 1873, To continue the sketches of the public characters which the insurrection has brought into promi- nence, oficers who have made names and fortunes by reason of tne brief authority in which they are clothed, who otherwise would never have been heard oi, your correspondent will take for the sub- ject of this week’s letter the Governor of this city, Colonel Lamela, who has continued the same line of conduct adopted by his predecessors in ofMice, Ampudia and Santalis, but with the advan- tage of being naturally a despot and of such a caii- bre that he does not even deign to raise his eyes or nod his head in sign of attention to those who come to see him on business. Many think he de- sires to obtain a certain reputation by means of his ugly face and evil manners, as he is unable to win any laurels in the field, jor in a recent sorte he attempted against the insurgents he made a most lamentable failure, PROOF. As proof of the assertion that he is keeping up the same line of conduct as his predecessors, 0 tyranny and oppression to the weak and helpless, he imprisoned on the 3d inst., on mere suspicion alone, the famous Don Pedro Mesa, and all his family, even to grandchildren; and Don Gregorio Yero and family, both comprising women and inoffensive children, aud who have been crowded imto the stinking cells of the Jail of this city, and now form part of that human mass of misery which has existed from the time of Don Juan Am- pudia, What end 1s gained by the imprisonment on suspicion of helpless women and children? What a poor idea is formed of that government which occupies itself in oppressing the weak be- cause it finds itself unabie to stem the current which precipitates it to rain. Don Felix Leiva, @ man of eighty years, was also imprisoned because, it is said, he received wax from the insurgents and bartered food and clothing in exchange, This has not been proved, but mean- white Leiva, almost blind and feeble enough to be carried, Was led through the streets of this town, tied like the most dangerous criminal, a piteous spectacle of horror and age, and maitreated to such an eXtreme, on @ bare assertion and suspicion of trade with the rebels. Marcus Annius Eurus Dentatos rejected the im- mense sum of gold with which the Samnite emis- saries endeavored to buy him of, saying “Depart, and know that the Romans do not covet gold but dominion over those who possess it.” But here the reverse is the case, and it 18 necessary to rule those who do not possess a dollar; and such is the abandoned state of agriculture that that end is rapidly approaching. THE ESTATES AND PLANTATIONS which were not burned by the Cubans, are being abandoned by their owners, obliged thereto by the swarm of guerilla soldiers, whose only atm, in- stead of protecting —? seems to be to de- stroy it, Don Silverio Valerio has recently, on this account, dismantied his sugar plantation—only about a league from the city—and removed there- from all his cattle and laborers, for it has been daily the scene of depredations by the bands of thieves, who lay waste and rob under the cloak of “defenders of national integrity.” Among the lesser class of farmers the panic is op the increase, and they choose either to go into the insurrecuon or to take refuge in the towns, where they prefer to drag outa miserable existence rather than re- main on their farms, exposed to being arrested and maltreated upon tie slightest suspicion. In this manner agricuitural production 1s exhausted and consequently sapped—the basis of ail other elements which constitute the prosperity ol the country, Will the Spanish goverument continue its course, mounted upon so squalid anag that when it falis—which is not long to be waited for— its rider will be dashed to pieces? GOVERNOR LAMELA, the worthy successor of Governor Santalis, whom O'Kelly 80 graphically pictured, has the intention to reconstruct the ruined theatre of this city (whe all the neighboring farms are being de- stroyed, and, shame to justice, the laborers as- Signed to it are the inoflensive countrymen who perhaps unjustly suffer the imprisonment and sen- tences imposed on them!), and by imposing large fines upon the citizens upon every and any pretext he obtains the necessary funds for the materials. Unjust, do you say? What then? If Colonel La- | mela cannot pluck laurels by fighting the enomy he seeks for them in notoriety—that is, in doing something for his advancement, changing the Pea- body plummet for that of the mason, although to do so he way have to coment his jame with the sweat ol the poor and money wrung irom dire ne- | ceasity. THE DAYS OF BATTLE. Meantime I have been just informed by a person fresh irom the theatre of operatious—but not tue theatre of which Lamela pretends to be the prompter—that the Bueycito contra-gueriia had been dispersed and almost destroyed by an iusur- gens force, | shail Communicate details further on. The rumor is widely circulated around here and receives considerable credence, that the vol- unteers of Havana, if affairs in Spain continue as they are at present, intend to proclaim themselves the independence of vuba and secession from Spain, judging this measure as the best to be adopted for tneir interests. The Peninswars, to a certain degree educated, residents in this island, foresee a8 inevita- ble the fall of Spanish domination im this last corner of its ancient empire, and knowing the wide divisions which this cruel war, which has lasted already for five years, has made be- tween them and the native born, it undoubtedly enters into their calculations that by proclaim- ing the independence of Cuba, and thus destroy- ing the sacred cause for which the latter have 80 bravely fought, to heal up opeu wounds and ac- quire