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2 NEW YORK HERALD, MONDAY, et ‘ ‘Deugias know that this is bis vulaerablefpoint—his heel ‘whic has pot becd baptized in the Styx, and, as they will al aboot at it, they will be pretty sure to bring down their predestined victim. ‘They will make a burnt offering of squatter sovereignty on the platform. Amd thea’ Thea ‘Mr. Douglas will decline to stand in the Convention, for he wi bave nothing to stand upon. He has gone too far to fall back, or be would be content to stand upon anything or netbing. Ab! be bas been brought up at last face to face with that Kansas Nebraska bill. Van & u, fo ‘644, was weak Upon one point—Texas; and his rivals for | that comination combined upon Texas, and upon Texas acgbiered bim, Se now with Douglas. His weak point is squatter sove- reigmty, and upon squatter sovereignty his rivals will po- | Heb bim off. In 1856 his Southern exposure on Kansas prestrated him jn the North, and in 1860 his Northern freat upon Kansas has given the cold shoulder from the @ontre!ing democratic South. And ag Van Buren, m 1848, \ook bis revenge upon the South for their repudiation of him in 1844, #80 Douglas will probably be driven to a similar revenge mm 1800. Hie followers have gone to Charleston te ‘‘mske or break” upon the issue of his nomina- ten. They have gone down to nominate him in- ee or ovtzide the Convention. The Pennsytvanians, after bringing their favorite, Mr. Buchanan, before the grand Saxhedrim of the party in 1844, 48, 62, took « de- cided stand in 1856, and positively and {ivtly mace it known that Pennsylvania—the only Northern hope of the party—would be abandoned upon any other man. This @ the game of Douglas now, with the great Northwest hele ep as the prize at stake. But his demands are @loedy and dubious, and his assumed status in the North has broken his back in the South. ‘The alternative before the Charleston Convention is the wetting aeide of Mr. Douglas, or the formal dissolution of ‘the democratic party; and the chivalry of the South are Yeady for either horn of the dilemma. But the Northern wing of the party, from the Albany Regency to tue Cali- fornia delegation, have their eye upon the spoils. There: fore, vpon an anti-squatter sovereignty platform a good mationa! conservative ticket will be put up at Charleston, Rtrong enough, perhaps, to deter the Douglasites from a bolt. That is our only hope. The great issue, however, te the platform. If there is to be # bolt, on elther siae, i will be upon the platiorm—Douglas or anti Douglas. ‘The enances are about even in favor of & split, an explo- gion, ® great and glorious row, and the most exciting @erub race that the conilicting interests of clashing sec- Mene, parties, cliques and politicians could devise. Such are the opinions of tae coolest headed politicians etil! remaining in Washington, touching the Charleston Gonvention, The sdministration is calm and confident, as if fully assured of the best results; but at the same time it ie believed bere that Josiah Randal), of Philadelphia, in warning the Convention that the nomination of Mr. Doug- jas would be the defeat of the democratic party, spoke the deliberate 0) mn of Mr. Buchanan in regard especially to the vote of lvania. The fate Of the democratic party, of the republican party, and of the third or constitutional Union party, and ef all sections, interests and classes of the American peo- ple, depends upon the issue at Charleston of the democratic piaiform. The democratic platform ! A Colossus of brass upon legs of pliable clay—a scarecrow for eiectioneering purposes, a thing of shreds and patches, a gull trap, an impecture emanating from @ body of spoiismen controlling ‘tbe destinies of this great confederacy! fhe idea isab- mn ite face, yet it i# true. And hence, all mea here tm Wasbington, of all parties, classes and colors, arc ewaiting the upshot of the democratic platform at Charies- ton, with that absorbing interest with which they would ‘wait the actual report of the issue of the Presidential ‘lesen itscif. As we cloee, Mr. Vandever, (rep.) of Iowa, on the ‘foor of the House, 1s enlightening the half dozen demo- qrauc appt a te vous sovereignty Patform of Mr. Douglas, and Mr. Vandever appears to ‘emtertain the dea that through the loopholes’ of the Su- preme Court, Mr. Douglas may save his bacon, OUR RICHMOND CORRESPONDENCE. Rucunonp, Va., April 27, 1860, ‘The Oharleston Conrention—Speculations as to the Result of tts Deliberations—The Know Nothings Ancious for Doug: Jas’ Nomination—Effects of the Forthcoming Election on Business, dc., bc. ‘Fhe only topic of conversation on political matters here at present is the Charleston Convention and the probable rewalt of its labors. First in the order of interest is tho platform likely to be adopted, and next to that, of courses the candidste. it matters not who the nominee may be, withont o platform recognizing the obligation of Con" gress te protect siave property in the Territories, in case of need, he would stand but little chance of carrying every Southern State. Previous to the John Brown rait there were many in Virginia who were content with the @moinrati platform, but that event suddenly changed their views, seeing that, even in the States, it needed more than ordinary vigilance to protect that species of Preperty. The atoption of any such platform as the riende of Douglas are understood to favor will result, Deyond a) question, in the disruption of the demo- @ratic party in the South. The feeling here upon the subject of equatter sovereignty is so bitter as te admonish the Virginia delegates of the terrible @axger te their future prospects of any compromise ‘with ihe advocates of that doctrine. The opinion gains ground here to-day that, in view of the tenacious pur pose of the South to obtain a full recognition of the nghts @f property in slaves in the Territories, a compromise Wik be made upon a Southern anti-Lecompwa democrat. A concession of the principle of popular sovereignty, as Tefected by the advocates of the anti-Lecompton