The New York Herald Newspaper, May 20, 1868, Page 10

' Exeiting Scenes im the British | Parliament. John Bright Denounces Disraeli as a Traitor to the Queen and Ccuntry. “igh Crimes and Misdemeanors” and “Shutting Up Great Men in Small Rooms.” che Cunard mail steamship Russia, Captain Cook, ‘which left Liverpool at eleven A, M. on the 9th and Queenstown on the 10th May, arrived at this port dast night, bringing a mail report in detall of our cable despatches dated to her day of sailing from England, A grand féte and ball to celebrate the marriage of Prince Humbert, of Italy, took place in Venice, which was participated in by a large body of English and American tourists. The officers of the United States corvette Canandaigua assisted at the festivi- ties, which, under the management of Mr. Lowen- thal and Howard Paul, proved a brilliant success, The Liverpool Mercury contains a letter from Brit- ish Columbia notifying the existence of serious ap- taitichment or tenance of Rea nowinariouat Is ar collier", Bub seeing that you b eh at it never can approve, still it exisis, tioned by Parliament for thirty ye eatd that (he next Parliament woul Well, but it is | ovide that that system is Wholly inapplicable to Ire But in any case your system in that country mast be partly | denominational, because there are many districts in which the ulation is entirely Koman Ca- tholic, and here, ‘age a matter of course, the schools must be —practicaily denominational, If, therefore, you pass this resolution, the result would he this—but] was about to commit an error, there would be Wo resuit whatever, because no future Parliament would feel itseif bound by the resolution in the slightest degree. (Cheers and counter cheers.) That is perfectly true, We are asked to paws this resolution to express merely the opinion oi taose gentiemen who sit in this House at the present moment. It muy, however, be that many persons may hereafter adduce it as an ar- gunieat that the’ House of Commons had vn this subject if we were to assent 8 Pee caithough, of course, @ futare Parilament would not care one farthing about it, If my honor- abie friend proposes to himself to eifect anythiag at all he ought to stop at the word discontinued.” But with regard to the latter part of the resotution I, for one, could not give it my support, and if it is put to the vote I shall Cone divide against it, on the ground, first of ail, that it has no reference to any legislation proposed to be attempted during the pre- sent session, and, in the next place, because I will not have my hands, or vote or voice tied up against any proposition which may be made afer for assisting schools for general education in Ireland, which must, as I said before, be in a large portion of the country practically denominational. On that ground I will vote ust the latter part of the resolution, while to the first I have no objection to offer except that it is unnecessary. (Cheers. Mr. GLADSTO.E said:—My honorable friend who moved this resolution made an appeal to the govern- ment which was not answered, and in consequence of that ap) 1 did not rige to address the House because I did not consider that 1am in @ position which renders me principally responsible for the conduct of. the business of the House, prenensions regarding an “intended Fenian raid on the colony. ‘The London Express notices that the divisions on the Gladstone resolutions show an extraordinary confusion of English par‘ies—liberals and conserva- tives together pell-mell, and in one case the chiefs of the Cabinet absenting themselves to @ man, ‘The Emperor of Austria congratulated the British Ambassador at Vienna on the success of the British troops in Abyssinia. 4 Mail advices from the Cape of Good Hope to April MM state that a large party in the Orange Free State had protested against the assumption by the British government of the protectorate of the Basuto Terri- tory. Government was, however, taking energetic measures in the territory and bringing 1t into a con- dition of security. Many years since the names of the late Ear) and Countess of Mornington were constantly appearing in the English journals in connection with efforts made by her ladyship to enforcéne payment of an annuity settled upon her by her husband, The recol- jection of this somewhat ancient episode in the private history of the family is revived by a judgment in the Court of Chancery, London. The Vice Chan- cellor decides that the Countess’ claim is a just one, ‘and orders the payment to her of a sum which, with interest, will amount to more than £22,000, For twenty-nine years this case has been before the law courts, Cardinal Bonaparte, in conformity to the desire of the Pope has definitively renounced his projected journey to France, Tne Qneen of Spain lately sold a necklace to Madame Musard for £24,000. The ex-Queen of Naples as followed her example, and sold a pearl aud @iamond necklace, which has been in the Neapolitan Foyal family for several generations, to a celebrity of the world of Anonymas of Paris for 215,000, Salvator Patti, the father of Mile. Adelina Paiti, Wtites to the London Post to say that the statement aeto his daughter having been married Ia totally untrue. ENGLAND. Church Disendowment in Ireland=Catholics and Presbyterians to be Included=No State Ald to Religion—Parlinmentary Encounter Between Gladstone and Disracli—Johu Bright Takes a Hand. An the House of Commons on the 7th instant the Consideration of the Irish Church bill was resumed. Mr. GLADSTONE rose to move his second reso- Jution, affirming that it is expedient to pre- veut the creation of new personal interests by the exercise of any public patronage, and to conflae the (Some laughter on the ministerial side and cries of «ffear® from the opposition.) Though that may be so, yet I veup grea: renponatoilig in the tthe House and v Di ol ofthe country. ‘There is no man who will be more owing to any weak- ness, rashn or cow’ ae tits it undertaking tis matter presenta tiselt dow fhe thist-When matter present ry — Tlook to Ireland 1 see @ rt of State endow- ment, I gee that system interwoven with many social ments, possessed of great power, su! Ported by ile ministers of the Grown. ahd’ ca‘eflly identit most , Lhave no doubt, bya arty, Wit at the dic- honeatly, ‘h the influence of the Church of , appears to me to he tate of common eense when any one has arrived at the conclusion that this great system of endow- ment and establishment should be brought to a close, he should very carefully consider the order of his proceedings. Now, conside! that pans, T have not hesitated to touch the . ion of the ‘ant to ba ettea and ve sgid explicitly that, in my