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THE TREATY. | Secretary Fish Consulting with the For- eign Relations Committee, BEPORTING TO THE SENATE. The Supplemental Backdown Article Amended. SUMNER'S FIRST ATTACK. He Opposes the Report of the Majority. WASHINGTON, May 18, 1872, ‘The exigencies of the situation required the presence of Secretary Fish at the meeting of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee this morning. ‘The rumor that the committee had agreed to @ report in favor of a ratification of the pending protocol was sufficiently gastained by information regarding the exact ©pinions of the committee to induce him to appear im person at its consultations, for the purpose of evercomng the opposition of Messrs. Patterson, Sehurz and Casserly. The committee met at half-past eight and Mr. Mish arrived at the committee room at nine o'clock. ‘The consultation was continued until one o'clock, and was resumed ata later hour, when the com- Mittee agreed to report with an amendment which Goes not invalidate the tenor of the British demand fer our surrender A proposition was made that the Senate shall Fatify the supplémental article, and the executive session which followed was of an hour's duration. Mr. Sumner led off tn opposition to the report of the committee, and others followed him in the same ‘strain. No opposition was offered by the minority ef the committee, and without reaching any final Fesult the Senate adjourned. The exact character of the amendment to the ‘Pending proposition has not been ascertained. THE TREATY IN ENGLAND. Bridging Over the Alabama Claims Question in the House of Lords—Earl Russell's Motion and Lord Granville’s Appeal—A Little More Time Wanted and Then No More Silence—England Firm in Her Resolve. LONDON, May 7, 1872, ‘The House of Lords was last night crowded in every part, for a lively debate was expected ona motion by Earl Russell. That motion virtually amounts to the proposition that England should Withdraw immediately in case the indirect claims Were not given up by the United States, As the English government has adopted the policy of dal- dying with the negotiations, taking up no very de- eided position, in the hope that some arrangement might ultimately be arrived at, the acceptance of Earl Russell's motion would really amount toa vote of want of confidence. The motion of Earl Russell was originally fixed for the 22d of Iast month; then it was postponed till the 29th, and then, once more, it was postponed till last night. Lord Gran- Ville last night asked one postponement further, offering as compensation that the government ‘would make a clean breast of it, give up the policy of silence and let the country know the whole state of the case. Even this promise did not satisfy the House of Lords, because, as the House is to adjourn on the 13th of this month, it was evident that the government could, by conveniently delaying ‘their explanations for a few days longer, avoid all @iscussion, and get the entire management of the affair into their hands. They accordingly insisted on a promise from Lord Granville that they should Rave ample opportunity to discuss the conduct of the government before separating for the Whitsun- tide holidays. How eloquently this fact speaks for the want of confidence in the Gladsfone govern- ment. append a fall report :— DISCUSSION IN THE HOUSE OF LORDS. ‘Bar! GRaNvVILLE—My lords, before going to the Orders of the Day [hope your lordships will allow me to renew an appeal I have already made to my mobile friend (Lord Russell) whose motion stands Grst on your minutes. Your lordships will remem- ber that last peonney he postponed his motion till * to-day, in order to give your lordships time for more wonsideration. Your lordships will not have for- ten that on Thursday I stated to Pal lordships at we had received from ir. Fish an @nswer to my note of the 20th of March. I de- weribed the character of that answer, and I also added that, although I could ‘give no itive asaurance to the House, yet Her Majesty's government had grounds for hoping that a settle- ment would be arrived at which would be satisfac- tory tothe country. At that time 1 acknowledged the great forbearance shown by this House, and certainly I might have added the great forbearance ‘which the House of Commons had also shown, and J expressed a hope that for a short time longer that forbearance would be extended. I had some hope that my nobie friend would give an intimation that be intended to itpone, at all events for a few di @ motion of which he had ae notice, I appealed to my noble friend in private, as I now do in public, not to press his motion to-lay. My iords, it is a very painful thing for me personally, as your lord- ships will understand, that there should be @ mo- Won on your minutes in the name of my noble friend, that motion being a want of confidence in Ber Majesty’s government. I may add that it is also extremely painful that, such a motion being on the minutes of your lordships’ House, I should be in the position of trying to have that motion post- d instead of being in a position to encourage ita being brought forward at the earliest possible moment. But we are dealing with a very large and & very Lt lahat question of an international char- acter, an raonal feeling is entirely out of the ation. It is our bounden obligation to act as we ik our public duty requires—(‘Hear, hear’)— and, therefore, I do not scruple to tell my nobie friend that, in my opinion, and in the opinion of Her Majesty’s government, it would be averse to the public interest that the matter should be dis- @ussed to-day, when your lordships have not got that information which the papers that mast be in short time presented to your hag will give, ‘and also when Her Majesty's government, through a ‘pense of oo waquid be prevented from taking a fall part in the debate. My noble friend has been enough to answer me that it is already Bonounced that this House will adjourn on the 1. and not meet again until the end of the month, and he remarked that a fortnight after the fatter time has been appointed for the meeting of the Arbitrators at Geneva. Your lordehips will re- Member that on Thursday a noble and learned lord ite (Lord Cairns) put a question to me as to tt day I could fix for laying, the papers on the table, or making a statement. He asked that ques- tion without notice. Under the circumstances it would have been impossible for him to Fy notice ; but lanswered that in nogotiations of this sort it was impossible Fo, Rect the exact day on re} pouncementto Parliament. a eee Se ate red My lords, I believe your fordships did not think that. vos an unreasonable answer. On the other hand, Ido feel that it was fot a mere phrase when I thanked your lordships fof your forbearance. There are iimits to that re- ticence which we think it our public duty to ob- serve, and which we think, 80 far, has been use- fal to the public service, but we doubt whether it would be fair to ask Parliament to separate for any time at this moment, while leaving you en- trely in the dark with regard to the state of affairs. I bave therefore to state to your lordships that I be prepared