certain rights, natural and inherent to ail who contribute to the termination of work, But there is another side to this project. bia “National Integrity” has only been @ cateh-word, and fearing reforms, the emancipation of siavery and a government more in consonance with demo- cratic ideas, these volunteers, forgetting their weakness and building upon their strength, pre- tend to separate irom their native land and keep Hi ie régime to which they are so addicted in this and. Referring again to the;Bueycito contra-guerilla, I learn that oat were about fity-eight men strong and commanded by a certain Tejeda, and were at- tacked on the brow of the lacaibama mountains, about two leagues and a half from Bayamo, aud only thirteen men made good their escape into the last named city. WHAT IS COMING. Undoubtedly serious events in preparation for this jurisdiction, The skirmishers of a numer- ous insurgent force came close up last night to the round towers which guard the suburbs of the city and Cg oe shots with the sentinels, The gov- ernment isin need of forces in order to take the offensive, and consequently remains inactive be- hind the trenches of ita fortifications, while the enemy devastates the country and seizes every- vhin, But the most positive signs of the govern- ment impotence are the advantages gained for some time, past over the “braye and invincible tards. 1 am well informed that THE ATTACK ON THE BERMESA CAMP panlardiy Wand terrible disasver to the Almost two whole companies of infantry, macheteados the insurgents, were lost there, ail on account of the surprising indecision of Colonel Montancr and Major Vicente Rios, The latter must have need the difference between fighting insurgents lifting their cattle, Strong recrimtnations have aircady passed between these two oilicers, each throwing the blame apon toe other and accusing each other of cowardice upon the oecasion. How- ever, each will probably get another brevet, thanks to some pompous despatch. Montaner also suf- fered a lew days ago another disaster, which haa kept him shut up and surly in his encampment at Veguita, fe went out to reconnoitre, and between fBarrancas apd the Humilla- dero fell in with an fnsurgent band dressed exactly like the Spanish troops in cam- paign. A few shots were fired between the van- guards of each body, but the Cubana cried ou “Stop firing! We belong to San Quintin’ (one 0! the Spanish battalions operating in this district). ‘The few moments ef time that followed gave them time to come up and fall upon their enemies with the machete, in the surprise killing and wounding many, and among the wounded several officers. However, the particulars will be given in some lying despatch, which will shower'all the glory and advantage upon the Spantards, The gallantry shown by tho Cubans in all their recent attacks cious oartarnates to ones bugbear of new soldiers, J 's, proves them to be, as a high sl ofiicer lately remarked, “the vetaraan rae MUNICIPAL CURIOSITIES, One Furnished with a Travelling Passport and Another Dying an Early Death—How Kent Got Up Too Soon for Banta— Boubling Feos—The “City Rec- ord” “Nigger” Coaxed Out of the Fence—His Unconstitution- al Weakness. In the good old time, last spring, when every- body wanted a nomination and crowds hung about the doors of the Mayor's Omice looking for a reform “plum,” Mr, Jacob J. Banta was fortunate to have friends who swore he was one of the finest men in the city, and the Mayor, on their recommendation, nominated him, with three others, for the office of Inspector of Weights and Measures, Among the others was & man named Thomas 8. Kent, and when all had been confirmed Banta and Kent were assigned to duty as inspectors for the First district of the city, Banta plumed himself slightly on his good fortune, and laid himself out for a good official time and a proper share of emolu- ments, He knocked around with commensurate dignity and told all whom he knew that he was, going to inspect things in style; he was going to have a horse and buggy and look after things ina business like way. The compensation for the duties of the office is derived from fees, The glory of the official honor and title of inspector seems to have lasted some time with Banta, for he COULDN'T GET DOWN TO HIS WORK during the warm months of Juue and July, but he tackled business some weeks ago. He found to hia horror that there was comparatively little work to be done. Kent, who didn’t want a buggy to go ground with and who is evidently an energetio sort.of man, had inspected the whole district within a few weeks atter his appointment,, and as he had done the work he of course had collected the proper fees therefor. Banta wanted some fees, too, 80 he rigged hiinseif property and went the rounds of the district in- Specting things again and taking fees, too, When people said they had atready had their weights and measures inspected Banta said they had been imposed upon and that the Inspector whom they had seen was a fraud. Then the real Simon Pure, Banta himself, would inspect, and to convince the people that he was the legal Inspector, he charged in some cases double or treble the fee which the ‘“draud’” Inspector had charged. Moreover, he went to the Mayor’e OMice once or twice aud denounced the other Inspector as being a delusion, and a humbug in his way of doing business. Then somebody went and complained to the Mayor about Banta, and the Mayor invited Banta to COME AND SEE HIM, and Banta, anticipating much consolation, went, and the Mayor spoke to him yestercay morning in this wise :— “Good morning, Mr, Banta! Whatis this trouble? What do these Warns be against you imply?’ Banta dido’t understand the allusion, and the or explained, Ma; “They are trumped up charges to injure me. This whole affair is a put-up job,” was the reply. “Who put up this job on paper!” asked the Mayor, and he handed to Banta for examination hali a dozeu formal receipts on printed slips, with Banta’s own signature for the receipt of fees. Ban- ta weakened instanutaucously, and then said some- thing avout courting a tu/l investigation. There is no appropriation, however, with which to organize acourt. The Mayor thought he was court enough, and, after a little further conversation, he awarded Banta the following DIPLOMA TO TRAVEL ON: — Crry Haus, Execorive Devarturns, New Yor, Aucust 24 157%" Nr. Jaco J. Banta :— —Take notice thal, in consequence of complaints preferred against you for exacting fees from merchants and others tor inspecting oir Weights and res alter fees for the same services had already been once collected by an authorized Inspector, and such com: plaints having been veritied by the production of your signed receipts, Lhave this day removed you trom the office of Inspector of Weights and Measures for the First district of the elty of New York, and your office is hereby declared vacant W. Ff. HAVEMEYER, Mayor, In the course of the interview His Honor gave Banta to understand that, as an oficial, he had proves hinself tobe “a standing nuisance,” and e didn’t Wantany more truck with him. Banta will probably abandon the reform party this ial) and pronounce it a fraud. THE “CITY RECORD.” Ameeting of the City Kecord Board was held yesterday in the Mayor's O:tice; present, the Mayor, the Corporation Counsel and the Commissioner ot Public Works. Commissioner Van Nort brougnt before the Board the question of the stationery contract and supply, which was the subject of bis letter to the Mayor, already published 4 lew days ago. He stated that ke had addressed three sev- eral communications to the Comptroller upon the subject, with aview of ascertaining the amount unexpended of the appropriation of $25,000, upon which he might draw. The resolution originali, adopted permitted the Departments of Law, Fi- nance and Public Works to draw for themselves upon the appropriation, and al! other departments drew for their supplies upon the latter depart ment. He had received no repiy, however, to lita communications, and the colsequence was that there was GREAT EMBARRASSMENT. The resolation aiter some discussion was re- peaied, and the rule requiring all departments, tn- ciuding Law and Finance, to draw upon Commis: sioner Van Nort was declared to be in ful) torce, A communication was received from Colonel Pinckney, Clerk of the Common Counell, setting torth substantially that there was no appropnation for the printing required to be done jor the Coun cli, and stating that a little over $8,000 Lad been already expended, or bad become due for work done when the appropriation of that sum was made. He taerefore desired that some provision be made for the printing for the balance of the year. : The communication was referred to the Mayor aa a member of the Board of Estimate and Apportion- ment, with power, THE HIDDEN “NIGGER” UNEARTHED. It will be remembered that there was considera- bie surprise expressed when the eggtract for print ing the City Record was wwardedg, that the con- tractor, P. W. Rhodes, should uave stipulated toda the work at less than ordinary rates. The reason became apparent yesterday, when Mr. Rhodes ap- peared before the Board and asked its authoriza, tion permitting him to publish in the Record such advertisements as Surrogate’s notices, Sherif’s sales, orders and notices, legal notices, summonses, &c. He based his claim on the provision of section 3, chapter 758, Lays ot 1873 yd od Ca to the charter), which sa: “Nothing contained in section 3 of chapter 355, Laws of 1873, stall prevent the publication of any advertisement required by law; provided, how: ever, that no such publication shail be made uniesa the same is authorized by a concurrent vote of the Mayor, Corporation Counsel and Commissioner of Public Works.” Mr. Rhodes stated that he had met with MUCH OPPOSITION from Supervisor Disbecker in this matter, and he presumed there had been an- arrangemeut of some sort made on behalf of other party, Commissioner Van Nort that that insinuation implied that this Board desired to act unfairly, Mr. Rhodes denied intending to make any such insinuation, Super- visor Disbecker then cited sections of the charter and showed that such publication could not be made under the law, and that these sections were 80 modified and harmonized originally to defeas Just such a plan as this proposed. He Said he was present at Xibany when these various measures were discussed and framed, and knew the intent of the framers ag well as the meaning of the letter of the law, He closed by stating that such adver- tisements a3 the printer wished to publish were not “oficial” in the sense contemplated or expressed by the law, and claimed that fc was. mantiestly improper that the city a place itself in competition with the city iar’ advertising medinms and Ue other, matters than its own oficial proceedings and re- cetvepay therefor. The Mayor said that even if thes@ advertisements were received and inserted he did not understand how Rhodes, who is the printer and not the publisher of the paper, could feceive more than the contract price per thousand “ema” for his actual printing. receive the fuil rates of these “ads” as he proposed would make him et of the paper, 80 far as they were concerned. The matter was finally referred to the Corpora. tion Counsel for his opinion, which means tet though Mr. Rnodes’ little negro has been out of he fence he will die euatoral death from the copsequent exposure,

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