opinion, the Maynooth \dowment act must be repealed. (Hear, hear.) 1 have also spoken explicitly with regard to the Re- gium Donum, and have said that in my opinion that must come to an end. I cannot biame myseif for having dwelt too little on those matters, consid that the position 1 occupy is simply that of an inde- pendent member of Parliament, without official re- sponsibility, and I have not presumed to ask the committee to vote upon those matters, I am com- ‘ied to look to the mode in which this House, hav- ing before it a very great and ditiicult enterprise, may make its approaches to the fortification it wishes to take. (Cueers and laughter from the min- isterial side of the house.) The blishment as a fortification has been zealously defended, and we wish to take that fortification and to raze the Estab- Ushment to the ground. I therefore the House in the first place to take these pe which deal with the matter in hand; but my honorable iriend wishes to know completely what 18 to'be done in respect to al the porticulars which may arise in the consideration of this question. Mr. AyrToun explained that he wished to know what was not to be done. Mr. GLapsTone—My honorable friend asked fora full explanation of my views—. Mr. SINCLAIR AyTOUN—It 1s possible I may not have expressed myself clearly, but what I meant to fay Was that it is desirable we should have a com- plete issue before us. 1 do not mean that the details of the plan of the right honorabie gentleman should be made known, but that we should have a clear un- derstanding as to whether or not any portion of the funds of the Anglican Church should fe given to the Roman Catholic Church, (Ministerial cheers), Mr. GLADSTONE—My honorable friend does not ask metogiveaplan. In the place where I stand it is not competent for me to form one; it would be the height of rashness for me to doso, (Hear, hear, There is no grant at present that I know ot to the Roman Cutholic Churen in Ireland except that conveyed by the Maynooth act, and that act I have already said, in my opinion, must be repealed. I feel some difficulty as to the form in which cases of that kind can be dealt with by legis- tion, because there are no vested interests in either of those cases of a nature known to law. But I agree with the right honorabie gentleman and my honorable friend that, both as regards the final ar- rangements and the suspensory act, the same princl- ple ought to be applied first to the Estabtished Church perations of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners of Ipeiand 0 objects of immediate necessity, or such as involve individual rights, pending the final decision Of Parliament. They proposed the reso‘ution, he @aid, for reasons of a political and of a practical char- acter, The political reason was that it was not de- sirable to pass abstract resolutions without follow- tag them up, and for his part he would never be a party to that proceeding. A charge was made inst them on the other side that he and jose who acted with him had not acted sincere- Ww in the matter, but were actuated by party motives. He declined to bandy assertions and nega- tions. They convinced nobody, But the best proof they conid ‘give of their sincerity was to give effect to their Ce declaration by banging in 4 measure ‘80 carry it out, whicy he proposed to do. The other reason was of a practical character, and it was that it was desirable to prevent a fresh crop of vested in- terests growing up before final legislation could take pan ned subject. Inthe bill which he intended bring in he should propose to suspend the power of maki Er ene capitular or parochial appoint- mente til the Jet of August, 1809, No incon- venience, hé believed, would ve sustained by this SS as there were provisions in the Charch mporalities act, ge! Application of which ar- —— nts migut made for the performance of the duties, The resolution did not apply to livings ‘under private Pee. There were but few of tvem in ireland, the buik of the livings in that coun- iy beng in the patronage of the bishops or of the Mr. G. Hanpy said he wished to explain the posi- thon of the goverhinent 1M reference to the resolu- tious. They bad sustained as ‘a defeat upon the fist resolution as it was possil to do, and with a view of bringing this session to an end it was desir- able not to discussion on the resolutions, but it inust be distinctly understood that the govern- ment gave no assent to the resolutions, and gave no ige a to what tuey would do with regard to the i when ft was introduced. But he observed that while there was « restriction on the irieh church theve was no restriction on the intment of fresh feasors tO A.A, u0O0Lh, or of recipients of the aynooth graut. On the part of tue government, tuerefure, he should recommend that there should be no division on the resolutious, though the govern- — Would mee. them w.th a negative, Ne FeROIMUCD Was Put and tcheers, bs a 4 division, i hoped ame VLAUSTONE moved the third resolntion—t SD address be presented to her Majesty praying that ‘With & View vo (he prevention of new reonal inter- @ats through the exercise of any Duthie trons Ber Majesiy will place at the disposal of ‘lament eer interests in the temporalities of the arch bishop- rica, bishoprics and other ecclesiastical Aignities and benetices in Ire.and, and tn the custody thereof, Mr. 8. AYToun Ly eo forward a resolution de- that when the Anglican Chareb in Ireland ts @isestablished and disendowed the grant to May- Booth and the regium donum ought to be discontin- ued. He said he cordially approved of Mr. Glad- stone's resolutions, but it was important that there shoud be no ambiguity in this matter, Any propo- sition to endow the Roman Catholic Church would Hands bat by the whole a aed rhe Ad ig of Bootland. a ' IN Bar a leh to make t! in regard to this resolu miscae ton, that it ts one of avi ‘imerent Pad Ot Now expreag- ing an cpinions na to it to effect from ] ‘those which have been to by the com. | mittee. The thy judions already to ‘were necessary for the par of the founda- tion of a measure which it is hoped the House will pass during the present session. re, there was nothing lo them of the nature of what is called and then to the ‘um Donum and to Maynooth, The only question now remaining for our considera- tion Ls rm what manner it is most convenient to deal with the matter In detail, and thatI hope to have time to consider, I presume my honorable friend will be disposed to drop from the resolution the mat- ters that are not within the spirit of the rules that govern this committee. TI refer to that part of the motion pipes: to Maynoo:h and the State funis, I ap,rchond that the motion will