before Parliament sep- erates either to present apers or to make a8 statement as to the position and of Sel, Rooratwons now gol Toon rdly think that under those circumstances my noble friend will refuse to liste my preal, for I am confident that noble lords on both sides of the Land big rather prs, Pag BAS pi thetr fairness to the rernmen would jisposed to give it ‘thelr best assistance when it has to deal wit rin international questions, rl RUSsELL—! for the (Hear.) lords, I gave notice of my I then latter of April. ut off ad NEW YORK HERALD, SUNDAY, MAY 19, 1872—QUADRUPLE SHEA. fj + on the 13th, which is just one (given notice es ‘time, he would propose the adjourn- ment of the House for more than a fortnight. Now he tells us that on the 13th he will either make a statement or lay the papers on the table of the House, My lords,I am sorry to say that I don’t think such an announcement meets what is due to Parliament. (Hear, hear.) It appears to me that if the papers were laid on ‘the table, or any arrange- ment were come to that i should be produced ‘on the 18th, it would be quite impossible that the House, adjourning on the same day for more than a fortnight, could pronounce any opinion on the ar- rangement come to or on the nature of the 2 et produced, It might happen that your lordships would agree with the arrangement made, or that you might think it a compromise which did not ap- pear to be consistent with the honor and the inter- ests of thiscountry. If my noble friend would say that he will not propose the adjournment till some later day than the i3th I imagine the House would prove the arrangement proposed. This isa very important question, and one on which the govern- ment have expressed a very decided opinion; but if they were now to give Way and make an un- worthy compromise such a course would occasion | ete anxiety, and, I may say, would excite great indignation in the country, Unless, therefore, m; noble friend proposes to alter the day for the ad- journment Ishall feel it my duty to proceed with my motion. (Hear.) Jarl GRANVILLE—In any diMculty I have ever ex- pertenced in the course of my long connection with your lordships’ House, I believe I may say that I never have been guilty of anything that could be thought unfatr—(cheers)—and I have no hesitation in gee that if it is the generally expressed wish of the House that after fe declaration which I hope to mako, or after laying the papers on the table, we should not ueey for a few days later than was suggested, I, for one, as a matter of con- venience to your lordships, should not be disposed to throw anyobstacle in the way. (Cheers.) Earl Grey—Before bas noble friend's motion is postponed I hope my noble friend the Foreign Sec- Tetary will give some assurance that in the mean- time no course will be adopted by the government which will pledge the country to any mode of pro- ceeding inconsistent with the course sketched out in the motion of my noble friend. Lord REDESDALE—I think it would be a great con- ventence if your lordships were to come to a deci- sion as to Whether the discussion on this subject should be taken before the holidays or after. You might say that you would not adjourn before Friday week, in order that the debate might be held on Thursday week. I cannot help referring to the notice which I have given on the subject of these claims, and to which I called the attention of the government last year, and algo since the com- mencement of the present session, If the question which I raised was brought into the arbitration it would precede the consideration of any question of damages whatever. It is one as to the right of the American government to demand pemages for acts committed by or on behalf of the South durin, the war now that the North and South have united, Ihave abstained from any interference in the hope that something would be done to render it unne- cessary: but I think this negotiation is now drifting into a hopeless state, and! beg to say that I have not relinquished my jntention of bringing the ques- tion again before your lordships, The Earl of DErspy—May I ask the noble Earl whether he can undertake, for himself and his col- leagues, that the papers shall be delivered on Monday next? ‘here {ig now a proposi- tion that we shonld not adjourn till Friday week; and if the ae were produced on Monday, 80 a8 to be distributed on Tuesday morning, we should still have time to consider, and, if necessary, to dis- cuss them before the holidays. That is an arrange- ment which I think evéry one would feel to be satis- factory. A shorter interval than that would not be convenient. It is certainly desirable to discuss the question with the papers rather than without them, Atthe same time it ts clear that if we only had them twenty-four hours before the adjourn- ment that would be useless for the particular pur- pose we have in view. Earl GRaNVILLE—I will either present the papers or make a full statement of the intentions of Her Majesty's government before the House is called upon to express any opinion, ‘The Marquis of SALIsBURY—What we desire is not only to be in possession of the papers, but to have time to discuss them before we separate for the holidays. I hope my noble friend will assure the House that he will not only present the papers on Monday, but that they will be in such a state as to be rei for distribution on Tuesday morning. Earl GRANVILLE—At the earliest moment I will either submit the papers or make a statement as to the proceedings of Her Majesty's government. I beg your lordships not to suppose that I have the slightest wish to preclude the House from discussing: oe Cl vias should it think fit to do so, (Hear, ear |?” Lord Carrns—There 1s still some difficulty, not- withstanding that the noble Earl has replied to more than one question. (A laugh.) ‘hen the noble Earl first addressed your lordships I under- stood him, while adverting to the circumstance that the House was to adjourn on Monday, to un- dertake that he would either lay the papers on the table or make a full statement with respect to the negotiations before we separate. Now, if it is proposed that the question of the ad- journment of the House should be kept open, and that the House, if necessary, should sit until Thursday or Friday in next week, I ask him whether he will adhere to his original promise and either make his statement or put us in posses- sion of the papers on Monday. If he does that then I think there will be ample time to propose any resoution that may be necessary. Tl GRANVILLE—I have to apologize to the House if I did not make self understood. I have not the slightest hesitation in a. that the answer which the noble and learned Lord assumes to be my answer is the correct one (“Hear’’) ; bat I wish your lordships to understand that I do not propose to postpone the adjournment unless it shoud be the general wish of your lordships. (‘‘Hear.”) Earl Rvussei.