New Britain Herald Newspaper, December 9, 1915, Page 8

R ince and His Basketball Five Meeting Success--Frat Organizations at Yale Receive Joli--Hollenback 2 Wins Out in Penn Election--Bowling Results in Several Leagues BT VANCEET AL ING FAST PACE High School tar Has Col- Clever Team of Players y" Vance of Hast Berlin, the igh school basketball player jaround athlete, who last year ith the Troy, N. Y. team of W York State league, the champions, is setting the fol- bt basketball wild, by his stel- with the Augusta, Me., team. left here two months ago to team of his own with the in- of léaving early In the winter p-across the country, which inate in California, meeting teams along. the route of count in an 'Augusta news- f the opening game gives an the work of Vance and his es as follows: basketball season in Augusta bned Wednesday evening at il with the fastest game that itol city has ever witnessed, in he Augusta quintet took the ce Military Athletic associa- m Into camp by the score of The game was preceded by | fnary game in_ which the | vere made up of local players, | [ntet known as the French de- ! Glermans by the score of | DE b wy ! i Vanck formerly of the Troy, teamf wor'4's champlions, was star of +~ main game. He a lot of snise and his work ting nine goals from the floor revelation to all present. ' Cheago, Dec. numerous and McCarthy of the Augusta ! |atest to announce his intention who are undoubtedly two of | t players in New England, a strong game. McCarthy 9—With the big boom in the wrestling world now on hand in this country grapplers have planned to visit Amer- | : ica in search of fame and money. The e Finn was oals fro 1so d as sta had the better of of the local se. the bar- om the very beginning of the years ago Mahmout was reported kill- 0t a total of | €d, and nothing was heard of him until recently. The giant Bulgarian is ue to arrive here around the first of the year unless the Bulgarian war department interferes. Mahmout was considered the cleverest foreign wrestler that ever visited these Yusuf J‘Iahmot’t, the Great Bulgarian Wrestler, Coming To U.S. to Tackle Our Best, foreign of coming here is Yusuf Mahmout, the great Bulgarian mat artist. A fow here he will make a short tour of state and then will meet Stecher, the sensational Dodge (Neb) grappler. Upper photo shows Mahmout execut- ARMOUR’S BOWLERS Packers Beat Baggage Twice—Buckle Shop FiveyHas Easy Time, | Mercantile league took two the Aetna alleys last evening. tain Hornkohl of the victors featured. i T'he scores: Armours, | Rerry Abbott Wacker Dix Hornkohl 8 9 253 90 80 89 85 93 101 416 445 Freight Office. 96 15 . 87 72 Y 81 93 83 T4 80 421 391 87— 16— 73— 88— 100— 25 22 423—1284 Shea ..... Keleher Marey ........ Neurath Dummy ....... 66— 89— T— 86— 262 237 FACTORY LEAGUE./ games to their list, when feated the V. I. W. five last evening. The séores: North & Judd. 86 81 88 95 97 419 442 Vulcan Iron. 80 81 75 77 85 398 87— £l 99— 13— 97— 436—1297 257 Robertson Whiteley Moran . Hogan s 83 244 Demarest . | Staffora .. Warner .... Gustafson .. Kilduft 78— 77— 1MT— 91— 74— . T4 91 397 NUT LEAGUE. A new bunch of glleys, responding to the ! plume of members of the Nut League. CONTINUE TO WIN Smashers The Veribest bowlers, leaders in the | games from the freight office employes at Cap- 250 294 Where stark the frozen grasses lean? | 73—227 The Buckle Shop added three more they de- 257 262 277 228 238 234 397—1192 higher order than Yale's was. | embryo bowlers have made their appearance on the nom de By Way of Chiding. | w that the golfing season is all | ."—Exchange, You think the golfing season done Because a cloud has crossed the sun Where lately yellow gold was spun? Because the winds and snowg careen Or drift above the ancient green Tut-tut—and piffle; likewise ‘‘pooh,” I'm very much surprised that you Should even hint the season’s through; 5 ;;g ‘What though the clubg stick in the bag, How can the golfing season lag As long as frenzied tongues can wag? 391—1203 As long as one can find a guy To listen to the How and Why, Or give heed to an alibi? So please absorb this old dear, Ase long as you can find an Ear, The golfing season’s always here. thought, Judging from the written opinion expressed by any number of graduates, George Foster Sanford is running one-two-three for Eli’'s next instructor. Not a protest against G. Toster has been registered. It has bcen 100 per