then stand tis form:—“That when the Angil- can Church of Ireland shall have been dlses- tablished and disendowed it is mght and necessary that po part of the secularized funds of the Anglican Church be applied in any way or under any form to the endowment of the Roman Catholic religion in Ireland or to the establishment or maintenance of Roman Catholic denominational schools or colleges.” I cannot vote forit. The propositions I have asked the committee to vote are perfectly simple; they are tainted with no adverse consequences, But this isa very solemn matter; it must stand the test of severe criticism, Disestablishment of the Church ts what we have primarily in view; general disendowment as a rule and as an ultimate aim with respect to bodies of religion in Ireland and without any odious distine- tion must evidently follow, and 1s plainly involved in the pi Abont this there can be no dont, bat no consideration of policy will induce me for’ one moment to take ee of & particular state of feeling which may prevail on some of those benches Opposlte—(cheers)—to ape ye momentary favor by ab act unjust toa portion of my feliow countrymen, and which J feel to be incompatible with my posi- tion. (Loud cheers.) Sr G. Gre had hoped from the tone which pre- vatied in the eat 4 part of the eveoing that we might have avoided violent discussions, und that the night nit have been devoted to the progress of business, but the course taken by the government during the jagt two hours has effectuaily prevented this, Listen- ing to these digcussions, 1 au more and more con- vinced that if we had declined to enter upon them, following the suggestion of the Ohair, we shoud have avoided a great deal of embarrassment to the House. We are discussing a question which can have no practical eifect during the existence of this Parlia- ment. It isa mere abstract resolution, not brought forward with a view to a nd cannot in the slightest degree be binding on any future Pariia- ment. (Hear, anda laugh.) To those who oppose the Regium Donum aud Maynooth | would it that they are giving a new eee tee ee ey i Church is are practically saying that until the eee and disendowed these grants shall continue. Mr. DISRAFLI—The i honorable baronet has, unfortunate, for along time absent from our discussions, and that is really the only way in which Tean root vip ge Myce he has now made. (* fy - ~x4 has made upon Lg a oyied have ne foun. dation whatever. (Oh, oh!) The sounds I hear are @ecither logic nor language. (Hear, hear.) First of all, the right honorable baronet accuses the govern- ment of preventing the committee from comlug to a conclusion on the resolutions of the member for South Lancashire, Now, I thought that, #0 fur as 1 could control the business of the toaclear understanding with the it gentleman, and so far influenced conduct of my friends around me, that the course of busl- ness might be tly facilitated; I do not, therefore, think 1am Open to any charge ground, (Cheers) Then the right leman accuses me of allowing amendmen to be made on this side of the H ; frere mevanoves on this side of en it seemed to occurred honorable baronet that the ‘samondinents “ai Come fromm this side of the House, but he said th Were contrary to the apirit of the = y! 1g haye suy en the Chair, "yer e Shar. i Ait OF gcide ef Wére conti to the spirit } t a raat th The decision of the “ 0 rable member for. heey ee Fe that has led to the discussion, 1 am pot respon- Su abstract resolution; and nothing that nded in any way to bmd Parliament or any here. ait Xow, the Preseat reset myn = Semrent ol er, because it has, and can have wi ever w do with the bill which it i understood ts about to be introduced to this ‘House, And it bas this objection, that alth it may expressa the opinion of the House as what shall be done at a future th a ge election generally leaves out abont two hun red members who wat in the previous Parliament— ®laugh—and as anewiPariiament is @ different body, with diferent sentiments, acting from diforemt m0 tives and often under a diferent set of stances from the one that — to me to be no use whitever, us Tegange na eae pose of le,isiation, in passing the resoiution just moved a the honorable gentleman behind me. “On !”’) | To the first part of the resolution, as far as e word “discontinued,” 1 presume everyt would agree, because it has been stated over and over in im the course of these discussions that if Ly pee TAG ment the gran and the reyium donw would be withdrawn, (Hear, hear.) Hut Tovject to the words im the latter part of the resolution, be. use Teay the: Ree to bind the committee to that to which ft is in my opimion quite im. possible that this committee will consent ‘o bind itself. I ask honorable gentiemen if they have read the clause just to read the latter part of it again, It says:—‘And that no part ‘of the seeularized funds of the Anglican Church, or any State funds whavever, be applied in any way or under any form to the endowment or the Homan Cathonc religion im Irelan no longer an estab. b 08 01 ore regulator to the es } they neve in the gentleman sible for any amendment that has from other side, and it is always my wish So en port the decision of the Chatr. Am | tobe told that it of ie a ¥ the leader of the House to prevent tue tn- ‘ ay heat gion of opinion in this House? (Bear, There rable members on hoth sides ion that the observations t right enone tern aus ‘utterly, Unfounded soa ries et 3} As | re-entered the House I ‘ing made 1 ‘The duties deat ee duties of the view of the House, in order to give them my opini every poms tople, perhaps 1 should Hy no dec not alt ther the duties of the leader of the House, and should aut retain the regard and respect of those among Whom I sit. (Loud cheers.) 