The New York Herald Newspaper, May 17, 1872, Page 3

"FIPS" RETREATY? Excitement at the Capital Over the Supplemental Article. ae Boutwell and the Moneyed Interests at Work for Ratification. Patriotism and the Fisheries | Against It. The Foreign Relations Commit- | tee Not Agreed. Position of the Parties in the Senate on the Question. + VIEWS OF THE LEADING MEMBERS. Those Who Will Combine to Defeat It. THE TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY DOUBTFUL. gee indefatigable Working of the Ad- ministration. ’ WASHINGTON, May 16, 1872. * Notwittetanding the excited condition of the political‘sftuation the absorbing topic of‘conserva- lon to-day in the Capitol, the hotels and the depart- ments was the correspondence between reat Britain and the United States, which resulted in ‘the “retreaty,” as it is now called, and which is ‘pending before the Senate. ( PUBLIC AS WELL AS OFFICIAL. SENTIMENT ‘ist stronger to-day than fl was yesterday iu the be- JMef that Mr. Fish has committed the government ‘Poy his inexcusable biuudering to a position from ‘which it can only be rescued by the efforts of un- yeelfish and unpartisan statesmen, Attention Is therefore directed towards the Senate, and the most earnest inquiries are made regarding the opinions of members of that body. THE VOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE | born and Gilbert. Carpenter‘aad Gilbert, earmest bellevers in the in-,| lated as an American on the great triumph his fallibiitty of the administration, may yet be Induced | COURtrY Rad gained In diplomacy. The treaty was, 4 REW YORK HERALD, FRIDAY, MAY 17, 1872—TRIPLE SHEET. WUE, TH rebelt OF bis Sonversation with Mr. Cas- serly was a frm comviction on his part that while the matter might not be made a strict party ques- fion, a sufficient opposition would be provoked by the public efforts of the administration to array NBARLY ALL THE DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS AGAINST IT. Mr, Schurz does not hesitate to say that he is opposed to it for patriotic reasons, and is of the opinion that the vote will be very close. Mr. Pat- terson, of New Hampshire, like Mr. Osborn, of Florida, and others who are opposed to it, is also very free in his DECLARATIONS AGAINST THE SURRENDER. Mr. Ddmunds, who has been reported against rati- fleation, is cautiously reticent, a fact which gives | rise to the suspicion that his well known partisanship | may finally induce him to come out frankly in its support, His record is to the contrary, but the appeals of Mr. Fish to save the treaty, and thereby save the adminietration, will have great weight with him, “Ihave not yet considered the matter with suMicient carefulnese to make public any opinion regarding the subject,” was the expression used by him to-day in reply to @ question regarding his status in the premises. It ig safe to put him “on the fence." Mr. Sumner is flat-footed and unusu- ally biunt in hie determined opposition to the measure, He denounces it as A TRADE BETWEEN FISH AND GLADSTONE to eave Gladstone and Grant. He characterizes it ae the result of the consultations of a mutual ad- miration society, which held ite communications by cable at the expense of the two governments. He thinks the Jounnie, Johnnie, tlekle me, do; You tickle me, and Pi tickle you | - principle is apparent at every step of tne negotia- tion since the telegraphie correspaadence ‘com- menced. Messrs. Tharman, Bayard, Vickers, and | Hamilton, of Maryland, are the only democrate | who are SUSPECTED OF FAVORING THE TREATY, and it would be an act of injustice to each one of them to say that they have reached @ final con- clusion in the matter, Messrs, Vickers and Hamil- ton, however, are amenable to the influences brought to bear today »y Reverdy Johneon, while Mr. Bayard js under similar infuences, urged through the Baltimore delegation. Mr. ‘Thurman never has been @ very car- mest believer in indirect damages, and is ‘mderstood to have made a speech against them. ‘Of those who have seats on the republican eide of | the Senate, and who are believed to be ready to | join the opposition, the following 1s mot a complete, | but, #0 far as it goes, a correct, Itet:—Messrs. Pat- terson, of New Hampshire; Logan, Sumner, Ferry, of Connecticut; Schurz, Chandler, Carpenter, Os- Of course Messrs. Chandler, tosapportit. The wildest ‘conjectures are made as to the result, and innumerable polls of the Senate have been made, the majority of which show that the required TWO-MHIRDS’ VOTE WILL “NOT BE FORTHCOMING. Even the friends of the measure are in doubt ‘ond admit the result will be close. ‘In fhe House the feeling is most overwhelmingly against ratification, but the admtaistration mem- bere have lately toned down their denunciations. General Butler, however, declares that nothing woeld delight him -more tham the defeat -of the — proposition, He mees his = well- bas not yet reported, and probably-will not reper, | ‘kBown arguments against the-old treaty, amd rays dor several days, for the reason that the members ‘of the committee were as much at sea at thelr ses- sion this morning as they were when the matter ‘Was first referred to them. They have now held four meetings‘fer the consideration of the subject, and as yet NO MOTION OR PROPOSITION TO \RATIFY the treaty bes been submitted or entertained. Ofcourse the matter has been talkem of at each fession, but it was treated as a dernies ressore, and the attention of each member has béen eccapied with a desire to devise some--other method, by ghich to extricate the government from the footie and = disgracefal dilemma in hich it now finds itself, The efforts $n this direction have mot dev eloped any fcheme of sufficient perfection to sanction the belief that any other plan will be reached. ence it 4s accepted as a foregone co: acluston that eventually the question will be dire: stly pat wpen the ratification or rejection of the 6 mplementery ‘treaty. At this juncture it ie safe t > say thatthe committee is UNANIMOUSLY AGAINST 1}, but on being forced to its coneideratio naga last re- sort, Messrs. Cameron, Harlan, Morto: } and Hamiin ‘will constitute @ majority in favor 0 { ratification, while Mesers, Schurz, Patterson, of New Hamp- Bhire, and Casserly will submit a mi nority report inst ratification, The ifuences | operating