The New York Herald Newspaper, July 9, 1872, Page 4

STOKES. Dnder Examination---His Version Rencontre with Fisk and Par- ticulars of the Shooting. STOKES DOGGED BY DETECTIVES Josico Mansfield on. the Stand. Fisk Negotiates for Peace, but Fails. The Threats Held Out—“I Will Kill Stokes.” The Eaton Midnight Mystery Par- tially Unravelled. ANOTHER BOUT BETWEEN COUNSEL, Intense Excitement in the Court---All Lars to | Hear Stokes and All Eyes to See Josie, FIFTEENTA DAY OF THE TRIAL | The fifteenth day of the trial of Edward 8, Stokes has surpassed all its predecessors by tho intense dramatic effect produced in the appearance of the prisonor on the siand, who was kept there from the Opening of the Court until twenty minutes to three o'clock in the afternoon, when Helen Josephine | Mansficld followed him, to be succeeded in turn | by Marietta A. Williams, William Stobo and Wil- liam F. G. Shanks, in all five witnesses, who took up the entire day's proceedings by their testimony. Stokes, who: was yesterday, for the first time during the trial, addressed by counsel on | both sides as “Mr. Stokes,’ came into | Court, as usual, under the charge of Sheritt | Brennan and Deputy Sheriff Shields, who | escorted him to his seat behind his counsel. Stokes wore linen summer trousers, with a small | black stripe, white shirt, with handsome diamond pin, and black tle with white spots, besides the usual gray summer coat. He was looking well and in seeming better spirits than usual. His prother, Horace Stokes, and his mother, Mrs. Stokes, the latter dressed in deep mourning, were also in Court, the latter lady sitting near her son Edward. Mr. Stokes, Sr., came into Court later during the day and sat near the prisoner. But the great attraction of the day was the ap- | pearance of the modern Cleopatra in Court, who is known in this fight as Helen Josephine Mansfleld, and her cousin, Mrs, Marietta Wiiliams, in addition to the mother of Mrs. Maustield. Mrs, Mansfeld came into court attired in all the tmagnificence that gold, silks, diamonds and laces | could bestow, She had descended from her car- | rlago in Broadway, and, as a great many people | have a curiosity to know how this Aspasia dresses, (t shall be given. First there was a heavy black silk underskirt, covered over with some white filmy fabric Which came to the throat, and over her | shoulders was thrown a very handsome black lace | Shawl pinned in front at the shoulders. Around | her neck Was a massive gold chaln, pendant | from which was an equally massive gold | cross, and, to make it complete, at her wrists were massive gold bracelets richly chased. Mrs, Mansfield wore a Henry | Quatre hat, with a rich black vell and long lavender | kid gloves. In her ears were jarge hoop earrings of gold and sapphire. She sat behind the reporters | uring the day, and on her right was her mother, | Mrs. Mansfleld, who was dressed tn black silk, and | who is still & very prepossessing woman. Mre. | Helen Josephine Mansfeld is a woman of extra- | ordinary fairness of skin, while her mother is | detectives. | morning. | the carriage, but did ut molest themin any way. Garker, stouter and shorter in stature. Helen Josephine has dark, liquid eyes, and her cousin, Marietta Williams, is a blonde, with tawny hair and tray blue cyes. Her dress was also a tawny: | colored silk dress of two shades, and she had 9 | d black hat on the top of her head, | with the exception of the heavy gold hogp earrings, similar to those of Mrs, Mansfield, Dividing the attention with the afield party | were the fe crowds of Erie Railway ployes, | who yesterday filled al! the back seats in the Court, a an to swarm around the seats ofthe rey men frum the eavoring to crowd the press seats with the usnal effrontry of Besides these individnals, who ave and fame in the mass, Mr. John Comer, way agent, was ip Cor rday, | sembiage | on, who takes & plight in attacking this ill-jated individual da mak an exhibittou of him for the benefit of the audie: When Mrs, Mansficld saw Siokes yesterday morn. | ing in Court it was for the first the since his con dinement for the killing of F January 6. This yoman, who is a magnificent Medusa, took a long, | tender look at Stokes, and seemed for a moment to | rink in bis every feature. Still the Medusa kept her nerves well in hand, and thought, no doubt, of the many strauge things that ad happened since she last saw Stokes, six months ago, at the Yorkville | Police Court on that memorable Saturday morning. | #tokes looked at Mrs, Mansfield and just bowed in | return to the look, and Mrs. Stokes, the mother of | the prisoner, who is said to be @ woman of strong | religious feelinga, regarded Mre, Mansfeld with @ | look that only a mother could fathoni. | The first witness called was & man named Hyland, | who did not answer, and then, amid a great bustle, | the name of “Edward S, Stokes’’ was called loudly | out by the Crier of the Court, All the people in | court, including the colored coachman of Fisk, got on their feet to have a look at the prisoner, who | Vory quiletly watked up to the platform beside the | Judicial bench, and took the Bible im his hand, | holding bis eyes down while the oath was / administered to him. Then he sat in the chair and underwent the examination, both direct and cross, | which lasted from fifteen minutes past eleven to | twenty minutes of three o'clock P. M., with the | exception of an interval of halfan hour for lunch | nd intervals for eloquence by Mr. Beach, who at- tempted to make a summing up thins early in the case, as the eagio-beaked Tremain expressed him. self in objection. Stokes told his story as well as any story was ever told to a jury by a prisoner in @ capital case. He declared his movements during the day from the time that he left the Court with District At- & | torney Yellows and John MeKeon until | he took oysters and ale at Delmonico's. | Stokes said that he was thirty-one years | of age, by birtha Philadelphian, and that he had | lived im that city twenty years, and that he came | on arriving here lived with his uncle, Mr. Peyton | Gilbert, in Fifth avenue, for two years, after which Abe of] refining business at Hunter's Point, and | had business relations with Fisk before the shoot- Mr. Tremain, | asked what they were, and the District Attorney, | for the fifty-second time, objected, Then there was | nounced the corrupt judiciary, oue whom he said | dmpeached and @ third was dead, | Mr, Tremain argued at length the admissibility of from the Philadelphia College to New York, and — he went into the produce business and then into | dng. The counsel for the defence, | @ lively little sparring match, and Mr. McKeon de. | had been compelied to resign, © second had beon | gertain evidence in regard to the relations of Fisk | | opened. othe) | fied | akin to anxt and Stokes before the shooting. Mr. Beach ‘fol- lowed tn a very long speech, taking near an hour, and was followed again by Mr. Tremain, who de- clared that he believed that the long speech of the counsel. just finished had nothing to do with