The New York Herald Newspaper, April 1, 1873, Page 5

‘< PI 2 Myers, id the following conversation ensued :— NEW YORK HERALD, TUESDAY, APRIL 1, 1873—QUADRUPLE SHEEY. ‘BIE DETECTIVE DILEMMA. Brooklyn’s “Hawkshaws” and the Goodrich Murder Mystery. THE HUNT FOR ROSCOE Arrest of a Black-Haired Spaniard-—A Light-Haired Gentleman Wanted. ANOTHER QUARREL WITH ROSCOE “I Have a Pistol, Too’—Chief Campbell on the Trail of “‘Hash”—How Roscoe Got His Face Slapped—No Quarrel, as Alleged, in the Stanton Street House—The Inquest To- * Day—Lucette’s Father Visits Her. ‘There was nothing new to report in the Goodrich murder case yesterday. ‘No recent developments whatever,” remarked the Chiet of the Police force ef Brooklyn, when questioned. Meanwhile the public interest remams unabated, and the thirst Miter something new in the matter grows more ardent each day. The telegram description of Roscoe, the Spaniard, who is suspected by Mrs. Lacette J. Myers to have shot Charles Goodrich, ‘which was sent to every police central ofice in the country, requesting the authorities to arrest the man, remains as yet unanswered. The search for Kate Stoddard, mistress of deceased, continues to be prosecuted, but with fndifferent success, it would appear. The “inquest will be resumed at eleven o'clock this “forenoon, before Coroner Whitehill, in the County Court room, which has been chosen on account of its capacity to accommodate the large number of spectators which the session will attract. It is ‘understood that Mrs. Myers will be called to testify eh the witness stand to-day with regard to the @espatch sent to Baltimore last week giving a Gescription of Roscoe, which.was published on Sun-+ “Way, and formed the basis of a bogus account of @me murder given in one of the weekly papers, hief Campbell remarked that “ifthe Chief of the Baltimore police sent such a despatch as that to me I should féel it my duty to tell the de- tectives of it and nobody else.” He re- @retted very much the publication of that mame—Roscoe; he did not know the Christian mame of the man. She said she did not know it. ‘The Chief declined to give any reasons for not giv- ing a description of the suspected Spaniard. An error occurred in the statement of District Attor- ney Britton—published yesterday—regarding the admissions of the woman Lucette Myers, now in custody. The prisoner stated to Mr. Britton that the deceased had a dificulty on one occasion with Roscoe and that she separated the two men. This @imMculty occurred at her own house, in New York, and not at Mr. Goodrich’s house, in Degraw street, * Brooklyn, as was stated in these columns yester- msi ROSCOE THREATENS GOODRICH. Mr. Britton further remarked to a reporter of the HERALD yesterday that Lucette told him that she heard Roscoe threaten woodrich, and that she told the latter that ROSCOR OARRIED A PISTOL ‘and would kill him if he did not take care of him- Self, Mr, Goodrich thereupon made the reply. “Well, I’ve got a pistol too.” ANOTHER ARREST, At about half-past four o’clock yesterday after- moon, arusty hack with the shades drawn down stopped at the police central office, corner of Court and Livingston streets. The horses had been driven very rapidly and were greatiy heated, de- Spite the coldness of the atmosphere, The door of the hack was thrown violently open and Detective Videto jumped out. He was followed by another party, a man nearly six feet di height, and wearing a dark suit and a round crowned black hat. The two entered the building and at once repaired to the private office of Chief Campbell, who was preparing to go home. Videto ‘nd the stranger were not in the Chief's office more than five minutes, when the stranger emerged and went down stairs to the street. * He glanced rapidly about him and then advancing to the carriage hastily opened the door and ‘whispered to somebody inside. A stoutly bullt, rubicund-visaged man immediately stepped out and was followed by a wiry, young man, evidently 4 SPANIARD, WHO WAS CLOSELY HANDOUFFED. The prisoner—for such he was—was about thirty years of age, five feet seven inches in height, and had a dark, piercing eye, which flashed angrily as he crosseU from the carriage to the office door. He had curly black hair, which was rather unkempt, and a moustache and goatee of the same hue. He ‘was neatly attired ina business suit of dark-blue cloth, and worean Astrakhan cap. As he passed into the office he was closely watched by the other two men, whe hurried him into the Chief's office. arrival was comparatively unnoticed, there ‘being but few persons insthe vicinity. The whole party remained closeted in the office until about six o’clock, when the prisoner and the two strangers, who were unquestionably officers, returned to the carriage. It was noticed that the mer was not handcuffed at this time. He wirled a newspaper in his right hand and ap- ve to be very nervous. ie trio quickly en- the carriage, the door was shut with a slam, the curtains were drawn down and the coachman, red-faced, seedy-looking individual, whipped u; the Hage, which started at arattling pace up Court Koma ward the City Hall, and were soon out of As soon as the carrit had taken its departure, the representative of the HERALD re-entered the Central Oitice, and went into the apartment of the don’t know, 2m sure,’ and after a minute she said, ‘Wi I saw that man Roscoe.’ We didn’t care hear about him, and so I any more “oh, w, is that all—did he see you?’ and ‘No, he didn’t see me, and I didn’t son 3 le was using out! language aman he was quarreling with is the street, and 1 burried right aloug. and he didn’t see me.’ That ‘Was ail that was that I remember.” “From what was said by Lucette did vou under- stand that the men were quarrelling close to where you lived?” “I really don’t remember that she said where it was she saw them, but from what was said and fay sae seid it, I kind o’ thought they must in the street somewhere not {ar from the wi have been “the house. 7) ROSCOR GETS Surman, “Did this man ae tet appear f pay any at- tention to your “Well, I don’t know. 1 thi he liked her some, but she didn’t like him. She him, because those you know are treacherous men. He wal oe wouldn’t have him come, wanted her to turn away McCord (the mason who boarded with us) and Bernard Barnett, the ‘lishman, and give him the room they had, but sne didn’t want Roscoe about the house and wouldn’t do it. Barnett went to England, but I don’t know where McCord is now.’ “Did Barnett pay her any unusual attentions?” “No. He wanted to, but he was man who didn’t get along at all. He. was unfortan: He wned everythii ad and couldn’t p: his Boarae She didn’t like him, because she slapped his face once. He came ‘pawing’ abeut her one day and she told him to mind his business, and he didn't, and so she slapped him.” Fee Re 1 eta “Have you heard anything from Lucet “Oh, Pie Mr. Hubbell was over to-day to Brook. lyn, an they let nim into the prison te see ner.” “Yes,” ini wverpolated the old man, who was sit- ting by the table. “I to see her to-day. They let me in. She looks and doesn’t pear very downhearted now. She told me to tell her mother she'd be home to-morrow (Tuesday) night.” “But Pm afraid they won't lether come,” said the old lady. ‘Poor girl, she wants to tell us that, and I 8’ she hopes £0,008 I think some- times people ll me she’ll be Home soon just to quiet me. ees “Do they treat her well, Mr. Hubbell?’ asked the re) Pre “Yes, yes, she’s well treated,’ responded the feeble old man; “she hed a table full of food and said ney were kind to her. Mother put her up some more clothes ina bundie and I took them over to her, so that if they take her to court to-morrow morning she can look decently dressed. Her law- yer was there ai the same I was there,” “Have you had many caliers to-day?” “No, not many to-day; but we’ve found some good friends, who have promised to help us. I shall pay rent to-morrow,” continued the old lady, “and I don’t think the landlady will put us out if reper, the rent, Lar acl “I hardly think so,” replied the reporter, and, with a few more remarks ef no public interest, the interview closed, and the two grandfolks and their duo of grandchildren were left alone, with the old ae bustitug abeut to prepare supper. e reporter also called at the house 13 Stanton street, where Mrs. Myers, alias Armstrong, kept boarders before she went to live in Rivington street. Mrs. Schwartz is the housekeeper in this tenement house and knows a good deal about the Hubbells and their daughter. This lady lives on the second floor, in @ small front room. Sne at first seemed very unwilling to give an: information, and expressed a tear that if she did so she would be arrested and locked up in the Brooklyn Jail. She said she could not thus be separated from her family of small children, The reporter sherenncn assured her that there was no danger of her being arrested as it was very clear she had nothing to do with the case in any criminal manner, and all that was sought to be obtained was a knowledge of the doings of the family while in her house. It had been stated that it was kere that two men met in the rooms occu- pied by Mrs. Myers and had an altercation there, when Mrs. Myers said, ‘Go in that soom, Charley.” Mrs, Schwartz said that about four months before Mrs. Armstrong (she went by that name in the house) had come and engaged four rooms on the fourth floor at @ rental of $17 per month. She stated that at the time it was Mra. Armstrong’s in- tention to keep boarders. She advertised for board- ers and jt two, the Englishman, Barney Barnett (who since returned to England she under- stood), and the mason MeCard. At the time Mrs. Armetrong did not do any other work. On the rent which the two men paid Mrs. trong at- tempted to pay her own renta! and to keep not uly, herself and her boarders but also her father and mother and the twochildren. She tried very hard to get some other boarders, but did not suc- ceed. It soon became erate that the thing would not work, and r the first month she could not pay her rent, She then sent away the only boarder wno paid his board Depry because, she told him, she could not get for the family and feed him decently on what he paid. When he left she had nothing at all, and used to go out to work every day, a8 she said, making shirts, on the corner of Grand and Allen or Eldridge street, she did not know which. But at the end of tne second month she not been able to pay the Trent, and lett, 07 $27. The reporter questioned Mra, Schwartz as to the D. alleged meeting of two the rooms SIF Srarfoe ra Topas Seas which was said to have taken place. this point” MRS. SCHWARTZ WAS INCLINED 'TO BE VERY SILENT. She ony teeth that two strange men, both well dressed, had been seen in Mrs. Armstrong’s room. They were not the boarders. They were not there together, but at an interval ot two weeks apart. Then, of course, it was impossible that these two men ceuld have an altercation together in the house. No sounds of any altercation were ever heard coming from Mrs. Armstrong's rooms by the other residents in the building. Mrs. Schwartz could not identify these men if she saw them. Their faces were on each occasion partly concealed in the newspapers they were reading. She did not know that either of them were Goodrich er Roscoe, but they were evidently men of some respectability, if their clothes were any critérion. The lady went on to say that everybody in the house was glad when Mrs. Armstrong leit, and particularly so now that this trouble had come up. The reporter saw several other people in the house, who corroborated Mra. Schwartz's state- ment that there had been no altercation in the house. They said they had found the family a quiet one and noticed nothing peculiar about them. During the whole time Mrs, Armstrong lived there the old people lived with her. No third man an- swering Roscoe’s description ever lived with them. The reporter subsequently visited all the shirt Stores and shirt manufactories around Grand, Allen and Eldridge streets, but in none of them head any woman of the name of Myers or Arm- strong ever worked. It is evident she gave a wrong address of the place in which she worked betore she went to sew for the Levy family. LATEST ABOUT THE ARREST. At a late hour last night it was developed that the Spaniard whose arrest is alluded to above was captured yesterday in this city Oy Detectives Wall- ing and iden and taken to art He was bad a ttt brought back to New on and of course discharged, His name is Francisco Carlos Delza. . RELIEF FOR THE HUBBELL FAMILY. [Re ENN To THE Eprror oF Tae HERALD:— For the Hubbell family—Lucette Myers—please find the following subscriptions :— Omef of Police, Several other reporters who wer in toe atiding ‘at the moment also called upon Mr. ». WHAT