The New York Herald Newspaper, July 11, 1871, Page 3

ORANGE AND GRERN. To-Morrow’s Threat- ened Trouble. Breech-Loading Rifles Distributed Among the Would-Be Belligerents. Hot-Headed Hibernians Eager for a Fray. What the Clergy and Laity Say on the Subject. Intense Excitement in the City and Suburbs. Meetings of the Frish Societies Last Night. Superintendent Kelso Spoils the Happy Expectations. Ho Issues a Proclamation Forbidding All Parades To-Morrow. See EMU NERS Mayor Hall Writes a Letter to the Orange Grand Master, — Tammany’s Newest and Most Startling Departure. Zhe Peace-at-Any-Frice Party Again Prevails. The Green Above the Red, White and Blue. Orange, Orange, Green and Orange, ‘Wave them toetver o’er mountain and pay; Levies in fight United in sai, Orange and Green will carry the day. Thus sang Thomus Davis over a quarter of a cen- Wary ago, in tne stircing noon of the Young Ireland party, when a galaxy of noble spirits, fall of genius ‘and exalted patriotism, strove with rare and bril- stant fervor to bring together all classes of Irishmen 4m one grana etiort for independence. They saw the eurse of Ireland sprang from unreasoning religious bigotry, that, like @ high and massive stone wail, ‘hut ont one element of the population from the other. Through the vivifying medium of song and oratory they quickened the impulses of patriotism and in part demolished the barrier that separated the Protestant from his ‘Catholic fellow countrymen. But in spite of Davis’ Xhriliing verse and Meagher’s burning eloquence the 04 feuds sown in blood and bigotry on the banks of Ake Boyne broke forth, and Orangemen, oblivious of country and nationality, still msisted on drinking ‘the health of King William and looking back through the dim vista of tne gathering years to @ommemorate the conquests of a man whose anguage was truly Dutch to them, anda whose vic tories were as much in the real cause of the pure Protestant religion as the windmlll performance of Don Quixote was in the interest of Knightly chivalry. All tne tried and martyred patriots of Insh history since Orangelam was estab. lished were, with few exceptiuns, Protestants. Robert Emmet, Wolfe Tone, Lord Edward Fitzger- ald, Napper Tandy, Arthur O’Conor, Davis, Smith O'Brien, John Mitchel an@ others, so that the ques- on of religion which has been sprung into this controversy has really no proper abiding place in it, In the reports, interviews, letters, &c., which we publish it will be seen that religion plays @ promi- ment part, though in truth the pottom of the present bitterness between Roman Cavholic Irish and Orange Irish rests upon another foundation, and ‘that ig nationality, in which, perhaps, if you ex- ‘mine the warp and woof, may be found many ‘threads of a religious texture, THE VOLCANIC ELEMENTS ‘which some of the papers pretend are about to ‘durst forth to-morrow and fill every Irishman’s soul ‘with frenzy are in a great measure purely fanciful. ‘The subjolned accounts gathered by the HERALD re- porters from all parts of the city represent that the Orange parade formed the leading subject of dis- cussion und that many fears were expressed that despite the foresightand vigtlance of Superintend- ent Keiso the peace of the city might be broken, ‘Thus cloud, no larger than a man’s hand a few days ago, has already covered the vast circumference of the heavens, and yet the truth will be found that ite origin could be traced to a mere handful of men, who, partly by prejudice and partly instigated by worrapt and designing politicians, have uttered threats whose real significance fall far below whit they express, Atleast this is the ingenious turn given to it by our authorities to cover up their angiortous back down. The story goes now that the whole thing is A REPUBLICAN TRICK toembroil the Catholics and Protestants, provoke the former to assail and intimidate the latter, and give an excuse to President Grant to put in force fhe late Ku Klux law, which gives him the power to protect citizéns of the United States in any of the States in the enjoyment of their rights, and prevent ‘violence and intimidation to persons, This story, extravagant as it may seem, received a wide cur- fency yesterday, and those who consider the repub- Means would resort to any measures to break up democratic role in this city gave it ready efedence. It was said that as long ago as four months men in the pay of the republican party became members of the Hibernian Societies, and made the subject of assailing the Orange procession of to-morrow the special purpose of their talk among those who belonged to the societies, until they worked upon the feelings and prejudices of the ‘members to such an extent that a final resolve was weached last week to stop the Orangemen vi et armis. For this object 2,500 rifles were furnished, ‘oMcers appointed to command companies, and a feguiar military organization accomplishea. It was hoped all this might be done’ without the cogni- gance of the police or the other civic authorities, and ‘when the day for the procession arrived THE ATTAOK WAS TO BE MADE 0 unexpectedly that the Mayor, Governor of the State and Superintendent of Police would be taken ‘amawares, a desperate riot inaugurated, and, in the ‘anprepared condition of the authorities, a call was to be made on the general government, United Btates troops poured in and the autonomy of New York city destroyed. In confirmation of this story, those who hold that the idea of attacking the Orangemen originated ‘with certain members of the republican party point eo the fact that a delegation from the Order of Ancient Hibernians proceeded to Long Branch yes- terday to lay the matier before President Grant, and fequest him, under the new law designed ostensibly for the suppression of Ku Klux outrages at the exercise 101 u of law Sse Say, a ae | <A this, it i said, the Amoient PRILADELPHTA Pre ate ein OA IE -tng to the Grang‘army of the Republic. The unt- ‘oi Hiberntans has aiso been repre- ted sppiieaiion t the oificers of the lave Irieh bi lé, in this city, to teach them drill rs Lo be responsible for all NEW YORK HERALD, TUESDAY, JULY 11, 1871,-TRIPLB SHEET, and sald in this Orange Dusiiess. 