the case in any way a8 to tho admisalbility of evi- dence that the defence were surrounded by Erle influence, Erte detectives and Erie agents. Judge Ingraham stated that he supposed any man (rofer- ring to the Erie agent Comer) had a right to be in Court, and Mr, McKeon retorted that he must then take the consequences of the murderous p! {ter @ good deal of this legal warfare the pris- Oner went on to tell his story at lenge, So tell how he Lien to the Grand Central Hotel on menere 6, und stated that he believed it was about a qu ter past four o'clock when he entered the hotel; called there while in company with Mr. Bailey, be- cause he saw a@ lady in the window whom he be- lieved he had seen at Sarat, and he lifted his hat to her; Mr. Bailey, whom he had asked, would not go over to the hotel, and he entered the hotel himself; went in the ladies’ entrance and up seine aid not stop or toiter around anywhere, The lady came out of the porwr, and he left the parlor and went back the stairs and was going down; was down about four or five steps when he met Fisk comity 4 who made & rush at him, and when Fisk got the piatform of the stairs Fisk pulled out his pistol, and he saw it quite plain in his hands. It was @ silver mounted vistol. Fisk was on aline with the prisoner, and The latter crossed over, jumping aside; swore that he cried out to Fisk “Don’t fire,” and then polled out his own pistol and fired at Fisk, Had it in his outside coat pocket. He leaned on the rail on the side cf the stairs and cocked with one hand and fired, ik held his pistol in both hands, and as Stokes fired Fisk cried “Oh,” and he dropped his pistol after the kecond shot of Stokes, Stokes sweara that ho fired purely in his own self-defence, as he believes that Fisk meeting him on the stairs intended to take his life, Stokes says ho asked for a doctor, and ts positive that the boy Thomas Hart swore falsely when he sald he was present at the shooting, Stokes then went on to describe at length the peo- ple whom he saw in the haliways, and also swore positively that Fisk, in his room, to which tho wit- ness was brought, did not state that “That is the mun who shot me; take hin away,” but merely sald, “That is Mr, Stokes,’ and then turned hig eyes away. Stokes swore that he did not mean to kill Fisk, and asked for a Coctor, but that he meant to hit him when he saw Fisk draw a pistol on hun on the stairs, from which he said he could not retreat, He swore that he had heard that Fisk had threatened his life re- peatedly, and that the last threat ho had heard of Was about December 20, previous to the shooting. At the recess the Mansfeld party went out to take Iunch, and Stokes, with hig counsel, Messrs, ouand ‘Tremain, and Mrs, Stokes, went into the Supreme Court Olambers, where they had a of which Mrs, Stokes did not partake, stokes came out soon after and he scemed iu much better spirits than usual, owing to the evidenco produced in his favor, Mrs. Mansfield made an immense sensation when Mr, Townsend called her for the dofence, and, as in the case of Stokes, her appearance on tho stund caused all to crane their necks and stand up, looking over each other's heads, On the cross- examination of Stokes ny Mr, Garvin he related th wine story, exactly word for word, a8 he had told his own Counsel, Mr. Tremain, on the direct, The attack on Mr. D, B, Eaton was also discussed, but the questions were excluded by Judge Ingra- ham, Stoies told when he had purchased lis pistol, and said thatit was @ four-barrelied one, and that the charges had been in it for six months before the | shooting, Mrs. Mansfield took her seat tn the coolest man- ner, fully equalling the coolness of Stokes, whose hand, in pointing toa diagram on the wall, never trembled, Helen Josephine was frm, too, and flut- tered her fan with playful vivacity while she was examined. She swore that on or about December o Fisk sent her @ note, which was produced in Court, and, being at frst rejected, was alterwards admitted in evidence. This note was taken to Mrs, Mansfield by a Boye who delivered it to Mrs, Willams iirst, The latter was present when it was It was signed “J.,” and asked for an appointment with Mrs. Mansfield, which the jatter made at half-past ten in the evening. Fisk came, and made a demand that Mrs, Mansileld should witn- draw her libel suit which she was pressing against tum in the Yorkville Police Court, and Mrs. Mans- fleld swears that she declined to do so uniess Fisk, over his own signature, should come out in the papers and publish a full and entire ication of her (Mansfeld), which Fisk said he could not do, as many others were involved in the matter, Mrs. Mansfield says that she then declined to withdraw the case, when Fisk pulled oat a silver-mounted ivory-handled pisto! and said that bloodsned would come of it, and that he would kill Stokes, and that she sald, “Oh, no; you won't do an Ippo sort,” as she didnot believe him, but that she warned Stokes to be more careful when he next saw her (Mansfield). On the cross-examination by District Attorney Garvin Mrs. Mansfield testified that she knew Fisk to have eight or ten pistols in the house at one time; and that on one occasion she sent four of themaway. She knew that he had carried pistols: on the cecasion of the Biack Friday excite during (he Susquehanna and Brie trou! wi hey two went to Jersey City togetier. These Stated occasions; but he had carried them at Mrs. Williams, on being sworn, testi- he had h Fisk threaten the life of Stokes on several occasions, and bad known him to carry pistols also on several occasions in his clothing. The last witness but one was a Mr. Slobo, a merchant, who testifled to having been present at the Southern Hotel at filteen minutes past four o'clock on January 6, and saw Stokes cross over, haying left a friend at the other side, and, taking off his hat to some one, enter the ladies entrance of the Grand Central Hotel. W. F. G. Shanks, the city editor of the Tridune, testified to baving been in company with Stokes; were foliowed by two men, whom he told him were Erie Kailway The Court then adjourned until this A mob followed the Mansfield party to Ww OPENING PROCEEDINGS YESTERDAY. STEROLS The opening proceedings of the fifteenth day of James Fisk, Jr., were awaited with a fecling almost The jury, im and fresh-looking after their day's rest, entered the Court about the usual time, aud arranged themselves for a com- fortable sitting. Criera and Court officers were running to and fro in ali directions, keeping tho | crowd in order and fixing the seats sons to make the most room for the pressing throng. Judge In- graham slowly wended lis way in, and took his | seat on the bench, THE PRISO! 8TOK preceded by the Sherif, entered the Court at half. past ten o'clock, and sat behind his counsel, It was noticeable that a8 Stokes walked In Mra. Mans- field looked towards him cagerly, her lips mean- | while moving, as if to say, “What a chango bas | taken place!’ The crier made his characteristic call to order, and the trial was resumed, GEORGE BAILEY RPCALLED. The first witness called was Mr. Bailey, He isa middle-aged man of very respectable appearance, When placed on the stand he stated that he met Stokes opposite the Grand Central Hotel, and wae speaking to him, when Stokes looked up towards the hotel and saw a lady at the window; he ex- claimed, “O, George, there fs a lady whom I met ft Saratoga; I must go and see her; come alon| with me;” I sald 1 had not time; he took hold o ne hy the coat and gried to get me to go; 1 refused, al 1 ouw Ain fo dcvous €8 fas hrotal ©! j STOKES ON THE STAND. When the prisoner was catled as witnoss in his own behalf the excitement ip the Court reached ita | culminating point. Stokes quietly walked up to the seat, and, having been sworn, testified as fol- lows (he was a little nervous at Orst, but soon gave his evidence with distinctne “| — To Mr, Tremain--You are the prisoner in this case ? A. Yes, sir, ¢ What is you age? A. Tam thirty-four. . Where Were you born? A. Piuiadelphia. . How long did you reside there? A, Twenty years. i Q ere did you goto from Philadelphia? A. New York, Q. Where did you go to? Fifth avenue, é Did you come from college here? A. Yes, sir. A. To @ friend's, on . The Penusylvania College? A. The Pilladel- phia Voliego. IN THR DRY GOODS BUSTNESS. Q. What business did you gointo? A. The dry goods business, at 25 Water street. Q. How long did you continue in that business 7 A. Until 1865, Q Did you then go into the oli business’ A. Yes, \ air, Q Where? A, Hunter's Point. Q. How long did you continue tn that business ? A, Until the time Mr. Fisk turned me out of it, ‘The District Attorne: object. Q. What date was it when you left that business ? A. January, 1870 oF 1871; ft Was 1870. Q Two years last January’ A. Yes, alr. vy BECAMB ACQUAINTED WITH FISK. Q When 4)d you first become acquainted with Mr. Fisk? A. T firet became acqualuted in the month of July, 1869, t Where? A. At the Erie Ratirond office. id you have any business relatios prior to this alleged homiciae Stone with him The District Attorney—I object to that, Q, State generally What was the character of those relations, ones toand es out, Q, Were your reiations friendly and intimate ? Objected to and exciuded, +3 Mr, ‘Tremain—May we not show, your Honor, the mental condition of the prisoner, the business transactions of the prisoner with the deceased and ihe effect the treatment by Fisk had upon Stokes ¢ Mr. McKeon offered the evidence under the pica of tnsanity, on the broad ground that owing fo a corrupt judiciary Stokes was unabie to regain his rights, abd tet the jury estimate the effect of his losses and wrongs upon the Tal Tt was well Known that one of the Judges was impeached aud another resigned, and another was, unfortunately, Mr. Tremain sald Stokes believed he had repeat- odly been foiled tn his efforts to got Justice, owing to Fisk's connections with the rallway influences and Lod nag , and this man Fisk, by pcomegny of armed men, forcil took possession refinery belonging to (Stokes’) mother; got an injunction to prevent him bringing suit to recover it, and commenced st him on the volous ground of embezzicment, If all this was true, and that Stokes wen paranas. or believed he ‘was pursued, by armed Ee jans, all this ought to recelved as bearing on the question of insanity, an to show that when the prisoner met the deceased on the 6th of January he knew that be meta man actuated by vindictive feelings against him. Mr. Beach replied for the posers Hon. He said his learned friend was too advanced in bringing In evidence as to insanity or disturbed mental oon- dition, There must first foundation laid that there were acts and indications suggeating insanity prior to the homicide, and then yw proof to be ven of such @ state of mind, As to the allega- ions about a corrupt judiciary, one judge was driven to resign, another was under for im- peachment and a third was driven to a premature grave by the cruel action of his ju ; but not one of those was judge in a trial as tween Stokes and his victim, THESH ASPERSIONS ON THR JUDIOIARY OF THE CITY, and the unfounded and atrocious calumntes uttered against the deceased Mr. Fisk, were intended to have thelr effect upon the jury and prevent tho course of justice, Tho deceased had faults, but he had a large brain and a generous heart, and there are greatful hearts grieved at the slanders against him adopted by the defence, A most unjustifiable assault was made upon a gentlemon who sat at Your Honor's feet on Saturday, and he was paraded before the audience as a man who was @ friend of the deceased. We, too, continued the counsel, have bean assailed, 1 om not accustome to hear ‘myself galled é bloodhound; I gm not accustomed to bo told that my palm ig #talned with blood money because I am associated with the District eee pb in discharging a duty, with the utmost kindn' toward this defendant, and in pursuit of my professional rights. I tell the gentleman that I stand here under an authority as Unimpeachable as his own, and with a professional and personal propriety as irreproachable as his own; and as long as I dischar, “duty with pre: priety 1am not to be told that J am forgetting flumenity and professional duty. Counsel went on to argue that supposing the deceased was a bold, vindictive man, that would be no justifi- cation for shooting him on alight, There was no proof of Fisk being armed, but the flimsy pre- tence is put in that Stokes saw some movement of the hand aa if taking out a pistol, and then the deadly bullets sped upon their errand. When a men draws a pistol and shoots his adversary the law assumes premeditation; it asaumes that he meant the natural consequence of his act, that ho fotended to kill, and that 1s the premeditated de- sign, and he can only be justified by having correct aud reasonable impressions, founded upon facts, that his Ilfe was in danger; otherwise every agsas- sin would have such “impressions” after the deed, and there would be immunity to homicides, ‘The Court ruled not to go back as far as 1869 or 1570 either upon the subject of premeditation or otherwise. He also intimated that lengthened dis- cussions between counsel would not be allowed, and that statements as to the relations between the parties, if connected with the transaction itsell, would be admissible, EXAMINATION RESUMED, Mr. Tremain—-Your (onor, can we show tho RELATIONS EX1S iG BECWEEN THE PARTIES at the time of the occurrence ? ‘The Cou i, Sir. Q. What were Fisk’s relations towards you at the time of the alleged homicide ? Obiected to. The District Attorney—This 1s a general question, and 1s objectionable 28 allowing the prisoner to give his own construction of those relations with- out regard to time or circumstance, The question is too general and bald, and it would be impossible in answering it to confine the witness withia the ruling of Your Honor, t! A Court—Ask as to the time of the occurrence itself, ‘Q. On the 6th day of January last were the rela- tions of the deceased towards you Iriendly or hos- ile 9 Witness (raptdly)—Very hostile. Q. How long had they