The New York Herald Newspaper, November 12, 1871, Page 3

Sal MUNICIPAL MATTERS, [223 The Aldermanic Muddile Still Unsettiled. INGERSOLL NOT YET IN CUSTODY. Tweed’s Printing Ofice Suffering for Lack of Patronage, CHARLES O'CONOR SPEAKS OF TWEED, | O'Donovan Rossa’s Views on Fair Counting. ROUTING THE REPEATERS. Assemblyman Irving’s Story as ; Told by Himself. AT THE PUBLIC DEPARTHENTS, It might naturally be supposed from the appear- aces around the City Hall and Court House yester- @ay that the “workers”? bad not’ fully recovered from the effects of the election. They gathered yes- terday morning in full strength. They crowded the basement of the Court House, congregated on the back stoop of the City Hall and discussed the stand- tng of parties c:leotively and individually in all quarters. it was currently reported that the now Diustrious Ingersoll would appear At the Sheriffs Office and give tne requisite bonds for his appearance in court to answer as @ co-defendant with “Boss” Tweed. This, of course, attracted attention to the office of Mr. Judson Jarvis, deputy, having charge bf the orders of arrest. He had heard that Mr, In- mersoll was at a certain factory in this city. Thither he repaired, armed with the famous order of Judge Learned. The young James had goue, as was learned, to the residence of his father-in-law, at Orange, New Jersey, “Why was he not followed and captured?’ queried a young man who stood in the Sheriffs office, gazing with awe on the manly forms of Deputies Cummins, Neil Bryant, Brown and irbe, . lu this regard there appeers to be a general mis- Qpuerstunding, and the Sherif and Ns deputies are D.amed by uiany for being jess zealous 10 tne matier than the importance of the case demands. it Blould be undeistood that the Sheriff is powerless to act outside of the county of New York in suc a case as the one uader consieration. Lf Ingersoll were in brookiyn the Sieri of this county could Bot serve a paper of any kind 06 hin, While the scribes aud others were waiting Depu- Mes Erbe and Keese arrived with a wiry lite Jere sey German. The little “Weutscher” was very indig- nant ut being arrested and detamed at the Sheriff's omice, He declared that it “Vas ole a made ub chops.” ‘The veputies had a lively time with the Wiry little fellow, and it was only by showing fim the handcuds and a poitceman’s clib that he was brought to his senses and kept even comparaliveiy quiet. Then there was a bad SELL ON “JIM” BROR. “It Was announced that the Marshais in the United Btates Courts had made a mistuke, aud arrested 31m Irving instead of Jun Erbe; that the descripuiun of the assaulter tallied with that cf Erbe, bemg eleven leet tive or five fect eleven in height, broad and heavy and aderued with a small mustache. Erbe and his friend Batrd were much exercised about the matter, and immed ately set avout secur- ing We necessary bonds. Up to a late hour in the afternoon Mr, Jarvis had Oot succeeded in capturing the great Ingersoll. It Was said, however, that he wouid appear on Mon- day morning, with his father, Lorin Ingersoll; his father’s partner, W. Wawon; his father-in-law, Mr. Ugilvie, and some others, as his bonuswen. At the Mayor's Oftco there was no excitement. whatever, The Mayor did not arrive until late in the alternoun, although he Was sought aller by crowds of “interviewers” during the day. Iuresponse to the inquiries as to whether he had reconsidered his determination in relation to the appointmeut of successors to those oficials ‘who hed-resigned, he said, “Why, asking any gentlemen to take those places would be like asking a iriend to dine with you when you knew the butcher had lett no meat.” No further resignations had been received up ta Jatg bour i ube aiternoon. RUMORS were flying around in relation to the various ques- tions now agitating ine mighty minds of the muniel- pal managers. The silly rumor that Mr, Sweeny was lo be arrested was speedily exploded and found to be the creation of some impecuntous Bohemian. ‘The New York Maile} Company was said to have been very badly affected by the recent tury o! events, anc that all the men ta the lithographic department, Wwiib few exceptions, hud been disinissed; wat the Bupplies had been stopped, and the men were de- manding their pay in vain. In relation to TUE ALDERMANIC COMPLICATION, it, was reported that the new Board would have the necessary papers issued to compel the canvassing Of the votes for Aldermen and the issuing of certif- Cates of election. They would then organize, elect Jobn Cochrane president; tat Mayor Hall would certainly resign, John Cochrane would ve acting Mayor, and that tne contest would be fougit Shrougn in lively style. Whe Old Board met yesterday afternoon, but did nothing of sny importance. Alderman Woltman stated that, as the general order list had grown beyond precedent, be hoped an invitation would be sent to the mem- bers, asking them to try to be preseat and dispose of some of the business befcre the Board, The mo- mentous question or report which was to have come up, ahd Which was looked forward to with so uci.expectation, did Dot come up, so that the sen- Ration mongers were left without iheir looked-tor material. At the Tax Office the business has of course fallen off, and during the past week the collections were as folluws November 4......$104,261 November 8. November 125,722 November 9 November 7 83,869 November 1o.... Total for the weer. At the Comptrolier’s Office there was no account of the rumored arrival of the Comptroller’s son, and only the usual routine busi- ness was carrisd on, The clerks were all in their ces, and gave no signs of any unusual election rang taken place. ‘The Deputy Comptroller paid to the Department of Parks and to the Department of Docks $50,000 each, ‘for tae use of the respective departments, O'DONOVAN ROSSA’S ROLE. He Believes He Beat Tweed on an Honest Count—-To Run Again if Properly Sup. | Perted—Refused to Allow Fenianism to be Mixed Up in His Centest for OMice. A HeRawp reporter yesterday visited O'Donovan ‘Rossa at his office on Broadway, and found him ooking hale and hearty after his recent campaign exertions, The conversation immediately turned jupon the contest for the Senatorahip, and ran some- ‘What a3 follows:— “Thero are various ramors as tothe course you Latena to pursue relative to the fight between Tweed ‘and you for the Fourth Senatorial district; have \you ade up your mind how to act?” “Well, so far as 1 am myself concerned, I will contest the seat, provided 1 get the proper support ite do 80, I cannot, however, afford to bear the irden of @ contest oione. If the Commitiee of uty desires to ouss Tweed I propose to give hem all the help ican. I am not so very anxious 040 the Senate as to attempt, with my pecuniary urces, Ach @ huge undertaking as to expose the jous frauds practised by Tweed'’s attacnés on “Then you know sufficient about these frauds to jarrant you in saying that ir the case were pressed eed’s 80-culled Majority would be invalidated?” «Most decidedly. There is not a man who ever voted the district Who aid not plainly see the frauds ‘were practised. wan unnecessary for me to go wo the manner 10 Which the roughs nea o them. it was simply the old ators, ‘ot midation at the polis, ion of tick e counung esse negn, ‘Sera m, 10 ver! beai ) rho. des! ta vote for the AnU-Tamineay sane re I) steps been taken to ventil enh g ‘Peommittee is now oiieee ee agsan treet, whicn. Nes already “petcrse Ge evn val bundred cases, iD WhicD the clearest ; leitiu Fitteenth strect above avenue B, and whiie | golug to it one of my triends called my atteation vo } and we nad vetter go home, NEW YORK HERALD, SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 12, 1871.