to Serre ratification are diverse arid powerfal. ‘irst is the desire of the administrati on, prompted yy Secretary Fish’s vanity, to save the diskenored treaty from the treatment it deserves 5 second are the commercial interests of the coun try absorbed tn speculations which ' REQUIRE THE AID OF POREIGN LOANS, and which are overwhelmed with grief at the-pros- pect which national honor demands of @ wuspen- pion, temporary or otherwise, of existing business relations between the two countries; third is the Northwestern trading interest, which expects to derive advantage from the PREE NAVIGATION OF TIE ST. LAWRENCE, and consequent ability to import geods with cheap transportation direct from Europe; fourth, the iusurance companies and the immense numbers of persons who are ,in- terested in the payment of. the clase of claims known as ‘direct claims; and last, bat not deast, the Seoretary of the ‘Treasury, with the colossal patronage of the department at his back, who is interested in the success of his efforts to Place the public LOAN IN FUROPEAN MONRY MARKETS, Indications of the presence of all these interests gre constuntly felt in and about the Capitol, and in all placea where the subject ts discussed. Northern Pacific Railroad men, stockjobbers, claim agente, bankers, lawyers. who have claims pending before ‘the Mixed Commission, stock and bond holders in {ail the mammoth.corporations, the value of whose _Property depends on future foreign.aid, and . ‘THE BRITISH LEGATION ITSELF, INDIRECTLY, form a gigamtic combination in sapport of the Spending proposition. It 1s safe to sgy that the ad- Imtnistration is not hesitating to ue ite every exer- tion to bring these influcnces into effective commu- aiication with membors of the Senate. Opposed to this overshadowing strength are simply the fishing ‘interests of New England, the ship builders and Jocal leaders on the lakes, and the belief that NATIONAL HONOR, DIGNITY AND SELF-RESPRCT demsnud a@ rejection of the new article. Mevsrs, Camexon, Harlan, Mciton and Hamlin, the majority of the committee, whieh, it is supposed, will even- ygually be tn favor of ratification, are well known as a#arnest partisans. Mr. Hamlin Is, in fact, the only ne who has any reason to vote against it He would possibly do 80 for the sake of his beloved fishing friends, if At were not for the fact of free navigation of the St. Lawrence, and the further fact that he has never heen.a firm believer in the righteousness of our in- direct damage claims. Camerou, with his railroad enterprives; Harlan, with hia pecullar characteris- ‘ties, and Morton, with his intense biindmess in ad- ‘Vocating the.fictates of the Cabinet, are positively Aertain in the end toy 5 SUCOUMB TATHE BRITISH ZOD, Ht makes no aiverencd how reluctant they may Appear to bo just. now, and they all say publicly that they have not pot mage up their minds about the matter, their fuiare conmsse is virtually decided. Mesere. Schurz, Patterson, of New Hampshire, and Onsseriy, of the minority, haveeach made records which will induce them, for comnistency'’s sake, to stand up for national honor, even if by 40 doing the treaty falls, No wne pretends to believe that war will follow tyint failure, and the only results thet can possibly: ensue are thone alluded to above. Mr. Reverdy Johnson, who $788 here to-day nt the head of a delegation fom the t BALTIMORE POARD OF TRADP, nrging speedy ratifvation, waa forced to admit this fact. He made but little headway with hia democratic friends, it any, and none at all with Mr, Parpenter, with whow ve had a prolonged inter- ‘that if its falure could be aceomplished by a rejec- tion of the amendment the result would juatity ‘the means. General Banks is non-committal ; dut it ts well known ‘that; with the republicans whoare ‘opposed to itamd the democrats, there is a majority of the Foreign Affaire Committee of the House against it, bat. unfortunately they have ao voice in the matter, | FEELING THE PUBLIC PULSE. The Chamber of, Commerce Petitions for a “‘®ap- plementel Article" —Capital in » Quandary— Views of Royal Phelps, Levi P. Morton, Cyrus‘ W. Field, Augustus Maverick, Sinclair Tousey- and Others ‘on = the =» Situation, ‘Nearly ¢ieven years ago the people of thie city were dlacugsing. aa they waro yooterdey wimost universally, the all-absorbing. question, ‘“‘Has.our government committed such a terrible biunder that we will be compelied to go to war 1” There are such vast and tremendous interests involved in a question like the foregoing that the pubiic at present are halting between two fres— bloodshed and dishonor. The moneyed men, who, in any national crisis, are not.to be depended upon, are at present very undecided as to what to say, or what to do. There ts an: indecision in their action and speech that ie lamentablo. Neverthe- less, English Alabamas, if a war were to occur to-morrow between tho United States and any other Power beside Great Britaim, would burn and destroy the vessels of our South. street merchants as merrily as ever. The general impression just now, in the words of the poet ‘Whittier, fe that “England has a great many iron-clads, she is strong at sea, rich at home, . plucky in her manhood, and as stubborn in perti- nacity as Old Nicholas himself.” Our citizens Just now do not feel disposed to go into a war that would cost hundreds of militons of dollars and.cause, perhaps, the destruction of the majority of our finest seaporte; but there is a Bavage feeling growing day by day against tho present administration, and particularly against Mr. Hamilton Fish, that bodes no good t the persona againet whom the feeling isaroused. Hour by hour the people are.learning how they have been tricked by sham diplomacy of the State Department, and now they have.been hoodwinked and led to believe that the great American nation were ahont to tri- umph in the closet, as they have done on the field of battle and on the decks of their tron-clada, and all at once—like @ thunderclap, and by the instru- mentality of the HeRaLp—daylight is let into this bogus diplomacy, and behold there is nothing but shame and mortification on all.sides. A nation sel- dom forgives snch failings and -blunders as these, and all concerned will no doubt be held to a strict accountability for this last offence against the na- tion’s