The New York Herald Newspaper, October 7, 1871, Page 4

4 AROUND THE CITY HALL, The Situation at the Various Departments Yesterday. $100,000 MORE FOR THE LABORERS. The Department of Parks and Deputy Comptroller Green at Issue. SUITS AGAINST THE CITY OFFICIALS, AROUND THE DEPARTMENTS YES- TERDAY. Yesterday was a kind of “settling dav,” to use a Wall street phrase, in the municipal departments of the city. The Rochester agony was over. Tne New York delegates from the Convention had returned, and those who held official positions settled down to work and took a survey of their own departments, with a view to getting these eady for the fierce light that the “Committee of Seventy” and al! the other committees threaten to | throw upon them. This was particularly notice- | able at THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, The Chairman, Mr. Tweed, was in his office, doing a good day’s work, trying to satisfy hungry | claimants, and, it will be seen by an interview | with him given in another column, very little | ‘Gisconcerted either by the recent political action of the Convention or the threatened criminal pro- ceedings against himself. With regard to the latter ‘rumor is very busy, but in well informed circles no reliance was placed in the thousand and one reports that were so industriously circulated. One very | wheering fact was made abundantly evident and will | ‘be received by the public with considerable satisfac- Mon, and this is the assurance from Mr. Tweed him- that the Department of Public Works will not jbe impeded in its ordinary progress by the action of | fhe Deputy Comptroller consequent on the injunc- | ‘don of the Supreme Court, AT THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE Phere was the ordinary routine activity, but there Wwere no very speciai developments. A further pro- ‘Was made for the park iaporers. In addition to the $100,000 paid over to the Depart fment of Parks for the pay of laborers on the boulevard, on Thursday, Deputy Comptroller M has provided the further sum of $100,000 fwhich, with the previous deposit for such purpose, ‘will pay the men tn ful to the present day. Thus it ‘will be seen that the Deputy Comptroller ts paying jover the moneys as fast as the law authorizes todo so. The following important letter has | in issued from the Department of Finance to the ‘Department of Parks:— DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE, COMPTROLLER’S OFFICE, NEW YORK, . Oct. 5, 1871, Wo THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS:— feat te my communications of the 26th and 29th it. the injunction order of the Supreme Court has | {been 80 far modified as to admit of this department jraising money on assessment bonds to meet certain me: of expenditures under your department. The Board of Apportionment has aiso since those j@ates taken the necessary action to admit of the of certain assessment bonds, and I have this deposited to the credit of the Department of eParks, in the Tenth National Bank, on account i@alance) of your requisition of date June 15 last, road or public drive (boulevard) fund, the sum of bonds and stock tk Improvement Stock,’? as doubt has ex! Telative to the sufficiency of the law for its issue, it seems to me best that the necessary ee ae, be at once taken vy some person | +e ¥ a@ claim in your department to sub- mit @ question by mandamus or otherwise to the Supreme Court. I shali do all in my power to expedite the proceedings, so that no delay may fake place in obtaining a Judicial ralimg on the 1 am without a reply to my communication of the ‘28th ult, relating to the amount of expenditures by our department under various heads of account. ‘ery respectfully, ANDREW B. GREEN, Deputy Comptroiler. ‘The interview with Judge Hilton AT “THE PARKS” Bbows that the position of this department is in a Bomewhat critical condition, and indicates the necessity of a more prompt action than the Deputy (omptrolier seems disposed to take. The new departure of THE COMMITTEE OF SEVENTY f their coquetry with tbe “Union Republican County Convention,” was one of the topics dis- cussed last night pretty freely at the piaces | ‘Where politicians most do congregate. There | is an impression gaining ground __that in a few days there will be developments in the political ect of the city turmoils that will greatly astonish the public generally. An spo lon of the Committee of Citizens ie also ofthe Committee of Seventy is promised hin & few days. In the meantime the criminal and tne civil courts i be used as arenas or the _ strength of the “Ring” and the “reformers.” The more thougntful members of both sides are counselling discretion and urging their friends to imitate the fe as of the serpent and the meekness of the jove, The Suits Against City Officials. Energetic efforts are being made to accumulate evidence for the purpose of instituting both civil ‘and criminal proceedings against some of the city ofMiciaia. The “Boss” seems to be one of the great Magnets of atiraction at the present time, and it would seem that great exertions were being used to bring him tobay. It is expected that the storm now gradually increasing will become a per- fect hurricane before the elections. A representative of the Hrnatp called yesterday | upon the President of the Broadway Bank tn reference to a statement to the effect that as certain warrants bearing forged endorsements | were paid by the Broadway Bank that estab: | Usbment would be held responsible, and tnat its would be begun against itso soon as the neces- sary evidence could be coliected. The president of the bank pronounced the statement a gross false- hood, inasmuch as all the vouchers had been ex- amined by experts sa a Fd by the ciry govern- ment, and were properly accredited every week. | Whether suits would ve instituted against the bank | = could not say, having heard nothing concerning them. CHAP-FALLEN DELEGATES, Collapse of the Convention Excitement—Dual- ness King—The Delegates Non Est and the Rowdies Ditto Up to a Late Hour Last Night. When & quantity of combustible material ts pre- Pared for ignition people on the gui rire for a fare up are fearfully disappointed if it becomes known that somebody has thrown cold water on the aforesaid material. The way In which the great sset-to which was to have come off at Rochester fizzled out has in a similar way damped a great deal of exoteric ardorin New York. There was no row at Rochester, scarcely a thorough ora- torical battle, it being all judictous “back down’ on one side, without any one thoroughly getting his | ‘back up” on the other. The triumph of the judt- cious backdownists, or Taminany party, was 60 much like Falstaf’s unwillingness to attack the true prince that it will probably awaken intense en- thusiasm among a very limited numver. The cou!dn’t. wet-thetr-back-upists or reformers are about as much to be pitied as Bob Acres with his courage oozing out, or Macbeth