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THE NEW YORK HERALD. Prema! NO. 5551. MORNING EDITION----SATURDAY, AUGUST 18, 1849. THE ROME CONVENTIONS. NO UNION. ‘The Final Split in the Democracy. SHOCKING RESULT. Adjournment of the Conventions. Rome, August 15—3 P. M. “The Afternoon’s Proceedings of the Hunker and Free Soil Conventions — Immense Gathering — The Accommodations —Great Excitement in the Hunker Convention. Both the conventions resumed their sessions at 3 o'clock this afierneon; but.as will be seen by the fol- lowing proceedings, nothing has yet transpired thatap- pears like uniting. 1 understand the barnburners are very indifferent as toa union. John Van Buren is one -@f the leading members of their convention, and said, in one of his discussions, this afternoon, that he was satisfied to unite, but upon principle! or unite upon giving all the offices to the hunkers, and the principles to the free sollers ! union created roars of laughter. However, both com mittees have at last got together in private session’ and, by to-morrow morning. there will be something amore known, in regard to a union of the two parties. Never were any conventions in the Empire State at- tended with a larger gathering than has been witnessed hherv to-day. There are, at the lowest calculation, up- ‘wards of five thousand people here this afternoon, which is an immense number to attend a convention at so small @ place as this village Accommodations here are frineipally at two hotels, that are not capable of holding the bers of the Se, hy sy causes Ppa to get : be ea a lodging where they can—some going to private hou: others tothe loons, ke. Great dissatisfaction me ‘vails among the majority of all who have attended these two grand political “ blow outs,” in consequenee of twe conventions being calied at so small a place, where > mot room enough to accommodate half a arrive. . THE HUNKER CONVENTION. Rome, August 15-3 P. M. AFTERNOON SESSION. ‘Long before the hour arrived to which the Hunker ‘Convention persed bark. ghivareighoy oy he peo ves -one complete jam of delega: , and people from Sovdendes the coun! The President, Ex-Governor Marcy, came into the convention, where the members had assembied, and, upon calling them to order, Mr. Daniel E. Sickles, one of the New York delegation, anoved that the convention ta! reoees till 5 o'clock, #0 ag to give the barnburners th to act upon the jution that was passed by this body in the forenoon, and a copy sent to the other convention, to appoint a committee for negotiating a harmony and reunion. This resolution was peseod for the sole pur- oy of communicating with the Barnburner Conven- jon! During the adjournment for dinner, the resolu- tion was despatcbed to the President of the barn- ‘Durners by President Marcy, accompanied by a com- sounication from the ex-Governer, asking them to appoint a committeee to act upon the enclosed The members of this convention evi- a5 et to wait and see in whet light the other viewed the hunker resolution, and the letter that had been transmitted to them. The ques- tion of ® recess till 5 o’clock was fimally put, and lost, but as no business couid be preceeded with till some word should be received from the other con- ve the convention became a seene of confusion, and to be called to order, when Chancellor WaLwortn arose and asked the President ‘whether the resolution that was passed by thisconven- this morning, bad been sent to the other organi before they commenced their afternoon session. He was answered that it was not delivered to them till their afternoon session. — it in order, quite a number jis cenvention left the church, and Baptist church, to see what the free But « few moments had passed, when a messenger came in from the barnburners, and handed a communication to President Marey from the 8 over the baraburner them to the committee, or have them laid on the table. ‘The following is » copy of the letter from lor, the President Hor, Wirttam L, mre Ce William Tay: e other convention :— cy, PRESIDENT oF is Session at THe Fre: oft M. Democna- Paeapyte- wi Baptist chure! receipt of the resolutions which you transmitted to ‘this convention. | am also instructed to inform you ‘that this convention bas appointed « committee to meet the committee appointed on the part of the convention over which you preside. I have the honor to be, very respectfully, your obe- dient servant, WILLIAM TAYLOR, August 15, 1849. ‘The following are copies of the barnburners’ resolu- tiong, just received by the Hunker Convention: — Rhalved, That in the opinion of this convention, the present division in the democracy of New York seouhe from a supposed or real difference tn prim ple on the subject of slavery, and the construction of the constitution of the United States, as to the legislative power of the Federal government, and its duties to ex. ercise it. Resolved, That the views of this convention on this subject are as follwe: Ist. It is not questioned or disputed that Congress has the power over slavery in the District of Columbia. 2d. It is mot questioned or disputed that Congress does not possess the power over slavery in the United States. trolling test in an election. as has been unjustly | were never able to appreciate what the gazors above 3d, The power of Congress over slavery in theterrito- | charged upon us. The annoals of our party erooee | them beheld; and third, a class of progressive reform: ries of the United States is questioned; this convention | /ng* may safely be challenged for the proof that such ers, by far the most important class of the present or Aholde that the Federal gov: nt possess the legisla. | test has becn advocated by us. @ have neither | any past age of the world. In his judgment. the free tive power over slavery in the territories. and mht to | Made ruch a test, nor will we submit to it when made | goilers were justly regarded as pioneers in the great exercise it, 0 as to prevent the existence of slavery | by others; nor can the democratic masses of the State | cause of human progressand reform. The present seom- there. (A true copy be induced to sustain those who do either '* ed to be as crisis in the democratic party; that party by h Srannvck, Secretary. In the spirit and rense of the Utica resolution, above | seemed to him to be ingreater danger than it had ever After the above were read to the convention, the | fetforth, we have submitted to your committee the | been before; that party which ved his earliest and question came before them, w and letters, reevived from the barnburners , should be the conyention, or referred to the commit- been appointed to confer with the barn- . This question caused debate ‘bers in all parts ot the church—some to amend others to refer them, while others were in ‘of having them sent back to jon! The various views upon thi great ye the vast number fi ance. Soon after, one of the delegates—a Mr. frem Orleans county—arore. and ee jon in burners, whigs, abolition- | subject of slavery, as & test of democracy or @ pre-re- iste, ke. quisite to union.’ The resolutions submitted ‘Mr wa went on to say that he was opposed to convention are silent upon the subject of a test, play: sentence led many of the members to be- | our opinion epposed none. The action of each o Neve Mr. Burrows to be a red hot barnburner); and he | vention is, in our judgment, necessary to determi) anes, ding the resolutions | treat them in a true Tesumed is them to order, and the question of referring the barn- ‘burner “ resoluti-ns”’ and letter to the committee that had been appointed to meet the one from the other convention, was finally pat to vote, and they were re- ferred te the committee to act upoo. aod a motion was then by General Ward. of Westchester. to ad- Journ, which was carried. and the convention adjourn- ‘ed, amidst confusion and excitement. till to-morrow at Po'clock As the crowd began to make ® rush for the door, Chancellor Walworth. faq, begged their attention for a few moments whem he agnounced ‘that the committee that was appointed this —— to retire with the one from the baraburnees, would meet her at 7 #'clock, this evening, for the pur- pore of negotiating the question of union and recon- ciliation ‘hese committees are to council in private, and nothing of any importance na to the union will be known till to-night, at @ late hour. APTERNOON SESSION. Nothing of mach importance bas ween done this af- ‘terneon. A number ot oorrespondence, and re- solutions. bave been transi concee one convention resolutions he committee and " The committee apy is piace, to conduct the iat Prev ian chureh when whe you on the subject of anion. with a view 10 unite, and bring out the whole democratic party thus seoure the fi y of Le wey ny hat ; ciples, pore. on the part of the convention for wi they et to waive all questions as to the regularity of the two organizations, and to pase over, wichout re mark, the controversies of the last two years, Weare also willing to agree to the adoption. by both conven. tions, of such resolutions as have heretofore formed the Aemooratic platform, or #s have been usualy adopted This novel and laughable idea of hether these resolutions ed by the convention, at the by the democratic State conventions previous to the recent division in the democratic ranks; and in the re- sult of our negotiations it is our wish to see such nomi- nations made and agreed to by each convention as will be to the entiredemocracy of the State, and which, we trust, would secure a democratic triumph at the ensuing election. But as the great question of slavery has recently become a subject tation in the democratic ranks in this State, it must in some way be disposed of, before we can hope for the restora- tion of harmony and good cam even all the mem. bers of the democratic party. pecnle of the North and of the South, as is well known, entertain different and adverse diews from each other, and even amor themselves, on the subject of slavery. It now is, and for a long time has been so; and while one region tole- rates and the other prohibits slavery, nothing like unity of views on this subject, among the members of the democratic party of the whole Union can be ex- pected. There is no doubt that the general sentiment ‘at the North is against the introduction of slavery into territorities now free; yet, as members of a politcal party, we cannot admit that a concurrence in that sen- timent should be considered as # democratic principle; or be allowed to be made atest of democracy ii pet of the United States; and we are not willing that it should be made so here. The democracy of New York is a part of the national democratic party; whieh party can only hope for triumph % ape 4 its ranks unbroken throughout the entire Union, and this can- not be me or even hoped for, if opinions upon the subject of slavery are allowed to be made a matter of party faith, or to form the basis of party organization, cither at the North or the South. The democracy of the United States, well knowing this, at ail times studiously excluded the subject of slavery from their platform of principles, leaving ‘every one to the enjoy- ment of his own priuciples upon that subject, and to ‘act thereon as he should think proper; holding that @ Southern man, who sustained the institution of sla- very, was not, for that cause, less sound, as a demo- erat, than the Northern man, whose views were of an opposite cl v. always been the vie of the democrati y. re we propose to lea all questions upon the subject of elavery. If you con. cert with us in these views, holding that individual difference of opinion upon the subject iv question must be allowed to exist, and that the opinion of no one on that subject can rightfully be called in question, as involving departure from democratic principles, or be considered a test of his democracy, and are ready to act with us om that basis, in the support of the regu- larly nominated candidates of the oeracy of the State and of the Nation, we are prepared to join in se- curing the formation ofa State ticket, satisfactory to both conventions, and te the democracy at large, R.A. WALWORTH, Chairman of Committee. Avauer 16, 1849. TO THE COMMITTEE IN SESSION AT THE PRESBYTEKIAN CHURCH :— The committee of the convention in session at the or communications of both committees ty be in writing. We have.at the meeting this morning. receiveda commu- option of our vation, lowing resolution : Resolved, That we believe the people of the North are oppored to the introduetion of slavery into territories now free; but we deem it to be unwise and impolitic, and we cannot consent to make that question « party test, or incorporate it as an article of the political faith of the democracy of this State. ‘We stated, in our communication to your committee, to which we beg leave to refer, that it was impossible to expect anything lil on the subject of That subject from the platform of democrate prineipl le every one to the enjoyment of his own indivi- dual views and opinions. We can act with democra' whatever their views in regard to sl: other respects, and we that you have not proper to