3 DECIDED that the procession should come off; that its nombers Wouid exoved that of any former year. Along with the 1,000 Irish Orangemen there were to be 1,600 Ameri- caus be! to a kindred society, and 1,500 sym- pathizers, 4a all 4,000 mien, every one of whom Kitoe wE forth armed to the teeth. About eleven hi Roles Were to have accompanied the procession, and be beldin reserve by detachments the of its route, Asthe police would algo be armed, and act on the defensive, as the intend, the body of Orangemen were to 4, rioters Wo proposed to themselves to smash up the page w we bad @ lormidable work wo per- The Catholic clergy have done all that lay in their Dower, Their advice from the pulpits of the churches last sunday was not alone timely, but in | every instance earnest and impressive. Every seu- sible Irishman with whom a HERALD reporter spoke eae rece roposed attack and LANDER. that the Irish Catholics were see! wo deprive class of men of a privi which the; themeeives, Of course, among the Jr there was Lape talked of up to bup'the event of to-morrow, much bitterness towards the Orangemen, @ preponderance of feeling could be detected in | favor of peace and order, In the meantime; it would seem, extensive arming has been going on, A gunsmith on Broaaw: Says he sold more revolvers within the past few days than in the previous six months, The feeling. in the barrooma would be an unlair index of the general sentiment among the Irish, for the weather was hot and the whiskey was hotter, so that between the two and the near anticipation of a scrimmage the Veltic tem- perament was as near fever heat as it bas been for many long years, The letters which are given below show how those who read the papers view the subject. Whenever we suffer from any undue excitement an avalanche of epistolary literature is sure to be precipitated upon the press, The letters come from various classes of people, but more especially trom Koman Catholics, who feel especially anxious to repudiate | we base charge of intolerance which some of the Papers have been preferring against them recently. Whenever anything of a particularly excitive Irish nature is on the im ty all the ancient agitators swim to the suriace, aod here we }iave some of the ojd familiar ecrubs putting in an oar to in @ capital in one Way of another. John O'Mahofiey has ‘Hot -yeo 7 been heard from, but he 1s bound to turn up vefore the Surry ove, A good deal of curiosity has been expressed to near the music and the words of the Orange airs | that are said to ve so obnoxious to Catholic ears, such as “Croppies, Lie Down,” and the “Battle of the ah Bae a cannot five the music, and fi vise aun; readers to put: themselves to the crouble o! ngerité It played py the Orangemen to-morrow. Here are a few verses of tho “Harte of the Boynt . The Protestants of Drogheda, hat they were not to bondage brought, rReTanRea se irat to the Tholsel the; re ‘And tied at Milmount after; But brave King William act them free By venturing over the water. Come, let us all, with heart and voice, Applaud our lives’ defender, Who at the Boyne his valor showed, And made his foe surrender. To God above the praise we'll gtye, Bota now and ever after, And bless the glorious méYaory Ot King William that crossed the water. juperintendent Kelso, after mature consideration of the whole subject, decided to give the police orders not to allow the Orange or any other proces. sion to move to-morrow, and now the io tion 13 asked, will the enforcement of the order be submit- ved to? Itig hardly to be supposed any sane men will attempt to trifle with the Superintendent's order; but in the present excited condition of both sides it is hard to tell what may happen, though Pass het must hope the backbone of the whole thing en, The following is the order of Superintendent Kelso:— GRBNERAL ORDER NO. 67, OFFIOR OY THE SUPRRINTRNDENT OF POLIOR o¥ THE CiTy oF NEw Yom Kloten bani ae Youre, July 10, 1871. ——, — precinct :— Superintendent has been applied to by the Grand Mas- Uitlet stateh to Somat ine mateo Urn eon tio ine stress aad avenves of hd cht of Wow vorkion the ah ine stant) ia honor of the battle of the Boyne and the surrender which was its consequence, 7 commemorative on the soil of Ire- several land by one English king over anol F one nearly two centuries ago = national aifferences which have descended from generation to generation with Increasing. acrimony, large bodies of citizens participating in these feelings form parte cf our community. The Superintendent has been legally advised he should not sid any street celebrations that involve feuds and animonities belor ‘solely to the history of other countries than our own, and which experience “h to endanger the public peace abroad and at home. Proposed cele » 88 38 obvious to every one, to the last e » un ungupeeted public csicoration of the toreiss event byes ‘and deplo ompanied in the streets with inex- a, by which four citizens lost their lives, despite the interference of the police, This vio- Sone = monde eed result " from spontaneous ext t. This year, rocession' bas been sunouaged much td ad? usual paves mg bave been made to swell by accessions from other parts of this State and from other States. Tt is given out that armed Preparations for def have been made by the members of the parading lodges. 