doctrine» ‘will, i is supposed, offer a satisfactory offest for the slave ‘code feature in the platform which the South ao earnestly eomtend for. It is urged in support of this compromise thet the fina! issue of s contest upon the subject of slavery ‘m the Territories, or States in esse, must be in accordance ‘with the sentiments of the majority #0 long as the anti- Leeompton principle is recognized and adhered to. It is the balance wheel which wil! regulate the slave code prin- @*ple se that it cannot trench upon the rights of the ma- jority or force upon them what they are uawiliing to ac- In this view of the matter, it is estimated here that iter will not be available, inasmuch as he was opposed ‘the anti Lecompton doctrine, while he is understood to peculiarly obnoxious to Peunsy!vania from bis pomtion the tariff question. Dougias would not now be accepta- te the South upon any platform. No avowais in con- would now be making fF grexers Y the nom! at Charleston. By this avowal rally foreclosed ail aid or sympathy in the South, ssions of zeal for Southern interests can re- in him. yw Nothings exhibit no little anxiety as to the the present squabble in Charleston. So far they to be perfectly at seaas regards their choice for Vnion ticket to be patched up in Baltimore. They are derstood to bave adopted # contingent policy which plates the forcing of the election into the House of { H F F ‘The result Q we = aatisfied Southern ultra States would be carried for a | 2 & er. You jor dhy orem 6 a be urge: wh the energy of which that party is capabie. curjousness: of their commanding ition in will give a for the glad A eourse, involve a change of policy, and the result will bly be a The is of Mr. Balti- mere would foreclose any action on the part of the re- in general. I ophy of this result, but itis very notable. In ‘Virginia especially, ‘become indifferent to almest over, their a from their ordinary pursuits elections, at hundreds of thousands annually. A cam- it ‘as protracted as the forthcoming one will be mum her in the form indicated nearly ® million of dellars. THE CONVENTION IN DETAIL. THE DETAILED Niaalt rs cauhuad OF THE THIRD {From the Charleston Meroury, April 26.) MORNING _ SESSION. ! Waommpay, April 25,1860. | pane Np =~ Met, pursuant to adjournment, at tea ° i. ‘The galleries were densely crowded, especially the ene ‘eet apart for ladies. ‘ j bs we en ‘Dr. Bachman, of this | LA ‘The reading of the of " rs hg journal of yeoterday’s proceedings me committee beiog ready to report, he announced, as | the following resolution, sub. Bishop, of Connecticut 7 | Resolved. That no merber of this Convention be allowad | chan the same: | pO yp once on ‘question, or for a looger ‘Me. Bumor, of {Conn.—Upon that resolution I ask the ‘The Pussrpanr—The previous question has been ordered Fesolution. r oe Symur, of Ale., appealed to the yoover to modify | dele; delegation on the side opposite gallery)—The delegates upon this side of to inform the ladies that there 1s ample those who cannot get seats elsewhere. te pending B. Rhode Istand. Connecticut... \ fr | vVention Unai hie resolution, so that when it was the desire ot the Oon- | | member should speak longer than fifteen Minutes, be cou!d do so without umapimeus consent. Mr. Bisnor saic that be was wiilimg to modify the rea> lution by adding to it the words. “except with te Sent of two thirds of the Conveaion.’’ cL. Mr. Burner replied that that wowid be sat! Mr. COCHRANE inquired What Was tbe state of the ques- tion? The PRRSIDENT stated that a division of the question had been called for, and the resolution was divisibie, ag it con- wiated of two distinct member vious question | bad been called for aud ordered, and tha: the question bow was on the first member of the resolution, The se- cond member of the resolution, proposing a change in the rules of the Comvention, would require a vote of two- thirds. _ Mr. Cocumany said that the firat bra tion was icentical with the present rule: tion, to wit: he reeolu- £ tue Conven- Ro pereon shali speak upon any ques: tion more than once, till every member who desires it thall bave spoken. As to the second branch of the reso jution, limiting the time allowed for debate, as the main question bad been ordered, and the resolution, therefore, was beyond the contro] of the mover, he would suggest to the gentleman from Connecticut that, bj unanimous consent, be change the time allowed from fi minutes to twenty minutes. smendmenis? General Wa: ker, of Alabama, wished to know whether, if the previous question was sustained, it would cut off ¢ Paxsupent replied that thit woul be the effect. no. WALKER desired to move so to amend the second ¥ ch of the resolution, limiting devate, #0 as to make it ply only to questions having no reference to the platform to reported by the Committes on Resolutions. He wou'd vote for the resolution, provided that th to the pleasure of the Convention to aliow. ‘onventien should be allowed to disc reported by the committee at any length it might be he platform ‘The PRESIDENT suggested that debate was not in order, the previous question having been ordered, Mr. CLankk, of Missiasippi, inquired tion biad been moved this orn day. tion would be offered to-day. fore the Convention yeaterday previous question could not ba if the previous ques- . He understood not, and it could not have been moved yesterday evesing, be- cause the rules required the regolution to lie over one Tt was, in fact, nothing but a notice that the resolu- Tho resolution was not be- vening, aud therefore the been moved on it. The I’kxsipeNT siated that he wes informed by the Se- creta-ies that that was the state of the question. The reso- change in the rules was passed over @ previous question had not yet been tution proposing uptil to- i and offered on it. Gen. Wa.ker then moved to amend the latter branch of the regolution, so as to provide that it should not apply to spy discussion upon the platiorm to be reported to the Convention by the Committee on Resolations. Mr. Mixton, of Florida, who was very indistinctly heard, was understood to say that there were most important questions before the Convention for discussion—questions involving the very existence of our Zoverpment; and he knew not why, when they could afferd to allow an hour for debate in Congress at the public expense, they were notavle to take time to investigate the subjects before them when they were here at their own expense. He suggested that each delegation should be ailowed one hour, and should select a gentleman to represent their view Mr. Conxy, of Georgia, did not quite understand the question before the house. He desired to know if the amendment of the gentleman from Alabama had been se- conded? the house. The Presipent.