honor, There is at present a most excited state of feeling im the public mind, and it 8 growing day by day, Meanwhile the Senate of the United States 1 wasting the precious houre that may never come back again, and the public of every class await the moment when this matter shall be sattied a.d the British Vion shall be shut up in his cage wiih his tail between his ponderous plum pudding jegs. The HERALD to-day prints a curious document, signed by anuamber of the members of the Chamber of Commerce, together with the views of prominent merchants and citizens at large, including the Jlaneurs of the clubs and the loungers at the hotels. | The Petition of the Chamber of Com- merece. To THE HONORABLE THE SENATE OF THz UNITED Sates, Watainaton, D. 0, :— The undersigned, citizens of New York, while they would not urge anything which the govern- ment of the United States cannot honorably accept, desire to express thelr profound conviction, irre- spective of party, that the present interests and de aeet welfare of the country demand an addi- ional article to the Treaty of Washington which will prevent both the government of Great Britain and of the United slates from presenting any claims for consequential d ch might ariso when one is a beliigerent the other a neutral, Paeipa, Dodge & 00; ED. & ie. ee . 5 E. D, Morgan & Co. ; Morton, Bilas &'Co.; Maitland, Pheips & Co.;’ Barlow, Laroeque & Macfarland ; dohn J. Cisco & fon} Brown Brothers & Co.; Babcock Brothers & o.; Ogrus W. Field; Spovord Brothers & o,; Ferdinand Lawrence; J. & W, Seligman; Toblaa Windmilller; Jay Cooke & Co.; Charles But: ler; Winslow & Wilson George H. Ailstare; Budge, Behid & Co.; J. J. Stewart .; Eliot T, Shep- ard; W. H. Pogg & Co.; Joseph U. Orvis; J. 8, Ken- nedy & Co.; George Opdyke; John Mnnroe & Co; | Drexel, Morgan & Co. ; George A. Oggoed Franklin ‘ no Capron & Co.; ). P. Morgan: Fel- lowes & Co.; John Bloodg Co.; Howland & Aspinwall; John B, Trevor; Nichol! Stone & Co. Kenyon ‘ox; Closson & Haya; Hallgarten & (e,; Wiliam T. Blodgett; Knauth, od & Kibne; Scott, Strong & Co,; Clark, Dodge & Oo.; Winslow, | petty | com subject of general diecussion pmorg our t — Peake, Opdycke & Co.; Tefft, Griswold & Kellogg; | M. K. Jesup & Co. Among the Merchants, VIEWS OF ROYAL PHELPS. Mr. Royal Phelps thought there could be but one opinion entertained by intelligent men in re- gard to the treaty dimeculty at present agitating the country. There was a frightful mistake in the matter from beginning to end. The honor and dig- | nity of a great nation were at stake, and in the | hands of men who could not suMiciently reaiize the | magnitude and importance of their position or ably full its duties. The friendly and commercial relations of two great peoples had been hazarded | by thoughtless politicians, who knew nothing of | the tendency of their action and had no idea | of the weight of interests of every nature involves. | ‘This country was no longer untrammelied in its | independence. Its bonds in the hands of British capitalists placed it in the position of @ bro” | ker on the street against whom are held | the papers of a “call loan,’ When thg creditor calla the debto¥ inust pay de “burst.” Before the war, when we owed no debts to foreign | creditors, we were in an independent condition, but | now unadyised and hasty action may produce @ panic that will send three thousand millions of securities here for settlement. It is claimed by those who had the treaty in charge that they never intended to press the ciaims for consequential damages—that they were jokingly added—only in- werted as a makeweight, to be at any time with drawn. The same spirit actuated the claim, in that case, that leads a barber to say, “Give me what you please,” expecting to obtain more than he deserves. It is too bad that we, a great nation, were represented im the conduct of this affair by men who could not rise above the practices of & cormer groggery. Theso Western polititians cannot properly appreciate thia matter, They are accustomed tq work for politcal effect, more or less regardless of meats, and do not Know anything of the immense interests of the country that hang upon the issue, and which can only be safely conducted in an hon- orable and straightforward manner. Here are the vast interefits of the rallwayg being built to open ‘up our in@ustries, and whoge bonds are lying upon the market waiting for foretgn takers. Oh, sir, it 1g a great mistake! It ie like the oppressive and un- popular income tax, which the government has three times given notice would be removed, and which it ts now intimated ts tode continued. Mr. Fish approached this matter of the Alabama clalyas asa gentleman, but it has now been most we tchedly and depioyvably mismanaged. Q GYRUS W. FIELD'S OPINION, « Mr. Cyrus W. Fietd regretted wor much the en- ‘Yanglement of the treaty. He said that daring last Foo he travelled much throughout Great Britain and jhe Contivent, amd‘on every hand he was congratu- in fact, considered the greatest Spite triumph of the age. England was peacefully humbled be- fore the majesty of agreat principle, asserted by a merous and pewerfalpeople. Now all this would e changed. He hoped that some way would be found to save the treaty. Perhaps the supplemen- tary article would be, after all, more beneficial in | dus @ffect than the payment of consequential dam- ba With a sea coast extending from'New Brung- ‘wiok to Mextco, and ‘on the Pacifle frem California (With the exception of a atrip ‘of British | Calembia) to the Norih Pole, there would be danger to us im the agsertion and establishment of the principle of consequential damages. In case of a War between foreign Powers, the adventurous and enterprising spirit ofour people would lead them to fit outexpeditions beyond the watchfulness of our govermment to prevent, which would not im- probabiy ‘subject us to greater loss by the same Yuling. Mr. Field thougut that in case the treat) ‘was broken up there would be no war, and thoug! he comld suggest no remedy for the aifficnity other than the agreement upon the eupplementary arti- cle, he theught the predicament a pitiful one, and i that rome arrangement would be made by wi the negotiation would lead to the results an- ticipated fromthe arbitrament. EX-GOVERNOK MORGAN'S POSITION. Ex-Governor E. D. potmen