The New York Herald Newspaper, December 30, 1861, Page 8

8 — aan INTERESTING FROM, "gOROPE. mall, BY ‘THE MUCARA ” Thurlow Weed’s Defence of Secretary Seward. THE REPLY OF THE LONDON TIMES, Very Graphic Account of the Seizure of Mason and Siidell. What Commander Williams Says of Miss Slidell. tWEBROSTING ScBNEB. Beorge Francis Train Before an English Audience, Reo, Rte, ae. Our Paris Correspendence. Paris, Dec, 13, 1861. Propagancism of American Democracy by the War Agila- on—Furopean Estinifh of the Dignily of the United £ States Government—The Sympathies of France and Gene- ral Seott’s Mission—England’s Hypoeritical Neutratity— Brenoh Report of a Coming Proposition from Jeff. Davis for a Setilement with the North on Amicable Bases—A Rebel Memorandum to the European Powers Spoken Of— The Money Anaidics of Napoleon~Pwltic Distress in th, Gity— PR Roman Question, de., ée. America is passing through the ordeal of fire. No mation ever became permanently great that did not do Mikewise. Her name is a household word in the mouths of children that a year ago knew not where to find her Joca) habitation on the globe. A} men, from the lowest rank up to the highest, discuss her pregent interests, her distant future. Again and again is her early history taversed, her past struggles for freedom, her guflerings, ber heroic valor, her triumphant emancipation from British tyranny, and her final constitution as a young nation embracing within iteelf the mighty elements of a power so overwhelming that the mind becomes dizzy in yonte mplating it. In raying this Tam employing no exaggerated language. At this momont America stands alone in the foreground of the world’s picture, With a mikerable rebellion faging on hor borders, whose hypocritical ories are tailing on the Old World to sympathize with it, and with ahe country who should have boon the first to have ex” tended the right hand of fellowship to her olfgpring when ‘thus outraged by domestic discord, ready to carry fire and slaughter into her midst, America presents a specta- cle to Europe—to France more expecially—of thrilling in. terest and of majestic dignity. It 18 quite impoesible that General Scott, who las so suddenly returned to you after bis short yisit here, can ‘carry back any other intelligence than thia—that the sympathies of all Franco, either as regards the rebellion or the violent and haughty tone Eng!and bas thought Proper to assume with respect to the Trent, are wholly with the government of the United States. Let there be no mistake about the fact, Mr. Everett's address on the “state or the Country,” before the Middlesex Mechanics’ Association at Lowell, in which he uses the words, “There is no right better recognized by the law of na- tions than that of the armed vessel of a belligerent Power to detain @ neutral vessel on the high scas to ascertain whether on board of that neutral versel there ie any- thing contrabaud of war, and that it is expressly laid down that among tho things forbidden are ambassadors Of either belligerent Power,’ has had an extraordiuary Mnfluence. The case of Henry Laurens has been ex tracted from ‘*Marghall’s Life of Washgggton”’ and print- ed for private circulation, and I bave been quite surprised to find 60 many families of all classes in full possession of the details of that arbitrary act of the British govern- ment. But there isa plain, common sense view of the ques tion gradually taking root everywhere. All men, in fact» Yoel that whon everything is known the breach of Eng- Jand’s pretended neutrality in this hideous rebellion will be much more apparent than at present. It is once more tho old story of la perfide Albion, What business had the captain of the Trent with the persons of Messrs. and Slidell at all? What business bad the English government to authorize him to convey them as pa: sengers? Their errand was known. Supposing their conveyance to be within the letter of the law, no one can doubt that it was directly contrary in ite epirit. It was ‘@ nasty, underhand violation of that boasted neutrality which has been just as flagrantly get at nought as ‘when, during the peace of Amiens, every species of euc- cor was being forwarded to the loyalists in La Vendeo. ‘Tho English government knew these men were its own agents. What may be tho nature of the message sent to the President by the imperial government here, through the medium of General Scott, of course is a State secrot. A ‘vague notion prevails that it is an offer of mediation be. tween the North and South; but that is not likely. It is, however, probable that the Emperor may be especially desirous to intervene with his good offices as regards the approaching rupture with England. Such a demon- tration ig cousovant with the policy of Napoleon; but T don’t perceive in well informed circles any real wish to aoe the quarrel drop. Only this morning the sem:-official Cmsiitutionnel talks of the advantage, commercial aud political, France would derive from it. The South would supply her with cotton, the North take ber mannfact and the carrying trade now monopolized by England ve ail ber own. It is remembered, too, that the Canadas are very vulnerable, and that French ‘nationality is not yet dead in those ‘far off regions. With 1,800 miles of frontior to defend, the British will have platy of work Defore them to Keep off Amsrican incursion, which will have to aid it also much invaluable railway communica- tion, In fact, all feel that thie is precisely oue of thoso t oceasions when a nation has an opportanity of either dashing to the foremost rank among its follows or falling forever prostrate. Mr. Jofferson Davis and his Cabibet, says the Presse, are engaged in proparing a memorandum to be addressed 10 all Europe. This document treats of the question of the eecestion, declates that the war undertaken by the Northern States will not lead to any result, and that the separation is already a legal tact. With a view, however, to prt an end lo a mwh lamented contest, and prevent great misfortunes, the memorunium will propose an amica ration or tasis to be decited in common—the Snithern ‘States being ready to agree toany arrangement compalitle with the dignity of cll parties. ‘An imperial decree in the Moniteur enacts that, as ‘it Je of essential importance that the charges of budgets should nos be augmanted without the Mnister of Finauco ascertaining if there exists sufficient resources to provide for them, henceforth no decree authorizing any works ‘Or measuircs which may add to the public expenses shill be submitted to the Emperor for sigaature, exco)t it be accompanied by a report from the Minister of Finance,”’ In plain language, the Eraperor is not to draw on his bauk- rs without having sufiicient assets to meet his check. To ray the truth, France is entering upon a passage in her history which is quite sufficient to make the Emperor anxious, Tt boots little to publish to the world that his son the Prince Imperial, though but five years and a haif Old, speaks three foreign languages ‘oglish, German and Italinn—if hie father’s expenditure has boet! #0 reck Joss that the young gentleman should find himself one day ‘an imperial pauper. There is great distress at provent raging in Paris, ‘Tho short harvest; the utter eessution of all orders from Am Pica, the fnmense taxation of England, causing acontr. ed expenditure; the exorbitant rents which the art prosperity of late yeare has enabled the propric al to ry exact, aud which now no longer can be paid; tie stoppage which has recently taken place in Par of such houses as — Delete ugh Bub quently patched up), combing the ge rai avowal of expenditure having exceeded ince what las been made by the government—a ie something almost approaching to a p very sinall itapetus would pro/uce one. The @ Seaton promises very little. Although the shops usual, are decked out with superior ‘niture tO ny with the annual ing. it is easy to perceive that this garnitu much of old things made new—olt wine with nev ‘Orcers are too slack without for the patron to give orders &thome, and a geveral polishing mp of