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4 “CREDIT MOBILIER. POLAND'S INVESTIGATING COMMITTEE Examination of Sidney ‘Dillon, President of the Credit Mobilier—The Brooks-Neilson Matter Agein on the Tapia, WASHINGTON, J@n. 20, 1873, Judge Poland's special committee to investigate ‘the charges of distributing Crédit Mobiller stocks among members of Congress resumed its session this morning. General Banks, having returned to the city, was ‘with the committee this morning for the first time Since the doors were opened. aid SIDNEY reg psa TMONY. 4 testified Di ‘ths ‘st Ness SWOrR, Ant that Behold stock in the Unjon Pacine Railroad. Com- anys ad broom director of the road and on the Bxecu- ve Mobilie: is ENT OF THR CONCERN ; Me tee; had been a stockholder in the Credit jompany, and is Ww PRESID ‘Decame connected with the Credit Mobilier about a year aster its organization; knew that shares were pat inte of: 8 to enable them to tul the hands: rant and Aime: contrac! which they had previousl wae ee 3 one of the signers to the paper ing th Jo remem ber, the’nanes of the persona whom e was under obligations to. . DO you remember anything being gaia about him belng under obligation io members of Congress? Ant thing there was some allusion made fo him being un obligadon to members of Congress, but | do not remem- Der of any names being mentioned; think Ames said he ‘was ROORS: Mathowever, as {0 he extent of his obli tion to Mr. Brooks; knew nothing of any negotiation Pre Ane sharon, 19 Neiisou: as wo we Aly adde wares to i 4 onal shares ‘issued to Neilson’ by the company, Witness ‘was not test BROO! © 70 HIM ONE DAY and told-him that he had Fecetved 100 shares of stock eotee ie wad cnutied ao ihe Miiy spares aadivonals wit oy ‘ese prom ed ‘to consalt the dirgctorg; “did go, and they ret have % Pe Hui teausiented his haverest in ihe shares to Neilso came to get the shares; at the same time he BORROWED FROM WITNESS PIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS to pay for the took Mr. Durant paid forthe stook trans. ferred to nim by the Sompen. ;, Witness had no papers be- i Mobiiter: o Totiging to she Credit em to Me, Knew.ot large divid stock} dividends were the directors netet Mr, Brooks or Mr. Nelloou was used ; the pa was signed by Oliver Anes, Samuel Hooper, Atkins and Williams, of ost and others; did not remember of eliher Oakes Ames or Alley signing ws papers ‘MB, BROOKS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ie MONEY Keiton by, witnera: was not care that the money had [Sa Aer eh erat ep ua Tooking at the # hls olen ‘al these Peer Sat nOe Ten ET ho adaiticnat Aiy sharest Sieg nothing ants Whar Ames did with the steok trans: fe him; Mr. Broo! distinctly that the stock Wwastogo to bis souin-inw, Mr, Nelivon, and not to him Crary—Did not remembor that Mr. Broo! aff uid be signed; to the best o Mr. Brooks learned that issued that he said they talked with Mr. Alley about.this analine some mere’; oor ag Ff RO} IRECTO! aboutimiing the fity shares to Mr, Brooks: did not re- member of stoc! Beying stood in the name of Mr. Brooks on the books and his name being erased in order Ay ME. Merrick-<The paper algned by the directors em 'y Mr. The paper sign - braced no other iganeachon, ut was confined exclu- sively to the fiity with Mr. Brooks were in the Union ‘acifie office; Mr. Alley was not there at the time of these: interviews, nor was Mr. McComb; in the inter- views Mr. Brooks did not say anything about being a government director or member. Congress or any infiu- ence Be could in favor of the jhe claimed the Gtty shares as his right, and said nothing about his influ- C8, Brooks—Witness considered that the 100 shares them the right tothe fifty shares; never Knew of (ee bEgoms having received any dividends from By Mr. Smithers—Mr. B. F. Ham was the private secre- ‘tary of witneasin Credit, Mobilior mat and could = all the details about the transact ashe at- nded ta it by order of witness; DID HOT KNOW WHERE THE BOOKS AND TAPERS OF THE © BILIER glean they were in the ands of Mr. Ham: witness in- tended oe ing Mr. Ham here with bim, but that gentle- man was sick, By Mr. Brooke—Have been a contractor on thirty differ- bo orp sy had various bookkeepers and secre- r In reply to ore ey’ Mr. Alley, the witness testified that he never heard of Alley having peg eae, be do with the transaction with Brooks; was quite sure that Aliey’s &umé was not on the paper authorizing the transfer. TOLD TO POST HIMSELF, Judge Poland requested the witness to examine his Pick witness had qu Dooks and papers, in order that he ht better acquaint bimself’ with the transaction with Me. Wilson. tie Te plied that he would do so. * ADJOURNED. At twelve o’clock noon the committee adjourned ontil ten O'clock A, M. to-morrow. WILSON’S INVESTIGATING No Witnesses Examined Yesterday—Pre- paring to Hear from E. H. Rollins— Two Large Trunks Full of Union Pa- cific Railroad Books. WASHINGTON, Jan. 20, 1873, The Wilson select investigation committee met this morning, at eleven o’clock, Much time was occupied in making PRELIMINARY ARRANGEMENTS, 80 as to facilitate the examination of E. H, Rollins, President of the Union Pacific Railroad Company, who was present with two large trunks full of books belonging to that company. ‘The investigating committee examined no wit- nesses this aiternoon, J. HUBLEY ASHTON, ex-Assistant Attorney General of the United States, was introduced as associate counsel witn Mr, Perry Jor the government. Adjourned until to-morrow morning. GLIMPSES OF FRAUD. ‘Witnesses To Be Called Before the Credit Mobilier Investigating Committee—The Mysterious Movements of Alley During Recess— The Estimation in Which He is Held by Durant, WASHINGTON, Jan. 20, 1873, It is believed to be the duty of the committee, now that their meetings are no longer secret and Oakes Ames and John B, Alley are not permitted ‘to brow beat the witnesses and dictate the modus operandi 01 proceedings, to call those two persons to the stand to testify as witnesses, requiring them to answer such questions under oath with reference to their transactions in and about Congress as may be put to them. In the secret sessions, before the recess, Alicy and Ames domineeringly con- ducted the proceedings, and with maniestations of much insolence managed to [turn them into a farce until prevented from doing so by the persis- tent policy adhered to by Colonel McComb in keep. 8 rae wax QUESTION BEFORE THE COMMITTEE and the enterprise ef the Henan in furnishing the public with the list of stockholders of the Union Pacific Railroad Company and the Crédit Mobilier of America, with its startling exhibit of dividends, These developments tamed Oakes Ames and‘set him about the work of preventing open sessions of the committee, He canvassed the members whom he had tampered with and urged them to use their influence to have the committee continue kts secret sessions after recess. John B. Alley, THE “URIAH HEEP’’ OF THE BOSTON RING, with all the ‘‘umble’ insolence which charac- terizes that sainted pligrim, hastened