—As I understand, my noble friend is prepared to say that before the House is adjourned he will either produce the papers or make @ statement as to the negotia- ons, and that if your lordships should be disposed to think that you ought not to separate immediately for so long a period as he proposes, that then he will yield to the wish of the House, and allow a dis- cussion upon the new terms which we imagine are to be proposed by the [ete If that is the understanding I think [should be taking too much on myself if I were to bring on my motion to-day, and not allow my noble friend the short time he asks for in order to make a statement which may be an announcement of the the termination of this unfortunate difficulty. However, it is always to “be recollected that my noble friend, on the 12th of June last year, declared to this House solemnt and decidedly that the whole of those indl- rect claims were held away, and that they no longer formed part of the new agreement, although they might have been admissible under a previous one. It should also be recollected that my noble friend was one of the Ministers who advised Her Majesty in a document of the gravest form—in her speech to Parliament, at the opening of the present session—to declare that claims were put into the American case which we understood not to be part of the treaty. Ifmy noble friend will say that he adheres to those words—if he will abide by the as- sertion that the treaty of last year putan end to the indirect claims—and if he will say that, adher- ing to those declarations, the government will make no engagement inconsistent with them, I shall be prepared to postpone my motion, Earl GranviLte—I have answered a good many juestions to-night; but, in reply to my noble ‘tend, I may say that I am not aware that there is anything in the statement he has just made to which I object, I am perfectly ignorant myself of any intention of departing from any declaration I have made, either this year or last, on the subject | of the Washington Treaty. The only thing I wish to ard myself against is the idea that I shall pro- luce anything new at the end of this week or the beginning of next, arl RusskLL—I only wish, with your lordships’ leave, to refresh my noble friend’s memory as to what he said on the 12th of June last year, These were his words on that occasion :— These ntw pretensions might have been carried ont under the former arbitration, but they entirely disappear under the limited reference, which includes tnerely co plaints arising out of the escape of the Alabama. Ifmy noble friend adheres to those words I am wae and am quite ready to postpone my mo- on. Earl GRANVILLE—I do not wish to seem wanting in the slightest degree in respect to my noble friend, and therefore, even at the risk of Mhoodals Phd Lordships’ time, I beg to repeat the answer ave | already given, that there is nothing I said, either last year or this, which I wish to retract or in any way modify. Earl Russet1—I will, then, postpone my motion until this day week, on the understanding that either then or before that time my noble friend will be prepared to state the exact condition of the ne- gotiations. (Hear, hear.) The Times thus comments on the discussion :— of rarely exhibited a more remarkable scene than was presented at the com- menhcement of yesterday's sitting. There wasa large attendance of peers; there was an attendance Pee lik | large of members of the House of Commons, and the space about the steps of the throne appropriated to Privy Councillors was thronged with Ministers and ex-Ministers, who had come from the other House despite the attractions of a debate on the Scotcn Education bill, which was to end in a Ministerial defeat. A royal visitor tes- tifled by his presence the interest felt in the solu- tion of the Alabama difficulty by neutral Powers on the Continent. All lad come to hear what Lord Russell had to say and Lord Granville had to answer. The dimMiculty ot Bho toy Russell's motion ‘was not to be disguised; but the Cea) of con- senting to an increasing bewilderment of diplomacy was, at least, equally pressing. The Ministers of the Crown felt the critical character of the emer- ency, and Lord Granville anticipated Lord Russell y pledging himself that, if he would postpone his motion once more, he would be prepared on Mon- day next to present to the House all necessary Papers relating to the pending negotiations or to make a full explanatory statement. A very singular conversation followed. First one, then another, and, again, a third and a fourth peer Tose, each most reluctantly, each hanging back till the last Moment, so that the interlude seemed to be at an end halfa dozen times before it ceased, but each feeling that there must be no misunderstand- inj he supposed settlement offered by the inistry. A ay rod agreement was at last concluded, Next Mon the Ministers must un- themselves. Whet! the pending negotia- tions be or be not at that time concluded Lord granville must take the peers into his confidence. question will then arise whether the House shall adjourn. It had been proponed that it should naae Kaday apenian Sor p vacatian of sizbiepn. days, but tt would be mantfestly impossible to de- termine beforehand whether the explanations of the Foreign Secretary would allow the House to ad- journ at once, or would require an expression of Opinion on the stage which the negotiations had reached. It was, therefore, arranged that the qnes- tion of adjournment should be left open. If the Min- isterial explanations should prove satisfactory the Lords will separate, as originally intended, for the Whitsuntide Recess, butif there should appear to be a tangle requiring riiamentary intervention the adjournment will be delayed untti the Friday following, 80 as to admit of a discussion on Thurs day and the sneceeding day. Tt cannot be denied that this remarkable conver- sation produced a certain sense of relief. This was the result of many causes. Some were, perhaps, pleased that a dificult discussion had been for the time avoided, but there was a general source of satisfaction in the thought that | on Monday next the end must at last be reached. Ministers have seven days’ grace and the American government have seven more days for reflection. If the English and Ameri- can Ministers do not agree by the end of the cur- rent week that the presentation of the indirect claims at Geneva shall be superseded by a joint memorandum addressed to the arbitrators, Lord Granville will have to promise on behalf of the overnment that they will take no further step in the arbitration until the indirect claims are withdrawn, or to accept an address from the Lords to the Crown praying that further pro- ceedings may be suspended until the same end is arrived at. It must, indeed, be clearly understood that Lord Russell does eot call upon the Cabinet at Washington to make up their minds what they will do. President Grant and his Ministers may keep their counsel till the 14th of June, and if at that time they withdraw the Indirect Claims, the Atbi- tration will go on without interruption, The effect of Lord Russell’s motion is simply to put on record in the Journals of Parliament what has been affirmed over and _ over again in and out of the two Houses of Legislatare— that we cannot go on with the Arbitration while the question of lability for consequential damages is left open befor the arbitrators, We look upon this as 80 