—The amendment is in the posscesion of Mr. CRAIG, of Missouri—Mr. President, I rise to « privi- leged question. There are # soore or two of ladies hang- ing to the stairway at the entrance of the hall, who can- not obtaia seats in the ladies’ gallery. I propose that the ladies who cannot get seats in the gallery be invited b; the President of this Convention to take piaces in the under the ladica’ gallery. (Tremendous applause.) Mr. CocuRANE, of New York—The Convention has been informed that a number of ladies are “hanging.” 1 would inquire of my friend from Missouri, by sentence, of what A ATE in the lower of the dur. Cocunayg (who occupies a seat with of the hall Tr) Order being restored, Mr. BisnoP rose, and remindea had moved the previous q then announced that the A Chair resolution was called up this morning, tribunal are our female friends thus subjected to capital execution? (Roars of laughter. Mr. CaaiG made some response, which did not reach the re} rr. Rho Presromer—With the understood permission of the Convention, the Chair will invite the ladies who are wait- ‘ing at the entrance of the hall to take seats in the place designated. ‘The officers of the Convention then conducted a large number of ladies to seats in the aisle immediately under the ladies’ gallery. While this was going on, several |a- dies in the gallery threw their bouquets to Mr. Craig, the res rising and cheering tumultu: le Tose and an- nounced, amidst much laughter and applause, that he was authorized by the ladies to return to the gentleman from Missouri their thanks for his gallantry. that he was informed. and it appeared by the record, that the gentieman from Conneeticut did demand the previous question this morning before the amendment was hee gerted by the gentleman from Alabama, and that amend- ment could not, therefore, be recetved. The Presipgnt replied in the negative. The previous question was seconded. Gen. Wa kak inquired if he could not intervene his amend ment between the moving of the previous question and its being seconded. ‘The demand for the previous question cut off al) discussion or amend- It the previous question should not be seconded, the amendment would then be in order. ‘The Alabama delegation demanded a vote by States on the main question. ‘The queation was taken, and itjwas decided in the nega- tive—yeas 121, nays 182. ‘The fohowing is the vote:— States, Yeas. Nays. States. Louteiana. coteadtal || ReaGacl tain question. ama, then submitrea his amend- , of Georgia—When I rose just now I felt that lesome Wo- Mr. Wauxrr, of Alabi ment. Mr. ConEN, Thad risen under pleasant and who! ¢ : aa Bl alall lI BHl bance’ man had performed her legitimate duty. She and brotherly feeling. Sir, if we had assembled here under other auspices, under different circumstances, we might well ha questions whi now cut off all debate upon the important agitate the country. But, sir, coming here, a8 we do, clothed with the heavy resposi- bility that is upon us, we should have etultified ourselves had we closed our ears to argument and brotherly inter- | change of opinion. Men may differ; but, in the language of Mr. Jefferson, it would be wise for us to remember that error of opinion may always be corrected if the voice of reason be heard. It is with feelings of this kind, and with no desire to detain this Convention, either now or hereafter, that I say to this Convention that, under the existing of circumstances {n our beloved country, no state man should be blind to those circ: ces or deat to the rumblings of discontent which are heard throughout the Jength and breadth of thiscountry. I say, therefore, it ig wise and pi iant questions co: Resolutions without that we should calmly ave not come here for the tnavigense soy? for the display of mere idle vanity. for the di of @ stern and important duty. re. questions, i Tha ot the New g! | Pe Saris raarz, Git ve do ast meee that the of Alabama or any other State shall be sealed = S gentlemen stand here not to represen: their own opin and positions merely, but to represent the opiaions and Positions of their copstituents; and while it is the duty of ‘all parties to maintain, in their deli’ the equality @ the different States of the , it ts ten thou Bend times tne duty of this Camveotion of demo- Wprecttisiont the equality of the democrat of all the States. Sir, if were be truth, let that be spoken; if there be justice, let tha justice 02 done, and then the constitution will be preserved. Mr. Lowry, of Indiana—' Bre two objecta I appre: ena, to be accompliened ia the deliberations of this Con- Vention. In the firet place, what is moat desired, !s bar. meny of action upon the part of this vast Conventioa In the second piece, 1 apprehend that it is important tha Woe sha)) transact the buainess which our of 30,000,000 of people hare sent us here totransact with out unnecessary delay. Asan humble delegate from tus State of Indians—a State, sir, which knows no North, no South, no Past, no West, nothing but the Union—standing here to speak for her whole delegation, I gay tha: we 0¢ sire the application of no gag jaw in thisConvention But, Mr. President, when J say this, I do not mean to be under: stood that itis the opinion of that delegation that tac business for which wo are sept bere is to consume the time of the Convention in useless discussion. Gentlemen complain that confining the