The New York Herald Newspaper, September 19, 1871, Page 3

+ Ovet the Comptrolletship. Connolly and Green Stil) in Possession: _ : OC e = a Mayor Hal] Refuses to Recognize Either Connolly or Green—The Depart- ments Notified, THARLES O'CONOR ON THE SITUATION, “Boss” Tweed Interviewed—He Will Not Fight Windmills, bat Wil Specific Charges. CONNOLLY’S LETTER TO MAYOR HALL. “The Committee of Seventy"—A Chat “About Things in General’? With the Members Thereof. A Reward for the Vanished Vouchers. The Feeling Throughout the City—What is Thought of the Great Muddle at the Pub- lic Offices, in Financial Circles and by the People. ANDY GARVEY INDIGNANT. Never was there such universal excitement unac- companied by some monster demonstration as pre- yalled yesterday in this excitable clty of New York. ‘The quietude of the Sabbath served as the caim be- fore the storm. All day on Sunday the people, struck with astonishment at the nfove made by Comptroller Connolly in the appointment of Andrew Hi. Green as deputy, with full power, were lost in ‘wonderment as to what would be the next move on the part of the contestants, The anxiety ‘was 80 great that people rose unusually early yesterday and rushed to the newspapers for information and reilef. The move made by Comptroller Connolly was startling, indeed, but_no Jess 80 was that contemplated by Mayor Hall, as an- nounced in the letter to Mr. Connolly, accepting his resignation, and at the same time removing him, and the letter to General McClellan appotntiug him Comptroller. What will Connolly do now? Will General Mc- Clelian accept? and so on were the questions gene- rally asked, while opponents of the party in power Would say, with a peculiar grin, “19's A VERY PRETTY QUARREL as It stands.” As the crowds flocked down town the matter was discussed in cars and stages and by the groups of pedestrians wending thelr way to the business centres. A conversation between a few gentlemen in a Broadway car may be taken as a sample of the gen- eral public senument:— : First Gext—James, what do you think of the City Hall squabble now? Szoonp Gunt—You mean the Connolly and McClel- Jan business ? First Gent—Yes. Do you think Little Mac will ‘accept the post? SECOND GENT—I hope not, unless he wants to cut his throat, First Gent—Why? SECOND GENT—Why, the moment he would do such a thing he would be raked jure uua alt. The papers would open on him, and everything he did and everything he didn’t do would be commented on and turned and twisted soas to make him crazy. First GexT—Oh, pshaw! I think he would win, T take it as & most favorable omen the SINGULAR COINCIDENCE of his being notified of his appointment on the an- piversary of the battle of Antietam. He raised thunder tnen, you know, and I guess he can do it again, SECOND GENT—Yes, but do you suppose he is Buch a fool as to come in here from New Jersey, and throw himself before the people and the courts, and fight, not only Connolly, but the entire public senti- ment? For, I tell you, no matter whether we think Connolly is & thief or not, he shows pluck, and makes &@ pretence at the least of being in earnest and court- ing an investigation. First GENT—Don’t you suppose Hall aud Tweed are as bad as Connolly ? SECOND GenT—I don’t hear anything but good about Tweed. I don’t know; he seems to be mighty Popular everywhere. People who had not in years or months, if ever, stopped at the new Court House and helped to Swell the throng that choked the passage ways of the gorgeous tomb. RUMORS few thick and fast, on all sides, One of the first started and sent around with marvellous rapidity and with addendas and alterations such as the old “three black crow” story never could touch Was this:—That Mayor Hall came down to the oftice, ‘was fearfully excited because he had not heard from McClellan; that he wrote @ couple of letters and then commenced upsesting things; throwing his books and papers around in frightful confusion, and that the convictioz forced itself upon the attachés that ‘THE MAYOR HAD GONE CRAzy. Another was, that he was seen leaving the build- Jog where the offices of the Department of Docks are located with his coat and hat off; that he rushed (o a coach and ordered the Jehu to drive him to hell, or any place he pleased. These stories, of course, eaded in a laugh, and only tended to show that, v0 matter how serious may be the occasion of agochering, there 1s always a tendency to joke or je in a New York crowa, HAS M’CLELLAN ACCEPTED? was the all-absorbing question, and, being all- absorbing, novody could answer It sausfactorily. ‘The rumor came about three o'clock that he had ac- cepted and would appear in the court and immedi- ately suc out a quo warranto or @ mandamus. ‘Then there were curses and comments from the gangs congregated in and around the Court House that would grate harshly on anybody's ear to near, Jt was generally understood, however, that McClel- lan would not accept the position as long as Connolly showed an inclination to hold on to it. AS Connolly has shown that disposition in a most unmistakable way it is safe to conclude that McClellan has not accepted and will not accept, more especially now as Connolly has obtained the endorsement of such advisers as Charles O’Conor, Samuel J. vilden, Barrett, Sr., the uncle; Barrett, Jr., the nepbew; Rufus Andrews, Sam Courtenay, Mr. Beach and others, There may be a@ littie lull to- day, but nobody can tell in these troublous times What even an hour may bring forth, GBNERAL MCLELLAN DECLINES THE COMPTROI- LERSHIP. General Geo. B, McClellan has declined to acccept the Bomptrollership so long as the present order of ‘things continues, because his acceptance now would place him in’ the position of a contestant for the omee, AT THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. Connolly and Green in Full Ronssession—No Evidence of Any Attempt to Quat Them— Letter of Connolly to Maycr HaY—Ho Will Not be Dismissed=Opinion of Charles O’Conor, ‘The Comptroller's oMG2 was, of course, the centred | of attraction dpring yesterday, Early inthe moruwe | NEW YORK HERALD, TUESDAY, SEP Growas OF mers asger‘ioled tn and arouna tne hall- ways and door ‘eading to the Comptroller's offices. aon ber’ofi going in was commented on, and any ~-s0h wearing anything like a military aspect or ing short enough to be considered “little” was scanned and commented on, The clerks went in 4NQ took their posts as usual, but they generally rome Ast? Veen” ana took Storrs returned “5 former posiuvis. He looked rather ™\e, County Auditor Lynes leoked iifue, “gue veteran Kellogg looked somewhat ‘vm. ‘The blue curtains on the windows were down, and that, perhaps, accounted for a general Diueness pervading the offices and giving rise to the idea that 1t was A BLUE MONDAY INDEED for the “boys” in the Department of Finance. Char- ley