much a matter of course that we cannot but repeat what we have before said—that We regret the government did not accept it a fort- night since. The question is whether the Ministers contemplate it as possible under any circumstances that they should go to arbitration at Geneva with the claims for consequential damages hanging over the nation. If they regard it as impossible, why did they not accept Lord Russell’s motion, or— still better—avoid the necessity for Lord Kus- sell’s motion by a voluntary pledge that they would never consent to such a course ? They would have strengthened themselves by so doing, they would have reassured the nation, they would have en- lightened the Cabinet at Washington, As itis they have perplexed their friends, and they have en- couraged rather than discouraged a dilatory policy in the United States. We cannot be too thankful that. we are within view of the end of this' uncertainty. The nation has been these two or three months past like a man walking through along railway tunnel, doubtful, as his foot strikes now and then against a rail, whether he has got upon the line or is safe in the six-foot way, and apprehensive that at any moment a train may come by with a rush anda scream and find him unprepared what todo; but at length there is a point of light before him and he breathes freely again. We sincerely hope Lord Granville will be able to announce next Monday that the presentation of indirect claims will be superseded by an agree- ment on the part of the American government to instruct the Tribunal at Geneva to disregard them. We are persuaded that the clearer detini- tion of our own purpose resulting from last night's conversation will assist rather than impede this wished for end. There is no concealment as to the character of American opinion on the subject. It ia impossible to find any person in the States who does not say that he never expected the arbitrators would award a single dollar for the indirect claims; it is rare to find any one who does not con- dein their insertion in the case delivered at Ge- neva. A few offer an apology for having presented them to the judgment of the arbitrators, and the great mass would have willingly retained them on the record, seeing that they have been presented. This can be easily understood. None of us like to withdraw from a position we have assumed in a hfs matter, and there is, perhaps, even greater iMoulty in assenting to the propriety of some- thing like a national recantation. But when tt be- comes a question between superseding the indirect claims and the arbitration drop and the ‘Treaty of Washington be- come abortive, the verdict of the Ameri- can nation will not, we believe, be uncertain. It is not even now uncertain, The preponderance of opinion in the States cannot be misunderstood. It ia, in fact, only a question how far the President can risk his chance of re-election by consenting to the withdrawal of what has been imprudently put forward. This is openly acknowledged in the letter from our Philajelphia correspondent in another column, and the course taken by the Cincinnati Convention since this letter was written must tend to force General Grant to a decision. If he insist upon maintaining the claims as they stand he may gratify some feeling of national pride, but he will sacrifice himself. He will, in fact, consent to make himself the scapegoat; for the blame of the miscarriage of the arbitration will be thrown upon himself and his Cabinet. If he decides to drop the claims, he will not Cele censure for having allowed his government to placed ina false position, but he will be held to have made the wiser choice of a disagreeable dilemma. A survey of the motives operating in both directions leads us to believe that the American government will com- lete what they have begun; but, while we shall re- joice if this should prove to be a correct estimate, We must hold our position undisturbed by hopes or fears, and prepare for either fortune. 18 THE PLAY ENDED? ‘The tone of Lord Granville’s remarks last night and the New York telagrams of this morning have given rise to the impression that the hope of a successful issue to the negotiations had better be given up; that, in fact the play is played out. The | Pali Mall Gazette, in the following article, expresses the general feeling on the present phase of the negotiations, SIGNS OF THE END. There are many signs that our anxieties about the American dispute are drawing to a close, though not in the way predicted 80 confidently a few days ago. When Lord Granville and Mr. Glad- stone addressed the Legislature on this subject last week, they spoke in an obviously despondent tone; and there was no exhilaration in what Lord Granville had to say yesterday, while soliciting Earl Russell to postpone his motion, Certainly he had no such hopes to present to the Chamber he was addressing as justified his proposal to throw over all discussion of the matter till after the Whitsun- | ude holidays, nor did he exercise his usual dis- cretion in making such @ proposal. He might have known that the government would not be allowed to carry on for a fortnight, during which no ques- tion could be put to them, without some previous | declaration that would protect the country from any addition to the ambiguities and the shifts which | have done so much mischief already. Earl Russell Was right, we think, in postponing his motion. It is only fair that the government should be allowed all they can ask in such a case without absolute | danger; and though we are of opinion that they would have better consulted their own dignity x aryggior and gra bikie tnitea s and security, as well as the wishes and the inter- ests of the country, if they had already make known their determination not to acknowledge the indi- rect claims of America in any shape or in any way, there is yet time to proclaim such a resolve with all due politeness, and there will yet be time to do so on Monday next. Lord Granville tried very hard to obtain the free, unfettered space of the holidays for | farther negotiations; but, soon made conscious that this was a liberty that the House was india- posed to allow, he consented to an under- standing by which he is to make a statement or present papers on Monday, the day of adjournment, the House then being free to choose whether it will not continue its sittings in order to deliberate upon the matter so presented to them. It is obviously an awkward agreement, for if the Peers do not see the correspondence that is to be laid before them till | Tuesday (as they a. will not) they can- not easily decide on Monday upon the question of | adjournment. If the papers cannot be distributed till Tuesday, or even if they be expected to come from the printer’s hands on Monday, there can be no consideration of them on the last named day; therefore the proper course now is to decide oif- hand that the adjournment shall not take place till Thursday or Friday following. Meanwhile it is tobe obsefvéd that Lord Russell | did succeed largely in the main object of his mo- ba gregory to pledge the government not to con- sent to any form of acknowledgment of the claims for consequential