last year’s novel ties has taken plaee. he proprietary of Paris area poor race. The best ‘A ouses are the property of tailors, cooks, perfomers, and ch ama ware, A gicam of sunshine turng them dizzy as\ tbe first overcane atterly veuights them. The conse er "2 18, thee men are just now as crouching as hercto fore v hey have teon domineering. Apartments, for the first thy ae Mn bon yea erally “to let.” Added to all this, Many Ui ; workmen have been gered from tho, "0% the extraordinary demand mace by the cap, "tal. Although the old ‘works’ are atill going ont, the very fear that no vow ones will commence is engugh to ex, t@ @ disturbance in such men’s minds. ‘The political s, At Of aMlsire Rome ig qniet; but in the preset state of 6 Worl there must be alwaya some Thing going on of terest there. A little excitement is &t this moment occa Hued with regard two portraiture, Father Passaylio, who yy2% know attacked the Papal tem: 7 whee’ bean imhOrtalized in the Vaciewn in Te es tand tat bs pra sa. | ~~, NEW YORK HERALD, MONDAY, DECEMBER 30, 186). Diotted ont. A wink was given to a stone mason to chip-the head out, and he did it, But tho artist is indig- Mant, and brings an action, claiming a‘ crowns for the Darbirous mutiation of hig work, The man’s defeace 4s that he soted according to ordera; but no written orders can be produced, The second business is more important. ‘The Queen of Naples delights in having her portrait pho- tographed. Her Majesty's tinage has reproduced in a hondred different positions. A pl raphigt at last devermined on a novelty. He reproduced her Majesty's head stuck on to the body of a unde figure. Every one #2 posed, from such outlines as the Queen bad coule.vend- i) tp give the public from time to time, that the photo- graphér iiist hywe Lad access to the ineriora notre of the heroine princess. Everybody thorefore purchased the piquant Poruraitue, All parties combined for once in mag of acknowledgment, Whi, lo! a hue and cry i ‘up for the photographer, and the unlucky wight is duly lodged, for his audacity, in the castle of Sau Angelo. BANQUET TO COM. WILLIAMS, OF THE TRENT. Very Graphic Account of the Seizure of Mason and Slidell by Mail Ofccr Wil- Ham, (From the London Post, Dec. 14.) An interesting meeting was holden on Thursday even- dng at the Royal Western Yacht Club of England, at Mill- ‘bay, Plymouth. Commander Williams, R. N., who waa tho mail agent on board the royal mail steamer Trent when she way stopped by the federal war sleamer San Jacinto, and Moers, Slidell and Magon, the Confederate Commissioners, taken from her, ie a member of the Royal Western Yacht Club, When it became known bow ably he bad acted on that tryi ion gone of his brother meinbers thought it would be wel) toentertain the gallant © fic@r at dinner at the club, on his return to his home at Stoke, Devonport, No sooner was the suggestion made Ahan it was adopted, and very soon quite as many names were ontered for the dinner ak the club diving room could . Commander Williams having accepted oa the dinner was fixed for Thureday. It took place in the club dining room, and was attended by about fifty gentlemen, Rad CiareMss—The next seat we I _ = pleasure of proposing to you ts, our gal and worthy guert cerpearlan’ Williams’’—(great cheer- ing)—whe haa ki accepted the invitation of the members and subscribers of the Royal Western Yacht Club, who were desirous of inviting him to dinner as a mark of their admiration of his conduct on the occasion of the late insult offered to the British flag on board of the royal mail steamship Trent. Applause.) ‘Tho toast was drunk in the most flattoring manner, the company giving chearatter cheer. Commander Wiuiama who upon rising was received with eutburiastic applause, which was again and again renewed, said:—Mr. Chairman, Mr, Vice Chairmen, gon- tlemen, and brother members of this the Royal Weatern Yacht Chub, it is not with the feelings of arrogance and presimption which Mr. Fairfax has thought prope to impute to me that I will wow endeavor, ax weil as severe illn/ es wili permit me, to convey to your minds the deeply seated gratiinde that J fee), not only to the chairman for the complimentary language and too partial language used by Lin, whom I have ever found for the Jast four or five yours my kind and considerate friend, but also from the manner in which the mention of my name hus been received by you—you, many of whom are old aud tried friends of mine, and many whose faces I have nover met before. ‘Therefore J take it to be not so mnch & personal matter, but a national matter—(hear, hear) — that you have taken this op portunity of throwing around my uboulders the mantle of your approbation, (Renewed applauge.) Gentlemen, if I fail to convey to you-if I fail to convey to you from ‘the poverty of my language the throbbings that swell up from the well of my heart, I beg you to believe that fam sincere in all that IT shall say. (Bravo, and hear, hear.) ‘his compliment was never look- ed for by me. ("We believe it, Williams.””) { willepdeavor to be as little egotistical as possible, but. in the ‘present instance it may be necessary that I should speak, in some measure ot mself, in consequence of what has been said about mein the New York papers, aid which has been referred to by Punch, The New York papers have thought proper to allude to me in unwarranted language, and which I fear bas been countenanced by Mr. Fairfax. Before I say one word about Mr, Fairfax, or the pro. ceedings which tovk place on board the Trent,and which, perhaps, you would like to-hear from my own lips— cwe should,” aud applause)—and the manner in which the rent was boarded, 3 crave your indulgence to allow me to refer to notes, [ am not a practised speaker. 1 havo never had to speak on any occasion like the present, and, therefore, I must crave your indulgence to allow me to refer to noter which I have this day made, from ex- tracts taken from diferent papers, in order that T might ‘not omit any portion of such evidence as I should wish to Jay before you. 1 throw myself on your indulgence, (Hear, hear, and cheers.) 1 belive, at ail events, that J have o: my side truth and power. To convince you of that I cannot give you the chapter aud verse of these extracts ‘that am going to read to you, because I have neither jad time, nor buve {had the heaith to put myself to the task of takingany notes of the particulars of the dates in such papers. (Hear, hear.) But I read fu the press the opinions of the Americans—1 mean the Northern portion of the Union, the federal States. in alluding to the attack on the Trent it says:—If the act itself je jus- tiflable the, mauner in which it was performed is un ceptionable.”? (Oh! and derisive laughter.) As to manner in which it was performed. I was, at the tme Captain Moir came to me to say that a suspicious vessel was abcad, on the main deck, with a pipe in my mouth ‘reading the *‘issays and Revlows.” I did not then think for one moment that such an atrocious thing would have been done ag that which was enacted hy the culiant officers of the San Jacinto to takes prison. ers of war, contrary aud in violation of international law, the s0-styled Commissioners from the Confederate 8 ‘The arguinent that appeared oF presented itself to my mind—the argument of the moment—as a flush of Hightning, wae that if avlave,a fogitive siave, once suc- cweds in putting Lig foot ina free State—putting aside Great Britain—that that slave from that moment was free from his bondage. (knthuslastic cheering.) The sonnner in which it is performed is ‘unexcepti tiabic.”” Shortly after tho San Jacinto was seen, a very few mi nutes after the vessel was descried, we hoisted our en sigh. Tk wasnot responded to. As wo approached the San Jacinto a shot was fired actress our bows, Lappeal to you now—to you oflivers af the army aid navy— js it usual for @ neutral power, whea withing to speak with another vessel, to dre a shot across hor bows to order her to heave to? (No, no, certaiuly net.) We proceeded slowly. We put her helm a starboard and approched her. We were not half a cable's length from her; I would say she stopped—except that she had etecrage way—when a shell was fired accces her bows—(s! N that isthe way which it has beon thought proper to style ag unexcepiion ible. (Iron ical Wughter.) Tmake (ioma present of that. (Hear, hear, and langhter.) Captain Wilkes gaya:—“Ia the pro cess Of arrest he wag glad to say everything was conduct. ed properiy, and nothing occurred which did not do honor io the American navy.” (Oh! oh!) I will not dilate up- on that. Mf they thiik that honor, let them hag it to their souls; bat God forbid that her Britannic Majest navy should hing as honor such an act to th (Bravo, and repeated applause.) Now, gentlemen. 