—TRIPLE SHEET. ence to prove the illegality of Tweed’s claim to the seat 1s abundant.” bea ,Wwere you treated on election day in the “Well, I got such @ reception at the polling laces as, under the circumstances, you m: imagine the roughs in Cc! of the booths were instructed to vive me, I attempted to vote, but would not be allowed. ‘1 was asked why I nad not registered, and my reply was snat Lo have registered would have been serious inconvenience to me. Though I presented myself three times at the poll- ing place I was reiused @ vote, I swore that I was @ citizen, and @ friend of mine, who was with me, testified to my citizenship; but all was useless. ‘They were bound 1 deprive me of my vote and they did it, The second time | ap- pee at the polling place I was hustled about and nally arrested by @ policeman stationed there to do Tammany’s work and taken to Essex Market Police Court, where, of course, the Justice discharged me. Several times during the day, as I was going through the district, rowdies endeavored to pick a quarrel with me, but these characters I always quietly got away from.” “Suppose that the Senate expels Tweed, would ou run again for the Senate 1” “That depends, I mean to go to no expense to be elected @ Senator, for 1 can’t afford todoso. If, however, the Committee of Seventy make the neces- sary arrangements I have no objection to run, and will do my best, if entered for the race, to win.}? in way- ause jad__lon; jlesired to test the aincerity of the people in Tegan to the men who were imprisoned for Ireland’s sake, There had been a good deal of hurrahing, &c.; but I wanted to know just how far, on a push. the sym. Bias dient eka pa in seated oppose s necessary pri srrangoments tof the cipeyes ‘ 7 meyions “Yes; bui, ol urse, Vommittee of Se OIE a rian ure sos 4 at all. The Com of Seventy was busi m the success of the Relorm ticker im the uptown districts to attend \o me. In fi they made me their nominee in the battie and aumoak yor sted wi t you made, as the Irish are concerned :” - page “Entirely so. All the honest workingmen of the district voted for me. It was only those who were absolutely in the power of Tweed who opposed me. OF course, he had a large crowd of bummers nang- ing around, wuo were prepared to do anything.” “What do you think Was the difference between the rs for ment eal A youre ht 99 +] feei assure: @ far larger vote th Tweed did. There was mo repeaung for me; i tickets were thrown out, scattered in tue gutter, and even honest Citizens about to vote for me were preveniss from doing 80 through fear of their lives, am satisfied if honest men were inspectors 1 would to-morrow poll a fur larger vote than Tweed in the Fourth Senatoria: district.” “pid you, in the canvass, avail yourself of the Fe- nian organization ?’? “No, sir; several of my Fentan friends offered to lend me the assistance of their organizations, but I absolutely reused, believing that the Fenian Brotherhood suould not be used ioF such a pur- pose. ‘The reporter here ended the interview, satisfied that O’bonovan Rossa tad nad @ prety rough time Of it m his contest agalust “wix Six,”? ALDERMAN IRVING SPEAKS, What He flas to Say About His Arrest— Always a Wemocrat and One Still. A reporter of the HERALD yesterday met Alder- man James Irving, who has been so summarily treated by the United States authorties, when he | made substantially the following statement:— I was im my house the “hight betore the election and received a notice that some parties, represens- ing temselves as presidents’ of political clubs, were anxious to see me at the lower end of Fifteenth street. Securing a coach, with two friends I entered and called at the place designated, but tney haa | adjourned. We returned to the coach, which we had a crowd of peopie on the street. 1 remarked that they were some drunken persons making a noise, We entered the coacn and proceeded to Fourth avenue to see some tMmends who had requested my presence, After an interview of five minuies 1 returned home direct, to No. 302 Kast Twenty-first street, And remained in the house uptil a quarter elore six on the morning Of election. £ did not go near the men; did vot kKnoW tat there was a row progressing; did not recognize any of the. party in the alieged fracas. {do not know that | have ever seen Dowicy. 1 think thatthe accion against me has been insugated Jor purposes of persecution, because Tam a democrat and have always veen one, and gon’t dies to abandon my principles nor my Irtends. lt was for tnis reason (hat 1 accepted the Tammany nomination. Ido not consider that the whole democrauc party should pe beid responsti- ble for the acts of a lew men, and hence [am proud to sitil consider myself a Tammany democrat. I defy any person to show tual in my entire political career I have appropriated to my personal use a doliar of the people's money. On the contrary, I have always subscrioed liberally to advance tne in- terests of the party, even when [ aid not hold oftice, aud Ue statement tat I hotd, or recently held, a sinecure 18 unirue. Tne Uniied States authorities have, iu tis prosecution, treated me like a dog from rst to last. | have ucver been the aggressor tn any aiiair, and have aiways acted upon ile delensive. ALDLEM:N WELCH SPEAKS, He Thioks That the Legislature Has No Riaht to Interfere With an Elective Office. To ne EpiTor OF THE HERALD:— As there 1s likely to be some confusion in the pub- lic mind relating to the next Board of Aldermen of this city 1 desire to state publicly what my course shall ce, The term of oflice for which I was elected Alderman expires on the first Monday of January, 1872, at twelve o'clock noon. My name was among the list of candidates for Aldermen on the regular democratic tcket voted at the last election. It Lam ofictally deciarea elected 1 shall expect to take my seat for the new term, and under no otber circumstances shall 1 do so, I do not recognize the rignt of the Legislature to extend or abridge the term of any tncuinbent of an elective office; netther do [ acknowiedge its right to delegate the power to any Oficial to appoint persons to fill what should ve and always have been elective office Having always been, and expecting always to be, a democrat, I