losses, This his lordship accom- plished, with an adroitness not very common now- adays, When trickiness is too often its substitute. The Ear! sai: “It is always to be recollected that my noble end, on the 12th of June last year, declared to this House solemnly and decidedly that the whole of those indirect claims were | swept away, and that they no longer formed a of the new agreement, although they might ave been admissible under a previousone. * * * If my noble friend will say that he adheres to those words—if he will abide by the assertion -that the treaty of last year put an end to the indirect claims—and if he will say that, adhering to those declarations, the government will make no engage- ment inconsistent with them, I shall be prepared to postpone my motion.” This was a question that could not be easily answered except in such terms as the questioner wished to hear, The Foreign Secretary had to Say “L am per- fectly ignorant myself of any intention of Geparting from any declaration J have made either this year or last on the subject of the Washington Treaty, * © * There is nothing I said, either last year or this, which I wish to retract or in any way modify.” And what is it that was said last year that Lord Granville does not wish to retract or in any way modify now ? Earl Russell brought the words be- fore Earl Granville’s eyes, They were:—“These new pretensions might have been carried out under the former arbitration, but they entirely disappear under the limited reference, which includes merely complaints arising out of the eacape of the Ala- bama.” The repetition of this language yesterday is reassuring. What is next to happen has been darkly fore- shadowed for several days past, and the news of to-day strengthens ou! tie!) ns that we snail ear that there is an end to a vast deal of con- fused and hopeless tele; hing: The cor- respondent at ey, a and the Datly News cor- respondent at New York e that the recent negotiations have all but len through; both suggesting at the same time that there was never bp expected 8 mush them as the t sanguine, the timid and the speculative strove to make ont. One of these correspondents, whose communication is dated yesterday, says Mr. Fish in- sists that the position of the United States govern- ment has been: misunderstood. No withdrawal of the indirect claims. is intended. The Amertcan government will be pleased to have them rejected “at Geneva” (where we contend they must not ap- ear), if that decision should be accepted as set- ling the principle of the extent of the responsi- bility of neutrals, and with this view it invites pro- osals from the government of Great ritain. But the message adds that despatches from General Schenck show that the difM- culties connected with the arbitration have been “seriously increased by recent correspondence.” Moreover, Mr. Fish has had consultations with the Foreign Committees of the Senate and the House of Representatives, and the general opinion of the case and standing by it. So far the Daily News cor- respondent, In the Tinies telegram we read that on the Alabama question the American instruction to General Schenck to tell Lord Granville that if England would decide against the prin- ciple of claims for indirect damages Amer- ica would agree to the decision; — but that the American case presented at Geneva must stand unaltere: eva superseded by this arrangement. To this Lord Granville replied, agreeing to the neutral principle proposed, but maintaining that it should be limited to claims arising in a similar manner and under similar cir- cumstances to the claims to which the Treaty of Washington refers, Lord Granville also insisted on America withdrawing from its case the indirect claims, England maintaining these to be outside the treaty: for which the Foreign Secretary is to be thanked, and from which (if it be true) we may confidently anticipate what his last word wiil be. According to the authority for this same state- ment the American government has already come to adecision, He says:— proposition of Lord Granville’s differs from the American proposition, and the United States government consequently declares the proposition unacceptable, considering that its case cannot be withdrawn.” AH this is slightly discredited by what Lord Gran- ville said in the House of Lords last night, but there is too much reason to suppose that it is a faithful presage of the end, if not an accurate history of it. Nor are we able to discover so much reason to regret the failure of the treaty, if it is to fail, as (oMcially) disturbs many minds. It would only be serviceable if it gave full satisfaction to the people of both countries—to the people, as apart from the two administrations ; and it is clear now that if by any subtleties yet to be discovered the governments agreed to set aside the indirect claims to England's satisfaction, there yet would remain among a vast number of Ameri- cans all tho “heartburning” it is our very object to extinguish, THE TREATY IN CANADA. —————E Sir John A. Macdonald’s Explanation to the Do- minion Parliament. Orrawa, Ont.. May 18, 1872. In the House last night, in reply to Mr. Robertaine, Sir John A. Macdonald said the bill to give effect to the Washington Treaty could not go into effect until an order in council authorized it. The government could make no pledge in ad- vance that it would not go into operation before the Alabama claims were settled, The government would continue to give sufficient protection until the fisheries were open to the Americans by law. The government could give no pledge that the money compensation to be obtained from the Americans would be expended for the direct benefit and improvement of the Canadian sea fisheries, It would be subject to the vote and pleasure of Par- liament, OBITUARY. George Trimble. George Trimble will be buried from his late resi- dence, East Twenty-fifth street, New York, to-mor- row morning. He died there last Thursday even- ing, in the seventy-ninth year of his age. Mr. Trimble was one of the oldest merchants of the city. His life was made prominent by his strict pur- suit of a career which was at once honorable to him- self and useful to the community at large. He was connected with the administration of our public school system during many years, having been a trustee of the institution in the year 1818, In the year 1820 he was elected Treasurer of the Public School Society, which oftice he filled till 1830; he was Vice nd President from 1847 1863, having thus been an officer of the School So- ciety for thirty-five years, and its last President, He became a member of the Board of Education at the union of the two bodies in 1843. At the time of his death he was one of the Governorsof the New York Hospital. He was, also a bank director for many years. Mr. Trimble belonged to a Quaker family, Sarah Colt, Miss Sarah Colt, aged ninety years, daughter of Peter Colt, known as “old” Peter Colt, died in Paterson, N. J., on the evening of the 17thinst. She went to that city in 1794, and had the remarkable p of starting the first Sunday school ‘tates, which she organized in one of the Paterson factories. It was devoted to learning the poor