to do his part to convince the members that they must stop the investigation. Like Heep, he made sideway grimning approaches to mem- bers of the press, making statements un- founded in fact with reference to the situation in the committee, which were eagerly devoured by the lobbing correspondents of this ilk and sent broadcast to the country. The irrepressible “Nes- tor of the press,” who represents all of the leading journals here, who assures all new-comers that they can arrange with him and will have no eecasion to consult the regulars; that he represents them and can “fx them all,” is one of Uriah Heep’s confi- dants. This Nestor does Uriah’s popularizing in peed dol After deing what they could here te ae ody Fey influence ‘of the welcome informat! @ HERALD the tw and Oliver) and fo Ameses (Oakes hastened to New York. “the tise x fork. The first man t was Dr, Durant. Oliver Ames met bin ds orenne fast at the Filth Avenue Hotel and developed the fact that he believed that Mcvomb lied about the Brooks-Netlson stock, and that Neilson only got fifty shares. Durant then assured Oliver Amey hat he was mistaken; that he (Durant) let Brooks ‘have the 100 shares for $10,000; that he could then have sold them for $50,000; that bh gin of profits for Brooks’ influence; that sometime aiterwards, alter Durant left for Kurope, Brooks claimed fifty shares of Dillon or Alley, paid the same rate, giving all over par for Brouks’ influence, Neilson having no influence that the Union Pacificwaiued at such @ price. After this astounding statement Oliver Amos con- in secret. ‘The oilictal records of gave the mar. | NEW YORK HERALD, TUESPAY, JANUARY 21, 1873.-TRIPLE SHEET. fessed that he never before heard ..of, tho 100 shares, and agreed with Dr. Durant if that was the case and the fifty shares were obiuinea during Durant’s absence, under the pretence and sapped tian: that he baa not any, viat he 3 ut to k and return hé aii jurant has com- does be 9 ¥ as 1e videnas te fit ie mencoed @ suit to recover the flity shares, He not attempt to recover trom THE MUCH-TALKED-OF NEILSON, but of James Brooks. During the recess Uriah Heep, witn character- istic wriggle, presented limeell $0 Mr. Durant to apologize about what a Was! ‘on correspondent reported that he said’ about the Doctor. cep said, wits weet, complacent smile, “The writer Dr. ‘ant told Heep that be need not let any! know that he had corrected the state- ment, because tf he did ali honest people who knew him would beiteve his original Ue told to the reporter. Heep toek his leave of Dr. Durant that ay ater, gasayore to ina out oie i fA against McComb ‘when he com . Durant knew that McComb had spoken the trath, and said go. Later dur the rosea ublished sever: giter the HeRALD had — 2 Rage contracts, especially | the tract, Heep Alley, who in consuitation with the ring as to how best break down McComb, suddenly started again tor New York and yori entered the oF fice of Dr. Durant and began to put leading ques- tions tohim. Heep was accompanied by an un- ‘known who was to act as witness. After letting Alley ask one or two questious Dr. Durant sum- moned into the room one of his secretaries and tola him to sit down @nd listen to what was said, for his caller (Alley) could not be believed under oath alter he left about what occurred in his pre- sence. Dr. Durant, as he expressed it, says, “I never Was 80 convinced of anything in my lile as L was that he came with @ witness to muke up & case to carry to Wasi on,” All the manipulations of the ri failed during the recess to continue the sessions of the committee the two cqrpora- their enormous proiits beiug laid bare in the power of the riug was broken. POLAND'S COMMITIER, There is no reason now why the Poland Oom- Mittee should not assume that Ames and Alley are offenders agains: the ruicsof the House and the laws of the land. Each was @ member of Congress dur.ng the sessions when jegisiation 1or the Union Pacific Railroad Company was progressing: e8 ail the time and Alley most the time, Alter Alley was ousted irom his seat in Congress by General Butler he made it his business to usurp the floor of the House, under the contagious rule of that body granting the privilege of tue floor to ex- members, for tho purpose of consultation with Oakes Ames, James Brooks and other members of the Cal ional Orédit Mobilier Ring. Instead of entering the Poland Committee, when ed, to be heard in their own deience, they thrust themselves obnoxiously into its pres- ence, domineered the members, assumed to exam- ine and cross-question the witnesses, using insult- ing | and tp pr tue decencies ot such preceediaat. Ames and Alley occupy the doubtiul, if ci al, position of bribe offerers to mem- bers of Congress for the purpose of influencing the votes of the latter in the transaction of Ene publio business. No matter Low Jeng. Mr, Ames ' Alley have been membeis oO! ingress, or whetuer they are such now or ea they have combined to aa cheb be Legon they should be ae OW y oma re oth nders of less means je in WK? oriinal Scots are required todo. They should no longer be al- lowed to intimidate and bully other witnesses. tiens with the Among the important men in the country who should be imvit to give testimony beiore the Poland Committee is. Gemeral C. C, Washburne, of His speech in the House of Represen- tatives on the 20tn of March, 1868, was ap an- nouncement that startled the country, It was made two months after Oakes Ames wrote his famous bribery letters to McComb, in which he gave & detatled history of the first Pacific Railroad which passed Congress in July, 1862, showing capbcualty che provisions giving publio security. He then alluded to the precipitate action of the Pacific Railroad pany the moment it was or- ganized, and how the first grant was secured, in appealing to Congress to wipe out every provision made in the ort; act for the security of the public, On this point Mr. Washburne declared :— WHAT WASHBURNE SAID. “Of the manner by which said last acts was pened T care not to speak. It is of the act itselfthat speak. Who voted for this amendment act it is im- pousib @ to ascertain, as the record shows that all attempts te obtain the yeas and pays on its final passage failed, We know this—that every interest of Rg: that , guarded in the first was “We know that the security of the government was subordinated to @ mortgage amounting to over sixty millions of dollars.” * s- ® “I believe I state nothing more than what is no- tortous when Isay that the Vice President of the Toad has charged the cem with $500,000 as ded in Wasi on to secure heving been e: the passage of that act; claiming that the money was expended in a confidential way, and declining to-furnish any vouchers.” i Now, will ecmmittee invite Mr, Washburne to come before them and tell them mow what he declared in 1868 to be “nothing more than noto- rious.” Among the persons who undoubtedly will be summoned before the committee are the follow- ing:—K. Rollins, or New Hampshire, Congress- man in 1868, and upon retiring