The New York Herald Newspaper, November 7, 1849, Page 1

ee NO. 5632. MORNING EDITION----WEDNESDAY, N THE NEW YORK HERALD. ARRIVAL OF THE WASHINGTON, @ne Day Later from the Continent of Europe. IMPORTANT FROM FRANCE. ‘The Famous Report of M. Thiers and the Speech of M. de Tocqueville on the Roman Question, &e., &e., &e. ‘The United States Mail steamer Washington, Capt, -@. W. Floyd, arrived here about two o'clock yesterday afternoon. ‘The Washington left Bremen on the 15th ultimo, ar. rived at Southampton on the 17th following, and finally sailed from Southampton on Saturday afternoon, the 20th, at 4 o'clock, P.M. The W. brings about 100 tons of bale and ease goods, of German manufeeture, from Bremen, and about 160 tons of measurement of French and British goods, from Havre and Southampton; total value about $650,000, ‘There are 70 second class and 70 first class passengers; amongst the latter are His Excellency General Saun- dors, (ex-Minister of the United States to Spain) lady, family and servants; His Excellency Mr. Rush, late Minister to Paris; the Hon. W. H. Stiles, (late United ‘States Charge d’Affaires to the Court of Vienna) lady and family; the Hon. Mr. Flenniken, (late United States Charge 4’Affaires to Denmark.) and son; the Right Rev. Bishop Southgate, (Awerican Bishop of the Turkish ‘Misr’ pn at Constantinople.) lady and family; Signorina Bertucea, prima donna of the Italian Opera, &e., &0. ‘We learn, that during the outward voyage of the ‘Washington to Bremen, she experienced most dreadful weather between Southampton and Heligoland, and ahe was, in consequence, three days and three nights performing the run from Cowes to Bremerhaven, a dis- tance usually accomplished in forty heurs. The steam- er, during the gale which then blew, fully sustained her reputation as # good sea bow It has been decided that the Washington is not to return to Southampton on the 20th of this month, but will immediately lay up for repairs, to be ready to Jeave on the 20th-of Mareh next. She is to undergo a thorough overhaul of machinery, and the boilers are to be very much improved, particularly in regard to the construction of the flues, which, it is found, do not now always generate a sufficient supply of steam. After the return of the Hermann, expected on the 6th December, she will also lay up and be similarly repaired. When these improvements have been effected, there is little -doubt the speed of these steamers will be greatly aug- mented, and that they will more successfully compete with the Cunard steamers, in regard to the rapidity of Atlantic voyaging. During the whoie of the present year, the ships of the Ocean Steam Company have maintained most per- ‘fect regularity, have never experienced any accident whatever, and have left New York, Southampton and Bremen on the appointed days and hours, without one Anstance of detention The immense freights and large number of passengers carried have yielded an excellent revenue, and there is uo doubt that the line is one producing such a traffic, both of goods and passengers) ‘as will always fill a fortnightly line of ships when established. We are informed from Havre that the Hermann was -engaged full of freight; she would have 200 tons from Bremen, and 300 from Havre and Southampton, all at Although the Washington left Southampton on the ame day that the Hibernia lett Liverpool, yet, owin, ‘tothe early hour of the sailing of the latter vessel, whiob did not the L 20th laverpool steamer. arrived at Southanip- ton on t! jog of the Washington's departure. She bad $1,185,000 on freight from the Guif of Mexieo; alse $86,000 for secount of the dividends on Mexican “bonds, and 1,000 serons cochiveal. France, IMPORTANT NEWS— THE FKENCH MINISTER OF Fo REIGN AFFAIRS ON THE ROMAN AND TURKISM QUESTIONS Oar letters from Paris extend to the 19th Ooteber. B alluding to the ministerial crisis on the Roman ich had existed for several days, one cor- party. and that this awkhard quest Legislative Arsembl tary and extracrdi ters of Wi tated explicitly (ami iD) thet the cabinet had fully supported, end would ad- shere te the expressions of juli n Lowis Napo- Jeane celebrated letter te Coboned the Pope's -manif er Aa take decided steps aguinst I nderstood. b: in the support of that the President 4 his pepularity ba ‘measure, iinproved with the republican party the French funds were slightly depressed by the rumors sitting othe hie Court of Versailles om the 18th, gave occasion for a protest on the part of the advocates tor the defence against the insults offered them by M. Petit, and which was read in court by M. Cromfoux, and d ited with the clerk fhe Attorney General reserved bis opinion for another occasion, painful excitement oceasioned by th part of members of the same profersion examination of witnestes was (hen preceeded with ‘na, Floren would be inacce; dent. ‘There is in that the Adige; of it wee of the Austrian stored, if the Freveh were at triaps were in the other was in the interest of ¢ really is that the Sovereign P dependent; but that independence had less to su: ction of France, who that of Austria, who porsessed @ great part of the country, and who by ber influence acted powerfull, on the parts whic Laetly, it was although Austria bad herself undergo: revolation, although new tdeas directed ment, it is evident that the irritation nat le with the Itali tho | incident which terminated the | } Letters from Bordeaux announce the election of t! didate Lagarde. in opposition to the le. raat candidate Mi. Havey, and M. Geathler the or- | feanist. M. Lagarde polled 26000; Gauthier, 16.000; | Kewee for |, 1,000 votes. | ad ener Taont saye :— The alde-de-eamp of the | Of Ruseia, who arrived yesterday in Paris, has om pater to the Minister of Foreign A Kisaelet the Russian Charge d’Affaires. Aft conference, the}Russian Envoy is enid to have dectared | blood spill that ror Nicholas, founding bis right upon the | pocttive text of treaties, would regard as a dvclaration trance of & French fleet in the Darda- nelles oaerured that orders have beea given to our fleet, which has just left Toulon, to joiu the F jeot off Naples othe fll te Cine secount of the incident which Jed to the duel between MM. Thiers and Bixio :—In the course of his epeech, M. Matthieu (de la Drome) ssid: “It ia not our party (alluding to the Momtagnards) who | have alternately ber t with praise ‘tour party who said that the poleon would be @ disgrace to | s were attributed to M. Tbiers—t em, they 00 