1 ap. Proach a sabject with great difildence, for it porsonaily affects iny honor, it personally affects my charactor. (Hear, hear.) Before i say one word regarding the notes which'I have before we, 1 will tell you the manner in Mr. Fairfaxand J parted. ¢(Hear.) Mr. Poirfax to me on the main tleck, hat in hand, ve a painful duty to perform, an? ic ji | of the moment T have said aught that hy can’t say «his is word by wordt what be surhetaige—(bear, and het © all we ws saia aaghe that vy siituty can he sonal ol 6 an 1 nirfax,? he ad a any gesture 1 bv ewig 6) a8 a sthere is my hand, sir, and Terao sou forgive- > (Applause.) J ask you now, gentlemen, Mi Fairfax—! do not say that ho has he fas countonanced it ia ‘he Amer’ papers countenuneed the expres ira, * Gasconmaier.” cries, Liny °Y dared. ’ and hamo, shame.) He, Mr. Fairlox, says “that my manner was 0 violent he was compelled to request tol remove me from the deck’—(oh! oh!) “hat there was no union existing ‘between tain Moir and myseif.”” that there ever occurred one single insiatice of a want of ity between Captain Moir and mysclf—(bravo, and That's a refutation.””)—and Tam proud to have this op portunity of saying that Tcan boar testimony to the high tor of Captain Moir—(cheers)—the most gallant jor, the Most urbane gentleman, with all the courte. nics of life to endear him to those with whom he is asso. ciatel, it has ever been my lotto mectin this world, (Repeated cheers.) Lconfes# that Thave boen advised to speak at no length on accountot my health, But J can- b he has (Lowi Cap- Gentlemen, I utterly deny not heip it, let the consequenc 2 what they may. (Hear, hear.) T must explain to you what bas never yet {in the pubic papors. (Hear, hear.) It is said by the American pay rs—but feannot pat my hand on it now, though [ have eat it over and over again—it is said, Th received in tenetions from his government at Washington, for that be was Cn bis return from the Western Coust of wending bis. way through the Th to New York.” What do you think/ know whether it has come before your notic what do you believer How will you put trust jn the verseity of such men who will write sich things, on the 16th of October 1 saw the San Jacinto off St. ‘Thomas? {cannot remember now wheter it was an the night of the 16th or on the merning of the 17th, 1 went on my way tO Mexico, going to Havana, Vora Cruz, Tampico, On my return to Havana, on the Gth of vember, I found that the San Jacinto had been to Havana . Thomas; that she had coaied there, and that two er oficers, passin 8 Of as Souttiecners in their hearts, bad Janched with Mr. siideli and family, and extracted trom them their intended movements, —(Sensa- tion; “Hear, hear;” aud “That never came out. before,” “Brayo.”") ‘Tagain say that Iam going to appr subject with great diffdence. Tam going to xpeak of Mrs, Land her daugtiters. (Hear, hear, and “Cheers or them.” Ttell you, sir, that Miss siidell branded one of the officers to his face with his infamy, having beon her her'a guest,not ten days beforo, (Disgraceful,” and Bravo tor Miss Siidell.””) No words of mine shall pase iy lips on & political point, T have no political feelings. Ido as Lam ordered. Mr. Fairfax demied that the marines made a rush towards Mist Slidell at tho charge, with txed bayonets. believe when | lay my haad on my heart (suiting the action to the word) and say, as I ope for mereyin the day of judgment, it is toe that thoy did so, (Hear, hear.) Miss Slidelli—snd no girl in this world ‘bas been pained more at the mention of her name in the public papers than she has been by the manner in which some per: sons have alluded te it not pained by their having stated the manner in which she acted—(cheers) but wome of the public papers described bor as baying slapped Mr. Fairfax’s fuee. (Cries of “Sorve him right if she did,” and “Brayo.") She dil strike Mr. Fuirfaz. (‘Loud cheers for her then.”) She did strike Mr. Ficie- Gx—(cheors)—dut she did not do it with the vuigarit of gesture which has doen attributed to her, Miss Stivell was with her father in the cabin, with her arnt eucircling bis neck, aud she wished to be taken to prison with her father. ‘(Hear, hear.) Mr. Fairfax attempted to get Into the eabin—I do not ey forcibly, for I do not aay a word against Mr. Fairfax, 90 far aa his manner is concernod pe attempted to get her away by inducemente, Inher ne three times. T wish struck me in the (Ob! and agemy, then, she did strike him in the that aise Bidell’s little kuuckles face, Tsuould hike to have the mark for ever, laughter.) | It hug been argued in the public papers that if Captain Moir and I—I am not finding fault with the Papers, 1 am finding fault with the lettera which have ‘Appeared iv the Jocal papers; I am. not finding fault with the feelings of tho oount ay) for the general voles f the pt thrown over fie Whal you havo dono tals night, as I said before, the mantle of your ap- pes, which is dear to me. (Applause.) It bas n argued whether we ehou'd not have done our duty mofo clearly if we had refused @ passage to theso so-alyied commiesionsre from the Southern States, Now on this point J havea very strong opinion. Lknow that thore aro gt this table membors of the legal profesefon, buf Tam not going to offer any opiaion of my own. Lam going vo offer to your notice a fact of which I am porfectly cog izant, and which occurred in the year 1834—oithor at the latter end of the year 1833 or the be- Binning of tho year 1834, At that time Donna Maris was on the throne of Portugal, In 1833 Dom Mizuel wae expelled frem that country, and yet a noted agent of I Miguel applied to the Peninsular and Oriental Cor for a passage to Lisbon in the Tagns steamer. me pas. Bage was refused, That agont prosecuted "9 company 1 do nob mean to say that this \s dechediy @ point in eupport, but a forttiors it strength’sng my argument, ‘He prosecuted the company for ‘aaving reiused him a paseago, and after @ Yong bearing the political agent wos cast, but the only plea on which he was cast wae the Pan of the c@mpany that if they had not re- fused him they ‘would have been refused admittance to the Tagus, And, consequently, have been subjeciod to a prosecution, collectively and individuaily, by passen- gers who had paid their money to be taken to Likbon. A Sortiori 1 say that it isa case in point. (Hear, hear.) It shows that Captain Moir hat no right or power whatever to refuse those so-styled Confederate Commissioners pas- sage to England. (Cheers,) Moreover, so far from apy disunion between Captain Moir and myself, 1 should haye had nothing to do ollicially with eithor accopting or re- fusing them as passengers. (Hear, hear.) But (should have o'fered iny advice most strenuously to Captain Moir that he would have been subjected to a prosecution if be should reingo to take them, But I hold mysolf personally responsible for everything that was done. (Ch it what was done was wrong I am willing to bear it. rs.) Iswhat was dove waa right, he and] acted el “That (ak suplaaes.) The Hampshire Advertiser says, stepped out of my proper position, aud presumed to make myseif a dij ic churacter’—that I was merely a doliverer of her Majesty’s ictters. (Ob.) Weil, an not ashumed to be a deii- vorer of her Majesty’s letters. (Much applauge,and cries of “Well done.) 1 bave not shirked my duty to my country. I have’ served twenty-cight years under the pennant in my own service, aud I at too old to undergo the exponso of commanding @ ship, even if I had the in- torest to get the appointinent to one. Taceepted my pre- fent appointment in order to educate my orphan boy— (bis nephew, ‘The young gentiomen was sitting by his Side, and the remarks o¢casioned @ continved outburst of applause of an enthusiastic character.) 