The New York Herald Newspaper, January 15, 1873, Page 4

CREDIT MOBILIER. |! The Scandal of the Great Steal Before and After the Election. INSTANCES OF TREACHEROUS MEMORIES. Singular Discrepancies in the Various State- ments of Interested Parties, ‘SENATOR HENRY WILSON’S POSITION. The Oily Ames in Explanation of Mr. Colfax’s Interest. A QUIET REVIEW OF THE EVIDENCE. Progress of the Investigation Before Judge : Poland’s Special Oommittes. MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IMPLICATED. The Character of McComb Not a Proper Subject of Inquiry—Staiements of General Garfield, Mr. Ham and Mr. Durant—White- washers Wanted at the Capitol. It will be remenfbered that when the charges of Congressional corruption in connection with tho Orédit Mobilier were frst made public, during the recent Presidential campaign, they were met by a broad and positive denial by most of those impli- cated in the affair and by indignant denunciation from the republican party press as fabrications out ef whole cloth. A comparison between the state- ments published before election with the facts sub- pequentily developed and with the testimony of the parties themselves given before the Congressional ittee will serve to show how much progress already been made towards a discovery of the ith, and will throw some light upon the efforts being made to suppress or defeat investigation. We give, as a matter interest, a few specimens, which will show the treacherous character of the parties who ‘were interested in Crédit Mobilier transactions, gil of whom seem to have been unaccountably Dareless of dates and remarkably forgotful in a Apancial transaction in which thousands of dollars Of profits were involved. We begin with the indig- nant denial of the whole story by Oakes Ames ina letter published September 17, 1872, and compare it with his testimony beforo the investigating com- mittee :— THE OAKES AMES DENIAL BEFORE ELECTION. from a letter to his constituents pub- lished September 17, 1872.) reterred to, made against me and some of ‘associates in Congress, bit y ohare anally! false the ‘company, were made by Henry 3. in te a ga fust the cred t Mobilier, In the State the purpose of obtainin, none tor pa fall ‘om the company, as every one ot cers and Hy gm the cana ‘then and iow. the pencnnye: officers of the company and several of ta in kholders, inciuding myself, have answered suit long since under oath, that the charges were pally talse ; that not a single share of the stock of that ‘was ever given to any member of Congress, tireety or or indirectly, by me, or any one else to my nae now Wiierate and reaffirm the statement, with tho me Congress. Th tying side by side in tie 3 le by side in the si Published d with the charges, * Vite list Of naines given by McComb, as inaorsed on my letter and published, were writien by himself, as he stated when under oath at the hearing in Pensylvania. He had uo authority trom me for making any such state- i me record, could have been * THE OAKES AMES CONFESSION AFTER ELECTION. [Extracts from his testimony beiore tie Investi- gating Commtitee.] I did agree to sell to several, and dil actvally deliver Be ie miembers of Congress, without as much as@ ought, den or how, of say, wrong or corrapt purpose on my part or theirs, a small amount of stock an Rames of such members I will gladly ‘urnish to the com- mittee if desired, and leave it to those gentlemen to say me ga whether on my part or theirs there ce distant thought at the time of any ‘any more than there would have been Pires ing Of meso many shares of national bank ee eon banded to the witness the letiers pro- ed the other day by Mr. McComb and the witness jentided them as th his own handwriting. Q. Were those letters written at the various dates they peart A. Probably ; unless 1 made @ mistake In the date; they were intended to be correct, . In the letter of the earliest date, January 25, 1868, ou say “that you (1) have assigned as far as you ( one—4 from Massachusetts, | from New Hampshire t, jlaware ; 1, Tennessee, and 1, as it ns to have been pencil to 2, ‘Ohio: 2, Pei od By, bi 2 Pennsylvania; J, In- laine; you were writin; suppose, in tag ler- the stock éo the Credit Motilier? ot Yes, sir. What did you intend by saying that you had as- ‘She as far as you had gone; do these Sgtires refer to persons oF to quantitiost “A. To persons. 'Q. They had no reference to the amount o! k, but to the number of persons in each Statet That is tt, Q You say, “I have assigned as far as I havo gone to four from Massachusetts;” now, who were the four Mas- sachusetts persous to whom you referred? A. I meant that T intended to give it out to four from Massachusetts. Q@ You a yee “have assigned as far as you have gone tA Wi by saying that 1 had ” was hat eat my Intention. Then real m of the jetter Is that that is eaning wi ou pad gest ned to do? A. That is whatT had de- fide to ig in answer to a letter from Mr, that his friends should have stoc! think son, of lowa, was one whom he men- it Mr. letter says, “The fifty per cent increase on tho hea mek want ior ‘distribution here?” A. The old stock was the ninety.three shares that Tgot afterward ; ny rec- ollection is this, that the US en illd shares were the pote | bg Z ornes ork Maes cet Sa apd in- o ir cont; 1 get but ninety-three share: al ite should have got 135; that is my recoilec- boy ae w, in reference to this list of namesin the letter of January 80, Mr. MeComb says that the memorandunt of the ngines was made by hi mm by jYour Teuding these some memorandum bovk or pocketbook where you had them entered. Now, will you state what eB in Od to that transaction? A. I might jaye mentioned tiames that intended to sive ‘stock 10, T stated in oe = re Its. of the letter names of persons gba you to ot fave ve’ that list of names in a pocketbook or ended to sell stock. Smoraicun kt or did you read that list of names to VICE PRESIDENT COLFAX, m {rom any. toa or papere? A. T cannot say; Tima ‘Vice President Colfax, whose name was on the ade a of Dames of persons to Whom Oakes Ames list, gave a Very positive dental to the | whole story during the campaign, in a speech de livered at South Bend, Ind., on September 25, 1872" tnd his statement was accepted as a proof that hé had never held a single doijlar interest in the Crédit. Mobilier stock. Subsequent developments, it will Se seen, Warrant a different interpretation of the Vice President's explanation. VICE PRESIDENT COLFAX’S SPEAR OF TRUTH BEFORE RLECTION. (Extract from his aT at South Bend, Sept. _ 2 ain, you a few iaaoiese my townsmen, while touch Falsehood with the spear of trnihy | Sxpoming the toccaled “Oredit Mobilier seundal,’ u may ‘out ei er Worthless stuf tured. Ames or any person ever gave of me o » OF twenty shares or 2,000 Foviier or any other railroad stock, and that nev rafetiena the vaing of H er 1d bonds you have read for wt month, nor one per cent, Bor one-tenth of om per nt ViCB PRESIDENT ie CONFESSION AFTER {Extract frem his s eetmony be ag iefore the Investigat- tte.) Five years ago, ahout the time of the holiday recess, I fegase the on the floor of the House with Me Ames in ‘acifie Railroad, in favor of the building of mate hundreds of public ad- this conversation Ii if some stock ig haa ‘ime t T Kaew nothing of its ra or d of him as to its objects aud the a ti a Fp ast lana: fate ie for Wf T had tne monen, iE told, him aty nner his ‘explanse i me frenty shar he aw ey that ‘was