inform us, wl you insist upon the adop- jon of your views on the subject as a test of democra- cy or pre-requisite to union; and in desire to ascertain your views on that point, vention of those ae now represent, held Utiea, in Februs be 1848, adopted on this subject the following revolu- tions Resolved, Although such are the opinions we important question, and which we feel It to be ns comsclentloas duty to maintain to the utmost, unless convinced of their | injustice and uneonstitutionality, hi sought te impose them upon others, still | made an acquiescence in our of the subject a con- forgoing modification of the last resolution of your convention. and if your committee shall agree wiih us in that position, we recommen: lor tien to our convention.” Ril, WALWORTH. Chairman of the Committee. Tuvasvar, August 16, 1849. | convention, to submit your propor! eit ao- | tien. You that we have not thought proper to inform you whether we insist u our views upon the | | | | whatis juisite for union. Very res) lly, | pitts PRest iN KING, | _ The committee of the hunker convention instructed R.H. Walworth to offer the following: That until we are informed b; and action suspended The abeve was adopted by this convention, and ac- | tion of union was suspended till the evening session. | THE BARNBURNER CONVENTION. AFTERNOON SESSION. Rome, August 15, 1849. The Conveation re-assembied at the ~— Church in this vi atS o'clock, P.M. The President re« sumed th and called the convention to order. Mr Gnoven, late M.O© from the Alleghany district, raid be had some to offer to the conven- tion; he held in his several resolutions which he ropored to read, and to offer to the consideration of convention. The honorable gentleman then read the following "Resolved, That in the opinion of thie convention ¢ in the jon convention resent division Im the smouresy of New York res the . and the construction of the consti- or real differenee of opinion o runject of eavery tution of the United States as to i of the federal t, and ite duty Resolved, the views of this conv subject are as follows :— It is not question ed or disputed Baptist chureh say, that last svening, at the frst meet- oBve some more definite perpeaiiion dian they hed yet iy e convention, ni er 7m were prepared to 7 make any distines preposition to the other, cad scthing muir. King thought the powers of our negotiati gon. was done further than the communication by our com- [mgd vay on they more appointed, mittee of the seesiuticn Godning owe fort ond tha com Vance offered following resolution, whic! munication from your committee, verbal siste- sdopted : mend of your ee ate Jempliadecin je the Psdiioet et tne tntanrene seat village, that prior to the receipt of the resolutions nication from your committee. Our committooare pre- | Of thar wajy ‘reschatvons lena been adopted by this con: pared to state, tn reply to your committtes, that we re | vention, a copy of which we will transmit at the same Willing, with & view to unite the demooratie party, to | Lime; sud also informing him that. a commitice hes pe joa and fo paaa over, without the con doen’ appointed to meet the committee appointed by Stove etmngast yeas, We cin ay ‘The above resolution was adopted. omnes 0s jo all the established princl- | ie’ Kina then repeated his motion, that a committes aoa ees era caRerty, and are wathorised to as | of ome from ench judicial district be appointed to confer pony — - 7 with the committee of conference appointed on behalf syne tome a inion of why tsa |Win Poy eg ee sere de | ‘The motion was agreed to, and the President ap- Titereee Upon eeee eeeetIOne Of Peele Teas | pelted the fullowing as such commlttee:—Messre ‘pon dl ing, Kennedy, Brown, Beekman, Loomis, Barlow, form a ringle State ticket for the whole democracy of | (Ans nrmnedyy, Brown, aeeans bya dagts cagaatzstina, ‘The committee having received their instructions, We we a remind our committee that our coaven- Nie peneeaieatsenpedtsg ty de gemed com. ton hes sabenitted to yours ‘9 pi Upon tbe | The President transmitted s communication, enelos- question of the pomer and daty of Com | ing the above resolution, to the President of the huu- Soul reapeatfaly some sitention ot expression | Xr convention b Subsequently @ motion was made to recensider the of opinion of Pa mittee (and the | resolution ‘offered by Mr "King. After considerable convention yo °, report YOUr com- | debate, the resolution was reconsidered, Mr, John Van slavery, amongst members of the democratic . ‘These resolutions were read by the Secretary; the: Thet it bad never existed and was never looked for, | simply reiterat a reaffirmed the anti slavery pie ‘end that it was wholly unattainad! ‘e proposed to | ciple upon which the independent free soil party have our committe, as a of union, wholly to discard | planted themrelves. This principle was originated by Grexttemen—In your second communication you altered; they were separated: the d: submit a substitute for the resolutions sent to your pity be oan ag Ite unity and strength It was not for convention yesterday. You will ive that our | him todecide who was to biame for this division; bat ‘over the subject are lim We . | he it that he should give a | Pot our | reason for the faith that was in him at all times Until | yote. Mr. Grover, with some other observations, moved the adoption ef the resolutions, & Voices—I call for the of the resolutions, Hon. ‘Mr, Develin, of They were again read by New York. The question was then taken upon the resolutions separately, ‘and they were unanimously adopted. ‘he Pursipent said he held in his hand a communi- cation which he had just received from the President of the convention now in session in the First Presbyte- rian church. The eommunication was as follows:— Romr, August 15, 1849. RESIDENT oF Democratic Convene Sin—I have the honor, as President of the Demoeratic State Convention now in session at the Pirst Presbyte- rian church in this village, to transmit to the conven- tion over which you preside, a copy of @ resolution una- nimously adopted by this convention. Very respectfally, your obedient servant, W.L MARCY. Resolved, That as the convention which meets in the Baptist church, in their last communication to this convention, reiterate and insist upon s concurrence in the last of the three resolutions passed by them, and ss this convention cannot accede thereto, nor go be- yond the propositions of compromise ubmitted xy Our committe of conference, and which have not as yet been distinctly accepted or rejected, it is inexpe- dient (until