O'Connell was the brightest looking one in the whole place. He had a nice shiny hat on, and had his beard trimmed in most artistic style, At about eight o’clock the Comptroller made his appearance, smiling and bright looking as @ pleasant summer morning. He bowed to the attachés as he went in, smiled at the crowds, squeezed the end of a short cigar between his teeth and passed along to his inner ofMce, Presently there came the newly ap- pointed Deputy GREEN, APPEARING THROUGH THE BLUENESS. Ashe was known to but few of those present he went in without being particularly noticed, and was soon closeted with the Comptroller, When it be- came known that the new Deputy was on hand there ‘was a general stir, but no appearance of General McClellan. Some favored members of the St. Pat- rick’s Alliance were on hand, and it was rumored thatthe nevessary proceedings hed bos taken to issue and serve A MANDAMUS on Connolly and Green. The two genviemen then went through the offices and departments, Green examining cursorily the books and documents, and occasionally sending one or other by a trusty mes- senger to the room in which 1s 10 be located, He commenced immediately to make extra precautions against any burglary or TAMPERING WHH THE SAFES by setting a new combination on each of the locks in the safes in the offices. This done, the work of studying up the details of the aepartment was commenced, Presently callers commenced to arrive. The passage ways were crowded with newspaper men and others attracted by the chances of A SCRIMMAGE, “Silk Stocking Sammy’? Tilden and Chairman Havemeyer called shortly before noon, and, it is said, assurea the Comptroller that they were “with him right through.”” Havemeyer told him, it is said, that they could assure him that the bankers, brok- ers and leading business men down town would go with him and furnish him with . MONEY ENOUGH to carry on the government for three years. They would recognize any warrrnt drawn by Connolly or Green and take the chances to have the action legalized. The Comptroller bad preparea a letter im reply to the letter from Mayvur Hall, and this he submitted to the gentlemen. They approved of It, and it was shortly afterwards sent across to the Mayor's office, but returned, as Cmef Clerk Jone nad refused to receive it. knortly after a delega- tion, consisting of Mr. Barrett, Sr., THE UNOLE OF HIS NEPREW; Mr. Barrett, Jr. (the Judge), the nephew or his uncle, and another gentleman called on behalf of the Foley Committee, and desired to see the Comj- troller and Mr. Green. Mr. Barrett, Sr. had n> card, 80 he took a slip of foolscap paper and iu- scribed thereon his mighty name, Mr. Barrett, Jr., tne Judge, was staken by two or three people present for one of the reporters, @ very early riser and a sweet singer, or who should be such, THE SLIP OF FOOLSCAP was sent in by the Sergeant-at-Arms, and the Bar- retts and their companion were soon asked to cross the sacred portals, They crossed, but did not look cross. They seemed quite happy. lt was reported that they reassured Messrs, Connolly and Green that PUBLIC SENTIMENT was with them, at least so much of the public senti- ment as they came in contact with. They did not say that they took care to come iu contact with no opposing “public sentiment.” Mr. Connolly had evidently héard of public sentiment before, as was evident from the letter which he had sent to the Mayor. He submitted to Mr. Barrett, Sr., and Mr. Barrett, Jr. say Judge), & copy of the letter. They approved of it; thought it was just the thing; tnought Mr. Connolly HAD THE MAYOR ON THE HIP, and all that sortof thing. During all this time Rufe Andrews was dancing in and out, big with the fate of Connolly and Green. The outside office was like ® public thoroughfare. The “public”. seemed to be streaming 1n and out, in and out, incessantly; all sorts of people, old and young; they slouched into the rooms, 3 at the clerks behind the counters and di mired YOUNG GARVIN'S MUTTON-CHOP WHISKERS nd Clovoland’s scars; gazed in admiration on tne Cease and pleasant face ot te emer Storrs and the nicely brushed jocks of younger Storrs, and in wonderment at the small way of reporters who lined the passage and wropped themselves against the partitions, like #@ mou, variegated wail flowers. A HERatp reporter called and was ushered Into the private office, while Mr. Barret, Sr., and Mr. bar- relt, Jr. (the Judge), aud the other gent, were in consultation. In a few minutes the cousultation came to @ close, and the reporter INTERVIEWED THE COMPTROLLER, “Mr. Connolly, how do you feel—any way shaky f”” “Not atall; never felt better. Im all right.’ “Do you intend to leave the city? Itis reportea that you are about to go to Europe."? “No, sir, Iam going to stay right here.” (He bronght down his closed fist on his desk, and showed that he meant to be in earnest,) “What do you think about the appointment of General McClellan by tne Mayor ?” “I don’t know what's got into Hall. J have an- swered the letter published in the papers this moru- ing, and I have the best legal aavice in the couniry to back me in my position, Here 1s my answer (handing reporter a letter), I have submitted it to my counsel and to the committees of the citizens, and they approve of it.” The letter is as follows:— ept. 18—11 33) o'Cl A. M.! Hon. A, OARRY Hat. Mayor! ee My Dear Sin—I have read in the morning papers only Four letter, of th and beg leave thus promptly to in- ‘orm you that, as ; Lhave not either in fact or equiv- alent resigned’ the oflice of Comptroller of the City of New York. I deny authority ot law in the Mayor to exercise the power attempted by your favor, and in partial support of the former communivation :~"T id any head of department, not even pending an investigation. Lean only prefer charges to the Common Pleas, who alone c.n remove, after a ccnsider- able time for trial.” My previously announced determination not at retire from oficial position J4 siti! unchanged. ointment of Andrew H. Green, as Deputy Comptrol: jer I have endeavored to guard the public interest committed to my care, In such effort, while calling critical attention to the events of the past forty: ight hours, including your oii- cial acts and my own, I ask the support of that supreme power, the public sentiment of the citizens of New Yor and of the State. Very respectfully, your obedient servant, RICHARD B, CONNOLLY, Comptrotler. Mr. Connolly, continuing, said, “Charles O’Conor 4s writing out an opinion, and it will be ready in an hour or two. You wiil find tnat I am fully endorsed in the stand I have taken.” “Will Mr. Green have charge of the affairs of the office, as intimated in your correspondence with Mr, Havemeyer and Mr. Green?” fe will have charge, certainly, when I am not resent to y the ap. hat about be organizing 7” “Tdon't know. I whl have enough to do here without bothering about outside combinations, for @ while at any rate.’