pushed further purchase twenty share: for them unit we ui Nd \- Srey als UCT wovld, ip addi sdiacnds hs ibe t hot be so iar though grimon putes sain si pon five ray dollars jn cash on is pontrast , beti i the faowey had, but received Bo vided te of stock 10 whole Cy a norweres, TA ousekeeping ex- a plied thai there ha be rapes darely oes S im I orig pact; my —— Iwill now speak of Pati will now e - wals named in the his testimony. Mr. can remember « but I know he wi confident he has paid me for it, ¢! transferred fo dividend can I remembe: io him any di is - kK By Mr, Morrick—Had y: you promine to ‘all these mem- bers of Congress mentioned in thi procure tor them stock ee Credit Mobilior? uot recollect; there we mi ALS: talked to about getting an interest in itwhen th began to think it was a good thing; 1 sannot recotleee all the names; I do not know w ie ad all apoken to me betore ; know net eaeerAl of then did. x Q. Ci at We specify any of those who did? A. I donot now thal Please sinks which of them did 90a far as coflect T ha a0. doubt that Mr. Sef sold ‘ul and ‘and tA. id Wi Rae ade ein aha 28 Soe a: very dificult tor me to remember dat COLONEL M'COMB'S TESTIMONY ON COLFAX. I remember something clse very aistinolly whee I Would like to state; roterence is made in ono, ot Me. Ames’ letters to Durand’s action in New York and sh- burt 1 ‘3 move here: Mr. Amos wrote tome—Lam but he tol me—that BE, B. Washbarno, ¢ nt HiUnole, inh his lace in'ie House, had moved some kind of invastign- tion Into the affairs of the Union Pa a Rai roads i not recollect the procig> point; Mr. Colfax was in the hair as Speaker of the House, and by somo parliament. ud the no and defeated it: md atked me iftdid ot think that, Ia ,, Coliax'scace, tho investment had paid; relvrence to the records ol Gongress would about the day and show what Mr. Wa: ere ie was and what Mr, Colfax sald. SENATOR HENRY WILSON, VIOR PRESIDENT ELECT, EFORE ELECTION. The following oficial denial was made in the Public journals on behail of Senator Wilson during the caurpaign:— Fog gps Sept. 15, 1872. Senator Wilson arrived hi is morni Pe is atten. tion having been called oy é, mig he had received ® number of shares in th ner he uJ a inil and absolute denta! of th ars YY one and every particular, nett any other person did he obtain the: slight st invrest. in that enterprise, and the Allogations ‘hat he didis abso; Tutoiy and unqualified! ae. He dostres the fullest and most complete contradic.ion of the entire allegation as Without the. slightest foundation in. fact; and. he assorts further, that he has never owned a bond or share ot ‘stock in the Union Pacific Railroad Company or in aay other railroad or corporation that has been before Con- hing during all the years in which he has been a Sen- EXPLANATION OF SENATOR WILSON'S ORRDIT MO- BILIBR TRANSACTIONS AFTER ELECTION. {Extract trom J, B, Alley's testimony.) One Ume he (Oakes Aines) sald to me that he was going to lot Henry havo some ot this stock, and re. Hearked. "I ollove iiss eoon flung, and Thave. ered him some ; his wife, you know, has got som to in. vost; Wilson is @ good tellow nn i ‘think it will bea nice sou Thave told him that if ho or bis wito will take @ couple thousand dollars of it I will ton per cent on his momey flo} Milson came to mo.and asked me wh I do not know that I should say pat came to me; we wero talking al geked me what I thought he should Mr, Ames had offered to guar stated; I told hi anything, put that i Ma. Az ertectly” safe: of course I did nol ave any tion; he replied, “No, 1 shall take it; 1 suppoved he dias Thoasd nothing about efor tome time attor; not until he came to me and wanted to know what this thing meant about the McComb suit at Fhiuadelphia; ho heard: that somebody had sent hin a pampiict, fn Which there were charges of corruption, bribery, made against Ames by this man McComb; | said "You know who McComb ist” he replied, “Yos;" it "i not necessary for me to state what was said im regard to him; he had come to the conclusion that it he would bo mixed up in a suit of that kind, or if there was to be shadow or suspicion of any ‘it ite he did not wish to remain in the company; lnm T did not sce any impropricty in his owning twon rea of stock or in hiswite owning it; it was a bona Ade transaction: I was bought with her own monoy, as T inyaclf know. beoause & um had bees mage up by Mr. Ames, myself and mai other partics aaa present fo Mrs. Wilson on the occ of their silve: j aitorward I saw M fold me ‘shown what ir. had done; I told him I “ua not see any uso in his vine Ht back, wih if he chose to glvo up w at honestly it was not for ject; I nnatan ising. this @ iilustration with jd I, “You say you have no belict whateve: improperly in any arges’ that Mr. Ames acted way?” he said, 8 offered hin the he knew, only. to Sionont Aina” "Wiinon,” then said 1, “haye you not the courage, to keop’ that stock + jrould you get, frightened and, return It to, i a pic! et should £, ef It minkoit or think that fo°uho" itu sald, “I do not know. but you aro. ri ot want even a breath of # 080 itis myself fn as poor as may be, and always want to be rather ave even a ‘suspicion that 1 oF my wife have inade 31,000 of ® transaction rong. fully ; what is that tome? a pat eit all taken back; I SSow. that if there is 4 man who thin; xe not want bn fab anything do with it, not that I ha ° the slightest picion thi rt, Ames had any wroi ae Ie tentions in ‘any shape or manner, for I do know Lhad no! Q. Please get on as Tepe sap possible. You understood the money was paid bi ison or Mrs, Wilson? A. L have understood so since ; = ver heard any more about it; the charge was made tn the news apers bis last: Fall; then he told me it was all pe back, and I suppose it was paid at the time. MR. SCOFIELD, OF PENNSYLVANIA, BEFORE BLEO- TION, (Extract from his wren denial, September 14, Tunderstand that I and others in Congress in 1867-8 are accused of receiving stock of a company called the “Credit Mobiller,” as an inducement or reward for pase in esi legisiation favorable to the Union Pacific = nae ‘hi cha aw is utterly untrue, so far asi am e truth is { never owned, th any sabe oF form, aehareor scent oC it MR. SCOFIELD, OF PENNSYLVANIA, AFTER ELECTION, (Extract from Oakes Ames’ testimo! 4 Mr. Scofield frequeatly talked with me very carly in the enterprise about having some stock in ree Credit and Turged him to take some, as I did a that time I had got a number of membet Congress to yo in with mes Mossra. Grimes, Hooper and Alley, as I have stated; it was perfectly notorious that [ urged every member of Congress whom 1 knew had any money to idvest to do so, from first to last, until ry share of the stock in the Credit Mobilier was taken, and Do one suspected any wrong untill the enterprise Proved CD paged success; Yon the contrary, everzDon, that did so was congratulated throughout the country ot their sourage, (s jonterprise and patriotism; Mr. Scofield agreed to take ten share rwvards | took itand a paid me ear and interest; subsequently he bes with it, assigning that he had heard there wi responsibility, and roturned It; I took it back, ast had agreed to do with him, as in almost every instance I had done; I never sold any stock to Mr. Fowle! @. in relerence to Mr. Scodold you sey that he fro- quently talked with you very carly, in ¢ e Create and that you advised him to take stoc t ‘ho agreed to take ten shares, and avterwards OOK i