cannot acquiesce in the anti-demo- cratic doctrine of legislating persons into or out of oMice, [further hold that any charter for this or any other city should be submitted, belore tts adop- uon, to tne people who are to be governed by it, EDWARD WELCH, Alderman of City of New York. HUNTING REPEATERS DOWN, The war agalust the repeaters at the election places on Tuesday 1s to be waged to the bitter end, The Democratic Reform Committee are under the impression that the steps they have commenced and the action they are about to take in the matter will convince those who have hitherto made it a business to trifie with the most sacred rights of citi- wens at the ballot box that they have made their last dollar at such business and that henceforward the purity of elections will be maintained, no matter at what cost. Messrs, Lawrence and Clinton find great ‘willingnesd on the part of the citizens to impart the fullest and Most minute information concerning these frauds, Each day at least twenty afidavits are fled agatust inspectors of election and others, who are charged with stung the batlot boxes or burning or tram- pling ballots under foot. -Indeed, if the statements already on Ole and attested by the signatures of wit- nesses aud the informers be true, the election down town In the wards (rom Canal street, on BOTH SIDES OF BROADWAY, to the Battery, was a perfect farce and the counts Piece of hideous mockery. There have been some rtling representations aes Se which at pres- it @ appearance of ng high colored, and shou!d they turn out, after a fair test has been made tn the courts, to be founded on fact, a grand sensation is im store for all parties interested in the fleld of city politics. Republicans, demo- crates and reformers appear, 80 far, to lave each been in a certain degree ary some in one Way and some in another, but the greatest sufferers under the prosecutor's ban will be the democratic artisans. At least t urden of proof at present in the hands of the lawyers lies against them, and @ large proportion of it emanates from tne First. Second, Fourth, Sixth and oe wards. The Nineteenth ward also supplies sufficient informa- tion w send several parties up for terms varying from two to five years, TY mae too many of The Mag pI 10 at the offices of the prosecuting attorneys mi personal feeling and pique with the chi = wear ae. sire to prefer against oifenders for violating the Election jaw. The process to be adopted is—first, to obtain all the reliable evidence that can be gathered, and then nave it sworn to before a magistrate, who will issue warrants thereupon and attach the feta imphe: Already @ number of affidavits ave been taken before one of the police. Justices of this city, and in the course of afew days the warrants will probably be executed, Oharged With Playing the Ro Repeater. Supreme Court—Before Judge a In re J. E Davis.—On election day Davis was arrested, charged with exercising the right of suf. frege to too liberal an extent in the Fourth ward. Application was made yesterday morning for his re- Jease on ball. There was quite a number of Davis’ friends in Court, including Alderman Coman and Assemblyman Dunphy, and other political m: nates of the Fourth ward. Counsel for Davis ca Ppiained the nature of the offence with which he was chai and asked his discharge on bau. “Do you think the ends of justice will be served by admitting bim to bail?’ the Judge asked Assist. ant District Attorney Sullivan, “£ have no doubt of his appearance for trial if bailea,” answered Mr. Sail! “What bail would you 80g “1 think ample. at wowa ax 4b at $20,000,” aaid the Judge, with emphasis, “if I thought there was any danger of his ing to avoid a trial.” T. Davis’ counsel insisted that there was no dan- ger of this, that there was no ground for the accu- sation, and that this fact coald be easily proven, and so with Mr. Sullivan’s assent and the Judge’s acqui- escence he was allowed to give $500 bail and take his freedom. Mr. James Shelly became his bonds. man. BROSNAN’S COMPLAINT. ‘The Mechanic Maketh an AMfidnvit Also. City and County of New York, s.—Personally appeared be- fore me John Brosnan, of No. 85 Frankfort street, who, being duly sworn, deposes and says that the statements made by him and published in the HERALD and other pavers con- cerning Messrs, Hennessy and Close, of the Fire Depart- ment, are correct in every particular, and he further @eposes that O'Donovan Rossa and’ Co'onel Warren knew nothing of his intention to publish the statement referred to ti!l it was written; and further, in proof of the falsity of Mr. Close’s aworn statement that “had he (Bros- Dan) been in the shop on Saturday he should have been d charged,” Brosnan solemnly swears that he werked in 8. shop on the Saturday referred to, as his time on the books of the department can prove. JOHN BROSNAN, Sworn to before me this 11th day of November, 1871—J. G, HustED, Notary Publis for city and county of New York, A CHAT WITH MR. CHARLES 0'CONOR. What Mr. O’Conor Thinks of Tweed’s Contem- plated Flight—What Is Done and What Is Not Done About It—The New Charter and Its Provisions—The Recent Movement of the Aldermen and the Action of the Mayor. In one of the morning papers it was stated again, but rather more broadly than im the previous an- nouncement, that Mr. Tweed meditated fight, and the Statement was accompanied by details that indicated the possession of positive information on the part of the writer, With a view of ascertaining the reliabil- ity-of this report @ HERALD reporter paid a second visit to Mr. Charles O'Conor. He found this gentie- Tan in that “sky’* office of nis on the top story of the “Pacific Mall’ building, which has veen appro- priated by the “Bureau of Municipal Correction,” and discovered also that he had called ata happy moment, when Mr. O’Conor had the leisure for a little quiet talk. It wilt be seen from the subjoined conversation tiat Mr. O’Covor and the HERALD Teporter did not confine their topic of talk to the prospective flight of “the Boss,” but discussed in a discursive manner the present aspect of the politt- cal battle fleld generaliy:— “Good morning, Mr. O'Conor,” sald the reporter, “I have called again to see you.” “Yes, sir; Lam glad vo see you; take a seat.” “I find one of the morning papers, Mr. O’Conor, refers rather openiy to Tweed’s flight, and which you will remember you and I discussed some- what reservedly the other morning.” “Yes; I quite @xpect that you newspaper men will denounce me, provably, and my legal associates, in a Week or 80, for not being more prompt and more de- cisive in our action against Tweed and others, and allowing them, in all probability, to leave the coun- try.” “Then there 1s really no disguise thrown over Tweed’s preparations for his departure, 1s there?!’ “I don’t think there is any disguise but what can be seen through. He ia, turaing his property into availanle as: « preliminary steps that men take when they seek to elude justice by tigut to a foreign land.’