CHIRF CAMPBELL CAPTURED, . * The official was ap) hed with the remark: lesirous of learning Mh copa eustody of the detectives, is the man ‘44 ‘whom the police have been looking?” _ “1am angry, goamuman, 1 re you, and am Le ome to supper,’ replied the oMcial, wen “But who is the man, Chief 1” “1 can’t tell you. haven't anything to tell pe a Nace pg avec ri him’ pa ou (exc! ° ve nothing tell you.” . ps A.N.M... M. ++ $2 00 +» 500 One from Elisabeth. Exizasera, N. J., March $1, 1873, {fo rue Eprror oF Tax HERA! a Enclosed I hand you $1, Please forward to Mrs. Hubbell, 46 Rivington ‘treet, whose only means of be now lies in jail, awaiting examination, and GEORGE M. Two from “32.” New Yor«, March 31, 1873. To THE EDITOR OF THE HERALD:— The Chief of the Brooklyn force then made a hur- ried exit from the building, leaving the writers for ress rather unfavorably impressed with re- ‘spect to his familiarity with common coartesy. NOT ROSCOR, It was subsequently ascertained by a HERALD reporter that the man in question could not have been Leah! the tei al ee Spaniard. The reporter yesie! le #2 upon Mrs, Hubbell, the mother of the woman Lncette Please find enclosed $2 for the Hubbell family. Yours, “92,11 Two Dollars as a “Widow's Mite.” To THe Epiror oF THE HERALD :— . Seeing the account (from your correspondent of the HeRAuD) of that old father and mother, Mr. and Mrs, Hubbell, and two little children supported “Do Temember the man, who is said raniis facranee Rershaneerc ee the e youl Fat anything about him to particular, forl tell i mever saw him but once, and that was but fer a moment in the passage, while Lucette was looking a the _ to dog = fm the front a ni only came ase two or thre Sines, ‘or he was a kind of hot tern q red man and - Lucette was afraid of him. She didn’t like him, “are you sure his name was Roscoe or was it a ame something like that 1” “No, Roscoe was the name. Quite a number of people has asked me that question, for you sée that not a Spanish name, they tell me.”’ “It isnot a Spanish name. But do you remem- Lg anything of his personal appearance!” rejoined reporter. “Well, Idon’t. AsItold you I never saw him ‘but for a moment, but he had light hair. That Spanish gentleman here to-day asking soout aime ere 10. asl and when 1 told him that Roscoe was a fair-haire man ho said, ‘Well, I am @ Spaniard and I have fair Bair,’ and so he had.”’ ar therefore, settles the fact that the black man who was handcuifed and takeu toChief = office yesterday could not have been ANOTHER QUARREL, Continuing the conversation the reporter asked— “about what time was it that Roscoe called upon Jour daughter 9’ “Well, as near as I can remember, the last time Theard her speak about him was one night about five weeks ago. It was just before we moved into this houre, id that was the ist of March, She came into the house one aigii( and had about three aozen shirts with her to finish, and when. she a Stairs she sat down, out of breath, and 4 } Who do you taink I saw just pow?’ by a daughter, now incarcerated in Raymond ‘Jail, my heart has gone out towards them in 8 athy for their helplessness and necessity. ily ju accept the enclosed $2 only, the ‘‘widew'’s mite” towards a fund which I hope the benevolent will raise for them and see it appropriated? ‘ Five More from Sympathy. New Yor«, March 30, 1873. To THE EpiTor OF THE HERALD:— The enclosed $5 is for the Hubbel! family. SYMPATHY. 4 Poor Man’s Two Dollars. Newark, N. J., March 31, 1873, To TH® Eprror Or Toe HeratD:— Enclosed please find $2 for the unfortunate Hub- bell . Iwish I could afford to send them more. Yours, &c., A POOR MAN, Five Dollars and = Short Note. New Yore, March 30, 1873, tao! Eptror oF THe HERALD:— nclosed find - Myers family. $6 for the unfortunate bss ga Twenty-five Dollars and an Opinion. METROPOLITAN Horst, March 30, 1873, To rag Epitos of Tus HeRaLp:— Will you permit me to say through your valuable columne that I theroughly agree with ‘one who wishes he could do more, and jion and his mite to ea Or the opin 7 n poor old a Mrs. Hubbel 46 Re pirees, with whom I deeply sympathize. set example that it I, for on ih to follow, and MH ou to place iné encioned $8 to te Int and omy ope it will save that kind-hearted landlady ti rouble of going up stairs again until she hears a Nttle voice exclaim in shouts of joy, “Dear mamma tiscrsiane mn te dar | WA SHING TON —- a Cam Lucette Mycrs be Visited by Her Friends. To THE EDITOR OF THE HERALD:— Srn—Will you please let tight into the Raymond Street Jail, Brooklyn, which holds the woman, My- era, a8 a witness, and bara out all relatives, friends, &c., from seeing her except the inquisitorial of- ficers who are incubating this poor and acknowl- edged innocent woman, into hatching for them some clue whereby they can by hook or by crook get the $2,500 reward offered for the discovery of the murderer of Goodrich, Dr. Cuyler’s “Saint.” st was my mission to bear to her to-day impertant as Well as sympathetic words from her parents and friends, andwhat do you think [ got for iuy labor of Jove and bhumanity—a fat refusal from District Attorney Britton as well as from his subordinates, to enter even the prison for any such purpose, Now, Mr. Editor, can the officers prevent the friends ef that suifering woman from seeing and speaking to her and not place themselves in anes sition to the laws ofour ceuntry. Attorney Brit- ton told me himself that he was Raitines bee cals as & witness, Must innocent persons be incarcerated in an abomafable prison of filth and disease and set upon, unprotected and alone, by all the leaches of the law and hadgered until her weeping heart and crazed brain is at the complete mercy of these sharks? Is this the way te seek out the criminal, or is it only the cloak to delay in time and set the an on the wrong scent? If this be law, then d deliver us from it and keep our mouths for- ever closed as to any crime of whick we may be conizant. Iwill see the woman to-morrow or we will learn that the poor have no rights under the law which the executors thereof are bound to respect. Yours, for justice, SHILOAH, FALLACY OF IRON CRUISERS FOR THE i WAVY. pL Se pelea fo THE EDITOR OF THE HERALD:— An article in one of your contemporaries (a gov- ernment organ) of the 18th of February was in- tended to prepare the public mind for the an- nouncement thats portion of the eight sloops-of- war authorized by Congress would be bulit of iron, Your Washington correspondent and also seve eral other journals have since informed the public that the Navy Department has determined to bul!d three iron vessels and five wooden ones; but as the hulls have not yet been laid it is not too late to re- cede from such a suicidal course for the navy. The article referred to declares that ‘the demand for tron ships seems to growin favor.’ * * * For mercantile purposes I admit that there is a growing demand for ships, and as tron ships are cheaper than wooden ones in one sense the paper referred to is correct. Wood must be seasoned before it is proper ship timber; this takes time, but iron can be bent to the form required before it is cold from the puddling mill, or within a few hours after it is taken from the mines, and this is the cause of the cheapness over wood. Iron is abun- dant, but good ship timber grows scarce. Any merchant who desires his goods delivered in good order will take a wooden ship in preference toan iron one, and as for fine lines they can as readily be made of wood asot iron. Therefore 1 repeat that the growing demand 1s not for tron ships, but for ships of any material to accommodate the in- creasing trade of the world, The metallic hulls can be more rapidly and cheaply constructed than wooden ones and mer- chants are forced to ship in iron hulls, but the Custom House books could reveal a fearful list of damaged cases brought to this country in those same tron vessels, The superiority of wood over iron for safety, buoyancy and all that is desirable in a ship has been fully discussed and proved during the past Jew years and I will not argue that point, but when the writer referred to states that ‘the uniferm ex- ipenente of all navies indicate very conclusively he superiority of iron ships’? I am forced to the conclusion that he knows nothing about the navies of the world. It was difficult in the discussion of the Eight- Sloop bill for members of Congress to distinguish between iron ships and armored ships, yet therein lies the whole argument. An armored ship is one plated with iron from four to fourteen inches thick, constructed to resist projectiles thrown from guns of large calibre. They were first built of wood, with the iron bolted to thick wooden pack- ing; but when wood and iron are brought in contact in this way the wood rota and the a ld consequently armored Lig have built entirely of fron, which removes this de- fect. Aniron ship has no points in common with an armored one. ‘he former are lightly constructed tocarry passengers and freight, with plates ranging from an inch to a quarter of an inch in thickness, In shpe and outlines they so closely resemble a wooden vessel that ihe rence can scar be detected. It is this Kind Of ship that It'ls proposed to rain the Navy with—a vessel that no nation has yet Nein to introduce as a naval cruising vessel England, France and Russia, and may be other European Powers, have- small despatch boats and troop ships built of iron, but we have yet to see a war ship of one-half inch iron. The effective ves- sels of war in all navies are armored rue eee “tin-clads,”” as the writer would lead the public to believe. ee with him the statement that this class of iron vessel does not require the repairs that wooden ships would, and the reason is ebvi- ous—when they come in contact with any unyield- ing substance they go down. They disappear be- yond the possible reach of re} Upwards o1 sixty have already demonstrat that fact this year. No wonder that shipbuilding is lively on the Clyde; for something must be constructed at once to make up this loss to the carrying trade. article referred to mentions some hastily-con- structed white oak and weod and iron ships to il- lustrate the superiority spoken of; but why not eak of the Vandalia, lately broken up—a live-oak ship—that was as sound as when built, and requir- ing as many tools to break her up as jt did to build her, although her keel was laid thirty years ago? He informs us that @ wooden vessel was put on the ways for repairs, and although she was as free from and rotten timber as when she was built, yet ‘the cinders and scori@ falling from her furnaces be- tween the timbers under the engines, and kept in motion by the rolling of the ship, had worn grooves and gashes in the bottom or outside planking which had nearly cut her in two.’ What a confession for @ writer on naval con- struction to make! One who Brefers wood to iron, too! In the first place, to allow holes for such refuse to ge through was culpable negligence and ignorance ; and, in the second place, the same would ppen to an iron hull under the same circum- stances, It has on former occasions been shown that the Hatteras and other iron vessels that were pur- chased during the war were either sank or badly damaged by shot, and it stands recorded that an armored vessel, built for the Italian government in this country, now remains, beyond repairs, sunk Wa old-fashioned teak-built frigate turned into a amer, The wi in vessel bore down upon her tron antagonist, striking her amidships, and in @ few minutes the costly fabric went her last Testing place, and the old went back to port not very seriously le OLD SALT, A GROWLER’S END. Sad End of a Man Addicted to Imitating Dogs when Drunk=Shot by a Friend in the Dark, ¢ ” Lovrsvii18, Ky., March 81, 1873, One dark night in November last Davia Bailey was shot and killed by a young householder in Bath county, Kentucky, named George Shrout. Shrout was indicted for murder in the first degree, but the trial, which has just been concluded in the Bath Circuit Court, resulted in his acquittal. From the evidence it appeared that Batley, when drunk, had a habit of growling like @ dog. On the night of the killing he had been drinking freely, wan dered out to the house of Shrout and endeavored to obtain admittance. Sbrout was awakened by the noise and came down to the door, taking his shotgun with him. Opening the front door he saw a dim object in the darkness, and, calling out to it, received no answer. He then gave waraing that he was about to shoot, but the object only replied by a series of Jond growls. Shrout then fired and was horrified to, hear the cries ofa liuman being. He seems to have been badly frightened, and without examin- ing farther locked the door and weut up stairs in. Bailey was mortally wottnded and lay roaning before