4, the announced processjun appears to hat espectall: organize beyond the magaitute of aay previous one, and emphasized with announcements that Apparently evince a Sera naar ytars celebration; and dome of ite. ieodere nded last year's c ion; oi Baro state’ to the Superigtondent that they considered acol- inevitable, If this needless celebration should provoke eegeneral. dist baaeo it would furuieh. the opporiaty us classes of sought for by the lawless and dan; Jormmuntty io participate fn it, an to carry conse. quences so faras to endanger the safety of persons roperty. if ecedt disturbances have been announced from Great Britain by cable despatches as incident to similar public eaocaizerat by the Orange jnatitutions in that country. And upon a cl survey the Superintendent ts convinced that if the pro procession forms or moves with its ban- nera an‘ traditional music amid unthinking, rash apd t healed s; tors who are not in sympathy the foreign feuds which the procession ia intend OT then ‘whole police (and erhape mueh of the military) force of the city might be required to protect the procession, and ions of the city most needing watching would bo Tt any procession (or occupation by marching order of the gure ‘were a matter of right, or could Togaliytdemang pro. tection, then it should; at all hazards, receive escort and guard; because the authorisies never should allow that which ts matter of right to the populace to be ever lawiessly overa' But legal decisions have settled that occupation of streets by ns ig @ mere matter of usage or tolera- tlon, and is always subject to police jation and supervi- sion. The surrender of thoroughfares to la! ized bodies of men necessarily interferes with the individual rights of other citizens, and those thus sage, are, in the language of the law, ible poe 6 toleration of processions by citizens and authori:ies ts to the fact that street meetings and parades always repre- sent some sentiment or occasion not at all ealculated to provoke hot blood. Jn every subject matter for police dis- crctiouary permission the inconveolence of the few ought De surrendered to the widest security for the property an erson of the greatest number of citizens. And al ali times be police shouid prevent occasions for disorder rather than wait to regulate or suppress it, It is very clear that if any One individual should undertake by himeell to. produce occasion of irritation and excitement to others in the com- munity he would not he in sueb an act entitled to police pro- tection, And surely what may not be done by one individual ought not to be attempted by the organized mauy, when the aggravation would be so much the greater. ‘herefore you are ordered (in conformity to the private directions herewith promulgated, and which relate merely to details of discipiine and arrangements for police action not expedient to be publicly announced) to prevent the forma- Hon or progregsion of the public street procession for the instant allud ‘and of all processions under pretence o! ‘ou witl also’on that day tm ly ke Cleared from groups and. assemblages of every class of citizens, whether sympathizing with or against the proposed “gg, oo! or whetner they are lawl Sapcoee Prdtherwise. ‘You will also promptly arrest all persons Of any description who in the thoroughfares use threatening or disorderly ngage, inedting to breach of the peace, in con- tempt of the 8 utes upon that subject. MES J. KE ), Superintendent. AT THE SAYOR’S OFFICE, of Society Men and Interviewers U; Mayor—The Taike That Were Held in the Corridors and it the Parade. The Mayor's office all day yesterday was tne cen- tre of attraction for quite a crowd of Hibernian so. ciety men, clergymen and newspaper men. Every one hau the same object in view in hanging about the doorways and lobbies, and that was to “have a word orjtwo” with Mr. Hall about the much-talked of riot on Wednesday. The clergymen were on hand to give their Christian advice as to just how hard a policeman should club a rioter in case the services of the knights of the baton would become one of the TANTALIZING NROESSITIES of the day’s enjoyment. The newspaper men wanted —. Well, if they had once got a hold of the Mayor he would have found out to his cost, Goubtiess, that the neutral interviewing business partakes considerably, sometimes, of political pamp- fog, with no safeguards to fall back upon if he once Gared to whisper & single sentence of comment upon the bes gm with the word “Tiot” thrown into it by way of spice here and there. As for the Hiber- nian Society men they desired His Honor to issue a proclamation calling upon the Boyne-water folks not to alrtheir colors on Wednesday because there might be a little “onpleasantness” along the line of the parade if they would air them. In fact the vari- ons society men who turned up during the day would not take mo for a answer when they in- quired for Mr. Hall, They wanted the Mayor, the entire Mayor, and nothing but the Mayor. But, unfortunately or fortunately, as the case may be, the Mayor was not to be found. He wasn’t exactly nowhere, but he wag everywhere; at least the telegraphic despatohes that came fying in up to three o'clock, all dated at different parts of the city and all signed by the Mayor, seemed to indicave that such was the case. Strange to say, the wn) Who ondenvorsd 10 cateh Mla Hones at some 9B0 of | Mepiaces he nad tetegraphed from always arrived on the ground too late. The Mayor always, luckily for himself, got ahead of them by a few minutes. iain ae ik enone easy ss wit amo ninetics, remained ae DOGGEDLY ATE sls tenest Seear ae ar ees ir and ‘fim ha fc It would certainly have been a positive cruelty to have kept everybody wno wanted the Mayor “Just @ momenv” out in the inhospitable cor- ridore, and the handed the following card Colonel Joline, the ebief clerk: bs J —_ ‘TO VI RG