payin wy it at par and accrued interest; ubsequently be- Caine dissatished ‘with it and retarned it; Mr. Scofeld Was to have ten shares of this stock, and "paid the par vee, onit? A. Yes, sir. rds he became dissatisfied and you took sir. yi repaid this money? A. Yes: f think so. . Did he Fecelve sey dividend ytieng the time he had “A. J iin. he @ oa kuow tho amount? A. N ; Did he retain whi div sent iy ‘fia receive? A. n rtf ny tmpression that he di not recollect all these transac that this ‘was quite early An, the ‘enter. Tam not ceriain; T can- . You prise—can you state what tue it wast A. No, sir: Mr, SCotteld and {boarded together in’ 1s6band 1407, and had Very frequent talks about the matter, and J urged him to take br Q. Do you know at what time he did take it? A. I told him a long while before, in 1966 and 1807, that I would yet some of it for him. @- Can you tell at what time he paid you the money for it?” A. Tt'way after the stock was awatded to me for dis- «tribution, in December, 1867; he ‘could not have had the stock until after that. . You received ‘31,000 from him? Yes. When the contract was rescinded and the money was oe to him, what wasdone then! A, I cannot recollect, Q. Was there say thing more than the $1,000 returned f A ‘on t T cannot recollect. Can you recollect at what time this matter was re- selnided ? A. No, sir. MR. H. L. DAWES, OF MASS., BEFORE ELECTION. Pirrsrinip, Mass, Sept. 11, 1872, My Dear Str—* * * Neither Oakes Ames nor any other man, dead or alive, ever gave me, directly or indirectly, | apenny of the stock of the Credit Mobilier or of | other corporation in this world. I never owned a dollar of any stock of any, property of any Kind that I did not pay the full value of with my own money, earned with my own labor. ‘Truly yours, DAWES, MR. H. L. DAWES AFTER ELECTION, [Testimony of J. B. Alley on Mr. Dawes.] Mr. Dawos came to me and said he had been talking with Mr. Ames about Credit Mobilier ; he said he went to Mr. Ames to buy a Loud of $1,000 in oue of the Towa rail- fide; Mr. Ames had sold several th d doliars worth orthem, I think, to Goverugr ‘Washburn that he ad been told that I was a director of this Credit Mobilicr and would kaow all about it; cm he had understood it investment it was he would bawes “is ”'s moderately ‘hee taiked to. mre. aomettings te wvhich | was very, matural ue; when he came to me he sal iat Re went to ME Ames to buy this bonds that str, Ames had said he had none he could let him have, but that he could give him something better than that,’ and thst ke then told him about the Credit Mobilier; that he | asked Mr. Ames if he thought it way a good thing, and Mr. Ames replied that It was, and that Mr. Alley could } tell him all about it; that Mr. Ames had remarked that ir was not entirely satisfied with it he could bring if back and he rroeld money atany time; I told Mr. Dawes that thi a re safe, of course said he was going to take it, he did take it; told me afterward that his Mesgnbor Larned, in Pitta. field, had said to him that the Credit Mobilier belonged war | to him, and that he w: ohne te oe lawsuit about It, ras qolng fo oust Ames, Alley and all of us; he sald t mean told hin it meant it pothing; ihe did not like it at jot want to be in & Company where there was to be such a sult as that; ac- to that man’s statement there Would be a pretty h T heard no more about y out im the papers; then Mr. Dawes ithe atthat time yave it back to Mr. Aime: ‘and he was very glad he did so because of this fuss; mentioned it to Mr. Ames, who told me it was so; that is all there was of that case. MA OH, L. DAWBS AT THE CONFESSIONAL AFTER ELECTION. Tdid agree take ten shares of that stock, bat the eecerte rescinded Detore. the stock’ Was trans: Fred to me, and it never was transferred; at the = feemoement of the session in December, 1867, I had dae Sergeant-at-Arms’ office $1,000 of my salary iy or ent Vacot nbolengee of ann, ee eee for ok Eas ‘Oakes tines. sa ing thai “ had ren uur L$ moube oft r ninety ese bouds for thought it an ex. to M 19 ty Tet thot it Bet! | for 1; n shares of Gr Creat <ibilier sock sald to vii did not know an; him to tell thing shout that ‘stock, and gerpor Montract, for balla the contract good thing, and T it mane wae you it of ah Lf guarantee you pe oe os es eal ian Tat at we ck think “ot gia a ve, Kee tiy ‘oul aired of Mr. Alley about stock ; need not take Ht, Iwill ‘pay you back y stock was never trans:crred to me ith aod bo we. be olation with decon a Prgminens Fopublicns oiticials were maac Curing tho matter, every ‘opportuuit ry of Investi is wen! te make up i sho amount which was, to go to Be. Brooks; Te paseln; hat wi hot I “ion't Know. oe ee tie onid te wae geod stook, aaa thought it was; th Sirians anaee ofered, to guarauten or cout oad ae y, but we fe Br, foals An ince and iio that tv feud 4 ‘anit his home: Shane the pot, ranater eo it tome me havo it; I therefore paid him over the one thousand doll: ond took his scoousienie receipt for it, he saying t the time he gay me, that if at any time I got sic! ott ‘he er ent Ine itt back ane | cme ok Mm: moony. n ote Pliake Sasion torge hom titel ‘and while there. Mr. fed. peer aaetet ghithe fo Kane eae Ne taeond, came oltice mo gf a suit which Duff Green had Pt. vy (o a, pt to Gommence, in the Penner vans courts testo oot of the Credit Mobilice charter, oles oxscssiont ter, claiming that it ongod to hum m aud his associates, and had been wrong- naa of by Mr. Ames and those con: nected Po when oT returned, to Washing: on mes what ‘Learned sala ‘to wt and told “hin that want any such he | replied, | “Wel prefer" 2 "told. him me th that way, alow aying tne back. t mney tn fore Twent to Fittsnelds ke had paid 1,1 do not know how much it was, cont; whatever it was he tig me over tho I think it was about thir hve allowed him in the seftlomon| this was the end of the transaction; tho all. we Only; MR. JAMES BROOKS BEFORE INVESTIGATION, (In the House of Representatives, Dec. 17, 1872.] Mr. Buoors, rising to 8 question of privilege, noticed the “siatcimont ining New Your Bakauo. that MeCompb had testified before tho Oredit: Mobilies inyoalt dir, Brooks) hi fins Committee that ho ad received cer- in shares of stock to o. ghee ih influence him, at th him the democratic side of iy Pier ted iene an ie ae yng ra wracife pul ti lifo a quarter fa contury eh nt was mene aeco! Hime in whio! ‘had felt A a ity to Tepel & perso; irge of that wiry ie Whon charges al campaign in connection with this samo i mets Brooks) hag aioe. himsolt of ‘of iy, Public and to say that there was no trath in them so far as ne. knew, and he spoke with some authority, a4 he was and had ben f many years a goverment ‘director of the Union Paciflo Railroad Company, to which he had been priginall ap: pointed by President Johnson; he utterly dented tho Featemont ‘now made with regard to himself by this same McComb, and ridiculed the idea of his atigm plans to intiu- ence democratic membors tor @ bribe of ity shares of Credit Mob liies stock representing $5,000; a ete re owned, directly on indirectly, @ singlo shai Credit = Mobilier stock, ‘dexpi ite the | testimon: th olo thing was figun 's villanous imagination; &, person who and ifthat person pe a wee 80 Responses, for that; ho underst Person hat Pought fifty sharos ofthat stock. ee var ‘es 5.333, and utofrthat figment, poor at_ McComb had telaeieo tae ehoie story al shares boing given to him (Mr. Brooks) to