cent. boost. Rutgers’ due roughness, was of a good bil And | Sanford was at Rutgers—not at Yale. | The Case of W. Johnson. Vety little was heard about Walter Johnson last season. He was sup- posed to be sliding and a long way e. PORT )y Grantland Rice | dertook to help Kkill an afternoon on Yale | As for Sanford teaching rough foot- | 242 ball, we'll say this: 260 against Princeton, in the lack of un- play | LIGHT achieved 203 whifts. The difference isn't great enough to be noted—ex- cept that Johnson was cownsidered a world beater in 1913 and only a fair pitcher in 1915, The Start and the Finish. As we recall the frosted detalls, Herb Pennock started the season for the Mackmen by holding the cham- { pion Red Sox to one flabby hit. Which shows exactly how much a start is worth over the long route. ! | For Mr. Pennock finished, in effective- ness, sixty-sixth among sixty-six pitchers, allowing 6.37 tallies to each gome. Another Mystery Exploded. Those yearning to know why the Mackmen finished last by so wide a margin can be easily accommodated. In the way of pitching effectiveness, | af the eight worst pitchers in base- ball Mr. Mack's team claimed only six. They were Bush, Sheehan, Bress- ler, Crowell, Nabors and Pennock. The best regular on Mack's club was Wyckoff, and he allowed nearly four earned tallies each time he un- the mound. | Average Pitching. ‘ The records show that a pitcher ll-‘ lowing a trifle under three earned runs per game is doing average work. Only two earned tallies is first class stuff and over three is verging toward the bush. Vernon Castle saw a brace of box- ing matches and decided to go to war. ' He was too badly discouraged to con. tinue dancing after observing how many laps he was behind the regular FRAT. SOCIETIES GET HARD BLOW Change in Athletic Elections Will Restrain Secret Organizations New Haven, Dec. 9.—The fraternity system at Yale received a hard blow last night when the undergraduate body at a meeting in Wooltey decided to hold the elections of the second * assistant managers of crew, track and baseball the last week in December instead of the first week in April, aa has been the custom for years. To those familiar with the system at Yale the change appears to hold little significance, but it is really a thrust against the fraternity domin- ation of the athletic situation. This evil has been one well realized by the majority of Yale men who have al- ways held that Yale stood wupon @ platform of democracy. In fact, this spirit has become in college circles synonymous with Yale. The undergraduates by the vote this evening have placed themselves on record as being opposed to all frater« { nity politics when Yale's athletic wel~ fare is made the object of the prac- tice. It has been realized that the evil was a menace and the fallure during the past football season has no doubt crystalized action against the custony of past years. Under the old system the assistant managers of crew, basket ball and track teams, who in their senior year are the managers of the respective teams, have been elected in April." The fraternities take in the freshmen in February, and there has always been the struggle of the fraternities in attempting to secure the men who have been elected to managerial po- sitions. This has led to a combining of effort with the result that the entire talent, | The Duffers. | sata Willle Hoppe to Tyrus Cobb, “How good are you at the baseball | Job 7" ! Sald Ty to Willie—a trifle blue— system was permeated with secret soclety politics. It is belleved the new system will largely do away with the difficulty. The amendments to the constitu- tion of the athletic assoclation were adopted unanimously. There was no outlining of the situation by speeches- he score at the end of the first - from his old form. No one spent any | three periods being 14 to 4 in ing an inside ar; ‘ ” shores. Immediately after his arrival | ling partner. throw on his wrest- | Here is their accomplishments: time etching out the laurel to wreathe | *NO better than you are with the cue.” | The ballots were cast shortly after the br. In the next'period the local proved its supériority by get- total of eight goals from the | d holding the visiting team o one basket. It was in the | briod that the Lawrence boys | [l up the strongest and suc ceeded ing six goals and & point on a Augusta netter 18 . points eriod. - in | h and Waite were the stars