AT THE MAYOR'S OFFIOR. If your calt upon di and instantly con- nected with the administration of the city government, the Mi Goaloea to pee ot, and x uests your card. If your is samt privale and semi-publio, do him the favor first to converse with his chief clerk. If it de of a private or personal nature, please intimate what you wish by note. It was quite amusing to witness the blank look of amazement that came over the countenances of the tens upon tens of would-bo interviewers as they read this card though. ach one looked at his neighbor to see if that neighbor knew exactly what to do under the circuinstances; but the great majority— no doubt soitened in their hour of disappointment by the smiilng face of the jovial Joline—came to the conclusion that their business after all was *sem\- private and semi-public,” and they, therefore, quite eagerly did the Mayor the favor to CONVERSS LOUDLY AND LONG with his chief clers and then went away satisfied of one thing, which was this: that if they had been unable to see the Mayor we had said enough to his rigut bower to make the Mayor’s head full of har- rowing recoliegtiong of their visit when he would ayrtye In the moruing, We seifappointed delegations and the regularly appointed ones, who thronged the corrl: dors long after the last cura-favored man bad bowed out, there was @ motley gathering of polite to do for the time being cians who had nothing el he shadow of the ity Hall than to Lys cool in th archways, ‘They jomeda ih heartily with the 1ew ‘excir@ue NT, loud talkers, Who seemed to —""BRIMFUL OF THR OFAN . nd gave freé vent fuels, ‘Way of thinking abont the matter. A very Intelligent looking man, who had just enough of the “sweet Irish brogue” about his tongue to Faatcare his nationality, after listening patiently to a ong harangue from a man beside him as to what tine mincemeat the Orangemen should be made mto, exclaimed:— “{ hope that every man who interferes with the procession will get blown to atoms.” Now, ma good Catholic. heard Father Preston, one of the most illustrious priests of the Charch, warn all Catholics yeaterday to keep away from the parade, Good Catholics should take good advice, especially when it comes from their pastors. “What's religion got to do with it,” exclaimed a burly looking fellow in the crowd, as he faced the trai speaker, anh LI. Soi “Everything. Don’t you invetgh against It be- cause Orangemen hiss at Catholicism aad celebrate the triumph of a Protestant over a Vatholio King ?? “ihat vee some people’s idea of it, But itis not mine, ahd Iam a good Hipernian Society man. These fellows hav THROWN DOWN GAUNTLET, which we wil take up indead earnest. {t is a ques- tion not of fone he but of Irish nationality, we want wo settle, In Ireland tne Orangemen fight againse the antl-English principles we stood up for a the old country. They propose to renew whe ning here and flaunt their n banners in our fey » they'll rue it this if they never did lore.’ “If there be bloodshed,’ persisted the other, “in- nocent parties will be certain to suffer the most. Men like you should discountenance violence to tne prooessionists,’” “Why sof? “Because you're & man of common sense, and have org nee with the men who are anxious to Oppose the Orangemen. Pet they will not listen to the Archbisnop why shoula — listen to me?’ “With all respect for yourself allow me to say that the men who wish to attack the Orangemen are of a class that never pay much attention to what the clergy saw anyhow; they are not good Cathoics.”” “I said before religion had notming to do with the trouble.’” “Then you should be IN FAVOR OF LAW AND ORDER allthe same, The hundreds of poor ignorant fel. jows who will next Wednesday give way to their ad passions, if not checked, and assault the pro- cessionista, will strike a biow at the irish race in this country the ems “Cobble stones! Why, gobble stones this time, We far, Speaker ground his teeth ina sort of supp! rage, His last remark, however, ee, quite a marmur as of surprise in the crowd, the man, evidentiy imp) with the idea that he had spoken his mind too freely, soon afterward left the gathering and disap, 5 THE MAYOR'S VIEWS. Although the society mea and the Orangemen, and all the other people who wanted to see the Mayor yesterday and get him. to express himself men were unsuc- either for or against the O: cessiul in their all day work of Li they ae, be comforted somewhat in learning that the Mayor wrove a letter a few days ago to John J. Bond, the he expressed Way about the propriety of the rade. No reply bas as yet been received chief of the Orangemen, in which himself ina gen proposed by the Mayor to the letter, which runé as follows:— EXROvUTIVE D&PARTMENT, CiTY HALL, New York, July 6, 871. Joux J, Bonn, Baq., G, M. L. 0, ¥. :— DEAR Siu—From’ your letter to the Superintendent of Police, from your explanations to me, and from a letter whi ‘on addressed to the Timer, J learn that an order or associa Ton Of individuals, over which you are the chie’, propose to celebrate by a ‘street pi n and pablio picnic the victory, achieved in 1600. by William , HIT.,, one imilar public ‘another "king, 01 wherein ¢ events happened have always been attended by public disorders, Breaches of the peace have several times oo- curred in Canada and in the United States during celebra- tions of a like import, summer serious atfrays {0 this oity grew out of the public procession and plonic when par- ticipated in by your order. You seem to apprehend new dis- turbances this year on account of the proposed celebration andT think I am justified by your written and publ she statements in inferring your own opinion to be that public disorder must necessarily result from your intended action because of the religions as well as anclently political opposi- tion to the event cele! Assembiages of din places of public access, and street processions of every racter, have never become matters of popular right. ‘In accordance, however, with the operations of free institutions they are generally permitted and usually enjoy wi popular assent much freedom of action, although often submited to at considerable sacrifice of public comfort, They fore subjects for police regulation and supervision. 