mill boys to read and write, From this the idea of Sunday schools extended to other places, and finally turned from purposes of secular to re- ligious instruction, as now practised. When first started each school was devoted almost exclusively to educational purposes in the rudimental trades, Miss Colt will be buried to-day. ART MATTERS, Exhibition of Paintings at the Somerville Gallery. A very interesting collection of paintings has been placed on exhibition at the Somerville Gal- lery. It consists of about two hundred and seventy works by native and foreign artists. Some of the names are well known to the art buying public, and others are introduced for the first time, but even among these latter there are some whom we will like to meet again. The English school is better represented than in any of the previous exhibitions, though not in its best manner. Among the foreign artists whose names are well known are Bougereau, Macs, Hu ner, Verbockhoeven, Lambinet, Delort, Brioi back, Among American’ artists repre are Shattuck, 1 ¢ Haas, Bierstadt, fart, Brown, Whittredge, David Johnson, Inness, W Hart, Casilear, Moran. The paintings will remain on exhibition until the 2is¢ instant, when they will be sold by auction, DECORATION DAY. The following programme was arranged by the Memorial Committee at their meeting last even- ing:—The several Posts of the Grand Army meet at. Union square on the morning of May 30, and, in conjunction with the orphans of the Union Home and School, will march down Broadway to Fulton ferry, and, taking cars from Brooklyn to East New York, will be joined there by the Posts from the Eastern District and march to the Cemetery at Cypress Hills. After the decoration services are concluded they will return to New York to participate in the cere- monies at the Academy of Music, which will include orationa from Rev. Drs. Talmage and Newman, as well as music and recitations, The monuments of Lincoln and Washington, in Union square, and Kearny’s grave, in Trinity churehyard, will be decorated during the march of the procession. Colonel Joseph ©. Pinckney has been elected Grand Marshal, and Captain Michael Cregan takes the position of Chairman of the Committee, AOOIDENT ON THE ERIE RAILROAD. PASSAIC, N. J., May 18, 1872. This morning, just before daylight, as an extra freight train was approaching the drawbridge at this point on the Erie Railroad, the engineer, Mr. Harriett, saw that it was very foggy, andhe ran upon the bridge very slowly, but unfortunately the draw was swung open to allow a vessel to pass. [he engineer and fireman succeeded in jumping of the engine in time to save [their lives, The en- gine, N 3, plunged off the end of the bridge Into the water, dragging three cars, laden with mer- shandise, into the Passaic River after it. The loss to the Erie Railway Company is very heavy. Be- sides it will take some time to hoist the engine and the broken cars up out of the river. As there is adouble track at this point on the road it will not interfere with the traffic, INDIAN ROBBERS IN MINNESOTA, CHICAGO, Ill., May 18, 1872, On acconnt of repeated robberies and murders in the vicinity of Oak Lake and other frontier settle- ments of Minnesota by prowling bands of In- dians, Governor Austin has caused arms to be distributed among the white inhabiiants. It is now believed that the murderers of the Cooke family were Pillager Indians, a bunch of skins left at Cooke's ‘by a trapper named Franks having been oifered for sale by them at a railroad station, CENTRAL PARK METEOROLOGICAL DEPART. MENT. Abstract of report for the week ending at two P. M., May 18, 187%<-Barometer—Mean, 29.989 inches; ian Ma wet Sauer hes ap Gurina the week, 649 miles, ss | highway with, ‘THE WOODCHOPPER OF CHAPPAQUA Farmer Greeley Taking His Weekly Recreation. a ee A SCENE ON THE CARS. plea ees | Settlement of the Disputed Questions, members was in favor of returning to the original | Does He Swear and Can He Farm? we a The Sylvan Retreat at Chappaqua as a Paying Investment, THE SAGE UP A TREE. Mr. Greeloy, accompanied by Mr. Alvin J. John- son, Mr, Birdsall, Mr, Thompson, a correspondent of a Western paper, and the representative of the HERALD, took his way to Chappaqua on the twenty- five minutes past eight Harlem train yesterday morning, with the intention of laving his soul once more in the invigorating and soothing joys of wood-chopping. NOT A BROTHER-IN-LAW. Itisdue to Mr. Alvin J. Johnson at the outset that reparation should be made in order to set him right before @ somewhat evil-minded public. Nearly all the newspapers have mentioned him as a brother-in-law of Mr. Greeley, but both he and Mr. Greeley disclaim that somewhat unsavory relationship. Mr. Johnson is merely an old friend of many years standing, who, out of regard for Mr. Greeley personally, insists upon the philosopher making his house his home, NOT AN OFFICE-SEEKER, ‘T don't want an office, and don’t expect one, and wouldn't take one,” says Mr, Johnson on this subject, “and I believe, as the HERALD says this morning, that brothers-in-law are forever debarred from ofice holding under the Greeley administra- tion, yet I must persist in it for his sake rather than my own, that lam not a brother-in-law.” THE TRIP UP. ‘The usual groups of eager spectators at the depot. and on the train craned their necks and distended their eyes to get a view of the great Sage. Two baggage smashers, with truck loads of trunks, dropped their trucks to give and receive the in- formation that there was old Horace. He took a seat in tho rear car, which comfortably filled, and was soon immersed deeply in the morning papers, He studied the HERALD most deeply, and seemed disappointed that it had no editorial comment upon him or upon the general Presidential question, He took no part in the conversation that the other gentlemen of the party carried on, He continued immersed in his papers, not even lowering them from before his eyes while the cars were lumbering through the long, dark tunnel. A FIENDISH PLOT. Presently the train boy came along with prize He flung a package tnto Mr. Greeley’s lap. The philosopher made no movement. Then the boy came around and collected his packages again. By this time the sage had finished the HERALD and had resorted to the city newspaper that most bitterly opposes him. He read the editorial invective with a calm, unrufled brow. The passen- gers in the car looked anxiously to see if he was nettled. There was not a sign of it. Then, when he had commenced on the most conspicuous democratic sheet which opposes him, public expectation rose. He would show his vexa- tion now, surely. Nota sign of it. His brow was as calm and unrated and his face as placid as ever, Then the train boy, unceasing In his tor- turing experiments, brought along a bundle of weekly pictorials, in one of which were two or | three outrageous caricatures of the Philosopher, and one of these he tossed into Mr. Greeley’s lap. The Sage took it up mechanically and glanced at the caricatures. The passengers were now In a ferment. The good man would certainly rip out an oath. Not so, however, He looked blankly at the pictures of himself for a moment and turned the paper