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4 Tennessee's Stumping Trio Sketched and Interviewed. JOHNSON--MAYNARD--CHEATHAM eo The Great Commoner and the Narragansett in Antithesis--- A Comparison. ‘Andy’s'Terrible Wrestle with a Twenty- one-Year-Old Chicken. A Termagant Tirade Against Grant. What He Thinks of His Opponents, the Issues and His Prospects. Maynard’s Metaphysics and Ethnology. A Radical Prophet of Negro Extinction. Chickamauga Cheatham on His Chances. A Congressional Sandwich, with the Meat on the Outside. JOHNSON, THE PERSONAL CANDIDATE, pe aeeernteees MORRISTOWN, Tenn., Sept. 27, 1872, Not “over the walnuts and the wine,” for in such luxuries Mr, Johnson never indulges, and in this particular latitude hotels frown upon the ener- vating practice of supplementing dinner with eaggert, but over a tough old chicken, that must have dodged a hundred thieving durkies for @ full generation, we discussed the political situation, The proprictor of the hotel gave us the head of the table, Andy at one side, holding on to a chicken Swing with the same tenacity he heid on to that fugitive parchment, the constitution, and your cor- ‘respondent at the other, wondering If it was worth Andy's while to make such trial of his teeth and Hligestion at every wayside inn for the sake of being elected Congressman at Large. The more I looked at Andy—and I had to look at him ever my chicken bone, while I “wrastled’: ‘with it for ten minutes at a stretch—the more he Won upon my best regards, not because of the Stubborn energy with which he worked. his way through the dinner, regardless of such terrible Obstacles as fossilized chicken ment and ancient pig liver disguised as tendcrioin steak—but for the thorough democracy aud the honest frankness of his “style.” HAPPY ANDY. “You look better than when you were in the White House,” I remarked, “and 1 presume you feel much happier ? “Happier!” he exclaimed, “You cannot conceive It. Wappier a thousand times. I wouldn't ex- change my freedom now to be ten times President. Inever knew what freedom was until now.” Mr. Johnson spoke rapidly and energetically and evidently meant what he said. His face has filled Out since his White House days, aud indicates full health and careful living. If ex-Sheritt James O’Brien were about twenty years older his resem- blance to the Andy Johnson of the present day and hour would be very close. Both men have the bame fulness of feature and the same small gray, slightly leering, partiy sinister and inexpressive Byes, in which you are sometimes puzzled to tell Whether the light of honest intelligence or that of the instinct of cunning resides. 1 should have hest- tated to make @ comparison between two such men but for the near resemblance in the size and color of their optics, In repose the windows of Andy Johnson’s soul seem framed in the same de- Sign and translucency as Misther O'Brien's, but there the resemblance begins and ends. Whén the old dismounted veteran of Tennessee GETS ASTRIDE OF THE CONSTITUTION and rides it as of yore those eyes of his send forth a fire like the concentrated luminosity of all Golconda’s diamonds and our City Hall calcium lights on a Fourth of July nig!t brought to a focus the size of two diminutive whortieberries, John- Son cannot help having a few of the traits of the demagogue, but 1 doubt if there be on the political boards to-day a man of greater moral courage and Breater force of character, If I designed taking my hero (Andy) for what he never Is; if I should like to conclude that he is the greatest success as gf stump speaker, and the honestest sample of a Politician in all this broad Republic, I would stay away from these triangular discussions and cherish the fond delusion ali alone. Isat lately under the waving shadow of his stalwart rigit arm and heard bim harangue an audience so duil and undemon- ative that I doubtiithey knew whether they were at camp meeting or a political discussion, Tadtd not expect any great variety in the matter or Manner of tie speakers, but I was a little aston- ished to hear such literal exactness between the speech of yesterday and the one of to-day, Leaning back and listening to our former Chief Excel- Jency—listening to the verbatim et literatim ap- peais, familiar in our mouths as household words, appeals to the fag, the constitution and the coun- try—I felt irresistibly reminded of the cockney showman, “Step up, jadies and gentiemen, and wit- ness the greatest moral exhibition of the age. ‘This yere animal is the royal hippopotamus, which, ‘When Closely persood, turns upon his haxis and Wanishes up his wertical periphery, Step up!” That showman Was a fraud, but this speech grew into a habit of his life, and he dreamed not what a beggarly impostor he was making of himself. Just 80 With my Iriend Andy. He means all right, but it never occurs to him that too much “constitution,” like too much pium pudding, is apt to surfeit aad ist. However, where & mau has a different audience daily this is not so much noticed. May- ward and Cheatham have SPOKEN THE SAME SPEECHES ALL ALONG through East Tennessee, and why not Johnson? But now we are to have achange. We are pene- trating revel territory, where the man of the peo- ple wilt be General Frank Cheatham, where John- 00 will have to talk less about planting himself against the heresy of secession, and Maynard will ve to sing small about negro rights and rebel mis- loings. But to my subject, which is an interview with Andy, while over that aforesaid antique towl of the barnyard species. I might premise that to #tranger's Mr. Johnson is very deterential—deferen- tial by reason of his early training as a tailor. He bows and smiles with the same lofty Fal la of your high mightiness and the same lowly con- sideration of his own utter unworthiness as might become the sartorial artist to the Prince of Wales. CHICKAMAUGA CHEATHAM. “What strength, Mr. Johnson,” 1 asked ‘do you Aonsider General Cheatham has’’* “Cheatham, sir,” he replied, “has no strength. It all fictitious, He wasarebel General, and his name ular with some of those who fought under him, ut not with all of them. Lots of enthusiastic bels in Nashville declared their preference for Some of those thoughtiess young fellows that bay tbe rebellion shout, ‘Cheatiam!’ ‘Hurrah rg Kamauga!’ and all that; but walt till it mes to voting and even these will think twice fore sending a rebel General to Congress, What Cheatham do there? He'd be a mere stick, ith one vote and no more capacity to influence nother vote than to discover the philosopher's tone, . I presume to know Congress, parliamentary w, the constitution and the statute laws, tham knows none of these, and the ople must know he knows noue of | m, Now, Where is the use of such @ man in Congress? What voice can he have pn the great questions of the day’ What votes he ipfuence? What national measure can he ? Whatrecord can he bring ’ And, now, query Comes UD. Dave we not had enough of NEW YORK HERALD, FR " - rat military men ? Is the conatitution to be expounded E T. A and the laws explained by fellows who have WORN SWORDS AND tadaabrory! ALL THRIB LIVES? We must come time of the Fathers, They subordinated the civil to the military, They knew, ag afi thinking men must know, that a gov- ernment such as ours res study to under- stand and ineatham don’t under- stand the constitution nor the laws of his country, for if he did he would nover have taken the side of secession, but have f it out the battle of the “elNow who do you expect to support you uw wi you expect to uj yi “Well, the Spoon ‘Union men will support me, They felt and it as did in '6l—they wanted the thing settled within the lines of the Union, and they know how I stood by my post and fought against secession when Davis and the rest packed up their papers and left.” “But are these men of any numerical account?’ “Yes, They are not here nor there in a majority, but they are scattered all through the State in almost every county. ANDY'S REOONSTRUCTED SUPPORTERS. “Who else have you t”’ “Plenty of the old rebels—men who sympathized with the secession movement, more or less, but who never went in the army. They don’t want Cheatham. They have had enough of such men. They are reconstructed, and they see secession was a mistake. Now here is Cheatham—a fighting rep- resentative of secession. It wilido the State no good to send such aman to Congress. The rebels of sense won't vote for him, I'll get their votes." “Tam told a good many rebels in Nashville are bitterly opposed to you, and in favor of Cheat- ham,’? “Or course they are. There Is a of these fel- lows in that city, such as Bates, Dick Cheatham, naries and the rest. They are a mutual admira- tion society of rebel officers, and they can talk about Chickamauga and the like, about the battles they were in and all that. Cheatham is the man for them, and the man for such characters as Har- ris, Who ran away with tae school fund of the State from Nashville, The people can't be humbugged by this set. They know me of old, and when I get to Nashville they'll hear from me,"" “I see Maynard delights a good dealin reading your speech at Nashville in '64 about making trea- son ‘odlous and punishing traitors." MAYNARD'S GAME OF DIVISION. “Yes. Maynard wants to prejudice the rebel element against me and drive them over to Cheat- ham. Now, if Cheatham had any brains he would have taken up this point first and read that speech of mine every time he stands up, but you see the man knows nothing. Maynard’s game is to divide the vote equally, but it’s of no use. The demo- cratic vote of Tennessee is 120,000; equally divided 1t would give Cheatham and myself 60,000 each. The radical vote is only 52,000, so that you see’ Maynard in Fike case cannot come in between us." “Well, can’t he see that?” “Of course he can. He must know he can’t be elected, but he can make capital for the adminis- tration and get his'reward in an appointment.” “How will it be with him, though, if Greeley gets elected? “Oh! he can have a judgeship and Grecley can’t turn him out of that.’ “Do you expect to get any of the colored vote ?" ANDY SURRENDERS APRICA. “No, not fifty. The colored vote will fo toa man for Maynard—go for the radical candiaate, who- ever he is,” “Do you suppose the Surratt affair will hurt you much ¢? “Not at all. It's ail clap-trap—all talk and no influence. Not ten men in the State attach any real importance to the story.” “Lheard you say at Bristol that General Grant used his influence against you in the Impeachment trial, How was that ?”” “That was exactly 80, Grant at every opportu- nity used his influence for the success of impeach- ment, He tried totamper with Henderson up to the last moment. I was not without knowing what the little-minded intriguer was doing. If you want other authority go back to the Tribune, which came out one day and said it had the most positive and reliable assurance from Washington that GRANT FAVORED MY REMOVAL. Think of that. Think of its being said that this lot- tery General, this small scheming accident of civil war that the blind folly of fortune lifted from his natural station of littleness and obscurity, as a whirlwind sometimes lifts a rotten and worthless log above its place in the mud, should dictate to the nation what to do with its mghtful Chief Magistrate, Yes; Grant, the petty-brained imposture, worked hard as he could to bring about my removal. He knew what [ thought, of him, of his shiftings and dodgings in the Stanton affair, of his es and his littleness, and he never could forgive me—for it is not in the man’s natnre to forgive.” “What do you think the chauces are of “his re- election 9” “It will show a strange want of intelligence on the part of the people if they elect him, They are offered the Spporganity of electing a man who is as far superior to him as the heavens are above the earth. Mr. Greeley may have been opposed to me in the past, but I say, as I have been saying all along in this canvass, let the past be forgotten, LET US HAVE RECONCILIATION and amnesty, and let us go forward to build up our Union on a fraternal aud imperishable basis.” Mr. Johnson, as you will observe by the foregoin; conversation, is a8 vigorous of speech as ever; and, indeed, you have only to look at him and hear him in the present campaign to marvel at bis unflagging energy and spirit. MAYNARD, THE RADICAL CANDIDATE, ee ee KNOXVILLE, Tenn., Sept. 29, 1872. Horace Maynard is a very different man from An- drew Johnson—as different, in common parlance, as chalk is from cheese. Physically, morally and mentally they differ. The one is tall, lithe and sinewy asa poplar; the other ample, robust and fair-pro- portioned as a chestnut tree. The former is a casuist, a hair-splitter, a man of tricks and devices; the latter a broad, unconscious demagogue, hitting right and left with a sledge-hammer, and inflicting more damage sometimes on himself and his friends than he does upon his enemies. MAYNARD IS A BELLES LETTRESMAN. A student of books, something in metaphysics as taught by the Baconian philosophers and not by Herbert Spencer; squinting at the Spiritualism of Andrew Jackson Davis; shallow in chronological science, as witness his ‘ Euthanasia” prophecies; but, on the whole, one who in company with a very few gave to the last Congress a trifle of character for literary culture. Johnson read the constitution, Rollins’ Ancient History—Tom Paine, perhaps, Prescott and Davis most likely, and the files of the New York HERALD most certainly. He might have found occasional relaxation in Sut Lovinggood, Cooper’s “Spy,” the ‘Travels of Captain Cook,” Artemus Ward, and the ‘Adventures of Roderick Random; but it is doubtful if he ever sought acquaintance with the “Confessions of Kous- seau,” the sayings of Rouchefoucald, the playful philosophy-of Addison or the subtle disquisitions of De Quincy. With this whole classical caboodle Maynard is familiar. Maynard would have pleaded with all the sophistry of a sinuous intellect on the side of King Charles and in defence of the ship money imposition. Johnson would have taken the piace of Pym or Hampden, denounced the act and hurled deflance