? “But surely, Mr, O’Conor, taere are Some means that the law has at its disposal to preveut 80 great a Scandal resting upon its prerogative. ‘To allow a man lik yeed t) go unwhipped-of justice would be @ disgrace to those who have the power to put the law infmotion.” “Yeu; that is precisely wnat lexpect to hear and see published, oniy in a more amplined form very soun, when Tweed and his associates nave fled the country, But I think the p.blic will see when our plans and legai action are taid before them that we have done right and that we could vot have done anything more than we fave done.” “That 1s just where the difficulty is to the gene- ral public, who look at the matter from the outside pout of view, ‘this pubic says of Mr. W. M. Tweed that it Is just as easy to prevent him getting away as 101s any ordinary bank or bound thiel wo has ocen arrested as he walks the gangway of seme outward bound steamer,’ “Yes; bot Mr. Tweed is not an ordinary bank or bond tulef.’’ “But you have the police and detective force at i herpes Uhe Same as any other citizens, Mr. Sonor.’ “We have; but the police force would not be very active in arresting Mr. Tweed even now, if we could give them the power, and would certalaly now help us by Iniorsiing us as to his movements.’ “Then you inink Mr. Tweed will take his flight, as a matter of policy, and that there are not many impediments in Dis way Ut he chooses to do 17?’ “1 certatly do think so, and 1am quite prepared for the temporary pablic indignation that will con- sequently arise. I don’t think that he will be the only proimmeut criminal thac will either,” “Well, 11 his Might 18 890 inevitabie, the next con- sideration 18 his bail. That is a mutlion, I believe; shail you appty for its entargement ?”” “itis scarcely fair to ask me that. You will prob- ably remember What was said in our papers when We ipstituied the civil proceeaings against Tweed. Our papers show that ‘lweed ought to have been heid in a tiree milhons aud @ half bail, but the Judge fixed it ata milion. Idon't complain of the Judge's decision in any way. No man that I am aware of iu the mstury of the country was ever held before ma million dollars bali, and the peopie are not accustomed to these large amounts of bail, and @ million doliars geemed sufficient tv hold Tweed. am airaid it will not be.” seems almost @ pity that you cannot pring the action of the United states government to bear in a case like this, Mr. O’Conor.”’ “‘A8 lar a8 that is concerned we cannot; but [am a democrat, and even if we could { shoutd be op- yord to bringing the United States government in, am disposed to think the government has inter- too much already.” am afraid it will always remain a lasting dis- grace to tis city, and be very prejudicial in a moral point of view, if men who steal millions are allowed to get away irom justice and luxurtate in foreign Janas without any let or bindrance by the country they have so shamefully defrauded.” “Tweed will not be alowed to ao that, Wherever he may go in Europe he will find that he cannut re- main with impunity. He will be followed wherever the law cin follow him,” “1s it not better to prevent his going, Mr. O’von- fe ‘Well, 1 am much more concerned about pre- serving intact and away from the plunder of these Ubieves the balance of the City Treasury than I am About obtaining restitution and pumshing them. 1 would do voth i we can, butit it Is @ choice as to the two I preicr the toner to the latter.” “Ficida, (he Corporadion Attorney, whom you are prosecuting too, has been admitted also to bail I see, the ground of fraud:? “Yes, certaluly. I anderstand Fields is greatly disappoinied with bis Majority—it 1s layger than he | wished 1¢ to be. There 18 no doubt that he has cheaied Mr, Seymour out ol his election; but it 1s equally ceriain that Mr. Seymour, wilo will be an invaluabic leislator, wail take the seat,” “You don tiniend to dispute Fields’ seat on the ground of his bre department trauds, | presume.” “No, his seat will be disputed on’ the ground of fraud at the elections, of wich I believe there 13 abundant proof. Tne civil suit is complete in every respect, and Fieids’ fraud can be assailed techni- cally and on its merits, 1 think if the district had been as weil watched as some of the other districts Fieigs could not have got himself counted in.” “So I suouid think; the Legislature promises to be free from the rowdy element to a very large exe tent, Ihear they have retrained irom counting Frear in, and that he ts not elected ?”? “J don’t Kuow Mr, Frear, but | am told that he is @ very objectionable person for a legisiator.”” ‘“yhere are rumors about the new charter and its provisions, I suppose there is @ cuarter already drafted for the Legislature, Mr. O’Conor?”’ “Yes, I think when it comes before the public the people Will approve of its provisions, I, of course, can say noibing about it; but there is no dount that it will be a charter that will provide for a more just government of the people.” “Phis new dimculty with the Aldermen, Mr. O’Conor; has it occupied your attention in any way, 8018 to enabie you to give an opinion of the teq aspect of the claims of the present incum- n “No, I have not thought anything about it, I think the Mayor need not trouple himself very much respecting It. Why should he? In January, in any case, the newly elected Aldermen will be tne Alder- men, gnu all questions of law points will be swept away.” “The fact is, Mr. O’Conor, there 1s so much real Work before reformers and the Executive ot the city government that it is @ pity there should be any time wasted in legal squabbles. This reminds me, too, that I have encroached too long on your time, and I theretore say good day.” Mr. O'Conor courteously bid the reporter farewell; but as the latter opened the door into the anteroom he found several ‘professional interviewers” ready to operate upon the patience of Mr. O’Conor if he Would allow them. THE PHILADELPHIA AND TRENTON RAIL- ROAD, - PHILADELPHIA, Nov. 11, 1871. At the meeting of the Philadelphia and Trenton Railroad Company, held at noon to-day, resolations ‘Were adopted to obtain at once the written assent of ‘the stockholders to lease the road to the Pennsylvania Railroad, Voting was then proceeded with as a formal requirem: and the entire vote was in favor of the lease. 18 completes the trans‘er of 408 mules of raiiroad in New Jersey to the Pennsyl- as well as the Delaware and Raritan a of 68 miles; the J City ferry, the Camden 8 ‘hiladelphia ferry and the Delaware Bridge The Pehneyivania Reiiroad Company will wxe Possession on December 1. | from vo you think his electtom will be disputed on | CALVARY CEMETERY. The Charge of Mismanagement What is Said About It. and YET ANOTHER COMPLAINANT. Three of the Trustees Express Their Opinions About Themselves. The Vicar General Declines to Make a Statement. great was the excitement of the campaign and 60 strong the ambition to hold office that from the entire congregation of the Cathedral not more than a dozen votes were cast, ‘These assertions, how- ever, I should bp ah ngre by in silence were they not tollowed on the 9th inst. by a note signed B. G. F. and others, which says, “Billy (Hart) is not only a Trustee of the church, but, as I am told fora fact, trustee of some real estate in this city belong- ing to two children and their unfortunate step- mother.’ That I am or have been a ‘Trustee of the Cathedrai I, emphatically deny. It is @ fact, of which I admit the truth, that I am “trustee of some real estate im. this city,’ but why drag my rivate atairs before the public? The intention of tho writer is evidenuy to impugn my honesty and convey the impression that 1 am faithless in the discharge of my trust, That insuation, false as ic is malicious, I repel, aud 1 would suggest that the Supreme Court, oy which I was fully and iegally appointed trustee, fs the pro- per trivunal before which my deeds should be can- vassed and judged. I fail to see any connection be- tween the malignant insinuations of an anonymous assailant of private character and a healthy desire for reform im Calvary Cemetery, and I can only discern an enemy who, availing himself of the pro- pas Ate ne be has bsp si Sievoee to gral private spleen, pec! y (WM. T, A. HART. TRUSTEE FANNING DENIES THE CHABGES AGAINST bie Se: Which have already been made To THES EDITOR OF rar HeRATD:— public concerning the present management of the Calvary Vemetery have made no small excite- | @ ment, and the Catholics are naturally very much exercised over the matter. Upto the present time In reply to the article headed as above in the Sun- HERALD otf the Sth inst., | positivery assert that, although I have been a member of the congregation of St. Patrick’s Cathedral for upwards of a quarter of a century, [have never sold $5 worth of gooas or no attempt has been made by any responsiple | Merchandise to said Cathedral, nor have I ever re- party to deny the specific charges of mismanage- ment which have been published. It is true that letters, which will be found below, have been | sexton. received from various persons who are connected with the Cemetery office or the Cathearal, complaining grievously that the charges should have been made atall, yét the writers have not deemed it worth their while to attempt to dis- prove the particular charges made agatnat the gene- ral management. One denies that he has had any- tning to do with the furnisning of any articles to the churches or religious iustitutions; another professes his ignorance of WHAT IS DONE WITH THE FUNDS; another denies that he ever was an inspector of election for trustees; and yet another, in asserting that ne was not neglectful of his duties, puts in a good word for the young man who attends atthe services over the dead inthe mortuary chapel, and claims that he ia not a gardener nor a grave-digger; ye no person has as yet come forward to disprove the charge that the cemetery is not cared for as it should be, and that there is a great deal in its man- agement which 18 reprehensible to the last degree, It may be that those only wno act as subordinates are guilty of THE GENERAL NEGLECT and mismanagement, but those whose duty it is to see to It that the affairs of the cemetery are managed properly and with alldue regard to the rights of j those who have a@ proprietary interest in its being conducted In @ way that would admit of no com- plaint should make it their dovty to correct all abuses once they have been exposed, During the present week @ number of letters treating of the management of the cemetery have been received at the HEeERALD office, and among them one “J, H. Corby,” a letter from whom, It will be remembered, was published last Sunday, This letter we refuse to publish, first, on the ground that the writer does not give his plave of residence, as a guarantee Of good faith, and secondly, because | be makes allusion in it to the Rev. Father Farrell, pastor of St, Joseph's church, which, in pout of fact, amounts to a direct attack upon the reverend gentleman in regard to the management of certain monetary affairs of the diocese, Besides, the writer dqals in too indefinite a way with various other matters connected with certain churches in the city to make his statements of value to the general public, WHAT WILL NOT BE GIVEN. It should be here stated that a HERALD reporter was sent yesterday to the residences of Archbishop McCloskey and Vicar General Starrs, with fnstruc- tions to ascertain from them what they thonght of the charges that had been made in so many letters to the HERALD against the management of Calvary, and if they were wiiling io make any statement concerning the charges. The Archbishop was not able to see the reporter, as he was just on the Pome, of mamng out of town to officiate as & cone mation ceremony to take place to-morrow, The Right Kev. Father Starrs, however, was at home and received tne reporter with his usual urbanity. He was very mdignant about the state- meuts that had been made concer ning the cemetery affairs, and, in answer to the reporter's persistent questionings, contentea almseif with saying:— “1 decline sevine anything further about the matter than that Calvary Cemetery is under the direction and superristoa of the archbisnop, and, in the abseuce of the arcnbishop, under my direc- tion and supervision.” ReProrTER—Will you tell me, Father, what is done with the funds? Vicak GENERAL—I decline to give any informa- tion on the subject, as | think it would be derogatory to the character of the Archbishop and my own to have the statements of the low people who have made the charges placed on a par with our own; in other terms, to have their word taken as good as ours. REPORTER—Will you not give me your views for publication as to any of the charges that have been made? TE es GeNERAL—I will not, for the reason I have ated. The conversation which then ensued between the right reverend fatuer and the reporter was of a strictly confidential character, and 80 cannot be made public, Suffice it to say that the Vicar Gen- eral, although expressing himself extremely indig- nant, that such “infamous” charges as nad been made against the Calvary Cemetery management had been made public, treated his visitor with the greatest of courtesy and kindness. The following ietters will speak for themselves:— SCANDALOUS SCENE AT A CHILD'S GRAVE, To THE EDITOR OF THE HERALD:— Your article in last Sunuay’s HERALD on Calvary Cemetery has elicited much comment and commen: dation, and will, DO douot, have a beneficial effect in waking up its sleepy trustees, As a jurther illus- tration oi the way things are managed there I will give you in brief my own experience on a recent in- terment of achild, Having being informed by the undertaker that a day’s notice 18 required for opemng @ grave | entrastea him with aeed for that purpose. On arriving next day at the cemetery we were directed to the burial ground, 1 will here state that J purchased my plot some years ago, but had taken no precaution as to marking it. As We were about to remove the coin the gravediggers, who had jast fuished opening a grave, examined our deed und stated that we were not directed to the rigt Spot; so we had 10 take a “uew departure,” fol lowed by iwo gravediggers. Alter much recon- noitring, the latter, first. caretuily examiuing the marks on our deed, decided they bad iound the true spot. From my recollection of the place on my last visit signified to: them . that 1 thought they were misiaken. The leader of the two said, “No, he could not be mistaken, a3 he had had much experience about the ground.”’ So they went to work, and when the grave was halt dug he somehow arrived at the conclusion he was wrong. He got out and took another survey, and selected the plot in the rear of the one he had first chosen. This proved to be the right one. Thug were we detained some two hours. I ask you, sir, who 1s responsible for such gross negli- ence? Why there not a Pee person levailed to guide funerals to the graves? in this case the blame ts in part to be attributed to astupid undertaker, who saould not ‘undertake’! anything untii he learns the topography of a ceme- tery; but, certatury, the trustees should see to it that When a day’s notice Is given to open & grave operations should not be delayed until the funeral cortége, In no other cemetery is there such gross carelessness and want of pride in adorning and decorating the last resting place of a “_ and prosperous community, » He NgW YORK, Nov. 11, 1871. SUPERINTENDENT CAROLIN RXPLAINS. New York, Nov. 11, 1871, To THE EpiToR OF THE HERALD:— In a letter published in an article in last Sunday’s HERALD, under the heading of ‘Calvary Cemetery,” & person siguing Himself “J. H. Corby," calls upon me, on behalf of the trustees of St. Patrick's Cathedral, to give an account of the money collected for the Catholic semumary at Troy. Iknow notaing about the funds of that institution, It is under the jurisdiction of the most reverend Archbishop. In another part of the article it 18 stated | am treasurer and that | have a “fas thing on Calvary.” I beg leave to state 1 @m not treasurer of St. Patrick's Cathedral or Calvary Cemevery, nor have lever held that position, D, CAROLIN. {A correspondent states that Mr. Carolin receives $1,500 a year as snperintendent of the cemetery oMice in this city. Jt was by an unintentional error that he was mentioned in te article ulluded to as tne “treasurer.”) ‘TMB SEXTON OF THE ST. PATRICK'S CATHEDRAL DE- PENDS HIMSELF, To THR Epttor OF THE HERALD:— In your issue of last Sunday, in the article entitied “Calvary Cemetery,” you are led unwittingly to do me an injustice, ol Which { am confident I have only to Iniorm you in order to receive an equally public excneration at your hands. Among the “fatal pine’ I find “Billy Hart, Sexton of St. Patrick's, ‘was an inspector—one of the two at the election on Easter Monday.” Immediately Preveding Is ihe sen- tence which gives it point:—The feats of ballot stufting which have been performed by Tammany experts in times [od by are completely cast in the shade by the flagrant ontrages committed by HR, RES adie GLY anolyte oceu Dosi- tion of Sexton of the ‘Cathedral “only; that Thave never veen an inspector of election. in con- nection with the subject of traadulent voung I will volunteer the information in contradiction to your untruthful ioformant, and which may surprise some of your readers, thay at the last elecuon. so ceived $1 or any greater sum for the same, either directly or indirectly, to my pecuniary interest; neither am Ia relative of William T. A, Hart, the EVWARD FANNING, 226 Bowery. NOVEMBER 11, 1871, THE SURVEYOR OF THE CEMETERY SENDS A HUMOROUS, SATIRICAL AND ORIGINAL LETTER, FOR WHICH HB IS ‘PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE — HE DEMOLISHES THE HERALD COMMISSIONER, 61 Liberty STREET, Nov. 0, 1871. To THE Epiror oF THE HERALD:— In your issue of Sunday, 5th inst., there appeared @ three column article, witn the following appalling tule in large capitals:— CALVARY CEMETERY, LO088 MANAGEMENT AND UISGRACEFUL CONDITION, A HERALD ComMIssiONEE MAKES AN INVESTIGATION, Ong So much for the heading; now forthe commis- sioner. What is it? Is it a reporter “by another name?’ or is it the fabled ‘“lonkey with ‘the llou’s skin” It must be something dreadru}; its language is 80 Coarse and its knowledge Of veracity so llinied, What the thing may happen to be 1s, however. of little consequence. It is only when the creature uses the columas of a powertul journal to spread abroad its false utterances that It becomes a sub,ect deserving of any notice. As the sel{-styied commissioner begins with a quotation from Shakspeare, he cannot possivly ob- ject to the followiog from Byron:. skilled by @ touch to deepen scandal’s tints, With all the kind mendacity of hinta, While mingling truth with falsehood, sneers with smiles, A thread of candor with a web of wiles. Iv1s not_my intention to follow the commissioner in all bis inaccurate statements or his Mean Insinu- ations. 1 will simply content myself by glancing at | his errors and correcting as 1 meet with them. He states that “a long, curcular road winds through the cemetery,” &c, I should think that a “orrcular road”? should wind round the cemetery | and not through it, Instead of one road there are eleven row the ave age width ofeach is twenty- | five feet. Tney are alt macadamized in the most | through mauner and are aiways Kept tn excellent condition, There are spaces of five feet tn wiath leit on each side of these roads for grass andtrees, | Moat of these spaces have been planted with shade trees by the trustees. Ln the older part of the ceme- tery there is rather an excess of follage. Ip the newer part the trees im some instances have not as yet been planted and in others they have not nad time to develop, it 13 untrue that boxes are |} lett by the open graves with bodies in thein—1t oiten happens, however, that the undertakers leave | the empty piue boxes giougside the graves while the burial services are taking place in the Mortuary Chapel over the bodies. tis evidently the object of the writer rather to excite @ fevling of distrust and hatred against the ‘Trustees for some private reason of his own than to correct any errors of mMapagement on their pari, | He insinuates that the trustees have themseives | elected for the purpose of making money out of the cemetery, Which is certainly untrue, In order to show ciearly toatl am not mistaken I shall be obliged copy rerbatim eb Utleratim an “elegant extract’? from your correspondents letter, After sundry pleasant—uay, jocosc—remarks about eignt of the trustees, he delivers himself as foliows:—“‘imes Carolin, This is the treasurer, head centre, Jactotum adtatus on wie stat (as Fremont used to call Zagony!) of Cul- vary Cemetery, Dines 18 placed last in this list; but in the: annals of the Caivary Ring he 18 not by any means the least of the angels of might. Dines has decidedly a tat thing on Cal- vary. He was formerly in the haberdashery linein Cedar strees, and 18 now comfortavly located in East Twellth street, where he ts always at nome to see his friends and tender them ‘bread and tay and poteen galore.’ Whata bigh-toned gentleman must he be who peuned the above! How eiezant his diction, how exquisitely delicate his satire! ‘That ‘bread and tay and poteen galore”? cannot be excelled. ‘Chat ts aiso @ neat touch about Fremont and Zagony!, for the genteman, you sec, must have been in the war, consequently he 18 @ brave man and a soldier—perhaps. In fact the above extract lacks only oue element to be perfect, and that is trutii—an article with which our warrior C sioner does nor seem to be uvervurdened, in reply lhave to state that Mr. Carolin ia not now, nor never has been Treasurer. Mr. Caroiin 13 neither an anget of light nor of darkness, but an old geatieman of nearly seventy years, who 13 up- right and straightiorward in all bis dediings. His age and unblemished life entitie him to ummunny from the imperuinence of your mane correspondent. Mr. Carolin beiongs to no ring either in or out of Calvary; neither 13 he nor was he inthe “naber- dagnery line.”” He was formeriy in the dry goods trade and was what 18 Koownin that trade asa dry goods jobver. He acquired a handsome compe- tence in business, and among otner investments purchased the house im East Twelfth street where he now resides, in the general crash of 1857 Mr. Carolin failed, not irom any fault of his own, but because others could not” pay tim what they owe lim, He, however, paid his devts in full by sacrificing property which less honest men would Nave kept for themselves. Simce that time Mr. Carolin bas not been in business, but has devoted his ume to matters connected with the Catnoic Church, Among other institutions to waich he de- voted nis energy was the establishment of the Sisters of the Good Shepherd, an order of nuns de- voted to the reformation of fallen women and the education of children, ‘Their convent 1s at the foot ot Ninetieth street, East river. The attack on Mr. Caroitn’s character 1s most Wanton, gross and cou- temptbie, One more quotation trom your correspondent and Thave done, As the paragraph refers to myself, I will be very brief. Itis a8 ioilows:—* The Ceme- tery has, of course, an oiicial called a surveyor connected Witn its stail, at a good salary. ‘Lhe for- au holder or the alnecure is Mr. Edward Boyle,” Cy KC. My modesty prevents my quoting further, as the paragraphs ends in .julsome coaipliment—intended, presume, to be satirical. ‘ne knight of the quiilis again inerror. I have } never received a salary from Calvary Cemetery and never e)ther desire or expect to receive one, fuere 1s no such officer as surveyor to the cemetery. Whenever the, trustees require my professional services they employ me, as they would any one | eise, and wuen | have finished they pay my bills, la | order that any one who reads (his may judge of | wnat a mice “sinecure’ I nave got, I need only state | that my bilis, rendered vo and paid by the trustees from January 1, 1860, to November 9, 187!—a period of nearly eleven years—amount in the aggregate to )3,825 63, . Calvary Cemetery was originally laid out in 1848 by a Mr. Maypother, and it has mot been thought | expedient to materially alter the original systew, In the years 1843, 1849 an’ 1850 I Was projessionally engaged at Greenwood Cemetery, To what extent my services tended to the development of that ceme- tery ts not for me to say. Thoid myself personally responsible for the truth and accuracy of all my statements, Fiease accept my best thanks for your courtesy, and velleve me to to provide for the maintenance and extension of the a8 needs may require, Somethin, also, “aliquid,” is provided for, to go to the oficiat chaplain, Beyond this—nothing. e do not know how our respected cot dent Will like this exposition; but we assure him we are Well posted in what we say, and that we discussed the whole matter with learned theologians and dis- tinguished bishops twenty years ago, and came to the conclusion not to discuss the question in general, much less in its particular application to Calvary Cemetery, in our columns. It is @ matter ta be settled only tn pursuance of @ practical case before the authorities that God haa set in His Church, As to the eminently wise views and sentt- Ments of our prelates in counetl, we refer our cor- Tespondent, who reads Latin a he does our ver- nacular, to that admirable volume, “fhe Acts of the Plenary Council in Baltimore.’ Hs will there see the scltcitude of ocr prelates that quasi parishes ave each their several cemeteries, if tne Want, and wiil maintain them, ° WAIFS FROW THE WHITE HOUSE, His Excellency the President Launching Licue tenant Fred on the Sea of Buro- pean Experience. General Sherman’s Proposed Grand March Over the European Battle Fields—What the Son of His Father Intends to Investigate Con- cerning the Nephew of His Uncle—The™ Presidential Party in the City. No litle interest was excited yesterday in thé Metropolis consequent on the announcement in the HERALD that the President was expected to arrive from Washington, for all knew that the gemal and gentlemanly scion of the house of the distinguished tanner of the rebellion was about to leave for Europe in company with the General of the Army. ‘The President, Miss Nellie Grant, Lieutenant FP. D, Grant, Dr. Alexander Sharpe, General Horace Porter and Captain D, Amman, United States Army, arrived at the Flitn Avenue Hotel by the early train from Washington, and about the same time General Sherman and Colonel Audenried took quarters at the Astor House. Such a galaxy of distinguished visitors were seldom announced in the columns of a New York daily journal, and as it to heighten the excitement, 1t was rumored that the Grand Duke Alexis had arrived in the lower bay. A HERALD reporter was despatched at an early hour to learn the particulars of the administrative movement eastward and to chronicle the DOINGS OF THE DISTINGUISHED PARTY. He was unable to discover much, the President being very busy at the Filth Avenue and unable to see visitors who called, as the represen- tative of the HERALD did, to pay ther respects. fle ascertained, however, sufMicient facta to warrant the heading to this article. The Presi- dential party cume to see Lieutenant Grant on board the Wabash and bid him adieu, and the other distinguished people arrived to wisi General Sher- man and the distinguished son of the President @ pleasant sojourn in Europe. the Wabasi was to have arrived yosterday, but having to undergo re- pairs at Boston, she is nol expected here until to- morrow, Wien sie Will imimeriately proceed to jom the fleet in the Mediterranean. General sherman and Mr. Grant will probabiy leave tne Wabash af Nice, and from thence proceed on a TOUR OF THE EUROPEAN CONTINENT. Mr. Grant