1 hays no doubt that when the honorable menibver for the Tower Hamiete Grrived at the po. sition of leader the House—(cheers und loughter)—this House find in iim a m their destinies 4 ‘Who now baumbiy en- RALD, WEDNESDA b it falls np: nnter.) "Wisi n only say that I isht honorable it eashire, (Loud suce txestabtishment of the Caureh in (re- jand, (Cheers.) What has recently amounted to what I have always c wouid take place, and what will be repeate v) has been a quarrel for tae plunder among the honor- abe gentlemen opposite—(ioud cheers and laugh- ter)—and I do not think that it was my duty to give an opinion upon such a subject, * rs.) Wirhre gard to the particular motion before the committee, that of the honorable quemier for Kirkcaldy, had jie import brincip! wi some degree invoives been Facet simply and plainly pefore us J should not Lave shrunk from discussing them, or from giving my opinion upon but those principles are mixed yp 4 this m with details of an impracticable character, which, if we had agreed to, wou'd have disturbed arrange- ments of avery anciext date in this country, and which the pable had iong as conducing to the convenience of the country, Therefore 1 was silent, (Cheers.) I must say with regard to the obs rvaiions of the honorable member for the Tower Hamlets that I am still of opinion that the manner in which I attempt to my duties as leader of this House és prefer to that ideat which, on seve- rai occasioas, he has affered to the admiration of this assembly. (Cheers amd laughter.) Mr. GuapstoNg—I am not about to defend the honorable member for the Tower Hamlets, who is perfectly capable of holding his ome, neither am 1 about to discuss at large the conduct of her Majesty’s government to-night. Bat if I do not proceed to dis- cuss that conduct at the present moment, it is be- cause I do not think that it is desirable to mix up that subject with the one before us, which ta already sutti- cient!y difficult and intricate, I must say, however, that I dot tuink that the right honorable tleman has been successful in the explanation he given. age The right honorable gentieman says that ¢ motion of the honorable member for Kirkcaldy would, if carried, have disturbed, in a remarkable manner, the its of avery ancient date, mode in which it was drawn this assertion the Minister is vote woes it. (Cheers.) With the whole of his coileagues he left the House, seeking refuge in that small apartment which is ap- propriated to him. sence has by sayings. At the time when noble Trend Earl Russet] was paymaster general accommo iation of nis oMce was very limited, and the right houora- bie gentleman sald, ‘J object to the. m Of shutting ‘up great men in small rooms. ( Tpon this complete enter into, In ahewer tothe honorable member for Devizes, 1 must inform im that Iam not responsible for the resolution w! is about to be adopted. I have no dificulty—e: t the formal one I have already mentioned—in ing to it, but I am not its author. it to me that the time has now arrived when it would be satie/actory to the committee if the minor subjects connected with this question were s'ated with the same precision with which the BaoF subjects have been stated, and that, therefore, We shor our meaning clear by applying to the minor subjects tue very words which we have used witn regard to major ones. Mr. WuIrsREAD wished to know whether the amendment proposed by the last speaker was not out of order, as being substan’ the same az one which bad been already di of. The CHA:RMAN sa.d that there wag an obvious dif- ference between the two amendments, seeing that one proposed to A Rre the application of any part of the funds of the Anglican Church to the Roman Catholics, whereas that now proposed proposed to prohibit their application to any institutions of other Teligious denominations. Mr. Bricut—1 think it is a great misfortune that a subject of this importance should be brought before the House in this way. I think the honorable mem- ber opposite and myself hold very muci the same opinions upon this subject, but I object to the word “institutions” as contained in his amendmént as being a very wide-one. I don’t know what it includes or What it exciudes aecording to the inter- pretation of the honorable member, but I think it is sufticlently wide to include schools. I objected to the motion of the honorable member for Kirkcaldy very much, on the ground that it would prevent, any sum of money obtained by the disendowment of the Anglican Church in Ireland, or any portion of the State funds being appited to any denomina- tional schools in Ireland. My objection to that motion was founded on the fact that in Ireland it was utterly impossible to have schools which were not denomina- tional, The same thing is proposed to be done by by the present amendment, and therefore I cannot vote for it. If any honorable member {3 desirous of proposing any resolution or amendment upon this subject he should take care that his motion should be couched in terms which are not liable to be mis- understood and will include just what he intends to be included and will exclude just what he intends shali be excluded, When amendments are brought forward in this hasty way it is absolutely impossible for the commnittee to discuss them with satisfaction. If the right honorable gentleman opposite had exer- cised his influence on his side of the House as the right honorable member tor South Lancashire has done on this side we should have settled this dimeuit matter long ago, and the resolutions would before this have been reported to the House. Lhope the honorable gentleman will see no difficulty in with- drawing his amendment. Mr. GLADSTONE—I am persuaded the honorable member will be anxious to give every opportunity for considering the proposition he has mace, wud he Will not expect us to bind ourselves to the very terms which he regards as a vital and fundamental condi- tion of the greatest national establisiiment, or rather disestablish ment—(hear)—ever proposed, without our seemg the words or knowing what they are, and being compelled to ask them over and over in from the Chairman. 1 therefore distinctly claim from the honorable gentleman that the words he proposes shall be placed before us in print and that we may have the op) ge fs fally considering them. ‘That Be claim which, I think, every equitable man must allow. Sir S. NortHcoTr—A very important expression has just fallen from the right honorable gentleman. He said this qnestion touched a it national establish- peed but he corrected himself and said disestablish- ment. Mr. GLADsTOoNE—TI did no such thing. (Oh, oh!) 1 had to encounter interruptions, and to avoid opposi- tion I said “disestablishment.’” (Oh, oh!) Sir 5. NorTHcore—The right honorable gentleman certainly used the word “disestablishment.” (Hear, hear.) I think it can hardiy be wondered that now we have arrived at this poiut, and hondrable gentle. men begin to see what is the practical be of these resolutions, they should ask some questions and endeavor to arrive at a clear understanding as to what they have Lage! done. (Hear, hear.) It may be necessary to take a little more time to consider the resolutions that may grow out of those that have been already passed; but no reproach attaches to those honorable gentlemen who, on the first occasion they have been called on to consider what has been done, have va forward some questions which they think ought to be answered. Mr. GLapstonr—The right honoradie gentioman rose to reply to me, but I take the liberty of saying that he has made no reply, 1 threw no rep’ on the honorable gentieman. 