trying to screw his courage to the sticking point, and etill less likely 10 create a pat- fiotic furor. The doors of Apoilo Hall are not hang with laurel garlands, and the regular opening for the campaign is as unpromising as the opening of the “Iliad.” Bn revanche, @ party of roughs, on their way home from Rochester on Thursday evening, “WENT THROUGH” A TRAIN, and created a great amount of terror among the passengers, swearing and maitreating according to their sweet will. Two days of a Convention and no rowdyism, not even an embryo riot, as at Syracuse, ‘was only to be atoned for by insulting every peace- ‘ably-disposed person in the train, robbing anybody who had any “unconsidered trifes,"’ such as watches or pocketbooks, and passing themselves off as drunken ruMans generally. The feelings of re- fined joy in the bosoms of sach @ gapg cannot be depicted at seeing find 1K AFFRIGHTED PASSENGBRG Grop off in fear of ther lives at the stations alon Aue sume homéwird, The deep gudaw at the ; they had the fate of nations on their brow. ite & respectable man and his wile run the risk of w passing the night at the Corning depot came from the heart. scarcely neoeseaty to say that these roughs lelegates in the conventional sense of the term, but they were wanted to take a hand in if necessary, atid a very uselul article in a small coun- try town 18 your New York rongh. It may have been yes! "s rain which quenched the transient flame in the rowdies’ hearts, but they certainly Dip NOT sHow UP in thele beloved haunts up to alate hour yesterday evening. Probably their exploits on the train haa gluuted their savagery, and they insensibly took their sabaued tone trom the almighty dulness which bung over the rest of New York’s political cosmos, THE “BOSS” SPEAKS. Important Interview with Tammany’s Grand Sachem. The Future Aotion of the Department of Public Works—No Financial Block To Be Allowed, Nobody To Be Dismissed, No Works To Be Stopped—Mr. Tweed Will Supply the Funds—The ‘Boss Defines His Own Position Politically— What He Thinks About the Rochester Convention. fhe long, dark, gloomy vestibule of the frst Moor Ol the ofices ol the Department of Public Works was yesterday, from noon until late in the after- noon, lined with gentlemen apparently of every condition of life, who were waiting with ill-(is- guised impatience to see the “Boss.” With a fitful, nervous, impatient waiting did these callers pace the narrow way to the reception room that led to the entrance to “room No. 4."" Some of these walked about, kicked their heels, and strack the flooring with the end of their umbrellas, as though they were nervously commanding ‘black care” to depart. Others solemnly trod the passageway with their bands benind their backs and with bended heads, indicative of a thoughtfulness that seemed to Imply this throng was & HERALD reporter, who handed his card to a messenger, and who took it to this inner sanctuary that so many eyes were peering anxiously upon. The messenger speedily re- turned, and, addressing the reporter, saul, “Mr. Tweed will see you m a moment.” A few more Minutes of waiting, and then the tinkling of a bell was heard. The door of No. 4 was opened and ina moment the reporter was in the presence of the First Commissioner of the Department of Public Works, Throwing himself back sligntly in his easy chair, the “Boss” gave a sharp glance at his visitor, and, with aslightly averted eye, sald, “Good day, sir.” There was a pleasant, cosey easy chair close by the side of Mr. Tweed and tn front of his desk, and with a slight motion Mr. Tweed indicated his desire that the gentleman should oocupy it, When the reporter had seated himself Mr. Tweed took up an euvelope, passed it along his Opgers and then gave another look at his interviewer. “41 have called, Mr. Tweed," said the reporter, ‘to see you on behalf of the HeRaxp, in reference to Mr. Green’s letter addressed to your department, and (with a smile) to ask you what you are going to do about it?” “Well, there isa difference between Mr. Green's statement and our books. {am endeavoring to as- certain whatitis. Ithink I’m right and Mr. Green is wrong, but I can’t tell yet.” “It 13 a difference of detall, 1 presume, more than any supstantial difference ?” “No, 1 think the difference is very substantial. Of c ourse 1 cannot teil yet, because, as you know, I have been away and only returned this morning to the office. 1 have told the clerks in each of the bureaus to report to the head of their departments, 80 that the accounts may be thoroughly invesu- ated. We shall then see whico of us 1s right. I u I shall be very much surprised if he is not.” “wut his mMvestigation occupy a long time, Mr. “No; 1 think we shall be through in a few days— probably by Wednesday. I'll let you know directly ‘Wwe get to something like a conclusion. 1 am very anxious fo get this matter thoroughly investigated, Having only got here this morning, I’ve not had time to do much in it, but there has’ been no delay er catey part. I don’t intend that there shall be either. “In the meantime there is a financial block, Mr. aweed, as far as any further appropriation to this department is concerned ?”’ “Yes; but I don’t know that that will do us much barm. I think we can go on.” “Then you have no intention of stopping tue works?” “No, certainty not.’ “Tnen there will be no dismissal of those already employed, nor is there any ground for the fear so generaliy expressed in the city of great public in- convenience resulting from the Comptroller's inter- ference with your department ?”’ “<Not the slightest ground for any pubilc appre- hension at all, I don’t intend to dismiss one em- ployé nor to stop any one of the works one mo- , ment. I presume, Mr. Tweed, you will indl- “Then, vidually make arrangements for tiding over the financial block ?”” “Yes; I don't mean one of my employés to suffer. They will be paid just the same as though there were no Comptroiler’s letter in existence. Mr. Green and I will no doubt nave come to some un- derstanding by Wednesday, and until then, at any Tate, as far as iam concerned, I mean to take care of this department. Neither it nor the public will bs lamsure of that. I don’t mean it vo, any- ow." “J am sure the pablic will be delighted to hear it, Mr. Tweed. Itis a sub,ect that is quite absorbing every otaer topic of these exciting times; for on it the comfort, prosperity, and, indeed, the satiety of the city depends.”” “On, we Were not going to allow the city to suffer in thai way. It is only @ question of money; no- body thinks the works are not needed, I suppose.” , certainly not. Talking of money, Mr. Tweed, I don’t know whether you have seen a paragraph in the morning papers about some forgeries of signa- tures on vouchers cashed by the Broadway Bank. But you may probably know whether there is any truth in the rumor.” “No, I should not know anything about It, even it were so; but I don’t think there is any truth in City vouchers are not likely to have forged sig- natures upon them,’’ “T guess tt is 4 sensational story. It don’t amount to much. You got back from Rocbester last nignt, 1 suppose*” “Yes, | got away as soon as the Convention was ver”? 