longer exist.” sone ta his seat. and said. “I deny thi them. m M. Thiers, who xio, who declares to to decide sont M Pisoatory and Bixio, pointed onde — Nolock. ‘The reomnds, Aodiog Jo would not ‘t his words, 6t once entere pa y—4 ieges. eve from the o v hy dg Boulogna, ported their men at each dreds phot tne ti the seconds ered, aad de- olared thi «of each of the combatants was without mn They then retarned to thy carriages, ja and drove back to hear the conclusion of the dvbat re The whole affair did not occupy tse of Ocronen 13. dent, took the ebalr ata narter past two. WA number of local bila were oustion The Assembly then proeceded to hear reports on we [were prosented, without creating any interest @ tribune is to M. Thiers, for the of a report, (vars of curiosity.) opted without dis- at ing f the expedition to Rome 1. Gomtiemen—Th { France in the affeire of Kome bas squently discuss in both the ( onstita blies, New feotsh has bad the wise ides for expinnatiens by et Of bills demancing ore sive tion, and whick would, at the sion for furnishing every porsible fF coed the committes appointed on the brit has asd of question in & moral. religious, @od polivient pulat o hes heard the mintetera; aud has carefully copgnicanee of the different documents relative tothe matter it is net the credits the can call forth any diseneaior they are 1 necessaty. but the political set which hay ne ‘ these expen.es, and the consequenovs eiteadant o1 an intervention on th fairs by M. | sidered preferable to it The committee directs me to say, that it has no remark to make on those expenses; as they seem te have been restricted by « princi my. You will hereafter judge meet all the cost of the from the Vatican th tive reforms—the mea) for political ones ; t should not think of ov Presentative movarchy, of which she was scarcely pable of supporting the diMculties; that in ali its of concord and union, so as to pro- cure for herself, in default of Italian unity, which it did not depend on ber to confer on herself, t tages of confederation ; that above all she shi should adopt hal imprudently attempt » war of independe: together ill-timed, and without hope for h Europe had not the misfortune of bein; neral war ; and firally, if that war of independence should arise from the pressure of circumstances more Potent than the will of man, the /talians should re- internal discords, in order to enlighten ; is of true libarty, friend all of that interesting and beautiful Italy, which is for all el second country. And these wishes ot formed after events, bit were uttered from ibune in the adjoining chamber, in presence of throne which now ceases to ex! all full of hope at the aspect t, which was extending from Naples to Berlin and Vieona, and which unfortunately, in nounce their miserabl hurry to the Po andtl a minds faction of its passions a seized on Italy, and precipated her into an abyss. (Loud interruption. ) On tHe Lert — From rue same quanven.—What ! you call patriots faction? (Agitation ) M. Turers, in continuation— That faction excited the Populations to demand institutions out of all analogy with the state of public feeling and morals; it urged on toa republican form bodies ot tne people who were at the time incapable of going higher than municipal and provincial institutions. ( more; it committed the sault which was sure to destroy everything—it provoked, in an untimely moment, a war of independence, and that tault being committed, it next added the still graver one of turning against the overpments of Italy the arms of the Italian popula- ions, whom it way necessary to unite exclusively against the formidable enemy which had been 60 foolishly yoked, The consequences of these faults are well known. Austria, using the incontestible right of war, reconquered Lombardy, invaded Piedmont, the duchies of Parma and Modena, Tuscany, and a Roman States. The independence of | having advanced, has retrograded. (Interruption). On the Lert—Itis your work ! betrayed her. M. Triens, interrupting his readi Gentlemen, when we shall discuss think fit to reply. At present | stand hei 8.4 tave only to read the document whi . (Hear, hear.) The Presioxnt, to the Lefi—You think yourselver, then, it would seem, absolutely bound to interru; (Murmurs on the Left.) In the old assemblies, no o1 even thought of interruptin, M. Lesace—We are in « laughter) M. Twins (in continustion)—Liberty has retrograded than independence. Enlightened m came discouraged, and tl been brought by physic vere subjection Yet. after eo dr was all hope lost? Was nothing to be saved of what Were there not some efforts to be made to re-establish in Italy an equilibrium over which ali the powers bave a right to profit of one of them by the fault France thought that ¢. and that idea was the erigin of the ex dition to Rome—an expedition which it is impossi to decide on fairly, without goii stances which led ‘to it, Novara, was goit lore, was expected im 1847? was broken to thi of thy ho bad there the only too good @ pretext. But if Ub import will retuse of huropean ipiu ents that France is fact. on the alli Tefent tate, Co restrict rather that etween thore who de-tred that on ant event France showid fling herself torrent inte the midst of 2 thre *ho chee amou dently avd resolutely at the rame time in tending av army tbe had to act against a repubiic. | ration render eacred the We do not think #9 But did that couride ment established at the capitol? Our constitution ts defective im several murmaury on the Left) which I may evrtal | for its revieion. On the Lert. That is no reavon for you to endeavor houity (in continuation to wenken its een ight ene rm of governmen State odious or taerrd for Deatile toa government n | for its conduct confined iteeif te vp arms ngainet the libe frelen mat ‘That text deo nal quertion. Did France. there to injure the that of the Roma enough te render the anerer an (Long interruption on the left) an entery is @ against obtained She ts not # ot rhe oe acd the eplitt of the comstitution is not violated. le of prudent econo- if they are sufficient to ‘expedition up to the Slat of December; but it charges me to assure you that it thinks that they will perfectly suffice up to that hasten to speak to you of that which essen rests you here, namely, the expedition itself, the motives which led to it, and, above all, already realized and the rest i (Hear,hear ) When three years ago # noble Pontiff, so cruelly’ reoompensed for its consequences, in expectation