The New York Herald Newspaper, March 28, 1871, Page 5

NAPOLEON. Farewell Interview at Wilhelmshohe With the Herald Correspondent. THE PRESENT STATE OF FRANCE. Bignal of the Political Commotion Which is to Perplex Lurope. THE FRENCH ELECTIONS A FRAUD. They Do Not Truly Express the Will of the Nation. THIERS AN INTRIGUING WIREPULLER. | ‘here but six, NEW YORK HERALD, TUESDAY, MARCH 28, 1871.—Q Jy and whqh, on the evening of the 4th of Sep- tember, he was leaving the Tuileries on foct, leaning on his staff, he was conducted through ‘the dense crowds and protected by two Belle- ville blousemen, He is an amiable and highly interesting old man, who never speaks of the Emperor except in terms of the sin- cerest devotion. I also encountered the well known German author, Dr. Cohn-Mels, whe has been staying at Wilhelmshihe since the arrival of the Emperor, who is often admitted to his presence, and is engaged in writing a history of his imprisonment, which, when pab- lished, may be expected to reveal a number of tateresting and piquant details. RELICS OF SPLENDOR, I ‘was ‘conducted by Mr. Gamble ‘to the imperial stables, which he entered with a sigh, saying:—‘‘In Paris I had 750 horses— My stables in Paris looked like ‘handsome saloons—here you see”—and he ‘sighed again. My attention was particularly ‘|-engaged at looking at ‘‘Phoebus,” the horse the Napoleon’s Critic'sm of President Grant’s ‘Message on New Germany. ‘WitHELMsaonE, March 8, 1871. An ‘idtimation having been given me that Emperor Napoleon III., previous to his depar- tare from the Castle of Wilhelmshihe, would metibe adverse to granting another audience to your correspondent, I took the express train from Berlin to Cassel, and thence a car- wiage, by which I arrived here last night. Waving greeted several former acquaintances ‘et the Schombardt Hotel and sent a note ‘with wmyeard to M. Pietri, he requested my visit in ‘a.polite reply on the afternoon of the follow- “ing day. Promenading through the :magnifi- soent grounds and woods I noticed the first ssymptoms of awakening spring—some of the iplantains already showing thick buds. But as T reached more elevated portions snow was a@till lingering in the ravines, and the lakes and reservoirs which feed the renowned fountains and cascades were still covered with a thick verast-of ice. Yet the temperature was almost summer like, the firs lining the horizon on the north were covered with green ‘meedles and the sward below appeared in the same hue; the whole landscape breathing peace and sunshine. Far below me lay the beautiful and celebrated castle, once built by Hessian Palatine out of the proceeds of the sale of his subjects to England to help her fight the revolutionary American colonies, And now the glorious United States, the asylum of liberty, has become the home of the de- ecendants of those legions who once for blood- money were trafficked away by their ruler to easist in subduing that same country. And, again, that very casile lying yonder in the fall glow of that setting sun is now serving as the prison of a monarch, dethroned and east out, andif the signs of the times speak traly, himself typical of the setting sun. What an abundance of romance does not the history of the world afford! INTERESTING ACQUAINTANOES, Returning to the hotel I renewed acquaint- ance with M. Charles Thelin, the treasurer of the Emperor’s chatowille, and Mr. Gamble, the piqueur-commandant of the imperial stud. The latter is an Englishman, who has been twenty-five years in the service of the Emperor, a very gentlemanly and fellow, who never loses his good humor unless some one attempts to say aught against his master. Then the smile vanishes from his lips, his brow is knit and his fists close invol- untarily, while his form stoops as if prepar- ing fora pugifistic encounter. To him his master is the perfection of all human beings. He is very religious, remains closeted.on Sun- clever «days in devotion, and only distresses .himself . that no place is left in the Divine Trinity for Napoleon III. Such is the fanatical Jove be -herishes for his benefactor that a position at ithe head of all mankind seems in his eyes insufficient for him. His affection for France, ‘I presume, is much less. I even suspect that the has not grieved much over her defeats, vat least since the 4th of September. His favo- site mode of swearing is, ‘‘As true as all the ‘mperor’s enemies are blockheads .or canaille.” M, Thélin has been no less than eixty-two.years in the service of the Emperer, and his reminiscences go back almost to the ast century. He was first a jockey of the Empress Josephine, the equerry to Queen Hor- tense, afterwards her valet de chambre, and then that of her son, whom he has never eft since 1817. His face lit up when he spoke of the Prince’s visit to New York