1 thank you for allowing him to be present and sit by my wide. Although some may blame me for it, 1 tudor you iy most himble thanks.” (Cheers.) Well, | must speak o! Mrs, Slidell. You may bo aware that these ladies were under my charge for three weeks—throe weeks of close intercourse on board ship with ladies under your chargo gives you a greater insight into thoir character and thoir footings than casual intimacy onshore. (Hoar, hoa.) Whatever other people may say of Mrs. S.de!’and her daughters, 1 assure you that so lar as my humble judgment goes they were thoroushiy well bred Indies. “(Applause.) Now, what will you think of this? ‘When [landed Twas sent up to London in a special train, I had previously recommended Mra, Slidell and her da: ghiers toa hotel in London, believing it to be a quiet hotel, and where they micht get apartinents en suite. (Hear.) Well, Twas sent in a special train to report the cirevmstances to the government. On the day after T had arrived in London l dinad with Mrs. Stidell. for on the day on which 1 did arrive in London Iwas engaged at the foreign office with Lord Palmerston and the Lorde of the Adnuiraity until a tate hour. Tay then (lat ou the day alter I dined with Mrs, Slidell. Tam son in telling you what took place, You will hardiy be that agoutiemen of the Northern States, ayo, a'so-called gentlemen, had cafed upon Mrs, Slidell that afternoon, and, as if their feelings were not harrowed enough by being separated from thoir father nad protector, some demon must come to make the rankling in’ their hearta mare bitter by telling them the decision the law oificers of the crown. Te said he cite to otter his condolence (!) and to inform them that tho law officers of the crown had decided ‘that the sofware of her husband was not contrary to inte! liw.’? (Cries of disgraceful and shameful.) G: Iwas enixbied to tell Mra. Slidellewand perhaps y puden mek I repeat the exnression here—(yes)— that it was a—— infernal lie!—(Oh,” and @ Laugh) — SorI had jurtcome from the forcign office, whePs t had Yeast the derision of the Law oficers of the erovn—(beur)— and which was diametri ite to what the man dared to say. (Uboers.) Now, gentiomen, I have ouiy cone moro subject that (know of or whi circumstances attending the gallant rushing with the points of their bayonete at Mise Slidell, ‘Hear, hear.) Jt was at this point that sho screamed, fur her father snatched himeelf auoay fans her do net mean shatched himself rude'y; bub he snatend himceif away from her to break the window of his cabin, through which he thrust huis tody out, But the hole was so small Uiat Thardly thought it would admit the circumference of his waist. It was then the lady screamed. Lam charged by Mr Fairfax, that my manner waa 89 Viclont that he was compelled to request Captain Moir to remove me.” (Non sonee.) But when the marinas ry. nod oa at Ue polit of their bayonets—and I believe that iL is uot nocessary chat Tshould make a solemn asseveration that it is true— 10, no)—when they rushed on at the point of the baymet, E Yusid Jusl time to put my body betwen their vayonets ani Miss SU ‘deti—(oh !)—and I said to them, and if Henry of Exeter wore here I would ask him for his absolution for jt— (hutghtor)—T said to them, ‘Back, you cowardly poltroons.”” Bravo,” and “Capital.”) Teed not ask you, geatlemen, if Lam acquitted of bu 1 batted (Hear; hear.) [heed not sek you whether you ae’ now. Tbeg once more to express my thanks to you for the mantle of your approbativa winch you havo thrown over my shoulders. Captain Williams thon his dst repeated applause, bat imme a nand said :—Allow mo one moment. It is safticie st for me that T have received such approbation, but w may be eauimtuctory to you to know that [have re- ce.ved the approbation of my. goverament, (Fear, hear, and cheers.) » to speak, deral marines THE AMERICAN QUESTION, Thurlow Weed’s Defence of the Sceretary of State. 10 THE EDITOR OF THE Z.ONDON Tr ‘The intimation in yesterday's Temes of ‘a yearning in this country afier”’ “American views upon the new com plication of our relations with England, followed this morning by relaxing and oven kindlier strictures, tompts ine to submit briefly some thoughts which an occurrence foundiy embarrassing suggests; not, Lowever, npon international law,” for, as au humble joornalist, I have bean accustomed only to the common Sense interpreta tions of public questions; and, were Lat all qualiliod to cuter into the legal arguineat Ishouid he inclined to accept your owa view of the questivu—viz: that time and circumstances have go far cha the practice ised and reformed the principles of international mari law as and authorities cages; and, further, while the concession, in proving © ador may impeach my patriotiem, Tam constrains a iat in the ventilation of tits Laurens >cizure,as ‘by Mr. Goorge Sumner, the bottom hos fullon out of yoy She ngewe precedent, Fichusaing, therefore, the legal consi’ Arent an to the earlier inapplicable Tener largely time re to © rations of the Sau Jaciuto question, | confess toa very strong “ycarning” that the English government, its pr its people, may be distbused of an impression whiel #0 goneraily obtained, that our goverament socks sions for digagreoment, or cherishes other than such teel- ings as belong to the relations of interest and amity that blend and bind us together. Lai even less surprised at the belligerent sensibility which the Trent atfir has awakened here, with the pervading. ant dent impression’ that our government — enter purposes towards ngtand, — and tary of State has actually desiguod the dis tions which Thid supposed, wud etih ainost universally regard to the welture 0 our country 2 bapy a ‘An alloged converration of Secrelary Seward with the of Neweastle, refepred to in the Fim fa these assurances, Without precise in tothe Innguage used hy Mr. Seward, cannot be taken in assuming that its spirit was misappre D ‘The conversation o ai 1 believe, ata din Grvernor Moxoun t the Prince of Wales. Tho of a prominent Senator, who had re 0a he might be called wo amore responsible pe government, of a doliberate intention your (the Duke's) government,” evuld been ty while T can excure Enghzh ‘nobleman for misinte idle or ‘loose talk? in av American stat man, to all Americans tho badiaage of Mr. Soward wou hav uuderstoo?, Perhaps it woul! h been w: 10 attempt to" play with adced Wot. deed, from the mischief au aitempted pleusimery | casolhe from the xray ities 0} 18 corta vetted. After diseloiming, ng for M ed, sutclondly fi 4s towards Engiaud, I beg to refer such itlemen “28 have acquaintaues with, 0 ‘ousuiting, dir, Adama, unr re ex of American § ug tapit a Pregident of the Unitoc beoudest gense of the term, the nd, resigning his ‘seat i responsibilities, be is $ and feelings of our publi Until Lsaw the acersation ae his govern. | tary Seward standing out prominentiy in the London jress the idea had uot entered my mind, nor , oy reit that it has ation ( pon. after the settlement of the Maine and Vancouver boundary ques tions, in their final action upon both of which the course of the English government was characterize’ by ened justice and wistom, I had supposed that nv misunderstanding romaitied, and that we migot look for ward to a long period of exemption from eonilict or ais Fensicn. Sudsequently incidental occasions for intor. changes of national courtesies oecurred calculated art ‘tending to confirm and strengthen feelings of good will: ‘These were succeeded by that memorable visit of the and wilternems, nothing occurred {0 Jar its ¢njoyment. ‘The American’ people, ‘enthusiastic, were co fiderale and reapectful, Prince, either from iptu- tive or inherited good sense and taste, while.op all the proprieties of his Was £0 