1t not an im le, it is never- eee nen bah te bees Tar chad exe ys ation in or how far exi e ap- proximate rule seems to be that the and'becurity Of jhe greatest number should ve consulted in the decision, a ‘our proposed cel pears ‘unnecessary. And it certainly seems at firnt glance to be singular thats foreign event, occurring nearly two hundred ago, and with Which American citizens cannot actively sympathize, should become on our soll the subject for extensive com- memoration, Moreover, ought not the feuds and animonsities of old countries, from whence our copied oltizens come, be entirely merged in our citizenship? {e another danger, je there Eoin) collisions fem a by their maintenance of by uel here would be taken advantage the dangerous classes, which always bh unities ? It has been sald from the bench ( ‘ought ever to be rmitted to publicly assemble with whose inscrip- Tone would be calculated to inflame the passions of otner men, and in view of what took place last year may {t not be wellwishers that a repeated participa- ur orEaa ould seem like a concerted effort to irritate jublic peace! could suggest many occasions for celebrating even Americen events which would result inevitably in producing public disorder. Su ye, for in- stance, that a considerable number of New York residents of Southern birth should propose to celebrate the battle of Bull Run that ocourred in this month, and shouid by means of banners and musio succeed in arousing the bud temper of the hundreds of thousands who not only could never sympathize with the event, but under much personal, sectional or national feeling, deplore it: or auppose that, in view of recent events that haye occurred in Europe, a body of French adopted citizens, furnished with banners and yusic 0! ‘ul fn. aight and sound to citizens of German pint, should march through seotlons of our city that are In- \bited by the intter Teontest myself pt present with simply submitting to you these "very general considerations, and’ with asking you whether it would not be more politic for you and your friends to forego any popular or public demonstration of the event to which you and they attach eo much tmporsence?. Very truly yours, A. OAKEY HALL, Mayor of the city of New York. THE BOULEVARDERS, It was rumored last eveniug that the President of the Department of Public ‘ks Would issue an or- der to-day to the men working in the parks and on the boulevards ordering the men not vo break off ‘work (o-morrow without ission from the Engt- neer-in-Chief under ai ty. of iosing their situa- tions. It te belfeved that if such an order were issued it would have @ good effect upon a great mi of the men who might be tempted to take a hand im any row that might occur between the pro- cesatoniste and their opponents, hought by even your tion by your oredateaion VIEWS OF ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATLORNEY FELLOWS, Colonel Fellows, as @ representative American, and as Assistant District Attorney for tne city and county, was deemed Iikely to have formed opinions fs to the prospective riot, and from his mental calibre and genial disposition to have opinions that ‘were likely to be held by all the men of his class In the city, The Colonel, when our reporter approached him, which, by the by, was before the worry and tur- moll of the daz could have cast a wrinkle upon the Colonel's noble brow, and when the pleasant smiles and merry twinkles of his eyes were in the ascend- ant, Was quie communicative on the great question of the day. {770% Colonels 1 le warm t9-Gay, lw_.agt? Do hey every cobble stone they throw at we won't bother the have something better rearms as ever were made,” and the said the interviewer, “Quite as warm, I think; but I suppose you refer to the Orange procession 1’ “Yes, that is what 4 do refer to, Colonel.” “Well, I don’t anticipate that there will be any breach of the peace. Iam inclined to think that order will be preserved and that the city will be public thought just now, Colonel; the oewspapers are full of ‘3 of the on genet sabtects what do you think “Well, 1 don’t think the Orangemen it to be wed to le, and I will Ex ou it cannot be said that the cel ion Soe 1358 day and here the Colonel struck an attitude which will be familiar to those who fave seen him tn bis best otonay Pairk’ tS oulobrated in every town of England and ireland; thor of > eons a" processions with music play! S ae es Of Krin, an}, Wo the honor of Euginad be it sald, not @ disturbance, not @ riot, a conflict, has ever been known,?? ry State, Colonel, been brought on these processions 7)? seenirntie was a time when riot and conflict gene! attended the 12th of July processions, and us the designation of ‘Orange societies’ was found to be illegal these organizations kept withm the four corners of the legisiative enactment by. styling themseives “Pho American Protestant Assuciation,’ ? “What, as a District Atturucy, wouid you advise to be done with the procession on Weanésuay tr” “Well, I don't think they ought to parade, but If ‘the societies persist in their demonstration 1 would Protect them so as to prevent any breach of tho Deace, and to do this effectually 1 Would take care vhat the protection should be adequate to mect any emergency, and that every power in the State should vega Sal Snel ‘anus 0 pean th hig at- e Colon juties demandes at is al