jin 1834. Coming from Brazil they landed at lorfolk, whence they proceeded by land to lew York, putting up at the Washington Hotel, on the righthand side of Broadway a little above Park place. He well recollects the Freneh café opposite, ‘Mille Colounes’,” and close to it a French oyster saloon with the pompous name, “‘Au Rocher de Cancale.” He played an important part in the escape of the Prince from Ham, and here had the\mis- fortune to break aleg. This same leg he acei- éentally broke a second time, when the Prince became President of the republic, and a third time during the empire, so that he i¢ now’ obliged to brace up his old but strong frame by a walking cane. He has great influence over the Emperor, and this not only from long habit, but mostly because he employs the access always allowed him in proposing to the Emperor and carrying out deeds of benev- olence, He bag nota single enemy in Paris, Emperor rode at Sedan. He is a splendid i bay gelding, and cost $9,500, was owned by the Empress, and was given by her to her consort on the day of his departure from St. Cloud. Next to him stands ‘‘Heros,” who was paid for with $2,000, He is the Empe- ror’s own horse, but—don’t it seem almost a satire ?—did not come into action in this cam- paign. THE ANTECHAMBER, At the hour appointed I repaired to the castle and confronted M. Pietri. I found him as affable as ever, but depressed in spirits. 1 learned from him that it was owing to a catas- trophe which had befallen his family. His nephew, with whom he had been reared, and who was the French Consul General at Cairo, had been shot down a few days previously by a fanatical republican countryman. He con- ducted me through a large hall, where the General Prince of Moskowa was on duty as adjutant du jour. I also greeted the Ordi- nance Officer of the day, Colonel Count Law de Lauriston, There were also present General Count Reille, Viscount Pajol and Prince Joachim Murat, who greeted me, his American countryman, with a friendly nod ; as did also Baron Corvisart, the imperial physi- cian. As I stepped forward to the adjoining saloon I met i THE EMPEROR NAPOLEON Il. who advanced, shook hands and welcomed me as an old acquaintance. He looked ia exceed- ingly good health—indeed, if possible, more robust and ruddy than when I last saw him. Toe room now occupied by him isa spacious one, lying on the opposite side of thatiformerly used by him, and selected because better adapted on account of its being furnished with tall German stoves to protect him against the rigors of the season. POOR FRANCE—POOR PARIS. Being seated and having exchanged some courteous remarks, said the Emperor—Since your last visit, sir, momen- tous changes have taken place; almost every day has been marked by important events, The sufferings experienced by poor France are greater than words can express. You. live in Berlin ; I presume that city looks gay and fes- tive. When you left it was there .anything known xbout difficulties said to have arisen in Paris? CoRRESPONDENT—The wires reported noth- ing serious; an attack was meditated upon St. Pélagie, but the guard had been strength- ened and measures taken to keep down the mob in the suburbs, Emperor—Poor Paris! poor Paris’! trouble seems to be in store for her. Alas! the whole country is drifting towards anarchy, which, while spreading over its whole length and width, may not be confined to France alone, but may even affect the other countries of the Continent. Experience has taught us more than once that the firet signal Much of political commotion in Europe was given by | France, Corresponpent—Is the Bordeaux Assem- bly powerless? Does it not represent the will +) of the nation ? NO GOVERNMENT IN FRANOE, Emperor—No! Indeed not. To call this Assembly, the successor of the illegitimate Government of National Defence, a fair expo- nent of the will of the people is an absolute falsehoo?, and no one knows this better than M. Thiers. It is an indisputable fact that the elections for this Assembly were completely controlled by the Gambetta republicans, who, leaving the defence of the country to loyal citizens, had greedily seized upon all the offices, THEIR RULE WAS ONE OF TERRORISM, Men. enjoying the confidence and esteem of their fellow citizens, loyal adherents to the empire, were forced to flee the country. I could name hundreds of such, Here area few who just occur to my mind—viz.: M. Forcade de la Roquette, M. Segris, Louvet, Baraguay D’Hilliers—all gone to-Spain ; M. Maurice Richard, General Lepic, -General Beville, Count Bouville, gone to Italy ; General Henry, Pietri, Schneider, Jerome David, &c., &e., gone to Switzerland; M. Rouher, Drouyn de L’huys, Clement Duver- nois, Count Clary, &., &., to England. Al- though the insensate decree of M. Gambetta, which excluded