Dv cious ag to win nothing but “ op! Joave everywhere agreeable aud end and even now, #0 universal is the b for the Queen, that were her Majer Earl Russell abd Secretary Sewn "10 dal Of these em{uent statesmen’ | af, wore “ ational wrong, would find to perpetrate a great than ambition or gtrate _ the bonds of affection stronger wee te fon" anfh our government shall doom necessary to sr -¢® this abrupt emergency It is scarcely pense, Nor’ alate, We shall not remain long Containers _ ald I add to the calm, well considered views whow —-Mthe letter of Licutenant General Scott, in ar. Ameriox hax no more devoted patriot nor England *" wo jeincere friend, That distinguished and veteran general lod our ariay creditably through one war with Higland. Tin humble positions, shared. in that. ecudict; and I speak for both—enjoying the confidence and friendship of our great chicftain—in scying that neither cares to survive nother struggle so revolting to att who rejoice in a common ancestry and commingled Llood, with kindred memorials and associations, Of tho exactnature of the despatch from the English government Iam ignorant; but, fam constrained to ex- Press the opivion, that if that’ despatch has taken the form of a povempiory demand it will be met by aa per- omptory @ refusal: for in temper and pride we Are as un- veawoning as the bed exwmples of our mother country, absurdly iuteasitied, can make us. But I devoutly hope that the inagt(f mode of diplomacy will not, on either side, be resorted to. ‘There are no real interesis of either country to be promoted or protected by a coutest "for the ‘championship. Nor {8 it neceasary to deter mine questions of relative prowess or courage. The bat- tle of Lundy’s Lane, in Canada, fought upon a fair feld, with forces nearly equal, which consigned tho remains of seven bundred Isritish and seven handred American #ol- diers to‘‘dea:l men’s beds,” should be accepted ax asatis- factory solution by both natiors. “The Slidell and Mason imbroplio, which has been upon us, places both goo- criments in falee portion.” Buguand. is running ‘upob all- fours acroes the track of ber life long practices ant pre- cepts, while dmerica is forced, in maintaining the act of Commodore Wilkes, to ignore 'a policy earnestly insisted Upon——a policy which, At the conclusion of the war of 1812, was Toft to be datermined by the future good senge aud forbearance of both governments, In this “muddle,” stiould either nation be too tenactous? 1 donot say or think that iu thiy matter we have cone quite right, or that we aro wholly wrong. ‘The temptations in this ense were far greater Uhan ean be underetood abroad. Messrs. Stidet! and Mason were rexponsible leaders in the unnatural and causeless rebe!lion which set brother against brother in ferce and brutish civil war. As Senators in the Congress of tho Unitot states, whi'e unanimous taiitions sapposed mon incapable of such perfldy, they committed acts of treason far more Sagrant than'tho offences which have consigned the heads of British noblemen, through the ‘Yower, to the block. It will require, therefore, calin de- liberation and a large measure of forbearance in our government and people to bring thom to an acralescence in the views taken of this question boro—views which, T am compelled to admit, lave obtained acroks ihe Chan- nel, Lut if events are not precipitated; if time is given for reflection, #0 that the cost and consequences of war may be enleubited, my apprehensions would be greatly re- Veved. { quite concur with the New York Tribune in tho opinion that these rebel emiasaries are not worth a war, and, individually, would not hesitare to. make large concessions, in feoling, for peace. With England, whos canvas whitens every ocean and sc: patching the dawning rays of the rising and mellowed by the depart ing boams of the setting sun,” the honor of ber tlay is everything. In defence of this tlag England, with her blood heated, will not sacrifice the oirdupois of @ ly, then, If appealed to in a neighborly spirit, we can afford to do for England what we should, touched in the same tender point, expect England to do for America, Respectfully, your obedient servant, Loox, Dec. 12, 1891. THURLOW WEED. ‘The Reply of the Times. (From thetantin Times, De It ia very seldom in tho present polite a: that we are ablo to accumulate so much evi lence of a liberate and lung cherished intention to do us an iajury es ws are able lo bring against Mr. Seward, the presen! Prime Minister of the Northean States of America, During the visit of the Prince of Wales to the United States, Mr. | Seward took dvaniage of an entertainment which was given to the Prince and his auite to tell the Dukeot N Castle that he was lilely Lo occupy high office, rat when he did 99 it would become his duty to ineult England, and that hee showld énsutt her accordingly. Avew months after this saily Mr. Seward found binself in the position he had antici pated, a quarrel hetwoen North and South was tmminont, and the advice which Mr. Seward tendered to the hosti’é parties was fo ubarvlon their disput, and combine thet Farees in a whelly unprovoked atack pam the Br itish colony of Canada. The next step of Mr. ceward was Lo publish cular, eating upon the States to fortify the sea ant iaies ‘ontien—® circular which was understocd by everybody to Great Britain, and was, indeed, capable of uo onstruction. An English packet is then bearded by au American ship of war, four paskengersare removed trom the packet by violence and placed at the disposal of ihe Amorican Secretary of State Ho orders them into siict confinement, without any diplomatic communication with the English Minister at Washinglon. aud by so doing Appears to alopt aud ratify the action of the Ame ‘This ia all we Know at present of the fee! d proceedings of Mr. Seward. But it is gh to load to « general persuasion that pon his Ability to involve ths United States in a war with Engiand, Mr. Seward has stake his official, and, most probably, also his political existence, and that whatever may be the advantage to America of a war with this country to him it has become an article of the very first noses peoulate on the mo: » hats deliby It in no business of ours 7 to chlarge upon the gui! D, perhazs, by this time cote het, this greal crime, th greatest, parh: @ huinaheroature can be guilty—the bringing own country and u,on us, who have never Wi tentionaily done him or it any evil. The fac have stated then, An Amecican gentleman, Mr, Thurlow Weed, now rasi- dent in this country, in a quasi diplomatic c thinks it necesgary, tndor those eireumstances, forward in dofence of Mr. Seward, and ce upon his Cully or in. ave as Wwe Whether Mr. Seward has found person iu Mr, Weed our readers will ba better able to jnege when they have read the lerter with which he has dus. For ourselves, we must confess we have ar Lat tho conclusion that Mr. Weod hus made the case x his client and his country considerably worse thap he found il ed bogins by an admission that the present profoundly. erab Not , we beg to say, for we never whore the line of’ duty was eleare: profoundly eimbarassing to Mr. Weed, bo- we iS very much inclised to think that we are right in our view of tho Jaw, and that “in the ventilation of the case of Mi. Laurens the bottom bas failen out of pre it.” Lropping, therefore, the scion, Mi A serks ta show that we iro et ing that the Au overn- pated ink so © wonderful Uhan our *bellige- ent sorsibiity” with regard to tie Trent. As for the conversation with the Duke of Neweastle, of which Mr. Woed says he knows nothing, he eays it must here beara joke—tiat ivind of ajreeable badinage whi h pas after dinner beliven dukes and cobnyo Se Ax to the chain of facts wh joke with what we fear will turnout to beam arnest, Mr. We » but refers: ist Amerie’ don, Mi trae rolex of American wiafortune beng that Mr faz nol the pow.r, and My i .Pechaps thiakiag tat h worse to tiys ir. Adams, ag a al! our boundary disputes nothing lott ho exevodingly agreoab'e if 3fr countrymen of this uot fidkl in Risaimission that thor jiarrel wboat, any