an agreement shail have oecurred) to en- tertain any proposition to meet in joint convention. Upon the reading of this letter, and the resolution which it enclosed, an animated and interesting debate ensued, in which Messrs, King, Barlow, John Van Bu- ren, and Loomis, took part, Mr. Kuve said he deemed the mode of communica- tion between the conventions entirely unimportant. He proposed to meet the ition from the other convention by the appointment of a committee of one from each judicial district, who shall apprise the com- mittee of the other convention that they are prepared to receive any communication which may make; and that the committee to be appointed by us be ad- vised that they have no power to originate or to accept apy proposition made by the other convention or their committees. A number of modes of communicating with the other convention were Suggested, ‘and a long debate ensued, Mr. Kine offered the following resolution Resolved, That the committee thus appointed have no power to vary or originate any proposition commu- nicated to or through them from either eonvention, and that they be now instructed to receive any © munication which the committee of the other conv: tion may offer, and that they communicate the same to this convention. ‘The resolution was agreed to. Mr. Jonn Vax Buwen submitted that this convention should immediately communicate to the other, through our President, the resolution which we had just (above inserted) This cousre would enable vention, now in sersion at the Presbyterian Chureh, in Buren offered the following substitute :- Resolved, That the committee have full authority to negotiate in regard to all matte principles, and to report sea sree to this coavention. r this eveo- EVENING SESSION. pute was es the convention adjourned till § o'clock Rome, August 15, 1849, The convention re-assembled in the Baptist Church thie Kens, Od 8 o'clock ha +g en —e — spectators; proceedings y have been listea- and from abroad. wi about 1000 strangers now in the city, attending the conventions. These bodies, it will be recollected, are entirely distinct in their action, and they assemble in different places. At 8 o'clock the President called the convention to order. Mr Casn, of Orange, said he was instructed to pre- sent several resolutions, lately adopted at a meeting of | the free soil democrats of one of the Assembly districts | in the county of Orange. ‘Thomas Jefferson. and afterwards introduced into the Syracuse Convention, in 1847, by David D. Field, Esq. New York. There was a loud call for Judge Nye, of Madison. Mr. N. tried hard to get out of the difficulty, but the convention insisted upon hearing him. He will be re- membered by you, asa man familar with the graces of elocution, and as intusing into his speeches a fund of irresistibie humor. He was always considered a good advocate, but in the political arena, where he has s0 re- cently appeared, he bax had abundant opportunities te distinguish himaelf, Like a prudent man, he has not omg opportunities slip, but he has availed himself of them. Mr. N., in reply to the loud ealla of the convention, said he had heard it remarked, thet men were divided into three classes—first, the ‘advocates of datknuss ; second, a class so high, standing upon a pinnacle so elevated, that those in the gorges and ravines below, warmest sympathies, and which mi, reckon on as atl one of ber most sincere followers. view, belong to the other organisation, with) imbom, iin his boyhood. it was his pride to. eo: u but now his relations with ti the unfortunate convention of 1847, (the Syracuse | Convention.) when the cardinal principle of the demo- cratic re voted down and laid a could net have been made to believe the question of slavery; and he appealed to Tie democrate of both organisations to say whether, when that principle was ro summarily disposed of by that convention, they were not nfounded a ashamed? Gentlemen of the other (hunker) organisa: tion, with few exceptions, would admit now, that they were opposed to the extension ef siavery over territo- ries now tree, As had been a few years since asserted, neers, the con: | bye venerabie and d od ‘Dopeceen’ 3 | - presentative of the | Sete old we te paptict Church, of the result Empire State in Congress, there was at the North but to their commit of the rey ‘of | One sentiment on this sul jeot; buts change had re. the committee of this convention be laid om the table, | CeBtly Oceurred; he (Mr. N.) could not say what had thereon be ded. oduced this change. But if it was the opinion of in- jividual members of the other organisation. that slave. | i s z A i < i i in favor of int lucing slavery into any of territories of the United States, there was a bh them as broad and deep as that hell and the bosom had pal in connexion with them, and he bad no alternative but them to last gasp. Mr. N then adverted to jtervention, as che d by a por- tion of our fellow citizens, inci ud! the venerable father Rit le (Mr_N. wap batptleed to bet this a Virginia, Als- other Southern they will merge all jueetion. The doctrine our own position was disunion was raised erely that the democratic party was ‘and the ditusion of liberty and appt: emanci , and the ‘ty am vie nas among maneiee, This Wea the hasieee when che bama, South Caroli issourt States have firmly resolved that other issuer in thie great ‘wouldn't do. A manly r due when the un Md South. et cre slambia Tete not questioned or Mepuced | kOverEmente of the civilized world were founded They eaineem duane | to be desirous of promoting the happiness of po omy The posses he human species; but. in most cases, they failed Mr. +A, my ‘te a = = be (gg hye i are territo manners imple democracy; but a baboon mignt Serene, Rehee ean She Dees) pacer ental te well tr to to Pred maoumeane A's tints ta gooater reeves ee eas would still show iteelf im itstrae character [n con. istence of slavery there. Mr. Gn having read these —o jonable policy; but he of the convention his clusion, Mr. N. said it was now» battiv the world over, between freedom and slavery He described inost elo- quently the struggle between despotism and liberty which had recently occurred under the walis of Rome and in ether of Europe Hecompared the struggle the straggle going on here — both parties. th. different still arrived at the sa ie. N. concluded with every consistently with honor, to ensure the party. He was followed by ghany, who spoke an hour and The convention adjsurned wii business of interest. MORNING SESSION—SEGOND DAY. Rowe, August 16, 1849 The freesoilers