buy up the whole democratic side of the House. In conclusion he appealed to the Commit- igation to search his conduct from Legiuning to end; to riddle him from top to bottom, and if they et) eae any ia fault in him to report it to the House, and to isgrace COLONEL woou’s VERSION OF THE BROOKS-NEILSON STOOK, {From Colonel McComb's "testimony before the committee.) Mi wht 0 . Brooks is @ member of tho sent Cor Thu ou gine what knowledge you nave iu relal ation to a to his stoc Witnoss-Am I obliged to answor that quostion ? Chairman—The committee desire you to answer it. A. AlLL know in regard to Mr. Brooks reectving any of tho stock is this—i saw Mr. Brooks aud Mr. Ailcy to- ether several mes, and 4 ieard Mr. Brooks pressing Alloy to let hun have ity shares of the Cred biligr stock, and Theard him say to Mr. Alley Uintit he would accord him that privilege and give him tho stoc he would take caro of tho democratic side o' House; Mr. Brooks was at tho time either a govern: ment director or said ho would have himself made government director of the Union Pacific Railroad ; t overheard such conversation between Mr. Mr. Alley on several occasions about that tino; Mr. Alle finally consented o give, him fiity shares of it that stoc and it was transferrod to Mr. oF to his son-in-law, ny esis when. the transter was pledge that Mr. Brooks should _ . What is Neilson’ ‘sfullname? A. Charles M. Neilson; T think ee was along in the Fall of 1863, Q GR na Co icon Nea to these letters that you have pro- ‘ou ‘understana that fifty sharos of stock went to Mr, Boks and that he had the. pavan of ith a any payment? a0 xs tons; the par value of accrued dividends ; I trie: Ky follow access: the Credit Mobilier led books to me ; I was not all toexamino hem, Do you undorstand that the fifty shares Lig | went ota Pooks were 8 portion of the ohare ito Mr. nya sey A. Only from Mr. Ames’ et hirty -twe aharos of that amount put into bk i remark; whether it was true or 8 © © # «@ tee that it was in the latter aq Sea of Crodit I'said, inemoranda in regard to anoiher Circumstance by ' which I tix" the time when Nr. Alley and Mr. Brooks had the conversation referred to “with regard to the @ity shares of stock. ks say in that conversation, distinehy, tint he frou take care of the democratic side of the House} My. Alley expressed great disregard and con- tempt for Mr. Brooks, and Mr. ‘Brooks was about quent in his expressions of kindly regard tor Mr, Alley they both appeared, separately, to havo about the «aie viow of each other; but, together, they hobnobbed tn regard to this stock, and it disgusted me with both ot thea; thero was atable- in the secon’ room of the omce of the Union Pacific Railroad Company, corner of Cedar and Nassau streets, at which I was entering when Mr, y and Mr. Brooks took seats at tl posite end of the fable and discussed Credit Mobiller stock; Mr. Brooks wasimploring Mr. Alley togive these shares to bim, urging that he had rendered services worthy uf return, Mr. Alley thought it was a preity good thing, and did tot want to lot #t go; he wanted a tinger in it himself; I imagine they had soveral interviews, and I heard the conversation take place to which I’ have referred when Mr. Alley awarded the stock amd said, “I guess wo will have to let him have it;” Mr. Brooks made the remark distin that he would ‘take care of the democratic side of tho house ; the remarks hie made '@ you, Alicy, and the reply was, “Woll, I guoss we will to let him mnct now give vou the’ date; my recolleo- tit was in the Fali of 1837 or in ‘188, ‘runnin 71 think itwas certainly within 3; Mr. Brooks was very frequently in the Office of the Union Pacie Railroad. THE SON-IN-LAW OF MR, BROOKS AT THE CONFES- SIONAL, Mr. Nellson, being sworn, testified that he resides tn in New York and operates in stocks; had held stocks in the Credit Mobilier Company, first t became the holder of the first hundred shares in 1867, De 26; am son- inw of the Hon, Jainos Brooks. Witness produced certificates of stock in the Credit Mobilier: the first tificate being for 100 shares, dated December 26, 1867, and the second for fifty shares, dated February 29,1863; wit- ness subscribed originally to the 100 shares. Q. Did you sign tor them? A. I do not recollect; the Hon. James Brooks, my father-in-law, put me in the Ww. of getting that stock by advancing the money; all the dividends tome and [got the money; Mr. Brooks did the bu he told withess that he had a chance to put him in the Credit Mobilier, and did so; witness w: hat present at the negotiation: don’t remember who fur. nished the certificate; did not remember how he came in possession of the certificate, hatter arranged between you and Mr. yonce to tho money pat a, fhe arta fe: fe simply by Mr. Brooks advancing ft money, and I received’ the dividends; I gave no nec. rity to Mr, Brooks when the in ed; Kave no note of bond ; did not thin t ne between father and son; I began to receive dividends very shortly ater getting the stock; received one dividend in money amounting to $9,000; do not remember when; had repaid a portion of the money to Mr. Brook: 3. > Crowexamined by Mr. MeComb—Received the shates additional stock by virtue of his ownership of 1 shares; did not remember having received a notice that he was entitled to the fifty shares additional; Mr. Brooks paid for 100 shares; witness did not pay for it; ben he went to the oles to get the stock he found aid for and in his name; did not remem! Whether he recelved ‘any dividend ‘whon he got hin c te of 100 shares; received dividends about the th ot the cert! denis as they we tifteate he did not remember what he received; remem dered iar ‘a receipt, but did not remember what he got for It; Brooks is in the habit of putting witness into ood I Investments; did not remember any particular one; ee | okt him he was entitled to fi y shares addi- tonal: did not remember from ‘whom he’ received the dividends, cr) RAL GARFIELD BRFORE AND AFTER ELECTION. General Garfleld’s denial of all connection with the Crédit Mobilier was as distinct and emphatic before election as was that of Senator Wilson him- self, For the contrast after election we refer to the confession of General Warfield before the Investi- gains Committee, published elsewhere in the HEKALD te-day. This ends the first chapter of com- parative statements of the implicated operators in that portion of the Crédit Mobilier stock that was “placed where it would do most good.”” POLAND'S SPECIAL COMMITTEE, The Proceedings Yesterday- MeComb’s Charac- ter Not To Be Inquired Into—General Gar- field’s Statement—Testimony of Mr, Ham—Some of the Members of Con- gress Interested—Brooks’ Profit— Dr. Durant on the Stand. Wasainotox, Jan. 14, 1873, Judge Poland's special committee to inquire into the distribution of Credit Mobilier stock among members of Congress resumed its session this morning. The Chalr- man announced that the request of Mr. Brooks, made yesterday, to have certain records of the War Depart- ment reflecting upon Mr. McComb in other transactions produced, coukl not be granted, as these records had nothing to do with the Credit Mobilier investigation, and would not be competent testimony. The rules of evi- dence must be followed, and it was not competent to in- quire into other transactions of Mr. McComb. Mr. Brovks. said the alegation had been made by Mr. McComb that Mr. Alley had given him (Mr, Brooks) fifty shares of (Crudit Mobiiier stock to Influence