over to Mr. Johnson without a comment. The boy came again and took the periodicals up, There was a wily look of MISCHIEF in the youngster’s eye. He glanced at the passen- gers as much as to say, “I'll bring a swear” out of him next time, On his very next round he carried a bundle of pamphlets, entitled the “Comic Life of Horace ta a most stupid and witless produe- tion, liberally illustrated with the most aggravating caricatures of the great sage. He threw one of them into the philosopher's lap with a flop, and, to make assurance doubly sure, popped one into the hands of each member of the party. The first. picture, if picture it can be called, on the outer page of this Peon EHRs is a view of the lusty patri- arch being helped over the White House wall by a pitchfork, and inside isa scene representing him on the nag “Protection,” racing for the White House against Victoria Woodhuil on her steed “Free Love The fiend of a train-boy dropped this bombshell into the party and cheerily continued his round, The passengers were IN WILD EXCITEMENT, They clung to their seats as if the atmosphere of the ear was about to become phosphoric with the anger of the great man. They hurridly threw up their windows to allow the startled air free vent. Ladies put their fingers in their ears to deaden the shock of the report. The philosopher gazed at this hideous pamphiet long y, as If sorrowing that humanity could have reached’ such a depth of ce and looked solemniy at the door through which the fiendish trainboy had disappeared and laying the pampulet aside, silently turned again to his ne ; ABOUT § A general murmur of relief ran among the pas- sengers. A quiet calm settled upon them, “f guess it's all a lie about his swearing so much,” sald one, “It would seem 80, HONORS A! At White Plains one or and spoke to him. all the way stations the old farmers buying their newspapers of the train boy inquired complacently if old Horace was on board, At Chappaqua all the | old farmers in the vicinity were present on horse- back or in their vehicles, and all the village beaus and in their most Dolly Vardenish attire, thronges he platform to see him again for the hundredth time. The old farmers would drive up toward him when he debarked and say, “How are you, Horace ?” and belles would “There he is now.” ing in Chappaqua, MACGREGOR ON ILS NATIVE HEATH. Clear of his friendly neighbors, the philosopher, followed by his own little party, strode directly for the farm. He stopped for a moment to expatiate on the meanness of some one in the town who had taken dirt from his black marshes to fill up the He extolled his house by the road- side as one of the best in the town. He described the system of drainage by which he had reclaimed some eight or ten acres of wet lands, where, when he bought it, the cows used to get mired. It is now @ fine Held, rich in clover. THR NUMEROUS SPRINGS bubbling up on the edge of his woody hill had | formerly inandated the lowlands so as ‘to render | this land little better than a frogpond. The water | coursing from these ppringe he has imprisoned in tiled drains, sunk two feet underground and lead- ing clean underneath the fleld to the great brook at the roadside, where they mingle their waters and seek the Neperhan, thence the Hudson, thence the s¢ Above these springs and overlooking the marsh meadows is his new house, as yet unfinished, The road here forking leads one way to the stone barn and another to the house in the woods and beyond to the wooded knoll where the eae er is at present engaged thinning out his trees, Twent: ba from the house is the peer- less spring, bubbling forth as clear as crystal at the side of a deep, rocky dell, through which dashes a Te brook. “The first thing when we get here.” said the philosopher, “‘is for all hands to take a drink.” A THIRSTY SOUL ASTONISHED. And he led the way down the twenty-nine steps to the edge of the spring, where a china cup and @ glass tumbler awaited his service. He passed the sparkling beve: around, and tothe thirsty throats, parched with the dust of the trains, it was like nectar. The Western man seemed especially charmed. He took a sip and smacked his lips and then took & tong. Graught, and rolled it around i topgee, Oks asting Its proof, and then, with the air of 01 had been all his life laboring ander s mistake, ia s— “Ab—and that's water, is It 1” THE SYLVAN RETRRAT. There was no time at A) patiosopts ih nd Bee to show off the farm to until he yelled hie mind of aching en Ny fell- said another. NG THE ROUTE. two gentlemen came in @ fow trees and @ more, On the platiorm of the depot at | t | these implements at hand betook himse!f to a pom tion of the wooded knoll and there set to work, SCIENTIFIO WOODCHOPPING. He threw oif his black dress coat and lay bis bran new hat and bundle of letters and papers down in a heap among the leaves, and. with his gold spec. tacles aeross his nose, attacked a huge hemlock with the vigor of a Hercules, Mr, Johnson, with the strength of a giant, atiacked it the other side, and in tea minutes the giant tottered and fell. Then Mr. Grecley went fora sapling that was, ac- cording to his agricultural mind, impeding the growth of a younger and more valuable piece of timber near it, He whacked away at this diminue tive adversary and soon lad him floored, A MAN UP A TRE vider and Then he got ¢ hemloek, and with a short-handled a away its low limbs. wen he moved wdder and trimmed another tree, Then he took umbrage at the growth of a small chestnut, and with vigorous action cut it down. By this time his velvet vest had scrambled up out of reach of his pants, and his cravat had worked its way over his collar and turned itself wrong side foremost about his throat, but not a pearly drop of perspiration stood upon his brow, nor a red sign of biister th ened his hands, The latter were encased in woollen gloves. LEARNING AGRICULTURAL JOURNALISM 4 The two jou nselves and determined th 8 thing. They shouldered A an 4 unitedly attacked an innocent little chestnu as thick as your wrist. Journaiist Nad bliste that his arm was dislocated at the shoulder, Then they threw down their axes and with their united strength pushed the little chestnut over. It felk with a thundering the branches off a sured their fallen tree long. e and t, fully In about half an hour ono <U his hands and the other felt vorite hemock. It was twenty- FOREIGN MISS! They proudly reported their success to the cham- pion Woodman of the age. Glanciug sadly at his pecled hemlock, he told them that if he was elected and they wanted a foreign mission he guessed he could give it to them without their exerting them- selves in that way any mor PREPARATIONS FOR POLITICAL, PICNICS. For four hours the es. One or two 4, and held ON. © trimmed and felled his tlemen came up into the ations with him up a tree. ant, of Tarrytown, who is a demo- crat and belongs to a Gre bf which John C. Fremont is preside ; for a grand barbe Chappaqua nominee. Mr. Birdsall, who went out with the party, has a farm across the road from Mr. Greeley’s, 18 also a democrat, and is making arrangements for a grand ratification picnic among the plillosopher's neighbors. Mr, J. R. Stewart, a