0 ‘The public was greatly exercised yesterday in trying to decide whether fammany had sustained a | victory or a defeat. Lsuppose you, sir, have formed eoine judgment as to which It is?" “I don’t think: there is much victory or defeat in “It depends 8 good deal upon how it is looked at." “Yes, that 13 just where it is. I did not goto Rochester to divide my party. I have been a demo- — all my life and I am going to be one to the ead Of it.” “Yes, that is where I think the head of the Con- vention was level, Tney would not sacrifice the a LET ae however strong those prejudices itt bea" “No; I went a democrat and Ihave come back a democrat. I said privately, and I said publicly, too, that 1 was ready to do that which was best for the party. It would never do to divide it on any issue, it | and certainly not on a local one, “Then the differences in the city here are to be fought out on their own merits and in the local elections?” “Why, Where eise can they be fought? the city knows best what to do in its own afairs, and we were not going to let it interiere with our action When we met as democrats.” “Really, alter ail, this quarrel is toa large extent personal, aud should be confined, I should think, to the personal issues,” “Yes; Lam able to take care of myself porson- ally. You heard what | said when | addressed my constituents the other night. Iam going to stand to that, IJdon't mean to get away from that. I tink I can take care of myselt. I always have done 80, and | am not going to despair of it now."’ “Then, a8 far a6 the Convention 1s concerned, I Presume you are satisfied with its action.” “Yes; they need not have consulted me there, but they did. ‘They asked me about the nominations; they showed me a ticket which they intended te prone ‘They asked me if I haa any objections to it, Itold them I had not. The ticket, however, which was carried at the Convention was diderent for the one they showed me.’ *Then you don't agree with that ticket, do you?” “Yes, certainiy, 1 snail vote forit, Whatever the Convention did Tendorse, 1 don’t quarrel with it. On the contrary, 1 shall support it. I always act with my party, and mean to do to the end.” “Thank you, Mr. Tweed, for this candid and open talk, Iam sure the HERALD will be Sid to give it to the people. It will be very satisfactory to New Pay fea his? the department tere you control is pol 1 it there is ‘ospect oft! eae Hnghclal i dufiies Ware @ Sale isfactory conclusion.’’ “I don't think we shall have any trouble about Mr. Green, and I will look iuto these accounts next week. 1 don’t know much about them Defsonali?, bat, from the reports I have recetved, at present think we shall Fywe ont of i fguare and satisfac. torily. T shoul very sorry if it was otherwise.” “Good day, sir.’ A the reporter passed through the doorway the ia | ge |W Gave Ont its heavy peal aud auother caller en- ered the oficial prewelce, Among ; | | repair them when needed and charge the expense to I think | NEW YORK HEKALD, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 7, 187L.—TRIPLE SHEET, THE PARK PERPLEXITIES. |THE MAN INTHEGAP| AQUATIOS. What the Action of the Deputy Comp- troller Has Brought About. Stoppage of the Repairs on the Harlem Bridgos— Their Dangerous Condition—The Police At- tendants and Gardeners Must be Imme- diately Discharged—No Appropri- ation for the Museum—No Sin- ecurists on the Payroll of the Parks, The Department of Parks has been so well con- ducted, and the people so thoroughly satisfied with the splendid results of the action of the Commis- sion, that the notice from this department which appeared in the H&RALD yesterday caused consider- able regret throughouc tae city. With a view to ob- tain further information on this much-talked-of vopic a HERALD reporter called upon Judge Hulton at his office yesterday afternoon, and found him in the possession of that native gentality and self-pos- session which no adverse circumstances seem able to separate him from. After a pleasant greeting and a short talk on the political situation gencrally | follows:— “What is the meaning, Judge, of the notice ap- pearing tn the papers this morning from your de- | partment respecling the bridges on the darlem River?” “It means just what it says. Unless some provi- sion is made for placing the department’in funds for the purpose we must abandon the care of those bridges, withdraw ail persons in charge of them, and also stop making the repairs aiready entered upon and required to render two of them safe for the Passage of persons and vehicles during the coming winter." “Has your department charge of these bridges?” “Yes; by a law of last winter they were put under our charge, with directions to matntain and the counties of New York and Westchester tn pro- portion to their jurisdiction. New York extends to high-water mark on the Westchester side. You will perceive that the expense of this matntenance nd repairs falls almost wholly upon us.’? “What is thelr present condition?” “Third avenue bridge broke down last summer, and was immediately put in order, 30 as not to interrupt the public travel, and in a few weeks was put im complete repair. Macomb’s Dam bridge last spring was conceded to be in a very dangeroas condition, imperilling fe in cross- ing it. The timbers had all decayed where resting on the ground or where joined, ana It was extremely doubtful whether itcouid be maintained long enough to remove and replace these timbers, Our engineers, however, took it in hand, and with great care regu- lated the travel over it, and proceeded with the rebuilding of the bridge. It is now almost new, nearly all the decayed timb+rs being removed, and we were about entering upon the repair of the draw. This should be proceeded with at once, if regard is had for the public safety. But unless we ; Lave money we must stop work on it.”’ “What is the conditiongf the Fordham bridge?” “‘Complaint was made that it was dangerous for travel, Our engineers so regarded it, A few weeks since we enterea upon repairing it to make It safe, Our men are still at work upon it.” “Where has the money been procured to pay the expense of these repairs?’ “We nave taken it from the moneys in our hands upon accounts other than assessments, intending hereafter to replace it when the city will be in funds tworepay. All we have, except that raised for assess- ment purposes, is the money of the city, and it really makes nO difference out of which account it is now taken, as the amount must be returned from tax- ation.” “What provision have you made respecting the beiaenny Pi y pec 88 “OF juey where the Macomb’s Dam and Third avy travel is almost iike upon Broadway, we have park Keepers and attendants night and day. A draw tender must likewise be on hand at all times to per- mit vessels to pass through. Indeed, few peopie in the city have any ideaof the travel over and under these bridges, and the necessity for keeping con- stant watch and care overtnem. But as we have no money for the purpose, and as the Vomptrolier as given notice that no money must be expended unless previously appropriated, and as tuere is none to appropriate, unless we con- uunue as before, and which I feel quite un- willing to assume the responsibilty of doing ater this notice, I see no alternative but to stop repairing those briages, withdraw our men and let the bridges ana the draws take care of them- seives. I would like to do otherwise. But this 1s not the only dimeulty the notice of the Comptroller ca)? — Vhat is the other difficulty?” “Well, It must lead, it enforced, to the immediate discharge of all the police attendants and workimen having charge of the care and maintenance of the Central Park and all the city parks. We wiil not be ale to buy food for tne horses, or for the animals inthe menagerie, as all those are supplied from the annual sum appropriated for maintenance, As I stated in my letter to the Comptruiler, the cost of maintaining the Central Park under the late Central park Commissioners was about three hundred and forty thousana doliars per annum. The city parks had usually appropriated to them for like purposes about seventy wousand dollars per annum. As these amounts were allowed when @ day’s work was ten hours they shoula be increased one-filth woen a day’s work 13, a8 now, Db: law lessened to eight hours; that is, the Centra! Park should have $408,000 per annum and the city parks $84,000 per annum, ‘This is exclusive of pay of park keepers ou these parks. Under the Two Per Cent act tne Board of Appcrtionment had re- maining on hand applicable to this department, and which they could appropriate for these purposes, only $186,009, and for which I suppose the law ex- pects we will te able to accomplish what has here- tofore required equal to $492,000. Besides this, the law establishing the museum and observa- tory on Central Park, and in which 1s included the coilection of birds and animals, living as well as dead, has beretofore allowed the depart- ment $30,000 per annum for their maintenance. For This we have had no appropriation this year, and the money necessary for ieeding and caring for the auimais, birds, &c., has been taken from other accounts in our hands, in like mannerfas the bridge Tepairs. Bat if we can only expend what is actu- ally appropriated for the specific purpose allowed by law, we must stop right here, dismiss every man in charge of the parks, turu the horses out to grass, send away or sell the birds and animals, and leave the parks open pla_es, to take care of themselves. As Treasurer, 1 am not willing or desirous to assume responsibility in these maitters, where, from past and present experiences, the repayment jor such thiugs consists in bein abused by some of the newspapers and ‘denounced 1n other quarters by men who ought to know better thau heap indiscriminate avuse upon all who hold pubiie office under tue present city government.” “Tus condiuon of things is sumewiat anomalous, is it nour? “Well, I can’t say that it is; and yet it probably | May seem so to the public. Why, every yeur, for many years past, there has been @ provision in’ the tax levy like ihat in the Two Per Cent bill, limitin; expenditures to actual appropriations, and yet believe i¢ has siways been the custom in all the de- partments where one fund allowed lor a pur- pose of absolute public necessity gave out moueys would be wihdrawn from some other | account, or borrowed im some way, aud used, ‘the next tax levy would then supply this amouat asadeticiency. So you will find in almost every tax levy for many years past an item of deficiency tor pr aeriagag | Central Park under the former Commission. The laws governing the Park only allowed $300,000 per annum for this purpose, hut the Commissioners always exceeded tt by drawing the mouey srom some otuer account im tueir hands, Just the sume as we have done, and which was re- patd as we expect to repay our deficiency. Last year, notwithstanding the great drought and the Light Hour law and our giving music and fireworks, our maintenance expense of Central Park only amounted to about three hundred and thirty-two thousand dol- Jars, But we pincued and economized im every Way, | and Tdon’t thins we cowa doitagain, We have not been avie to do it this year, owing to the neces- sary increase of police and gardeners. Our defi- clency Of $33,000 stil rematus to be provided for.’ sane otter departments amected im this 1aD- “Yes, al) of them, more or less, and ff they are held to @ strict compliance with the 1aws a8 ex- ye by the Comptroiier we must disband our ‘ire Department, 4 Suppose, and, indeed, our entire city government. “ Bul cannot every such dificuity be avoided if all are disposed to act larmouiously and for the general good of the city?’ “Oh, certainly; and that is what will be done, I Suppose, as B0On as the coming election is over. Unt then ecopomy and retrenchment, accom- padied by abuse of officials, will be the topica of e hour. After that the abuse will fail of, and I think it will be discovernd that retrenchment in ublig aft O improvemenwa needed ID OUT gre umes ucither wisdom or economy. ete “One ot re there any men on your payrolls t rk, as Charged?’ “Not 0° ‘ of returns and checks ot yarious k the possibility of sucn a fraud bei aus.” Thankt ‘ for his courtesy and for the very ation he gad communi Gated, W stew, the Judge and the reporter proceeded to business, as | John Foley Breasting the Rising Waves of Tammany. A Great Prophet in His Own County. WHAT WAS, IS AND NOT TO BE. A reportorial dove of the HEKALD, of innocent aspect and gentle bearing, flew into the golden cage of the meek reformer, John Foley, yester- day at three o'clock. Mr. Foley was veay busy and had a large number of letters concerning mu- nicipal affairs spread before him on his desk. He looked well and said he intended to keep well untt the Famous Four were in State Prison, He was greatly run down, he confessed, but he would stand the pressure until the great object he had set before him was attained. The THIBVES HAD MADE LITTLE OF HIM | through the press; the press ultimately would make much of him and little of them. Mr. Foley then squared himself for an interview. He knew he was in for it, The following conversation occurred be- tween Mr. Foley and the HERALD reporter:— “Will you be 0 kind,” asked the reporter, ‘“‘as to state for the HERALD the effect and advantages of the injunction +” “Why, sir, it compels the ‘Ring’ robbers to obey thelr own act—known ag the Two Per Cent law— which restricts the expenditures of the city and county governments to twenty million dollars per annum for 1871 and 1872; whereas they were going