tention Shoud'beea ected vo other men than the Orangemen, The interview@r, therefore, bade him “Good day” and proceede1 tO gather the opinions or another prominent man. VIEWS eee abba OF THE CATHOLIC CLERGY. ‘The Catholic clergy have, or are supposed to haye, so much controlling Inflyence oyer the irish fambs of their flocks that On such occasions as the present threatened danger their optmions are looked for with considerable interest. Forming, a8 it does, the universal topic of conver- sation in the city, a HERALD reporter had not far to go to HEAR IT VENTILATED, At street corners, in liquor stores and other haunts of the idlo, the thirsty and the vicious, it received its meed of attention, Said one muscular fellow out- side @ ilquor store in Duane sireet:— . ‘Last year, begor, they took us unprepared, but they won't this time; an’ if there’s a scrimmage it'll be the divil’s own murdher; for the Orangemin are preparin’, too——'?._. “Whisnt, now 1 Tepited a sensible looking man, “what d'ye want to bother about 16, at all, at all, for? If you come down to the fine pint, who cares ared herrin’ for King James or King Billy? Keep at home or go to your work, Patsy.” “Well, 11 shtick to the byes, hit or miss.’? ‘This was not cheering to the reporter, so he hur- ried down to City Hall place, where FATHER MICHAEL CURRAN, OF 8T, ANDREW'S chureb, resides. The reverend gentleman was found perspiring on the back sloop, Having greeted the reporter and learned his business he made the following statement:—“I have done all in ™y power to influence my congregation against turnmg out on Wednesday next, and so has the Archbishop. He cailed on me personaliy on Satur- day, and gave me instructions to notify my congre- gation of the disgrace it would be to Irishmen if a Tiot wes created, the consequences that would ensue, and the odium they would bring on themselves. It ‘was, however, impossible for him to restrain men who did not use church, He did not apprehend a riot; thought there was too mucn foolish talk on the matier. He thought the HERALD should go in and crush all lawlessness, It was a great power, and exceeded all the other papers in influence, as it did {no circulation, “But, honestly speaking,” said he, ‘the Catholics have much to remember. I remember well how my father took part in an election in our part of the old country and @ Catholic member was returned; and on his way to town he nad to go along a certain and there was a ‘great crowd going with him, and a big triamphal arch like was built over tne road and the Orangemen put @ lot of insulting mot- toes and lines on if, and, rather than go under that arch, the member turned hig horse and swam him across the river, and the Grangemen were 80 put out when he dida’t go under the arch that they threw stones at him and cut him im the head. Now, there’s many a little thing like that to remember, but, nevertheless, 1 don’t think it’s right to bring those differences here to this country." FATHER FARRELLY, OF 8T. JaMES’ CHURCH, was found at his residence. He greeted the re- porter with marked courtesy. He said:— “1 was astonished, sir, to read in the HERALD this Morning that our venerable Archbishop and the clergy were to be held responsible tn case of any breach of the peace on the 12th of July. I have always been PROUD OF YOUR PAPER aad did not expect it to make such an illogical pro- sition as that the priests shoulda be to blame in his matter. The Archbishop and the Vicar General, Father Starrs, took a round of all the chur>hes jn the city on Saturday, each one seeing half of the pastors, and told them to censure any attempted outbreak whatever, advising all men to refrain trom turning out. I made Lad &@ lengthy address at mass yesterday, takin, constitution. Last night, however, I met the School Committee and was surprised to learn that they were indi it m, 5 had ey sald, been abd ate “Ma the pHests wing? £ ALWAYS AGAINST THE PHOP UN in asserting their rights, whether id Fenianism or what not. Ireplied that any man who wonld turn out on that day should be expelled from any society he might be in connected with this Church, You see [ have done all in my power, and what I am astounded at is that the H¥RALD should attempt to hold us reponsibie for the conduct of men whom ioe we do not see at church once in ayear. If ‘here shoald be any riot these are the very men will begin it. We might as well be held responsible for the appearance of @ comet and censured additionally according to the length of its tail.” What Father Farrell, of St. Joseph’s, Thinks, The sturdy old priest sat benind his desk hard at ‘work with his figures when a representative of tho HERALD called upon him last night to obtain his views about the Orange procession, “I am very glad to see you,” said the priest; down.” “Father Farrell, I came to ask you what you think about this 12th of July business.” “Well, I certainly think it is a very foolish affair. If the Orangemen wisn to parade the streets and en- Joy themselves I see no reason why they shouldn't.” “Don’t you think they ought to take the feelings of others into consideration /” “It would certainly be better taste to let it alone, Still, if they want to parade they have a perfect right to.”” “T see you spoke about the matterin church yes- terday.”” “Yes; I think that is the only proper way to look atit, BotTam afraid whet is said in the churches won’t 40 much good, for the fellows who will be likely to make @ row of that kind don’t come to chureh.” “Still, 1t will reach them through others.’’ “Jt may get to them through the women and the newspapers, but they are not the kind to mind ad- vice much.’” “The Orangemen have an unquestionable right to parade?” “Certainly; and it would add much more to the dignity of our people if they let them alone and took no notice whatever ofthem. The thing would then aie out of ite own accord.” “There’s no doubt about that.’ “You see this very opposition keeps the thing alive and gives it an importance th: ib would not otherwise have.” ‘ “The Orangemen clously.”” “So do the other side, and with less show of reason. They foolishly want to stop a people who are citizens from doing what they themselves aimost glory in carrying out. Intoleration is THE OURSE OF IRISHMEN, All the trouble that bas ever come upon them has resulted from the dogged spirit of intolerance that they at all times manifest, no matter what the sub- Ject ts.” “Then you think a little toleration necessary ?”’ “1 do, and I am satisfied it would cure all the aim. onlty. Ihave seen men in the course of my life who have made fortunes and brought themselves into public notice simply because they were op- ‘Domed, I ypve peen_ men wha, with ngthingwabyy ‘alt stick to tneir ground tena- thrust forward, all because ‘hey met with opposition when they started and somebody thought they must be men of mettle and ought to be taken up,” We you think, is the case witp the Orange men “Decidedly, All this opposition and intolerance is bringing the Orangemen into more prominence than they could otherwise get, and the result is that ing abou one wa ir abeshine want pound og it thé mi Ww aympathize wit because they think them aggrieved. ae “Then you would let them parade?” “f think they have a8 good @ right to walk the streets as the Fenians. They are jizens, and en. titled to all the privil of Americaas, was the Mayor! sould issue @ proclamation for- bidding such public denonstrations,” “I have no doubt you would make @ very e@o.ent Mazer, Father.’? “I would try to stop rowdyiam, wherever it came from. 1 would stop that procession, because it will only create artot in the streets that must be dis- gracetul to every one concerned and the city in Which 1¢ ocours. '” Stiga’ zea think, sir, if the cle called a meet- ing of these men’ and advised shem to preserve order it would have @ good effect 1?! “I don’t think the clergy ought to interfere any Jurther than they have uiready, The Irish have been too long under THE INFLUENCE OF THE PRIESTS, The the sooner selves the better. They have been babies long enougn.”? “But th:s is a religious question.” “They are making a religious question of it, and ertp Sen the less the priests have todo with it the “The leaders on both sides ought, certainly, to be men of sense,” “so they are in most other things. Now, what good can it posmbly do King Billy, in hia coffin, at this distance of tame, to celebrate his memory ?”” “It certainly can do no good.” ‘No; and the probability 1s that it may do a great deal of narm, If it was @ thing that was likely to resalt in good to some one, or have a beneficial eilect, why, then, every one would support If, out ag 1t 1s the object it serves Is to keep alive animosities bes: Cry nae vent buried Years ago,” Ln’ e Catho! OV ULAti Be thug wort of hollc povulation seeim Very inten hart at “Well, naturally enough; and the e ‘ tune about the whole affair is Rants ae women moat, They are the party of the otfended who take the insult most to heart, and have leu Opportunity to Rosen lit ty. Per.aps that’s why the men take it up so read. “I should no* be surprised if it was.’ “Well, they cau stop im the houses and not look at the parad “ “Yes, bit all the time they know tt Is going on, ana simply shutting it out or sight does not put away the Knowledge of it. The Irish are a very sen- sitive people, and they look upon this tung as & wrong and on insult.” “Upon that ground you think it ought to bo steppe tn “Well, no; I think it onght to be arevgpied Rg: cause it 18 likely to cause 4 alstarbandd, on thi one side they have the bad taste to burt the feelings of a large por¥on gf the Comminily I think the other side ought to have toleration enough to take ho Notice of it, But as the matter now stands, with one party evidently prepared to have the proces- sion, and the other one determined to meet them with weapons if they do turn out, I think tné au- thoriiles ought t put o stop to the occasion of a breach of thé peave,”” _ “df they have the privilege to turn out the authori: ties Can’t interfere.” They bave that right undoubtedly. Stil!, tf their exercise Of the privilege leads to a mot the officers of the law have the power to stop {t.’? “Do you apprehend a riot, then ¥"” “1 trust there will be nothing of the kind, yet I am afraid, if the procession 1s allowed to go out, that there will be @ disturoance."’ “The Archbishop spoke very emphatically on the subject on genday? “Yes, That will have a good, wholesome in- fluence, and no doubt will do more towards keeping @ gol influence up than anything elge.”’ “You spoke on the subject, too, Father Farrell.’ “Yes, 1 gave them my view of it, I think itonly ‘Wants a@ little toleration on tne part of our people to do away with the thing altogether, If they did not mind it at all Orangeism would die out of its own accord. The best abused man in the world I su; pose is the Pope, yet he never takes any notice of it, and it does him no harm.’ “His enemies don’t spare bim.” “Not @ bit of it, They have consigned nim to ail kinds of places more times than one could count, yet they have not had the slightest effect towards sending him there. If I was going along tne street and a fellow called me an old Catholic scoundrel and I continued on and took no notice of him, I would not be the one that would be injared, but nin, for every decent man that heard him would either cry shame, or be ready to kick the fellow. “He would deserve ti.” “Well, perhaps he would; but I ought not to be the one to give it him.” “You think it is the same with Orangeism?’