debate to fifteen minute *peeches will result in the application of the gag. Why, sir, that will afford ample time for the discussion of every question which will come béfore the Convention. The principles involved in the resolutions relating to the plat- form of the party are net mow to be considered for the first time. Tbey have been known for months an‘ for Panis Gentlemen bave been engaged in the various tate Legislatures, in the various Coaventiong, and in the balls of Congress, in the discussion of every issue that will, be before us, and the country docs not need ‘0 be informed vpon any of them. Yet gentlemen ‘alk about the application of the geg law; and we bave been told by the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Cohen) ‘bat it is pecereary that eloquence eheil ne resorted to for the purpose of pouring ot] upon the troubled waters of ‘this Convention. Lf, sir, that eloquencs couid pour the gepuine oj] of patriotiem upon such a body might result m good; but, uefortunately for the eloquence upon such occasions too fre: erates into mere invective. Sieh bes been the fact in the balls of Congress, and such will be likely 10 be the result Of this kind of debate in this body. Sir, it is an equivo- cal compliment to the people of the country, to the thirty millions of men, women and children—and J am proud to see bere #0 large & roprerentation of the ladies who are for the Union to # man (laughter)—I say it ie au equi- vocal compliment to the people, that we, who are sent here merely to represent the wishes of our consutuents, can enlighten them upon the issues that are before us by our elozuence. platform as sball meet the wishes and wants of th Pacific. and begt down all opposing forces. (Applause. Mr. ‘prewar, fob Pennsyivanie—I am, sir, Be cexcee ro —— > ‘ousiness of this Convention as any other man. an conclude our labors properly and return home than is the delegation from Pennsylvania; but! am glad the origival propositicn did not prevail. {think that the proposition now under coneideration is the best. So far as relates to the mere business affairs of this Convention, or the inci- dental questions which way arise, I can see no difficulty im the way of afull and complete expression of opinion. But, sir, the platform of principles upon which the etroggie is to be mace is}a matter of far more importance. 1 em unwilling to say that debate upon this question shall de restrained; for, sir, a8 bas boon well said, upon the determination of that question will depend our’ success at ‘the polls, and perhaps depend the fnture peace of the country. Let us, at least, give the latitude of an hour for the consideration of the great principles involved in the platform we are to lay down, and which are to govern our future action. the business questions that may arise: but we ought to consider this question of a platform deliberately and tho- roughly, andi am not willing, therefore, to restrain de- Date that question. In addition, let me suggoss that ds the power of the previous question. The of the Houee of ives spply here, and if gentlemen occupy too much time, the Convention bas the remedy by cutting off debate, and proceeding to dispose of the queation. Mr. Wurrsy, of Delaware—My object § Mr. Chairman, is not to make a speech, but to warn this Convention what will be the result if they do not limit usin time. I bave suffered for the last two years under the previous question, and I was subjected to another infliction ina committee this morning, and I tell of this Con. vention now, if we do not limit ourselves to some fifteen or thirty minutes in debate that upon every ques- tion that comes before us, the person introducing it will cali the previous question, and we will have the most horrible gag put upon us. Gentlemen are all anxious to go home. We are all anxious to speak; and if you do not limit us in time, Mr. Previous Question will come down upon us with his iron hand upon all ooca- sions. The gentleman from Virgipia says that he not only wants discussion, but general discussion; so do I. But Ido not want unlimited discussion. Al! I have to ay is to repeat my warping, that if we do not limis our- selves, the previous question will be catled upon every Proposition a8 soon af the mover has made it Mr. Bisnor, of Connecticut—The original proposition fis to limit the time to fifteen minutes upon all propositions; the amendment excepts from the rule the p Mr. Warrmy—I wich gentlemen to dew ‘Voting upon this question, they do not place a gag upen themselves. Mr. Bisnor, of Covnecticut—In order to terminate the discussion, Witb the leave of the gentieman from Alabama, I will adopt his amendment and demand the previous question. The previous queetion was seconded and the main ques- tion orgered. ‘The resolution, as modified, was then agreed to. Gen. Jars Smovs, of South Carolina—I desire to offer a resolution which posmbly meet the views of gentle- men, and, with the permiesion of the Conveat'on, { wiil read it, send it to the Chair, ana make one or more obser- vations in explanation of it.’ The reeolution is offered by the consent of my delegation, and is in the iollowing ‘words :— Resolved, Thet such part of tbe south gallery of this hall ag way be necessary for ‘he accommodation of aliernates, be re- served for their use. and that the remsining parts of the gal- lery be opened for the public accommodation. Mr. President, I have but a single observation to make, and I promme the convention not to occupy their time. According to the present arrangements Jn this Convention the Executive Committee have given out a very few tick- ets of admission to those who are not delegates. It is very manifest and plain tbat no rule can be adopted in regard to tickets of acmission which will not show some partiality. Therefore, a8 1 am taught by the great master of the law that justice is equality, 1 am in favor of patting all upon the same footing. Another observation I will make is this:—I believe that, according to the genius of cur government, all deliberations of public political bodies