been so—for some weeks or months ? Objected to. Question admitied, Witness (again answers to reply) —They had been hostile for nine months, Q. I will now call your attention to the 6th of Jan- uary; ou the morning of that day had you been be- ee justice Bixby, at the Yorkville Police Court ? . Yes. Q. You were engaged in a trial there? A. I was there as a witness, Fisk was a party to that trial? A. He was, . Fisk was not there himself? A. No. Q. How long before that 6th of January had you seen him for the last time? A. J think the last time I saw him before that was on the OPENING NIGRT OF THE “BLACK CROOK,” two of three weeks previous; I had been there buying tickets for the theatre, Q. Do you know he had been sick previous to that time, 6th July? A. I thought he was sick; T heard he had been sick for a week, Witness was admonished by the Court to confine his answers to what he himself knew, Mr. Tremain—We propose, Your Honor, to show that the prisoner, when passing the Opera House that day, did not expect to see Mr, Fisk, it being Known to hit that he was sick, Mr, Boach—It was proved that Mr. Fisk had been out onthe Thursday previous. (No notice taken of the remark by thé defence.) Q. What time did you leave Justice Bixby’s Court on that day? A. I'think it was about two o'clock, Who was with you when you ieft? A. District Attorney Fellows, John McKeon and myself—we left in a carriage together, Mr, Tremain—Why ¢o you interrupt the witness | ine * All that passed between them was admitted the testimony of mee anes You caunot get along without your “1 ohieg | Lobject!" hat conversation had you with him? A. The conversation was that I would not be ready to go to Providence on Monday unless I hud these papers with me to hand in. What inquiry did you make as to the residence of theso ment A. I inguiced where I could find them; he sald I would find Smith at the co-ner of Broadway and Amity street; as I said betore, Fe ris formerly had livery stables near there, said | would find one or both in that local the Hoffman House I found some of the ps my had left some of them at Miss Mansfeld’s house t! re wag that? A, 359 West Twenty-third ev, nl heiore, I got into the coupé at Twenty-fourth street and told the driver to drive me to 359 West Twenty- third street, and he went down Sixth avenue; he drove me thar without stopping; I did not tell him ‘don't recollect whether { looked out at ow to tt | ho Opera Houss or not when passing it; probab! did, as I almost always did 60; when I react Miss Mansfield’s I found the windows all shut uj and I thought to myself that Miss Mansfeld musi be sick, as she had been sick before leaving the Court, and I thought 1’d not disturb her thet ‘The Court (to witness)—It is not proper for you to state what you thought about this or that thing. oo Tremain—Can hoe not state why he did not g0 The Court—Q, What did you do? A. I told him to drive me to the corner of Broadway, near tio Grand Central Hotel; I did not kaow the street at that moment; I did not give him any other direc- tions what way to go or how to drive; J turned round while we were in Sevonth avenue; I was then read .ng a paper, and told him to go down Seventh avenue; | wanted to go that way on ac- count of the wooden pavement. The pavemout was rougher on the other atteotat A Yon cs hat were you going there for? A, To Smith & Ferris’; when I fot to the corner of Fourth street and Broadway I rapped with my cane at the Tintoy, and he stopped, and I got out and paid hum $3 from thore I walked up to Dodge Oham- rlin’s, a saloon which Smith and Ferris often frequonted; I asked a gentleman that was stand- oe at the door if he had seen the parties; he re- i? ied that Smith was in tho sample room at the ex- reme end of the store; I wont in and saw Smith and talked to him on the business; I supposed I talked with him over five minute; after I had finished my conversation with him I met Mr. In- raham and Mr. Polhemus; myself and Mr. Ingra- am had some private conversation for about another five minutes; I was ia the place in all about ten minutes; 1 then crossed over to the corner of Auity street—northeast corner—whore [ was told T would bo ee to find Ferris; I didn’t sce him, and there I met with Mi. Bailey; he asked me where I was going, and I said to the Metropolitan Hotel to get tickets for the Black Crook; Lasked him would he not coms with me and he consented, and we walked together down Broadway till opposite the grand entrance of the Grand Central; peeaie it I noticed a lady at one of the parlor window: window as presented in tho diagram; the lacy was looking out of that window (indicating the win- dow in the diagram) and I thoucht she was a lady pees at Saratoga; I took oif ny hat to her nd she x PARTLY RECOGNIZED MH, and I then asked Mr, Bailey if le would not come over to the hotel with mo, but he refused; we had been talking on Some business in conuection with my brother; Lwalked part of tie way back with him to almost the corner ond street; he then walked back with me half a biock, until nearly opposite the ladizs’ entrance of the hotel, when I crossed over; the street was crowded with carriages; when {came to the sidewalk I was ten or fifteen feet mom the ladies’ entrance; Iwas not running, but I might have ran across the street; the carriages were all in line; I went pas them and w iked to the ladics’ entrance; I walked up tho stairs and noticed the boy Redmond standing there; I turned to the door of the ladies’ parlor, and saw the lady again, but she did not recognize me, and I could not well recognize hery I waiked along the main hall (POINTING OUT ON THE DIAGRAM) to the reading room, I think, as far back as I could 0; I went inside; it was the first time Ihad ever een on the second floor of the hotel; { looked in fora minnte; | walked back again along the hail and I saw the witness Henry, the Frenchman, standing near the ladies’ parlor talking to some ladies; I walked down the main hali to the dining room; as I did so the lady came from the window reine: d mo about there (indicating the spot on the diagram) ; as 1 turned sie went up the stairs; there were a great many people tien in the hail; i walked directly back f-om the diaing room; [ sup- posed it was the dining room; the doors were closed and I did not see inside; I walked directly back; didn’t stop at all here; went right down the hall; didn’t pause at all. Q. Where were you going to? A. Going out; I got down three or four steps : ENCOUNTERS FISK. whon I saw Fisk coming in; he looked up the stairs and saw me; he immediately sprung to the plat- form and drew out a pistol; he held it this way. THE FIRING. The witness, Stokes, then descrined the way, as he alleged, Fisk held the pistol. He turned half sideways in the chair to the left, put his lott hand tt advance of his right, eed both on @ level with his hip, as if cocking it, and so described the way Fisk was preparing for the encounter, Not the slightest chauge appeared in Stokes’ manner as he gave this part of his evidence; nor indeed was Uhere any perceptible change