had : publicly com- mitted himself'by attaching his tirm’s name to the memorial to ex, Prepared by Mr. Morton and presented for atures at the Chamber of Com- Meree on Wedncaday. For this reason he could make no farther staternent. He had retired from public life, and did not, feei cailed upon under the circumstances to exprege his opinion more fully. MR. MORTON (DN THR SITUATION. Mr. L. P. Morton, it i: understood, prepared the memorial to Congress urging the adoption of the “backing down’ supplementary article. He thought it was a great mistake to agitate the sub- ject adversely. In a solely «political int of view, if the traty fal it would be charged to the denocracy. He had per- £01 more than ffwo years ago, while 4n London, worked to bring about the parliamentary action which led to the treaty. He had talked of the matter to President Graut at a time when the aa his-guest : nh aWicem oc.00 St ewes: cami e mpon matter with sir John Rone, who ‘wae influential with Bort Granville’s Ministry. Ite wanied the matter <e- finitely settled by the Co mmisstoners of Arbitration in the interests of the coramercial and finaactal relations of the two coun tries, All the genticmen ab we referrefi io, with the exception of ex-Governor Mergan, -seemed to con- clude that ifthe matter w R* not Apecdily adjusted it would prove disas'trous to the adminis- tration and the intere sts of Preetdent Grant in the campaign. Mr‘ Field claimed that if in England a Mirustry was found to endorse the consequential. damage clause, that in- stant a vote of want of (sanfdenceiu the govern- ment would be moved ‘ind the administration would cease to. exist be! ere night, and whatever the opinions expressed by txe merchants of the city 3 esterday were, a want o¥ their confidence in Mr. ish’ iniatration wae, felt evident and tan- gible. MR. MAVERICK HOLDS FORTH. Mr. Augastus ‘Maverick, ofthe firm.of Mever -k, Stephan * Co., No. 164 Fulton street, was next visit- ed. This house represents & very large interest in importiag \ithographere’ goods from Delgiom,France and Germany, and is one of the largest of ita kind in the country, empioying a great number of hands. Mr. Maverick is Ca pecdstig shade. of politics; but he was quite decides in his view gn the Ala- bama queetien. Mr. Maverick i¢.4:young man and is full of business, but he bad a few minutes to spar when the HERALD peporter called. He. said :—« sustain the HenaLp Jin overythtug it has gaid in re gard to the Alabama treaty. If the United States governmest water General Grant had hal{as much manliness and enterprise as the HERALD in its Livingstone search Fish could never have been over- ) reached by Kari Granvit Granville, in faet, 1s the teacher in thls business and Fish is the schoolboy, That Fish te like Jonah, he onght to be thrown overboard and it might still the storm so suddenly raiwed between the two countries, It is abselute— we surrendler—and disgraceful in ail ite bearings. Oh, for one hour of Andrew Jac nm. Don't yeu think he would make the British Lion yelp, ‘eh? There i# only one thing to -do, and that ds for the Senate of the United States—and if they are Amert | «ane they will do it—let them kick the treaty, suppie- qmen‘e@l article and al!, out of the Senate chamber, and-who will suffer by-it ? Why, the Englishmen, of | epuree. Then we lave our privateers ali right.” As the HERALD reporter wae about to leave Mr. Maverion asked :—“By the way, bow did your boys get that treaty ? Oh’ suppose you would'’nt eay, Of course wot’? MR. SINCLAIR TOUBPY TALKS, Thia ‘well known radical was found at his place of business, the American News Campany, in Naseau atrect. ‘hen the Heap reporter waited on him aud informed him that he wae to be interviewed he laughed and said that the HeRaLp was a great inet{- tution aud that interviewing was its specialty. “So you want me to talk, do you?’ Mr. Tonsey pleas- antly remarked; “well, I thougit Ihad said every- thing I conid egy at the Chamber of Commerce yes- rterday. I will say, however, that there is an op- portunity for uew retrieve our mistake—that in, if | we have made @ mistake, in this treaty, by advo- cating the passage of tho supplemental ‘article. 1 | £m not one of thove who believe thet we should go | for our country right or wrong. If our couatry is wrong, I say let us right her. I do not care for the | roaring of the Britiek lion or the screaming of the | American eagle either. Let the old lion lash its | tali and how! as ond as le likes; that does not dis- | pose me or hurt my digestion. 1 do believe, however, that if Mr. Greeley waa at the head or affairs there would not be such a muddle as exists just now in the diplomatic and friendiy relations of the two countries. He ie not ike @ man i a race boat, io be looking one way and pniling and | Steering two different ways ad I will venture to | assert, irom what ! hear of the man—and I think f may col! myseif an intimate friend of his—that I am certain that when he is Preeti? of the Unitea States there will be no decetving tl tidcation in diplomacy, excepting strict necessity for {t, and Lam su be able to lesrn every day from 18 frankness itself in all Nis dea sary for them to know of the workings of ernment, And Jam sure tliat (us administr: be the most enlendid one we have ever country. 1 am also ag sure of lds ge. Lo of the Crops this year. Among the Feople ‘The surrender of our case in the / f 80 thoroughly exposed by the HERALD he correspondenc mitted to Congress by the Pr: to be very secretly secured tr Pubilc mort interested in its fon will | the streets, the hotels and ‘he ciw’ Among the transient ocenpants of there aeemed to be bat one op thing was the worst backdown of « Fish had sacrificed (he honor of te « ,anier & Co,; Henry 4 % Co.; Grinnell, Min: torn . Clafin & Co.; 8. H, Chittenden & Co, & CO. ; had ; Bliridre, Dunham & Co,; B. 8, Japyay & Co.: | fag was sullied, ruckied diagracetally to the oid smemy. ¢ Wo were Iu abad 9 ene | and never expe people, nomvs. | ag he gov. | a a n this 10 and our only way out of it was by throwing Fish overboard, withdrawing the treaty and telling Eng- Jand she might arbitrate till the cows come home, but she'd have to include the consequential damages, At the St, Nicholas and Fifth Avenue Hotels, where Western people flock most, a number of Western