1 asked for time, und the demand for time {8 80 equitable that even the right honorable gentleman cannot decline it, I ought to recollect that the en honorable gentleman's mind must be filled with the questions which he gave us distinct intimation he had within him, and which he intended to propose in committee. He said he would Cig the first resolution; if that was carried he would papers the second resolution, and after the second he would ag the third resolution— hear, hear)—but the pollt exigencies came upon im which made the redemption of those pledges in- convenient—(hear, hear)«and we need not be sur- prised if a little of his pent up matter bas irregularly spent itself. (Rd and a Jaugh.) An honorable member on the opposition side re- marked that on his election he was questioned re- specting the Irish Church, and gave a decided opinion upon it. ‘The question having been again put from the chair, and Mr. Holden having been asked how he voted, Tepito “I vote with the ayes.” (Cheers) ¢ tellers then announced the nuimbers:— For the amendment Against... Majority against the amendment. Mr. Whithread’s resolution, as a put and agreed to as follows:— ‘That when legisiative effect shall resolu. pe < Ary commie Tespectig the b iy ened "harek of and necesaa: of Maynooth and the iy yt Guo regard being hed to kil perecoal Inteoe Mr, GLADSsTONE—I move that the Chairman Ore att Coen aera a I do na ne to of the resolutions, bat I think thee at hes oacurred as ICRA WPA aa have introduced these resolutions to the H only fotucss L amaatarat ni the elements of . cheer “No?” from the op) jon.) iu hale bd Mr. 41D hot aware, sir, that armythit tod etd ic could have aiforded the Neaetauie er the opportunity of which he has ‘availed iimself of firing @ parting shot the resola- Hops. (4 laugh.) But the Na a Hon of the right ho le gentieman himself, as shadowed forth by his Irish ister, was that he should the Roman Catholte clergy of Ire’ and. tole Pre position cheers) that he al iid t louble the Regium Donum. 1 taink the right hon- orable tleman may learn from what hag to-1 how sinall @ chance he would nave in this House of passing a measure for the endowment of the Roman Catholte clergy. If Fes that ion fairly before the House possibly would not have made great confusion, for in all ae he would not have been able to induce n men of his own party to follow him. Atany rate, ao far as wo are concerned, we have taken op} course, A large majority—tie |; that has ever voted on any since 1841—has sanctioned the resolutions that have been introduced by the right honorable gentleman the member for South Lancashire, And we find that, notwithatand- ing @ d many archbishops and bishops—I am on faminar with all the Vn yr > dignity in the Established Church—but deat rectoms, vicar#, curates and other clergy- men of every order—notwithatanding 0} have met and made a general it it the policy that has been pursued by the jonse, yet I in * t rh the countey who would #upport theok e wheet nderati by of the wl he conree Which majority of im favor | that he Y, MAY 20, 1868.-TRIPLE SHEET. ) L with undertake | sant convietious | ns in @ part i men on pub- © not in favor Iretand which we | House has adopted, (Loud cheer: the projnai ro. ag30c ation and ty ‘hy you will find few thoy Nie questions In this kingdout ¥ of the great measure of just: are endeavoring to advane jere is nO Man on either side of this House Wao will undertake to say will find aay men by any species of selection or any inicroscople snvestipa sian, in any country in the world, who have a claim to intelligence and knowledge on public questions, who would not give their sanction and approval to the policy which the House has pursued. (Cheers.) Sir, I am as much interested in the peace and prosperity of Ireland and of the United Kingdom as any gentleman on the opposite side of the House can be, and I have for more than twenty ears taken @ strong interest in Irish questions. I have deplored the condition ot that country; I have felt it to be @ scandal to English statesmanship, and I have said so here often and often. I have held con- sistently for twenty years tie convictloa which the right honorable gentleman at the head of the govern- ment himself héld then—(loud cheers)—and which», if it were possible now to put him under an accurate examination from which he could not flinch, he would be obliged to say that he holds now—cheers— because, on a recent oceasion, he admitted that the main sentiment of that speech which he delivered tweuty-five years ago was right. But Lam in a dif- ferent position from the right honorable gentle- man. V4 have not been endeavoring to climb the of parliamentary promotion and noto- riety, (Cries of “Oh! and cheers.) No, air; I have only had the single object—so far as T have had anything to do with Irisa questions--1. Promote what appeared to be just to tat country, and whieh would tend to the advantage of the o ited iom, The right honorable genieman the other ht, with a mixture af pompousness ane sometimes of servi loud cries of ‘wh !? —ta'ked at large of the interviews which he had had witn his sovereign. I venture to say that a Minister who de- ceives his sovereign—(renewed cries of “Oh, oh !’’)— ts as guilty as the conspirator who would dethrone her, (“Oh1") J do not charge the right honorable erpegss with deceiving his sovereign; but f he not changed the opinion which he held bees years ago, and which he has said in themamn ‘was right, then I fear that he has not stated all that i was his duty to state in the interviews which he had with his Let me tell honorable gentlemen opposite, and the right honorable gentle- man tn particular, that any in this country who man ate the sovereign in the front—(loud and con- inaed chee! from the opposition)—of a great strug- gle like this into which 16 be we are about enter—who points to the Irish people, and sore trom the floor of this Hol “Your Queen holds Jag under which we, the tes equality and justice to Ireland, are mar: (cheers and counter cheers)—I say that the Minister who does guilty of a high crime and a great mis- demeanor against hi Le hiba and his country. (Cheers.) And there is no honor, no repu- tation, there is no glory, no future name that any Minister can gain by conduct like this that will ac- uit him to posterity of one of the most grievous of- oes asalnay his country which a Prime Minister can pone bly commit. (Loud opposition cheers, and ministerial cries of “Qh, of !”” Mr. DisRaBLI—Sir, the right honorable gentleman seve that heheard from me lenge which had never been before ised by a Prime Minister. (Hear, hear, from the opposition.) Well, sir, what was