in his demeanor oll the time le remained on the stand, His utterances: were rather snappish, and his testimony harriediy given without fecling or any exhibition of seuti- ment, either as regarded the danger in which he himself stood, or at the dreadful fate which bis act had precipitated upon the unfortunate inan who had died by his hand. en_he pulled out the pistol I was alone with him; I cricd out, DON'T FIRB! I then jumped from the side Lwas onto the left Q Was this the case in which JOSIE MANSFIELD was aparty? A. Yes. . She was tue complainant? A. Yes. . And Fisk defendant? A, Yes— (witness cor- recting himself ) Misa Josie E, Mansfield, Q Bia she leave the Court when you loft it? A. Yes; she left with her cousin in another car- rhage. . Whoisherconsin? A, Miss Williams. Where did you drive to in your carriage? A, We drove directly to Delmonico's, at the corer of Broadway and Chambers street, Did you all go in there? A. Yes. How loug “did you remain there? A. We went in about halt-past two o'clock and remained to about @ quarter to three. I had some oysters | and a giass of ale with Mr. McKeon, Q. Without beimg particulariy interrogated pro- ceed and give the fury a narrative of your move- uents (rom that time down to and inclading the time of the firing at the Grand Central Hotel. ‘The witness (Stokes)—-Do you want me to give the conversation im the carriage between Mr, Pellows and myself? Mr, ‘fremain—No, T should be glad to have St, | but it would be objected to on the other side, berg gi urself to a statement of your intentions and of the facts occurring at that tline, | Tho District Attorney-—We object to a statement of his Intentions. | The Court—State what occurret. Witness (Stokes) After Tad inch at Delmonico's I went to tue office of Rufus A. Andrews, on Cham- bers street, right opposite, the City Hail, and 1 tn. quired of him about the indicument-—— District Attorney—I eubmit the whole of this conversation about the indictinent has been ruled out, Mr. Tremain—Tt was admitted, District Attorney—No, sir, Mr. Tremaine (repeating fronically, No, sir) —T | say yes, sir. The question was previously put, if the indictment was found, and it was admiited, ‘The Court—That was admitted, Tue District Attorney—Let him confine himself to the acts done, and when a point is raised as to con- Yersations we will dispose of them, Mr. McKeon (again red hot)—If Stokes had been on trial on this charge he would have been hung. What does the District Attorney mean by the oO! Jections—right off * The Court—! h ve Piready suggested to you that ‘6u (MY. McKeoh) have 0 right to catechize the istrict Attorney, Mr. McKeon—We have a right to hold him to his responsibilty, : e Court—No right to interrogate him in this way. Q. State what occurred in Andrews’ office? A, Fe told me there was no chance of an indictment being found against me by Mr. Fisk; that it had been laid over 4 number of times, and he supposed the thing was ended, and advised me to goto Provi- dence; I then left his office, and subsequently saw and spoke to Mr. Fellows, and he advised me by all means to go to Providence; he said the indictment had been dismissed; that it had been up some time, and that Jay Gould—— The Distvict Attorney interrupted the witne: and objected to his going further on the ruling o} the Court. The Court—The only thing admitted on the point was concerning the ladictment. Witness—He said it was dismissed, . Ind ys belteve it was dismissed? 0. Ktained and excepted to, What did you do then? Where did you go to? A. Lorossed over Broadway and got into & Pgs Q Do you know the name of the driver of that coupé? “A, He gave his name before the Coroner, (Lawrence Carr); 1 told him to drive me to the Hofman House; when I got into the coupé it was three o'clock; he drove me there, and I went up to my room to get some papers I had for the Court of Appeals at Providence, on Tuesday; when there I went to the ofice, and looking over some papers I found @ despateh returned that I had sent to John Doty, and I spoke to the clerk— Objected to, the District Attorney contending that all about the despatch had been raled out. The Court—The ag pag was ruled ont, Mr. Tremain—The fact of sending the despatch, Your Honor ? The Court—Yes, | Q. Go on and state what occurred? A. T had | some conversation about the despatch with the clerk and Mr, Jones. | The District Attorney objected, | Mr. Trematn—I didn't ask him what he said. The Court—The objection 1s, tat he may state himself the conversation, Q Did you see a Mr. F. McGuffin there, and had you any conversation with him? A, Yes, % Did you see Mr, Cottrell? A. Yes. |. Did you have any conversation with McLaughlin With reference to the whereabouts of those two Persons meutioned a8 witnesses in the Providence case? A. Yes; he sald—, District Attorney—I olucdly gi & hand side and placed my hands THIS WAY ON THE BANNISTERS (describing his motions), and fired at him, = How tar down were you then? A. Four or five steps. « Did you count all the steps there? A. Yes; there were sixteen; he might not have had his ieet on the steps; he was on the platiorm, . Did you intend to pass him re He came up quick; the boy Rediwond was inside of the door when | fired the first shot; I think Fisk was speuk- ing to him; I heard some conversation, Q. You had no {dea it was Fi A. NONE IN THE WORLD, Q. When did you first know it was Fisk—how far were you down the stairs? A. Iwas down four or tive steps; [might have been more, but that many at least. Q. Why did you fire at him? A, Because I knew BE WANTED TO KILL NE; he had his pistolin his hand in this manner (hold- dog it as before, as if cocking It), ) Did you see it? A, t Baw it distinetly. Q. How do you know Jt was a ra positive of it us I couid be of any BILVER-PLATED PISTOL} I saw it shine. ) Did you believe he was going to kill yon? A, Yes, directly he drew bis pistol; i Wouldu’t have had time to draw my pistol but that I cariied it in my OUTSIDE COAT POCKET, I pniled it out with ono hand and fred as quick as possible; when ty frst shot was fired he had his pistol In both hands, and held it so when tie little from the firing but he still hud the pistel in his hands; 1 cocked the pistol AND FIRED AGAIN} after that he cried out, “on, UM sm0T;"? he then dropped his pistols while I stood there a moment he turned his back thls way; 1 then walked up stairs; no one was there then; when the second shot was tired Kedmond was in the street, ut 1 think he was there when the first shot was red; no one was at the head of the stuirs; I then came up to tho head of the stairs. and my impression js that 1 dropped my pistol; I was yery much bewlidered ; my pistol was dropped beyond the head cs be stairs; tho first person I met was Mr. Hill; Harta wag no where there at all; J ‘revoliéot inecting ill, and he eapsintiens gays TO Mp, “WHAT IS UP? what fs the matter?” I sald, ‘A man is shot below stairs ;" 1 didn’t stop at all; the Frenchman theo came up tome, the man J had previously seen; he also asked me What was up, and [toid Lim thata man Was shot, to Re Q. Did you dc | that pistol to the parlor (where & pistol was foun¢ Ny A. I was not near that parlor atail; whenI got to the foot of the stairs (by which he was returning) I meta man there and said to him, “Can you get a doctor?’ He looked at me, and I said to him a second time, “Get a doctor, there is a man shot ;” he said nothing, and I started along on this cide (pointing to the diagram) and I heard some one cry out, “HERE | WANT YoU;" Tlooked round and saw aman some twenty-five feet of; he came to me andi turned round and Went With him; three or four other people came up aud what took place after that | don't know. q What waa your mental condition at that time? I was greatly bewildered, ana I don't know how I got out of ‘the hail; whether the officer bronght me out by Broadway or Mercer stieet I don’t know, Q. Do you recollect DENYING THE BHOOTING ? A. Thave no recollection of that; no one asked me about the shooting; I recollect some one speaking to me avout it; I know when I was CONFRONTED WITH MK, FISK; I recollect that. Q. State about that, what you recollect about 1t? A. The oflicer took me to the room where Mr. Fisk ley; he wae sitting in the centie of the sofa; bis coat was off; he was in his shirt sleeves; HE LOOKED UP AT MB and sald‘‘That is Mr. Stokes,” and then he dropped his eyes this way; he was looking very bad and I intended to have spoken to him to exonerate me, Q, Did you understand him there as charging you with the shooting? A. JT did not; the only words he said was, “?hat is Mr. Stokes,” and he said it as & ho was very bad. Q. Was there any circumstance operating on your mind that should he charge you with the shooting to impel you to appeal to him to say whether he had not first drawn upon your A. Yes. Objected to and objection sustained, The Court—The witness says that he did not so charge him, and the question is therefore irvele- vant, Anything that actually occurred outside the operations of his mind he is ot liverty to state it, Exception taken to the ruling of the Court, 9. Had you made up ay mind before yoa went tato that room that K he charged you with the GET A DOCTO! mas | second shot was fired; he migit have staggered a | shootingyon would have asked ‘him € admit that he had LL reaps ’ Objected to and excinded, and exception taken, Witness—Whi taken round to tho station en I was house I had no tdea that IR. FISK WOULD MAKB A CHARGE AGAINST MB, When you entered that Grand Central Hotel that day had you any tdea, knowledge, informa. tion or suspicion that Fisk would be there or would comethere? A, Not theslightest, & When ed the Opera House did you seo Fisk's cai here? A. I did not, heard he was sick? Ye And supposed he was then sick? Yes. Prior to your entering that hotel! had you any knowledge, Information or suspicion that’ he was going sormnere in his carriage that day? A. None wor en you entered the hall to go out had you any expectation or intention of meeting Fisk? A, None tn the world, Q. When you came down the stairs had you any knowledge that Fisk was in the house? A. No, sir, 2 You heard the testimony of the fireman, who said that before you entered the staircase to pass out you had stood for some time LOOKIN over the bannisters? A, That testimony was all every word of it, Q. Did you enter any time you came tn until lor 207% A. I did not, 9 Did you 5° crouching and bendin; hall from the ladies’ parior to that stalrcase? A, No; when | went towards tho stairs { went the other way. Q. Did you say before the fring, “IT HAVE GOT YOU NOW?” A, No, sir; I never made use of such words, % Did you speak a word from the time you went ore until you cried out to Fisk not to fire t in A. That was the only word Ispoke from the time I went into the hall till the moment I was going out, then T met him, Q. Was there Ii Legh in that lat hall’ for 108 to have seen Harte if he had been standing in he piace pointed out by him? A. Yes. Could you have failed to see him? A, No. When you TRAD YOUR PISTOL AT FISK did you intend to killhim? A, No, Q. When you culled for a doctor for Fisk did you think he was dying? A. No. ye Did you believe that Fisk's pistol was loaded ? supposed LOADED, Ir was or ha would not have drawn it. Q. When they arrested you down stairs were you searched for a pistol? A. Yes, . Where did you get that pistol? A, Ibonght it in Broadway, in July last, next door to Del- monico’s. Q. For what purpose did you buy it? A. I had it 81x months, ne Can ay ig enough to show that he had the pistol. Mr. Tremain—I propose to show that by reason of threats made by Fisk he bought the pistol, 4. Did you look from the head of the statroease Out to the sidewalk to seo if Pisk Was Coming? A, No, sir, : 4. Did you see his carriage come down Broadway before you reached the hotel? A. I did not, S Dia you see Fisk's carriage in front of the ho- tel? A. I did not. Q, Did you have a cane in your hand? A, Yes; I had a light walking stick. Cy Did you keep that in your hand? A, I did; I had @ large pair of dogskin dviving gloves on me when this occurred; [ had a large riding coat, conspicuous, made oO! Irish frieze, some Bix orse inches longer than the ordinary coat. q Before you met Fisk in that hall had you re- ceived warning or communication of threats made by Fisk to kill you or do you some great injury? District Attorney Garvin objected. Question ad- mitted. A, I had. Q. What was the nature of the threats communi- cated to you? Objected to. Q Hadyou heard that he made threats against your lifeY A, Yes; numerons times, Q. What was the last warning you received of his threats to kill you previous to the homicidey A. I thinkit was about the 20th of December. Q. Was tits the first time that you saw him after learning of these threats? A, It Was. A recess was then taken, Atter the Recess. The Court having reassembled the direct examin- ation of the prisoner was proceeded with. Q. What knowledge di aes possess at the time of this shooting in relation to the character of the deceased ? The District Attorney—I object to that, sir. I think it is immaterial. ‘The Court—After the evidence in the case, I sup- eed they have a right to show if he had positive knowledge of the character of the deceased. They can ask that. I had positive knowledge. ‘The District Attorney—I object to the question as indefinite and uncertaln, leaving it in the power of the witness to go over irrelevant matters, Mr. Tremain—Did you know what tho character of the deceased was? A. Yes, slr, Q. What was it ? FISK’S DISPOSITION AND TEMPER. Mr. Beach Suggested that “es to disposition and temper” must be added to the question to make it admissible, Mr, Tremaln—Well, as to disposition and tem- per? A. He was avery vindtetive, unscrupulons, desperate character of man, Who would stop at nothing to carry out his Gesigns at ail hazards. Q. Before you met the deceased on this oceuston, state whether you had been followed by rufianly vee persons, Whom you believe were sent by ‘ISK. Tne District Attorney objected, and the Court ex- cluded the question, DISCUSSION BETWREN COURT AND COUNSEL, Q. State whether you had been followed by per- sous whom you had been informed had beea sent by Fisk. The Court—Excluded, sir. Mr, Tremain—What is the ground of objection? The Court—I nave excluded it before. Mr. Tremain—Yes, because there was no founda- tion laid ior it, Tho Court—His bellef ts not a good foundation. Mr. Tremain—Are not the previous apprehensions of the prisoner admissible? The court—Not unless the: Q. Had you been followed vf var informed and believe: room in that hotel from the after the firing except par- along the are founded on facts. persons whom you had been sent by 18 District Attoruey—I submit that that is not 10) irk ‘ourt—I do not think that will answer; I think you ong! ask bin wua' he knows of his own knowledge. “ORY AGATS.”