for awrence team; Wwhile ‘Wilson a good game at right forward. who stands and welghs 190 pounds, t managder of 'the t. pssed up the first ball. feet and three is the Lawrence jor Blaine . Viles was present The game lean throughout and needless to | present were pleased to learn Mr. Vance has another game In for next Wednesddy evening at all.' The summary: ta. 3 .t e Vb, -Smith, 1£ . rh, c, e rf, Lawrence Mclntosh Jacobs Walte Smith ‘Wilson Lawrence 21; from floor, Vance 9, Finn 7, 3, Smith '3, Stuart 2, Waite 3, 3, Wilson 2, Jacobs 1, MeclIn- 1; goals from fouls, Lawrence 1; ee, Currier; scorer, Lathe; 15-minute ling; three time, timer, O FORM BOXING CLASS. feature of the winter season at| g octeq they could take Y. M. T. A. & B, society gymna- h will bé a boxing tournament h is open to all members, The en- ts will be divided into four classes, llows: bantam weight, under 116 | gollenback legion, which is composed ds; nds; nd 133 pounds. featherweight.- lightweight, unde: other in matches in ach other in matches lium and heavyweight bouts will be of four h and will be properly refereed appointment of John M. Dohan Members desiring to en- ; Philadelphia gs assistant manager of | timed. under medium and heavyweight, 122 138 T first classes. rounds HOLLENBACK FORCES WIN ELECTION FIGHT “Big Bill” With Ted Meredith and Matthews, Are Declared Eligible For Board of Directors. Philadelphia, Dec, 9.—It leaked out yesterday that the two factions fight- ing for control of the board of diree- tors at Pensylvania clashed Tuesday night just before the close of one of the longest meetings the board has has ever held. The clash came when one of the members déclared that Bill Hollenback, Ted Meredith and Neil Matthews, captain of next year's foot- ball team, were not eligible as candi- dates for the board at its coming elec- tions. The assertion was based on the fact that the by-laws of .the associa- tion state that no one is eligible for the board unless he has been a mem- ber of the association for one month prior to the elections and also that nominations for the board must bec made a month before the elections. It was asserted that Hollenback has been a member for only about three weeks and that none of the three men had their nominations in on | time. However, after a heated argu- | met, Presidentt Geylin ruled that if their places on the board. The two factions are the old guard led by Wharton Sinkler, chairman of the present football committee, and | of the younger generation. No pre- | vious election of the board 'has ever ! caused so much excitement about the The contestants university and undoubtedly every pos- weight within three pounds of sible vote will Le cast. the pe classes and within five pounds sults of the elections will not be in the nounced until December 13. Among the other business that the ! Balloting will close at noon on Saturday, but the re- an- board closed up Tuesday night was the should notify John Claughessy, W. | the varsity “P” to twenty-one football erin or D. J. Dougherty. ONS ILL, BOUT POSTPONED. pt. Paul. Minn., Dec. 8.—Postpone- Int for at least a week of the Mike pbons-Young Ahearn ten-round htest, originally scheduled to take ce here Dec. 10, was the illness of Gibbons, catened with pneumonia. announced the promoters last night because who If Gib- 8 is able to yesume training next bnday the bout will take place Dec. 0 PLAY YALE AND HARVARD. [Charlottesville, Va., hia's football schedule for Dec. 9.—Vir- 1916, th Yale at New Haven, Oct 7, and ¢ with Harvard at Cambridge, Nov. lor 18. rolina, and other Southern jve places on the schedule. Now In Operation Vanderbilt, Georgia, North eleve SKEE FALL at the tna Bowling Alleys men. They were: Capt. Harris, Bell, | ning, Hopkins, Loucke, Matthews, | Miller, Murdock, Neill, Price, Quigley, quhart, Williams and Wray. HOGG TO LEAD PRINCETON. is | Tigers Elect Guard Captain of Foot- ball Team for 1916. Princeton, N, J, Dee. | eleven next year. Hogg is a junior, and comes from Pittsburg. | academy. experience on the ’varsity ular guard. a member of his class beat Yale. consistently good. He has not the best linesman on the eleven, of Clothier, Derr, Dunlap, Hawley, Hen- Russell, Rockafeller, Ross, Tighe, Ur- 9.