that lan- guage? Isaid, as @ summary of debate the materi- als of which must be familiar to almost all now pres- ent—that when the resolutions of the right honorable ntleuan Were reporied, it was opinion that from what had occurred to-night he might judge what eiements of confusion had been introduced in- to our proceedings. (Cheers.) I will only say this— tuat if that be language which under the circum- stances has never been used by a Prime Minister, a Prime Minister has never used for the occasion ap- propriate and sensible langaage (Cheers and wwaghter.) If any one had en present at these debates and had heard the various pro- positions that were made in consequence of the passing of the right honorable gentieman’s resoiu- tions, #0 contrary, so considerable in their operation and in their influence, and indicating the opinions of the various sections of this House, representing, 1 have no doubt faithfully, the opinions of large por- tious of the populations of this country—I say, if er one had been present, and had heard those pro) - tions, and wouid not admit that they indicated the coniusion of the public mind in consequence of the right honorable gentieman’s es he would re- frain from making an admission which 1 am sure every frank nature would wiilingly make. (Cheers.) More than this, I say that what has occurred to-nigit is an indication af still further confusion on the sudject; and I cannot doubdt that long before we can arrwe at anythin Uke a settlement of this question we shail we among the propositions made in this House, and made Jrom diferent sides Of that will much TTusotpline and. Gleposttton of agfect the present discipline ai m of par ties, becquse they wit more fai 'y reflect the con- science and the convictions of the country. (Cheers.) Sir, 1 won't notice the observations of the honorable member for Birmingham. He says that when it was my duty to make a communication to the House of ofthe greatest importance, and which t certainly wished to make, as I hope I did make it in a manner not unbecoming tue occasion, 1 was at once “pomp- ous and servile.’ Well, sir, if it suits the heat of a, acrimony to impute such qualities to me, any gentleman may do so—(cheers); but I am in the | Washington Deserted by Politicians aud Cure WASHINGTON. ‘WASHINGTON, May 19, 1868. pet-Baggers. Washington is nc w overshadowed by Chicago, and for the nonce has lost its interest for the tribes of Politicians, who have been fleeing Westward from it during the past three or four days to other and more exciting scenes, What with the exodus of the immense host of political hacks, wire pullers, Presl- dent makers and Congressmen, together with the sudden departure, the Lord ynows where, of the swarm of omnivorous carpet-baggers, the pertina- cious office hunters and the lobbyists, for whom no work exists, Washington presents a dull appearance, and must await the return of the great tide from Chicago before it can resume its wonted interest. Ex-Governor Pierpoint, of Virginia, on Affairs in Hie State. Ex-Governor Pierpoint, of Virginia, who ia here in Washington, tells a strange story of the way affairs are managed in the Old Dominion. He says he wag turned out of the gubernatorial seat by a combination against him composed of Judge Under- hill, General Brown, the head of ‘the Freedmen’s Bureau, and General Schofield, the head of the military department. He asserts that these three are the real rulers of Vir- ginta to-day, and that Governor Wells recently appointed by Schofield is a mere factotum of Underwood's, and that all the offices in the State of any moment are filled by members of the ring of which Underwood is the centre. Schofield, he as- serta, removed honest and respected citizens to make room for the adventurers who happen to be friends of Underwood. Pierpoint declined to take a share in the transactions of the radical sharpers in Richmond, and this he says is the reason why he was set aside to make way for one who would. Senator Fowler Not Likely to Attend the Chi- cago Convention. Senator Fowler will hardly go to the Chicago Con- vention, to which he was elected as delegate at large from Tennessee. He is still here, and shows no dis- position to eacounter the fanatical fury of the radi- cals assembled in Chicago. Suit for Damages Against Mr. Stant: Mr. John Nagle, of Prince William county, has brought a suit for damages for the sum of $20,000 against Seoretary Stanton, for injuries done his house and farm by sume cavalry sent down by order of Stanton in the summer of 1865 to Prince William county, Rencontre Between Two Men at Willard’s Hotel. Acollision took place this afternoon near Wil- lard’s Hotel between two men named Jones and Robbing, in which the latter fired a pistol at the former. He missed him at the first shot, but struck him,in the temple with the second and then clubbed him over the eye. The police made a timely appearance and raved Jones from being kilied outright. No Quorum in CongressMembers Going Home. There was scarcely a quorum of members in the House to-day, and it is believed that a quorum of Senators is not in the city. As it is believed no legis- lative business will be transacted this week a num- ber of members will leave to-day for their homes. Loss of the Bark Kate Stamler. Our Consul at Liverpool reports the loss at sea of the bark Kate Stamler, of Hoboken, N.J., and of the arrival of the officers and crew at Liverpool, ex- cepting one man, John Johnson, who died of starva- tion and exposure on the day the others were picked up. The officers and crew were rescued by the brig Mary Ida, of Yarmouth, N. 8., and afterwards trans- ferred to the American ship Gardiner Colby and taken into port. Resignation of a Navy Surgeon. Surgeon A. B, Judson, United States Navy, has resigned his commission, and the game has been accepted by the Secretary of the Navy. Army Resignations Accepted. The President has accepted the following resigna- tions of army officers:— Captain Hancock T. McLean, Sixth cavalry; First Lieutenant Wm. P. Schall, Fifteenth mfantry; First Lieutenant Andrew Campbell, Nineteenth tnfantry; Second Lieutenant George R. Walbridge, Sixth in- ee} and in the feellng of geatiewen on both sides of the House—(loud cheers)—and, fortunately, there are gentlemen on both sides af tts House, (Re- newed cheers.) They will judge of the accuracy of such a charge. It is to their feeling and to their sen- timent on both sides of the House thai I must appeal, and nu words of mine, if that charge be true, can vindicate me. (Cheers.) The honorable gentle- yaan says that he will make no charge against me, — then panne Sanpete iy roe ped eves, e Ought to bring fo yas charges