? “Business will be at a standstill, won’t it, if the Mayor won't sign any of your warrants?’ “On, we'll get going afier a while. THB PEOPLE ON THE PAY ROLLS will have to wait. It will come around all right. The banks will sustain me, and I think there wil ve money enough.” This ended the interview, as Mr. Connolly was called away to attend to another interviewer. Mr. Green sat at the desk in & small room immediately adjoining the Comptroller's private room, and on beig questioned stated briefy that he haa’ not got fairly started, but that lhe was getting into harness as quickly as possible. Early in the afternoon Judge Ledwith and a dele- gation trom tie Young Democracy calted and asked to be admitted. There wasa general rush ana com- motion on the stairs and among the crowd in the haliways when it was known that LEDWITH WAS PRESENT, and a generul etiort was made by those farthest away to get a giimpse athis face, He passed in and had a very friendly chat with the parites in posses- sion. What the purport or result of tnis consulta- tion was did not transpire, but the visitors lefe the mighty presence evidenily well pleased with thetr visit. Thus it continued throughout the day, without much change in the programme. The’ attachés occasionally broached the question, “Has Mevlellan accepted the Mayor’s appointment? The answers were, of course, conflicung. At one time he had and at another time he had not. In the course of the afternoon the OPINION OF CHARLES O'CONGR, re forwarded to the Comptroller, and is as fol- OWS — ‘The twenty-ninth section of the act to reorganize the jocal government of tie city of New York passed April 6, 1870, commonly calied the new charter, provides as follows:— All the heads of departments * * ex ments of finance and law, aiall be ‘appointed hy the Weare as hereinafter provide |, ‘Any provision of the law giving to the Governor power to reno y olicer of the eit novern ment referred to in this act 18 hereby repealed. The Common Counel! shall buve the power of Impeachment of the Muyot by resointion of two-thirds Of all the members elected in exch li have the power of impeaching all the new combination that is said to hoard. The Mayor si heaan of departm ents, The Comptroller of the city of New York is py the same Oo Thy to be the head of the Finance De- partment. . The thirty-first section of an amendatory act, passed on the 26th of the same month, provided that eibe Combproier of the city of New York shal) heres after be appointed by the Mayor elected for sald city, and not by an acting Mayor, as other heads of de. partments are appvinted under the provisions of the act enutled ‘An act to reorganize the local gov- sea of the rev ¢ of New York,’ passed April 5, , and shall hot his ofice for the period of four 8 NOW Proved, ¢ ene nig Appointed’ urder vita’ GARRY” shai bold nis ofjce wnt the ist day of January, 1875, subject 1 the provisions of the said act. ‘Ihe term of oiilce o: TeseNl COMptrotior of caid ony snall end at the Biblio of five days the rae Acces oe ive wis ‘ne Mayor shall ke the { appointment her¢| rovided for witht He tage thom {lig paste ge of 3 act. Any provision of law iiconsisient with this section 1s Aeren repealers . Richard B, Conndlly wa: cordingly appointed the Mayor in the year 1870; and thereafter by an- amendatory act passed April 18, 1871, 1 was in section 3 provided as follows:— ‘The Comptroller of the city of New York sball appoint and at pleasure remove # Deputy Comptroller. The sald Deputy Comptroller shall, in addition to his other powers, possess every power and perform all and every duty Uelonging to the ofice of Comptroller whenever the said Comptroller shall by due written authority, and during a period to be specitied in auch authority, designate and authorize the sald Deputy Comptroller to’ possess the power und perform the duty aforesaid, and such designation and authority shall be duly filed in ahd remain of record in the Finance Department, The said Deputy Comptroller shall possess the like authority in case of the digability of the Comptroller, upon the like desig- nation of the Mayor, which shall be filed aud remain of re- cord as aforesaid, On the 16thanst. Mr. Connolly made a written ap- pomtment in the following words:— COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Crry oF NEW YoRg, Sept. 16, 1871. Mr, Axpnew H. Gnres :— MY DEAR Sin—The office of Deputy Comptroller of this city having become vacant by the removal of Richard A. Storrs, I erely desiznate and appoint you, Andrew 1. Green, Deputy Comptroiler of the city of New» Yori. 1 earnestly press upon you the acceptance of this ofilee, The critical juncture in the nifalrs of the city aud the condition of public sentiment seem to demand that the impo:tant trans. actions of my departisent should be ucted by Qne possessing, the unilinited eontitence of | the pub. Me, In determining upon the action required by. ti present exigency 1 have been culded by the a f gentlemen whose respectability and prominenc je them above all of untair or in- terested motive. I am en to act with sincere ure it against possible sa ry and phraseology of the statute, Lhereny designate nd authorize you to possess the power and to periorm all and every duty belonging to the ollice of Comptroller of the city of New York trom the time of this appointment to the Ist day of February, 1873. Very respectfully, RICHARD 33. CONNOLLY, Comptroller of the city of New Yo Suggestions have been made that this appoint- ment Of a deputy was a renunciation or resignation of nis omce by the Compiroiler, producing a va- cancy; and, even if no such effect was produced, that the Mayor, as an incident of his appointing power, may remove the Comptroller, thus causing a vacancy Which he might supply. My opinion on these two points has been meu by Mr. Samuel angen chairman of the Democratic State Com- mittee, Ifavacancy could be brought about in any way, bt Or could undoubtediy make an appointment 0 supply it, The appointment of a deputy in precise conform- ity with the letter of the statute and in execution of 1ts obvious intenycannot be a renunciation or resige nation of his ofice by the Comptroiler, It is simply the performance of @ duty enjoined by law whenever necessity or expediency may require It. The neces- sity or expediency of the step is submitted to the discretion of the Comptroller exclusively, I caunot suppose that any jurist can be found wii will think otherwise, The President of the United States is deemed to possess @ general power of removing executive officers appoiuted by him; but Iam very clear that under the statutes regulating the subject the Mayor has no power to remove the Comptroiler. The con- stitution of the United