neighbor, who voluntarily superintends the work- ing of the farm in Mr. Greeley’s absence, has ar- ranged to open the ballon Friday next by a grand neighborly barbecue near Tarrytown, These gen- he philosopher in the woods, all intent on their picnicing, but they did not ac- quaint him with their designs, believing that it was best to surprise him. THE RATIFICATION MEETING, ‘The news in the morning papers that the ratifica- tion of the nomination would take place in Union square on the evening of the 28th seemed to strike these gentlemen as a big thing, and Mr, Greeley. himself said he guessed it would be a big ratitica- tion, MY DOCTOR AND MY DELIGHT, With his foot upon his native heath, the philoso. pher is McGregor indeed. With every flight of chips under the trenchent blows of his axe his spirits rose, and when one chip bigger than another flew off at'a tangent he'd sing out “get out of that,” “come, out with you,” “fly, chips,’? and so nd when on the ladder trimming the bigger eS Would come ling to the ground, some- times brushing the sage’s benevolent face or dis- placing his spectacles, he would cry out “Behave if,” “Down with you.’ “What are you about ¥? and other expressions denoting the ex- hiliration from what he calls his doctor and hig delight—chopping. 3 A DAY'S WORK, His wood chopping finished, at half-past two the philosopher invited ull hands’ to his house in the woods, to a lunch provided by the neighborly at- tention of Mr. isted from his labors reluctan W until four o'clock, and when finally he witndrew he declared there was a duy’s work yet before him, A LUNCH, arofthe spring was again Indulged in all roun he western man taking to it with the ardor ofa new convert. The philosopher washed his hands in the brook, and, entering the house, the whole party sat down to ‘a cold lunch that Was most grateful to their thoroughly appe- tized souls. The two journalists declared that theim severe labors on the chestnut tree had given them an appetite that they had not. feit for many a day, and all hands, thé philosopher inctuded, proved At the house the ni themselves to be as hungry as the sea and almost devoured as much, Cold chicken, cold biscuit, a slice of bologna, chee spol cake, jelly and milk and butter above suspicion comprised the banquet. Dishes and knives and forks and chairs were lacking, because the house has been unoccupied for along time, and the whole banquet was served to THE SEVEN HUNGRY souls who composed the party ona little round table, adopted most suitably to four-hanfied enchre. Those who had no chair, however, stood up, and those who had no kat and forks used their fingers, and the lunch went offin the utmost good humor and to the internal satisfaction of every in- dividual in the party. EXIT BRAN BREAD, The sage, so lately called a bran bread philosopher and vegetarian, most nobly attacked the tall pyrat mid of wheaten biscuit and the high pile of broiled chicken, and did not disdain e a@ taste of the sponge Cake and bologna. As for the milk and the butter, it had no rest from the beginning to the end of the feast. The universal opinion of every city man, given as a sort of lame excuse for taking the third glass of milk and putting butter on his cake, was that it was so pleasant to have MILK AND BUTTER ‘That you could put confidence in. The philosopher did not take to milk so freely as the rest, how- ever. He had his tin cup of spring water at his plate,fand seemed to prefer it in its original purity, unadulterated either by milk of the cow or juice of the cora. ‘The conversation turned mainly upon neighborly affairs at the table, Politics did not seem to interest anybody of all the philoso- pher. If any farming subject was mentioned he was interested at once, but everything more likely to lead to complications was tacitly taboe WHAT HE KNOWS ABOUT EUCHRE After lunch a guine of euchve was poposed, but the cards were wanting. The sage, it seems, is an adept at euchre. “T like the me,” said he, “because you needn't bother your brains about it.” A WALK OVER THE FARM for the benefit of the journalists was in order after the meal. ome, gentlemen,” said* Mr, Greeley, “I want to show you WHAT T KNOW ALOUT FARMING The party tramped over the farm to the onion pate tsi mcadows, to the out let of the to the orchards (the mos profitable orchard ‘in the county of Westchester,” said the suge,), t0 the stone barn, in the upper story of Which every labor-saving machine yet patented is ready for use, to the stalls of the riding horses of his wife and daughters; to the cow twenty-two years old which he won't kill and which won't die, and to the copse of evergreens which forn. a cool, sequestered arbor, sheltering his gar- den from the northwest wind, Ail these GLORIES OF HIS PARSING the bucolic candidate showed to his visitors, expa- ting with ardor on their beauty and worth, and contending that whatever might be said about it in sport his farm was conducted on the best prin- ciples, because on the scientific basis brought about by hundreds of years’ experience and wisdom; and, moreover, not only as a refage from his political friends and as @ pleasant resting and recuperating place for himself, but also, AS A FINANCIAL INVESTMENT, The old farinersin the party agreed with it paid. hi jaid Mr. Johnson—“I bave been a farmer all my life, and Know all the details of New England farm- ing, from raising beans up, and [teil you, Mr. Greeley is the clearcst headed farmer I know.” Which, itis to be hoped, settles forever the long Mooted question as to whether Greeley knows any- thing about farming or not. CALF PORTRY. REPORTER—Mr. Gree! did me ever write poetry? THE PuUsLosorHER—Well, wrote calf poetry when I was young, a8 I fuppose every youth does. I don't think Lever published much of it, though. ‘There was only one piece that I remember to have published. It was on the death of William Wirt, written when L was about twenty-two or twenty- three, T published it in the first number of my vera Tne New Yorker, and, I gueas, it was pretty calfish, ‘The following are the lines, as they appeared in The New Yorker: ine THE gia or enn WIRT. “Rouse not the mufffied deum Wake not the martial truinpet's mourntul sound, For hlin whose inighty voica in, death 1s duuny Who, Jn the zenith of his high renown, To the grave went down. Tnyoke no cannon's breath ‘To awell the Fequiem ver sashes ponred— y be the house of death ; eee pe tcarts by. whorn he was adored, ‘He won not with the sword. No! let aifliction’s tear Bo the tole tribute to his memory paid, Earth has no monument sojastly dear To souls like his in purity arraye Never to fade. t Chief! L loved th i thy banner pure; Tpattled proudly ‘neath thy Mae eee, re Mine is the breast of woe—t ; iiders on unmindful of & cu vee Proud to endure, ain the volce of wail efor this dimn vale of sorrow fled — nagic shall not fail mids thy barrow bed o dead. have spurned the clod, RETURN TO THE CITY. The whole party returned to clty on the o'clock train from Chappaqua the on ik Poet ‘and i her resting his head of his went and to ‘viste eS sleepii weetly all through i the stock cats at Twenty-seven: Annie Dickinson, rent to Mr. SAouAraa kat : id wi hour. "a