? “Ido. if it was let alone it would die out of its own accord. The good sense of the community Would kill it, But now that it is meeting with so much opposition people have taken it up that be- fore would not think of noticing it a¢ all.” “There will be none of your parishioners who will be likely to join in the méiée 7’ “There may be; J don’t know.” “The men who will get into that fight don’t ive in this neighborhood }’’ “Catholics of almost every class feel hurt at this sort of display. The French were annoyed at the it carried out id we would jans were to celebrate some victory their arms had gained over ours. We would not for a moment allow A NUMBER OF RRBELS to parade the streets tn commemoration of some one of their victories. Why, even in England the battle of Waterloo 18 no longer celebrated in consideration of the feelings of the French pecple, and it seems tome that here in America we ought to be able to get along without wanting to open.y insult and annoy one another.” “But this Orangemen is not a national affair.” “That’s the worst of it. 1f it was @ national holl- day there would be no right in denying a people's privilege to celebrate it. But being a Vicvory that One class of a people is commemorating over an- other part of the same community it ought not to be allowed.’” ‘einai trust the authorities will take your view of it, “Well, Ih they will take some such vi ot and event ploodshed."? ntety “1 evident the authorities are pre- "1 Ope io.” re What Father Mooney Thinks. A HERALD reporter calied on Father Mooney, of St. Bridget’s churci, Tompkins square, last evening, to ascertain the Irish Cathoitc feeling in that dis- trict, Father Mooney is of opinion that no riot or disturbance need be dreaded on Wednesday next, He believes that there isagreat dea: more noise made about the matter than has been called for. He 1s particularly severe on tho sensational press, whose evident designs are to fan the flames of sec- tarian animosity and to make capital out of the miserable excitement that may result from their evil enterprise. He looks upon the whole move- ment as @ political one, whi fs oe object the cle weakenii of the influence Tey on the minds of the Catholic Pe dpe The enemies of Cees ne thinks, hope to le to say, “See with what littie effect the priesthood now appeal even professing Catholics as lo! ‘a8 ahrowe polltte cians work against them.” This is because the; know this Orange question will be generally looke: upon as @ religious question, while they are aware i is 28 gnc thing. J can only say ( Father looney) that if any rioting does take place on this occasion it cannot be laid at the doors of either Catholics oy Irishmen as a base The Catholic riests have done their duty and the leading jay rishmen have done theira, and those who manifest @ senseless opposition to their counsels are neither good Catholics nor good Irishmen, OPINIONS ON THE BOULEVARDS. How the Boulevard Boys Mean te Mingle the Orange d the Green—What the Priests Can Do—Treadiog on the Tail of the Orange Coat. As the 12th of July approaches the excitement in the rival Irish camps becomes deeper and more tn- tense. From the indications given at present it would appear impossible to avert a collision in the streets, in which blood will Now and many lives be lost. Perhaps the most uncomfortable sign is the absence of noisy or boisterous declaration as to the course intended to be pursued, So far as outsiders can judge both parties seem resolved to enforce their own particular vicws without regard to con- sequences, and a@ the moment of trial approaches numbers of recruits and sympathizers are swelling the hostile iorces, until they threaten to assume THE PROPORTIONS OF REGULAR ARMIES, Should a conflict be engaged and the worst pas- sions aroused, it fs impossible to say where the riot may end. Both parties seem to think that tne citi- zen soldiers are likely, if a confitct ts really engaged, to range themselves according to their sympathies, without reference to tne orders of the State. The urangemen, It would appear, have counted on the active protection of tne Seventy-ninth, or Scotch regiment, while the Hiber mians do not conceal their expectation that in case the Beventy-ninth takes part with the Orangemen that the Sixty-ninth will be found ready to protect the Hibernians, lib founded as both these rumors undoubtedly they have entered for something into the of either party, and are firmly believed by the rank and file, A HERALD reporter visited yesterday the dif. ferent gangs of men engaged in quarrying and read Dullding between Fifty-ninth and 110th streets, atid: CONTINUED ON TRUTH PASE, @re allowed to think for theme | No Abatement oi Violence. Dreadful Conflicts Betw: Military and the Mx Terrible Fighting = tn Nineteenth Street THE MILITARY COMPLETELY COLONEL JARDINE WOU: A Captain and Lieutenant of 1 New York Militia Killed Terrible Slaughter of tl diers and Populace FORTY DEAD BODIES ON THE MORE PERSECUTION OF THE N THREE OF THEM HA YORK STREET COMPLETELY § Immense Exodus of th ored Population. THE GAS HOUSES THREA' General McClellan Volu His Services. Important Action of thi mon Council. Two Millions and a Hi the Conscripts. Governor Seymour Oppo Martial Law, Conflicting Rumors as to the of Colonel O’Brien. Afflicting Circumstances %: ing His Death. His Body in the Bellevu pital Dead House. Sacking of Buildings Twenty-first War Excitement Around the | Avenue Arsenal. MORE TERRIBLE FIG HEAVY LOSS OF | THE HOWITZERS DISC) HOUSES BURNED AND § Disturbance Corner of Gi Mangin Streets, The Above Was the Alarming; in the Herald of July 1€ When Mob Law Rul WHAT IS THE MATTI Does the Boss’ ‘‘New Depart claimed in the Wigwam Fourth, Indicate a New Subservience to Mot There Was No Cringing Eight Years Ag The Majesty of the ] Vindicated Th ‘Ig Tammany Getting 1 the Times?