at the monarch. The one in any other government would ever be on the side of power, the upholder of tradition and prerogative; the other would always be found (in hot water) on the side of the masses. Maynard in Johnson's place as President would have acquiesced in every measure of reconstruction proposed ny Congress. Johnson, if believing he was absolutely right, would have pulled the Rocky Mountains down before yielding his opinions. So much for Maynard and Johnson. Having written thus far it is almost timeI gave you my “interview” with Maynard. I cannot call the start asatisiactory one, aud indeed I doubt very much if under any circumstances opening an interview with the radical candidate could be made so. For instance, I inquired in gn offhand way as we were waiting at a railroad station for the train. “What are your expectatior Mr. Maynard, abont the result of this campaign MAYNARD'S MEASURE OF CAUTIOUS SILENCE. “Well,” replied the gentleman, 10 @ measured cadence and with a look as knowing as the wag of a mule’s ear, ‘when I was practising law in Knox- ville many years ago i made it an invariable pri tice to te; my clients never to inform anybody of their business, as it could do them no good and mi 7 operate to their injury. That'sa way I adopt myself.” Despite this, however, Mr. Maynard was not whoily averse to talking, provided the subject of conversation was some distance removed from the prorpects of the campaign. ON NEGRO SUFFRAGE, “I see, according to Johnson, that you were op- <l to negro suffrage in ‘64 1" ‘es, | thought it was premature.” “You delivered @ speech after that dubbed “Eu- thanasia.’ What was the object of it #” “Well, I believed the negroes would graduall; disappear—die out—on this Continent, and . wanted to give them, as the word expresses it, ‘an easy death.’ My prediction was that the leper of tine would see them vanish from the South by ex- tinction, I was opposed to violence being used, and [ begged Jor them this easy death of gradual decay.” owe, don’t you think, now, Mr. Maynard they are a pretty lively race + Around here they seem to be as thick as bees, and don't trouble themselves much about your ‘Euthanasia,’ ’ “it ig true there is no apparant,yold in their ranks, but @ young man like you may live to see their present number greatly diminished. It 1s in- evitable, The white and negro races cannot live in contact in a state of freedom and high civiliza- tion without the inferior race peing ultimately crowded out of existence. In @ state of eesti it was possible for the negroes to thrive and multiply. TUE CORRODING INFLUENCES OF WHITE CIVILIZA- TION did not operate on them. Now that they are free personatly and politically they are at liberty to in- dulge in all the vices of white civilization and give scope to thelr natural passions, All history favors the view I take, and time alone will ve! As itis Loan see the colored people numerous around here. ‘They are moving away, many going North to a climate that is fatal to them. Freedom and civilization must finally determine the problem."" ivi’. PENNSYLVANIA. “ow, Mr. Maynard, if the negro is about vo ae | What Buckalew Says About the Politics off like this, and that the inevit: off ts conclusive evidence of his inferiority, why does your radical party hand over the State of South Carolina to be governed by him *” “We cannot help that. He 1s in the majority and his natural allies are the republicans. He votes the republican ticket because the republican party emancipated him. You woulddothe same. The ne is not ungrateful. He knows his friends he sticks to them." “What ia the present condition of this State of Tennessee as far as parties are concerned ?”” “It is very anomalous, but you are a correspond- ent and you can find out from a hundred people beside me, THEN AND NOW, “Don’t you think the meeling we had to-day at the Court Honse was very quiet considering the elements brought together ?"" “Oh, yes. There was a time, though not many ears since, when the same sort of crowd would ave whipped out their knives and revolvers at & moment's notice and set to." “There was some fun in being around here then, don’t you think “Yes; it might have been fun to you folks from New York, who secm to enjoy a monopoly of such excitement since we lost it down here, It was no fun to me.’ dust here the train came up and my tall ana dainty-stepping friend dived into the nearest car, while I went to hunt up the spoiled darling of Ten- nessee, the genial and ever-so-nice-a-fellow Major General Frank Cheatham, the hero of Chickamauga. T should have related that Maynard said Greeley had as much chance of being elected as of being struck by lightning. ME Ma SDMSS eSteSa KNOXVILLE, Tenn., Sept. 29, 1872. T cannot just now lay my hand on the military record of General Frank Cheatham, but colonels and generals make such a plentiful and perennial crop down here that to single out one man for bio- graphical notice where a whole army might ask pro rata for a similar recognition would be running too great a peril. Enough to know that old Cheatham fought in the Mexican war with that galaxy of splendid soldiers that culminated in Robort E. Lee, He was all through the late war, distinguishing himself particularly at Chickamauga, and if you can call to mind the most genial, sim- ple-hearted, honest-looking, kindly-tempered officer that ever held command in our Army of the Potomac you are not far from having his rebel counterpart in Frank Cheatham. ‘The very reverse of the soldier in all but his face and mustache, speaking the full patois of the South, saying ‘fo’ for four, and “befo’ " for before, *‘clar”’ and “thar and “nar; as innocent as a child about the devious ways and double-dealing dodges of the world, spending one-half his ive in the army and the other on a farm, FRANK CHEATHAM IS AN ANOMALY to me as an aspirant for political honors. I can fancy him thrown into the vortex of New York politics and running against two such merciless antagonists as Cox and Tremain. I can fancy him perched on the stage of Tammany Hall, with profane roughs of Tweed's district watting for his speech, And yet an idea strikes me that the overflowing humanity of his blud, handsome, military face would win him a hearing and a three times three even from the black- guards of the Sixth ward. I cannot give you much of a talk with Cneatham—not but that he talks, but it is all in a circle, and after the firat round nothing new is left. The firat speech he ever made in his life was on this campaign, and lasted exactly fifteen minutes, so you see the other two buffers, who have a couple of hours to speak, have him at a big advantage. The meat is on the outside of this sandwich, and poor Cheatham is the thin cut of bread in the middle. Talking to him the other day about the earthen of giving his views to the wont cee fully than his brief speeches represent, e replies “AI Lean say 1s, Lam the regtlar nominee of the Convention—the representative standard bearer of the democratic party ot the State. If the people won't elect me, no harm done, Johnson has no right