should be with open doore; and, untess they are engaged jm the exercise of administrative or executive iunctions, there is no necessity for excluding the people from wit. — their deliberations. One other ol ‘ation T make is simply this: that never before so far South have ‘we bad such an assemblage of the heads of the people of this great confederacy, and I am desirous, Mr. President, that the people of the South, in this first experiment, shall, with equality and without partiality, witness the de- Wberations of this boay. 1 wish, in this city,the metropo. Ma of the South, that all may have an opportunity of look- yo Se geal assembly, for I may be permitted to say, wi we look around this hall, America may say, with the mother of the Gracchi—these are my jewels. Mr. Vattanpicnam, of Ob%—I beg leave to correct the ‘statement of fact unintentionally msde by the gentieman from Sonth Carolina. The Committee of Arrangments Dave iesuod some 700 gallery tickets. They have dis- tributed one to each delegate in this Convention, for the purpose of providing that just and equal distribution which ought to prevail in a democratic Convention. If these galleries were thrown open to all they who hi come one, two and three thousand miles m‘ght be ex- cluded from witnessing the deliberations of this Conven- tion. The committee, therofore, in order that each State might be represented, not only upon this floor, but in the galleries, determined to issue to the chairman of each delegation a number of gallery tickets equal to the mem- bers of that delegation—the distribution ig left to the Preference, of of the respective del course, would be given by each delegation to citizens from the State which that delegation representa, and justly so. Some States are not represented here by gentlemen not members of the Convention, and these tiskets ey, apd three regularly issued, have been enough, certainly, to fill the galleries, because no tickets been isgued to the ladies’ galle that there are probably no more here than id number of ceesary may be permitted, the prees of the city of Charleeton some thi teen tickets. Not one complimentary ticket to any man from any State of this Union, except one, has been issued, while complimentary tickets, fifty, sixty, or five it may befin number, have been issued, and most justly and 1,t0 the citizens of Charleston, who have been ght in connection with this committee, to the eee ateemened sina = of South Carolise, This remer! rendered pertinent and approprisie, perhaps. been made, ing the ge that ayer epee adele) yeeros wisbes of those wi ay ire to be present aud witness the deliberations of the Convention. Mr. VattanpicHsm—I will close with thie simple state- ment, that every in the city of Charleston is repre- sented upon this floor—some with feur or five tickets alone; and that the citizens of this city are represented sige oe Uickets. In justidcation and de- a of Arrangements I submit this matemen! ‘Mr. CraiG, of Mo.—I desire to make an inquiry of the Chair. Will the Chair inform us whether that resolution provides for clearing the ladies’ gallery and throwing it open to the pub! Ryxpxns, of New York—Sa: Captain jon CocuRANE, of New faoae Mr. ' }itical Convention, are modified and mel'ified constituency | itis our business bere to make such @ emo- party of the whole country, and to nominate a can- didate for President who will enable us to unite as one man from tte waters of the Atlantic tothe shores of the Ex 80 delegation is more anxious to APRIL 30, 1860.—TRIPLE roundings about them. Believing that, 1 present Lee py 4 1 am right bere in a bevy of ladies, and heré is the firat, order thatwe have bad gefar in the Conventiog. o- 7. 1 wil) say to gentlemen who are not so nae, if they campot keep order as we can here now, {hat we will lend them a few of the ladies who have graced with their presence this part of the hall. (Langhter.) Mr. Cocnraxn, of New York—The geutieman peed not | be rurprivea that we of the New York delegation are agi- tated at the discussion of so delicate a question. He would bes very good man who would not be disorderly | unger such ol cumstances. Mr. CraiG—The gentleman wants me to tell the ladies that he is bachelor, (Roars of laughter, proionged for some minutes.) But] need not have volunteered to mako bat supouncement, for the Jooks of the gentleman cannot 1 move to jay the resolution on the table, and upon that J demand the previous question. Mr. Cootirays—Will my friend from Missouri lay his bacbelor friends upon the table, (Laughter. ) Toe Paeuvest—The gentieman from New York will pause unti! the Chair understanas what was the motion of the gentleman trom Miskourt. bir. Cocirans—Tbe motion is to lay on the table the bachelors of New York, (jaughter), and op that the gen- tleman from Mirsouri demands the previous question, A Voice—That is not debatable. Mr. Cocrranz—Tke previour question is not debatable under parlumentary Jaw, but by the Jaw of nature a mo- \sou to jay bac!ciors on the table is debatable. (Laugh- er) Mr, CraiG—1 moved to Jay the resolution upon the ta- ble, but I did pot move to lay the bachelors of New York on tbe table, ior they were already there. (Excessive merriment ) Mr. CocnkaNE—Mr. President, I am astonished that my triend trom Missouri ehould express the opinion that the bachelors of New Yerk are alreedy on the table. Sir, the vacbelors of New York stand firm in their pesition, and they will always maintain it. But, sir, our delegation are ready to eniertain the proposition of the gentieman from Missouri, and will receive all his companions be chooses under the scriptural rule that ‘he who giveth (Immenee laughter a Some further convereation of a playful natnre occured, when it was cut short by the peremptory mandate of the President, who ecated that he would not have permitted it ut all bad he not been under @ mieapprehension as to the precise condition of the business before the Convention ‘The resoiction of Mr. Simons, of Soush Carolina, was then laid on the table. Mr. Stvant, of Michigan, inquired whether the