was made secretar: and aiterwards treasurer of the Union Pacific Rail- road Company. During the last campaign in New Hampshire Mr. Rollins told what he said he knew ABOUT SENATOR PATTERSON'S SHARES of Crédit Mobilier. General Gilman Marston, ex- Congressman, of Exeter, N. H., should be requested to state what he knows about how Pacific Railroad subsidies are put through the House of Repre- sentatives, He could not be bribed. He would make a pred: witness. He knows all about Alley. Daniel W. Gooch, Congressman elect from John B. Fevtiod district, was in the House of Repre- sentatives durimg the times spoken of by Mr. Washburne, in 1864, until displaced by the elec- tion of General Banks. Let him tell what he knows about how the Union Pacific Railroad bill was passed. He has had large experience in the lebpy since he left Congress. Call General Granville M. Dodge, of Iowa, who was member of Congress in 1864, and was well stocked with Créait Mobilier shares. He was ap- ointed engineer of the Union Pacific, and because fe would not explain, as disbursing officer, what became of certain large sums of money, he was suspended by Dr. Durant, the President of the Union Pacific Railroad yp wig and immediately afterwards was appointed by President Grant a vernment director of the Same company. Call jodge. George Francis Train, McComb testifies, ‘‘got the charter of Crédit Mobilier tor Durant, who paid him $50,000 for it.” Train declares himself that he “machined the Union Pacific Railroad bill of 1864 through Congress ;” that “the radicals were all on the make,” and that “Thad Stevens’ share was $70,000," It is well known that Train wasin this city at that time, and was very busy among mem- bers, Recall Colonel McComb with reference to HIS DECLARATION TO THE PHILADELPHIA CORRE SPONDENT of the Chicago Tribune, in the city of Philadel- phia, on the lith of September, 1872:—“I can roduce a letter not yet 1 anton or preffered in the testimony which would extend the area of implication, draw tn other names of persons not suspected of collusion in any gainful matter, and make the present unfortunate disclosure secondary only.” Call Herbert M. Hoxie, of the “Hoxie contract ;”’ L. B. Beomer, of the “Boomer contract,’ and James W. Davis, of the “Davis contract.’ Call Judge Charles T. Sherman, of Ohio, brother of the General and the Senator. He was one of the government directors in 1867, and was on the committee in the Board to audit and settle ac- counts of the Crédit Mobilier and Union Pacific Company, &c. He wrote one of the contracts. Subpeena B. F. Hand, Assistant Treasurer of the Crédit Mobilier and Auditor of the Union Pacific Railroad Company; also F, G. Fant, banker, of pene aud Alexandria, Va. The latter ts posted. Sidney Dillon was President of the Union Pacific Railroad Company, and a large stockholder in that corporation and in Crédit Mobilier, He was Pres- ident of the last-named corporation in 1866. He can teil some about the Brooks stock. Tet THE POLAND COMMITTER be in earnest, and summon all these distinguished persons before the investigating committee, and ith open doors, @ fair hearing and a free press, the public will be able to know bout Crédit Mobilier and the Union Pacific.Railroad, and how to obtain government subsidies. It is to be regretted that a diferent policy is already being urged by a Ce lobby. This influential body is under the leadership of U, H. Alley and Oakes Ames. OUR BRAVE NAVAL CADETS. igh ~ ag 16, 1873, To.THe Epitor oF tHE Heracd ~ A few nights since an act was performed which, for coolness and courage in alad only sixteen years of age, could hardly be surpassed. About seven P. M. on January 10, the night being very dark, as Midshipmen Colwell and Stoney, of the United States Navy, were walking upon the ice they heard cries of “Help!” seeming to come from a great dis- tance out on the ice. whey immediately started off, calling to some friends further in shore to fol- low them with a plank and ropes, which they did. Meanwhile Colwell and Stoney kept on in the direc- tion from which the cries proceeded, till the ice be- ee to crack beneath them. Colweil then proposed at they shenld crawl, which they did. r pro- ceeding In this manner for over a hundred yards over rotten ice, whickevery moment threatened to open beheath them, they came to a man strugglin, in the water, who besought them, for the love ot God, not to let him drown, Colwell told him that they could do nothing for him just then, but for him to hold out, and a plank would be at hand soon, which they would shove eutto him. But the man continued to pray them to save him; then, throw- ing his hands above his head, he disappeared. He came up again, however, and commenced to swim, Colwell and Stoney now Knotted their suspenders together, and Colwell, creeping up to the very edge of the hole, threw the end to him; but he was too much frightened or his fingers were too numb to veda them. He was about to go down again, When Colwoll, reaching forward, caught him by the hair of the head. The ice broke beneath their | bs pod Weight, and both disappeared. The man id not rise again, but Colwell came to the suriace g00n, for, Batra to-ay, the drowning} had failed to bateh bin. ved tuen he did uot 1oNe. Ins presence of mind, and after several attempts to | climb out on the ice, which always broke beneath ; him, part of the toe bioaine srmmaraed, and he swam out on it, Then, by crawling on his belly for some distanor, he came to com) ely safe’ ice. By this time the men with the had arrived, and Colwell and Stoney wi their perilous tion, All man were fruit Colwell was taken to his room in a state of com- lete exhaustion, put to bed and well dosed with randy, The vext Sas be re well, though worn OUlue body of the drowned aan Has not yet been McLean here last Juge and ot ia ‘woul seem to indicate that the old reputation o! the ia not to navy i# not t be disgraced by the rising generation found, DEMOCRACY. Lecture by Henry Ward Beecher on Its Unconscious Influence—What It Has Done. to Exalt the, Individual and Modify Society. A lecture was delivered last evening in Steinway Hall by tho Rev, Henry Ward Beecher upon the “Unconscious Influence of Democracy” before one of the largest audiences that the room ever held. ‘The platform was also’ crowded with an imposing @rray of the most prominent names, both in the Professions and in the ranks of men of affafts. It is needless to add that the lecturer held his listen- ers spellbound until the close of his address, Having explained what the democratic principle ‘was, and how powerful and universal was its in- fluence all over the modern world, he went on to say that formerly the LEARNED OLASSES lived in themselves, but were now forced to live in the public. The power of the newspaper was Merely because of its being the form through which the thought of the people was expressed. Our journals, as they now were called, could not have existed in any but a democratic age, He could Not, however, say “what would be exactly the fu- ture of society ander