men—well-to-do landholders or merchants in the prairie sections—levelled some siedge-hammer logic at the reporter on his broaching the question. | “Now, you fellows on the seaboard,” said one of them, “are devilish afeard your cities’li be bom- barded ef thar’s war, and your Chamber o’ Com- merce men, I reckon, are devilish afeard their prop- erty ‘ll depreciate. Now, can tell you | one thing, Pngland ain't a going to | war with us ef we keep a ati upper | lip, but she'll go at it quick enough ef we show the white feather, Jest let us tremble a little in the | knees and she'll knock us down ‘fore we | know it. England aint more’n a third rate Power anyhow, and she'll find it out if she its into =a war) swith = anybody but is. Our navy couldn't ever stand against hers, She's only a little chalk clid, I know; but she's got a avy bigger than herself. If we had more snips we'd find England more willing to arbi- trate. As it te, we'd better quit spending money on long cable despatches between Schenck and And spend more on building tron-clads,”” You don’t think there ‘Ube ahy war’ 'o; not if we don’t lose all our self-respect and | knuckle down to Engiaud too much.” “You think the supplemental treaty 18 too much ofa cononedion tr “Of course. What's the nee of conceding? What do we want a treaty for, anyhow? Just to tle DR our privateers when banat ete Into a war witl domebody. The best thing for us to do is just to say, ‘All right, England, your Alapama siness wag on the square. We fofgive you, and we'll go and do likewise when circumetances permit.’ AK for two Western men, like Grant and Schenck, fd- dling for these British dancers, Tcan’t understand ut for Fish, why he's a decayed vegetable, | anyhow.” ee as for President Grant’s chances in the elec- ion }" “Oh, he can’t help them now. He’s already gong and done it." At THE CLUBS. At the Manhattan, where the democratic wealth | of the city takes {ts aristocratic leisure, the general ‘Qpinion seemed to be that General Grant had irre- vocably destroyed his chances of re-election, but that it'wae a very desirable thing to establish the principle of arbitration, and @ failure now would be | highly disastrous to the peace prospects of the | world in general. As it stood, General Grant iad lost every vestige of a show for re-election, and the race, according to a young kit-gloved member, would be entirely between the Baltimore nominee ‘end Mr. Greeley. “Do you think there’ll be a separate Balumore nomination *” KIp-GLOVED MEMBER (languidly)—Aw shouldn’s wonder. At the Blossom, where the oli mew of Tammany most do congregate, the opinion was expressed in one unanimous verdict :— “Grant has played the deuce with the country’s honor, and the country will play the deuce with him on élection day.” At the Union League an ait of quiet reserve rested upon ail the venerable members present. Some of them “really hadn't given. the subject much thouglit;” others “really preferred not to say;” one or two suggested that ‘the whole thing was a sad mistake, and all of them weighed their words as if fue record they were called upon to make might tell against Wem indtvidually tu some fature Presidential election. VOICE OF ‘THE PRESS. eee ¥Fyrenk Denuncistion of the Supplementary Arti- cle to the Washington Treaty. {From the New York World, May 16.) This proposal of Greet Britain, it will be seen, is -wregular Kangaroo. The gist ofit is inits tail.” It begins by reciting thet Great Britain has claimed two things in respect to the past; has also declared -# third thing, which will ee her conduct in the fture; and the United States have agreed to act shoreafter on the basis of the third ng; there- fore President Grant will, if the Senate #0 advise, do what he hassatd he would not do, but intimated at other times he would do—which is to “make no claim on the part of the United States tn respect. Of Arbitration at Geneva.” {Prom the New York Tribune, May 16.) We have mo answer for those administration newspapers who pretend to think that the Tribune has taken a partisan attitude in this matter, We | damages could be setat rest'without a formal claim | of indirect losses ag aforesaid before the Tribunal | whose premature strawberry leaves 16 afl dt has | been gathered. e é es We can perfectly understand how patriotic men may welcome even this mode of adjustment A ratify it, in order to put an end to the scandal and | prevent the opening of a new chapter of incapacity | &nd abasement, which 18 sure to occur if these people try their ‘prentice hand again. One of the recent British periodicals has an elaborate histori- cal article, called “Concessions to America,” the aim being to prove that in all antecedent negotia- tions, from Mr. Jay's downward, the United States has got the better of Great Britain and come out with credit. If itbe so we can only say, prover. Dially, itis a long lane which has no turning, and that We have, beyond all peradventure, come to a bien d ugly turn atiast. Old Cowley’s distich comes back to us with terrible emphasis :— We've mourned, we've sighed, we've Wepty | We never blushed berore. [From the Baltimor ette, May 16.) The bold scheme of pa by the Grant Cabi- net has swiftly returned to plague the inventors. Defeated abroad, it oniy hopes by ignominious makeshifte to cover up its abiedey at home, Dis- regarding the plain axiom of Pitt to say nothing | where nothing is meant, it has endangered all by asking too much, Whether its last wretched sub- terfuge will be admitted by the Power it has trifled with, or whether it will forced to recant the whole of ita absurd pretensions and stultify itself before ita people at the most precarious period of its existence, is still uncertain. In the meantime Punch, with his satirical pencil, sketches the pic- ture of the Tichborne clalmant in the Jail of New- gate and refers our gyeq-reaching rulers to it, with jhe gtinging comment that “he who cil what ly not his'n, when he’s caughy is sent to pris'ny,, --~ ~ {Frdin the Scranton Republican, May 18.) This would be virtually acknowle: rf that we ‘on 0. iy had no right to make the claims ential damages in the case arising out, e rebellion. We ace little of a pleasing chatadter in the Bow Ae. spect which this treaty bueiness-is aasumin If our government acquiesces in the proposition of England, it