on spending at the rate of sixty millions a year. My injunction puts an end to all their frauds, forces compliance with the Two Per Cent law, and thus saves upwards of FORTY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS to the taxpayers of this city, Besides, it gave us Possession of the Comptroller’s ofice and virtuauy ended the Ring. My injunction has proved the greatest success ever obiained against these men.” “You have a motive, Mr. Foley?” “For two years, sir,1 have been known as the most outspoken and persistent enemy of the Ring. For a long time I have stood almost alone, and de- nounced the swindiers when no one else would dare attack them. Look at my speech, published in the Heratp October 8, 1869, to Mayor Hall when he in- vited the committee of 186 Citizoiid aha myself to confer with him in the Governor's Room, in the City Hall, In that speech I clearly indicated what was coming when I said to Mayor Hall, among other things, ‘that the time may be near at hand when the people of New York will have to look into and demand a strict account of the $30,000,000 said to be spent annually to carry on the city government, and the four or nve gentiemen constituting the Tam- many Ring must understand once for all that if the People do look on quietly and observe them accumu- late millions of money that they call their own, that SOME CONSIDERATION 18 DUB to the people.’ ‘This wus the first great pubiie crack the Ring got. L rather think Mr, Hall has found my prenicn jon pretty well Veritied. “You were a meuiver of the ‘old’ Board of Super> visors, and are prejudiced against the Mayor?’ “Yes, In October, 1869, several bankers and merchants offered to pay my assessment of five 1 thousand dollars, if I would consent to run ior that Ofiice, and agree to break uP, that corrupt board or to stop the frauds. ‘fo tnis I at once consented, ana acard was published, signed by a large number of Tespectable citizens, urging my nomination, and I was elected Supervisor.’’ “And did us Su, or Hall gave my seat to Henry Smith me to Contest my election before tho Fe oer and finaily in the courts, when, after @ desperate fight against all the power of the ‘Ring,’ I finally got possession of my seat May 25, 1870. Finding they coula not manage the /rauds while I was in the bvard they came to my terms and aoolished the corrupt concern July 1, 1870. This was ‘MY FIRST GREAT VICTORY over the ‘Ring.’ While in the Board I saw enough to convince me that great frauds were being com- Mitted, so I determimed to continue the contest, knowing that sooner or later the thieves would te forced to give up the plunder. I have my reward how, being the chief meuns of oreakmg up the ‘Ring.’’ win your judgment, Mr. Foley, what 13 the best way to adjust this whole dimculty ?”" “These men should a at once. ‘The people are unanimous for this. We could elect their suc- cessor next month. If they will not, they, and all their disuonest followers will be turned out next January by the Legislature; it Is ouly a question of @ few weeks. Go they must—that Is settied.”” “What effect will ail this troubie have upon the democratic party in this State, in your opinion?’ “Uniess these ‘Ring’ mea are forced to retire our party is ruined, not only in this State but in the whole country. No party ever existed that could afiord to carry such a corrupt set of men as com. prises the Tammany Hall ‘Ring.’ History cannot Produce such A SHAMELESS SET OF SWINDLERS, The State senate will expel Tweed if he ts re- turned as the successiul candiaate of the Fourth dis- trict, and by that time Tammany Hall will be TRANSVERRED TO SING SING PRISON.” “Suppose Judge Barnard modities or vacates the Injunction, what then?” “judge Barnard is one of the most honest and up- right judges on the bench. He is always with the people, I am satisfied he will protect us in this contest. He recognizes the ‘'wo Per Cent act, which provides just two lawful means of revenue— taxation and assessment bords—and no other bonds can be lawfully issued; that is settled. Now, then, over thirty millions was ed luto the city treasury for the frst seven months of this year, all of which has been paid out to the Ring swinulers for fraudu- lent bills and other expenses. This 1s why no money 4s leit to pay the henest workingmen.” “Then you are in favor of paying the laborers now :? “Yes, We made a special provision in the injunc- j tion order that all workmen shouid be paid, but as the ‘Ring’ robbers stole all the $30,000,000 in seven eae no money was 1ound by Mr. Green to pay with. THE POOR SUFFER MOST at the hands of the Tammany Ring. A few years a; comiortable rooms could be rented by a poor family for $4 a month; now $20 18 charged, hence it is 80 many poor families are forced into cellars and attics with their dear little children, while nothing short of marble stables with French plate mirrors, Whi satisfy the Ring managers for their horses. It 1s almost impossibie fora poor man to live in this city because of the frauds and excessive taxation of the Ring. SLIGHTLY COMMUNICATIVE. Tam In favor of paying ail workmen $3 a day in- Stead of $2, and as soon as We get clear of these Ring swinolers and their irauds we can afford to do 80. 4 will certainly go for such a measure.”’ “That's shrewd, but not applicable,” “Were you alarmed at tie report in the ‘Ring? newspaper about the mob to burn your house and that of the foreign reformer?” “Not atall, Why should I? Iam the best friend of the workingman. Not one of them could be found to injure me.” “Wouldn’t you like to be Coroner, Mr. Foley, on the workingien’s ticket”? “T have no feeling personally against any of these men individually. On the contrary, they have gen- erally compited with my wishes; when they did not and when Iifclt the pubilc interest demanded it, if compelled them to behave themselves, They put me to a great expense and an immense amount of trouble; bat | was JUST THR MAN FOR THE OCCASION; at any rate, 1 am satisiled with the result as it now stands,’ “Mr. Foley you are a tremendous fellow.” CURIOUS HOW FUNNY AND MONEY RHYME, “The city owes yousome money #” “Yes. [never got one doliar of my salary as Su. pervisor and costs of litigation—in al several thou- sand dollars, “You aided in putting Mr. Green in the Comptrol- ler’s office +"? “My injunction virtnally put him in, Mr, Green is thoroughiy capable and honest, and while there the peopie may well feel satisfied that no more iraudulent warrants can be signed.” “Any new suits to be commenced ? “Yes, You may Lell the people for me that 1 SHALL NEVER STOP until the Ring swindlers are entirely overthrown and the stolen money Is returned to the city. My counsel are now at work, and in afew days} will have an action that will prove as great and as important a success as my injunction sult.’ “Well, how, alter all this, let us have an under. standing. Who are the huinougs in this business?” “I ike frankness. Interested persons may call me an idiot, &® humbug—whatever they like—but mind you, sir, I will carry my point, and we shall shortly have an honest government 1n this city—a overnment which will aid and protect taxpayers stead of robbing them.” “What office shall I say you aspire to?” asked the reporter. “Damn the offices !"’ thundered Mr. Foley. “Damn the offices!’ whispered the representa- tive of the HmRAaLp. And 80 the conversation ended, and the great Foley resumed his work. BASE BALL NOTES, ‘The game announced to take place to-day between the Mutuals and Stars has been postponed, so as to allow the latter club to the Aitnas of Chi- 0 on the Capitoline grounds. oa nday the Bostons acd the Mutuals on tho Union grounds. This will be the last and deciding \ game Of the aerieg botweeu tuege LwWO Clubiy An Exciting Boat Race in the Har- bor of Spezztia, Italy. The Boats of Two American Vessele-of-War the Contestants—Victory Declared for the Guerriere’s Barge. UNITED States SHiP SHMNANPOAL, } SPEzz1A, Italy, Sept. 12, 1871. Competition among men to acquire a particular excellence, whether 1 be in trade, at games or in professions, is one of the ruling characteristics of the human race, and within due bounds and under proper restraints it deserves to be encouraged— all the more 80 when the struggle for the mastery can injure no one, can impoverish no one, and, in certain respects, improves the competing partic. About the time the news reached Europe of the Making and maturing of the great international race on the Kennebecasis, which had such a melan- choly ending for the Tyne crew, the European squadron of American war vessels rendezvoused at Spezzia, in Italy. The ships were the flagship Frank- ln, the Richmond, the Guerriere, the Shenandoah, the Plymouth and the Saco, With the collection tu- gether of as many as perhaps eighteen hundred sailor meu, whose natural tastes incline them to aquatic sports, it 1s not at ali singular that a strong interest was felt in the proceedings, and that imita- tion should be attempted. The Saco arrived in the aquadron flushed with @ recent victory achieved at Malaga over the boat of the British man-of-war Lea, and brought the living trophy—a live chicken cock — with her, the race having been between the launches of the respective ships, she owned, in addition, a very fast whale boat, pulling twelve oars, an of which the crew were justly proud. It 1s astonisbing how soon the news of a fast craft comes to the knowledge of the men of the different ships, and no sooner does the intelligence spread and have time tobe duly commented upon in the forecastie than they debate among themseives the possibility of a race. Soon there will appear a small deputation at the mast, who will, through a spokesman, respect- fully request permission trom the proper authority to contend with the boat under consideration. In most cases this permiasion is granted, partly 88 @ most excellent way to encourage and keep up the vim of the crew, and partly as the easlest mode of settling the diMiculty; for the men will never rest quietly until the superiority of one or other boat be decided. 3 Itig. somewhat amusing to note the peculiar be- havior of the Grew of the rival and of tue other ships when the terms of a race are about am be. ranged, or when one ta trying to bé got on. For the men it ts one of the gréat évents of the cruise, equal to pay day, and almost equal to tho hoisting of the homeward bound pennant. The merits of the boats are subjected to a sailor-like criticism; wise and sententious opinions are weightily deliv. ered irom the iorecastle as the practising boats take their evening spurt. Spies often track them, watches im bana, to gain some idea of their time. Nor are sublertuges Wanting on the other side to deieat this cunning manwuyre. Singularly enough, the most important rt of the whole arrange- ment—namely, the ting powers of the crew— is entirely overiookea by the sailor man. The idea of exhaustion on a raco is about the last calculation on the result that engrosses his attention, and it 13 On thts accoyut that the termination of a race 13 sometimes s0 unexpected and disconcerting—far more 80 than among the professional crews, who, whether vanquishers or vanquished, generaUy pull to the finish in tolerable order. The Guerriere, since she has been in dock for re- Pt has allowed considerable libercy to her mea; and, loitering ly at the landing, these were not long in picking up these crumbs o! news con- cerning this tormidable boat and crew of the Saco, She had a barge, pulling iourteen oars, in whicn they nad an idea they could contend with the Saco’s boat, and perhaps, if well drilled, successfully. The news was not very long 1 spreading through the Squadron, and vy this means reached the ears of the Saco’s men. ‘rhe seed thus sown was quickly productive of its and before many days the terms of a race were arranged an Upon between the boais and crews of the respective ships. The stakes were at first not very large, but us the excitement increased and as the men acquired greater conii- dence after witnessing tne performances of their favorites, each one who had a sum of money at nis disposal—and this meant nearly every one— placed his stake im the hands of the stakeholder. And as perhaps as many as five hundred men were betting the sum rapidly increased, so that the com- bined amount the day before the races reached the sum of 5,080 francs, The Saco’s whale boat is @ beauty, and dances as lightly as a feather on the water. In length it is 30 feet 2 inches, in beam 6 feet 5 inches and in weignt about 1,500 poanas. She pulls twelve oars, double banked, and carries @ coxswain. Tne names of her crew are as follows:—Michael McDonald, captain maintop; Thomas Lyons, boatewain’s mate; August surraid, George Thompson, Louls Will Martin Peterson, Uif Porlson, Willard Kelton and Edward Lienes, seamen; James Farrell, extra; Hans Johnson and Edward Hammond, ordinary seamen, ‘The coxswain is Wm. C. King, chief boatswain’s Taate, who enjoys the enviable reputation of having steered and won twenty-one races out of twenty- three, ° The Guerriere'’s harge is alarger boat, pullin; fourteen oars, doubie banked; “in weight about 2,200 pounds, in beam 7 feet 2 inches, and in lengta 82feet. The names of her crew are as follows:— John O'Brien, seaman; Patrick Douse, quartermas- ter; Edward Kotcher, seaman; George Derrick ap. lain maintop; Thomas Crojb, seaman; Richard Hana, rennin hold; Edward Robinson, sea- man; erick §=Seedsman, coxswain; Frank Kelly, seaman; Robert Adair, ordinary sea- man; Paul Saenger, Alfred Brooks, Peter Smith and Charies W. George, seamen. She had tor her coxswain John Turner, chiet beats. wain’s Mate, whose former exploits in this itue are unknown. The draught of the barge, with her crew, ts 12inches forward and 15 inches aft. The distance to be rowed was a straight race of four miles, the finish was to be at the Franklin, and Lieutenant