—Frank Trevor Hogg has been elected by the preliminary will | football men who won their letter in | this season’s work (o lead the Tiger He pre- hde public tonight, includes a game | pareq for college at Phillips-Andover | “Kootch” Hogg has had two years’ football team, last year as substitute to Rip Shenk at guard, and this year as reg- Previous to his tryouts for a position on the 'varsity he was team, and played on the freshman eleven that Hogg's playing this year has been only earned his position as the best guard on the squad, but has been ranked as YALE MEN WANTV JONES FOR COACH Yale Undergraduates Favor the Selec- tion of Famous Quarterback as Coach For Eleven, New Haven, Dec. 9.—The under- graduate sentiment at Yale is grow- ing stronger every day in favor of the selection of Tad Jones as football coach at New Haven next fall. Jones' popularity is due to the fact that some ' of the members of the football squad played under Jones at Exeter academy and at Pawling School. If the new captain, “Cupid” Black, has his say { In the matter, it is belleved that Jones | will be the choice, as he played under i the former Yale quarter back at both Pawling and Exeter. Jones has had remarkable success i at Exeter and in each of the last three seasons that academy’s old-time rival, Andover, has been overwhelmingly de- feated. Jones is rated asone of Yale's best quarterbacks, but his coaching experience at New Haven has been brief. Beore the football coach is appoint- ed at New Haven, however, there may be a change in the athletic policy of that institution which would reduce the power of the football captain and also the influence of the undergrad- uate body. There is a growing feeling among Yale graduates that the policy of making the captain “king” does not work out to the best interests of the different teams. With the appoint- ment of a new graduate committee Vance, McCormick, Brink Thorne, t and John Kilpatrick, the suggested | policy of restricting the power of the football captain may be adopted. In that event it is not likely that Jones would be chosen head coach. There is a strong sentiment among the graduates in favor of an older man than Jones. Much interest cen- ters on Al Sharpe, not only because he has been successful with the Cor- nell eleven, but because Sharpe, in his day, was a wonderful athlete at Yale. SILKTOWN BOUTS TONIGHT. The Oxford A. C. has arranged for & big boxing tournament at the Ar- mory tonight. In Frankie Mack of Boston and Frankie ! Moore of Providence are scheduled to mix things for 15 rounds. “Joe"” Dil- worth and “Fighting Joe” Tierney of Elizabeth, N. J.,, will appear in the semi-final, a ten round go, and the be furnished by Young McClusky and Young Reimer, two local lads. at 8:30 o'clock. TO PLAY C. L. L. | The New Britain High School bas- ketball team will play the C. L. I team at the local gymnasium kriday evening and a good game is expected. There is great rivalry between thc athletic representatives of the schools in all branches of sport and there is never anything like tameness when they clash. There will be a prelim- inary game at 7:30 o'clock between the second team of the local school and the Thompsonville High School team. The big game will start at 8:30 o’clock. Dick Dillon of Hart- ford will referee. the main bout | The first bout begins | Hickory Nuts. 86 61 . 88 . 85 320 Butter Nuts, 78 Lookiss 86— 48— 81— 94— 2 308— 912 i . Rittner “Kia” Wright , O’Connell { Jurgen 80— 76— 85— 76— ‘ 359 321 316—996 ! Peanuts. Steege . 98 . Ritner ...... 79 Puppel . 85 Krause . 86 Peplan 8 80 85 75 72 92 l 424 414 Chestnuts. 72 71 83 73 73 78— 70— 82— 93— 94— 86— 96— 80— 70— 76— 73 70 69 88 C. Brennecke .. Barsey .... Jones Schraeger - 212 236 =——— —— —— T Says He Needs Two Years More 363 872 407—1142 BARACA LEAGUE. Another round in the league of the Baraca class bowling of evening and resulted as follows: Trinitys. 74 81 66 88— 81— 75— 86 76— 239 87 83— 258 394 383—1179 . worths. Iawyer .. 74 80 Stearns .. 48 58 Smith . 73 83 Scofield 62 656 A. Stotts . 75 105 Camp = 240 236 206 Mason ... H. Stotts L. Wilcox ... BUIT ..vonns E, Wilcox 79— 53— 68— 159 224 117 84— 264 81— 81 332 381 Athenians, 86 87 87 80 63 70 8365—1078 97— 270 84— 231 76— 209 88 96 76— 260 82 82 103—267 386 415 436—1237 ‘Wesleyans. . Morse ...... 94 82 M. Healey BIRTS) 68 L. Morse .. 65 75 R. Holcomb .... 63 75 Rich .... 60 70 H. Johnson . Hancock . Weston .. Walker .. . Thomas 91— 76— 69— 51— 189 67— 197 219 347 370 354—1071 BINGHAM FOR MARSHAL. Cambridge, Mass., Dec. 9.