me, oe cheeray defy the Nor vember ‘irmingham, notwithstanding his stale invective, to come down to this House and subsiantiate any charges of the kind which he has presumed only to insinuate, (Renewed cheers.) Let him prefer those charges; I will meet him; and I will appeal to the verdict even of (the ae who sit on the same side of the House as himself, ee cheers.) Colonel 8. Knox—Pbeg to move that the question be raised—(cries of ‘No, no” and “Order”)—and that. the Chairman be requested to state his opinion. ‘No, no.”) The honorable and gallant gentleman did not per- severe in his motion, and the resolution was agreed to amid cheers and laughter, American Naval Seizures in War. In the House of Commons on the 8th of May, Mr. Beatinck asked when the Yo og relating to the con- demnation of the cargo of the British bark pote bok, by the Supreme Court of the United States, would be laid upon the table. oS Lord sone said the papers were now before the Jaw officers of the Crown, and would be laid on the table a9 svon as possible. MISCELLANEOUS FOREIGN ITEMS. The International Society for the Succor of the Wounded of Armies by land and by sea Is engross- ing public attention in Europe, and @ grand ball was given in Paris for its benefit. In 1864 convention ‘was signed at Geneva to preserve the strict neutral- ity of the society's personnel. Twenty-two govern- ments have adhered to it, and since its signature a number of committees have been formed in the prin- cipal cities, A eerloua misunderstanding threatens to take place in Algeria. The Archbishop of Algiers has collected anumber of Arab children made orphans by the famine. The prelate takes care of them and mant- fests the intention to educate att those who wish to be converted to the Catholic religion. Marshal Mc- Mahon, however, declares that the children must be delivered up to thetr ve trices when demand- ed. The prelate pi and deciares he will not consent. For the moment the question remains in that position. During the process of lowering @ coloseal bust of the Pope on to its pedestal, in the Place of the Holy Rome, by some accident the ropes broke ‘as dashed to pieces amid the involuntary a i the spectators. The an Te i work, some act on the part the revolutionary party, caused the workmen to be ‘The Vienna press informs us that M. Bratiano will visit the courts of Vienna, Paris and London on an extraordinary mission, to offer explanat! “a ing the late maltreatment of the Jews in Moldat ‘The recen’ North K \d to lower the price of Because here are no in the intertor of Russia, and the small q roads tity coll the immediute vicinity of the Aitronds cannot afer the markets" ‘The family of Baron Charles von Rothschild, who is about to undertake the North German loan, is to be rained, it ts said, at tank in Germany, and A Russian ukase in Poland onters all ms to Greased Uylany member of that body, ‘under penaley mem fi Pleasure trains con excursioniate between Bome and Florence at reduced rates during te late feativities of the marriage of Prince Humbert. bird singing th the North of Fran: considerable bets i removal into the fresh air and the rays of the sun Cause them to give utterance to their joy in song, on whioh the r ib tors betgsome fur the len song, others various melodies performed. ‘The Empresa of the French has decided that all children born in France on the 1eth of March. 1896, And therefore imperial sons, shall ail recet @ their firet communion at tie same tire as the rined Tmnerial. 2 am of momar wilt he bonded to eac. | fantry. WASHINGTON GOSSIP. WASHINGTON, May .v, 2608, The H®RALD’s exposure of Colfax’s propusiuon to Wade has produced much sensation here, and the shameless denial of the fact in the radical organ of New York may yet lead to an investigation such a8 Mr. Broomall proposed. Wade himseif authorized the statement that Colfax had called upon him and suggested his resignation as President pro tem. of the Senate as a means of procuring votes for im- peachment, or rather of removing objections to it. The consideration offered for this retirement was to be the withdrawal of Colfax and Wilson as com- petitors for the Vice Presidential nomina- tion at Chicago, while their rewards were to be the White House for Coifax and ‘she Presidency of the Senate for Wiison if the’ game succeeded. Now that it is certain to fall, Colfax eee to be very innocent. But Wade won't let ‘ima off, and the truth of history will be vindicated. It is’ quite casy to contradict what was never alleged. I did not state that Colfax was agaimst im- Peachment; quite the conirary, for all his plans of selfish ambition were staked oh conviction. Every- body knows that here, ie furious assaults upon Trumbull, Fessenden, Grimes, Fowler, Henderson and the ike, charging them with corruption an have pro- voked great indign: circles, and will undoubtedly end in a mighty reaction, which must sweep the Jacobins out of power. What is curious about these charges ie, that they come from the most notorious members of the lobby, A Bohemian writer for the radical organ in New York says that he wrote most of the violent ar- ticles for that paper, impeaching the int of the pe = Oar Ons = ul ed Mg e Was the nt of Jay ‘e & Co. during the war, and is now the lo! r of the Pacific Ratlrosd, of the Iron Tari in New Nork, of @ steel com- , and connected with all the floating jobs about M and all the venal combinations, he ts cer- the right man to impugn the motives of hon- Senators, Since the foundation of the government there never was a Congress so destitute of honesty and so shameless in its corruption as the present one. No bill ig oftered containing any ee aoe fe iio ind nage a ale ma pers in Pm The Rn ag coancl of New gn respectable body by com rr Fiseey refuses when here to with Fadical of their suspicious cl These “radicals peak ‘of the prices at witch is al ich they are valued and of he fortunes made by ind: viduals. The whole thing is monstrous and revolting to the me omy ig @ part of the demoralization P¥Grant is uch “discouraged at the tarn of things, now! ex. i g having openly advocated impeachment the persussion of bed adv who assured con- viction was a sure thing. He believes the bit- can party has gone to the and that its Snr lag gan Serta, bat no water may be done at ‘Chicago, sa it im twain. WASHINGTON, May T¥, 1808, id, blican United States Sena- ak Seek ar an ta not altogether unknown to the distinguished body of officials am: whom he claims @ seat. The honorable claimant was a member of the firm of McDonald, Fuller @ Sells, In- dian contractors. In the Senate debate upon trans- ferring the Indian Bureau from the Interior to the War Department, Senator