democratic members of r. Alley had denied that state- Brent, and the ¢ iat rt whether Mr, Alley or Mr. Agcaea, fmouly be credi so understand, but the testimony is ond e Poland. junissab! to Toga aly. NEILSON RECALLED. Mr. Charles i. Neilson was then recalled, and in an- gwer to a question of Mr. Smithers, counsel for Mr. Mo- Comb, A. ined that by Leng five thousand “gentioman and dollar: Dillons ane that . about he pee age the transaction, havin fF. Brooks: Casual interviews with him been intre ~y tions with hi hi i epaiiee or tone gave bil Dillon S rerten ae Joan the money; the Sorrow _ ye ‘ROW, a msunbor of oe of ; coqeiatod of shook of the Unten posite Ralieced Company Of tho oad; tho, 0 bonds. took was sferred to wit ‘inormation fc he fe aa. fo Atty shaven Credit Mobiiler ad: jitional came | from ir James A. Gar fas sworn, and mado fol- tn = ey Held was swo STATEMENT GARFIRUD. The first, I ever ueard of the Oredic Mobilier Iwas some time in 1366 or 1867,1 cauneg tx the Francis Train called’ on mo and organi a Rey to beknawe, asthe eect of ti France;t Ut. Rian ng qusect yen at points Arey A ol A had no vested would’ doubie or treble iwelt each year, What sub- i are Limited to $1,000 each, ani ED MR A LONG LIST OY suasOMinEns, ‘among them Mr. Oakes ‘AUBSORIBE ; BR UOWED rhom he referred me for turiber: eee ee the enterprise; I answered that I had not the money Spare, an ited T would not subscribo without iowin ore. aes, roposed ea ted By AR le! at ele ei ‘woul o Ce) to agpeoribe i asked MM: 3 tt noes the n that tho im card nothing furier a ey and it was almost {01 a cog the tong piney m kaee rors ori fr aoatn: the compan: p mad ore wan doing well, pad’ he thou ought wo ay "ia argo dlvidendy ho wad that some ofthe stock find bosn Lele or was to bo let in is hands tosoli, and I could tako the amount which in fercd me by by ‘paying the and accrued he said if I was not able to pay for it then he distor mo ‘unui T could ine ‘or until some of nds wore payablo; I told hiin'l would consider ter, but to tak ares UOW from ah examination ot arter the conditions of the sul lon the extent to which I should trout pecuniari Hable, he id'have thon v7 L rouabiy Hoon ontised in" re. we OF FROUNARY, LUABILILT: thus the ination, Treated tor somo timo—I think following aeats during that time me I under: were one den eens oeneet to nearl: per value of the stock Ria meant tat the company wesinvolved in some ‘the Pacific Kailroad—that Nr. Ames’ stock was denied; when I noxt saw Mr. and pr ibject for a year £, more, cues ime I shou! + stoct errs ee ‘wil srouid nave ken tho stock if I hi mee I told him CONCLUDED NOT TO TAKE THE STOOK; then tho matter ended so far as I was concerned, ond: t had no further eo wiedee OF of the ood i perations until the subject be; discussed on wa last Fall nothing wasevor pau to ma Mr. A Ind seariagied or unply that ‘tho edit Mobilior ‘was or could be in any way connected with the Pay ross for the Pacific Railroad, or for any othor Purpose; Mr. Amos never gave of offered to me any stock or other valuable thing as a gitt; I once optained trom him, ‘ds re) to hit that amount Fecotved from or dell: ‘eed to rosea 2h stook of the iroad, nor any dividend : Poland, Mr. Garfield he had no knowledge of any dealing of Mr. Ames arith any oa in Congress in retoreace to Credit Mobilie: mnaraLe TRAIN AB 4 Mm yy Judge ‘old Mr. ‘Ames he woul Wot have any stork wheres ‘controversy existed ved his pal ont opinion and knowledge of the Oredit Mobilicr ‘from fir ‘hate novor said the first word to witness to influ- onco his legislative action. By Jud, me ey Merrick—Has no Raowiedse of any other momber ol agrees, having Cridit Mobilior Stooky never saw & Sharon of it until Mr. mnoks oxhibited one in the House a few days ago; supposed Nr. Amos was largely interested in the ae jon F P ey bie i Ben‘amin FP, in New York; was Auditor of the U Vinton Bae R Railroad from January, bel th Or sistant Secretary tion; tho iatter, now, tite custody of the boo hat company, and derod them to be delivered hore by the express com! & portion of the books were im Pluladelphia, but ha gent on hore: the otuer portion witness brought, with iin from Now York; had met Ouartes Hi, Neilso, of Ork; his hate appoars as one of the shareholders of the compat TO THK EXTENT OF ONK HUNDRED AND FIFTY SHARKS, nd supposes the shares belong to him ; has no personal knowlodge of Mr. James Brooks having an rost in those shares; hasno recollection of Mr. Brooks having had anything to ‘do with the shares; the dividends wore to Mr. Neilson, | Witness here Brod luced the stock | five certificate books and tho lotter tok ol the Oredie Mobilier and exhibited on the stock Charles H. Noilson ns the owner of 100 shares; also the Feceipt for the certificate trausforred to him by Thomas GC, Durant; Mr. Nelison was entitled to tional in consequence of owning 100 shares; the new stock was made ln February, 1867; interest on tho new stock commenced July in x ‘THK AMOUNT over five thousand ‘dollars, for the 8 sdaitonal shares was interest; the first 100 shares. which in the namo of Durant had been paid tor by Durant: there was nothing oxhibitod entrige show show been transferred to B. — shares to H, J. ny of the stock standin fr ‘ustoe, had been sold Tay sell any dividends which hi stock standing in paid to him: Pa pa the pend standing in his ‘mame aa trustee: the Credit Mobilier made one dividend, ha oe it was paid by witness; the ate domd was six per cots pai Pacific Railwa: to show whethor Mr. Neilson or some one else paid ior. the ik. ¢ witness then exhibited ine account or Mr. Durant and pointed out where the I shares hi ber Pa soon by that Gentleman pat Cy > of pl gam a) ioned Mr. to H. Crane. ‘itnoss ee twenty.dve shares had trubt for Mra Boyor ‘in tho namo of Mr "see me or it he had contract ad been declared to m the as stockholder; the company recognized no one except tho name be on the book, ‘itness here produced a letter book, and testified that li was the only one the company ever had; there was nothing dn it relating to the sharcs standing In the name of Mr. Nellson; the naines of nelthor Dawes, Garfield, eid nor Ke Mat? peared on the books? cond not expiain how it was that sock had been made out in the name of Mr, Nellon before he paid for ef i with had no positive knowledge as to why the Credit tobi was abandoned and the Aines contract entercd : Mr. Durant could give the whole history of that. MEMBERS OF CONGRESS INTERFSTKD, Q. By Mr. McCreary—Do your hooks show that ca member of Congres was interested im the Credit Mobl- lier? A. Yes, sir. Q. Who were they? A. Mr. Samuel Mi ot Pensa ivanie : r. Grimes and Mr. All origins r, Mr. Boyer, ley; they were Hi rou any knowledge of their holding stock x 'y ee Pe in the hame of Oakes Ames, trustee t is one the the mm January to out remember Ww ‘hat the price was in Decembe , 1868; it was considered wet, bs Jeast thes e ‘dividends on Union Pacific Railroad stock had gone Oe since shen. mene Black—Knew nothing about any shares set ops to be distributed at Washington among mempers of Congress or e! aid for 9 0 shares in mes his name as trustee;' Mr. Ames took the the shares; Mr. Crane can explain of the Oakes Ames contract: witness hai nothing. PD. 73 with thi the fitty shares were not transferred by Mr. wifes to Mr. Neilson; it was a new subscription to new ock ; the books were taken to Philadelphia ity one time avoid judicial process in the State of