—William J. Bingham of Lawrence, captain of the track team, was elected first mar- shal of the Harvard senior class to- day defeating Edward W. Mahan of Natick, captain of the football team. The position is virtually that of senior president and is regarded as the highest distinction that the graduat- ing class can confer. Captain Mahan wag chosen second marshal and R. Norris Willlams, 2nd., of Philadelphia, captain of the tennis team third mar- shal, H. L. F. Kreger of Freeport, Me., coxswain of the varsity crew, was elected class treasurer. 252 | 222 252 270 254 284 In :g through 1915 moved up 264 417—1245 1 221 233 267 | 199 ¢ | around his mobile brow. “Slipping a 242 bit,” was the general verdict. 178 240 Then enters the proof. In 1913 and permitted only 1.09 runs to the hattle—that is, runs that werc carned from his pitching. In 1914 Jochson took part in fifty- one games and permitted 1.71 earned runs to the combat. These two sea- sons were supposed to be his best. But last season—or 1915—Johnson worked in forty-seven games and al- lcwed only 1.55 earned tallies to each combat. In 1815 he was not quite so 800d as he was too years ago, but a shade better than in his 1914 cam- raign. place of slumping, Johnson toward his Ereatest mark, In 1913, Johnson's best year, he lowed fifty-four earned runs in forty-seven games and struck out 243. This last season, in forty-seven games, ‘he allowed fifty-eight earned runs and SANFORD REVIEWS HIS WORK. to Finish Job at Rutgers. Foster Sanford reviewed his work at Rutgers in the last two seasons in a speech made at the Metropolitan the o)y b to a group of Rutgers men and Trinity M. E. church was played 1ast {,1q them that he needed at least two years more to finish the work that he | started. Whether Rutgers will get its two vears of finishing of course will depend upon the outcome of the campaign being made by Sanford's friends to obtain for him the post of head coach at Yale. Sanford didn’t discuss that matter at all last night, his only reference to the future being | the statement that he needed two ! years more to make the fame of Rut- gers secure. “Footbsall is method, not men,” said Sanford early in his address, and to prove it he told of his building up of the Rutgers team in the last two years. He said: “This demonstration of the high | | value of method is the more interest- { ing in that the team of 1915—that all ! the experts rate so high—is virtually the original material; eight of the team were in the field the day I got to Rutgers, and no one will, I think, say that Garrett, Rendall and Mason have as a whole any more than re- placed the loss of Toohey, Twing and | McCloskey.” | HORNING NEW COLGATE CAPT. Hamilton, Dec. 9.—Clarence E- Horning will lead the Colgate foot- | ball team during the 1916 football sea- son. He played tackle this season and has been a regular for three years. ARSON CASES DISMISSED. Grand Jury to Make New Investiga- tion at St. Louis. St. Louis, Mo., Dec, 9.—The cases against three alleged arson conspira- tors, called for trial Tuesday were dis- missed yesterday by the circuit attor- ney.- He said a new investigation would be taken up by the grand jury | Friday- The three men who were on trial | were Harold H. Gilmore, president of | the Gilmore-Bonfig Decorating com- pany whose establishment was burned | July 24; Harry Imel, secretary to Gilmore, and Julius R. Bersch, vice- ‘presldent of an insurance company. Jdohnson worked in forty-seven games | Universal Joint Co., Hartford. Johnny Evers says that golf ig fine | training for baseball. It may have been that Johnny meant this—playing six shots in a bunker is fine training | for what you'd like to say to an um- pire. Oftside Plays, As for preparedness, how often do you see them picking on a guy with a wallop buried in either fin? If you were bent upon tomething, would you pick starting out the who carried the box of chocolates? If Penn. hasg a chance to get Fol- well and Hollenback for coaches and passes up the chance, the Red and Rlue deserves an even lower ranking than she has drawn the last year or two. And what is more, she will prob- ably get it. Or would Penn. rather settle down for good among the Second Ten? g3y ——— e LIST OF PATENTS. List of patents issued from the U. 8. Patent Office, Tuesday. November 30, 1916, for the state of Connecticut, furnished us from the office of Sey- mour & Earle, solicitors of patents, 129 Church street, New Haven, Conn, E. H. Angle, New