Sherman read a portion of the statement showing up some of that firm's opera- tions, little thinking that an embryo United States Senaton was in the case. The oficial recoras of the first session of the Thirty-ninth Congress con- tain the following—(See Globe, part 4, page 3,552), I will read an extract from a memorial a hy facta here stated; but as they are presented regu- ny to us by them in @ written memorial complain- ing of certain grievances, I read their statements as aiteged facta, If they are true they certainly require some investigation:— sap ip rw 1 peg from the date of the prsenge of the aw wntll the end of that | year, Saree’ Ab, when the military author ities ceared to have aut! 1 to feed refugee jit nountt Sten ss all ‘hat baa since been ued iit escnte. These vores the commantt Fo fered to turn over to : 988 ‘by the contractors from the Indians at #5 a bushel and part um Ein by one Mi Ken, soho to wntlonae eh sa nian i at Bore GO partner of MeDonakty Fuller @ Sella at ghee nes ee buake End turned over a the baper SOR ge 4 amount of these ‘we are to state, but are satis thousand dollars, and we 1 hundred have information that i hay aor near al eee I do not to read any move froin various slegedons made by these Indians. I only read this much to show that when the War Department is charged with a certain portion of the duties con. nected with our intercourse with the Indians and tue Interior Department with another portion will necessarily be a egniiict of jurisdiction and great complaints of fraad and pevulation. This cer- tainly is a very serious charge which 1s alleged by these Tadians. It are rota uinat cen actual; being in possession of a large amoun res property through the War Department, which offered ‘o turn them over to the Interior Department—corn at $2 a bushel and flour at $3 50 a barrel—the Inte- rior Dea, instead of taking them, parchasea flour $34 a barrel anu corn at $3a bushel, It seems tome that if this kind of transactions can so on under this system of mixed responsibility it is time we should put a stop to it. Ihave looked the record through in vain to find any satisfactory explanation or defence against these charges, Senator Doolittle stated tiat the amount thus purchased was ‘for a very 8n.all supply, which the superintendent deemed necessary to take down with him.” The charge of buying corn off the gov- ernment for eighteen cents per busael and selling it back again at eight dollars per bashei is not even “tloticed, f Bealdes the ability to drive a sharp bargain with Uncle Sam and the Indians, I ain not informed of Mr. McDonald’s other qualifications; but the War Department records would, if exaniued, throw a little light. The Leavenworth Times, tho leading re- publican paper of Kansas, has the following, with which I close for the present:— We are both astonished and mortified to sce some of the republican presses of Kasas, claiming to oc- cupy @ conspicuous place in the ranks of the 01 iL gation, indelging in fulsome and extravagant adula- tions of Mr. A. McDonald, who has recently been elected one of the Senators from the State of Arkan! If any one of the journals referred tc know Mr. McDonald at all they kuow he is utterly unqualified for the high position of United Statce Senator. The very proposition ts ridiculous, and it lowers the charge of the profesdin. for ating newspapers to hold up @ man for waut ite is 0 can Tever become. Hon. A. McDonaid, United States Senator from Arkansas! If that isn’t enough to make a horse laugh nothing ever was | THE FORTIETH CONGRESS. Second Session. BOQUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. WASHINGTON, May 19, 1448, Immediately after the reading of the journal the morning hour commenced, and reports of bills, &c. were made from the Committee on Clatms, A VENERABLE CLAIM CASE. One octogenarian case, the claim of the heirs of Gideon Walkes, of Indiana, for services in the army from 1792 to 1795 was advocated by several of the Indiana members, but was laid on tie table. PASSAGE OF RELIEF BILLS. Bills were passed for the relief of Ward Talcott, Internal Revenne Collector of the Second district of Iimois, allowing him a credit of $766 for moncy lost by the robbery of his deputy. For the relief of Paiemon John, late Internal Revenue Assessor for the Thirternth district of Penn. sylvania, allowing him a credit o1 09 jor revenue stamps lost in transmission by mail For thg relief of Henry Barvacio, for the reissue of twenty-three land warrants lost by ule sinking of @ boat on the Ohio river, AN ADJOURNMENT REFUSED, the House adjourn to-day it adjourn to meet on F day next. Mr. THomas, (rep.) of Md., desired to offer au amendment providing for an adjournment from Friday next, after the reading of the journal, until Monday. ‘The SPRAKER remarked that that would requive unanimous consent. Mr. Upson, (rep.) of Mich., objected. The vote, on being taken by tellers. resulted—ycu~ 57, nays 4 che vote was then taken by bey and nays, ant Tesulted—yeas 50, nays 62. So the House refused to adjourn over until Friday next. THE CASE OF MK, WOOLEY. Mr, Morgan, (dem.) of Ohio, referred to the case vi Charles W. Wooley, of Cincinnati, whose attendance: was sought to be compelled yesterday by the Im- peachment Managers, and read the copy of a tele- gram sent by Mr. Wooiey to Mr. winghain at eleven o'clock yesterday morning from Willard’s Hotel, aski he be informed at what time he would be examined. Mr. SCHENCK, (rep.) of Ohio, also said that he had esterday exp! to the Managers his belief that in Wooley would attend and testify. NO QUORUM—ADJOURNMENT. Mr. WASHBURNE, (rep.) of Ill., made an ineffectual attempt to get the House into the Committee on the Indian Appropriation bill, but on a vote of yeas and nays, there was no quorum voting, only eighty-one members being present; and so the House, unable to do any business, adjourned at two o’clock until to- morrow. 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Mack 8 Mackerel, Shoulders, Fancy brands Cin a ie Sse” Whiteaeh, Beer, Extra sugar Sared Halibut, nut, Bugar eared stim ee Soap, Pork, P pe Ay Extra Refined Kerosene, goons. MITATION ret rma, Thre new Fae ‘ ty rome: Diiiard “Gal's @y and $10 fe Sheet, 88° tity Biz per 101. ‘io a a rot ped And Gilt Bleere ae. a, WELLING, No, Gil Broadway, New ¥ ERSONS WHO HAVE LOST MONEY GAMBLING CAN to Al Hatt A he lr arta 5 Wall at desideratum for families, dressmaker Eirorer 825 Browtway. Na GREAT RUSH, 4 Notwithstanding the confessed stagnation of business '* aeneral, the public crovrd at) be Pioneer House Furnialt te, Tabie Refrigerators, Ment Safos, ‘Cooking Ute: at rediaas wine, Mr. FARNSWORTH, (rep.) of Ill, moved that when,