New York; Oliver Ames was ‘A LARGER STOCKHOLDER THAN OAKES Aw: Durant was algo a larze stockholder; the Credit Mobilicr bought the bonds which they gave jividends from the Union Pacific Raiiroad ‘Company at cighty-five cents and ry for them out of the poe Ay which they received from he new. _ Subscriptions; no officer of the company has the right to put up the stock for sale ; witnoss might have received ial instructions irom the officers of the compan, ig had a good deal of influence among the stoc! id not see Mr. Aliey looking over the books + I took «lively interest in the Grédit Mol iter. i Credit Mobdilier was never other business ex- a ich it is ‘now aes ing. to do—dissolve its corporate capacity and ro ler ite charter; heard nothing of any Boh oe by which shares held by Neil- son were to be benefit of Mr. Brooks; man: of the papers and books were lost ‘ithe 8 ¢ of the ed ‘were removed from the office by Mr. Dillon: part of them went travelling, to avoid letting people see om who had ag” interest in them. VEN TP FISK Is DEAD? Q. Had not the Court ordered them? A. No, sir; they etc never ordered: It they were ts they were out of the ‘aad fe ti the State, Are ss those books: Stilt ‘ying "rrom the same pur- No, sir; Mr. Fisk is dead. hes but hag! general public has an interest in this il, A. In the first place I deny that the public i a na interess in this matter ; itis only a few pows- By you know what has become of the stock transfer ae No, sir; it eed red. . Where has It disappeared tot A. I dons know, Did you not destroy it? A. No, sir; I did not. Vitness further testified that he never kept a blotter, and, in aS eectens iad aanee a Judge Posgnd, sais a supposed some! had signed a paper authorizing the faue of ity shares additional to Mr: Newson KEKFING THE HOOKS FROM THY STOCKHOLDERS, By Mr. Alloy—At the the the increase in the capital parton! pes le many of the stockholders declined to id not remember of any stockholders being re- fared th on the books of the, ca any; the books were ken away on account of the Fisk suit, and not to keep ks oral trom the stockholders. cr aon oe Ro Pong ap or belief as to where [4 a Ay can give no clew as 4 where they may be; rink not oF remember of secing ‘alte name on tl f, paper Waich authorized the issue of ny shares additi 10 Neilson. By Judge Blick—Did not remember what was in the answer to the summons to produce the books in the Penn sylvania suit; may have sald the books were in daily use. By Judge Me: rick Alley, Hazard and Dillon were the Principal managers of the it Mobilier, (. Crane was sworn :—Resides in ‘Yonkers, N. Y.; wasa director ot the Union Pacific Railroad Company hort t ime, while it was being built; owned stock in lobilier ; was cept the ASSISTANT TREASURMR OF THE COMPANY, whee Do you eo gnything of the transfor of stock to Mr. je owt x e i it *— O; oe Mth of December, 1367, paid me by a check and gave me drat for 6,90 for which’! transferred to Mr. Charles zon, at the request of, Mr. B Credit Mobilter and 200 shares Ic Ral believe I delivered to him the t me da Res bonds of the Union Pacific Railroad. rant’s. I know nothing about any negotiation for the pa a A of Ig stock, never having heard any conver- Q Why rite hyd teltver to him the first bonds? A. My ambinorada sy ChADIT On THR CREDIT mopitie Q So for this iaeed ‘the com; any parted with 100 of its mae Pena og Me n jon Pacific Railroad shares and five rst m A. No, sit; Mr. pert Oe: pe gompany "hice to do'with ity’ do jeilson = present whe: en the transaction with Mr. Netlton) pubes Brooks ace; he and cePtioate oF of stook ; is spn first mortgage Bo Worthan vec cent PROFIT REALIZED Broogs ? know, str; 1 thought he hat fect fear en know what wei Dun of to make the Taner, fo. ere were several di C1 then; the 200 oharcs ot Union tock were yon ay, oan oe on the dollar at least; knows nothing. f the 'Netison; a ff rant dre esce reli "ai nag w Ni By Mr. ys: create dra cid » Brooks was paid on ie Brooke 90 70 know what cout: oa a anaes toon eleven Pe pergent; shares addi- , toan to Me. Durant? dividends on the actions on the divi- ier wore with Mi selison, art : aciwver ior the if 7 book, and tir; T took «cop Miaseftupeliomeseas cohen ie that arele and follo’ “December 24, 1867, ntock account mora Hobiler oA fimorien.= ran: nooks" sof stock, five bom 8 of iy Urton ifte Sompany #7050 cn cash dea ie aod 2 Ks? A Sinuarye Soi 2 as, 0 meat Wook Paicth at National by Recess for ‘diteon tm minutes, press ME. BERUAMIN F. HAM RECALLED. oo roti bidepkacaae Monte tear geenty K showing that Mr. Ain AY Pvarious sharos; a wi ea had pal rr the entry of the transfer of shares to ror nnd the vod therefor under tho entry, of March i, ‘Witness referred to the name erty ane i Rellaon ri on the book, showing tho Cslnate sou, whose hame had beon writte tire was id testified that it was in re had been made betore efioat was waitton, Burne did not remember what was erased WR HAD NO MEMORY AT ALL in reference to theerasure. The erasure was in the place where the name shoul be. By Ju Black—Was in the habit of making mistak. it he wi the name of James Brooks before the erasure ho had Ly authority to do so, as the stock belonged to i Neilson, Is not the crasuro of a name and the substitution of a rname @ taisification of your recoid? A. It do- os s sa galego er how the Court would take such entry, jrooks—Never received any instruction trom alr. robs to erase hil frye : it might have been probable that Mr. Brooks’ as wri instead of seat ea account of the e ntimate compaction vee a4 4 ir. Brooks!’ name Ww: thore drat it was a tstak Ke. ANT ON Tie STAN a Durant m sworn—Witness resides in New Bs bl road Soa Cooper aad tehiseta older in the Uni Pacific Railroad Compan: id @ director therein ; consed A director in May oF ‘sume, 18005 wad stockholder fa the PGrewit Bohiller tie? &e aan eiersan sigakholéers, and wrest pid was one the Board ot Swhom. ie Ames contract 3 yi not ‘the that ro ned ; now, but Sy certified copies hereots Paper to distribute somo stock said to be on hand; stock was transterred to witness tocnable him to engagements made prior to that time; knew nothit to wyom Mr. Ames was to transfer his stock; heard epeak of it two or threo times; said ho yee) Oe a COLAX; think some other mombors of Congress were mentioned; mado an in ression on the witness at the time, as le thought mes was giving those names and intended the. ‘stock himself; never had any conversation Iharles Li. Neilson; did hi have a transaction with Mr, James Brooks which ‘was pure! between Ar, Brooks and himsolt, and had no reference whatever to Mr. Brooks being a member ot Comareees it was notin m consideration, pray past services ron the fun any to bo ;that gentleman ex- eased a the stock, and witness arrai have 100 sharos, with the agreement to let worth of Union Vacific nds; Mr. Brooks, being not went to hold the (oase¥ ort overnment director, di ere! it transferred to Mr. Neilson; knew about the fifty shares additional stock received by. N son, witness being absent from the country at that ti ‘THE STOOK INCREASED IN VALUE SUDDKNL| witness lot Mr. Brooks prt the Le pe in consid leclared the Conca at in part payment Ui taken fri obligation to Mr. Brooks, paving agreed with him that he shouid have the stock; had borrowed money from Mr. Brooks, but did not let him have the stock is Fe sepals tion of being un nder any money obligation to Without finishing the examination of Mr. ‘Durant