London. dontia apparatus. Same; Dental pliers. C. H. Case, Oneco. Paper dry- ing and finishing machine. H. B. Cooley, New Britain, as- signor to American Paper Goods Co. Drinking-cup. E. B. Crocker, assignor to Asheroft Mfg. Co., Bridgeport. vice for dampting pressure tions. B. M. DesJardins, West Hartford. Computing attachment for typewrit- ers. M. Cuett, assignor to The Hart & Hegeman Mfg Co., Hartford. Elec- tric snap-switch. T. C. Johnson, assignor to Winches- ter Repeating Arms Co., New Haven. Firearm. i ‘W. B. Lasher, Bridgeport, assignor to American Chain Co. Inec. Chain tire-grip. (2 patents). M. Lubas, Naugatuck. Ink-well. J. E. Matthews, assignor to Sargent & Company, New Haven. Flush bolt. R. F. Metcalf, New Haven. Burner E. Schoell, assignor to The Yale & Towne Mfg. Co., Stamford. Cylinder- lock. C. W. 8ponsel, assignor to The Ajax Ortho- The De- fluctua- Unt- | versal joint. T. J. Watts, Clothes-ironer. C. E. Woods. assignor to American Graphophone Co., Bridgeport. Gra- phophone. South Windham. SENT TO REFORMATORY. Hartford, Dec, 9.—James Hussher a Canadlan soldier who was in the campaign with the allies at the Dar- | danelles, was yesterday sent the Cheshire reformatory for a serious offense against a fifteen year old girl. | Hussher is twenty-two. He and the | girl, a granddaughter of the woman with whom he boarded in this city, went away together October 18. He | was arrested in Worcester, Mass. Heo pleaded guilty yesterday, to tellow who held the club or the one ' meeting opened, the undergraduates as a body realizing that it was for the common good that they were casting a vote in favor of the change. . ABERG DEFEATS CUTLER. American Champion Not Enough to ‘Withstand Big Wrestler, New York, Dec, 9.—In the feature | bout of the evening Alexander Aberg international champion, three Charles Cutler, American champion in 43. with a head In chancery and inside jroll. Aberg kept to his usual tactics of wearing down his opponent. After | thirty minutes had elapsed there was no doubt as to the ultimate winner. Cutler succeeded in getting Aberg's head in chancery many times in theé earlier periods of the bout and mussed up the champion's ears considerably. These are tender spots to Aberg and he voiced his disapproval of the rough treatment rather audibly. Even with this strong hold Cutler was unable to withstand the great strength of his opponent and he never coujd hold the champion's head for a longer period than twenty seconds. The superior condition of Aberg be- gan to show after thirty minutes of wrestling. Cutler was tired and per- spired freely while Aberg was as dry as a bone and going stronger every minute. In the fifth period Aberg brought the contest to an end by twisting the American over slowly with a chancery hold and pinning his shoulders to the mat. OPPOSES “ALL-AMERICANS. Haughton Would Select at Thirty For First Team. Boston, Mass., Dec. 9.—Percy Haughton, coach of the Harvard elev- en and the first to develop what has come to be known as the “system” in football, is opposed to the haphazard selection of All-American football teams. The custom, which has grown with the years, is now indulged in not only by those who have definite knowledge of the calibre of the mem, but by many who have only a slight knowledge of football. This, Haughton says, is unfair both the players and the public. his contention t well qualified that he eleven best men in the even in certain sections. In speaking of the last season Haughton gives unstinted praise to Watson, the Harvard quarterback who has been generally ignored in the picking of All-American teams. The first choice among most of those whe, made selections was Captain Barrest, of Cornell, but Haughton says that Watson stands without a peer this season. Glick of Princeton, says Haughton, is the greatest defensive halfback of the season. Least to It is N YOU CAN'T BLAME HIM. Heinle Groh, of the Reds, in a letter written to his cousin in Cincinnati, declares he will “never again wear a Cincinnati uniform as long as Charley Herzog is manager.” The letter not only tells of Groh's dissatisfaction with Herzog as a boss, but goes much further, declaring that all the players on the club feel that same dissatisfaction. “I won't play for a manager whe feels 50 much above me that he won't stop at the some hotel ith me,* Groh writes. “I'm through with Cine | cinnati unless Herzoz is put out.™