resumed their session at nine this morning, but nothing; was done but to call the roll, and ut transacting any a recess was taken till the committee made a report. They will 0 again at two o'clock this afternoon, when some funny speeches and resolutions are expect. ed to be presented for the considerntion of the members of this convention, AFTERNOON SESSION—SECOND DAY. Rome, Aug 16, 1849. ‘The convention re-assembled at 3 o'clock P. M., and was called to order by the President. Mr. Preston Kine appeared, and stated on behalf of the Committee of Conference aes by thisgcon- vention to confer with the committee representing t! other convention, that he, with his colleagues, had met the other committee at the Academy in this village; that several propositions in writing had passed between the two committees upon the subject of union. Mr. King then proceeded to read the various propositions in writing. which had been made by the committees to each other. Mr. King having concluded tho reading of the cor- respondence between the committees, Mr. Loonus, of Herkimer, said he held in his hand a tion, which he offered as an individual mem- convention, and not as a member of the of Conference; he was, however, happy to say that the members of that committee entirely con- curred in the propositions set forth in the communica- | He moved that it be transmitted to the other | tion. convention as a proposition emanating from this con vention, and directed to that body. Mr. L. then sub- mitted ‘the following resolution, with the communica- tion appended to it. Resolved, That the committee appointed to negotiate with a committee of the other convention, be instructed to deliver to that committee, with a request to present the same to the Seay it represents, the following com- munication from this convention : The democratic convention assembled at the Baptist chureh in this village, unwilling to dissolve without further effort to effect the object for which they were delegated, respectfully submit to the democratic cone vention assembled at the Presbyterian church, the fol- lowing suggestions and invitation : Satisfied that the resolutions mageenge A adopted and eommunicated by this convention to your body are sound and democratic in prineiple--coniidentthat they are the sentiments of a vast majority of the people of this State. and especially of the democratic party—re- garding their public avowal by the representatives of the democratic party of this State, at this time. as essential to the best interests of the country—and be- lteving that the election of democratic candidates to the @tate offices cannot be secured. even upon a united action of these two paren, without a distinct a nouncement of the principles of these resolutions—this convention feels constrained to insist upon them as frank expression of the views entertained by body of the democratic party of this State. It this expression as alike ‘to the party in this to ther men Southern States—and to be no conceal it of the real sentiments of the people on the subject. While they are thus tenacious on this point, they are free to say, that they propose it as nd test of any man’s individual democracy, or of his right to member- ship and ascociation with the party. Each individual may, and of necessity must itertain such opinions as his judgment dictates. Perfect freedom of individual opinion constitutes the very basis of democracy; and this convention, while it Teel it aduty to express these principles im accordance with those of the party it presents, does not take upon itself to deny any man’s right to association with the democratic party for & difference in opinion upon this or any other point. Fach individual must judge for himself with which of the two great political parties his convietions lead bim to associate. Having formed his attachment, he is bound in good faith te carry out its measures so far as they may be entrusted to his action, though entirely free to hold his own opinions. and by propagating them to endeavor to direct the action of his party to the ac- complishment of his favorite measures. ‘When @can- didate for a public office, the political opinions of every individual peep es ood subjects of nd he ean hardly hope ‘success whose views are not in conformity with those of the majority of the party from whom he ee support. Un this explanation of the position held by this convention, it mow tenders to the other cenvention an invita- tion to assemble together in one common conven- tion, adopting this distinct expression upon the sub- ject of slavery, and leaving all other subjects upon which they apprebend no reement, to the action of the united convention, " tion will be pre- pared, in their joint action with those of the other, t make the mest liberal concessions upon any other mat ters of detail in the business which may occupy t attention of the united convention, and to unite with them in cordial harmony in the support of democratic men and measures, without regard to the past. This communication was received with tremendous on. It having been read, 1. Loonus proceeded to deny that this convention inaisted upon the proviso as a test of democracy; they did no such thing ; he thought it the right of avy member of the democratic party to differ with him m the question of slavery. It had often been his une to differ with his democratic friends upon certain questions of public potter: bat suspicions fn relation to the sincerity of his political opinions had never been entertained. Mr. Loomis spoke calmly and forcibly; his speech was entirely original in its bear- ing. Ft war one of the most logical and conclusive arguments that lever heard He ridiculed the ides that it was inexpedient to express our opinion upon any subject of interest to the country; he believed that no fears of disunion should deter us from agitat- ing any question, or from expressing our opinion upon its merits. He was not aware of the time when any party in the South had, in adopting ® political plat- form. consuited the feelings and wishes of the North, Mr Trerce seconded the motion just offered by Mr. Loomis, Mr. also supported thi motion, 1m some remarks, evincing considerable wisdom and modera- on Mr. Vaw Boren anid he agreed entirely wil munication just introduced by Mr that gentleman p: Loomis, jage. He (Mr. V. B) had not attempted to influ the action of the committee of conference in aay n ner, nor had he ever seen this communication until it was introduced here by Mr. Loomis His oo: in the several propositions contatned in the o cation was