States does not provide for the removal of officers except by impeachment, ‘The power to accuse or impeach Is given, not to the President, but to the House of Representatives ouly; the power to try the accusation or impeachment and remove the accused is given to the Senate, Under the acts constituung the New York city charter the only mode expre: provided for the removal of the Comptroller is impeachment, and the power to accuse or impeach is given to_ the Mayor, and to no other body or Zunctionary. It would be contrary to all just and reasonable rules of interpre- tation to hold that an absviute power of removal by his own mere sic volo was given by Implication to an officer whose authority m the premises is ex- breed defined, and is by sach definition limited to he presentation of an impeachment. e difference in this general rejation to officers of the government between the power of the Presi- dent and that of tne Mayor is so obvious that fur- ther observation does not seem necessary. The closing sentence of the latest enactment hav- ing any connection with the subject is impressive evidence that the Mayor does not possess the sug- gested power of removal When a Comptroller who has not authorizea his deputy “to possess every power and perform all and every duty belong. ing to the office of Comptroiier’’ happens to be- come actually disabled by any cause from perform- ing such duties himself the Mayor is simply author- ized to file of record a designation conferring those powers and imposing ihose duties on the deputy then already in office by the Comptroller's appoint- CH. O'CONOR, meni. New York, Sept. 18, 1871, ‘The crowds continued to swarm into the offices vhe entire day, and were reluctant to leave when the watchman announced his intention to close the office. There was no evidence of any attempt to get rid of Mr. Connolly or Mr. Green, and they were In close consultation together when the oflice ‘was closed at five o'clock. AT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. Mr. Grecn’s Oath of Onice Not Accepted—The Mayor Will Not Recognize Conrolly or Greon—The Departments Notified—A Re. ward for the “Invaders” of the County Bureau. Contrary to what might be expected there was no unusual excitement around the Mayor's office yes- terday. Mayor Hall was early on hand, and having disposed of an amount of routine asfairs long before the time at which the City Hall gangs most gene- rally do congregate, Chief Cierk Joline was at his desk realy, as im the former times of war, to do any amount of damage to the enemy's miions. Eefore he arrived, nowever, a weighty delegation called at the oice and waited to see the representative of the Mayor. This delegation comprised the Chesterfieidian Rufus F. Andrews, his brown eyes twinkling with a peculiar light, his brown whiskers combed out in most exquisite style, his brown coat brushed most fastidiously, and his tout ensemvie showing him. “DONE UP BROWN" from top to toe, and Mr. Lawrence, from the Comp- troilei’s office, Who 18 cuitivaiing a Jacksonian toupee anda grizzly full beard, Vhey waited not over patiently until Colonel Jolme arrived, when they approached and tendered hima folded paver, “He started from it as if it was a serpent— “I don’t want any of your documents; won't have yhy, Colonel, you don't know what it is, Andrew H. Green’s oath.’? “1 dent want bis oath. won't take hls oath.” “We must leave it here on file,” vs 4 can’t take hts oath, I sald one of the do as you please, gentlemen, but 1 won't take li.” The document was tossed on a table and fell on the floor, where it was allowed ingloriously to re- main, and the committee le!t. What became of the docunient aiterwards nobody seemed to know. ‘the Colonel then prepared himself for lis daily labors, and about the trst thing he did was to send to the several departments the following communica: tion:— Mayow's OFFICE, NEW You, Sept. 18, 1871, SiR—Tam directed by the Mayor to inform you that does not recognize either Richard B. or Andrew H, Green as Deputy or Act mptrolier, Very reapectfully, CHA , Chief Clerk, The Mayor left the oflice quite early, as reported, to hunt up Generali McClellan, but whether this were true or not the attachés of the ofice could not de. termine. he Was expected to return at about two o'clock, but had not returned up to six o'clock, although the ofiice was kept open and the attaches were allon hand awalting hisarrival. Very few visitors called, and the greatest sign of business about (he oitice was the indux of reporters hunting for the latest mformation from the front. “ilas any news come from or about McClellan :?) was a stered- typed question, and “No” was the stereotyped reply. ‘That the Mayor ts In earnest in his determination to find, if possible, the perpetrator ur perpetrators onnolly as Comptroller of the burglary in the County Auditor's Bureau can- not be doubled. On arriving at the ollce yesterday morning he prepared the following message, whicit he trausmitted to the Common Council, by whoi a reward is to be offered for the capture of the INVADERS OF THE COMPTROL 1 Mayor's OFF oF, New Y Sept. 18, 1871. To THR COMMON COUNCIL: "On the bight of ‘September 10 the office of the Finance Department was tnvaded, aud cancelled warrants were secretiy remyved irom their proper places of custody. { recommend that you authorize me to Offer a reward of 81,000 for information tending tothe de- tection of the secret invaders, and #1000 more for the retura, Of the missing warrauts, A. VAKEY HALL, Mayor, A meeting of the Board of Aldermen was called shortly after the message was received, at whici Alderman Woltman offered a resolution giving the Mayor the authority asked for, IN THE CITY HALL PARK. A Few Rongh Interviews—Extraordinary Opinions of the Rank and File—Queer Speculations=What Conneliy Will and Will Not Do—Solutions and Expianations. The City Hall Park was filled with groups of men during the entire day. Atan early hour tn the fore- noon there was a bustle around the Cliy Mail, new Court House and other public butidings, ana a jlvely interest was manifested vy all the newcomers, who began to grow 1 numbers and who eagerly inquired the state of affairs, After the appeasing of their curiosity inside the buildings and the compari son of notes as to THE PROGRAMMES OF THE CONTESTANTS, the crowds geugrally Joafed avout the Park, discus | ba, sing the grand topic of the fhour and inauiging in all sorts of speculations. ‘These loiterers, patient waiters and excited indi- , viduals sceage me She three great classes of Ene filbiar"'R6'Sushiicss men of course only patd FLYING VISITS TO THE PARK when it lay in thelr way, feelug, probably, that qnere WAS Uo use im “ihrowlng. gd0d money alter d time of course is money. The politicians were the principal material of the Crowds, thoagh the bummers