com mit- tees organized by the Convention were ready to report. Mr. Siuigy, of Minoegota, stated that the Committees on Credentiais bad appointed a meeting at one o'clock, wen their report would be ready, and they would goon alter be ready to present it to the Convention. Mr. Stvaxt, of Michigan, after consaitation with several delegates as tothe hour of meeting, which would best suit the convenience of gentlemen, moved that when the Convention adjourn, it adjourn to meet at four o’clock this evening. Mr. Lawrence, of Louisiana, asked whetber, as the Committee on the Platform would not be ready to report ‘uDti) morping, it would not be be better to adjourn until ten o'clock to morrow. Mr. Brooxs, of Alabama, wished to atate, in order that the Convention might understand why they should not meet again at one e’clock, that the Committee om Creden- tals would not be ready to report by one o'clock. A Drixzcars—Can they by four o’clock. . ;Tcan Ybjection to meeting at four o'clock. 1 move that when the Convention adjourns, Sir, I see no difficulty in disposing of "Sire Sreant, of Mlchigas—That was my motion, bat 1 ir. Srvarr, of was my vat will change it, and move that when the Convention ad- journe, it adjourn to meet at five o'clock. Mr. Lvupock, of Texas, sald that it was well known tbat the dinner hour in this city wasfrom two to four o'clock. It was well understood that no committee would be ready to report before four or five o’clock. Let them adjourn till five o’clock, and then every gentleman would bave dined, and they could go without supper. Mr. GattacuEr, of Connecticut, as a member of the Committee on Credentials, desired to say that that com- mittee would be ready to report by one o’clock. As there would probably be some discussion on the report, it was devirable that they should meet not later than four o'clock. Mr. Dent, of Pennsylvania, moved to substitute seven o’clock for the hours already named. motions for seven and five o'clock were voted down, and it was then ordered, nem. com., that when the Convention adjourps, it adjourn to meet at four o'clock, The Presipgnt laid before the Convention a letter from the Commissioners of the Orphan House of Charleston, inviting the delegates to visit that institution—to inspect its organization, ite domestic arrangements, its discipline, its economy, and more especially the educational depart- ment of the institution. The Convention then adjourned until four o’clock this evening. AFTERNOON SESSION, ‘The Convention reassembled at four o'clock P. M. E. O. Perri, of Brooklyn, New York, was appointed Reagan Seen, of the Convention. Col. Wricur, of Marrachusetts, moved that the Commit- tee on Resolutions, when report, be empowered to report in print. His object was to allow every member of the Convention to bave an opportunity of seeing exactly what the resolutions are when they are presented for the action of the Convention. It war not probable that the committee would be able to report wntli tomorrow, and therefore there would be no delay, as the resolutions could be printed during the night, moved the previ- ‘ous question. ‘The previous question was seconded, and the main ques- tion ordered; and under the operation thereof the mution ‘was agreed to. Mr. Lowny, of Indiana, in view of the great difficulty ‘and inconvenience experienced at each successive meeting of the Convention, in obtaining admission ixto the hall, offered the following resolution :— Resolved, That the officer of the Convention having charge of thet matter, be and he is hereby required to have the doors of the Hall of the Convention opened for the adwisaion of those entitled to enter st least one hour before the time set for each meeting of this body Mr. Wustcorr, of New Jersey. Wide open. (Laughter.) The resolution was agreed to. The Prasipent laid before the Convention an invitation to the delegates to visit the branch of the State Military Academy in this city. Mr. Lowry, of Indiana, offered the following resolu- Resolved, That s commitiee of one from each Btata be ap- potnted by the delegates thereof to recort the names of one person from each piste to constitute ihe democratic Nations! Committee, to enntinue in office until their ted. whose du'y {I couelder 4 vention the prover mode of constituting the next Convention, Mr. Burvert, of Alabama, moved to amend the resolu- tion by acding the following:— ‘and ssid committee shall not iaeue tickets of admiasion to oe Soar of fhe Convent, to any delegates whose seats may ‘con! Mr. , Of Arkansas—I offer the following as an amendment to the amendment:— . And exid eommittes shall have power to fill any vacancy orcurring in said commitiee. Mr. Lowry—In offering this resolution, my sole object was to briog this question before the Hot that it is proper to Jeave the fizin; d, for the holding of the next Nation: - tion to the National Committee. By that means we may be able to avoid the difficulties which have been encoun- most appropriate place, and taken Into consideration, the obtained for the an Alabama. I submit that if that amendment were adopt. ed, it might result in the most disastrous It might result in this, that no other Democratic Convention could ever assemble, bocause the sca's of a mejority of the from the States of this Union might be contested, and if those were not to furnished with tickets of admission, we find geatle- men coming here, with their in mouths, un- able to obtam admission to the and, there would be no quoram present for . nees. (Applause.) I hope that it is not proponiion ‘to cast any imputation this \tiously. to the very aseembling democratic National iasue tickets to the various, and I hope that the amendment of the gentleman from Alabama will not be J move, therefore, that the ‘amendment be laid upen the table, and I call the previous question upon that motion. The Pamivent—The effect of ent, ywRr—I cheerfully withdraw it. Mr. Dawson—Then I ifan amendment would now in order. ‘The —— would not, there being two amend- ments alyead: Lg Mr. axtt of Alavama—I do not wish to consume the time