will be a great diplomatic triumph for | her government and a humiliation of our own. The only redeeming feature about the busineks 14 that it would probably result in a prompt settlement of direct claims, It is evidently about time for Secre- tary Fish to be superseded, {From the Poughkeepsie Eagle, May a0) Perhaps itt wasa mistake to put such a claira in the American case at all; but we are not sure of that either. Just now we are in the condition of the injured nation, and England the neutrét whose acts are criticised; but the chances are ten to one that the positions will be reversed before many rears go round. Whenever England goes to war Yer marine will constitute her most vulnerable omt, and, no matter how iriendly our people are, | itis almost certain that some ‘complications will arise. In the settlements that will follow such com- | plications all the precedents of the present diplo- | matic controversy will be of great value, and we do | not see how the question of Hability for indirect | , vy our government. {From the Kentucky Yeoman, May 14.] | Several of the items classed under the head of indirect are now acknowledyed by the administra- tion organs to be “preposterous in themselves, and thrust into the indictment for the sake of swelling it toa size which should at once strike the world with surprise and Great Britain with terror.” But Great Britain didn't scare worth acent. So far | from it, her Ministers at once refused to move a at Geneva, unless the indirect claims were first withdrawn. ‘To avold #0 sudden and complete a back down as that would be, Mr, Minister Schenck comes forward with his proposa of a “Supplemental Treaty” ay above announced, This, however, is but a makeshift to gain time and still further muddle matters, BRITISH OPINION, ee gen Civic Canvass of the Supplemental Article to the Treaty—Prees’ Hope of the Action of the American Senate—Presidential Politics in Opposition to Granville’s Project. TELEGRAMS TO THE NEW YORK HERALD. Lonpon, May 16, 1872. The supplemental article to the Treaty of Wash ington providing for the settlement ef the indn. * claims controversy is the most prominent topic of discussion throughout this city. The London morning journals, in thelr articles sustained the President in it as long es he seemed mindful of the dignity and interests of the coun- ry, and we woulkl'have been glad to sustain him in that path to the end. But we can see po suflicient motive for this sudden retreat and stultification. if the Senate wieh to condone and: share it, we hope it may be done quickly; that the scandal and iscredtt of the whele affair may pass over and be forgotten as soon.as possible. o buke to the Chamber of Commerce :— from a true and the bottom of th ecessrry. President, and the President has bis from Lord Granvilie, and there 1s little 1 py” disobey them. Let the Chamber of Commerce ‘be of good cheer. We shall lose:in this aguir + cothing but honor, {From the Journal of Coimmerce, May 16.) The administration has vo entangied its own credit with the claims for consequential damages, that it cannot disavow them without disavowing itwelf, And it has so explicitly declared that it will not claim @nyching, and never: gxpected to get anything, ou account of them, thdt it cannot |-now assert them in earnest without equally di | avowing itself, It-is to extricate the administra- tion from this dilemma that the joint ingenuity of the two Cabinets has devised the supplementary article. But neither this article, nor any other that | arybody can tovent, will make the position into which our government has brought ftseif appear Otherwise than ridiculous and disgracefal, The article cannot save the administration. Why then should it involve us all in thelr dis; we are told, presented for ratification, hut only to take the opinion of the Senate on it. In short, the adgrainistration, having brought ite buetness to Chis Pier comes to the Senate for advice, What the ate’s advice ought to be is very clear. In such | .@ crisis inany other. constitutional govecnment fu the world the remedy.svould at once suggest itself to everyone. When a British or French or Belgian or Halten administration finds itseif unable to man- age the public tnteresia it goes into retfrement | and gives others a chance to try. The same easy and eMficacious metuod.is equally in tie power of eur administration. The diiticulties of the ease are ae Insoluble, but they are whieh at- tach«not to the nation, but to the Lation’s foolish fenuine Impulse, enringing ft pockets. But. enough “to say not uae 5"? can tal ineel of these who Knew the mind four. people and the Jaw of nations, ond can thus advisedly and {utependently AsSUMY @ Position whieh the American people will enabie them to maintain. I¥rom the New York Exprese, May 16.) Bancroft Devis’ claim for consequental dsamages, ted one penny from this cladin, it, after all, so much of a backing ont to say 407 ‘The whole thing is not only a blemish, but a biotch, and this is the great e@bjection to the treaty. Every step taken, from the original misunderstand- ing, hae been from bad to worse. It i possible to realize how a treaty could have baen signed at Washington, with any clavse in {t, or Aan aecepted correspondence leading to it, with auch’ o bone of possaitie or probable contention in ita very centre. The High Commissioners anc the Senate may well take biame to themseives, (From the Philadelphia Age, May 16.) The bd now is how to get him (Grant) out of his foolish scrape. The Senate has been ealiedin to help him. stead of withdrawing the claim for indirect damages, it ts to be stigmatized @@ untenable and ridiculous by a supplementary | treaty. Tothis Great Britain agrees, She has all along been saying that the ciaim {@ ridiculous; if now the American Senate will also say that the claim pat in by our State Department is ridiculous, it fe thought that will be a graceful exit for the Grant administration. They ere welcome to it. | The treaty 18 of no account atsll. It geta nothing for our merchants, The arbitrators ef not give | them a #ixpeuce. Through the imbecility of the adminietration the reality has been sacrifloed toa | shadow A manly and straigittorward course at | the beginning might have o! almed actual and im- mediate payment of the real demand. 