to come into this fight. He held office for Westerns years, and I never held any in my le. I FEEL SURE OF BEING ELECTED, because I am known to every man in the State and my record is without a blot. No man can point to a single thing In Frank Cheatham'g record of which he need feel ashamed, IT shall go Con- ress to represent the people of my State without fear gr favor—no axes to grind nor no buncombe speeches to deliver. You see just what I am, plaiu spoken with teers 5 to con- ceal. My character is known. fate Is in the hands of my friends, If Johnson keeps on he will lose prey oar The people of the State will be disgusted with him; but as for me, I feel sure of being elected.” As the prospect of this canvass comes nearer and opens tome like a morning glory I begin to see that Johnson must win. Frank Cheatham had no equalin popularity in the rebel Southwestern army CxoeRs Paes, that tall, audacious rebel a Irishman, ourne, who, wading to his waist in mud, led the last charge of Hood's army at Nashville. Cheatham will have the vote of the old secessionists, the bitter ones who ne’er forgive nor forget. John- son will get a host of Confederate soldiors who are sick of the past redivivus, and as I travel fur- ther west I have little doubt of finding the conser- vative or the former Union element also in his favor. Maynard, of course, has no chance, how- ever much they may talk him he in East Tennessee, The truth is there is as_ much difficulty in discover- ing the Cte be of the candidates in any one of the three divisions of the State as in finding whether the State is a whole or aconfederacy of three States distinct in political feeling, manners, customs aud appearance, JUDGE BEDFORD ENDORSED BY THE TWENTY-SEOOND WARD, A large and enthusiastic meeting of some of tho most influential citizens of the Twenty-second ward was held on Wednesday evening, corner Seventy- third street and Eighth avenue, and after a free discussion of political affairs the following pre- amble and resolution were offered and unani- mously and enthusiastically adopted :— ‘Whereas, believing that a republican forin of govern: ment is the best that has ever been devised to seoure to man his sacred rights of life, libery, the security of his roperty and the free exercise of consctence, and believ- ing that the strongest support and protection for such a government is In a pure and ivarless judiciary; and whereas we have watched with the — ‘most profound _ interest upright —and_ independ- ent course ot the Hon. Gunning 8, Bedford, the City Judge of this city, In his impartial administra: tion of the laws and the prompt vindication of justice, which have been guaranteed to us for the security of our persons and our property, and has checked eriine in our midst ; now we, the active citizens of the Twenty-second Ward, itrespeciive of party, who have not been, unmind- ful of the vital political events of the past, and Rayo taken an earnest part in the performance of our duties In the exercise of our elective franchise in sustaininy best candidates offered for our suffrage, have resolv organize ourselves Into an association ‘for the purpose of supporting Judge Bedford ay a truc and earnest champion of the people's rights; and its, therefore, hereby Resolved, That this’ association shall be known ag the Gunning 8. Bedford Association of the Twenty-second ward, The following officers were elected:—John 8. Clancy, President ; George Noland, First Vice sl- dent; Edward Darke, Second Vice President}; Gil- bert Sarles, Secretary; Otto Filgentine, Corres- ponding Secretary; Treasurer, M. Hoelzie, After an addrees being made by the President a commit- tee of three was appointed to present the forego- ing resolutions to the Hon. Gunning 8. Bedford. The mecting then adjourned till Wednesday, Octo- ber 9, 1872, JEFFERSONIAN LEAGUE, About three weeks agoa number of young men from the different Assembly districts of the city met together and formed the nucleus of an organi- zation which is intended to spread through all the different wards, The object of the association is to form clubs in all the Assembly districts, which clubs will send delegates to the Central League, They will form no affiliation with any particular party, but will, as their constitution declares, sup- port good men only. The candidates for Assembly will come under their particular supervision. A meeting was held last evening at Mazonic Hall, in Thirteenth street, and quite a large number of intelligent-looking, — respectable young men, at: tended it. Ata previous meeting it was resolved that the League should support Greeley and Brown on the Presidential ticket and Kernan and Depew on the Gubernatorial; but as yet no candidates for Mehdi ateg have been spoken of as entitled to support, ast nignt, shortly after organization, the meet- ing proceeded to the election of permanent officers. The following are the names of the gentlemen chosen :—President, Richard J. morrison; Vice Presidents, John Murphy, John D. Cleary; Treas- urer, John M. Grady; Secretaries, Michael J. Drum- mond, Michaet H. Sigerson, John J. Voster, Reports were then received on tie organization of new clubs. In the Fleventh ward a club of some 200 members will be organized next Saturday night by Messrs. John ae, and P. Kelly, In the Eighteenth ward a club will be formed on Monday night of 100 members, by Messrs, Drum- mond, Keenan and Barnard. In the Twentieth ward actub of from fifty to seventy-five members will be organized on Tuesday night by Messrs. Cleary, Morrison and Keogh. After some congratulatory remarks from the President the meeting adjourned to Thursday, the loth jnst. of the Quaker State. AMEND THE CONSTITUTION! The Real Issues of the Present Fight. The Coalition Candidate for Governor He ts Disgusted at the Corruption and Venality of Pennsylvania Politiciaus— Bargaining and Gambling with the Suffrages of the People—Tho Only Remedy: Amend the Constitution and Introduce Cumulativo Voting, Avoid- ing Abuse and Working for Recon- ciliation and Peace. LANSDALE, Pa., Sept. 26, 1872. Ex-Senator Charles RB, Buckalew has every reason to be satisfied with his reception in Doyles- town. Popular as he is represented to be in the State, he has nowhere, outside of his own county of Columbia, been so warmly received during the campaign ag in this latter place. His record in the United States Senate and elsewhere may be of the best and purest, but unfortunately the Globe 1s not taken as a text book by the voting population of this or any other State; and hence the necessity of the appearance in public of the men who, although they may have achleved the greatest feats in statesmanship, desire further favors at the hands of the people. Buckalew has had, therefore, to undergo this ordeal tn propria persona, and it is while going from couaty to county in this way he is enabled to form at least @ superficial idea of his popularity and consequent voting strength, He has made thirty speeches in a less number of days, each time addressing a different audience, and in many instances employing language the