democratic influences, for society refused to sit forits portrait, All that he proposed to de was to show the changes it had Slready undergone and the influences now actively at work within it. Tho spread of the democratic principle had had its first effect in POLITICS, At one time the unit of society had been the family. Now it was the individual, while the ecnar politically, was unknown, Af least at individual man was a unit, for society as yet stil looked at.the woman through the man, By this means the rights of man had grewn more and more respected, while the State, the Church and ali other organizations were less powerful. It was now eld that the strength of a State’was in proportion to the strength of the individuals that composed it, But we ought not to gee merely for what they do ani produce, for the poor and helpless migat have a real and spiritual value to the community greater than other men who ‘were apparently much more important factors of prosperity, We had begun to learn that the strong were only safe when they protected and aided the weak, and that a State ought to be built up from the well-being of allparts of the structure. Men must take owre of the whole community, if they ‘were‘strong and rich, or else the whele fabric would fall in ruins, Thus intensity of individualism had, it was feared by some, tended towards the ISOLATION OF MEN one from the other. But this wasa mistake, for individuals came together more freely than ever for p 9 Of Sa ak ad if not for purposes of co} lation. We had in America an aristucracy of wealth wnich lasted as long as the snow, which banked itgeif up and then melted away, for this ‘Was one of the necessary results of the ocratic principle. Ev man, said de: Ought to grow asrich and strong as his nat superiority enables himto do, Men must have leaders and but they did not want an artificial aris- Hi yy Wanted only the ARISTOORACY OF TALENT and worth, While, therefore, democracy d a a tt made naturally superior men more wert su) than ever. Revolutions had also been abolished by the democratic principle; for revolu- tlons ‘were not possible where there were free ieee free apeesa. and babe Hage Acres oo change—constant change, put it was grad to be dangerous, Democr: also had a tendency to put down wars, which usually arisen from the jealousies or ambitions of the powerful. COMMUNISM had at least in Europe had the good effect of show- hee the working classes of lands that their interests were identical, and that peace was meces- sary to their well ing. “Vemecracy was also favorable to the professions, which needed the criticism and appreciation of an enlightened and intellectual community. The distribution of all cngieies to the people would become more and more general, and that remnant of con- tempt fer the common people which aitill, to some extent, lingered in the minds o! most philosophers and scientists and. pro- fessional men would then disappear. Mr. Beécher then went on to show that though we should never have @ learned class as distinct from the commen pernle, we should have learned men, who would rewarded far MORE MUNIFICENTLY by the people as their patrons than bins had been in the past by kings and nobles, This interde- pendence of the learned and protessional classes with the common pepple was good for both. Medi- cine had already be@M greatly improved by the in- telligence of the common people. At one time the doctor had been, next to the minister, the most important man {n the village, while the people knew nothing at all about life or the laws of nealth. Yet how this had changed! Now, the average citl- zen knew more of MEDICINE than the doctor of not many years ago. Then how the knowledge of law had spread through the eople, yet the lawyers had apparently lost noth- we, te they seemed to be as well employed as ever, witl ART. It was @ great mistake to suppose that the days of art had gone i Ben the people were new its only patrons. e should have no more Sistine chapels, no grand works such as the old masters used to Myre but we should have instead land- poapes and domestic scenes, and everything that touched the ee and hopes of the people. But perhaps it was in .theology that the democratic principle had caused most Seer . Old forms and practices and creeds were being tinkered and coopered with desperate energy, but it would be aliin vain. There would always be religion, but the philosophy of religion was a human invention, and Bde therefore, subject to changes that were inevitable. Some old system had said that man had no he that God ought to respect, but de- mocracy had shown us the injustice of this, and it would be abandoned. Mr. Beecher closea by an eloquent imaginative picture of the brightness of the coming and ultimate future of the world, SAMANA BAY. The Meeting of the Incorporators of the Company Postponed tor a Couple of Days. The meeting of the incorporators of the Samana Bay Company which was to have been held yester- day afternoon, in the office of the Pacific Mail Steamship Company, has been indefinitely post- poned, in the absence of Messrs. Tom Scott, 8 M, Pullman, D. 8. G. Howes, John Stewart, Olver Ames and others, Some eight or ten members of the company, including Messrs. A, B. Stockwell, P.N. Spofferd, F. Schuchardt, 8. L. M. Barlow, 0, K. Garrison, T. 8. Stewart, H. Clews, W. S. Fargo and H, W. Gray were present, but it was deemed advisable to await the arrival of the absent ones before proceeding to transact the important busi- ness that would be brought before the meeting, There appears to be @ diversity of opinion as to what business will be brought before the meeting, and although there are some rumors on Wall stréet that arrangements will be made for the issue of a large amount of stock, those interested in the com- pany Rp re ty Soe that there will be no stock puton the mafket at mee attention of the members of the compan be pat called to per- panent organization, aiter which they will a} point om Mae ® genstitution aod laws fo gov- erm the ¢dom: of the new colony. The De- artmémt of Emigration, which is, pro , und Pre charge of Dr. Samuel G. Howe ‘will be bron Ht} he meeting, and it is expec the boi age will throw the entire Management of this important branch per- manently under the direction ef Dr. Howe, who apticipates great success in the State of Massachu- setts. There will also be numerous other affairs of importance to be transacted, ucluding the ap- pointment of a finance committee, before whom the bills for the present expenditure will have to go for audit. The steamer Tybee will, probably, not leave for Samana Bay until the latter part of the coming week, as numbers of things have been ordered by the company for shipment to the new El Dorado which require time to manufacture. Among other orders which have been given out by the company 1s one for several ready-made houses, which are to be sent out on the first trip for the nse of the oifl- cers of the company. There appears to be no cessation to the, excite- Ment raised in the spirits of adventurers, as