tion of th Sowart fa fastening a qsarrel upon v : the P bat sponden 1 the law of 1 Amorica a visit, the But then, ance of @ rapture, the Queen will not pay Anvica + visit, and we theref 5 little comfort from this suggestion. After chat iadis- hae huith ponsablo ay erty avai rolativea, w costry which a dealing with our trai et tothe real point. Mr. ‘S$ uS Lo de in the right, who has tanta ont Ns with all this show of sand who cutirely to his ext the bes! feol | towarda t and thy pooph ua is ou the right he simits and tho ageorts, we demand that the persons w , beou taken by violence from our. p: be shail inoet with a refusal, may be facerate once 1 continue to do so, Is us that America 13 08 bad example of her mother country cam y Hint ify instead of res quicing as. a inary to any further diseassion the restorntion of the captives, we Are. content to give the Ameriean po or duliberation; i we are w @ discussion bega seizing the thing and to re nise a debate comi id under as haying nothing in i usnial; if, in fact, to ue th ica, we will enter into 8” there is 7 protracted nego- won to hope that America ma rolént, and coudeseond to the opinion that. aft: siidell and Mason are not worth a war. We feor Mr, Weed in tiie is over sanguine, and that, ng Us America is allowed to retaia what sho has ken from us at the cheap price of an. i respondence, sie will too keenly appreciate her own gain aud our degradation to pnt_an end to €0 agroeable an in terlude, wut her forbearance will never be tried, We can, we thin to Mr. Thurlow Weed the sentim ngiisbnan on this painful subject, ask (rom Amoiica courtesy or affection, re Queen or regard for oar Prince. There thiags are bers to Prince of Wales, whose advent autdng us forded to tbe American poople an opportunity to mark, im hearifelt ovations, both their regard for the future monarch of Great Britain ana their high estimace of, and thair per- sonal ainiration tor, a Queen whose evoutful acd illustr- ous reign, in advancing civilization, in promoting pub! and private virtue, and in hallowing bovrebold shrines, will enrich the archives and brighten the pagos of Eng: land’s bistory. {1 often thought, while witnessing, as 1 did, in several of our citics, the spontaneous demonstra tions of camistakex)'o regard from hundreds of thousands of hearts warmed by remembrances of Saxon descent, that jf all England could be ‘there to see,” we should thegeatorth, ae nationn, dwell together in peao» and friencgbip. %o riumphal journey, extending many thousada miles, through ‘ihas, Lowa, villages, hamlets form give or to withhold, We do not even ask that amount of {air treatmort which wo are in the habit of recoiving from other nations. Wo have loug ago made up our minde (o dispense with that; but we do demand hat she shall abstain from actual outrizge, or thal, if it is committed, she chal make reasonable reparation. I she will do this, is well; if not, the ‘llerwation will not come tm the desired protracted negotiation.”? A Battalion of British Guards for Canada ov Charleston. From the London Post, Dec. 13.) The route havyng arrived at the Sheet street Barracks, Windsor, early yesterday morning, for tho iminediats departure for of two hundred rank and file of the irab battalion of 800i» Fusileer Guard, which have beeii dobest garrison duty at Windsor Castio since Gotobier last, the 380 were Jareadingae ag early ae {9 incu, woen murcava trough tue town ip high ‘apirite Wo the Great Western station en route for ton, headed by the fine band “Pm of to carly in the morning,” and 4 Pay ng area Gy the tshabie ion of Scots juards, in their ful! complement of 1,000 men, who are to sail imme- diately for Canada. GEORGE FRANCIS TRAIN OW THE WAR. His Remarks at a Lecture om the Trent Affai—An Indignaunt Englishman Re= lice and Intense Excitement Ensues, a Tuesday evening, December 10, sir. G. F. Train foc- tured in the Town Hall, Tunstall, England, on behalf of tho Tunstall Atheneum and Reading Room. The subject of the lecture, as announced in the bills, was ‘ho Amorican Question, with variations,” ‘The hall was well filled, nearly overy one preseat being males, Tho Chiet Builit’ of Tunstall (Thomas Peake, Exq.), presided, and, tn opening the proceedings, ho CuanccaN sad their’ object in meeting together, was, first to promote the advantages of the Tuustall Atheneum and Reading Room; and, tooond'y, to hear a x gontieman who had addressed many assemblies in differ- ent parts of (he country with complete success tering to th minis atificaton, aut in no case intrezehing up- ou th) rules which guided thos» who delivered orations o- uddreskes, or loctures, or whatever they might be called.r It had been reported td hitn thata few individuals hed been Drouzht there that evening for tho purpore of interrupt- tion. He did not believe it; he wold not bellove it; he ‘was not capable of believing that of the people of ‘Sunstall, ‘Me had known Tunstail a great part of the present con- tury, He kuew it before wany of those present were in existence. He could not believe that there was a single person in Tunstall who would, far a momont, desire to disturb the harmony of any asaémbly met together for the purpose oF reereation, and that ia connection with an to- stitution that tho town of ‘funstall might be proud to honor—an institution with a library of considerable extent sad some valie—an institution whose object, was the in- telloctual improvement of the inhabitants,and the time would come, he trasted, when it would have ail the ac- compainments of a Mechanica’ Inaiitute, (Hear, hear.) He had the greatest pleasure in introducing the gontieman who was to address thet, and he thovght it right to say that, o# chairmon, he was determined to limit the atten- tion of tho meeting to the purpose for which it had boen called, He did not, for amoment, supposo that they would disturb the lecturer, or any other gentleman who might adress them, but, masmuch ag an intimation of rome such ‘once being possible had “boen conveyed to him, he thongist it his duty to put on a grave face and take up a firm position, Tt aight be that their views inight Hot correspond with thoso of Mr. Train, but they must vecoliect that theob/ect of the meeting was to bene- ic institution, for which Mr. ‘Train liad come 150 » serve them. '(Applaise.) Ho was quite sure no pan would, under sueh elreumstances, show any inunifestation of feeling, and, with every coniidence in them, he introduced Mr. Troin to deliver an address on “The American Question, with variations.” (Applause). Mr. Trai was cordiaily received by the major portion of the autienco, but, before he could begin (0 epe-tk, he was grovtod with th? expression, proceeding from ths body of the ball, “We hope you will'speak the truth.” ‘The Caaimway aid he would not allow any interrup- tions. ‘The person who had proviously spoken, however, in- 5 iret, would Mr. Train enforse the sta‘ements contrined in his totter to the New Yor« Hanatp’ (Confusion.) CHaeaN—T must have silences, or I wil! leave the chair, (Applause and confusion.) he digputant persisted, and this time said, Mr. ‘Train had called the yolonioor® a ket of fools, and as @ vo!untoor he cond not submit to them, (Renewed contusion.) The CuayrMax bad uot heard that Mr. Train had made such @ statement, He continued:—I will have order any way. Silence having been restored, Mr. Tuary said ay the voluateors had been mentioned, he would recite a poem in praiso of them by Eliza Cook, one of their own »vetesses— A Voice-—Pe ips you don't Uelieve it when you say it. ‘Whore who wiah to hear th addrers as announced in the villa, will hold up thelr hands, Noarly every person present hela vy his hand. ‘The Cnarawax—The majority is nearly a hundred to one, (Applanse.) Mr. ‘Yraw then said ho had boen invited to addres them in aid of their institution, aud he was very glad to be of service to them, Ho had no objection to those lit] interruptions, because they gave a variety to the proceedings. He was nota brave mau, aud he believed if he were ehot in battle it would be in the back, (Laughtor.) He then. recited the