were well represented, and lazily held possession of all the seats in the Park during the day, The poiiticians were m various moods of mind, judging from their appearance. Some were ludicrously melancholy, stolidly silent and in a state of most classic pensiveness, Others were in a Jabbering mood, uttering sententious opinions as to the course events were to take, and sticking by their men with characveristic tenacity. Others, again, had FEAR IN THEIR FACES, and evidently were in doubts as to the safety of tne sinecure roll, But all were very serious and evi- dently felt that there was a great job to be fixed up, and that some one should get the worst of it. Though Comptroller Connolly 13 in a most unen- viable position, and may be safely sald to beina tight place, yet it was evident he has many friends left to him still, His backers don’t go quite so far asto make him out immaculate, but they don’t want him to be ascapegoat, and tn the Park yester- day he was defended by bis friends warmly evough. ‘The political conversations were, of course, ail centred on the one great pomt—whether or not Connolly woud go, 8 Was THE MOMENTOUS QUESTION everywhere, and was put so often during the day that finally 1t seemed a joke to ask it, Lt was well known that Connoily would hold on, but then there were 80 many hypotheses consequent upon bis stays ing that no social question was ever propounded upon which speculation had so much ample scope torevelin. ‘the groups of people in the Park ade the most of the problei and spread themselv @ state of conjecture over it that was amazing. A HERALD reporter early in the afternoon ap- proached @ primury-runner, of serious countenance, and salutet him with the general mterrogation. ‘The answer was quick, sharp and dectsive—“yea, 1 guess he oughter go to Sing Sing.’ Still further ine terrogation, put, however, in the mildest form, as to the Boss, WORKED UP THR “INTERVIEWED’? to a wrathful state, and the reporter was at once torewarned by being asked if he had “anything to say to Bill Tweed.” This was quite enough, and having got out of the way quickiy another hite hav’ was encountered. The usual salutation being given, the replv came, ‘Hard to say; SLIPPERY AS AN EEL, The only chance is Oakey {3 a3 smart as Oukey 18 too damned smart in my you know. stecl trap. *pinton,”” “How about the Boss?” “On, he's hunky. They better let the Boss be, that’s all, or tuey’li get swelled heads, some of ’em.'? “Tow do you think 1b will go??? “What the end of it wiil be, 19 it?? “Yes,’? “Why, of course they’ll fix it up, and then every- thing goes on straight as before, See here; tt fellows have heads on ’em up to everythin Ww an’ see ii there’s anybouy goin’ to be hurt. 1s (oo many for ’em, and they’re too many for Con- nolly. ‘That's how 10 13,7? After this solution of the great probiem the re- porter thought it was time to mov 1d, looking out for a more solid-looking man, saluved a gentie- man with THE LARGEST SIZED HEAD he could see. ‘The reply “Connolly won't stir, it seems, Charles O’Conor says he needn’t. 1 think he's right. hey wanted to get hin out because they were afraid themseives to let him stayin. it will be right to pinch the whole of them, tor'they’re all in the one bya weeny and all. If Connolly beats them on this point you will see some tun, L hope Connolly wili hold on,” “Are you In politics, sir’? ‘No, sit; but ld like to know where the money went and how they divided it, I’m curious on that pornt,’” ‘The next individual selected by the reporter was a genuine Simon Pure Eighiceuth warder, and as soon as this geutioman discovered that he was be- Ing interviewed he invited two iriends of nis to “come over the way.” ‘khe combined product of half a dozen other con- versations revealed a few startling solutions of the great dificulty, For the most part, nowever, they partook ol the tenor of those given above, One old gentleman stated that it did not make one whit of difference who was in power in this city. He could remember a great many years back, but he could not remember a time when the city treasury ‘was honestly protected; there was ALWAYS SOME HAND PLUNDERING IT, and he did not expect to live to sce the day tt would be otherwise Hence he was in iavor of leiting Connolly, Tweed, Halt and Swe pull along as best they might, or cat each oth turoats If they liked, lor that matter. Democrat or republican, ine politicians in power would iill their pockets, and there was no use trying to stop them, ‘Suis last opinion Was certainly a very comfortable one to hold, but it was net more so than that de- jivered by a hardy son of toil, who believed that we had come now to such a degraded suite im city gov- ernment that AN EARTHQUAKE or some other shocking thing was to swallow up the city, or, at least, ali poiitical traders. One of the “swells”? of the 1 , after rehearsing Dis views as to the sort of men that ought to govern the be said Le felt assured that the result of this fuss would be a fuilexposure of all the frauds on tne city trea- nd then the arraignment of the Mayor, Comp- ‘Tweed, Sweeny and a few others, ‘The wisdom of all the above opinions and deciar- ations ts of course apparent, aud the tone of the declarations very sausfactory. he crowds continued around natil jate in the af- ternoon, coming and going with a lounging grit that exhibived THE GRAVE CONCERN that was felt in the day’s doings. The flow of in- dighauon that was so evident trom Connolly’s ene- mites in the early part of the day subsided to a great extent when it became known that after all it was harder to kick him out than was at first supposed. Speculation was rife as to what Mayor Hail would ao next. Some thought that there was an end to TEMBER 19, 1871.—T'RIPLE SHEET. the sword and blind as a bat—and this fine imitation of bronze, showing the law books laid out. Then see the fine tines in the cornice, and mark that magnificent centrepiece overhead. 1 had sixty men for a hundred days on that. Not in the Vatican in Rome, the Tuileries in Paris, anywhere in Europe, oan anything be found like it; 1 deaigned by ovie sell, ona iv was wuue under iy direction. Co THIS 18 PLASTRRING.”” _ “Yon are more of an artist than a plasterer,” Somebody remarked. “Plaster be damned !—excuse me, lm excited. Plastering is but one branch of my business. 1 ¢ freaco work, design ceilings, and such | Plaster be damned! Tearned my money for this work, and Vii keep it, It was done as cheaply as any work can ever be done for @ government. Workingmen will always demand more pay when working tor a government than they would if employed by a pri- vate individual. That’s natural, ten’t tt?” “And you charged, Mr, Garvey”?— “Enough to cover my expenses and leave mea | good profit. My profit was good, I admii, but not More than I deserved. Look at that ceiling, gentie- men—(walking through the Common Pleas)—isn't it magnificent? And see, every room 18 «different m style and color. 