? Q. Had you been fnformed that Fisk had persons on your track to attack you, and did you see per- sous pursuing you at ditfercat times ¢ The District Attorney-—I object. ‘The Court—It is the same thing. Q. Had you seen persons following you whom yon were informed and believed had b seutby Fisk to attack you within a very short time prior to your meeting the deceased, The Court—The objection to all these questions is that tt has not bee: wn that Visk sent them. Mr. Tremain—is it ratuer tho feeling that influenced him at the time of the meeting rather | than tho actual fact that we have now to consider? Aro not the apprehensious of the prisoner proper testimony? The Court-—I do not understand that the rule admits cvidence as to what he had heard in regard to persons unless if is Showa to have been in somo Way connected with UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, Q. Mad you been informed @ short thine before this homicide that you were to be treated in the fame way that Eaton had been treated? The Cou t—Informed by whom? Mr. Tremain—sy a third persons who told him that they had it from Fisk ? The Court—I think the better persons to furnish this testimony are the persons who got it from Fisk. You ought to put in your best testimony Q. Did you nights and days for along time prior to this shooting travel in covered carriages from fear and apprehension that you would be attacked at the instigation of Fisk, derived from information communicated to you that Fisk had such persons ‘upon your track? The District Attorney—I object. Mr. McKeop—Put my own case, prehension from Fisk, and —~ The District Attorney—We are not wohl 2 hed Mr. McKeon—Suppose he knew Mr, Fisk's mode of doing business was to get in the background and to put forward desperate persons who would knock ser on the head for $500 or $1,000, Is that not to be put in evidence ? The Court--What is there that distinguishes this case from others ? Mr. Tremain—Simply that he acted under these apprehensions. ‘The Court—I willadmit the fact that he did so travel in a carriage, A. Lalways travetied in a carriage for that pur- pose night and day—never waiked. . Since what time’ A, Ever since my trouble with Mr. Fisk. Q. How long oefore this homicide? A, About twelve months; probably a little longer. Q. Did you ees persons to go with you to protect r you? A. Yes, 6 FISK'S THREATS TO STOKES. Q. Had Mr. Fisk told you prior to this meeting that he had a plan ail laid to railroad you to the State Prison! A. Yes, sir; he told me that he had it all arranged with the Distri Attorney's office to railroad me to State Prison: I communicated this to the District Attorney’s assistant, Colonel etal last summer; Colonel Fellows sald it was not true, Here the prisoner had evidently gone too far, and his cotinsel hurriedly stopped him, in accents that were just @ little tinged with irritation at his ex- cessive frankness or stupidity, Q. Did Fisk say to you at any time that they had “graveyards for those that crossed their track /”" A, Yes, sir; that was at a dinner party at Miss Mausfield's, on Washington's Birthday. JUDGE BARNARD AT MISS MANSFIELD'S. Q. Who was present f A. There was Miss Williams and 1 tuink there was another gentleman, a friend of mine. . Who was that? The prisoner cast down his eyes and seemed rather puzzled as to whether he should answer, After meditating in a nervous kind of way for a second or two, he replied in a low voice, “Judge Barnard.” and then added, with a stil more con- fused manner, 0. room or not at the time Fisk sald that. Q. How long had you labored under these a] hensions of attack eh have spoken Ne, i the meeting # A. About the time of my fist rest; I think there were some months during whiot Fisk proposed a settlement; I was not alarned I was under ap- pre: then: it was about tw years before the homicide, ‘bt to prove itinsome other way, or | “Tecan't soy whether he was in the | rr Mr. Tremain—Two t 1 Uy, Tremaln—Two years or onet A. One years pa Aber you were arrested and taken up bs 's room, were Fm carried to the station house! a Le ge . Mei sent fon’ . MoKeon immediately. ot f on time did ae -camne are as ve by just as ~— tl now. * m afterthe cocurtenos? "A. Ye st lit Trematn—Did T understand Your Honor to at We could not prove by witness iu fects done by Fisk, or statements ‘witness as rho gs that he had done ? The Cou his evidenos must be confined to general inquiries as to his disposition, oot emai —t offer to show articular acts done of the witness to other Persons, and communicat Fisk to the wit when ¢ were on friendly terms, sho character to be that of a rev unserup' man and a man of great power. 3 ja—Your Honor will not Pr te our e: The Judge langhed and sald, “Of course,” FISK, TWEED & CO, A MODERN ROBESPIBRRR, Q. Task also whether on one occasion, varty at Mansfleld's, the deceased to ti ma) as splerre Ti ecenessins denerenns tk e Court excluded the question and the do! excepted to the ruling, 3 . FISK AS A “SHANGHAR OPERATOR,” Q. Task whether the deceased also told him that on one occasion he had learned that a person w: ping $0 be a witness against him and that he ent hia down on his tug on board of a ve: bound for China, telling him that he would bri him back, but that he had instigated the cay (a ae tug to leave him, and that he was carried The District Attorney—I object. Tho Court—It comes under the general rults 1 do not see that there ts any use in repeating td class of questions. °. 