from eligibility all who had ever served under former governments or been proposed only as candidates, was abrogated thirty-six hours previous te the election, yet this shart space of time was insufficient to make known the said abrogation throughout the eighty-nine departments of France, still less to inform those who were abroad and would have willingly returned. Hence comparatively so few imperialists in the Assembly. This, however, is not yet the full extest of the in- justice committed, THE ELECTIONS MANAGED BY THE OREATURES OF M. GAMBETTA \were not conducted fairly and impartially. Agihenticated accounts will prove that in hd district, the population ~ of which\ is known to favor the empire, the voters were ignominiously maltreated by the re- publican \officials ond their tickets refused; rural peoph', who had come from afar to the polls, were gkept waiting outside for five long hours, after whieh, thoroughly fatigued, and seeing no chance to register their voles, they were compelled to return home. WHAT REPRESENTATIVE ELECTION IN FRANCE MEANS, Indeed, representative elections in France have hardly ever resulted in what should be expeoted—viz., expression of the real public opinion, The first Chamber, which sat in 1815, was generally called ‘‘introuvable ;” all the Chambers since have partaken of the same character, stoutly opposing that which was actually carried out, and afterwards received universal approbation. This is clearly shown by the history of France, and by that of my own government. I always had to look away from the representatives if I wanted to find out the will of the nation. This is a fact which will certainly surprise your enlightened American citizens, but which is due to local influences and preferences, which, when brought to bear upon the minds of the masses of the French people, essentially deficient as they are in the rudiments of political intelli- gence, become all-powerful agents. THE ONLY SAFE WAY TO REAOH THE SIMPLE- MINDED PEOPLE is by direct appeal, by plébiscites, which in the revolution of 1794, and again in 1796, were sanctified as the fundamental law of the land— plédiscites which confirmed the rule of Emperor Napoleon I., and thrice.my own rule. You now see, sir, the great disparity between na- tional sentiment as expressed by a plébiscite anda turbulent Assembly of representatives, unfairly elected, such as that at Bordeaux. OONTI'S DEFENCE, CorREsPonpENT—-What does your Majesty think of M. Conti’s unsuccessful endeavor to plead your cause in that Assembly ? Emreror—He certainly meant well, though he might have selected a more favorable mo- ment, What argument could prevail against unbridled passion and party ambition, against the factions of legitimisis and Orleanists, re- publicans and reds, each contending for power over the other in that Assembly ? CorrEsPONDENT—To preside over it is cer- tainly no easy task. INGRATITUDE OF THE MEN WHOM NAPOLEON ELEVATED. ‘Emreror—I could almost wish that many of my enemies were of so honest and impartial a character as M. Grévy. But the saddest ingredient in the cup of bitterness is the almost incredible ingratitude of many of those who owe all they are to me, whom I have ‘raised to rank and position and treated with unlimited confidence-and friendship. M, THYERS A ‘WILY POLITICIAN. CorREsPoNDENT—Will M. Thiers succeed in carrying out bis programme? Exprror—M. Thiers is a wily politician, avery skilful intriguer, He has grown old in plotting and shifting. I will give you an instance. I am credibly informed that on the evening of September 3 M. Thiers was approached with a proposition to proclaim the Prince Imperial as my successor under the regency of the Empress. ‘‘I heartily approve of it,” he replied; “‘it is an excellent idea, and the only way in which we can give the country a really constitutional government.” Only a few hours later, on the morning of the 4th, in the Corps Législatif, he delivered bimself of the most violent expectorations against my dynasty, and was foremost in. breaking up this, the only legitimate Assembly in France. CorrEsPONDENT—Now, does your Majesty think it likely that M. Thiers will long remain chief of the executive power ? Emprror—Anything may be expected from such a smart wire-puller. The Bordeaux As- sembly had but one mission—that was to de- cide upon the continuance of the war or ac- ceptance of conditions of peace. Having done this it ought:to have ceased its functions, in- stead-of being converted into an arena of reciprocal vituperation and calumny. As for M. Thiers, some day, if the wind should seem favorable to him, he may pronounce in favor of the Orleanists. Or again, he may try to pro- tract an indefinite state of things, a condition of suspense, so injurious to the welfare of the country. * * * How is the feeling