of the Convention, but I desire to state that since Ihave been acquainted with the of National Democratic Conventions it has been of universal occur- rence thas the d from the State of New York, or from some other State, has come up here with tested seats, and I, for one, am utterly the sur. | that SHEET. ‘wee the state of things with reference to Miseour!? There were two from thet State sis, ome Ofy whieb was athe other, knocking down our doorkeeper, pon us like a band of rufilans TF fa toany e ings; aud J want ee a ven to retaim in ie own han: power to who are.the true repreeeniatives of the ¢)f!erens States of a racy. Mr. PocH, of Obio—It seeme to me that thie discuasion ia premature. The origina! resolution propoeed not only the appointment of acomminee, but the enlargement of the powers of that commi:tee. One of the amendments Offered proposes to restrict the re of that committee, and the other etill further to ge their powers. Now it seems to me thatthe resolution aud the amendmectscan- | ot properly be discussed at this time, and! now move to commit the resolution ard amendments to s commitico to conpist of thirty turee membDers—one from each to be selected im the ueua) manner, and upon that motion I call for the previous question. ‘The previous question wae seconded, and the main ques- tion ordered to be put. The resolution acd amendments were then committed to 8 select committee. The Presipany requested the different delegations to prevent their selections of celegates to constitute the com- mittee, CONTESTED KLBCTIONS Mr. Krum, of Missour', from the Committee on Creden- made whe following report’ — ‘tieke, x committee find States of the Union ¢: t ae, Muryiand, fiolg and New York ‘The contestants in these several eases had a full and imosr- tis] bearing before your commities, ond after a full oonsidera- tion of their respective claima, your Cpe hed ore ‘thas the sit delegates representing these districts arg pany antided to thelr reapective seals, (Applause.) All ef wikich ig respectfully submitted. Mr. Krum, from the committee, also precented. aca part of the report offthe committee, ihe following resolutions:— 1. Resolved, That the slits delegates to this Convention from the State of Illinois, of whim Col. W. a. sichardaon ie Chairman, are entities to ther resvective aaa'a, 2. Ri shat . mules representing i agente. i to thetr on Resolved, ‘That T. M Lenehan and Rodert J. Brent, dele. gates representing the Fourth Con, of Mary- lend, are entitled to thetr respecti 0 from the aie othe York, of wise aun Richmond tt are entitled ag such to seats therein. Mr. Brooks, of Alabama, from a minority of the same commitiee, made the following report:— Tue Hoxosanie tue Presinsxt or tHe National Dawo- ‘The usdervigned, members of the Committee an Credentials, imperious sense of-duty, are constrained todissent frees (oe reeeet ff the majority of thle commiice, wad reapect. fully thatthe two, Gelegations from Rbe State of Sad that tbe et ates thus selected be sdunitied 10 and that they be allowed two hours to report their selection; tbe t y aratelyt each to be entitled to pele ay the nt taid State to be cast E ‘WM. a KI Z sonae Bane IDGE, delogase from Georgia. W.8 BARRY, ‘trom a. VAN. B. MANNING, delogete from A Kansas ‘The minority of the committee accom, their report with the following resointion:— rf The Presiwenr remarked that the minority report only read for tne information of the Convention. It might be offered as an amendment When the proper time arrired, ‘but the report of the majority was the ouly matter before the Convention. consequence of great amount of evi- us, I regret to say that it has not under- an examination as it seems to me so im- question demanded. It presents one of the most miliating aspects it has ever been my misfortuae to dis- the maas of evidence before the committee I juced the respective contestants, made, it issaid, by the most reapectable citizens of the State of New York, present, I »,0n¢ of the most humiliating aspects it hus ever been my lot to eee brought forward. 1c nfess J felt humiliated ag a citizen of the United and asa member o! the Gemocratic party of the country, xt the disgraceful specia- cle presentei of corruption on the one banc and corrap- som on the other. I trust before I call your attention to a ew facts ia this important case, | shal) be permitted to express Dy earnest hope that the State of New York will never again present berselt in so disreputable an attitude. (Gries of Good,” and apy ) And now for one mo- ment as to the testimony in the case. IJ wish you to ob- serve that, while I shall endeavor to state to you what the testimony op one side proves, or conduces to prove, the teetimony on the other pretty clearly cisproves. it seems from the testimony on one side that, on the 14th day of September, 1859, a Convention of the democracy of New York, in pursuance of the call of ite regular execatixecom- mittee, convened in the city of Syracuse. Up to thattime, there bad been no division of thet ty in State, save im the city of New York. Wibh exception, it had been acting harmoniously together. At that Convention, two eets of delegates presented themselves from the cic of New York. Ail the other delegates who presented themselves came with credentials clear and unquestioned. according to my recollection, the city of New York was entitled to seventeen delegates. But, instead of seven- teen, thirty-four presented themselves. One set was heaced, it is aaid, by Fernando Wood, and the other by Dean Richmond and Peter Cagger. At the appointed hour the Convention assembled (mark you, 1 am now telling what the testimony on one side establishes). Twelve o'clock being the appointed hour for meeting. at one minute alter that time Mr. Alvord was called to the chair on motion of @ regular d }, Which motion was carried without a disse! — rare. Lr lend auto as temporary chairman, vention was duly organ- ized, And what was the evidence of that? Here was a regular delegate who made the motion, and a delegate who. ree en ee » vent and called the ition to order. A secretary was sppointed and the proceedings commenced. What next? very ee who afterwards assembled, aud ap- 9a to this Convention the delegates who now have ir seats in this hall, were there and recognized that organization. them a ished Spaces si onerea kora Dees lo ful yaks. And who is be? The on. Jone , OF New York. Mr. Cocurays, of New York.