the committee, at twenty minutes past four o'clock P. M., ad- Journed until ten o'clock to-morrow. WILSON'S SPECIAL COMMITTEE. pach cilciinie) Examination of B. F. Hall—The Original Stockholders of Credit Mobilier and the Amount of Stock Subscribed. The Wilson special committee met to-night, at half-past seven o'clock. Among those present wore Messrs, McComb, Ames and Alley. Mr. B. F. Hall was aworn and examined by the Chairman. He testified that he knew of the Orédit Mobilier organization, of which he is the assistant secretary and treasurer, also a director; he produced, by request, the act of incorporation, which was put in evidence; he knew of only one amendment to the act; the corporation was organized May 29, 1863; the original stockholdera and the amount of stock subscribed were as follows:—Charles M. Hall 2,495 shares, R. W. Barnes 2,496 shares; three or four other parties had stock; he aid not know now who they were; that was long before he had anything to do with the concern; he did not know whether there are any books showing who all the original stockholders were; some of the books were lost, including the transfer books of stock; he did not know what had become of them ; he resigned his position in Decem- , 1868, and was re-elected secretary in 1870, The witness subsequently found and produced a book containing the names of the original stock- holders, There were 37,500 shares of Crédit Mo- biller capital—$3,750,000—all paid in cash,*dollar fer dollar. The witnesa commenced reading from books, showing in 1864and 1865 the names of the holders of stock and the seen paid by them, As this busipess was likely to occupy too much of the time of the committee witness was requested to furnish a tlst of the stockholders, the dates they procured the stock and the several amounts. He was further examined as to the organization of the corporation. Only one dividend had been declared a the Crédit Mobilier, which was in December, ;_{t was six per cent for each of the years 1966 ant "1867. In 1867, when the capital stock was in- creased, stock could be bought for ninety cents; but after THE MAKING OF OAKES AMES’ CONTRACT stock was considered worth two or three hundred percent, On cross-examination witness said he would be able to exhibit all the books sorte the transactions except those relating to transfer of stock. But this deficiency he could make up from the books of debit and credit of stockholders. He had no idea that the transfer books were ab- stracted for aay, ae old his opinion was that they were misiaid. Witness was examined at length with reference to the Union Pacific Rail- ne Company 1n its relations with the Crédit Mo- er. Oakes Ames was examined as to the cost of tne Union Pacific Railroad, saying, among other things, the profits were about seven millions on the io ena of sixty millions for building and equipping the road. ‘he committee adjourned at eleven o'clock till half-past ten to-morrow morning. . RAPID TRANSIT aT LAST, gan on the New Road—The to be Made Betw t City Hall and Harlem River in Twenty- two Minutes—One Thousand Men to be Put to Work. Within two years we shall have rapid transit. A reporter of the HERALD called yesterday on tne Superintending Engineer of the Fourth avenue improvement, Mr. Isaac C. Buckhout, who com- | municated to him the following facts:—The entire work, from the CITY HALL TO THE HARLEM RIVER, will be dnished in two years, probably by the 1st of January, 1875. It is the intention of Commodore Vanderbilt to open the railroad at that time. It will certainly obviate all the difficulties in the way of rapid transit. It will daily accommodate 400,000 passengers. The distance from the City Hall to the Grand Central depot will be made in twelve minutes, and from the depot to the Harlem River in ten minutes, so that the happy N New Yorker who | is in business negr the City Hall will be able to REACH HIS HOME on the Harlem River in twenty-two minutes. The work from the depot to the Harlem River is divided into three sections. The first section, irom Forty- fifth to Forty-uinth street, is already’ under con- tract, and let to Fairchild & Ward: the second sec- tion, from frectierass to Seventy-ninth street, was get ie wor esterday, and the third section, from venty-ninth street to the Harlem River, was let ix weeks ago to Dillon, Clyde & Co, Three hun- dred men are already at work om this section alone. The work is progressing rapidly. Two rock tun- Nels are being butt at Yorkville, and trestle-works over the Harlem flats (in which the trains will rua whi e the viaduct ia being constructed). A Dumber of men are at work rock-cutting at Snake Bill, south of 125th street. The section through Harlem from 125th street to the Harlem River is = excavated below the avenue grade. The bein; ik there. Te eon Sorneoe the Board of Engineers for tne Fourth avenue improvement held a meeting to award the contract for the work between Forty- ninth aad Seventy-ninth streets. Present were jesers. Alien Cam) bekge R. Tracey and ts Isaac ©. ects mt, Mr. tah (4 wal Graven. grete over we er n- a | Renan Baitimore, and others and ders svood 6 outside anxiously waiting for the result. Afver's consultation laating two the Board y aWARD THE OONTRACT to Dillon, cryae & Co., who have niteady ‘the con- tract for the work from Seventy-ninth street to the Harlem River. Mr. Buckhout declined to give bod reporters the amount of the bid, but said t tl sum total would come within the estimates of the Qhief Engineer. The amount of the bond furnished by Messrs. Dillon, Cly: Co. is $800,000, They have now the contracts for the entire work from Forty-ninth street to the Harlem River. Th tract will be inaea and Con ti days, and the details will Ln be lic, AS 8000 as the contract is Mr. oa said, the contractors will set 1,000 men 10 we Eeeence rk ore Lk APTER THE CRIMINALS. District Attorney Phelps Prepared to De His Duty. Murderers and Offenders Generally To Be Looked After Promptly, NO UNDUE HASTE AND NO HALTING JUSTICE, As this 1s the season of reform, and the cry goes up from the heart of the people, “Give us prompt and stern justice for murderers and all others who defy and break the laws and trample down the protecting barriers of society," the oftice of District Attorney assumes an importance it has not had heretofore. The pew incumbent of the office, Mr. Benjamin K. Phelps, is by BO means & sanguinary man. If appearances are not deceitful he has much of the milk of human kindness in his nature, His full, Norid face and the soit melody of his voice comport unevenly with our ideal of a relentioss vindicator of outraged justice; but as judges and juries have the major share of the responsibility te shoulder for all the failures of the law, past, pres ent and to come,.and the District At torney is supposed to fulfl his duties When he indulges.im no delay in bringing before the available Courts such indictments against criminals as the grand juries may find, there ap pears no occasion for his being a person of blood thirsty instincts, The mildest-mannered man that ever presided over a temperance tea party is com- petent enough to give an eflicient discharge to the requirements of the office of District Attormey he will only act honestly and promptly. No mons ter of inhumanity is demanded for the place. BVEN-HANDRD JUSTICB between the State and the criminal 18 all that t called for, and on this t.e public volce appears te insist. Mr. Phelps has