reverse of flat- tering to a majority of his hearers, Pennsylvania political gatherings usually express before the plat- form their acquiescence or disapprobation of a speaker or his subject, and, in some cases, the dis- approbation is expressed in a most unpleasant manner. It is but seklom a man applauds at ; the wrong time. In accordance with this stand- ard, then, Buckalew’s strength can be estimated. And he has not addressed audiences composed en- tirely of democrats and liberal republicans, but he has been compelled to enter republican strong- holds, offend republican ears and receive republican lances. THE COALITION GUBERNATORIAL NOMINEE, for such in reality he ts, is not what Bacon would calla man of large parts. He is about five feet nine or ten inches in height, of a slight build, has ‘a face and head highly suggestive of the late Abra- ham Lincoln, asa rule wearing his hair as though he were in the habit of constantly pushing his fin- gers through it straight above his forehead. His method of speaking is deliberate and impressive, giving one the idea that he seldom allowed ah ex- pression to escape his Ips without having previ- ously “slept over it.” Seating myself by his side in the cars while en route to this place this morning, I entered into conversation with him touching the present condition of affairs in this State, &c. Among other things he said politics in the State of Pennsylvania had for several years past been nothing more than gambling. It aman could collect a few iriends together and desired them to put him in nomination for some civil office, the first thing to be done was to ascertain how much he would be worth to the nominating party, calculations always being carefully made, also, how much the other side might pay for securing his overthrow and got into power he wanted tobe paid by sition ny Taig If a mal fees an th ke what should be a salaried oed 8 angle tis Weaby oF haat at fortune @ very short space of time. ‘here are offices in Philadelphia supporting their officers by fees which of themselves would corrupt any system of etentlee and tt is for their pres- ervation that the republican party is fighting. It was not a matter of surprise to him that their best educated, most Intelligent citizens refused to take any part in the government. To be connected with political pepeniensious a man risked that which himself and family most highly cherishea— his reputation, He was liable at any moment to be denounced as an abettor of BLACKMAILERS AND ROBBERS, the companion of blacklegs whose whole lives were devoted to lying and stealing. From one end of the Commonwealth to the other the same objections are raised by respectable citizens against the ruinous peculations from the public purse. As an instance of the villany resorted to to secure office he mentioned the modus operandi at elections in his own t@vn in Columbia, There were there 610 voters, about 3810 democrats and 300 repub- Ucans. In order to have a majority either arty had to fight for the odd ten votes, f the democrats desired to secure their right of representation in the Town Council they had to look around and count their strength before the day ofelection, and place their wires so as to be worked in securing the available mipsien Perhaps they wanted some eT of public matters, or perhaps they wanted a new street opened or improvements necessary to the health and well being of the peopie made, Their oppo- nents would get up a ‘cry,’ and the questions were made a test. Ifthe latter could by any means buy up or corrupt the ten men they could afford to make bets and gamble with the suttrages of the people, def all proposed improve- ments and deprive more than one-half the citizens of ther right representation. In order to defeat the republicans the democrats were compelled to resort to all kinds of manipu- lation to secure thelr rights. Of the 310 democratic voters some might always be depended on to vote for measures proposed by their opponents, not be- cause they desired to co-operate with others in re- sisting their own party from motives of honesty and conscientiousness, but because some “busi- ness” argument had been used for which he was sorry to say too many had a strange kind of reve- rence. It was a matter of bargain and sale all the time. Supposing ten votes were bought, or se- cured, to use a less offensive term, the 300 honest men were deprived of their rights, De could not defend A SYSTEM OF CORRUPTION like this, and honest men everywhere demanded its overthrow. It was within the power of the people to put an end toa system that was ruining the credit and checking the prosperity of the Com- monwealth. As New York had decreed, and would ultimately have fully to carry out, reform must raise her standard in Pennsylvania, beginning in Philadelptia, and gradually bringing within her control the government of the interior. Our mu- nicipal affairs in Philadelphia are a standing dis- to us; dishonorable men — become from the fees and _ exiortions of office, and by their debauched example scatter broadcast the seeds of venality. The legitimate business machinery of the city has been used for maintaining corruption in the seat of government, instead of being devoted to insure justice, uphold- ing the dignity of the law, the preservation of order and security to person and property. AMEND THE CONSTITUTION, In case of his election Lasked how he proposed to change all this. He replied they would fall back upon the Consti- tutional Convention, This body would immediately proceed to propose some changes in the constitu- tion, The municipal laws in Piiladelpnia would re- ceive special attention, and the infamous Registry law now in force would have togive place to some- thing more worthy of one of the greatest cities tn the Union. The leading interests demand, he re- Fgh that the system of paying pubile officers by ives instead of giving them a salary to be regulated by the Legislature, be done away with, Politicians ou the other side, who pretend to possess such an immense amount of patriotism and such strong de- ch to serve the people, caunot surely object to is. “What ia their defence of the system ?” I asked. He could see no defence im a case already pro- nounced by the people to be fraudulent and detri- mental to their best interests. Theirs was not a policy of hatred, he said, but one of recouctliation and peace. It was not his desire, or the desire of the party he repenen ee to be constantly abusive, to sit down and preach the doctrines of everlasting hate; to answer calumny by calumny, charges by counter charges, and enter into polemical discus- sions with men who have shown themselves un- worthy of the confidence repesed in them by the people. To do this would be ghting the shadows, leaving still the substance in the hagds of those whose grip could only be loosened by the people themselves. He had already answered THE CHARGES OF DISLOYALTY and over-honesty while in the United States Sen- ate, and inasmuch as his reply had not been challenged he knew the list had been exhausted, The people had been asked to judge him on bis record, and if he took the signs exhibited in the various parts of the State to mean anything, he trad no fear of the verdict in October, “To attempt by inflammatory speeches and base fabricated as- sertions to excite the mind of the populace by stating that our designs upon the South were the restoration of slavery, to place our tect once more upon the necks of those millions of entranchised citizens to secure whose liberty the best blood of the country had been spilled, was a piece of the most wicked political Ope? ever known in any campaign.” “God forbid,” said he, “that the coun. try should ever be called upon to make such an- 4 other sagrifiga.”’ The issues setticd by the war pocepting @ man of opposite views. | IDAY, OCTOBER 4, 1872.—TRIPLE SHEET, an intelligent O10) ; in the 8 rye Who believed that they could be restored to the! Titismted tnt Ourtin’s power and popularit as represented, had been vehemently denied by nf former associa’ OURTIN'S STRENGTH. He was not surprised to learn that. But, if Cur- tin could be proved to exercise so little infuence in the State, he wondered why his former associates had been so terribly furried ‘since his declaration to support the reform movement, and why also they had used so many berg exhausting their programme of device, in the endeavor to secure his “one vote.” Curtin’s wer would soon be felt, and then rhaps they least have tne good sense i admit the anerror. He only knew that the public:tion of his letter had drawn hundreds of his old associates into the field, and he (Buckalew) knew their es- timate of the old war Governor. He could not speak of Lis merits so well as many who had closer relations with him, but he knew suflictent to con- vince him of Curtin’s thorongh independence, ¢all it what they may, and of the respect, nay—the love—many of the people felt for him, In reply toa qpesion he sald one great source of trouble was the condition of things in Philadel- phia, The fictitious names registered could be numbered by theusands, and should one-half of these be counted as votes there would be serious work next month, OUMULATIVE VorINa. He next referred to his system of cumulative voting. He said he proposed to endeavor to have the principles adopted by his own county acknowl- edged throughout the State. He maintained that if delegates to a county convention were in- structed in this ¢he chief incentives to fraud would disappear, For instance, if, instcad of nominating twenty-nine electors, four- teen were substituted, each man _ being empowered to cast two votes in convention, it would greatly simplify matters. Then, again, delegates 80 selected to attend county conventions could by this means cast the vote of their districts at once, instead of going over the entire list of nominations. He believed in the Pas le of minority roprenpatation, and would, if elected, so explain and simplify the system as to bring It within the ken of the humblest voter. The New York charter presented to the Legislature at Albany last Umit Rate Nha deh ni not thorou; e the subject, and he vas not sur ised when Cov. ernor Hoffman declared he could not sign itif peer He was rather glad than otherwise when t was rejected, because he knew it would lead to @ closer examination of the subject. Mr. Buckalew expressed a hope that the maloriy the coalition nominces would receive next mont would be such as to give a fair indication of the re- suit of the Presidential question, as all Pennsyl- vanians felt that this State was the usual battle ground, and especially so this year, when issues of the most vital interest had to be settled, when cor- ruption was charged against the leaders of the re- publican party in Washington—against the head of the nation as well as against his supporters at the head of the government in Natarrtnls and Philadelpnia, He retused to commit himself by giv- ing any figures, although he has made an estimate of the strength ol his friends in each county in the State. Just previous to arriving at this place he was sur- rounded by a number of gentlemen who had learned of his presence in the car, and, in conse- quence of the handshaking ordeal and the replies he had to give to his numer- ous quesHoners, I retired. I discovered his disinclination to dilate. upon Hartranft’s career, and he equally avoided the use of any abuse against General Grant or flattering eulogy of the Philosopher, though he dislikes the first and isa firm supporter of the latter. I observed that in his speeches yesterday he dwelt more upon the im- portance of seizing the present opportunities, with the hope of improvement in the future, rather than a condemnation of men opposed to him in the past, Cameron, whom he has always beaten hitherto, came in for a little homely denunciation, but the known hostility of the two men for a number of years lessened the effect considerably. MeClure’s Address—Great Frauds Antici- pated=One Hundred and Sixty-two Thousand Voters Registered in Phil- adelphia—The Number Exceeds the New York Registration—Fifitcen Thousand Republican Repeaters Ready for Their Work. TO THE PEOPLE OF PENNSYLVANIA:— The lines fn the great struggle for the regenera- tion of Pennsylvania from despotic and corrupt po- litical power are distinctly drawn, and the issue has ceased to be doubtful. Neither money nor patron- age nor fraud, nor all combined, can avert the de- cisive defeat that awalts the Cameron Ring State candidates on Tuesday next, The honest vote of the State will elect Charies R, ete ah Bhat ce TE we FD ee eae Tiickalew our next Governor by the largest majore ty e ver given any State candidate since 1860, For atime the friends of the Ring ticket hoped to rally tho ranks of a once honored party and thus save their favorites. But now they have surrendered every hope of succoss thatis not based upon un- mixed fraud, How far frand may be successful cannot now be determined. The registration in Philadelphia of over one hundred and sixty-two thousand voters— being Jarger than the registration of New York, with 250,000 more Inhabitants—is an open and de- flant confession of intended fraud, ‘Ths organized fraud has its outposts in Chester, Westchester, Reading, Lancaster, Harrisburg, Columbia, Cham- bersburg, Altoona, Pittsburg, Williamsport, Erie, ‘Titusville and other points where the pollution of the bailot box has been deliberately planned by the importation of illegal votes. Negroes from Virginia have been shipped in droves to Harrisburg, and then distributed over the State and located where ring republicans control the election boards, Many have already been detected and compelled te re- turn, but it is expected by the Ring managers that pee will vote not less than 4,000 of imported Vir- ginia freedmen. But in tho face of the possible fraud of 10,000 in favor of the Ring tichet in Philadeipnia, and of 5,000 more in other portions of the State, I feel full warranted in announcing to the people of Pennsyi- vania that the successful perpetration of double the frauds now possible would fail to elect Hart- ranft and his Ring