—Will the gentlemaa allow me to explain ? \ ‘The stated that the delegate on the floor had ‘Dut fifteen minutes in ali to speak; and that he should the right of any eat aimee hip seg d with his consent, wi reluctance, having seen that the great disorder in the House of Representatives arose, in great part, from the habit of frequent dariog remarke of members. F H 5 i, E FE F . 3 committee, to the fullest extent, that he addressed the Chair, and made motions in of organiza- tion. At certain time, ho resolution was poe a heme ro and tmmedi- upon the rushed ‘o the and was thrown off ‘ben ® scene postnmet phere son portals bas ae wee) separated immediately afterwards, on -. Coch- rane, he carrying with him, according to the evidence, forty.nine out of about one hundred and twenty-cight. Some seventy-nine remained in what has called the “Wood Convention.” Tney remained transacted er Soto Rae ce See eo Shey than atjouraes, when, on meeting ag they found” the “hall closed, they ‘repaired to: Siother, ; a8 took to avail “turned up jack.” ms) reg’ up wo Bovif you will refer to the ober nde all out, or Je} them all in; and, vention will only do right By cannot rely upon the remarked to the com: 7: gs e ‘What then ? Let the State be qt ts | Sree wa. question, and to main, los veo am tee ae Wares hope that the gentleman will withdraw Sse cammtn carbon seen ntl he ar wed ren mean Seen ‘upon the whole resolution, and upon no other terms. I do ‘amendment reported minority, Mr. Wormats—All avi fe tbat the , of this com- mittee shall be heard. | think we ought to hays had the \ ight to have opened the disonasinn,. A”) I ask ia 2 ome Saar may be heard, or weme geuuemaa iD Mr, avery, of Delaware—I rise simply to a po order, that th» motion is pow out of order, and fo) Teason:—~A ma) report, gccompanted by resolu! ‘was submitted’ to this Jonvention; a minority repo) companied by a resolution. was also submitted. name question came up at Cincinnati in 1866, aad at rity report wae made there in reference to the New delegation, by pegs from Kentucky | ton). Mr. Bayard, from my own State, made a 3 report. The question came up then, which report be considered fret. It was decided at that Conve ‘hat the minority report was in the nature of an am ment and had to be acted first. 1 make the pok order, without having apy feeling upon this subject, the mipority report and resolution, made in the natu! an amendment, must be acted upon first. The Pxrusivent stated that if the previons quest which bad been demanded by the gentleman from 0 were seconded and the main question ordered, it wt Nig Us Conve toa vote in the first instance uv the three resolutions‘, and then upon the sm¢ ment offered by the gentleman from Alabama to fourth reeolution, : Mr. Wurrkry, of Delaware—I wou!d appeal to the poe el this commit Tenew his call for moved the previous question in the Committes oa Cred Viale with the expres understandiog that the queat Be. hn discussed in the Convention. (Cries of Ord order.”” Mr. Wmrscy—I tell the gentleman from South Caro! that ] co not want to call Previous question, bat I only get the floor upon the pledge that I will renew: mand for it made by the gentieman from Onio. Mr. McCoox—I vrus yield wo the gentleman from D ware upon his cudertaking to renew my demand for Previous question. Mr. Whitely then obtained the floor. Mr. Yaxcey, of Ala.—By the lew gent from Delaware, I desire to make a i to the Lopvention whether it wi not be the heigut ¢ Injustice to allow hp pt oe relation to % testing delegations without giving them opportu “ heard I suggest ‘that one of each of the “md is be allowed to present their claims to this b, ‘Appiause.) I hope wat will be done by unanimous’ sent. (Cries of ‘No, no ” Mr. Waitny, of Delaware—There is no use in ha: committee if you allow that course of proceeding. Chairman and men of the Convention, it ie with treme reluctance that | rise to argue this case, but 3d at the request of some of the members of the Com: on Credentials. I will state, ia my owa behalf, bared rae erences Ro oyged fay abge parti apytbing in reference to New York politics; p diced, ff wey use that expression to bebait of the teatants, With personal acquaintance with so1 them, I had known the political history of most ons Jeers eee eee ee me @ their favor was the fact that I bad known to be Jong democrats. But, sir, asa member of this G > tion, and ag a member of thie commitiee, I went v do and in the exercise of my judgment I come to the solemn conclusion that the sitting m from New York in this Convention represent the. cracy of that State. (Applause. So ol Mr. Baray, of a ‘gentleman in committee that he was in doubt upon this subject’ Mr. Worrx;—I did; bat I bave done what most gentlemen uvon the committee havedone, I bave everything tha: I could lay my hands on, between. time and thie, in order to make up my mind intellige upon this subject; and I will say to the gentleman fi, Miesiesippi, that when the gentlemen contesting the closed discussion—and 1 appeal to my friend f; Minnesota in eupport of my position—and when we ged @ majority of the committee to give us time, Spent pres soler aat arute s or v1 pI 9g said had made no investigation of the amr g FE i & § 4 F z ef | & ii ; < § i a i i E U 5 r | 4 & F seas g 5 iy own room, at the Voorhees House, alternates, and of every! from the by-ways and Badges yacuse. ‘There were Hon. Daniel 8. Dickinson an: Russe)) and otbers, whose names I wit ‘went there sa hards, but who were fd ‘who cue up manfaiy; hosorsbly and who came '. suppert of ihe “democraay of the Slate (ipoeee) one matter in . vention at 8 ort] a a rm i nett if 56s i i g iii} i if B ine if | ii tal fs F f ee pieze te § z fin af E a8 5 z