of bei — generous intentions, gave ignal to the Italian princes . all enlightened men felt a de- prectoitation ; the States rhe should be contented with administra- eriod preparing vanced ones she the limits of the re- nd when we wero the benefits that rmurs on the Left) It is you who have f the report— matter, | may tacked it? back to the circum. Austria, after the battle of to follow up the consequences of her victory against the States of Italy, which had declared ahd was about to march on Parma, Mode- Bologna. and Rome ders in the Roman States afforded a pretext for her Intervention there. more than in any other place. The Catholic powerr had met at Gaeta to concert together on the re-establishment of an authority which is ne- cersary to the Christian world authority of would be dissolved; would be lost im the midst of sects, and Sree sbak to bottom them prematurely and vi of political liberty Now, the important act called Deplorable disor- In fact. without the the Sovereign Pontiff. Catholic unity ithout that unity, Cataocliciem @ moral world, would be overwhelmed from .Murmurson the left.) But that unity table, if the Ponti! were not indepen- | reumstance an interest of the highest order, to which the private interests of mations ought to give way, and which authorised the Catholic powers to restore Pius [X on the pontifical thro Austrian army being ready to proceed to Rome, the question arose whether France Austria coting +0, and by that act lording it, bot! whole of Italy ventip, t to acquiese in ving the power of morally and physically, over nearly the There were but two ways of pre- a step—either war, or the occupation of Reme by « French army. War was a means which government bad not used. of succese—when the Austrians were forced beyond and it would have been madness to think the favorable occasion was then remained the other means—for France herseif to go and satisfy the interests of the Catholic nations b: Te establishing the Sorereij was in the ti Italian liberty, that this courte was d. murs on the Left | Vaticw: trian ed themselves as valiently and prudently as they have done; where, in fine, it is 80 notorious that they there save the principal benefite which Pray IX. hed ii when there were chances Pontiff on his throne. ie interest o! bristendsm. and } It was in the ioterest of Franoe~ for the balance of interests. broken in Italy to the profit rtain measure re- whilst the Aus- dy mentioned. ff should be truly i would be ina nothing there, ulties, expense. aod t ters of serious 10 were unwilling to eom- could not be al . ho were ready to treausure of France on | rm of government jerate effort to maintain the balance oe, to prevent a complete counter. revolution in @ country which interests usin so high @ degree as Italy, However, if the efforts which the R map expedition were to require are not an argument | likely to be accepted on the part of thove quently propose a general war for the slightert inol- t ps fairs and thove hed (hat she should interterein nothiog, | middle course. of @ prudent snd practical which was. that France a inetion bad been the cause ef the appearance of fo- reign arms ip lraiy should # +r share of influence, to diminish the joevitable nee the faults of | jag 0 proceed there to © of evil, and te eave from the shipwreck of tal- | jan liberty rome of the kopes concvived at the sion of Pius |X. This is what France bas executed pra- | It ia trae that | ruptios orn. | ole The censtitution it umderstood thi | property 2 A reorganization of the trib | Theat the civil juridretion should be ondac prity hostile t o ey ond ruMetent poll liberty have no’ ) the poutiidal government. that Frenee fe plnead in pres ences. with whieh phe strupales to « nee of comirery infia in what abe de | ian liberty, but | not do enongh (Loud clamors on the left.) Thus all all reasons, po- litical, m and religious, tended to induce France to there. T! the destinies of Italy in place of taking Fraace for an arbitrator, vi tly resisted. Our soldiers, always worthy of themsely: stacles, they did formerly at Lodi and Ar- cole. They did more—they behaved so prudently and moderately, that their conduct has been for us veritable patriotic consolation, Soon laughter on the left.) France once present at Rome, by her army, could not commit the inconsistency of herself forcing the holy father, whom she came to deliver from vio- lence ¢ was bound to restore to him his throne and his liberty, for such was her mission. But sho desired, from circumstances. a right which one has but very im counsel, If, in ordinary cir- ign should presume to say to another—“ You are acting ill, conduct yourself in ano- ther mapner,”’ he would commit act of usurpation and impropriety. But @ sovereign who comes to re- establis! other, in a common interest of order, huma- nity, religiom, and political See, finds, in the gravity of the circumstances which have induced him to act, the right of France, in making the effort which she iad @ right to suppli- cate the holy father. (Loud interruption on the left.) ‘A Voick —How supplicate? M. Tuirns, addressing the Left—I am really surprised at the interruption; yes, 1 am astonished that hono- rable gentlemen have not sufficient pride to comprehend the value and foros of that expression, when applied to & power which bus not 600000 men!’ (Loud applause on the right) M. Thiers, in continustion—France has a right to supplicate the Pope to adopt measures to aa- tisfy bis populations, and to appease whatever leziti- mate discontent might exist. France found the hel! father not less generous, or less liberal, than in 1847. But circumstances had unfortunately changed. They who had made use of his benefits, to throw Italy into disorder—to drive from their capitals the most liberal princes—bad produced a double amount of prejudices amongst all the enemies of Italian liberty, and whose repugnances Pius [X..at the commencement of his reign. had so courageously affronted. The difficulties, alreddy great at the beginning of Roman liberty. had consequently singularly increased, by the use of that liberty, during the two years which bad passed over. France had a right to say that there was danger alike to grant too little as well as to grant too much. She had aright to say that the Roman administration, as it exirted up to the accession of Pius 1X , was impossi« ble to be maintained in the States of the Holy Sve If we contest to the Romans the right of overturning, in the nama of their