Commander 8, P. Glilette, Uaited States ney attached to the dagsuip, was selected as um- re, ‘The day of the race was beautiful, and the water was im that fine condition which always ap- pears when there 1s little or no wind to disturb its smoothness, But such was the excitement and eathustasm of the men that it is likely that the race would have come off had rain fallen in torrents, No congregation at the Derby was ever more agog, or manifested more mterest in the termination of ‘the event, than the crews of the rival ships, and the iniection spread rapidly through the squadron, By permission, about two hundred of the Guerriere’s men were allowed to go on board of the Richmond (which was anchored well out) to witness tne race, and long before the boat started the rigging and tops of every American war vessel in tie harbor were thronged with the men who had climbed aloft Me better to see the contest, To save the race crews the boats were towed to the starting buoy, four miles out the bay, by steam launches, and this arrangement made as was before indicated, the race a straight one— ending at the Frankl ror half an hour alter the tug had left all was flutter d busile. A subdued buzzing sound pervaded the ships, similar to that made by a swarm of bees, subsiding gradually to @ profound silence, The excitement had now me partially subdued; for the distance was so great that no one could distinguish when the boats got into position and started. But those at that end of the course ar- ranged everything satisfactorily, and at exactiy hatt-past four P, M, the boats got away, followed at @ proper distance by the steam launches, The start was even, good and fair, but in a few minutes the barge drew slowly ahead with a tre- mendons stroke of forty to the minute, and this rate Was actually maintained antil near the finish. Tne Saco’s crew labored under the disadvantage of having one of their number just from the sick list a day or two previous, he having been admitted with an attack of diarrhoea, Another one also was not well; from what cause is not known, This must have had some effect on theit pace; but other infu- ences were at work also. The barge crew was in fine condition, and pulled a splendid, slashing stroke, The boas, too, responded elegantly, and took the water wel!, whereas the whaler showed a dispo- sition to bury herself. Sul, the alter boat stuck to her work, and did— as all should do—the best she could; but the barge drew ahead imperceptibly from the start, until at the last mile she must have represented to those de- ring Sacos astern a series of dissolving views, for she was good twenty seconds ahead, ‘The two crews could not be seen plainly from the Mastheads, and it became impossible to predict with certainty the result of the race. The men on the Saco (she was anchored fartnest out, and could see sooner than the rest) were observed to steal silentiy one by one down the rigging, without any manifes- tation whatever, being more than satisfied they could glut thetr curios! ey quite well enough from the deck, This was in {tsel{ ao ominous sign, and had not been observed for more than a minute when the men on the Richmond, who noted it, and who Pwd saw Aeed the Ln ee Eo) ‘ope Bred upon cheer, So encouraged, again, and the Saco made—Marmion-like—one last effort, but without avail. ‘The cheering infection spread from ship to ship, ‘until tne Prhote harbor af eek Sorte shoes bur ren lent, and had no such ¢: On the flag- ship order was kept, as it wasthere the umpire was stationed, ry ad neesesery, | As shed that not ing save & mniraste cow prevent her winning. she pulled to the finish in 27m, 648. amid the hearty cheers of iy the whole Le age the shrill blasta of the steam whisties, and a perfect ‘Whirl Of excitement generally, Aad With & (OleravLy lial ciasenccneiepiniataees fresh crew. ‘The time of the whalenoat was not aaeaed a pie betoce Be was tired anes, score ‘winner she tarned and stecred for her own Ic ts @ good maxim in affairs of this sort to win without exultation, and to lose with complacency. The first part of this proposition was undoubtedly broken, for the Guerriere’s officers and crew) were jubilant over the result, But some consideration 13 due to the losers, for they did their nest, and this te always conducive toa good race, What was in the crew and boat was brought out, afd. although the Guerriere’s crew won, and won handsomely, they worked to dp it, So it is not fair nor just to laugh at their late opponents. The chicken cock, thelr emblem of victory, wrested from the Englishman, ts their great loss. It now goes to tue Guerrterre; but for how long who shall say? for the Shengndoah Nas eitdel up, her 10iNs for the strife and scents the batile afar off. too, has a boat, and a crew dikewise: and with a boldness and audacity unparalieled—whether mis. taken or not-is to be tried—has ehallenged these mighty men of Guerriere-dom to give her an aquatic battle. How it will terminate you shall hear. THE JERSEY INSURANCE FRAUDS. Trial and Acquittnl of Lewis L. Todd in the United States Court at Trenton. The case of Lewis L. Todd was continued all day yesterday. The charge is with secreting $50,000 worth of securities said to belong to the Firemen’a Insurance Company of Jersey City. ‘Witness testified in his own vehalf, and safd-that he bought the stock of a Mr. Chadwick, who is now in the Penitentiary, for two per cent, and that he | sold $12,500 in represented value to James Wilson for $5,000, which he took in mortgages, and that WIt- son was to be presiaent of the company. at a salary | of $1,800 year. He said Wilson knew there wera no assets; that money should be put in to make it a good company, and that after Wilson became Preste ' dent he (Todd) knew little of the affairs. He waa treasurer, but he never haa any funds in hand, for the demands were grearer than the income. He ad- mitted that the dnancial statement of the ' company, which “was printed and circulated, was all a tissue of lies, and that there was no capital to work with. He accounted for the fact that a bank book from Bradsord’s bank in New | York was in the office by stating that he had told Mr. Bradiord the company would keep their account there. Mr. Bradford had one share assigned him, and after the conversation the bank book and checka were sent over. 16.was Wilson who had throvn tue company into bankruptcy—Wilson who had visited him in Ludlow Street: Jail, and also since’ ine was held through want of bail, and had-toid him, he had better settle, or he might get three years, a3 he was Tuk ONLY BULLDOG on th? track, Todd admitted that though he: knew the representation was [aise aa to the state of the company he took no action to te Aae Lae He said he bad peen at one tine ti thé whiskey business, and owed & min haiiied Hayward $4,009, which he paid nuu with the proceeds of the sale of repent. on Fifty-fourch and Filty-fifth streets, New Yor . It was