the house until some aby rougkt bim back to town, where he died in a few hours. Shrout was arrésted next morning, At the trial & statement as above was given and sub- stantiated by the mother of the accused, Who was at the side of her son at the time. The jury brought in atonce a verdict of net guilty. The event created great excitement in the vicinity, a3 both parties were well known. Bailey left a wife and seven children. JUDGE SHERMAN. The Ohio Bar Association Considering a Resolution Asking the Judge to Resign His Position in the Federal Courts. >, CLEVELAND, Obto, March 31, 1873, The Clevéland Bar Association this atternoon considered the following resolution :— Reso! i\ by Judge ©, T. Shei we before the comamitie In ‘the recent investiga ton in Congrens, and letters admitted by, him to mn se farpitude isto destroy al coun ce im imigietration and require that he should at once resign relieve the federal court from the embarrassment consequent upon his continued occupancy of the judgship. the resolation was Lape dst in , Sherman an op; unity to com- to te With the, Association, and such moral his jadicial ade The Rio Grande Troubles Explained by the Mexican Minister. More Red Children for the Creat Father. THREE PER CENTS CALLED IN. The Operation of the New Coin- age Act Explained. HENRY WILSON SOORNS BAOK PAY. Farther Concerning the Bark Mary Celeste--- The Government and the Pacific Railroads, Wasninator, March 31, 1873, Our Dificalties with Mexico—Interview with Minister Mariscal—The Kicka- poos Te Be Given to the Great Father. The adjustment of our difficulties with Mexico is now the most important matter under the con- sideration of the State Department. Your cer- respondent had a pleasant conversation to-day on this subject with Mr. Mariscal, the courteous and able Minister of Mexico, an account of which may not prove uninteresting to the readers of the Her- ALD, It was as follows:— CORRESPONDENT —I understand that the American Commissioners who have been investigating the Mexican outrages on the Rio Grande are expected back ina few days. Has the Commission appointed by yeur government for the same object arrived at any satisfactory conclusion? Mr. MARISCAL—I do not know whether the Mext- can Commissioners have finished their labors, but this I know—that they have arrived at tne conclu- sion that nearly all the cattle stealing and other depredations on the American side of the Rio Grande were committed by Kickapoo Indians, who do not belong to Mexico, but are part of a tribe now living in the Indian Territory. These Kicka- poos took refuge en the Mexican side during your civil war, when the Confederates tried to compel them to fight against the Union forces. They re- fused, and for this many of them were hunted down and killed. Others fled across the Rio Grande to Mexico, where they have been behaving themselves well enough as far as the Mexican au- thorities are concerned. They have confined their depredations to the American aide. Under cover of the night they would steal across the Rio Grande, take all the cattle they could lay hands on and them recross with their booty in the same stealthy manner. Of course they would dispose of the stolen cattle on the Mexican side; butt was almost impossible to Prevent this, for the stolen cattle cannot be dis- tinguished from any other. If these raids had been made by our own citizens we would be held answerable for them; but a government can only be held responsible to a limited extent for the acts of savages living in its territory and committing depredations in a neighboring country. CORRESPONDENT—And possibly your government may repudiate all responsibility for these outrages on the plea that they were committed by American Indians? Mr. MaRIscaAL—That may be. There is a grave doubt on this subject. But undoubtedly the whole matter will be settled in an amicable way. And here I may tell you as a piece of news that negetia- tions are now going on between the two govern- ments for the transfer ef those Kickapoos to the Indian Territory, where the remainder of that trite io now settled. ‘Wie United States have ipitiated the matter, and the Mexican government is in favor of it, provided the Kickapoos consent to leave. Negetiations to that effect were com- menced apout two years age, but were interrupted by the revolution, and are new resumed, The Mexican government will try to persuade the Kickapoos to return to their tribe on the American side. Of course we shall not force them, though we shall hold out every inducement for them to do 80. It will perhaps be a dificult task to accomplish, for these Kickapoos have a lively remembrance of their treatment by the Confederates, and on that account mistrust all Americans indiscriminately, CORRESPONDENT—Thus their revanche has been cattle-stealing? Mr. Mariscal (laughingly)—Well, there is some- thing of poetic justice in it, Probably tae best thing weuld be to induce them to send a delega- tion to the Indian Territory, se that they might see with their own eyes the condition of their Kicka- poo brethren on the American side and renew the associations of “auld lang syne.’’ CORRESPONDENT—But have not years of separa- tion so estranged these two branches of the tribe as to render them unintelligible to one another? Each side now probably speaks a different dialect of the Kickapoo language. Mr. MaRiscal—That is very likely, particulary on account of the admixture of Spanish on one side and English on the other. (Smilingly)—But let us hope that the difference of dialect will not preve an insurmountable barrier to their reunien. CORRESPONDENT—I suppose the Mexican Con- gress will soon ratify the convention prolonging the Mexican Claims Commission? Mr. MaRiscaL—As son as our Congress meets, whica willbe on April 1, the snbject will come under its consideration, and there is no doubt that the prolongation of the convention will be ap- proved. It has been erronneously stated in the American papers that the Mexican Congress had alrearly met on the 20th March. That was not a regular meeting, but only a caucus which always precedes the formal opening of Congress on April 1. CORRESPONDENT—Who will be the members of the Mexican Claims Commission under the pro- longed conventien ? Mr. Manrsgar—On the Mexican side Mr. Guzman will probably be replaced by Mr. Aspiros, who acted as counsel for the Mexican government during the absense of Mr. Caleb Cushing at Geneva. I suppose the American Cemmissioner will be reappointed. ‘The two Commissioners will then choose anew ‘umpire, as Dr. Lieber, who held tnat place, is dead. Mr. Cushing has resumed his position as copnsel for the Mexican government against the American claimants, Operation of the New Coinage Act—A Valuable Circular trom the Director General of the Mint. The Treasury Department will to-morrow issue regulations for the receipt and disbursement of the coin of the United States under the provisions of the Coinage act of 1873, and which will be of the greatest importance to the importers and brokers of-New York and other large cities. The four- teenth section of the act is as follows :— SECTION 14.