associates. The prextlennions of public justice to the exac- tions of despotic political leaders has aroused the people, without distinction of party, as they never have been aroused before. The proffer of Execu- tive pardons through reckless Ring masters, on condition that helpless convicts shall falsely cer- tify to the reputation of Ring candidates; the prot- fer of future pardons made to convicts~ in this city and in at least one other sec- tion of the State within the last week, and the sealed statement of a late pardoned convict, who is now awaiting trial, held by the same speculators in immunity to crime—ail of which has been done to shield political friends or to intimidate political foes— present a measure of debauchery and desperation unexampled in the history of all past partisan con- ficts. To doubt that such efforts must be con. demned by the overwhelming vote of the people of our city and State is to abandon all hope Of gov ernment and law. People of Pennsylvania, your victory cannot now be wrested from you; but it should be a triumph of no coramon character, It should be and can be so overwhelming that Ring rule will at once dissolve and perish from our midst by the moral power of the verdict of the people. Forward! friends of honest government and re- form. The lines of the enemy are broken, and their conscripted reserves of crime have but deep- ened and widened their demoratization. Public in- tegrity in oMcials, honesty in the enactment of our laws, and fidelity In the administration of justice are the rich fruits to be gathered by the people on ‘Luesday next. A. K. MoCLURE, Chairman, POLITICAL HEADQUARTERS. A HERALD reporter visited all the haunts, known as “headquarters,” of the politicians of this city, yesterday afternoon, in search of news; but, be- yond the fact that in each place a half dozen men sat round a table doing nothing and another half dozen busily assisting them, nothing had tran- splred. No name worth recording was signed in any of “the visitors’ books;” the only “news” given was a “puff from one side or the other about the Georgia election, and the only impression that could be left on any intelligent visitor was the incontrovertible fact that institutions known as “political headquarters” are essentially a& laugh- able ‘mockery, a delusion and a snare.” BROOKLYN AND THE STATE TAX, The special committce of the Board of Super- visors of Kings county appointed to confer with the “Board of State Assessors and Equalization” in relation to an equitable taxable valuation of real estate in Kings county for 1871, report that they have sought to have the value of assessed reat estate reduced $50,000,000 from the values as re- ported by said County Assessors in 1870, The State Board granted a reduction of near twenty-five mil- lions of dollars, but this is not satisfactory to the taxpayers. The average taxation in twenty coun- ties of tie State, as compared with the real value, is less than twenty-four r cent, while Kings county is taxed fifty-ax per cent—ten per cent of the actual value of real estate, as compared with the taxable, The inequality of rates observed in levying tax upon this county for State purposes is specially obnoxious to tne people. An appeal is. made to the State Board not to urge the payment of more than a fair pro rata tax on real estate. At a meeting of influential taxpayers the Injust- ice of the assessment was denounced, and the sub- Joined resolutions expressive of the determination of the meeting were adopted :— Rosolved, That this meeting recommend to the Board of Supervisors to provide in the tax levy of this year tor such an amount of State tax that the couaty justly bound to pay on a just equalization of values in all counties of the State, excluding w! ety from such levy the quota of the count: based ‘upon the payment of the State debt desietency thls present 9c Resolved, That we recommend made to tie next Legislature to pasa an nc’ ‘Tiat plication be authorizing the Connty Treasurer to borrow such sum as may be ne- Cosanry to enable tie county to fulAl Ks obligations to the State, provided it shall bq found that the amount ralsed by the aunual tax is Insuffigiont for that purnase, indeed, there was not “THE STRAIGHT-O0TS.” —_—_— A Slim Attendance and a Trans- parent Failure. NO STATE TICKET NOMINATED, CHARLES 0’CONOR ENDORSED. An Abundance of Hot and Strong Resolutions. ALBANY, Oct. 8, 1872, The Straight-out Democratic State Conventions met atone P. M, to-day at Martin Hall. Among those present were R. B. Miller, brother-indaw ef Horatio Seymour; Hon. Levi S. Chatfield, 0. P: Sykes, John J. Allen, Chairman of State Committee; Jolin A. Goodiet, Mr, Keegan, of New York, and other prominent men, The Convention was called to order by John J Allen, Chairman of the State Committee, -whe spoke as follows :— He described the manner In which the State was organized. He commenced by giving: a Bitory the organization of the democratic party, which called for by the ofiicials of the government. bec corrupt. Then Thomas Jefferson nized a ete ‘those otticials from power. That party: bec until within a few years past the party of waepe y referred to the Baltimore Convention, said it was proposed to abandon the old and time-honored prin f the democratic party and own in C1 the party. But ciples, a ‘ho Rad stood ay aie were disregarded, the m CT fee the y'otlll maiatsined their tion, We wanter im to give ‘ae id van ico fe. cratic candidates, but the; would not do were obliged to #0 to Loui bt there ticket, and we point with plause,) At that Convention there was appoint Jommittee for this State, and there we ae our aut to act here and now. He claimed that this was a true and rightful democratic organization now ps State. We are sneered because eveny couse represented here. | Al why is It is our Peale ms it PJ on fault vas those are attempting to turn our party — over, the enemy. He said that these men Were Ung a 4 yw ewhat {her were doing, and when y dragged through the mire in erat they become fully besmeared with filth, they wal TI hor lason, thegugh dofist as well asin vlotorr went te Bot hrou iefcat as well as in vi went hold w conference with those who were about. to te nga. porting a man who first appeared as an anti- asa whig, and always the enemy of th enemy of the country, He it was who inspired J Brown in hls rald in Vicgisia and supported im was uot all Greoley had done. He had placed Grant the Presidential cbair,.a man totally unfit for the place. On motion Rutger B, Miller was appointed chalz- man, and was conducted by a committee to the Mr, MILLER, on taking the lows :— He thanked the Convention for the honor conferre@ upon him. If there were any Bourbons among the exclaimed in their extremity, “All is lost save honor!” He dented the charge which wis made that thelr - Mr. Miller concluded his brief address by, ng a the Convention for calling him to the chair. elected:—Horace Harrington, Levi S. Cha! John T. Van Allen, John eeeoce George M. Ve Burt, Jr.; Charles P. Sykes, George P. Wilcox. ‘The Convention then proceeded to elect an