2 Whole matter i @ monument of aseiuine ‘mbeciiity, and we doubt if even tie Philadelphia Redical Conven- tion will venture to compliment its candidate on either skill, frankness, howesty or resolittion played in this business. [From the Springfleid Republica The proposal for w settlement is we have already given it. It does not yield our Construction, of the treaty, that it inc Indl. ms, but does w ave the claims themselves, ‘orth outlaws them from being preferre: Tnited States and Great Eritain. To the exact words, which seem to rather am- biguous, tls principle “will he gilde the uduct of the government of i the two countries are, " low agreed? ‘Tia ) $0 4d 80, oF agreed 4 for eneh, the | nan helng viige soho Mevaule, | val, Beem The fribwne also administers the following re- ‘This was avery. natured movement, and prompted ‘om it was scarcely The Senate have their erdera from the aon to fear they @race? It is not, | agonis, A new administration ¢ iveaw the | ambitious case, with its unmean!ng Ceclamations; can entrust the preparation of : Woone to men Who have at least earned Chathaus's wiscom, and whe, ‘avhen they mean nothing,” 1 have sense If the administration mever gaevnt anything by | almost bm- | SUMNER ON TOWLING THROUGH "(2 step further toward settlement, in the arbitration | WASHINGTON. —— ooo Democracy Fast Fusing with tho Liberals. —_+—— | FAILURE OF THE OLD LINE HARDSHELLS, ane The Campaign to Begin at Once. Sarees BIG G AND LITTLE G. oo Final Adjournment of ‘ ongress ton ‘the 3d of Jun cenit TARIFR 4 Passage of the Depo >! in the r WASMINGtON, May 10, tore Progress of the Democratic and Liberal Fusion—Campaign Work to Go On a Once—Voorhees’ Fallure. , Immediately after the adjournment of the Cincins nati Convention an appeal was prepared by som of the lights of the democracy in Congress, callini upon the party to dentand of its Executive Com mittee a National Convention and upon its voonid to send delegates to that Convention pledge: to vote for no one but pronounced democratic candidates, That appeal wa’ signed by thirty members of the House, but when presented for Senatorial signatares it aud not meet with success, as none were willing tol make such @ hasty committal. By the counsel of the more judicious men of the party the manifes< toes were never issued, and all supposed it was be | yond resurrection; but Mr, Voorhees and some of his friends, anxious to test the strength of their position against Mr. Greeleyy | undertook to-day to revive the — appeal, and for that purpose held a consultation to devise some plan of attack, when to their aston< ishment they found that only a fourth of the orlgl+ | nal signers of the declaration for a straight-out democratic nomination stood firm, while tha others had declared for Greeley, or wer non-committal, The democrats not heretofore’ approached were found to be to a maw opposed to any action that would injure Mr, Gree ley’s chances for a democratic endorsement at Bale timore, One Congressman who had signed the appeal gave as nis reason for repudiating his former | action that his district was unanimously for Greeley, and to append his name to the document now would be his political death. | ‘To-morrow there will be a conference here be | tween the democrats and liberal repablicans to | mature some plan of action for the coming cam, | paign, and there are here already seve~ ral prominent politicians from Virginia, West Virginia and @ large and influéntial delo- gation from Maryland. To-morrow there will ba added several from New York and Pennsylvania, on the subject, express the hope that the American Senate will approve of the suggestions embodied in Earl Granville’s draft of the article and thereby Temove the differences now existing between Eng- land and America, but fear that the exigenctes of the approaching Presidential election may cause its disapproval. It is also hinted inthe papers that when the poll- ticlans on both sides shall have finished with the into consideration and effect a settlement of the points at issue, | Recapitulation of the Robbkerics of the Pirate ShenunAcah. LONDon, (May.t5, 1872, satisfactory article showing that the claim of the American | government for damages incurred by the destruc- tion of vessels by the privateer Shenandoah | amounts to $6,600,000, while the prize money claimed by the officers of the Shenaudoan amounts | to $1,100,000, The ove also publishes a detailed log of the Shenandoah giving the name and value of every prize captured by that vessel. THE QUESTION IN CANADA. Parliamentary Debate on the International Inter- ests of:the Treaty—The Opposition Divided as to the Merits of tho Measure—The Navigation of the St. Lawrence and Lake Michigan—Value of the Fisheries Clauses, & TORONTO, May 16, 1872. The debate on the Treaty bill was resumed yeste: cay and continued until the rising of the House this morning. Phere was no division of the House, but it was mutuaily agreed that one should be taken to- day. ‘The princtpai speech made was by Mr. Holton, a | | prominent member of the opposition, but who dif- | fers in his views from the other members of the op- | position respecting the treaty, He stated that he | had from the first regarded the treaty as of great. | jue to the interests of peace, though he agreed with bis colleagues that it was far from a perfect mea- | sure. He accepted it as a question of high imperial | ' polley, but at the same time coincided tully fa all | the censure that had been passed upon the conduct of the Premier and administration In regard to the measure. The session of the St. Lawrence, without the consent of Canada, appeared to be the most | objectionable clause of the treaty, but not | 40 objectiouable as to justify ‘opposition to the whole meagire. it was no reason why the navigation of Lake Micligan should | not have been stipuimed for in perpetuity | as the free naviyation of the St. Lawrence was cou- ceded in perpetuity. It that had been done there ‘onld, in his opinion, have been a fair eauivaient. se believed that the advantages of the fishery | chanses to the Canadiana were quite equal to any- | thing the Dominion conceded to the United States, | Mr. Holton conciaded by anuouncing his intention td vote un favor of @ second reading of the bill. COURT FEES AND FINES, ‘The foliowing letter has been sent to the