there were nambers of applicants yesterday ready to proceed to Samana Bay at five minutes’ notice provided their passage was paid. This is easily ac- counted for, however, as there are aiways a num- ber of men In this city ty d to proceed anywhere provided they see a week's board ahead, but those are not the men to form good colonists, as they will Prove 4 burden rather than an acquisition to the company, If the answers to despatches sent this afternoon shall prove satisiactory the company will hold their meeting next Wednesday at two P. M., in the oflice of the Pacidc Mail Steawsip Company, ‘he! hall be abolished in Cubs "TUB REPUBLIC. OF CUBA | Sietcapara at inte of all ki ‘hanking Arrival in New York of Colonel Juan Manuel Macias—Report. of His Mi try at London. ‘ Tho English People Unanimonily in Favor of Cu- | Lateran he fo ban Independence—The United States to Take the First Step “‘as It is am American Ques tion”—The Cuban Anti-Slavery Meet- ings in Great Britain—The Press of Europe Supporting the Cause— Colonel Macias Advised to Make Representations to the Washington Government, ‘The Minister of the Cuban Republic at London, nds. TI ‘Mr. Macias for Ris courveay the reporter withdrew. MAOIAS! EVYORTS FOR CUBA. Colonel Macias, since 1847, has been working for Cuban independence has been for y years under sentation of de: by the airy govern- ment, was al pes and was Present ‘et the captare ® few nours oa it by his bravery. Later on he agent for the @ expedition to Oubs of General John A. in Homma rg Georgia. he tite of Colenel, pl eerd faye ny tae saa So eau we a Dumber of pamphlets stteobnag snes in Cuba, THE ENGLISH PRESS ON THE HERALD CUBAN EXPEDITIO. a. (From the London Post, Jan. 6.) If the design of President Grant in sending special agent to Cuba were simply to obtain cor- rect and trustworthy information concerning the Present condition of ¢he ingurrection in that island, be haa seen his object anticipated and tolerably well accemplished by the enterprise of a Colonet Juan Manuel Macias, after a sojourn of 9 | New York journal; and if his design was’to use couple of years in that city, returned home to New | this information jor the purpose of justifying to York a few daysago. A reporter of the: Heratp:| the American popular mind the project of inter- having been iastructed to.obtain the views of Mr. Macias upon the outlook of Cuban matters across vention which he ts supposed to cherish, he could have nothing to suit his purpose better than the the Atiangic, called upom him at his residence and | #eport of the New York HERALD’s special commis-, ‘was meat courteously received. After explaining | sioner, published in that journal on the l9thef the object of his visit, and after the Colonel had | December. The struggle in Cuba is a confict thrown himself into an easy chair and lit his | between what Mr. Froude would call @ por. Cigarette, awaiting questions, the following inter- | tion of “the native faction’ and the gov- view took place :— Rerosres—I hear that the cause of ‘free Cuba” is making great headway in Great Britain, Colonel? CoLonei—Yes, sir, Cuban matters in England, Scotland and Ireland are in as favorable a condi- tion as the strongest friend of Ouba could desire, RerostTse—It is said here that great ignerance prevails in Great Britain among the bulk of the Population as to the actual condition of affairs in | liar du Cuba. COLONEL—That was 80 acouple of yeara ago, when 1 first went to England, for I found that peo- | tion alive. They have furnished th ple in general knew very little about the matter, while Others were of the opinion that the patriots had been entirely suppressed. jz: RerorTee—Can you tell me of other opinions held by the British nation ? CoLoNEL—Certainly; @ large number of people thought and still think that it is a matter belong: ing entirely to the jurisdiction of the United States, Nearly all the people I have met in England are warm friends and admirers of the United States and desire that the most friendly relations should be preserved between the two countries, FOR THIS OBJECT, THEY FEAR INTERNATIONAL COM- PLICATIONS ff any British intervention should take place in Cuban waters. Ina word, they fear the slightest interruption to the entente cordiale at present reigning, or wounding in any way American suscep tibilities, and I may add that this feeling is a very largely expressed one. One gentleman said to me, now that the vexed Alabama question is settled and cordiality has been restored between the two nations, let us preserve the harmony existing as long a8 possible, and, much as we are opposed te slavery, believe me CUBA 18 A UNITED STATES QUESTION and not directly an English one, RerorTeR—When you firat entered upon your mission in London you must have had 4 great deal of uphill work. CoLonzi—Well, I will answer that qnestion by saying that I had to combat a good deal of misin- formation and preconceived views, but on the,| woud other hand I must say I MET MANY WARM AND DEVOTED FRIENDS, notably the celebrated member of Parliament, Thomas Hughes, Mr. Simon, Mr. Galpin, Mr. Tor- rance, also in Parliament, and Mr. F. W. Chesson, the Secretary of the Aboriginal Society, and count- Jess others in all ranks and conditions of life who have enthusiastically espeused the cause of Cuba Livre, THE ENGLISH PRESS. REPORTER—The metropolitan press is strongly in your favor, I believe. COLONEL—Yeés, that is 80; the Times, Telegraph, Standard, Daily News, Morning Post, Pall Mall Gazette, Cosmopolitan and Echo are now all firm friends and supporters of our cause, while last, but Not least, Colonel Manter, the editor of the Anglo- American News, isa firm supporter of the Cuban Republic, and, I may add, at times published arti- cles from your paper, which show the sympathy felt for us by the American people, and pleads in his editorial columns that Cuban white humanit; deserves consideration at the hands of the civilize world as much as black humanity. I may also add that all the provincial press of Great Britain has pronounced pirongly. in eur favor and adopted strong humanitarian views, ignoring to a certain extent for the time being the men and measures necessary to bring about the Republic of Cuba and the abolition of slavery. REPORTER—Do you believe that the question of according belligerent rights to the Cuban patriots will come before Parliament again shortly ? AN IMPORTANT STATEMENT. CotonzL—Yes, I have strong hopes that it will, be again brought forward ere long. I can, how- ever, state, to the best of my positive belief, that the Sritish government will agree to any reasona- ble proposition that may be made by the govern- ment of the United States with reference to slavery in Cuba and giving just hts to the people. Let me impress upon your mind this fact, that our sal- vation must come from this government, for Great Britain looks upon Cuba, as I before said, as an American question, and will not take the initiative in the matter. THE BRITISH MINISTRY. My friends in the British Ministry have repeat- edly