Ls nape voto without bias or prejudice, and with entire cordiality, In reply to the ions which bad been made by the other organiza that the free soll party insisted upon the application of the Wilmot proviso principle, as a political test, Mr V: Buren said, to declare a principle, and to ma! litical test, you must declare t! you will » man for any office who does not appr: ple so declared. We had never mad: tion of the principle of anti slavery ly dirclaimed the tion of subjecting any democrat toruch atest. But when the elvetion was approachi last fall, the States of Georgia. Carolioa, Al irmed their constitu- into California and gone no Thus they made itionl text; they wi guilty fame illiberality which they th the North have charged u part tent of democracy ; we cheerfully 01 of the members of the democratic pa: to differ in ‘ir opinions upon all questions whate there was, therefore, no truth in the assertion that je the proviso test. The candidate (Cass) who t by the South, for who had never made aay the Southern delegation to the tion, who dared to Introd test of democracy in that body the total rout of their eandidate in the Gestion of an individual who.so far as we are iaformed, never bad any opinions on political subjects. He (Mr. V. B.) bad had occasion to say in other places, that the national democratic party was dissolved; and he again, that while the resolutions of the TY & political tost. were unrapeal- , their declaration, that they would. under no political necessity whatever. support any man for say ofee who did not acknowledge thelr constitutional right to colonize free territories of the United States with slaves; while that deciaration remained on record, the party would remain dissolved and dis. united. unless the free States of the North receded from their in favor of freedom, and suecamb- ed to the — test extabliched by the South (Cheers) Ifhe (Mr. V. B) did dot mistake the organ of the late administration, (the Unron,) it had declared that the national democratic party was dissolved; and was I (nal Mr. VB») to blame, sir—s boy like me— if | took my slate to go home when the old school marm (Ritchie) told us we were dismissed! (Roare ft i * iter. Mr. Van Buren then proeseded to prove was the duty, as well as the right the North, to assume an independent stand toward tu: South upon this question; such fan attitude was con. tistent with the dignity aud the Importance of th pire State, as a rovereign State of this confederacy If the demoeratic party of the North ever united upon ald speech which is oon. tand powerful | ) } e i grace of action | which | have never seen on aay former ccontion. He is ‘rut ful — wonderfully ifted. Itis impossible to give an idea of the effect of jis speech; the seemed to be more in raj tures with him than Suffice it to any that his epeech at Rome, thi remarkably short, will be ranked among hia proudest efforts, | The com waleation Presented by Mr. Loomis was adopted, transmitted to the other convention We bave just learned, that und hoe of their committee, it waa rejected by that body. So the de- mocraey Will have no unfon, after all, ith the com. | Romn, August 16, 1849. Nine o'clock, Thursday Morning. Second Day of the Barnburner and Hunker Conven- tions—The Two Committees on “ Negotiation””—Ex- Governor Marcy and the Reporters—Arrivals of Whigs) Hunkers and Barnburners. ‘When ex-Governor Marcy was conducted to the chair, yasterday afternoon, by Gen. Ward and Chan- cellor Walworth, he arose and delivered to the con- vention one of his short and singular speeches, which did not appear to create much, if any, enthusiastic applause. After he had brought his remarks toa olose he left the chair, and visited the reporters, and request- ed them to give his speech a “favorable appearance,” when in publio print, and not to take it verbatim, as he was entirely unaceustomed to public speaking ‘The ex-Governor appears strongly in favor of union and his advice is to unite immediately, and at once proceed fto nomimate a State ticket. | “By the way, I have just thought of mentioning where | ex-Governor Marcy has taken up his quarters during the conventions, He has taken apartments at the beautiful residence of John Stryker, who is one of the | ex-Governor’s intimate and particular friends. It will be seen by the reports tranamitted yesterday tothe Herald, that each convention has appointed & | committee of eight of the delegates from different dis- | tricts, who have the full power of conferring together for the purpose of negotiating a union upon some prin- ciple or other; therefore, the reports of these commit- | fees are looked upon with great anxiety by all classes of politicians that are here. ‘here has nothing been done this morning by either | convention of any impertance, as no business can be proceeded with till # report is receivsd from the com- | mittees, who have been in secret session from 8 o’elock till the present hour, which is about 1 o’clock. The fol- | lowing is an account of the sessions, rumors, &e. Ko, For quite a length of time this morning, there was an assemblage of about one hundred old hunkers, all in squads around the Presbyterian Chureh, awaiting the hour of 9 to arrive. when the church doors would be thrown open. Rumors of various kinds in relation to the result of the two conventions, were afloat this morn- ing among the hunker portion of the immense gather- ing at this village ; one rumor was freely circulated, that the demoeratio party ls dissolved, aad no union will beeffected. Another was, a dissatisfaetion prevails among portions of both factions—because ex Governor Marey was made President of the hunker conven- tion! Another rumor says: If the leaders of these two factions do not unite, the outsiders will at once call mass convention, and nominate a State ticket, which willend in a general row among both sides. ‘These rumors have been the leading conversation among the members since 9 o'clock, at which time they | Fesumed their svats in the church; and since then, the convention bas remained in silence, there being no bu- siness to be done till @ report of the committec has | been recetved, to see what action bas been taken upon the subject of negotiation. At this time the hour of ten arrived, whereupon, Mr Daniel E. Sickles, of New York. arose and moved that the convention take a re- cess till ten minutes after the ringing of the bell. He said that in all probability the committee would be in session two hours longer, and as the convention had deen in session ab hour, and there being no bu- | siness to