sovereignty, the temporal power of the Pope, so necessary to all Christian Europe, no one can deny that they are entitled to have a just and en- lightened government, and in copformity with the morals aud habits of the present day, Pius 1X. under- stands perfectly all these truths, and a first important act ban dust emavated from his free wnd well-considered will—the metu proprio, that has given rise to so much discussion, Your committee has maturely mined that act—pot that it thinks that France has a right to decide on the merit of the institutions foreign People; but it examined it, in order to ascertain whether the councils which she had a right te give had borne such fruit as would lead her not to regret ber intervention in Roman affairs. Well, then, by a v ‘y great majority, your committee declares that it per- ceives in the motu proprio a first benetit of @ real cha- racter. and the value of which nothing but unjust pre- judice can prevent apy one from perceiving ‘That document we will examine detail when the public discustion comes on. But at present, confining our- selves to conridering the principle of the document, we y say that it gives such munielpal and provincial liberties as are desirable; and that as to what regar ls Pclitical liberty, euch as consists in deciding the affairs of a country ip one or two assemblies, ia coneert with be executive power, as for instance in England, it is that the motu proprio does not accord it, or at least it only gives the first rudiments of it, under th form of a consulta, deprived of deliberative voice The real question, then, is this—to ascertain if the Roman tates are actually capable of s régime which England ceeded in giving herself after twe centuries of experience andefiorts. That is » question of im gravity, which it belonged to joly Father ai resolve, and the subject of which it was important for for the Christian world not to run any risk. preferred th do not recognise in ht to blame him for, and we see no reason why 1d do a0, Municipal end provincial hibertie jueation, through which it is useful to cause @ people to pasi itis desired not to tly into the stormy career quity distribution of public classes of citizens, en- ofa wise \wfiuence continued with prudence, ealrs, and respect; ite, an influence which should coustitate, we repeat, an in- admissible pr e cireumstances not led us vo ise it, but which, condi suitable bounds is perfeetly compatible with the inde- pendence and dignity of the Holy See. (Applause on the Kight.) But, im presence of the results obtained, it is impossible to regret that oar woldiers are at the where they occupy the place which the Aus- jiers would oceupy; where they have conduct- y dispensed to his people on his accession. New, the question is, ought they to remain there still for suy length of time ’—a question certainly diMealt to be re- solved, for it is iimporsibie to declare the moment when the Pope may be able to do without our auny, ine country whi ocmmotions, The interest of Frat much as possible this ceoupation, for bas been the theatre of such recent to abridge a joes not want to make # conquest, or to exercise ® usurped domins: tiop She desires to scoomplish the task which neces. sarily belonged to one of the eatholic powers that of restoring the Holy Father and consolidating him on his thrope—by reeonciling, not bis person, which had no need of it, but his government, with the prudent and enlightened part of the Roman population, by menpe of wise and useful reforms A ‘tion of our tark it scovmplished We desire that the rest should be accomplished as soon as possible, aud that oar troops rhould soon leave the Holy Father (whom they ‘went to deliver and not to oppress). peaceably esta lished in bis Stetes The government bas naturaily adopted for the credited ded the end of the year, conforming to financial rules. Fer the preseut mo- ment, it bas not thought fit, noresn we either, to | Seelam any other "(Loud marks of approbation.) her to restrict | what ciroumstances demanded — | Ordeted to be printed and distribute M. J. de Lasterare presented the report on the sup- ry credits + p'Axy prevented. in the name of the Com- on the Budget. @ report demauding an iujuiry inte the general sorviers of the pavy. ‘These reports were ordered to be printed and dis- tributed ‘The sitting was then brought to « close, at a quarter- past four. Important Speech of the Fre Foreign Amairs on Homan Questioa. Lrortative Aeron erise ov Trunspay. Ocr 18. ‘This being the day appointed for the discussion on the affairs of Rome, the pubjic tribunes were crowded M. Dupin, seu, the president, took the chair ata quarter past one ‘The order of the day was the discussion on the bills emanding supplementary credits for the French ex- pedition to Reme M_ ne Tecauevitin, Minister of Foreign Affairs, as- cemdrd the tribune. and stated that he purposed, be fore the discussion took place, to lay before ths Assem- biy, with perfect freedom, the course which the overnment had pureued, and what it intended todo merits to be well received by those who believe | fur the future, He did not think it necessary to go od etill for a long time, as long in of Europe ace combined in their tend het action. most insignia a over the whole of the ground already so frequently He would, however, say, that it had been ject of all those who origioaily voted the expe ome, to restore the Pope THe L (with a sudden burst of excla- No! right, im reply. with equal energy—Yos. interruption took place here, which « « Forrion Arr he dition but to ul om the left) nesinen — Here, before the discussion begins, you are introducing a dispute—do Keep silent wy the great object of the (ow wet we it the sue means would be Jur interests of the Catholic werld. in serreboration of | there acrertions, he would rend to the (sembly s note acdresred by } de | curceliee +m August Ly, to Car dial Antone Vhe bie cocume b deck republie thought it b Fa ber, Ist. Chat several principles, already egre the Pope it Maret, 1648 showid be gaaran evieh he liberty of tbe pereon, and invi terms of e1r6t Justice, aod. as much as could be & My ed according to the ode Napoleon 4 That comme | LA) and provinoial aseemblies ebould be established. 5 That the conswite should be eppointed.