told me, “Go to Washington and tell the United States government that we will interfere if they will; but we cannot take the lead.” Of course Icannot betray the names of the gentlemen occu- ying such high positions who gave me this advice, for they would resent the breach of confidence, THE PROSPECTS OF THE FUTURE. REPORTER—Should the Cubans be accorded bel- ligerent rights, do you believe that they would secure their independence ? COLONEL—I have no doubts whatever on the subject, for we are promised the loan of millions of doll for this purpose, to serve as the sinews of war, as soon a8 this country recognizes our bel- ligerency. FRANCE, GERMANY, ITALY, ETO. REPORTER—The French press is strongly in favor of Cuban independence; is that not so? CoLONEL—My duties are confined to London ana Great Britain generally; and, therefore, French matters do not come directly under my knowledge. IThappened to hear, however, incidentally that at @ journalistic dinner at Paris, which took place Noell before my leaving Europe, editors represent- ing the following influential papers, undertook to support the cause of the Republic of Cuba:—Le Le Constitutionnel, Le Ga’ udois, La Republi Franpatse, lal Cuba” was que La Gloire. The toast of ‘Free also subsequently drank, I hear, with Orin ‘Berita, Tear, two of the most prominent in Ber! ear, two of the most prominent pa- pers are writing in our favor. = - Intl we are langely supported by the brere. In Spain, owing to the reaction at present taking place there, we have several Cuban organs, advo- cating the avolition of slavery, a notable one being Bl Aboticionista, of Madnd, which is workin connection with the anti-slavery societies of Lon- don and Paris for jppression of slavery. Then we have the magnificent oratory of Castelar in the fae bio ogidhes J fe Wee lakes of the Spel oe mass Hee ent parts 01 no, in which reselutio 2 ite ‘Passed cA ng Syn ¢ @ GOV- ernment to i, slavery in Cuba and Porto Rico. At Barcelona, in Spain, on the 22d of Decem- ber last, an immense mass meeting was held, at which from twelve to fifteen thousand persons as- sisted. A committee was appointed at the mect- TO WAIT UPON THE AMERICAN and to him to transmit to his government 4 report of the proceedings of the mass meeting pro- testing against the continuance of slavery in the nish Antilles, The Consul promised to make the desired report, and after saluting the Stars and Stripes the committee retired. THR LONDON ANTI-SLAVERY SOCTETY, RerorTER—I suppose the Anti-slavery Society of London desired to co-operate with you in the mat- ter of abolishing slavery in Cuba, CoLonkEL—Mr. Mill the secretary of that so- ctety, is @ most energetic worker in our behalf, as are the Cn fbn baa mbes with Ans This s0- ciety caused mee: 0 be heid at the principal cities in the United Kingdom, at which resolutions were es condemning slavery in Cuba and Porto , and requesting the British government to an Gucp steps a8 may be most desirable in the matter. DISTRIBUTING FACTS ABOUT CUBAN SLAVERY. Coleone! Macias then continued :—Before lea London I caused to be printed many thousan pamipniee containing extracts from speeches made in the Spanish Cortes on the abolition of sla’ in Cuba by Sefors Diaz Quintero, Benot Salmeron, Sanvorna Garrido, Labra, Orense and others, who, like Chatham and Burke in the Kng- lish Parliament in the last century, raised oon voices in # similar manner ior the rights of the North American colonies, ‘hese pamphiets have been sent to all the newspapers in Great Britain, while Tam.now causing others to be sent from here to all leading journals in this country and Canada, In conciusion, our prospects are aay growing brighter and brighter, and I pray te the day is It has ome a disgrece vo humaaity 3 erieie against civ 2 to humanity, & crime agains! - ization and sain against ste Spain Pps stam| out th» insurrection, nor can the rebels win their own independence. Without intervention by ment of 8) sided by the rest of the tives and the anion residents of Cuba, Batak reales 0 @ third party the horrible conflict may f° on for. five ‘ears more, fruitful in nothing but bloodshed, rapine, cruelty and devastation. The United States have a pecu- in the premises—a duty which can no longer be evaded without national disgrace. From the commencement of the struggle up to this mo- ment the United States have kept the insurrec- e insurgents with arms, smamunltiay, Officers. and money; through the mouths of their Congress and their newspapers the Americans have expressed sym- pathy with the insurgents, a ‘desire to aid them and a confidence in their final triumph; and Presi- dent Grant himself has repeatedly notified the world. of the uneasiness and displeasure which the continuance of the war caused his country, and its anxiety that it should cease. There is evel reason to belteve that the insurrection never woul bave broken out had not tne ected Cubsns sup Wd that the United States would espouse their quarrel. There is abundant piped that they would long since have abandoned the str le had they not been sustained by the conviction that the American government in time would intervene in their behalf. Until now the expressed and implied promises of the Americans in this regard have been made only to the ear and were broken to the hope; but affairs kaye now reached such a ass tha’ by every consideration which can in-. uence @ Christian nation, they are bound either to make known their determination to abandon the insurgents to their fate, or to openly and de- cisively intervene ‘in their behalf. Our own in- formation constrains us to the belief that the American government has determined upon and is Preparing for the latter course; and the story of the condition of the island, told by the HERALD’s correspondent, is enough of itself to se- cure ular approval and support for any meas- ures that will not involve a war with Spain, and ‘very probably is sufficient to enlist approval and ort for @ course that would render such a war cert ‘DO SPANIARDS REPRESENT AMERICAN SEN- TIMENT? New York, Jan. 19, 1873. ‘To THE EpiT0x or THE HREALD:— As Americans and readers of the HERALD wo Ake to know if a few dozen of Spaniards, in their telegram of the 17th inst. to the Marquis of Manganero, of Madrid, represent the sentiments of the American people with regard, to Cuba, or are the despatches of our Secretary of State, Hon. Hamilton Fish, and the utterances of the ie press the true exponents of the sentiments will of the American fieaested ® It is time for us to know, without any. mistake, what is the will of the Ame! ople with re- gard to Spanish rule in Cuba. 