1ask him, also, whether Fisk and his agents did take forcible session of the oll refinery by aa armed force of trey or forty mon? The Court—It is the same tutng over again another Bartouler act of wroag—uot proper to b@ tried tn this case. bon Besniain. Bere. again rom to Gea; question, » changing his inind, sat down again se, “That is ail, tie. ” 0 THM FATAL PISTOL. Cross-examined—You say you bought tho pie about six months before the shooting? A. 1 can Hix the date exactiy by Judge Beach’s s0n; I bellove that was about tie time, Q. Do you remember whether you bonght moré than one pistol at that time. A. Donly bought oue* Q. Did you evor buy any othor pistols at the sam place, except this one? i I bought another pis there about 6lx months previous Lo buying this one. Q. Did you ever buy any other at that same placs, except these two? No, str; I bought a pista! apne January, 1871, and [ lost it, aud then I bought 18 One, &. Were you ever in the habit of carrving a pistol before buying these two? A, 1 nevor carried ® pistol before thia tronble with Mr. Fisk. Q. task if you ever carried a pistol before say you bonght the one or the other of these two pistols? A, No, sir; 1 never did. [may be a litde taistaken about the date I bought the first pistol; it might be year anda half before this occurrences it was in July, Q. Do you remember the numbers of these pia- tols—the last one or the first? A, The first one was a different kind of pistol. > Q. What kindof a pistol was this you used on thia occasion? A. A Colt’s; it was the same that the Coroner had; it was just such a pistol as that. A MISSING LINK MADE GOOD, Q. Is that the pines A. Thave no doubt that that was the pistol. At this there was a Marked sensation In cow The very point that had so long been & flaw the case for the prosecution was now prov by the words of the chief actor the tragedy, and the District Attorney wi astonished to find that the long series questions he had been proposing to prove this very pone had simply been & waste of time, and that he ad achieved such an easy victory. The counsel for the defence looked correspondingly chagrined a¢ the frankness of their client. Q. Where did you carry this pistol? A. In side pocket most always; sometimes 1 carr! behind, in the pistol pocket of my pants, THE WHITE OVERCOAT, Q. Was this white overcoat that yon wore one that you had worn for some time previous. A. I¢ was one that I had very slightly work; it was @ very conspicuous overcoat; I had intended to go to Europe, and 1 thougat it would be a good overcoat to wear on the steamer: Q. What kind of a lat did you wear on that day ? A. A black high hat, Do you remember whereabouts it was that you took acab tothe Hoffman House? A. Botweent Chambers and Warren streets, on this side pf Chame- bers street and ou the nearest side of Broadwa; there were a good many lacks there, and it was @ line among the other hacks, & Had you ever ridden with that man before? A. Icannot say; he said at the Coronoi’s inquest thatl had; I suppose so; 1 do not know whether had ‘a not; Lhave no recollection whether I hi or not. Q. Did you go directiy in this ca) to the Hoffman House? A. Yes, sir, without stopping. Anyboay in the cab with your A. No, sir. . ANU how long a time did’ you stay at tie Hot man House after you arrived there? A. I shoud think it was about ten minutos; I went up stairs im my room; Lshould think about ten minutes. Q. Did you dismiss the cab there? A. No, ee the cab was standing in Twenty-fourth street; kept it waiting—the same cab and the same driver. STOKES’ WATCH FAST. Q. How long, according to your best recollection, was it from the time when you left Deimonico’s until you got to the Grand Central Hotel and w up tiiose stairs ? A. It was a little over an hour, Q. Do you remember whetuer it was before oF after four o'clock tuat you went mto the Grand Central Hotel? A, It was a quarter past four by my watch when I went iuto the hotel. Q. bid you look and see? A. It was ten minutes: cee by It, for [looked when 1 was at Chamberlin & Dodge's, and it was about five minutes after that. Q. Alter you left hy at the corner of Bong street is there any man tilit you recollect, either im crossing Broadway or ia going into the Grand Cen- tral Hotel, that you now reme: A, T did not ieave Batley at be Q. Weil, Wille you we entering the hotel? A, [hen ry omen— Q. Never mind what you heard—that you sawy A. Ido not remember to have seen any one. Q. There were plenty of people riding up and down snd on the sidewaik, were there not? A. Yes, sir; butI do not remember to have noticed OW out. led it y one that f kne er Whether you went up those ? A. The usual way l always go Q. Run up? A. No, sir; I walked np. Q. You re at? A. lcan’t say that I re- member anytaing particular about it; Tremembes going up lu my usual Way; 1 knoay 1 dd not ran. “THAT LADY,"? eyou ever seen that lady since that da hought you recognized at the window Qt that yo! A, No, sir. Q. Do you know who she was? A. Mr. Bailey: told me he laid an idea that she was— Q. Never mind that—of your own knowledge? A. I cannot say that I have any knowledge who sue was. Q. Do you know If it was anybody connected with the hotel’ A. 1 suppose it was; she had no things on, Q. Did she look like a guest of the hotel? A. Yes, sir, [should think she was a guest of the hotels Ido not know. «. Have you asked who she was? A, I cannot say that I have, & Have you had any information on the subject ? A. No more than what I got from Mr. Bailey. THE WITNESSES OF THE SHOOTING. Q. Do you remember when you came to the head of the stairs seeing anybody around the head the stairs or in the parlors? A. I recollect a g many persons being in the hallway as you go across to the dining room, Q. But where I have stated? A. No sir; there was nobody in the parlors, except in the private parlor 207; there was iv ty" standing there. Q. Who was that? A. I recognized him as the Frenchman who testified here. Q. Did you see Mr. Hill? A. I recollect seeing him after the shooting ; not before, Q. But you do not remember having identified nybody ¢lse as having been there before the shoot- ing? A. There Were several there; I cannot say ‘whom. @. When you turned that angle, and turnod the head of thé stairs, and began to descend, before the shooting, did you observe anybody on the stairs or on the stepladder? A, Ido not recollect seein, the stepladder as I was going down; I saw coming up. 9. Did you observe anybody on the stairs? A. Nobody on the stairs leading to the first platform, . Anybody below? A. I thiak there was; I Judge so—ofterwards, Q, But did you see any one on the stairs from the top to the bottom’ A. I did not, that I can recol- lect; I ld not pay any particular attention, . You said you thought Redmond was on the stairs at the tine of the drat siot? A. I think ‘was between the first and sccond door; I do m recollect the boy that described me as leaning om | the banisters. THE MEETING WITH FISK. Q. When was the first glimpse of Fisk you coming through the door’ A. 1 saw him’ com from the tuside door on this side; he came up the first six steps, and It was the last door he wae coming through, You did not look back to see what was going on’? A. No, sir; I was looking at him when he | made a Jump. } You do not know whether there was an; at the hoad of the stairs then? A, No, sit; 1 they were not there when I went down. STOKES! VISIT TO THE HOTEL, Q. Hod you been on those stairs beforo? A. I had never been on the second iioor of the Grand Central Hotel in my life before. «. Was any word spoken by Fisk fA. No, sir, * he pniled out a pistol; Leried that aloud, Did he have an opera Cloak ® A. A cloak ‘with fa coat with capes to it lied with red, Q. How long was it, as near as you can ‘remom- one now P Was theve by you? A, 1 sald to lim, “Do not. Q - listo palling his arm back Tsaw that be had tht I ber, from the une, du saw Fisk comiag throug,