1 was particular about that, Chief Justice (?) Barbour bas quiet tastes, and I consulted him about this room. I took his hints, Mark the taste and style in which the work is done. Plastering! Damn ‘em! A gentieman present remarked that the room was serene magnificealy and was the best in the ullding. “These are splendidly finished and THE WORK IS THOROUGHLY DONE. It will stand for fifty years. Repairs! They speak of repairs in this building. I tell you no repairs will | be required here while you and Ilive. Tne Hloors, the ceilings and everything nere 1s o! the fest and most duraple material.” “And,” continued Garvey, as soon as he recovered breath lost tn mounting the stairs, “that 1s not ail, There is the top of the building and the bas: ment, all spiendidly finished, ‘The bills 1 present and had paid were for work done inall the public offices of the city besides these, and covered a num- | ber of years. 1 tell you, gentlemen, if tne bills had not been paid when they were I would have been RUINED OUTRIGHT.” “Suppose you make out your bills /n eatenso, Mr. Garvey, and have them published ?” was ask “IT thought of that,” he answered, @. edly; on reflection, 1’! wait. They cannot blackguard me any more than they have done, and I can wait. Wnen the time comes I'll be fully vindicated.” By this time Mr. Garvey had completed the tour of the splendidly furnished rooms and courts, and his auditors descended with bim to the ground floor aud mixed in with the crowd of perplexed politicians there assembled, AT THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ___ WORKS. Brilliant Interview With the Boss—He Won't Fight Windmills, but Will Specific Charges—Peter B. Sweeny a Wise Man. “I don’t know at all, at all,” sald Mike Madigan, of the Fifth ward, the champion of public and pri- vate virtue at Albany last spring, in answer to @ HERALD reporter's inquiry upon the aspect ot things ingenera!, ‘The scene was the Department of Public Works, at the corner of Park place and Broudway; the time, yesterday afternoon. Hali’s petitio principio on the resignation question, ana Connolly’s slippery back stab, notched as It was with quotation marks from the Mayor’s first letter, had thundered upon Mike’s ears ana knocked him into a quandary, of which the opening senicuce is afatavecho, He dida’t know; how could he? WHAT DID ANYBODY KNOW? Ask landsome Jimmy Oliver, whose smiie 13 Percnuial as he Jeans against the mantelpiece, with that Oriental badge like a flery star upon his waist- coat. “Come and see me some other time,” saith Jim, “ana we shall talk the whole thing over.” Oh, communicative James! Ask Andrews, who 13 now upon the stage of public ilfe, smee he left the Winter Garden of nis discontent, Mum, mum’s the word all round. Ah! here is some one, Enter Harry Genet, with a Henry Clay between bis sena- torlal lips; the nearest he has ever got to com- panionsbip with that great mind of other times. REPORTER—How now, Senator, what of the new combination so muchly talked of? GENET (With impressive earnestness of gesture, poluting to the room in front, in which there was nobody, but in which the “Boss,” Hon. William M, Tweed, sojourneth from time to time)— THERE 13 MY COMBINATION, the only one I scek. ‘The eifect of this upon the auditory may be Im- aged, It found a response, unuttered it is true, but looked and felt, which, upon the Bowery stage, would be 1uterpreted by everybody striking an atti- tude and orig “We swear,” The Senator passed on, and sence dwelt around the little throng. The reporter shook the uncongenial element of sayig Hothiae from about him and passed out 1uto the corridor leading to the ollices at the back, Frank Duily was there lvoking as if he had swallowed a gallon of his own root beer, so sick and dispirited did le appear, His outre get up seemed as though he was getting ready for the grave; by no means could it be said he was dressed to kill, Down the steps of tne building a number of oftice-nolders were gathered, whose glib tongues rattled in sympathy to the latest 1iems of news, A beggerman at the coraer, Who had nothing te lose, seemed THE ONLY UNINTERESTED BEING within twenty yards. These men of piace when ap- proached upon the topic of topics became omi- nously sileut, as if anything they could say would be of the slightest moment; but they one and all winked, as much as to say, “Oh, we Know; we could an’ if we would,” and 80 10) Up the steps again to where Tommy Gilrespip sWeis all polite inquiries for Ui joss” the reporter mounted, The boy of the light yet dark mustache shook his head, bothered by much similar inquiry as tue one | he now heard. The ‘Boss’ was out. A vague € the row now until after the Joint Commitee reports; others, that the Mayor would “fix him yet;” others that Connolly ts as good as gone, and only wanis to let a live time pass by. when tis health will require a trip Lo Hurope; and so on, to any extent. mm e HIN WOT a IN THE COURT HOUSE BASEMENT. Unter the Citadcl=scenrs and Lacidents. Here from early morn gathered the heroes of the Mutual Alliance, which St. Patrick himself specially instituted, Like the sculptures on the colums of Karnak every pillar was supported by at least six figures, The centre of tae hall was occupied by a Jarge group. Sprightly Jem Trainor, Prestdentof the Mutes, there, li asacricket. Full of smiles and good humor he was, as the news of a combina- tion between Connolly and O'Brien, “BLESS YOUR SOUL ! SINCE SATURDAY,” gushed from his rosy lips. The ‘Big’ Judge was there, too, Knowing everybody and shaking hanas all round, with a deep-toned “How are you, my boy? ‘The subject of a Mevieliaa invaston Was dis cussed. “what are ail these fellows doing here ?”” at ‘re a@!l heeled.” “Heeted, what's that "7 “Every man you see has a ‘barker’ at his hips’? aut for 1? hey say McClellan's coming down with SOME 0 THEM QUAKER GUN to storm the Comptrolier’s office and turn out yick.? number of disconsolate editors of weekly papers who are owed long bills for advertising by the city government are on hand,” said one. hey were not so quick In paying these as they were tii paying things that will come against them.’