—That the gold coins of the United States shall be a one ep aye which, at the standard weight of 25 8-10 grains, shail be the unit of value; a quarter-eagie or two and a half-doliar jlece, & three dollar piece, a haif-eagie or five dol- jece, an eagle or ten dollar piece and a double dollar piece, the f the geld dollar shall uarter eagle or 4% grains; of the of the two and @ half dollar piece, three doliar piece, 77 4-10 Vf of the half eagle or ten doliar piece, 268 efthe double eagie or twenty dollar piece, 616 f ing; which ins shail be @ legal tender in all payments at their nominal value when not below the standard weight and limit of tolerance provided in this act for the ae piece; and when reduced in weight below said standard and tolerance shail be a legal tender at valuation in proportion to their actual weight. Amd any gold coin of the United States, if reduced in hob yp) ‘by naturai abrasion not more tian ope-half of one per cent below the standard weight ribed by Jaw after a circulation of twenty aa shown by its date of coinage, and at a ratable detortan for any period jess than prenty tania be recelved at their nomimalvalue by the Uni States Treasury and its om under such regulations as the Secretary ef the ‘Treasury may prescribe for the pretection of mee ons or other [adele tp ist fraudulent practices, any gold coins im the Treasury of the United States reduced m weight below this Mmit of abrasion shali be recoined. Dr. Linderman, the Chief Director of the Mint, who officially enters upon his duties to-morrow, has also prepared a circular for the guidance of public oMcers and others, showing the standard and least current legal weight of all gold coins of the United States, in single pieces and quantities of one hundred, five hundred, one snd five thou- sand dollars, with due reference to the date of coinage, which are made legal tender at their nominal value, and which may be received as such. The section above quoted has been found by Treasury oMcials to be seriously detective, and a safe construction of these provisions will not per- mit the indiscriminate receipt by customs officers and others at a valuation in ‘proportion to their Weight of coins which fall below'the legal weight and tolerance, with due reference to the dates of coinage, and yet such coins are made a legal ten- der at such avaluation. All customs officers will be directed to receive them, when presented in Payment of public dues, giving only a conditional receipt therefor, showing their nominal and esti- mated value in the aggregate ; and alter registering the amount in a book to be kept for that purpose, forwarding it to the United States Mint at Philadel- phia or San Francisco, whichever is most conven- lent, with a statement to the person from whom and on what account the coin was received. Upon their receipt the Superintendent of the Mint will at once ascertain their true value, and deposit from the bullion fund of their offices with the United States Assistant Tfeasurers in New York or San Francisco, in the name ef the oificer forward- ing the coin, and on account of the proper source, an amount equal to such value of coins of legal weight, forwarding the entire sets of certificates of deposit to be issued by the Assistant Treasurers in duplicate to tht customs official by whom the gold was forwarded. The depreciated coin wi!! take the place in the bullion funa of that depos- ited and to be recoined at the earliest practicable moment. Upon the receipt of the certificates of deposit the original will be disposed of as usual and the duplicate handed to the person who paid the coin. In receiving coin of this description the Secre- tary of the Treasury directs that Customs officers willin no case allow importations to be withdrawn until the certificates of deposit therefor shall have reached them. No cein of less than the least cur- rent weight will hereafter be permitted to be dis- bursed by any government officer. Assistant Treasurer Hillhouse has been instructed to assort and separate light coin, and hereafter to make no coin disbursements except with new coin and such as is of unquestionable legal weight. Chief Director Linderman advises merchants in his forth- coming circular to purchase only $20 gold pieces, as they are all within the legal weight, while the annoyance as well as possible loss of perishable cargoes will compel import- ers to be certain that the gold paid in is of the legal weight. The Department explains the stringency of the order as based upon the protec- tion of the Customs revenue, otherwise the “sweating process” could be resorted to with much profit to those whose business it is to di- minish the weight of coin. The circular of Dr. Linderman will be invaluable to brokers and ex- change dealers, containing, as & will, his valuable experience as director for many years of the Philadelphia Mint. How long it will take to’ex- exhaust the present coinage in circulation falling below the standard has not been calculated, Orders have been given, however, for providing every Custom House in the country with coin scales, and as far as possible the Department will endeavor to prevent unnecessary delay and incon- venience in enforcing the regulations made neces- sary by the recent act of Cengress. An Awful Snub to Smith. ‘The Smith family were iu the ascendancy with this administration until to-day. An Assistant Attorney General, the Supervising Inspector General of Steamboats, Commissioner of Indian Affairs and the Private Secretary of the Secretary of the Navy all rejoice in this ancient patronynile. It was a Virginia Smith whom the President “went back on.” He had been confirmed