&e The re weirder OF Lhe document dwelis on the respect feit by the Frenen Tewent for the Popo. amd tte great de. fire te Coutibate as mueh ae posible t> feuder his course am eRty one afler his testoration, [fhe homor- abie pestieman read tae doo} that it was diffoult to follow him } put forth were those origi: interfere in Rome, and aceordingly she sent an army | ment, which hed been the faction whieh for Years directed | sion (t! The principlesthus ly made. Another docu- ibject of so muoh discus- he letter of the President of the republic,) had loned precively the same matters (mov. There was merely this overcame all ob- | articlesin the des) solemnity, the letter ef the Pr ) in @ familiar manner, as one might write a rtoa friend. The government fully approved of the contents of that document, (hear, hear, hear |— The principles which he had been favourably responded to mt mentioned jast spoken of, had That dooument fully realized the hopes of the government ter on the Left), as it had realized most of d laughter and ironieal eheers juarter) He maintained that what he ly borne out by the motu proprio. What had the government of the republic demanded? romised; judicial reform —pro- nd laughter on the left.) ble gentlemen might doubt the veraeity of the Pope, if could not deny that those re- (Hear.) The French govern- ment hed further demanded liberal provincial and mu- nicipal institutions; they bad not been merely promised, d given in the fullest manner; it had also ‘Who could deny that it had been satisfy all moderate, liberal, and 8, there was every reason to hope that what the Pope had already granted would not stop short, but would be carried further. declare, besides, that the motu proprio had produced an of & most favorable character, on the | ¥ 5 (Marks of denia\on the lett.) asserted was fu) reform—it had been they pleased, but th forme bad been promi demanded @ consulta. 60 given that it woul sensible minds? immense effect States of the ¢ A Voice—And the ampesty? ‘Yhe Ministen or Foxeian Arvaixs then read letter d proceeded to torch on the state Rome after the French army had entered -there, and alluded to the order issued to cause all foreigners to uit thecity, The French commander had preferred t eourse to entering on a course of delivering up men who were guilty to punishment. Minister referred to the amnesty, and the exceptions | affixed to it in the proclamation of the cardinals. He | rend a despatch frem the French representative to the | that he had represented to his Hotiness, at an interview, that the French government hoped to eee that measure of 28 possible, and that the Pope the communication, 8 | By. to that effect; =. Father, declarin row extended as much ed favorably reoviv Already several of the restric- tions bad been removed, and the amnesty exceedingly extended [noise on the left}; and he had fall cond- ¢ tioly Father, that he would continue to the end the part wnich he bad so menced, (noise from various parts of t AllEurope would encourage the Sovereign Pontiff in his endeavors, and by degrees and liberal measures would efface t revclution commenced in violonee and assassination, | [tremendous noine on the left } M Vous mentes, (you Ue). jloriously com- sad effects of a ksipext—A concerted system of interru: ‘© have been arranged at this side, (th been for some time on toh to avi: M. Testelin, | bev you have just eaid is an in lly call you to order. Lhave also to state that if strictly follow up th (Murmurs on the lett ) The Minisrex or Fonrion Arrains—-The restora- time past been wit- europe, ought to prove ou persist, | shall the regulations, which have for xo and throughont to us of what value is that which and we ovght to render thanks to H. Deen successful in our efforts in Franc Ita voice has beon heard in thi u and the government of the republic will steadily tim the path which it has entered now exposed to you the di France relativeto Rome; t! decide on them, he sitting was then suspende: | object of the interrcgatories was to fix the attent | prove sembly and the coun- (Loud applause.) for a quarter of an the Red Re abiteans Engaged in monstration MOST EXTRAORDINARY SCENES IN THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE O¥ VERSAILLES, FRANCE. Sirrixe oy THe 10TH o¥ Ocronen. The babitual tranquillit little disturbed b; h transferred to that piace Justice, whieh, up to that rleans; but thi National Court period, bad held its sittings at which appears to have beem im the crimes of the revolution, the present occasion, in order to guard against ventualities, the had noreased, imposing military force was stationed 1a the the Palnis fo Sage hi is 7 fusion in the interior of the carried out, Ata quarter past to the public tribunes were thrown oj ately filled, without the slightest mew bers of the jury were successively introduced. and ‘on benches raised on the rig! raised opposite th At eleven o’alock, the ju d Look their seats, M Barenger, fi ei measures taken ten the doors leading turbance. The judges. MM. Pat betitutes, also fo bogs oJ bad the right to make such observations ~The sitting is opened. neral, jative Aseembly of 10th A with the ordo | the High Court of Justice for the following terms:—‘Gentlemen— You to compose this grand national jury, which the ¢ tution bas instituted to try crimes, #piracies, which it has defined; ite wish wae, that when & tericus and threatening attack was directed ageinst the seeurity of the country, it should be the whole country whieh, by its authorised ready in porresrion of its confidence, should pronounce judgment on thore acts which had placed wo hich associates y: what is most respected in the world work of justice of that cool, calm aod impartial justice which to be all powerful is not the less humane, which derives ite foree lees from the irrevoeability of its func- toms then from the circum he ther It acquite +r indulgence due to « prerentativer, al- tion with which, wi it knows how to unite the ‘acts of errors of judgment, and the inflexible severity ealled for by Che perversity This, geatlemen, members otedndes which ell a8 & gromt of facts and of intentions, of (be Couneil-General, is an act of di the constitution expects from you, a @uty which it impoers on you. Cuil all parte cf Franee, withou> any other boud between you than that of a eommen attachment to our eommon aware that this sacred justice, in wbich you are called on to take part, will be one of the most serious attributions of the mandate conferred on you, and the most important act of your public lite. You will show yourselves, gentlemen, worthy of this Removed from party feel which are 0 formi men than you from the neighborhood of the centre of op, you