proceed with, he thought it advisable to take recess, and finelly, Mr. Sickles’ motion was put ‘and carries During the interval between the recess and the re- port of the committees on “ negotiation,” the members of both conventions were promenad! the beautiful grounds around the churches, court ho and acade- my. Atone point might be seen « trio, composed of a barnburner, a hunker, and a leading whig, promenading, arm and arm, conversing about the result of this sin: guler and interesting era in the annals of political his- tory! A short distance off could be witnessed a batch of hunker and barnburner delegates, busily engaged in discussing the prospects of the demooratic party, in case the * wedding” of the two factions takes place! body of whigs, freesoilers and hunkers arri morning from different parts of the State, who all appear anxious to hear the result of the pro- ceedings of these conventions. The whigs appear to feel as much interest in the result as their opponents do. It is now about one o'clock, and quite a number of tbe delegates came into the chureb and resumed their the president arose and enid ; [have just received eatisfactory informa- ominitive will not be ready to give a re- port till two o'clock, and as there is no business before the convention, | therefore will adjourn it till half past two. and will not call it together till that time. ‘This announcement caured a scattering among all in the church, and they immediately proceeded to the hotels, to partake of a Rome dinner, which is rushed for long before the bell ring 1 understand the hun re preparing some stron, resolutious to be introduced this aftermeon, which wil probably knock the union into @ cocked hat, as they are expected to be of such a character that the barn- Dburuers will donownce them at once. BY TELEGRAPH, HUNKER CONVENTION, Romy, Aug, 16—P, M. LAST EVENING SESSION. ‘The session organized last evening at Ts; o'clock. Mr. Stierueno moved that a committee of one from each judicial district be appointed by the chair, to re. port the address and resolutions; which was carried it was also meved that the President be added to the committee; carried. ‘The following gentlemen constitute the committee: — Ist District. B. Shepherd, of New York. 24 District—Charles Ganun, of Putnam, 3d District—A. B. Niven, of Sullivan 4th District—John G. Flanders, of Putnam, 5th District— Wm. Porter. Jr , of Onondaga. 6th District Samuel G. Hathaway, of Chem 7th District—Thomas M. Howell, of Ontario. 8th District—Thomas A, Osborne, of Chautauque Mr, Bunnows offered a resolution, prefaood by a few remarks, that we are opposed to the introduction of slavery into territories in the United States, now free, and we will use all constitutional means to prevent its extension. Mr Cuatrieto moved to add, that as there could be THE no diversity of opinion among the democratic party in | regard to this matter, it should not be madea party test. After a few remarks from Messrs. Bowne, Beardsley, and others, both were withdrawn for the time being. Messrs. Cutting, Sickles, and others, were called out, | ‘and apologized for not addressing the convention. A communication was here received from the Free Soll Convention, as follows: — ed, We cannot scoopt the proposition of the ‘resbyterian church, to unite Both of these resolutions were laid on the table. A motion was here made sod carried, that the con ference committee be discharged from the further con-_ sideration of the subject. It was also moved and carried that this convention thank the committee for the able manner in which they have discharged their duties; also the President and other officers, and the trustees of the church. A motion was now made that the convention adjourn sine die, which was lost by ayes 41, nays 47 It was then moved to reconsider, which was carried, and the original motion was then withdrawn An adjournment then took place until eight o'clock to-morrow morning SECOND DESPATCH Rome, August 17—11 A. M. The Convention was called to order at hal 8 o'clock. Mr. Cratrietn offered a resolution, which, in sub- stance, oppored the introduction of slavery into terri- tories now free, but that they do not regard the slavery question as a party test Resolved, That the power vested in Congress in re gard to this subject, le '& controverted quest ong, ¢ demoorats, and we will leave every man tot Joyment of his own opinion upon the subject ‘The resolution was advocated by Messrs. Dayton, Smith, Bowne, Ward, and others, and opposed by Merers Walworth, Lockwood, and Beardsley, when it pally carried, amidst mueh applause. A motion was made in favor of transmitting to the free soil convention «® copy of the resolution, with « request for the adoption of the same, with « view of effecting s union. After being opposed by Mr. Sickels, it was carried unanimously. The convention then tcok # recess. THIRD DESPATC! Rome, August 17—2P. M. The Convention came to order at 1 o'clook The Sroreranr read « com: jeation from the Pre- sident of the Free Soil Convention, transmitti eories nee as follows We do eof the recent resolutions adopted by the bunkers. to far as expressed In opposition to the extension of slavery; but we not adopt them ara free expression of opinion on thet subjeot Saticded that there is euch an agreement in favor of the prine! les of human freedom as demands the re-anion of the agp ES New York, it is proj to unite in one body, making « single organization through the State, and recommending the support ef the single Btate tieket for election, and transact such other busi ees as may come before them On motion of Mr. Currive, it was Resolved, That, this convention decline concurring im there resolutions, and that tho President cate this to the free soilers, and eee a ee. will adjourn sine die, unless they will make farther communication, A recess was here taken, FOURTH DESPATCH. Rome, August 17—4 P. M. On re-assembling at 3 o'clock, there being no special business before the convention, and a rumor be! circulation that the free soilers woul cesmmunication to make, a recess was taken until the ringing of the bell. FIFTH DESPATCH. Rome, August 17—5 P. M, " The convention came to order, and at half-past four received a message from the free soilers, stating that they bad no further communication to make. Mr. Currine moved some important resolutions which were carried, after which speeches were made by ‘Messrs. Cutting, Bowne, Chatfield, and Peckham, when it was moved, and carried unanimously, that the convention adjourn, sine die, Six cheers were here given for Marcy, and