towards me in Germany? What do they say of me there? HOW NAPOLEON 18 REGARDED IN GERMANY. CorrgsronpENT—Your Majesty is aware that all the public interest in Germany was absorbed by the sole thought of peace. Some grumbled that Belfort was given back, but the great majority hailed with enthusiasm the final return of peace. Amid the joyful agitation, I ‘must needs avow, that little or nothing was said of your Majesty’s dynasty. I heard no expressions of sympathy, but also none to the contrary. Emperor—Indifference might more easily -be endured than measureless calumny. Let me give you an instance of the unwarranted attacks, as virulent as they are false, made against my government. They amount, sir, to an utter falsification of history. Unscrupu- lous enemies assert that at my instigation twenty thousand and more lives were sacri- ficed on the Boulevards. On the 2d of De- cember the number of victims amounted in reality to about two hundred on each side, and probably less than one thousand wounded. The same slanderers are silent about the far greater tragedy under Cavaignac’s dictatorial rule, June 14, when the number killed was over three thousand—among them one arch- bishop and eight generals. WHAT NAPOLEON INTENDS TO DO. CorrEsponpENT—I presume your Majesty's stay here is almost at an end, and that, for the present, your Majesty intends to retire into private life. Emperor—I do not think that, strictly speaking, it should be called private life. All my efforts shall be unceasingly directed against the rebels who have conspired for the ruin of France, which is the only hope to them of carrying out their sinister designs. These men I will force to make amends to my poor people, which they can only do by asking directly after their will, and then submitting to it without opposition. An energetic gov- ernment, with honest men, may soon heal up the wounds of France. But the power and aathority of these same men would be blasted at the outset did they not receive it im- mediately out of the hands of the people, CorRESsPONDENT—Your Majesty knows too well the sentiments of my countrymen than to doubt that all their wishes are for a prosperous republicaa government in France. In case this should prove impossible, only then do I believe that the great majority of them would rather see a Napoleonic dynasty, on the basis of a plébiveite, than the Orleans or Bourbons, on their claim of inherited and Divine rights. Still, Icannot give up all hope that France may succeed in establishing a durable and thriving republic, WHAT HE THINKS OF PRESIDENT EULOGY ON NEW GERMANY. Emreror—Your President, General Grant, does not seem to share such a hope; for to a certain extent he seems to foresee, with much political acumen, the early collapse of our pseudo republic. How else could he have emptied euch a cornucopia of panegyric over the monarchico-f.deral system of New Ger- many? GRANT'S CONCLUSION, Thinking that an hour's time for a farewell interview was more than could be reasonably expected, especially as the Emperor exhibited less equanimity of temper than in our former conversation, I rose to take my leave. Though of a winning and engaging tem- perament Napoleon’s mind seemed to be pre- occupied with care, which he tried in vain, during the interview, to dispel by the fumes of a cigarette. But, though he took up one and again another, it was only for a few whiffs and then to lay it aside as if convinced that even the services of nicotine were failing him to-day. Having had some forebodings, without indeed knowing why, that he was not in a very cheerful mood I commenced and car- ried on the conversation in French, instead of English or German, expecting thereby to facilitate matters, It may have had the oppo- site effect. The Emperor's features remained rather rigid, and I could perceive no change as [ made my obeisance and retired. Bowing to the gentlemen of the suite in the hall I re- gained the hotel, whither, later in the after- noon, the Emperor came for the first time since his arrival at Wilhelmshibe, to return the visit of the Princess of Moskowa. This lady, with her two sons, had on the previous day taken leave of him, in a very touching and affecting manner, preparatory to her de- parture for Geneva. As soon as the Emperor, looking very much agitated, left the hotel the Princess witb her sons drove off, ber husband, of course, remaining near the person of his Majesty, and the rattling of the wheels of her carriage soon mingled with that of your cor- respondent's, NAPOLEON AT WINDSOR. Queen Victoria—Family Reception and an Address of Welcome—Enthusias- tie Greeting by the People. TELEGRAM TO THE NEW YORK HERALD. Lonpon, March 27—P. M. Tannounced briefly by cable ¢o the Heratp, at an early hour this morning, the fact that his Majesty Napoleon