will oply be inepired with the confided to your oare; you will only ‘ha; your verdict will be the voice of your country, you m ings, recured from coneciences ** The Kegistrar then proceeded to eall over the names of the jury, 79 im number # were called over w xcused on the plea The court then retired to ballot for thore who were definitively toform the jury, which will be composed of B¢ member- ond four supple: ntary immediately after the court had retired, the prisoner Hubert wae brought im, guarded by two gen darmes. He is a men of stout stature bis face bis bushy eyebrows, his mall bat a bis pale complexion, ga evence an arpect of harshness and resolution In consequence of this incident, which took place ing of lots for the jury, the court before that operation was Gerard, made The long beard whieh PSF during the d feain resume: known to the court that ry prevent formed part of the National Constituent As rly at the period of the Lot t, he said, demand to have their m ed from the list, but merely that thelr pos néer the degree of viele 92 of the o + regularized by «decision of the High Court. ner was then rend, ce ta relation fembly partion etek oF Forkion Arrarns.—It was also de. d that that restoration ought to be liberal and Laying down these principles aa the point ints, (loud | 4 depert the negotiations were entered on aad put- ly be allow. | pr bo —. meg So the Freneh iy olf teseen | eetabliched is Lome the Freneb government set about ed to remark, since it hus iteelf foreseen and provided Baie we wpa y Legh gs | otjecs. he did not fear to affirm most earnestly wehed for by the great majority of the Komau population sof bo! eo! from the left.) Bat the Frenoh | overtmment never had any idea of forcing the Pope to | bt proper, It only desired to employ would be considered eanetioned by good | fepre- to induce bim te grant Fach tetieteos ar dseneible and would sait the general dietment against t after wbich an altereation ree whom the prisoner wished to eal Court adjourned ov Tirn or Ocrownn es ‘id that the charge against rt. +f baving be f the tallem government, nly made by a Jannat decided that Narpeil am ceeoutton were then eal Minister then read the roeeoutt d that the government of the ight toclaim from the Holy caye | bad bravely and fraakly 00. operated in the Cleetion of 10th December, | was to refrain from pro- testing. In my opinion it was evident that the eon. stitstion had been violated | thought it right to go tothe meeting. A confused debate took place, and | spoke | insisted on the necessity of first employing | | the consticuticnal means we had at our disposal the press and universal suffer, | recommended that such precious arms should not be compromised; that if the | meeting would Lot watt fer 1S0z. the opposition should | Jare iteelf em prrmonence. and that it should consider the only true expr seion of the national repre- mn the lote of May, when | to clear the Arrembiy of the n ” | cn which was written § | Hubert explained t > olwar the piace and prevent bl | nesee depowed to the tact of Hubert having dome all tn | his power to atear the bell ef the mob. Mounter wae thet estied. but sald nothing amounting to ® proof that Hubert had been s seoret agent of the 5 in #0 low & votes, 1 he Court then adjourned TWO CENTS. ‘The prisoner iubert intarrogeted a witness, Mounter, e prisoner Hubert inte: ted a witness, Mounier, who bad testified as to seeing letters from Hubert, which proved him to have been a 6 4 of the Orleans goverpment. The witness comtned| imaelf to saying that be had teen letters from Hubert containing reve- lations made to government, but he did not affirm Hu- bert was a regularly employed agent. Some letters con- tradicting and disproving the allegations of Mounier, were put ip and read, Husmur then entered upon his defence. The only ob- cot was to defend his honor from the charge of having en a spy Of the fallen government From this charge, it reems. he perfectly cleared bimself. The Parsipenr then summed up the case, and the jury found him guilty, by a majority of more than 23, He was then sentenced to transportation. Strtive oy 137m Ocronenr, od. E, Dupelix, ne,a man of letters; A. J. La A jureap, editor of the Demo- eratic Pucsfi a Cg terse pd F, Seuhet, do; J. L. ;.8 F. Fayotte, do ; V. Filhes, do.; J. B. e, do ; C. Book, do.; L. L. Vautbier, do.; M do ; C. F. Gambon, do.; A, Lowrion, de.; J. A. Guinard, Colonel of Artil- 3 A. L. Acheahy 4 oF of the National Guard; ; J. B. Merillo; —~ Maubé. Cay ; A. kM. de Chalendar, do.; L. A. tot” National Guard; V, Angelot, ; M.A. A. Lemaitie man of letters; H. J. Polonel of the 6th Legion, and artist; C. chmitz, architect this list, it will be seen that the prisoners on trial f high stan and education—the greater ntatives of the people ight names of persons, tried by default, were then called over, among whom were editors, literary | men, reprerentatives—such as Ledru Rollin, Sergeant | Boichot, Felix Pyat, Arago, Lechevaller, and others, all distinguirhed and eminent characters, The Pxesipent announced that now was the hour, if by | of the prisoners had exceptions to make, jamuon hereupon arose, and protested against the | Competency of the court to try them. ‘The various counsel for several of the prisoners made jections to the competency of some of the jurors, as Joell as protesting winst the illegality of the court, and all its proceedings. The Arronxzy Gexxeat replied, at great length, to all the objections, and they were overruled by the court, ‘The Parsiveny then mad h to thejury; after which, the indiotment against the prisoners was partly read, when the court adjourned Sirtixe or l4rn Ocroner. The remainder of the indictment was now read, : of the parties |, and enters fully into @ detail of all the parti- culars of the josurrection, and the separate conduct of each of the prironers, as connected with it, making out @ strong case that the object was to overthrow the go- vernment and National Assembly. After the reading of the indictment, the court pro- eceded to the interregatory of the aceused. Crratenpar made explanation: Cuirron refused to ans Anpxe eaid there was ound for the accusation | against him. Duve.ix protested against the violation of the con- stitution. Naro.xon Leuon declared he would answer no quos- In fact, most of the prisoners refused to answor. The DENT recommended the prisoners to for their own sakes, and explained to them 2 w ion on that they might be 6 the chat ph nae! each of thet