'e believe it to be a disgrace to Christendom, and that the time for interference on the part of the American 1 people has come. JOHN. H. HUDSON, OLIVER. T, BLAKR, JOHN R. WHITE, on behalf of a large organization, A COPARTNERSHIP TRANSACTION. lB lS UR A Manufacturing Business that Did Not Pay. Eugene A. Heath, ef the Heath & Smith Manu facturing Company, was arrested yesterday by order of Deputy Sheriff Jarvis, under a warrant granted by Judge Robinson last Summer, at the suit of Theodore P. Austin, of the firm of D. Austin & Sons, manufacturing jewellers, at 95 Fifth avenue. According to the affidavits Heath and Austin were both members of the Twenty-second regiment. On the strength of the acquaintance thus formed Heath called at Austin’s house early in 1969, and told him that a party of rich men in Connecticut, most of whom were interested in the Portland quarries, had been negotiating with him to form a company for the manufacture of metal and Japan goods, the same business in which his firm, Heath & Smit were engaged. He said that the business had been paying twenty-five per cent profit, and the frm had accumulated a stock of goods, tools, machinery and good-will of great value. He had concluded to organize the company and intended to turn all these things over to it, It would have to expend nothing, as the tools and machinery were all new and of the most approved kind, being worth over $50,000. There were more of them, in fact, than the new company would require. Heath & Smith’s stock would brin; $30,000 in six months. Several patents calculate to revolutionize the trade and create @ menopoly in certain articles would be thrown in, and all for 25,000 in stock, Heath wanted Austin to buy some ‘es, although they had all been spoken for and ly paid for, in order that between the two of them they would control the company. After much urging Austin bought 820 shares at par, paying for them $20,500in cash. He was elected treasurer in August, and found, so he says, that Heath’s pa ot A gil untrue. The tools parngd over yore Worth bat $10,000, and the cotipany been Satine to purchase $50,000 worth more. Heath and Smith had transferred no oods, but had drawn $17,800 frem the company. Bre atents were worthless. One, agraining ma- chine, for which Heath & Smith received $25,000, cost the company $3,000 to run, and only $800 worth of goods manufactured by tt bad been sold. Heath & Smith’s business had not only not been rofitable, but the firm was bankrupt, having 38,200 liabilities and only $38,000 assets. William A. Smith, Heath’s partner, in a Me on mentary affidavit, admits tae truth of all these charges, but denies any participation in the swindle. He says that Heath obtained $125,000 in cash on the sale of shares in the mew company. There are also @ number of other corroborative al its, letters, copies ef notes, checks and stock shates, ‘The papers are very voluminous. Heath was very indignant at his arrest, claiming that it was a conspiracy to prevent him from at- tending the Twenty-second regiment ball in the Academy last evening. He begged to be allowed to go to the ball, promising to return and give him- sel this morning, but the Sheriff refused to take the responsibility, His bailis fixed at $10,000, He found it impossible to obtain bondsmen yester- day afternoon, aud was locked up all night in Lud- low Street Jail. ARREST OF BURGLARS AND RECEIVERS. On the evening of the 11th inst. the cigar manu. factory of Frederick Buchnultz, at 334 West Forty- Second street, was broken into and 32,000 cigars stelen. The fact was communicated to Sergeant Heape, of the Twentieth precinct, who since that time, fn company with OMcers O'Connell and Dunn, has been endeavoring to ferret out the crimimais. They recently obtained imfermation which led to the arrest of Alexander Kennedy, John O'Keefe, alias Peter Bergem, Walter Moore and Nicholas Langton, for being concerned in the burglary. Kennedy, who is # young boy, turned State’s evi- dence and gave information where the cl were sold, which led to the arrest of Thomas Deg- West Fortieth street; Frank T. Reathcne Ninth avenue; Jehn Huls, 538 West Forty-first - ‘and Frederick Leiderman, 443 West Fortieth saloon keepers, for recelying stolen prop- ‘They were arraigned at Jefferson Market ‘and the burgiars were locked up for yes |. Leiderman and Brady were heid to answer sue the others discharged. FIGHT OVER A HOBOKEN JOB. The hall of the Hoboken Common Council was densely crowded at the meeting of the Committee of the Whole last evening, the main topic of discus- sion being the proposed purchase by the Council of a lot in First street whereon to construct an engine house for Hook and Ladder Company No, 2 The members of the company are in javor of remaining tn Adam street; but some o/ the Council politicians propose to buy @ lot in First street, more remote Irom the city and inconvenient for the firemen. Bitter excitement prevailed among the assemblage, and the sentiment seemed to be that the side pos- sessing the ereater laluenve would Wi, A SCHOOL ON FIRE. Fird Breaks Out, im the Grammar Department of, Colored Sehool No. 2, in South Fifth Avenue— The Fire Takes Place, Luckily, About Half an Hour Before School Commences—Twe Hundred aud Fifty Children Reeape Being Roasted to Death or Maimed and Disfigured for Life—The Building a Dangerous One— The Fire Exting uished After Half an Hour’s Struggle. In the Hsga.n’s account of its inspection of the public schools published on Sunday, January 13, there appeared the following description of Colored Grammar School No, 2, which is situated in South Fifth avenue, between Grand street and Broome, en the west side of South Fifth avenue :— The colored school in South Fifth avenue, sear Grand street, seems to be, for its size, one of the most intricate structures in the: Cra Itivon! ries its passages would be an ad: le inning for @ 4 Havant aul tee Tages Gatos A a wi one ‘a built wholly of wood, whic! ng qataide of the butiding, rd that tt 2 nd Ww an appearance hasal it of ing hae rt entrances re all on the front of ie atct Ing. area factories Oneach side of it About ten or twelve yours ago the uJ . Paiiding took fire, but it was exti ined before much was done, and none of the children were hurt. ‘Yesterday afternoon s report reached the office that @ fre, or au alarm of fire, had takom Place during the morning at Colored Grammar School No, 2. A reporter called at the school, which is 9 three» Story brick building, with » Corinthian front, ané is evidently an old structure, the front. of which has been altered, the building having beew shortened at the time South Fifth avenue was widened and its name changed from Laurens street to the more ‘tropically aristocratic name which it now bears, The reporter made inquiries of the janitor, @ good-looking mulatto of about ‘thirty years of age, who popped his head through the door, as to the ‘whereabouts of the principal. ReporteR—Is Miss Caroline Hopkins, the prin+ cipal of the school, in at present ? JaniTroR—Miss Hopkins has been dead for a year. Miss Caroline Hamilton 1s new the principal. Go right ahead up stairs and you will find her on the third floor, all alone. School is jest let out, The reporter went up,the main stairs, one ot the worst for short turns that he ever ascended or de- scended, being entirely built of wood and of a most dangerous nature in case of fre, and, finally, found himself on the third floor. ‘The door leading to &.small side class room was opened by the janitor, and the reporter of the HERALD 81004 face te face witha very pretty, very graceful and very intelligent mulatto lady of about twenty-six years of age. “This is Miss Hamilton,’* said the janitor... Miss Hamilton had been at ing her journal for the day, She arose and bowed. 