been left a legacy of work larger than that with which most of his predecessors have been called upon to grapple at the outset of their oficial term. Happily for him he enters upon his Quties at a time when public opinion sets as @ strong flood tide in behalf of the retributive vindt cation of law andorder. The trammels of politica which, like the folds of an anaconda, twisted around and paralysed any vitality of effort on the partof the prosecuting agent of the people are broken, and a fair, unfettered course is open to our new officer of justice tospeak out bravely on the side of a long and muclhssutfering community, Areporter of the HERALD called yesterday upon Mr. Pholps to ascertain what he was going to do about these unhanged murderers and other crimi- nals, who crowd the Tombs and walk the streets and appear at Academy balls and promenade Broadway in flashy Melton overcoats and smoke caus and live generally a lile of careicss ease and elegance. Seem DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S HANDS PULL. ‘The District Attorney said he had his hands full, and expected to have plenty of work to keep him busy for some time to come. Pulling out of his pocket a sheet of foolscap to answer the question of how many persons were now in the Tombs charged with murder, he read over the list and declared the number was just fourteen. “Of these,” said he, “three are pending review in the higher courts. Foster’s will come before the Court of Appeals next Monday. In the cases of Sharkey, Scannell and King true bills have been found by the Grand Jury. Sharkey’s will be tried in the Court of General Sessions, King’s and Scan- nell’s in Oyer and ‘Terminer, just a8 soon a8 the ‘Tweed trial is over. In the matter of Blakely, who killed the woman in Greene street, the papers have only just come from the Tombs. ‘They now ae the Grand Jury, anda true bill being foun case, a8 far a3 this oftice {s concerned, will ‘Be urged forward without delay. tigre paae | a Hickey will have each a new trial—the first in the Supreme Court, the other in the Mart of gi Sessions. In regard to Simmons, the inquest has yet to be held, MURDERERS ON BAIL. Rerorter—A statement was made some time ago that the pigeon-holes of this office were filled with indictments for murder against men whe were abroad in the streets on bail, District AtroRNEY—That is impossible; murder is an unbailable offence, and Lam unaware of any such cases as those of men being out on bail who had been regularly indicted for murder. THE CRIMINALS OF THE PAST. REPORTER—Of course you Know nothing of what has become of the murderers, none of whom but Keal and Reynolds were Fo as that were in tho Tombs about three years ago? DistRICT ATTORNEY—That was before my time, Perhaps some of them were not guilty of murder that merited the penalty of hanging, and, conse- ently, Were otherwise disposed of. However, the hist I have here of those who are now in the ‘Tombs that it is my duty to look after will be tried in due time, without any unnecessary delay. HANGING IN OLD BAILEY STYLE. RerorreR—What do you think of the HERALD’s suggestion to have them allexecuted in a batch, Old bailey Style, on one day? DIsTRICT ATTORNEY (aughing) —That might have & wholesome effect, but it is outside the range of probability. 1t would be quite retreshing to get rid of a lot of actual murderers all at once in this way, but, however sure justice may be, you knew the law 1s very uacertain. DO HIS FULL DUTY. REPORTER—I Pepeee We Inay expect an active crusade against the criminal classes on your part. DisrricT ATTORNEY—Yes, | shall do my tull duty, and it won't be my lault if justice halts and crimi- nalsescape. There are cousiderations, however, to be observed and not overlooked while seeing that the law is enforced and respected. Where guilt is demonstrated it is to be hoped punishment will follow, but to arrive at this result no undue haste must be exercised. Everything will be done consistent with a just rezard te the rights of all classes. Patient care wili be taken to see that the interests of the cemmunity are protectea and that all reasonable scope is given to tuose cused of violating the law to explain or vindl cate themselves, Without instituting a reign of terror we can reach the end which the order-lov- ing element of the community desire. I have yet to prcercete the extent of the work I shall have to rform, 1am here but a few weeks, and the time is short to Ro thoroughly through ‘the business of the office. We are progressing Jast and things will soon be in good shape. An office of tnis kind is kept constantly busy and requires constant atten- tion. Of one thing yOu may be certain—there will be no lack of endeavor to fulfll its duties tothe letter, OUSTOM HOUSE AFFAIRS. Civil Service Examination for Promo=- tion—Highly Important Treasury Reg- ulation. Another competitive examination of candidates for promotion occurred yesterday at the Custom House before the Coilectors’ Commissioners, of which Deputy Collector Thomas L. James is chatr- man, there being five existing vacancies, which Gen- eral Arthur called upon the Board to fill, The usual questions were put to the aspirants, in writing as well as verbally, that reqnired answering, and on the accuracy of the reply depended the promotion or rejection of the competitor. On the completion of the examination the examiners submitted the fole names to the Collector, from which the vacant ety il be filled :— oF thes clerkship were recommended :— ir. A tog relative standard 90 per cent; Mr, E. 0. Mann, relative stanlard 88,66 per cent, and Mr. FE. W. Perry, relative standard 86.67 per cent. For the #1,8 ‘kship the Board made the fol- lowing nominat: Mr. William Allison, rela- tive standard 77. i eee vent; Mr, Washington Dill, relative standard 74.37 per cent, and Mr. William B, Avery, relative atendsed 70 per cent. To fill the ist bi clerkship the annexed names stood hizhest r. Wedworth Wadsworth, 88.44 er cent; S.C. Weeks, 71.25 per cent, and Joseph E Seymour, 61.25 per Leal GOODS POR IMMEDIATE TRANSPORTATION. The annexed highiy important order from the Secretary of the Treasury on the subject of re diate transvortation, without Chega do received yesterday by the Collecter, It will be noticed that the new regulations go into ‘eect on the 20th inst. The effect of this order will be to liquidate tue invoices together, instead of separate, as has been the a heretofore, and thereby save a great cieai of labor tu the liquidating bu- reau. The following is a copy of Secretary well’s letter :— > Wasminctox, D. Jan. 12, 153. ‘on and'after —' i tl on te A 8 by A Lie Ak Tranarerven under tl Fig tr] July rior the Ly su mene panes i in e thereok art ur that Seine its whe ther for warehousing or Heatination enti yervor, % fet ae ire a ~ ng. oF under. immer spor- ea ened will the consignee be al lowed to ge R- and the remainder for im- mediate magne. or entering & part for warehous- ing tore. ot Teyulations of October 1, 1879, will be con- mn stion fea ntry pr romps onthe “arrival of hich Good fhould be bro brought to e aitention ao coungnens, 80 t torwartied, to se pe ort of Sof Set Cae within the lifetime am, ve o BORG Uta, Secretary. on the be, renee: MO entering @ partof the or ware ‘of consumption and allowing the remainder to go in to genet a ended according! will nda that the tmportance ot red certificate of delivery may isaucd and 0, A. Agtuun, collector of Customs, New York city.