by the Senate as Collector of the Richmond districh baying served as Assessor for several years, was endorsed by Senator Lewis and Congressmen elect, but the President concluded to-day that the, present in- cumbent was as good an oMfcer as the-BéTvice need have, and declined to issues commission to the new appointee. This is the first time the President has weakened on a confirmation. Henry Wilson Returns His Back Pay. Vice President Wilson’s slumbers have been greatly disturbed by conscientious scruples on the subject of the Senatorial back pay, voted by Con- gress about twenty-four hours before his resigna- tion as a Senator. He has, therefore, resolved to wash his hands of the iniquity by returning the money. Headdressed, on the 27th inst., a letter te Treasurer Spinner, enclosing an order on the Secre- tary of the Senate for about four thousand four hun- dred dollars, the amount of the pack increase, less his mileage, with the instruction that it be appro- priated towards the payment of the national debt. Vice President Wilson, actuated by his usual modesty, requésted the Treasurer that the matter be kept a secret, and his injunction was strictly obeyed. Mr. Wilson can but illy spare such an amount, and this act of disinterestedness, done in an unostentatious manner, is, therefore, all the more commendable. The Government and the Pacific Ratl- roads. The Treasury Department, in withholding cer- tain moneys from the Union Pacific and Central railroads, is acting under the following provisions of a law of Congress:—The Secretary of the Treas- ury is directed to withhold all payments to any railroad company and its assignees on account of freights or transportation over their roads of any kind to the amount of the payments made by the United States for interest upon the bonds of the United States issued to any such company, and which shall not have been reimbursed, together with five per cent of the net earnings due and un- applied as provided by law. Any such company may bring suit inthe Court of Claims to recover the price of such freight, and in such suit the right of such company to recover the same upon the law and facts of the case shall be determined, and also the rights of the United States upon the mer- its of all the points presented by it in answer thereto by them, and either party to such suit may appeal to the Supreme Court, and both Courts shall give such cause or causes precedence of all other business. The Senate Committee on Transpor- tation had a meeting to-day and resolved to go to New York April 8, there to take the testimony of the railroad people on the postal car controversy. The committee did nothing beyond this to-day, but the energy with which it has gone about this busi- ness shows that it fully comprehends the great im- portance of this difficulty and is bent on finding a suitable remedy. Three Per Cents Called In. The Comptroller of Currency to-day notified the Secretary of the Treasury of the issue of $600,000 national bank notes during March, and the Secre- tary will to-morrow callin the balance of three per cent certificates remaining unpaid, which will finally complete the retirement of the whole of $45,000,000 of three per cents as provided in the act of July 12, 1870, which authorizes the issue of $54,000,000 of national bank notes, The Bark Mary Celeste. A letter was to-day received at the Treasury De- partment from W. H. Cobb, brother-in-law of Cap- tain Briggs, of the bark Mary Celeste, found aban- doned at sea, in which he says that the blood stains on the sword blade found on the deck of the vessel{were on the weapon when Captain Briggs gotit. He does not believe, as yet, there is any foundation for the hypothesis of mutiny, and thinks the other evidences of trouble may be, reasonably accounted for in other ways. This is the frst com- munication received at the department since the circular was issued a week ago. South Carolina Lands. Commissioner Douglass has sent a-civil engineer to South Carolina to complete the surveys of the lands for the direct taxes of the United States and authorized to be redeemed under certain condi- tions, in order that an accurate map may be made for the use of the internal revenue officer in mak- ing deeds, and for future ure in the event of legal Ly controversies growing out of the United Stateé Sales, as to boundaries and other titles, Important Treasury Deci: ‘The Secretary of the Treasury has deciaed that the act of Congress requiring collectors of customs, Previous to granting clearances of vessels, to col- lect all legal fees, does not refer to pilotage and half-pilotage fees levied under the laws of ang State, Internal Revenue Receipts. The comparative receipts of internal revenue for the six mouths ending January 31, 1872, and Janu- ary 31, 1873, show an increase in the latter on spirits of $2,617,902; fermented liquors, $690,234; penalties, $68,512, PANIC IN A CHURCH.’ A False Alarm and Its Consequences. ee eee reeeera EIGHTEEN PERSONS SERIOUSLY INJURED; Terrible Excitement in Trenton—The Fire Deq partment Tarns Out—A Mother Throws Her | Child from a Window and Jumps After It-A Mass of Human Beings Trampled Down—Obsequies of the Late Father Mackin. ‘The obseqnies of the late Father Mackin, pastor, of St. John’s church, Trenton, took place in thad church yesterday morning. Ten o’clock was thé hour appointed, but before that hour arrived the edifice was literally packed, The remains were dressed in sacerdotal robes and were exposed ta view in a rich casket, set on a catafalque. Around this casket filed the crowd that visited the church during the merning, and at ten o'clock hundreds were yet coming, The assistant pastor, Father Fitzsimmons, appeared on the altar at ten minute past ten and announced that as: the time had ard rived for the commencement of the ceremonies no more persons would be admitted to view tha remains, THE CATASTROPHE. A few minutes after this announcement a crash waa heard, followed by a cry on one side, ‘The gallery is falling!” and on another, ‘Fire! The scened which followed will never be forgotten, That which was @ dense mass ef devout and decorous humanity suddenly became a surging, moaning, yelling, furious throng. Old Ocean is never dis- turbed in his slumbers by.the most violent squall but some harbinger warns him of its approachy Here, on the contrary, the cause and the effecg were almost