6 reporter bowed back. Miss Hamilton was attired in a Diack silk dress. HERALD REPORTER.—Miss Hamilton, the HERALD has received iniormation that there has been am alarm of fire this plorning in this school, andi would like to get the details of it, as there is a great deal ef doubt about the safety of the public just at this moment, in the public mind, Miss HAMILTON oe ry Nery, Poult bow) —( wilf give you all the injormation Ihave in the matter very cheerfully, The fire took place in the flue this morning, at ut eight o’clock, or a Little before i and there were not any éhildren here at the m8, d ‘ REPORTER—Are you positive that there were not any of the pupils yet arrived in school? HaMILTON—I believe that none had arrived at the time—nhad there, J: rt The janiter, who had been inape the rains of the fire, now came forward and sald:—‘“fhero wasn’t any scholars here when the fire broke out. T had ji been lighting the fire. I have to light the fires im fourteen coal stoves in this and the woodwork took fire while I was absent, came back and I saw the smoke bursting out, and then I ran around to the fire company and told the firemen about it—I mean Engine Comp: No. 13, in Wooster street, between and and some men came back with ym the é} house, and they brought a fre extinguisher and an axe and broke down the wall, and cut open the floors abeve and below and put out the fire. It was all out in half an hour from the time it began, lam sure; and they didn’t bring the engine around, be- cause it was no use in doing it, as they thought that they could put out the fire without,” . REPORTER (to Miss Hamilton)—Can CSP tell me, Miss, how many pupils there are in this school? Miss HAMILTON—There are about sixty pupils im. this department—the grammar department—all girls, of which I'am the principal. Below, on the secend floor, is the primary Aeparsaicnsy 1 think, may have an aver: of 170 pupils of both sexes, e could dismiss the scheol quickly by the two side entrances and the main or front entrance. Mrs. Tripp is the principal ef the primary depart- poent on the ground floor, We have had no fire here to-day in the stove owing to the danger this morming. The janitor’s name 1s Theodore Dey. I rae how you found out that the fire had taken place. REPORTER—Oh, I could not tell that exactly. The reporter mext examined the scene of the fire. The school itselfis a most dangereus, rickety, old building, with a great deal of useless woodwork distributed inside of its walls. It is dark, dingy and illy ventilated, and is nothing more or less than a trap to roast culored children in whenever the ac- cident takes place. Once already the HERALD hag warned the public of this school and its dangeroug condition. The third time that it is moticed it may be on account of a terrible disaster. The stove had been removed from the place where the fire had taken place, and an aperture of about a foot and a half in width and about ten feet high, ran- ning from floor to ceiling, was broken through, showing the plaster and lath in hanging trag- ments. A plank ran down this aperture, and behind it the flame reared and°crackled until it was smashed by the flremen’s axes. To show how combustible the building is it is only necessary to state that the fire burned downward, instead of upward, Half an hour would have wrapped the entire struc- ture in flames, and had it occurred when schoo} was in session a hundred lives might have been sacrificed. The reporter examined the stairways. There is a long, covered, straight stairs of wood running on the north side and one on the south side of the schoel, extending from the third stories to the play yards. The one on the south side is loose, rickety, all of wood, covered with ice, and is, without doubt, from the fact that it has settled to one side, the mest dangerous school stairsin this city, Itshouid be torn down right away and @ decent one erected. It would have been impos- sible for the principal to have dismissed het sixty scholars yesterday, with an alarm fire ringing in their ears, down this staircase, frightemed as they would have been, without an absolute certainty of lives being lost, The staira leading from the primary department to the play- yards are equaliy dangerous, though not so ex- tensive. The schiooi is one of the worst in the city, and should be carefully inspected. Captain Kelly, of Engine Company No. 13, wag visited at the engine house in Wooster street He had taken three men with an extinguisher and ap 50 prgand and put the fire out, He seemed to think the bitilding was safe with the exception of the wooden stairs on the south side, and he had ordered the janitor to take his stoves and stove- pipes to some distance from the woodwork in eve part of the building, And thus the case remains at present, ABT MATTERS Artists’ Fund Society. Last evening a private view was given at the Somerville Art Gallery, Fifth avenue and Four- teenth street, of the paintings contributed by members of the Artists’ Fund Society in aid of that fund, The pictures are to be sold at the Somer- ville Gallery on the evening of next Tuesday, aad will be free to the inspection of the public om and after to-day. They are seventy-six in number, and include contributions by many of our best known and most widely esteemed artists. Dete: until to-morrow anything like s reference to the merita of the more striking works, it will be sufficient here to mention that the catalogue is made up to a great extent of names the celebri of which is akin to that of Kensett, Casilear, Hun! ington, David Johnson, MF. H. de Hane, pistol, Tait, Lawrie, Cropsey, W. H. Beard, 8, R. Gifford, Eastman Johnson and F. 0, C, Darley, The collec- tion was not quite so extensive as usnal; but the attendance of artists was large, and there was ne lack of that animated criticism for which the pre- fession is renewned, and which farnishes the occa- sion ior some of the most honest and fal com- liments and not always least deserv rictures that find expression among auy earnest assemblage of art workers, SMALLPOX AMONG THE DEAF AND DUMB, New York INSTITUTION FOR THE INSTRUCTION OP THE DRAP AND Bove New Yor«, Jan. 20, 1873, To THR Eprron OF THE HERALD:— Dear Stx—To allay the unnecessary alarm of parents having children here, caused by statements cireuldted through the press of the existence of smallpox in the institution, permit me to state that one pupil, after returning from spending the holidays in the city, was taken 1] with symptoms of varioivid, Beiwore the eruption was developed he ‘was removed (rom the institution, We have had no other case, nor do we anticipate any. I am happy to add that the health of the institution wm ct. ey arr Pie ta & D. BROOKS, M. D., Resident Physicians,