poem to which he had previous y_ re 4, in pra'go of the voluniesrs, and said he choorfully endorsed every sentiment it coniainet. fe hat come there, he continued, not to speak ef war, but to epeak ou avy subject (ey Wished. Would they se‘ect a subject, for it was his desire to do his beet to please them, le did not want war; he was not an enemy in theic eanip that night; he carried a flag of truce; he wanted England and America to be friends, notenemies; he did not e countries ta goto war. (Applause.) Tt was not stof either country to go to war with cach commercial interest in each other was too slow them to go to war. Two countries that md together by £100,000,000 sterling a year should be made to keep’ the posce. (Applause.) Allu- Bion had beon made to atetter he had written. “He ha written a iter, but there was nothing init that was hostile to ‘ugland, (Diseypretation.) He hit been long i tds country, and he had becn accustomed to speak ind, Dil he toil thom hy liked England vetter than his own country ho showld be raileta hypocrite. Eo loved his country and his flag better than he loved their eomatyy and their ting. ‘Though oovans yell between us, Poough our lands are far apart, ‘The 8 bore ns, i s still at haart. (Appiavee,) done wroa) for it. If she had done ony thing 1 law sho weild be the first tosayso, Why did they settie the question before they had herd from the side of th He would nov speak of this, He woud cathor not speck of PD war, and speak of China, or ey liked to at pinions, They had of Paria ‘nt to excress on, it was for thom w gay om the other side of the da right tra in, oF on any these b exp: tr mania did not like to have thems let them sa anil a He had no hostility to B wir years ago, when Dr. Mackay visited At e (Nr. "frain) intro lueed him to seve: a banquet at W tod that be eli men of 1 tO We the country, got up me him, and sug- ational poom that and America) to- iw ealicd ‘John’ and ‘That poem was re. n fear years ago, and : r for both counirics, » spoke aa a Northerner, and he endorsed tpoem. Would they allow him , to show the feotiug of America towards vita was their natural enemy, France was ‘tho Americans know that thi ian,” which Mr. Train reeito the b: et at W: ener th (Applause. ) ailth a > TOO WAS bot gol Up age ral friend, France, but ogainst th my, America. (Crivs of ‘No, no.”) Well, suppove, this to be the case, he was going on to say—(a voice, “You are not our friends,” cheers, hisses and confusion )— 2 Was thelr friend, America was theif e:fomy, And Ammcrica was continually ine Iting them, Did they ) not in W47 p ctheir com on beard Wit-asa present to the Irish in the (heir (amino, and did they ask or receive any ent for ite ‘Phat was iso No.1. On another ac caziua,whon the Atlantic telegraph was lil, aud tho noblo Queea of Eugland wrote a etter tothe Président of the Amorican ropubiic, tho British cfficers connected with the telegraph passed over the'r land, and were ro- cived with the courtesy whieh British’ officers had, ved from the Atm ‘That was inewt They found a shiy up in the Northern 3 it was one of the untortint. iklin expedition; seut it over to n. Tasult No. 3. mfusion.) AS Mr. Train was ing left, which elicited from Kk he hoped they should got on better had left. Mr. ‘Train was then id at Hanioy, and in usion cansod by the remark a per. lly domanded of the speaker,“ IFAy owt you d-alwith him in yoatr own town, instead of cominy herve lo ups? the meeting? If he said that at Hanley, let tien deal with him there.” (Xpplanse and renewed con- fusion.) ‘Tho CrunwzN—If I can have the person poiated out, I will take eare to have hin removed justuntly by Inspce- ptt. I should do it with great reluctance, do it on this priv sembly every man shou) mation of the hud tha desired 2vo led Eng! hoi to her Simericans such a welcome ag ehad never received before in a foreign coun* was ingult No.4, and in order to mke the in. cult cho greater they rose m masse, and there was a spon- taneous Oatburst of the enthusiastic feeling ef the poople, who gave the Prines of Wales 2 reception which he would i Yhuy did not think th or was it not, the boiling towards this country? newod applaus as done in or ter to show their Foapect for onr Quee., our jaws. and o0 y. Ame rica moant it, and Antorica was Engin tural friend. Did they tink France was their f © Le Monileur, La Putrir, Le Pays, and other papers wore now contianally talking about the Trent alfuir? Let thom look over tho anaais of their country and seo what Fraoce had dor America was not our enemy; could uot be. This war w Was now being’ t about could not goon The! be no war betwe these twocountries. (Cheers.) If such a war were to take place in this civili: ago, thoy had better send to the Emperor of Chiua tnd ask him tO send missionaries to civilize England and Amor 3 was rot the ago for war. Jf Amorica bad done wrong sho would apotogize, bat if she hat not, neither Kogland nor any other nation and ne of the mer vel (This uninis- n was greeted with could make her apologize. (“Qnestion,”” and expression} of disapprobation.) Did the international laws apply solely to Engiand, or to all nations alike? Could not the present ’ dispute bo referred to tho wi vitration of Russia or Prussia? Give one of these Powers one per cent on tho ostimated cost of the war aga commission to settle the dispute peaceably. Or why not lot Mr. Gladstone or the Duke of Argyll, or eome other man competent to deal with it, sol- tle the question, rather than let the two nations en; ina fratricidal war? Who were the two mon about wi they talked of going to war? Mr. Mason was the author of the Fagitive Slave law an‘ Mr. Slidell had been for a quarter of acentury making hostile spoechos against this country. Did they think tho Amoricans when they boarded the Trent, and took esd rebels prisoners, want- ed to insult the English fleg? They never thought of the English ae They had onough to do to mind their own affairs witheut interferifig with those of England. Tho Jaw officers said that Captain Wilkes bad no right to take tho men out of the Tromt, but he might have taken the sAip to New York. He thought it was bet. ger to tho rebels whep be could. If be nad taken thom contrary to intervational law he ant they would be given ap. He ea repo ra eae, Oe Ciasalan re and of the Irish yy smenants, who, ald, were forcibly Wha ou houtral tod argued that Captain only done wi id doing during ihe lasg, years, this, bow was it «merica oould not oapvure, under similar Ths create eee a na bistwee, ta tae (000 of canta os tne cee ein the hoe of | i ie proclamation of neutrality, to take Doard is ship. ‘aid (hat Captain Wilkes had no boat D ss to be pens internation rights; had the captela: 9’ the Trent any right to take the reve! commissioners on board his sbi rsome obser vatic ns on incernational Jaws, Mr, Train said if Kugland wouid admit that all she had dono precisely similar was illegal, America would admit that what she had done in the case of Messrs. Mason and Slidell was illegal. She would do anything raider than go to war. She did net mean to go to war. ‘Two-thirds of their exports went to Americ., and ho then could they rise up to fan this nation into a wary flame—how could they knock down @ man they were! making money out off How could they deal with this: case before they had heard how the Cabinet at Wasbing- ton had decided? How did they know that the pr would not be given up? But he would tell them what he have done with them (the prisoners), He would have tried them in the prize court at New York, he would have convicted them of high treason and hanged them—(hisses)—and then he would have sent them to England. (Hivses.) Fogland might have the right of asylum, Dut if it went Ww war it would be @ les asy- jum, Did he Jook like # ho=t:'e man? Did they think would inyolye the two countries in war? (A yolce=!