will take lessons on the failure of the French and treasure up wisdom on the battie delds of the Rhine. General Stiermau wiil take a K and compare Versailles with 1 Grant, who was at sburg, Wil look over the feid of Sedan and inspect the battered battlements of Strasbourg and wonder how it would have been if U, 8. G. instead of the Nephew of mis Uncle nad commanded tne forces of the Freuch, The tonr of taspection will occupy four months, unless the General of the Army 1s recallea for duty in the meauwatle. ‘rhe Presidential party spent the day quietly, avoid ing notice, and eayeriy anxious to enjoy the pleas- ures of the metropolis like less exalted citizens. ‘They will remain until the Wabash sails for the be, sir, yours, very respectfuily, bear EDWARD BOYD. (From the Freeman’s ee a Catholic Register, ov. 11. CALVARY CEMETERY. A very well educated gentieman, in professional life, Who 1s also—and has been from childhood: Catholic, writes us, ou reading something in @ daily paper, asking us to state if it 13 not true that the revenues coming trom Calvary Cemetery are fall applied to the building of the new cathedral. ‘e Will, in reply, say two things—the second of on. may somewhat astonish our respected rieud. irst—We do not know and have no wish to Know anything about the disposition of the revenues coming from Calvary Cemetery. We have insisted on not hearing, or instantly forgetting, What we have Leen told, even by ex-trustecs. ‘Secont—We ferventiy liope that not one stone tn the new cathedral owes Its place to any revenues coming trom this consecrated cemetery. It ‘here were even one stone in that grand cathedral building purchased by yf of Uns kind we do not believe that whea It ts finally consecrated, either the prayers of consecration or the holy water or the oll of coasecration or the pres- ence of a dozen veneraole prelates would keep a nasty devil sitting on that stone from assuming the figure of a monkey if he wanted to do1t, and grinnin; visibly at the celebrants, and twiddling nls finge! tn front of his nove at them and airieking out “This stone is mine. I claim it by the settled la the Catholic Chute. Ihave aright to sit here, and laugh at you.” the reason of this ts older than the existence of the Catholic Charch in the United States, and Is one not possibie to ve modiiied by any Uatholic author. ity in the United States—suppose any such attempt were to be made, ‘fo make merchanaise of anything, on account of its having the blessing of the Church—we make ‘the expression milder than the letter of the Cnurch’s law—is stmony! It is pure and simple simony, neither more nor less, ‘The law of the Catholto Church has ruled this. To make profit out of consecrated graves is as much simony, il the proceeds are given to the holiest of causes, as if they were to be spent in debauchery, Tne thing the Catholic Church curses ia seiling any ty Gatuoulo cemetery, blessed by the offices of ne Ci the Church. charges may be made, safe and ample, the Tull, Mediterravean. FEARFUL RAiLQOAD DISASTER. Two Cars on the Northern Missouri Railroad Thrown from the Track—Three Men Killed and Over Thirty Wounded. Sr. Lours, Mo., Nov. 11, 1871. AS @ passenger train of the Northern Missourl Ralroad, which left here yesterday morning, having two.oars coutaining ninety-five recrdits ‘rom New Alosuy fittached, was approaching Wellsville, ninety miles north of this city, about noon. and ranning on a down grade at a high rate of speed, a rail broke, and the two rear cars contaimng the recruits few the track and roiled down an embankment, tarning two or three times. ‘Two of the soldiers were killed outright and between twenty and thirty wounded, several of thom, itis feared, fatally, Ecwin Calvin, @ brakeman, son of Judge Calvin, of this city, waa also killed, All the injnred were taken to Wellsville and promptly cared for by Lue railroad company. Both cars were badly smasned. But for tne platform of the ladies’ car precedmg the soldiers’ car pulling ont the remainder of the train would have been ragged from the track, and the magnitude of the disaster increased. No names of the soldiers Killea have yet been re- ceived, The recruits were enroute for Salt Lake, THE WEATHER, Wasninaton, D. 0, Nov. il—7 P. Me | Synopsis for te Past Tomnty-rou Hours. ‘The low barometer, which was Friday a‘ternoon in New York, has moved eastwara into the Atlan- tic Ocead, Brisk and high northeast winds, with clear and clearing weather, have prevaticd m the Middie and Eastern States. Clear weather, with easterly winds in the Southern and Gulf States, have succeeded to the westerly winds of last mght. An urea of higa barometer has moved rapidly north- eastward, and now éxtends over Ohio and Michi- gan, with clear weather. The barometer has fallen, with threatening weather, Cloudy weather has prevailed on Lake Superior. Provavuities. An area of low pressure will prodabiy develop on Sunday west of Lilinots, ard inbreasing southerly winds be experienced throughout the Mississippi Valley and on the upper lakes, with failing baro meter and rising temperature; pleasant weather prevails very generaiiy in the Southern and Guif States, with ligt easterly winds; rising barometer, with northwest and easterly winds and falling tem- Derature in the Middle and Eastern States. Cau- tionary signals continue thts evening at New York, New London, Boston and Portland. War DeraRtMsyt, OFFICE OF THE CHIE? SIGNAL UPFICER, The Weather in This City Yesterday. The totlowing record will show the chaazss in the temperature for the past twenty-four hours in com- parison ith we corres adiag day Of Last year, as indicated by the thermometer at tudnuat’s Phare macy, HERALD Building, coraes of Ana street:— 18 70. 1ST. 1870, 187L “6 32 @ 45 + “a “6 « 0 “ - 52 41 12 P. Me. M7 2 Average temperature yesterday. “4% ‘Average temperature for corvesponding date last year... : . Weekly average “ Weekly average for corresponding date last year.. : 21 DANGEROUS WALLS, Almost Another Disaster~The Tenth Avenue Man Trap. The public mind came very near being treated ta another horror yesterday, in the shape of a large amount of human life being crushed out by the tumbling down of & dangerous wall in Tenth ave- nue, At a@ quarcer past nine o’clock in the morning @ portion of the rear wall of the building No 479 «Tenth avenue fell into the street, and almost buried five workmen, who hap- to be employed in tne neigh- ed Bornooa, beneath the ruins. ‘Tals is the same cou. struction in which the fire occurred on Wednesday last; the side wall tien fell out and hurt a large number of firemen and policemen, some of whom are now ina critical condition. The walis of the shell now stan are ina moss dangerous st and a number Cue tan oe ‘Were sent len u @ ani way Soe The super ntendent ‘oF Buildings —— Rotfied of the appalling danger to pubilo | ‘while this buiiding vemaius tn its present state, and itis strange tnht he has not yet taken steps 0 6e, cure the man trap and provect the people.