? “Suppose, now," said a stranger, “Dick won't go before that committee have sot tbrough?” “Thin,” said a Mutual A‘hance, “Governor Hoft man ‘Ii call out the militia,” A rep rt Was circulatel to the éffect that the Mayor hy and rushed out of his ofice without hat or coat, and had been forced mto a car- riage and driven uptown, This was discredited, even by the most partisan. As each successive shot was interchanged between the belligerents m the jorm of a note irom Oakey to Dick, or e versa, & walk followed in aud out throng men of the horny hand, lavorers and others of MUSCLE AND VOTES, who hung, like Teunyson upon the bridge at | Coventry, “with grooms and porters” around the dark corridor, Good Gikespie! thou hast brought me news, indeed, The “Boss” is in now, aud will see the Henatp reporter, Ushered into’ an omece from the corridor (ie same whither Barry Genet had pointed some twenty miautes gone), the re. porter found himself in front of a desk at which no- | hody was sitting, Entered then Willian from an Office lurther back, and, as he s exit on the corridor, sald "That way. ‘eporter went and found himself tn a spacious », nicely carpeted, solidly furmshed and having upon its walls (he counterfeit presentineuts of A. O, Hail and R. B. Connolly, LOVINGLY SIDE BY SIDE with P. B. Sweeny and others, not forgetting a large septa study of the Boss himself, A latge desk mn polished waintt Was i the centre, but no mortal enuly was seated thereat. But there was a pre- sence there which outweighed and transcended Uhese articies of furniture. it was the soul aad BODY OF WILLIAM M. TWEED. A joyous smile Jit up the vlandaess of Is face as he shook hands with the reporter. 4 soft, plump hand it was that encircied the reporter's tong digits, | worn down to a fine point in writing “tie briel and abstract chronicles of his ume.” Sit down, sir,” siud the Bogs," and as_ with his own hands that great man removed a newspaper ie trom @ leather covered arm chair, the reporter took a seat Where the Boss had in ted. RerorTER—I have come, Mr, Tweed, to ask you if you have anything to say on the present state of city aflairs. TWEED—AN ! indeed. BErOgTER (after a pause)—Have you anyting to say, sir? Twerep (laughing)—No: nothing at all. The reporter surveyed that venerable beard for an instant, and gathering encouragement from its silvery softwess, thougit that perchauce there was A SOFT SPOT SOMEWHERE under his glittering vreastpin; so be said: “Can you give me any opinion how ts trouble 1s going to end’ TWEED—The simplest answer I can make 1+ that I cannot give you what | bave not got, You may form #a opinion, and all are weicome wo their opinions. REPORTER—I! am without afiliation, and can aiford to ve impartial. lively debate ensued, A sporting Inaividual ar- rived during one of these wordy combats and asked, beh hat about the fight, voys? What round ist nock-down for Dick,” was the response. ‘The assembly Was in session until the doors were closed. ANDY GARVEY INDIGNANT, 1 He Explains His Work in the Court Rooms and Ofives and Swears a Little. During the heat of excitement in the new City Hall Andy Garvey, “ihe plasterer,” made his ap- pearance, and, of course, created a sensation. He was very excited, and when approached by some newspaper men who were anxious to discover the meaning of his sudden advent amongst the howling dervishos of the ring—assembied in the lobbies of the building, gesticulating, voiciferating and cu rs- ing, a9 their political predelictions or tuterests in- clined them—he pointed tragically to the gorgeous ceilings, to the wainscotings, the frescoes and fix- tures and registered . A TAMMANY OATH OR TWO against these he thought his calumniators. “Look at that wall, gentiemen,” he cried, with bristiing anger; “Garvey, the plasterer, My God! Do they cali that plastering? See that tpimitable wall, those bas rvlie/s, whose figures, those frescoes, those gorgeous paintings—Justice win | TweEeD—Th the trouble, Those who itke me do got think I WOULD DO ANYTHING WRON and those who oppose me do not think | can do any- thing rig! RevokTER—The decision of Judge Barnard suc- prised @ great many. ‘TWEED (with a smile)—Yes, it did. Surprising things happen every day; bui then, you kuow, pub- lic opinion ts a great lever, Rerorrer— your auswer 1a that case was a simple denial? Tweep—A general denial. The charges were vague and general. Let them bring specific charges ie shall meet them, 1 don’tintend at my me of fe to GO FIGHTING WINDMILLS, and this is all winimill. RerornteR—Sweeny has kept himself in the bac k- ground ali through, TWEED—Wise man! wise man ! RerortER—They didn't inciude him in that soit. TweEeD—Wise man | KeEroRTEK—You have heard of the reported new combinations? TWEED —What are they? RePORTER—Ob, all sorts, Tilden, O’Brien and Connolly for instance. TWEED—That would pe a queer team, And the Boss laughed pleasantly, and put his legs up on the arm of a chair and laughed again. RePORTER—There 15 said to be a great deal more of mere personality in tnis attack from the com- mencement than appears on the surface. (WEED—Motives are hard to judge 1n a fight like this; but time will tei! where they come from, Havemeyer, 3 TWEED (langhing)—Certainly; that 19 Rar ey THEY, WERE #0 LONG Maron. PORTER—YOU seem, Mr. Tweed, to keep ver, cool through it al. ni htrtind TWEED—Yes, but | can get warm at times. Rerorrer—I have no doubt. Can you say any- thing about this trouble between the Comptroller und the Mayort Twrep—No, I cannot; I am very sorry I bave so Atte information to give you, hut — “You know how it is yourself,” the reporter mentally aided, as he took his leave. Two tInkles of the gong on the’ “Boss” desk showed that something else was ar to occupy his attention, The same crowd, with a few addi tions, Were deliberating in the lobby as the reporter left the department behind him, AT TUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC PARKS. Mr. Sweeny inv Demand and a Crowd of Tue terviewers on Bund=What is Teought of “the Mudile? in That Quarter—“The Outs and the tus? There was quite a large assemblage abont the headquarters of the Department of Public Parks on Broadway all day yesterday, drawn tnither more through curiosity than anything elise. Kverynody on hand wanted to see Mr, Sweeny. Where was he? Was hein town? Did anybody know? Where can I find him? Do you know him by sight? Please point iui our to me when he comes along? Tonly want to sce him a moment; I am sure he would be glad to seo me if he knew tw here? were questious that were propounded to the bewil- dered clerks «il day long. Poor Barker was m agony from nin lock mm the morning til dansk. Every caller knew Bar but every calier aian’t know Sweeny; and that’s just WHE (te THE RUB CAME IN. It was all well to Know Barker, for Barker 1¢ @ courteous geatieman, who always tries to do his best by everybody, but who, like most every man in this world who ties to please everybody—no mat ter how obliging he may be—13 never able to SATISFY ALL MANKIND atthe same tine. So Barker had a hard time of it. He knew nothing about Mr. Sweeny. He bad an idea he was in town and that he woul drop into ome time during the da/; but when?