Pro Notwithstanding the Presi appeal, the accused continued to refuse to ani . At this stage of the proceedings the Court adjourned; the President previously observing that the prisoners would be able t+ fect, before the next morning, on the inconveniences of the system they had adopted. Sitrine or ld1H Octonen, gatories, and papers found in the resi- aceused, were now read as part of the evi- them. ‘To the varieus enquiries made to Former int dences of the den ce agal | the prisoners if they admitted having done certain | vicaillor bas been but | 8°t%,&¢ » they mostly refused to answer. of the trial which has just commenced | st symptom of agitation red curious observers, at thi After the reading of documents, placards, lotters, re- orts of speeches, Xc., relating to the émeuir, and call- pg upon the prisoners for explanations, the Court ad- | ai journed. Srrrine or 16ru Ocronen. ‘The interrogatories were continued; and the several said to have been the intention | expianations, recritainations, corrections and objeo- | and he could not " ious, made by the peisenens, having been beara "che | ene ne ceua not wa Parerent eald, the Court will now proceed to eall wit- report, | posses. jed all the perrons who were present at @ demonstration was pacific. He saw General Changarnier arrive with his dragoons. At the head of the procession he saw MM. Bastide and con- | Arago, and # colonel whose name he did not know. If there had been a representative of the people he should have recognised him. ‘The Arronxey Genenat. said be did not accuse Pil- his of having been at the demonstration. Pi:nxs observed that theindictment did. ‘The Arronney Gevexat said that was true; but it id not assert the thing positively, and it procesded to say:—Whetber, however, he was there or not,” ko. (Laughter, and murmurs by the prisoners.) He calied ou the accused to refrain from expressing approbation or disapprobation, ‘The accused, Vavrwiem, expressed astonishment at the observation of the Attorney General, as it was the task of the President to preserve order. ‘The Paxsipxyr said that was true; butstill the Attor- © might think necessary. ‘The Arronxey Gexeaat Observed that he would not allow bis right #0 to do to be contested, and that the President would aid him to preserye it. Several other witnesses were then called and ex- ainined M, Ear e px Ginanprn, editor of the Presse, Rue de Chaillot, 104, was then examined. Having been asked his age, he raid that to the beet of bis belief it was trom 48 to 4 yours, The Puxsivext—Aro you the relative of apy of the accused? M. vx Ginanvin—T think not. Do you know them? A —Ye-, but not partioulirly. The Presivent—On the 11th Jane you were convoked ass member of the vomniittes of the press? M. vx Greanorx—Monsieur le President, before am | swering | must make known to the court, the jury, aud \e the defence, a factwhich is in contradiction with tha, very noble words which you, M. le President, pro-* nounced at the commencement of this trial, when you said that the “ authority of justice was not measured only by the degree of enurgy which it displayed in its | actions, but further, and especially, by the uprightness | of its means to assure the trium ph of truth!’ ni was | called into the cabinet of the examining magistrate, [ found @ member of the parquet, who appeared to direct the investigation, and who put questions with @ degree of cleverness, not, | must contess, im relation to the Uprightness of the means of whieh you have spoken. | ‘This fact bas appeared to me grave—so grave that | | cannot remain riient. | sm not very familiar with the | useges of criminal justice; but! bave ascertained who | was the person who assisted the examining magistrate with so much seal, | learned that he is a member of the parquet Asli am very short-sighted, | caanvt see whether he be now present, bat I can name him--his | y; name is M. de Valice, The pertinacity with which he | ut questions tome made me profoundly indigaant. | have given sufficient guaranties to order not to be | treated as a euspect,” and if resistance be wrong | when it goes to the length of insurreetion, justi not lees wrong when it goes to the of ‘The Avronsey Gexenat,~ We do not und incident raised by M. Emile de Girardin. rT a regularly; itis the usage for e member of the Parquet to arsist the exemfning magistrate. As for | the fact alleged by the witness, we find no trace of it | in hie depesttion. nor did he make any protest when | his deposition was reovived. We think that his re proach is totally unfounded. M. De Ginanpin,—It is not a reproach, but a energetic protest. The substitute in question did net confine himeel! to assisting the examining magistrate; the latter seemed bis rurveiliance, Lf | did not befere protest this, it wae because | did mot know that f rary to usage for a member of the | to be prevent at an examination, | renew my | Piphe Arroaney Guernat —It was not contrary to wege, and was quite regular M. batik pe Ginanors.—1 demand to ack if it be in | conformity with the usage iu criminal cases to say before a witness,“ What! you want to have serious men aud you call among you such a man as Girardin’ The Artonsny Grsrast,—That was not said. | EM. oF Ginanors.—1 can bring forward the witaess | who heard it | protest, with ail the force of my ia- dignation, against such @ scandal the Atronsry Gevenat.—I cannot aliow such lan- to be held. q Paesionst — The witness shall be called. What was the object of the Committee of the Press? } M. on € kor — On the 10th of Jane, | reevived « The situation was grave. | have read nd remembered that on the Z7th July, 1890, | M. Chambotle took the initiative | read their appeal to resistance. and | asked myself If, be rentation, My opinion was unanimonsly adopted. | went to the meeting of rue Coq féron, bat late, and did not rewsio long. | there raw M. Bareste, M Caylue aod M, Langlois. Ido not koow M Vauthter Nothing was eaid about coming to an understanding with the montagne but with the opposition, M. Dars, adyecate of one of the prisoners, saked M de Girerdin if be were not convinced that the plan he bed prepored was strictly constitutional ? The Arrorsey-Geseeat —1 will net allow any such question to be put The witness is not here to give opinion on eonstitattonal law ‘The privovers and theit advocates loudly protested eeeinet thie: all rove in great agitati aad losisted that M. de Girardin should 6} was great! — to speak. bot voi length he exclaim: oe wes drowned in the ice was tumult ed, “What! am I to be ing to » question of the defence? is as clear as that of the TTORNEY-Generat. faets, but not opinions ; obliged to take measures be intimidated; but I am renewed tumult arose their advocates. and when M. pe Ginanvin insisted that he hada to the jury that the dimta person, I should among the prisoners it had partially eubeldeds in order to prove the were ‘The Arrouney-Genenat, allow him to speak; partially restored, and that he self, for the eake of oa revented, it hy 3 bes M. be Gimaupin, after to be allowed to explain cured, orled:“ If | am to the High Court and maj M Datw asked Girardi iE we Guaceer It te my confident bellef. (Rene: Ho then went to explain that nt an fosurrection sisted on the fact of his having been 88 @ proof that there could have been had, he would not have been invited, exgh@ Artonner Gusmaat.