the Third would visit Queen Victoria at Windsor Castle to-day. I have now to report, for the information of your readers, that the royal intention has been fulfilled. The ex-monarch of France has just paid his respects to the reigning sovereign of Great Britain and been received cordially, just as he was when, in the plenitude of his power, he eame over from France and lodged ins tate in Buckingham Palace. Bonaparte, during his visit to Windsor to- day, remained an hour in conversation with Queen Victoria and her family. An address of welcome wag made to him by Lord Stanley. Marshal Canrobert’s children were present. The grounds around Windsor Castle were filled with a great crowd of people, who cheered the ex-Emperor heartily wherever he made his appearance. SPAIN. Legislative Organization—Provincial Agitation. TELEGRAM TO THE NEW YORK HERALD, MADRID, March 27, 1871. Ihave already reported to the HERALD, ina series of cable telegrams, the facts connectea with the im- portant constitutional event of the holding of the Spanish elections, the peaceable manner in which they were conducted, and the hopeful sign which was given in anticipation of a generous citzen sup- port of King Amadeus’ government by the result. To-day I have to announce, from inside the hall of Cortes, that it 1s regarded as probable that Don Bal- domero Espartero, Duke of Victoria, wiil be chosen President of the Spanish Senate and Don Sebastiano Olozaga President of the Chamber of Deputies. A republican band of radical agitators has made its appearance in the Province of Lerida, CUBA. Deerce Regarding Duties on’ Exports from Cuba. HAVANA, March 27, 1871. The Gaceta publishes a decree in which it 1s or dered that on and after April 1 an export duty will be imposed on the following articles:—On gugar, per box, seventy-five cents; per hogshead, one dollar and fifty cents; on molasses, per nhogshead, fifty cents; wax, per pound, ten cents; rum, one dollar; raw tobacco, per pound, fifteen cents; cigars, per thousand, seventy-five cents; on island lumber, three per cent;andon and after Julyla duty of ten per cent Is to be imposed on ail geods imported. Other local taxes are to be augmented, and the procecds of all are to be used to redeem tne notes already issued or to be issued by the spanish Bank and advanced to the Treasury for war purposes. Fighting in the Eastern Department—A Rebel General Kiiled=Steamship Arrived. HAVANA, March 27, 1871. It is reported that a series of engagements have taken place m the Eastern Departinent between the Spanish troops and the insurgents, and that the Joss of the lattcr in killed alone 1s nearly one hun- dred, The insurgent General Acosta was killed near Bayamo. The steamer Frances Wright has arrived from New York, JAMAICA. Steamship Collision—The Lezisiature—Under- writers’ Investigation. Kinston, March 27, 1871. The Rising Star, while coming to anchor in this port, ran fou) of two vessels and injured them, and before she could be got under control she came in collision with a third vessel and forced it asnore. The Legisiature has passea a bill prohibiting the sale of petroleam and other similar combustibles below the standard of 100 degrees Fahrenheit. Lioyd’s agent, who arrived here a short time ago to investigate some marine mishaps, has concluded his labors ana returned to London, where ne will make @ report, He made public here no part of the Veatlmony taken 1p the several casea, UADRUPLE SHEET. ANTONELLI.| Interview Between the Cardinal and a Herald Correspondent. THE PRISONER OF THE VATICAN. A Cardinalistic View of Strategy and Generalship. THE PAPAL ZOUAVES The Cardinal Gives It Heavy to the Italian Cabinet. THE GREATEST INIQUITY OF THE AGE. No Guarantees Will be Accepted from the Italian Government, Rome, March 8, 1871. This morning I went to the Vatican and had an interview with Cardinal Antonelli. Our conversation lasted half an hour, and his Eminence was very cordial throughout. He is the real Pope, so that a chat with him is worth more than one with his Holiness Pius IX. One thing struck me as soon as I alighted from the carriage and found myself within the holy precincts of the palace: it was the very different aspect of men and things from that worn there when I hada similar interview some nine months ago. I did not expect to view such a marked con- trast—one just as strong as that I have ob- served in the city of Rome itself. On enter- ing one beholds a slipshod appearance every- where, inthe courtyard, up the noble flight of stairs, even in the ante-rooms of the “Secretaryship of State.” The Swiss sentries either to be impatient about their functions or bewildered about their own existence; the very ushers look utterly indifferent as to who comes or does not come and twirl between their fingers the visiting cards presented