evident the mortgages for $5,000 were out of reach. They had gone in & singular manner, but pe ata neae tuat Hayward got $9,000 for the! , ALi eard since that the mortgages: were foreclosed, ‘The whole revelation showed that the company vas ®@ bogus concern, and that Chadwick m the first in- ad puen ‘todd, were the moying ppulit and that Wi son Was caught, by the great bait held out— $12,500 worth of stock for $6,000 and a salary of $1,800 as Presiden a ‘Tne case was given to the jury in the afternoon, and ‘Todd was acquitted, THE POST OFFICE BOX “EXTORTION. Sixteen Dollars per Anzam Cunrged for a Letter Bex, but Who Is lesponsiblce— Geoeral Jones Acting Under Lastructions. For some tline past @ great many complaints have been made by persons throughout tho etty in regard to whal they are pleased to designate as the *giar- ing outrage’ which Postmaster Jones 1s, perpetrat- ing upon the business men of the metropolis by increasing the yearly rental of letter boxes from twelve to sixteen dollars, Several persons | bave written to the HERALD iu regard to the matter, all of them urging this journal to expose the ‘fraud,’" the “outrage upon the people,” or the ‘dastardly imposition.” As it is now, and ever has beety the Hekaup's desire and determination to protect the masses against fraud or extortion of every kind, one of its representatives was despatched to THE RICKETY OLD STRUCTURE an Nassau street with inssructions to tavestigate the whole affair, and if anything wrong was discovered to expose It iu no measured terms, But nothing wrong was discovered, at least go far as the city. Post Office is concerned. Cailing on General Jones, the Postmaster, an stating the nature of his busi- ness, the reporter was Kindly recetved and shown every facility for the obtainance of the desired infor- mation. The General said it was trus’ that the yearly rental of the boxes had veen increased to Sixteen dollars per annum, “But,” said he, ‘(nat is @ matter over which I have no control whatever, further than the carrying out of the orders issued by the aeparsment at Washing ian: If you will accom- pany me! will show you thro: THE BOX DEPARTMENT, and we will see Colonel Hopper, the Saverintendent, who will be able to impart to you whatever intor- mation you may wish.” Accordingly the General led the way through a side door, down a duapi- dated palr of old stairs, to the main floor, on the , Cedar street side of the building, where about forty men were busily engaged assorting and distriouting letters and papers. “Now, this ts tae box department, and here is Colonel Hopper,” satd the affable General. Colonei Hopper expressed himself as only too happy to explain matters to the reporter, “Yes,” said he, ‘‘we have, as you say, increased: the rents of the boxes, and here are our - INSTRUCTIONS FROM WASHINGTON in relation to the matter;’’ the Colonel handing to the HERALD representative as he spoke the follow ing cireular:— Post Orrick Dmrantuent, WasmtNaTon, Dec. 23, 1870. StR—You are hereby authorized and directed to increase , the rent of the boxes in your fice to $16.4 year, to take effect on and after January 1, 1871. This increase 1s ordered to meet the expenses of the ‘box department in your ofice, Very respecttully, J. W. MARSHALL, Pirst Assistant Postmaster Gencral. To General P, H. Jonze, Postmaster, New York, N. “You will readily understand by that,’ re- Marked Colonei Hopper to the reporter, “that while we collect $16 a year for tne rent of @ box, we. oursel are in no way re- sponsible for its being charged. Although ting tn- crease was ordered ‘to meet the expenses ot the box department’ of this ofiice, 1¢ does not accom- Plish its object fally; for I assure you this branciy of the office is very expensive indeed. Why,” con- Unued he, ‘we have seventy-elght men working here night and day the year round, besides which we send men out to Hartford and to Philadelphia every night to meet the incoming mail and assort it, aa far as possible, before it reaches here, Tas and many other things in connection with the depart- ment make it, as I have said, very expensive, and this expense ts not fully covered even by THE INCREASED BOX RENTS.” “low Many boxes have you here?’ inquired the Teporier, “We have about 5,050 in all, and these at $16 per annum, provided they are all rented throughout the whole year, make an tacome to tue department of @ lite over $80,000."" Feeling assured that the ‘fraud,’’ “the dastardly Imposition,” or whatever other appellation it mighé be designated by, was not being perpetrated by the city Post Ofice oMetals without full authority from Washington, the HERALD reporter bade the two dis-_ tinguished oilicials “good day” and took his der parture. WIFE MURDER IN NEWTOWN. A Horrible Case of Domestic Barbarity—The Murderer, Beastly Drunk, Lying Beside His | Dend Victim. Yesterday some of the inmates of a tenement house located in Newtown, on Jamaica avenue, broke open the door of one of the upper apartments On suspicion that all was not right. For three daya no one had been seen to pass in or out and the last heard was cries for help. A most horrible and sick- ening sight presented itself. Gpon the bed was the corpse of Anna Wagner; beside it lay the husband tn a drunken stupor. The Coroner was tmmediately notified and on his arrival, about noon, ers was found undisturbed. The man stl! Jay pee je nis vicum, and nothing could arouse hi @ body of the woman was most shockingly mutilated, tha head broken in with some blunt instrument and bruises on almost every gets of the body. It was evident that the crime veen committed a num- ber of days previous, as decomposition had already taken place. Coroner Tewksvery summoned @ jury, and from the testimony of some princi witnesses the following facts were ascertaine The husband is & German. His name is Oharies _ Wagner. wife is of Irish descent. They have never lived very harmoniously, he being addicted to drink, often returning home late at night under the influence of liqvor, at which times there would generally be a violent quarrel. On Tuesday he returned home and seemed to be more drunk than usual. After retiring the quarrel ‘was kept up, and blows were disunctly heard. During the inquest the murderer lay on the floor, occasional muttering some unintelligible words, and entirely unconscious of the surroun verdict of death by vio sence at the hands of Charles Wagner, the husband of deceased, was rendered by the jury, and Coroner Tewksbery ordered uis arreath 7 DROUGHT IN THE WEST. CHICAao, Oct, 6, 1871. The drought now prevailing in the Westghas not been equalicd within tne paat twenty five years. All through Central and Souu Tinnola the wella and small streams are completely dried up, aud the inhabitants find great dimeulty in obtal i aum- olent water for fie household and stock. The sott ig 40 dry that ploughing ts rendered impossipie. Tae Aroumlt CKeNdy Custer MOKtL aud (oe Wucomsline ‘ , s f | j i ’