—The matter iv The prisoner Lanaiois aal ipported him at the meoting at said he knew nothing more than is deposition before the examining 4 it proved that at the meeting, M. tion.) M., de Girardin if he the Democratic M. pe Ginanpin he bad stated in bi This was read, ani de Girardin had, for several different reaso insisted against ‘any attempt to cause a ri xpix then said that he persisted in stating #, ot the parquet, had questioned him with perfidiousness, ‘The Arroxney Generar said he would not tolerate uage, (Murmurs.) It was grossly improper. M. be Gikarvin.—You (Long and violent The accueed Fava said court loudly demanded silence. itation, in the midst of which M. little time, however, bsided. 7T This caused new a de Girardin with ‘ed before the commotion t witness was M. V people, He stated that hi Meetin, ~ the Démecratie up 4 proclamation of which he had of a pacific character. to the people aud national guard to take arms, which had been the Conservatoire, and he had pro- ¢ being placed on it, proved, as it was tested against bi: The court then adjourned. Sirrixe or 171m Ocronen, The examination of witnesses was continued, of whom many testified to having heard shouts of “ The Romans for ever!” “The constitution for ever !* “ The republic for ever!” and other such like treasom- able and seditious exclamations. dent occurred. ‘A witness stated, t the Rue Vivienne. he saw « young reons, who ‘orted ins vent les Komaines |”? eae dingly struck him several blows with the flat of hi a (Movement on the bench of the ‘The young man was afterwards arrested, M. Commin, an advocate, asked if th ders to strike with his sword ’ uired if the young man had been itness answered in the affirmative. M. Comurex begged to ask the jone and unarmed, could be struc The Parsroenr reid the advocate must nat queath him; and the Attorney General observed, that the ‘ness bad explained why he had struck the derstand why the wi attacked for having done his duty. wen—He did not do resident if a man, h ply)—I beg pour par- advooste, said that they wore that the witness had acted with ‘he Arrouney Gevmmat replied that that was an in- sult to the witness, and the advocate ought to Kaow better then to it. M. Perr, lieutenant of the Gendarmerie Mobile, de- pored that he commanded a detachment in of General Changarnier, through the demonstration near the Rue de la Paix. was after 4 roll from the drum, that the demonstration was among whom were National Guards tives in their sca: part of them f vanced toward the troops threw themselves on their knees, uncovered breasts, and cried, * Will Will you shed the blood o taking avy notice of thix tomfoolery. they charged with (Marks of indignation from the accused.) sailed them asrarsins ; but they were not = were rather disposed to kick tho rioters He took part i it firet diepersed. ks in good order, Forty or fifty furious men ou fire om your brethrent your brothers ?? The Presipevr askediif any roldiers had been injured. ese replied that stoves and chairs were thrown at ich injured some of them. but not seriously cused, Guixann, here observed that it was th ublic and the constitution, for wniok ar ed the last drop of our blood. d indicated by their gestures that they a; It was at the mo b injthe tree exercive of our rights as citize: the respeot of the o that shameful acts of violynce were displ peaceful and unarmed citizens bat M Guinar ndeayvormd to reou: for my part, » youn; icted on that young wound, and if it had not been for his considered oursel ves dis- ‘et could be cited agaiast us, thed a drop of blood The Arronmey ¢ the jury will not, that the th eas: attacked it in the mort The secured for rag ristance; but nosociety wo ald be possibie if thy goverm= forget that the fa tion to*be deeld that the kneeliag who were struck by your gendarmes were conspirnl Until you do that, | tell you that the: ising their righis » re is one who. forge tt national uniform imposed on him, has had the sad a rag boasting of having could Fo act i# unworthy to wear the Freneh The accused here rose, in a state of 1 and loudly cried,“ Yes yes Violent reproaches to the witness, but what they raid could not be distinguished in the tumult M. Perit, (tho witness.) turning towards the prison. ers and their advooates, raised his arm, aod, making @ dirdainful gesture, oried, is one of the conrrest epithets in the French langu “Not one of you dare t At thisa volley of vooife: of the accused gteatest exoitemen' Weare outraged © The trial is impoesible cries uttered, You are all) f All displayed che “tt is shameful Kill ue, bat do not to- ’ were among the The tumalt became truly fearful, aud in the tribunes and the jury the agitation was aise accused Baune, ina state of great exasperation, and seizing bis pepere. ~ Gendatines, take ime { will not remain here —leame here voluntarily, to be tried; bat if I bad known that | should be insulted, | would mot have given myself up!” Phe Arrenssy Gevnnar, defending the words utter: must ray. because it is the truth. t in the gravest manner, by one « that he was unworthy to wear was on that scoount that he had made use of the re prehensible expression. the scoured rove in tumult; but each dea We hare no inte ae witness; bat wo be was lasulted Freoch uolforin At the audience, yest cured who have takes part in the tumult shail be expulced from the andien the law of 183 in virtao of Art 10 o€ There has bevn applause feom the people forget that they ate ia the We persist te cur temaad Let ua be taken at one to sanctuary ot justice The accuse? Marove | will not remain to be outraged Toveree.— | de not accept tne leasvon