to them, as though visitors could be of little avail at the Vatican now, profitless to the Cardinal, the Pope and the Holy See, One is made to feel sensibly the difference between an audience with the mighty man last year, then a ruler and with the airs and surroundings of a ruler, and the powerless ‘‘prisoner” of to-day, who cannot 80 mucaas touch a hair on the heads of his late subjects—a potent fact known to bimself and to them, and who is to be encountered now apparently brooding over the momentous changes of the last year, as quiet as a cat in a corner, seem THE CARDINAL may still be himself, but that he is at present under a cloud is proved by the fact that no longer are to be met in his ante-chambers awaiting his nod and beck these personages of the higher sort, such as diplomatists, great ladies and fine gentlemen, who coveted an entry into his sanctum this time last year. The attendants now being of a more common hue, I did not have to wait long before being in- vited into his presence. Not a year has elapsed, yet he offers much more of reduction or contraction, so to speak, in personal appearance, than that period of age should naturally have produced in him. With gold spectacles on his nose, he sits peering over a letter which he holds in his hand, and does not rise with the elastic courtesy displayed when I saw him last. He puts on a smile for the occasion, and draws himself within himself for a talk. Notwith- standing all the attacks and insults of the mob and the new Penny press (now engaged in pub- lishing a scandalous biography of him, which they deal out in broken doses every. morning) he shows none the less the marks of intellect and composed bearing. His plain, dark gown and skull-cap, his somewhat worn look, and a quiet, passive attitude of contraction, as if he were waiting for something or somebody, change considerably the Secretary of State from what I saw him last year—these are the first striking points. Then histone is differ- ent—he is neither patronizing nor inquisitive, only appearing indifferent. He may be await- ing or not, but one is sure, in glancing at him, thus seated, that he ison the qui vive, and that nothing will be allowed to escape his watch at the proper moment, If persevering acuteness could restore the temporal power of his Holiness Cardinal Antonelli would be the man for the business. He showed some curiosity in talking about the war, and warmed up a little when we struck the quick of the situation at Rome. He goes out of the Vati- can rarely, and, if it were not for the protec- tion afforded by the picket of Italian soldiers and gendarmes atthe entry of the palace, under the colonnade, there is no doubt that his MANY PERSONAL ENEMIES IN THE CITY, aggrieved by the measures of his late govern- ment and newly stirred up by the publication of the biography aforesaid, would endeavor to strike at him for vengeauce. The stationing of this picket of the national forces there is not devoid of a farcical tinge to one on the spot, who may be cognizant of the friendly feelings existing between them and the Swiss sentries only six yards off, guarding and peer- ing through the great portals of the palace at visitors to ask if they are ‘‘all right.” If Prime Minister John Lanza, from Florence, was to present himself, the Swiss would refuse 5 experlences and observations during the cam- paign, ABOUT THE WAR. CarpivAL—I am very much iuterested to hear about the war, which has been truly wonderful in its rapidity and productiveness of great changes. It seems almost incredible— that Emperor, with 150,000 men, to be beaten and swept away so suddenly! Of course peace should have been made after Sedan; then France could have received much less disastrous conditions than those just imposed upon her. The least idea of good policy would have counselled that course, But, as things have turned, GAMBETTA AND HIS COMPANIONS IIAVE SIMPLY RUINED FRANOE. There must be now 600,000 French prisoners in Germany. CorresronpeNt—I replied that the number had been increased nearly to a miillon at the end of the struggle. CarpinaL—That must have been a rough campaign of Prince Frederick Charles against Orleans. I dare say there never was a better organized army than that of Prussia; but the secret of its success lay in the fact, according to my opinion, that that army had a head, for armed men without proper direction are not soldiers to gain successes, ‘ MOLTKE SEEMS TO HAVE HAD A WONDERFUL FORESIGHT which in action secured him the victory. Ne doubt all the movements were nicely calcu lated on his side, while on the other side there was no chief at all. There must have been t great change in the Ring; he must have had ¢ rade work and suffering to undergo in the las months ? CorresponpENtT—I saw his Majesty just be fore leaving