Clerks | of the several District Courts in this city. A letter of similar Waport has also been addressed to the | Clerks of thé Pohice Courta:— Crry « w YORE, DEPARTMENT OF FINANOE, | i COMPINOLLER’S OvFicE, May, 1872. t To CLERK OF Laie and CouRT:— Str—Your attetition is hereby called to section 7 of chapter 644, Laws of 1857, as follows: — piece it ehall be the duty of the’ Clerk of each of those Courts to collect and receive ali the fees thereof treaty, the peoples of the two nations will take it The London Glove, in its issue to-day, has an | | the Whozd on the Tari bill. } end. In well informed circles it is reported that thi¥ conferenée will devise and arrange some plan of united action, and that campaign work will be at once begun, without waiting for future conven tions, Itis claimed that assurances have been re= celved from a majority of the States that their delea gates will go to Baltimore instructed for the Cin | cinnati nominee, Senator Sumner on the Liberal Revenue Plank—Grant and Greedey and the Sup= plemental Article. Hon. Charles Sumner held a conversation to-day witha newspaper correspondent wherein he said :— “The tariff plank at Cincinnati was the fairest and | frankest I have ever met with in my experience of political conventions, Heretofore such terms ha been used as @ judicious tariff, a tax affording inci- dental protection, &c., whereby politicians could | demagogue one way in Pennsylvania and another way in Virginia, The Mberal republicans at Cin- cinnati made a compromise, liberal and honest, confessing that they could not deal in mass conven- jou with the question, and remanding it to tie people, The tssus, therefore, lost wone of its im- portance and the Convention none of its liberal, | fraternal and national character. I felt that our | polities had become more manly and less prevari- | cating when I read that plank.” The question was then asked, “Mr. Sunner, will you appear in this campaign as # partisan of either Grant or Greeley 7" , Mr. Sumner said, “I have been perfectly neutral. I cannot support Grant and Keep my self-respect or feel that Lam giving my friends sound advice. ¥ hope that the contest will be made # personal ona between the fitness, the qualifications, the record and the lawfulness of the men. If it grow to ba purely political many persons will draw the party line, It is, to my mind, just now, a contest betweea the big letter G and the little g. Grant is the little g. Horace Grecley has been an unselfish, charit- | able, iberal, philanthropic man, He has ripened into one period. All parts of the country appreciate him, and his name is the syim- bol of good will and lasting peace. I be- lieve that if the issue be made personal and put on the ground of character Grant will be hissed out of the fled. The democratio party is regaining the confidence of timid men in the North by its good behavior. The South has | gone far to satisfy apprehensions in the North by its magnanimity toward Greeley. Nobody couli ever charge Mr. Greeley with nepotism, the gale of his influence or any mercenary seifishness. I think the big G will crash out the little g.”? Belng interrogated as to the possible fate of the Supplementary clause of the treaty, Mr. Sumner suid he could not express an opinion upon it, Ue added, however :—“The Gladstone goverument say’ to the Senate, ‘Help us to keep in office and we will have a reciprocal influence to keep you in ofc and Grant gays, ‘I accept your proposition, pa ularly with the amendment which relates to weit.’ ”? The Tarif still Working On—Final Ad- Journment Settled. ‘The House again spent the day in Committee ft At threo o'eloc! cording to the instructions of the House, ali d ceased, and now it will be simple plodding to The committee rose at four o'clock to allow General Butler to offer bis resolution that a recess be taken from 2eth May until the third Wednesday in November, the object of which is to continue in effect that provision of the Ku Klux law which allows the President to suspend the writ of habeay ’ and to account for gud pay the same into the Cit Treas monthly, urtder oth, on the Jat day. of } each and every month, OF within three days there- | after, which account shall contain the title of cach | case and the amount of fees received therein, and | the salary of such Clerk enaif pet be paid until he shali have so accounted and pad, and he shall per- fora no service until he shail have recelved the legal fees thereof, ei } id you are hereby notified that*you will be re- | quired in future to deposit all the fees received | by you a6 Clerk of the District Court hefore the 4th «ay of each month, a to make return of the same | to this office on that . Yours, reapecttully, } AND. ow a. GREEN, Bompsxpiter. | y in expectod coon tn the neighborhood of Se ¢ Valley eeaeii eter: Au exenraton party, comporéd principally of om. | sof the Pennsylvania Railroad and their families, od last evening. Grasshe ia have made thelr appearance in southern Utah, and thg peopie haye been compenied | fi to fight them to save vefetution, " | Heavy rains have occurred bere during tho last corpus. General Butler attempted to speak upon the resolntion, but was not allowed to do so, and the resolution was lost. Mr. Dawes then offered a resolution to adjoura upon the 3d of June, which was carried, The Senate, it is sald, is not so anxions to ad: Journ as when It passed its resolution in April to do so on the 2vth May; but if it refuses to pass tia resolution the House will take up the Senate r lution and pass It, Passage of the Depot Bill by the Senate! The House bill locating the depot of the Penns: - | vania Central Kailroad on Sixth street, near Penn- — Aylvania avenue, passed the Senate to-day b: — jon, é i by a Vora bcd sc Ren han of 29 against 18, all the amendments having been } eroat gathering of all tho Indiun tribes in the | YOted Jowe, and now goes to the Prost. lent for his signature, ‘This is a triumpa of Colonel Scott, Over Garrett Of the Baltimore and Olio Railroad Company, who opposed this loca- | tion, “Tho coptest has been conducted with great earnestness during the entire session, The Senate hag hgd_ the subject befora them } st fourteet hours, A la¥#e number of tailrdad men were | present in the gaileries and gute-rooms, watching | the result with auxicty.