simultaneous, There was AN AWFUL SIGNIFICANCE . in this tumult. In the midst of it lay the lifelesd form of the pastor, who had passed the threshold of this life, and it seemed as if many of his beloved flock were about to*join .him in his eternal home. The terrors of tne grave stared hundreds of tha vast gathering in the face. In the wild excitement of the moment the hallowed precincts of the sance tuary were not respected, and the line which divides the priest from the laity was crossed by those of the congregation who despaired of fleeing the dreaded event by any other avenue of escape. THE PRIESTS RUSHED OUT from the sacristy, and while some ascended the altar and endeavored to quell the rising storny others exerted themselves in the aisles, by min< gling with the excited crowd, to calm the fears of those with whom they came in contact. But their efforts were unavailing. in less time than it takes to write these lines the surging mass, rushing out ‘at the main entrance, was trampling down women and children, and but little assistance could ba afforded from the outside, for the rush was irre~ sistible. From every window men and boys were jumping. The eries of those in the centre of tha church, who could not escape, were heartrending. Not even the presence ef DR. CORRIGAN, BISHOP ELECT, of New Jersey, could for one moment stay the anic. Down the steps leading from the main en- Trance to the sidewalk, people were being piled as fifa battery of grape and canister had suddenly Opened upon them. » A FIRE ALARM was sounded and the fire department turned out. The police force was also at hand, and here the suc- cor to the injured began. The helpless, fainty strate and bieeding creatures wh lives were bein, trampled out were take! uD and cal into houses adjoining the church, where medical attendance waa | ney tly obtained, some of the physicians having een in the neighborhood of the church when tha alarm was sounded. Only filteen minutes had passed simce the terrible scene commenced witm the cry “THB GALLERY IS FALLING!’ and now, after all, no gallery had fallen; there was no fire, the panic was well-nigh ended, the crowd on the street had swelled to thousands and eigh- teen human beings, gasping for breath, wera the sufferers by the false alarm, What was the cause of all this tumult and alt this suffering? The Lederer | of a seat ina pews nething more. But though the cause was now as- certained by nearly every member of the congrega~ tion and the church was half emptied, yet ior, nearly an hour those who remaimed inside tha building were beyond all control. THE INJURED PERSONS. Two daughters of Mr. Tissair, No. 78 Markets street, near Broad, severe internal injuries, Ong had several attacks of hysterics, which lested fog for more than two hours. ‘The wife of Mr. William Evans and her baby (tha latter two years old) ; both seriously injured. Mrs. Evans threw her child out of one of the gallery windows, and it was caught by a woman in her apron, yet the fall was so violent that one of tha child’s arms was broken and concussion of th brain ensued. The mother jumped down alter ii and fell so violently on the ground that ee Re = sicians have no hope of her recovery. The child ‘was reported to be dead at five o’cleck. Margaret Catison, slightly. Annie Roche, sligh Maggie Mullally, Barnes street, seriously. She remained unconscious for several hours. . Bridget Clark, seyenty-eight years oid, 84 Cooper’ street, fatally injured. Mrs. Benjamin tokes, Mercer street, seriously. Mrs. Richard Cooke, 31 Steckton strect, seriously, Her huSband is an attaché of the Comptroller's office. Miss Julia Slingerland, seriously. Margaret Mullany, ten years old, seriously. Mrs. Haggerty, slightly. Margaret Callahan, slightly, Susie Ashmore, seriously. Mrs, Mullen, slightly. Alittle daughter of Mrs. William Cariisle, seri-. ongly not expected to recover, Winnifred Callan, slightly. It will be seen by the foregoing that the sufferer were all of the female sex. The melancholy occur- rence had so depressing an effect on the clergy, that at THE OBSEQUIES, The funeral oration to be delivered by Father McGahan, of East Newark, a8 well as the office for the dead, was dispersed with. At the solem: ht mass, Bishop Corrigan was celebrant; Laughran, deacon: her Thomas Kiernan, Phila- delphia, sub-deacon and Father O’Connor, Maucly Chunk, mascer of ceremonies. Sixty priests wera present. When the absolution was given by the Bishop, eight clergymen were detailed to convey the re~ mains of the honored priest (which were laid in a black wainut casket, covered with black cloth, ani exquisitely mounted by three massive silver handles on each side and one at each end) to thein final resting place in the enclosure in front of the, church, where @ brick vault had been especially repared for their reception. The vault is eigha fect long by three in width and eight in depth. is built of brick, the walls being over a foot im thickness, After depositing the casket in tha crypt and the last sad and impressive prayer being, given, the solemn procession moved back into thea church, where it was dismissed. The clergymem then disrobead and retired to the parochial resi« dence, where the two melancholy events of the day were discussed. INCENDIARISM IN BROOKLYN, A daring attempt was made, about nine o’clock last night, to burn the building 415 Fuiton streety opposite Boerum street, occupied by different par- ties for business purposes. The second floor of tha premises is occupied by C. H. Danielis, a costumery andin @ rear room, which was well stocked withy costumes, the forewoman discovered two fires— one under the sheives and the other in a closet. Tha flames had made but little headway and were a ext hed by two policemen who were caile in, A bottle of alcohol and a bottle of turpentin were found in the closet, and the floor about th fires was saturated with the fluids. After the ex citemeat caused by the fire had-in a degree sub~ sided it was discovered that a Spanish ge sult, valued at about one hundred dollars, bi been stolen from the room. The door leading fro this apartment into the hallway wae unlocked, an the key, which had been missing for sever montis, was foond on a shelf close by, Mr. Daniella was not present, having left town int middle of the day, and the insurance upon hi: could not, thereiore, be ascertained. Fire Kendy will make an ipvestigation to-day. A \