Versailles and repeatedly durin; the siege while he was visiting the cas tles and interesting localities around th French capital; he always seemed in th enjoyment of the best of health, and all wh saw him were astonished at the unusual vigo and activity he displayed for one of his year in moving about among his troops, If chang there be it lies in his title which from that « King over a province is become the Empero over a great nation. THE PAPAL ZOUAVES. CarpinaL—It must have been a hard tim for all engaged in this war in France. Yer, have heard that the zouaves fought ver bravely, They are very well discipline Poor people! poor people! (Pauores gens pauores gens/) Colonel Charette may not t adapted to command, but he is a very bray man, After this little remark, which seeme to bea kind of parting tear shed over tt Pope’s army fallen near Orleans, not w mixed with an ironical manner in the she: ding, I thought matters had been brought ne; enough home and I seized the opportunity inquire mildly into the present situation Rome and into the doings of the rulers therec THE GREATEST INIQUITY OF MODERN TIME CarpinaL—Yes, great chaoges have be imposed upon us here since the war cor menced, They profited of the fact that tl French were beaten and had to withdraw the troops from these States, and at once can here to commit the greatest iniquity (la pl grande iniquité) that ever was committe They waited shamefully until France was occ pied elsewhere to come and occupy the cit) and when they did come, what could we d We had perforce to submit, and they ha been doing as they pleased here ever sinc regardless of all decency, morality, justic rights, NO SURRENDER. CorrEsPoNDENT—I see now that the Parl! ment at Florence is occupying itself with d bates upon guarantees to be offered for t independence of the Holy See and the Cure guarantees, however, which I admit do r seem to offera very absolute independenc since the law retains the last decision up any dispute or occurrence always against yo (I ventured to touch upon this delicate subje of the debated guarantees, The sore point his Eminence being hit upon, the one whi most affects him in his present debilitated a and dilapilated condition, he at oace assum a keen, bitter tone of voice and, with a moc ing look, said :— CarpinaL—They are occupying themsely with guarantees, (This last word was p nounced in the most inimitable felicity of cc temptuous sarcasm and irony—a, style in whi the celebrated diplomatist has passed mastei “Guarantees!” We know that Jesus Chr gave to the Holy Father the right, as } successor and the successor of the Apostl to rule his Church; but we never knew befi now that he bequeathed to them (the Iialiar the permission or duty to conc “guarantees” for the purpose of tablishing after what way the Chu sball be governed, guarantees which all Cat! lics on the face of the earth, and the Pc first ‘of all—le Pape tout le premier—will fuse to accept. Oh, there is no transacti possible with them ; you can say so; there y| never be any between them and the Chure “Oh, ib n'y a pas de transaction possible a eux ; vous poures le répéter, il n'y aurajam de transaction entre eux et UEglise jamai [These words were spoken by his Eminer with emphasis, with flashing eyes and wit very serious, obstinate play of the other f tures of his face.—Correspondent. } END. I retired from the interview with the impr sion that I had received a copy ef the secc edition of the work known under the title “Non Possumus, by his Holiness Pope P' 1X.” “What will they do with it?” is next question In regard to this work. Here people believe firmly, every day more, tha will not secure a sale among the Power Europe, Catholic or Lutheran, aad that its t publishers put it on the market all along as sham, they really intending to make th him admittance—it is se ordered. Whenever the Swiss cannot keep back importunate callers the gendarmes and ex-Papal officers who fill the Vatican courtyard are called into requisition, As I passed I saw @ good 1 many of these on duty, but there are assuredly not enough of them to muster fer a holy crusade, as the Italian press asserts every hour in the day. My conversation with the fallen states- man was in substance as follows :— THE INTERVIEW. Tinformed his Eminence that I had been spectator and a follower of the war, and, at hig demand, gave him a brief account of my fature liveliood by going into partners! with a certain Fioreace fi-m. SWEDEN. MBP 2 IR Tilness of the King-Royal Condolence, TELEGRAM T) THE NEW YOAX HEaAL0. LONDON, March £7, 187 Medical builetins have been issued fu tis’ which announce to the public that his M jesiy King of Sweden “is suflerag frum @ reap ¢ ol recent sickness."” 1 have just learned that “the Crown Proves Princess of Deamark”’ have set out (0 Visit buh