(No fear.) What did ser want America todo? Did they want to say to her, holding a revolver to her head, “Give. up those meny’* aN ieee Ba wre.don's ‘want oar mal stopped. ” i ite right, We don't # mM; we never stopped your mails pr your fenales either. (Laughter. ) Tecate? “Amesica ‘wishing to doall she could to co- ment the good feeling between the two countries, Were. ey es eee so Jost 10 all principles of humanity that they should lie idle, and sce theic flag trailed in the dust from month to month? Would England do as muchy America never contenipiated Prt ge Sa bon So the government never authorized it. Mr. Te 4 ed to gay that the preseut Aimerican question was pot » question of avery, and charged England with inconsis- teney in, being the chief supporters of Amertean slavery, after making a it Baw'r' to abolish slavery in own colonies. was morc (han once interrupted, in reply to the observation from a person in the the hai, “Our flag must bo respected,” he reptied,“Cor« tainly, it shon!d be respocted."’ wat foxa—*You don’t do it.’ (Applause aud confu- sion. “ Tiaeausocn rose to order. Addressing the offender he said:—If_you would respect the flag you should allow hum to speak his mind. The waning only a no! . t) abuse our Engl be Mr. Trarn Cataveely excited)—I am your guest to- night. If you do not wane to Leary me I will go. I am not paid to coms here, (Yuraing to his opponent) T will tbo insnited by you or anybody else. (Cheers and re- newed confusion.) ‘the Ovvexpxw—I don't insult you, What you are taiking is mere bounce. The CHAIRMAN again rose to order. He told the offender, that he and others who bad been interrupting the coodings could not be entitled to tho respect of thei countrymen, It was @ recognized ruic in every Britigr assembly that the majority gover the wilole, He most insist upon that rule being carried out in the pré- seat ease. (Applaus Mr. Train Said ho did not wish 10 speak unless he was acceptable to thom, He had told thom he was friendly to them; why not lot him finish? H+ did not wish to annoy ther i” they did not wish to hear bim he would stop. (“Go on.) Mr. Train ugain warmly deprecated the id of @ war between England aid Amoric., and arged bis aa- dizors to do all thoy » nliay the hostile feeling ix this country against Ameri He asked them to wait patiently until the North hat mit down tie rebellion. “Ha said they might fancy that serving two nations would be better than serving one nation, but he would tell them South woult be but poor sonore. The bulk of products exported from this country were eold in the North. He argued that land would 8 for more by a war than America, which supviied this country with bread and meat, and they should retlect upon thie before they rushed into war. He sdinitted tho strength of our navy, but the time had gouie by for nay es. Agreat navy” with war about twice in a ceniary would not thing like a street railway. (Laughtsr.) Al x course, had gotnoravy, Th.y quiy cui 400 hips out of the woods the otner day, and thoy had abont 5,000 counters, brigs, packets ard other veesels pretty well equipped. He would recommend them to get out of the way of the Warrior, certainly, bt they were capable of doing a good deal of damage fer all that, Ho found by the papers that America was vo be biotted out of the i] of the world, but they forget that theve was a at New York and a Sebastopol at Washington to begin with. It was a good dea! wm.» easy to taik about blot- ting America out of the map of the world than to blot it- out. After pointing out gome of tho difliculties which he said England would find iu its way both on sea and land, if it went to war with Amevicx, aud recommending them: not to place too much confilenco in the loyalty of the Orangemen in Canada, ani of the French Canadians, Mr. Train reverted to the Trout aifair, and said he wap confident that if the question was laid courteously before the auth orities of Washington, Egiand would meet with all the courtesy and attention she could wish in return; butit she put a pistol ut the head of Secretary Seward and said, “Give np those iven,” ho was afraid it would, raise up that spirit of which he had seen some manifestar tions in that asserably. He did not think Bngland was the nation to strike America when she was in trouble—to take advantage of hor internal dissensions to gratify pap sion and revenge, Engian! was (00 great, too indepen- dent, to take advantage of the weakucss of any nation. Was it not so? (Applanse and confusion.) They would not strikeamanwhen he wus down, would He did not believe Rugland reaily hore any hostility to Ame- rica—(cries of “No,” and’ cheers)—and_ he” told them Ameri¢a bore no hostility to England. When any of our great mex went to America did thoy not receive generously—even Mr, Edwin James? (Loud laughter, No matter who it was, if hy wanted a home he would find one in America, which’ was a: im for the exile ap vellas Pnvland. The | re ly touched upon seve ral topics he had previously discussed, and resamed his seat ainid loud ayplause, Mr. J. N. Peaks proposed @ vote of thauks to Mr. Train. He hud come there out of good will to them, to benefit ono of the public institutions of the town, and the least they could do was to thank him for his kindness. If be had said some things with which they did not agreo, it must be remembered he sp ie irom the American side of the question, and they could not expect him to from the English side, There was no.necessity for inter- ion. If there had boon any feeling it should have been smethered for the sake o: giving the lecturer that courteous reception which, os a stranger, he was espe » cially entitled to. (Appinn f Saas Ho said he would Mr. EMuERTON seconded 1) > motion. dhe woul not give place to any gentiomn in that room for iv to his ntry, and he di’ not ‘wander thee Me Wee ; should pathics towards his own country. would be upnatural if he hud not, If ‘he (Mr. Emberton) were in | Amerfia at the preset time and Were called upon to address a public necting, and asked to apeak upon the subject now azi:a‘ing the two countries, ne: should consiter he had« pe fict right to speak his own views, and was entitled to the fair attention of those whom he addressed. (Appianse.) He did not endorge all that Mr. Train had said, but he could not listen to bin without very considerable pleasure ant interest. (Ap- | ot) Pine Cuatestast indulged in the bope that with the as the year would end the present itive cn and A fe in thiy country with respect to Americ, and that the Pw year woald usher in a well geonndo. , wasting and abiding Peace between the two countries. Be « ked them not to be premature in judging the ixsve of thy present misu dorstanding, and not to cndesin America om an e; statement, but wait until they know both sides of question before they decided upon it, .Rudiag to Mr. Train, whom ho called ‘this illns riogs stra: gory? t Chairman caid he did not believe what two or three pa*th gan news)apers har said about Lim. He asked the au- dience to show their thanks to Mr. Train for’ his kindness in coming thore by rising. Ths bulk of the audience iminedia‘ely aroge, and on re- suming their seate indulged in the usuabmode of expresa- ing theiy thanks by applauding. Mr. Tram, {n responding, complimented the andience- on their good behavior. au ‘he should like to meet. them again. He said the nwspapers had been talking about him for two years. Fi st they called him @ ja- natic, then abumbug, and now he saw by tho Chronicle he was a spy. All this abuee did not affect him in the Jea t. In con jon, Mr. Train proposed @ vote of thanks to the Chairman, which was carried with accla- mition, and the proceedings & inated. nave strong eyn (Applause.) It More Prisoners for Fort Lafayette. ‘The United States Marsha! of Southern Iijnois arrived here yesterday. He brought from Cairo Christopher Teadridge, of Hickman, Kentucky, and L. R. Barnett, of | Caleconia, Minois. They were immediately consigned to | Fort Lafayette for safe keeping. These gentlemen have boen actively engaged for some time past in passing botween Cairo, Minois, and Columbus, Kentucky, unti, suspicions were aroused that they were aiding tho caus, | the rebels, and it was deemed advisnble to put ther. & of harm's MISCELLANEOU:! 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