— my—thavs what was the matter, The questions that were put to him puzzled him, dumfounded him, made him morose, made him feel ag though’ he was not as young @ man as he thought he was, or at least ought to be. So the result was the same with all applicants for an interview wiih Mr. Sweeny, and the result of this was that Mr. Sweeny was nowhere to be seen: be- cause if Mr. Sweeny hid done lis best to see every- poss who wanted £0 see him he would never have n got hone to supper ina fortmgnt, A HERALD re- porter was amoug the applicants, aud being some- how Detter posted than other peo} ¢ quietly bided his time wile the crowd w lounging about waiting to pounce upon hin for all sorts of favors and charities aud gilts and what not—all that they knew was tat “the Squire” was always open-nanded tn giving wien lett to himself, and he soon came across the object uf his search. But of what use was it? The prospect of an interview was dashed at once. Mi. Sweeny, dt tur out, had peen working hard all the morn ing perfecting some new improvements for the city parks, and, closeted with the men who are making them to bloom like fairy gardens, he bad passed the entire forenoon im hs Htile oiice, next to Judge Hilton's, “unbeknownst,” as a Irishuan would say, toanybody outside of doors, As he came out he looked fresh and smiling, aud ia no way put out by the hupbub that was being made just across the Park about Mr. Connolly's “J have nothing to say about the city affairs,” sald he, courteously, as he passed hurriedly out, “when Ihave | will cheerfully tet you all I have to say." In another moment he was on tt yon an in specting Lour through the Central Pa dat tie door, Meanwhile, had not dis- . had not seen “the Squire’? go out, and 80 they jingered* in the vain hope of bu.ton-holing him betore mghtiall. They passed the time in dis- cussing the events of the day, “Why,” saita prominent Twenty-first ward poli- ticlan fMneng them, “what's the use of maiag such @ talk about this Connolly fuss’ J] am as stoug for Seform’ as tie next man, but Iam a deinocrat, and don’t want to be walked over by any claptrap games of poiticians who are not democrats.” “What do you mean?” said anotucr. ‘Just this, A great cry has been raised about re- form. In that the people, regardless ot ali party, ig interested, democrats a3 well ag republicans, But what (lo we see now 1”? “What?” “Why ,simply this:—A lot of fellows get together and say, in effect, We are the ‘outs,’ but we must be the ‘ins.’ We'll go in on @ reform and we'll break the ranks of the ‘ins’ and make them the ‘outs,’ ‘The game is simple, We've GOL CONNOLLY ALL RIGHT, He’s our tool. We've got Green-he’s onr tool. Now there's Sheriff O’Brlen; he aad Counolly wilt make up and bury the hatchet, aud then we'll have ‘ing’ of or own.?? ‘Have Conuoliy and O’Brien settled matters ?” ex- ped one of the crowd, 0 1 understand,” was the reply. hen the people must submit to taem.’? tat’s their game.” vecuuse they settle their quarrels to make a ring of thelr own the people must mind tele Dust ness, “That's the irlea.”” “Weil, if that's so," exclaimed a weli known poll- ticiaa ol the Kighteenth ward, “1 waat none of we new refol J’d rather any day tal oweeny and Tweed than Connolly and O'brien, if they rail so against Connolly, Why don’t they go for O' brieu, this gang of FELLOWS WHO WANT TO GET CONTROL? He isn’t so invulnerable; he wasn’t brought up in his young days so well and s omaticaliy 2s to sas ly that British organ in Park row a few years avo.”? “What do you tuink will be the upsiot of the row. that is going on? asked one of the crowd of an- other. “1 think that, no matter how much money 1s on the one side, the side that has the most brains will win in the end.” “and wiica side has the most bralus 7” “Well, it isn't Connotly’s.’? ‘This was the just of the general conversauion In the cro’ and the discussions were kept up till long alter dusk, When it dispersed, AMONG THE PEOPLE, rehtions with the Toilers—Gpinious of ms Who Uo Not Draw Salisica—Ulow Rents Are ed and Bow Provisions Are Made Dear=The Feelings of ‘Two dfeu trom Opposite standpoints, Itis rarely or ever that the people are considered When thieves fall out among themselves, New York politics have always beea dirty, and it seems from tne late revelations published inthe UERALD that although the thieves are about to disagree and cut each other's throats, yet they have not as yet begun lo take Inio account the immeuse mass of honest dew ta who live In this city, the ma. jority of whoim are working men, willie a large per- centage are men of wealth and refinement, Unlike the politiclans, tne ALO i always anxious to kuow what the people think, what thetr feelings are aud tow they live, cat, drink and sleep, Yesterday the Hekap reporters Wet among the people for the purpose of learning what their seu- timents Were, irrespective of parties, color or class. ‘The first person that the HERALD reporter saw on his tour of observation was a jouracyman painte who lives in Elm street, near Broowe, This man has to work from seven until five o'clock mM tus afternoon, He iias a wile and three children, and 1s compelled to provide for their welfare whether he is employed or idic, The journeyman rents fo rooms at $23 a month, He ls a Scotchuna by bi a, has lived in New York thirteen years, and has never held oftice, sinceure or any employment from the The entrance to his apartinent Js up two pair ma the ring. of dark stairs, and in his Scotchman was found busily cag wife—a deceni-looking Woman—muke o stew. On the entrance of the HERALD reporter Ue wife wiped her hands with a clean tow dd the Bus. band came forward and bade the reporter “Good morning.” * HERALD REvORTER—! have been told tint you are one of the oldest workingmen in this ward, and [ have come to see you to know what you tank and what your feelings may be in regard to the doings of the ring of piunderers as they are viewed by you, a workingwan. ° Honest ScorcuMAN-—Sometimes wheon | come home from work I feel prutty bad aboot the dooins of the Ring. Five years ago t paid soxtecn dollars a month for these same apartments, tha: i lave now to give the landiored qwonty-three do'lurs for, The Jandiord could never explain to me how the rise came in the rent, I had enough to do to support ihe wie and bairns when I paid soxieen «oltars a month. Stnce then provisions have re clothes: are not very cheap, and at the end of a week a man does not know where @ dollar is going to come trom for tho next week's providing. If 1 go to get % barrel of potutocs, or & piece of pork, or a glass Of Whiskey, a9 any man will do when he’s tired out, | have to pay the ready money for it, and the grocers man ac the hoi iid kidney RePorrer—it is pretty ceriain the attacks have been reserved for the period before election, al- though I have heard verdant democrats deplore their appearance at this tune, corner would scout me If Lasked hint for trust Bat 1 always take the HERALD; (spare Livcuty-cigat cents LOnLINUED ON TENTH PAGS,