elec- at Large—Peter Gilsey, John A, Goodlett an@ George pra ue. District Klectors—First District, Alex, Delinas; Fourth, James H. Elmore; Benjamin F. Beckman; Sixth, Jenkins Van Schaick; rett; Ninti, Alex. Spaulding; Tenth, Jullus Wads- worth; Eleventh, Peter Cohn; — Twelftl Fourteenth, George M. Van_ Sel kK; _ Fifteenth, Hiram Perry; Seventeenth, Martin V. P. Turner Twentieth, Taylor More; Twenty-first, D. Bellin- er; Twenty-second, R. B. Miller; Twenty-third, . Ai(th, By W. Th t ee nea i. wenty-f{th, 2 We cpp} ‘enty-six! re! : Bitley} Twenty-seventh, 1. P. Leeg; Twenty-eighth, w. yg at Witty i Walcott: Tift, to come back to thelr old movri yore democracy: Compare him, he said, with Charles.O'Conor! But The speech was warmly applauded, chair. pe indi en fal “straight outs” be honed they descended trom those whe ization was revolutionary, It was The following Vice Presidents were them Schaiek, James H. K. Wilcox. Secretaries—Johm toral ticxet, with the following result:—Electora Thomas Shase; Second, Robert McUoy; Third, Seventh, Charles P, Sykes; Righth, William 0. Bar- James Lynch; Thirteenth, Theophilus cuveden? Eighteenth, John Gardner; Nineteenth, 8. J. Giutee Vitfiam Lewis; Twenty-fourth, Sheld Tirath “ekardsons “hirtyetirst, A, N, Barbe Thirty-second, James White. Richardson; Thirt; The following. Committee on Resolutions then appointed:—John A. Goodlett, Levi 8. Chat. field, John J. Van Allen, Horace Harrington, Charies P, Sykes, George M.’ Van Schaick and’ George Sprague, who subsequently reported the following resolutions :— Whereas those illustrious men who achieved our inde- pendence and who have written their names on fsioness immortality established our government for the be ot the many instead of the few; and whereas, by the | power of potitical patronage! and the corrupt use of money all this has been changed, and the government, as now ° administered, tends directly to the benefit of the few im- stead of the many ; therefore be it Resolved, That in order to maintain the government aa originally established by the fathers of fhe Republic and cemented by their blood we pledge our best ene: to leer e ‘the great work of reform inaugurated illustrious chief, Charles O’Conor, of New York, and associates. Resolved, That the betrayal of the democratic p: the Baltimore Convention, in the adoption of the p! of principles and the candidate of a faction of h pol ition party, is deserving of our abhorrence and exe- eration, Resolved, That the democratic party is a party of prin- ciple, and as a party o: nalaetion epunot Set eg maintenance of its pri noted a that the selection candiduies not representatives of its principles is be tolerated and absolves every democrat from eit Hleket ao selected his support or sympathy. Resolved, That a coalition parties. for the sake ottice and the patronage of the government is at the fice of principle, iniquitous in its conception, di able in its nature and must result in inevitable di filure and disgrace. Resolved, That in the early hitoty of our government,’ without the intervention of convention or i} tye most eminent and worthy men were selected for the est offices of the governinent, whose well-known les and consistency were sufficient guarantee f idelity, and that in presenting the pares of O'Conor for President and John Quincy Adams for President the Louisville Convention have not been. ated by any sectional consideration, but by the motive to present men of national re} beet, whose eee abilities and purity of character eminently fit them tor the highest offices of the government, and tor whom the democratie party can consistently cast their suffrages, The resolutions were unanimously adopted, Mr. VAN ALLEN moved that the Convention pro- ceed to nominate a State ticket. Mr. Onrver hoped that the motion would He om the table, as the New York delegation were in- structed not to vote for a State ticket. Mr. GoopLeTt favored the State ticket, and said it was necessary in order to keep up their organi- zation properly. Mr. CHATFIELD said he came to the Convention uninstructed by any constituency as to ea he should vote in regard to the nominating of a State ticket. He thought that a Congressman at Large ought to be nominated in any event, the office being national. He thought the mongrel snare of the coalition ticket ought to be repudiated and new nominations made. Under the circumstances he should vote against nominations, A vote was then taken on laying the motion to nominate State officers on the table, with lowing result :—Yeas, 9; nays, 18 A noise and confusion here ensued, several motions being made at once. was restored Mr. Van Allen said that if there was @ feeling against thenomination of @ State ticket he would not press it. Mr. Horcnkiss was strenuously in favor of & State ticket. He thought if the Convention did not nominate State oficers that all their precious labors would be thrown away. Mr. BILER said if the State ticket was not nomt- nated Mr, O’Conor would lose the support which he would otherwise receive in the country. He earnestly hoped that the Convention would nomir nate a ticket. Mr. GoopLETT thought that no State ticket could be nominated which would stand, and if we do nominate a ticket that can stand it will not receive the vote awarded to the electoral ticket. Mr. VAN ALLEN withdrew his motion for the nomt- nation of State officers; whereupon Mr. CHATFIRLD moved that the Chair appoint a State Committee ta consist of representatives from each Congressional district, Carried. Mr. VAN ALLEN then renewed bis motion for @ State ticket, which was lost—ayes, 12; noes, 16. The Convention then adjourned sine die, PROBABLE HOMICIDE IN BROOKLYN. A Woman Stabs Her Husband with o Shoemaker's Knife. John Hartigan, ashoemaker, who keeps a shopia the basement of house No, 88 Atlantic strect, South: Brooklyn, quarrelied with his wife, Johanna, at @ late hour on Wednesday night and struck her with his fist. The woman, who is said to be a person of very high temper, and rather addicted to the free use of alcoholic stimulants, seized a cobbler’s knife which was on a bench near by and made a lunge with the weapon at John, - The broad-bladed, murderous implement penetrated the right side of Hartigan, ee ig Fe wound three inches in lengthy and perforating the lung. The police of the Third precinct took Mrs. Hartigan into cus- tody, on complaint of the injured man, Medical aid was. aor and it was prcbenee to take the patient to the Long Island College Hospital, but he (whether wisely or not remains to be seen) refused to accept the skilful care of that institution. The risoner Was arraigned before Justice Delmar yea and was held to await the result of che im rday, juries inflicted. She 1s fort, years of age and a na- ‘ive of Ireland, Asa coincidence it is worthy of remark t 4 similar affray occurred directly opposite Hartigan'’s shoe store a year when we” Riely Killed hor husband, who was ah shoe- maker, with a eobbler’s knife, Mrs, Riely was tried for her life, and the ie of solf-defence being entertained by the jury she waa acauitted.