three for the democratic party. The greatest enthusiasm and unanimity of fooling characterized the closing scenes of the convention. TNE BARNBURNER CONVENTION. LAST EVENING’S SESSION. Rome, August 16—P, M. The convention met at 7 P.M. Mr. Brcxwitn offered a resolution, to the effect, that we cannot accept the proposition of the committee of the convention assembled at the Presbyteriam chureh, to unite upon the grounds which they propose to recom- mend their convention, viz; that Congress has no power in the State where slavery exists ; that Congress has power over slavery in the District of Columbia ; that we believe the people of the North are opposed to its introduction into territories now free ; but we will nos make it a party test, or add it to our political platform. The resolution was debated and carried unanimously, After which the convention adjourned until 8 o’clook, Friday morning. SECOND DESPATCH. Rome, August 17, 1849. ‘The barburners assembled this morning at 8 o'clock. After the adoption of such a portion of the hunker resolutions as are hestile to the extension of slavery, they transmitted a message requesting the hunkers to meet with them and nominate a State ticket. A communication was received from the hunkerss stating that they had no further business to communi- cate. In consequence of the above, the barnburners now con- sider themselves severed from the hunkers forever. THE LAST DESPATCH. Rome, August 17—P. M. ‘The Barnburner Convention has adjourned, sine die, ‘The leaders of the party are to meet this evening for the purpose of making a contribution of $250 to pay for printing. Each faction now treats the other with contempt. A large number of the delegates will leave for home at 9 o'clock, this evening Theat@oal and Musieal, Broapway Tuxarne.—This house presented a bril- lant array of the beauty and fashion of the olty, lass evening. The play was“ Ernani,” the respective parts of which we have already criticised, except the change in the character of Ernani, which was well sustained by Signor Vietti, who has been engaged, in consequence of the sickness of Signor Corelli, The ballet diver. tisement aa performed by the Monplaisir troupe. ga the utmost satisfaction. and was marked throu, by the eheers of delighted rich treat is presented to the lovers of barmony, telection of pular and excellent opera, called “ Sonnamb: nteresting character of Amina will be personated by Signora Vita Caranti. an artist of great vooal celebrity; b. and Conte ove Between grand pas, the “Goblin of by Mme and M. M opera, they will dance a new “Cachucha.”” The enter- prising manager, perceiving that opera and the same evening, will succeed, has engaged Blangy, who will make her first appearance, since her return from Euro} jonday evening next, ia a new ballet entitled * She will be assisted by the celebrated dancer M. Durand. Marshall is de- termined that he will not be surpassed in the attrae- tive features of his theatre, and consequently deserves public patronage, Ninto’s Ganven.—The entertainments at this thee- tre last evening were received with unmixed gratifice- tion by a crowded and highly respectable audience. ‘The Ravel Family were, as usual, great im their way, and most enthusiastically applauded. It appears to us that the very flattering marks of approbation which are invariably bestowed upon their wonderful and grace ful achievements, tend to the produ that they had not tried before We all ki ju Disable Amoreux,’’ foil de trois waltz, by Mr. Henry Wells, Adele Celeste, was very gracefully executed; and, the whole from ing to ead, was well calculated to gratify all who witnessed it. It wasa very liberal quid pro quo, or, in other words, a very handsome return forthe sum paid The performances in the orchestra were, as they always are, first rate. furnished another jan upon which this theatre true e breeze came rushing in during the whole time the house was cool, comfortable, and refi . ‘The proprietor was to be seen supervising, direoting, d keeping everything square, by his presence. Benton's Testa. —‘Dombey & Son” were on hand again last evening, and ax welcome as ever to thecrowa of customers that a ‘trived adaptation ef it for the contains all the preminent i# most skilfully bli artists in this pivee — happily con ada, ptation story, and the wh seting of the vari cee ere to bly tel wom stage. The poiuts of the for the the applause was very with that rame excellence whie guished her performance of it reat. of | “Buy it Dear,” « laughable affair enough, concluded the entertainments The burlesqaes on the musie from “La Bayadere,” are well managed To-night, Miss Mary Tayler sets her name up for a benedt — There will be a full house, we ate sure. ir very funny farces will be played, an will be seem on reference | to our list of amusements Naviowa, Trearne,—The great variety of entertain. ments given at this house every evening. bas caused it to be well patronized throughout the week; indeed, «@ wide «pread is the popularity of the National new, that strangers, on visiting our city, make it one of their visiting places among our places of public amusement. Mr. Riee bas been playin ‘ith hie | usual success; his negro 4 ique and racy, that it is not astonishing that he never had any Competitor who eould equal him in his pecalive line His burlerque oy jone Sqaash Diable’’ is one of the most laughable things we have ever seen; and with ©. White as Pompey Duckiegs, aud fT B. Jobnstum as the Vankee Devil, it invariably elicits a vast desl of fun avd merriment. We perceive that to-night this burlesque will be repeated. also will be played another cert from White's Serenaders, “Lottery Ticket.” {tis the night of the appearance of Mr. Jobnston, as also of White's Serenaders) We perceive that the comie ntomime of “ Jooko, the Brazilian Ape” is in re~ eassal for Monday ev: Crmrety's Misetnets #7 give their last comeert for this jag discontinuing their usiqae entertaipments for week During the interval, dergo & perfeot the Mechanies’ Hall will renovation t intl ating, ko. and the of ene Catuter the Sompistion of which will render their headquarters one of the most jaces of resort in this evening is one of t New Onteawe Seeevapens —Theae colebrated minstrels are performing at Newport, R. 1, muceres Castes Ganprs ~ The usual capereatpmnonte of con- Banvey Wirtrama, the beat comedian, in his peoatiar style of acting in thix country, ed in town Inst evening afer an absence of three months in the Waat, where he bas been Giling the treasury of the theatres as well as bis own pockets.