Grand Rapids Herald-Review Newspaper, November 8, 1902, Page 7

’ MERGER IN COURT ‘TESTIMONY OF COAL MEN AND LUMBER MANUFAC- TURERS. MR. WEYERHAUESER, LUMBERMAN THE COUNTRY RELIES UPON THE STATE OF WASHINGTON FOR LUMBER. G. B. HARRIS, RAILROAD PRESIDENT THE MERGER WILL PROMOTE BUSINESS AND DEVELOP LATENT RESOURCES. In the suit of the United States against the Northern Securities company Mr. Frederick Weyerhaueser_ was the first witness to follow Mr. Hill in the testi- mony taken in St. Paul. Mr. Weyerhaeuser is the largest manu- facturer of lumber in the United States. He testified as to the reliance of the coun. try upon the state of Washington for lum; This passage in his testimony is in- teresting. Q. Are you acquainted with the lumber supply in the Mississippi valley? A. es, sir; that is where I have been operating for forty years. 2 How about the amount of standing timber in the Mississippi valley, available for making lumber, compare with that in former years? A. It is getting very short; the supply is getting very short. Q. About how long do you think that you can continue lumbering at a profit in this valley? Oh, five or six years will wipe out most of our mills, though the last tree will not be cut for some time to come in these states. I am speaking now main- ly of Wisconsin and Minnesota and Mich- s it with your own mills in Are they increasing or di- Diminishing. We get through saw- ing at Shell Lake this year and we are ing through at Hayward, so there are two mills less. And taking down those mills? We used to operate four in Daven- Iowa; we have only got two left Q. To what part of the country are you resorting for a_supply of timber in the failure of this Missi: i valley timber? We have been buying in Idaho, shington and Oregon. What has been the extent of your purchases in Washington? We own _ 1,250,000 acres in_ that eighborhood—from that up to 1,500,000 acres; about 200,000 in Oregon, and per- haps about the same in Idaho. . Have you begun manufacturing lumber from any of that timber? A. Yes, sir; we manufacture in Wash- ington and manufacture in Idaho. He thought the largest market was in Towa, eastern Kansas _ and Nebraska, gaia Illinois was considerable of a mar- The facilities now offered whereby he could ship, by the Great Northern and Northern Pacific and the Burlington, were of great advantage both to his com- pany and the public. In fact, this com- bination was practically vital to his doing business at all. G. B. Harris. Geo. B. Harris, president of the Bur- lington system, testified that he had been with th: stem in some form for thirty- six yee he road had about 8,200 miles of track, and to the question whether the acquisition of the Burlington by the Great orthern and Northern Pacific would re- rain trade and traffic between the states and foreign countries, he replied: ‘On the contrary, I think it will pro- mote business very greatly and develop jatent resources and enable forest, min- eral and other products to be utilized, which are now idle. The practical exten- sion of the Burlington road to the Pacific coast by reason of its connection affords opportunity to merchants and manufac- s to extend their markets. He cited the fact that he had 2,400 miles of track in Nebraska and there is not a tree on it, except those which have been planted by No lumber is cut in Nebras- old on the market. Lumber is The lumber has got to come directly from the Pacific coast. Formerly they got enormous quantities of lumber from Chi- cago, but that supply was now largely exhausted. and if they coudl not get it from the Pacific coast, they could not get it from anywhere. ‘The cattle Industry, he said, was another great business that ‘was being developed hy this management. ‘The cattle are load- ed on the ranges on the lines of the Great Northern and Northern Pacific and sent down on the Burlington to feed and fit for the market. He thought the Burlington rails reached avery large packing point that he could think of, excent Sioux City. Q. What effect will attend the trans- portation of lumber onto the Burlington and the territory tributary to it, as af- fording reurn traffic over the Great Northern and Northern Pacific, increas- ing the volume and the reduction of rates? ‘A. Well, it Js obvious that a wagon which can go loaded both ways can af- ford to do business at a lower price than one which has to be hauled one way emp- ’, and the lumber business affording a netant supply of tonnage eastbound the company to do westbound tonnage, and tempts us to do westbound tonnage at the lowest price we can afford to in order to promote that business. We accomplish various things by doing that. We give the people of Nebraska and Iowa, where we have a great many lines—we give them cheap lumber, Which promotes frade there, promotes settlement. They puild houses, make improvements, and it js an added inducement to people to settle there where we need setttlement, and. in- dirctly, it helps us in other ways. Those people have got to wear shoos and clothes and have tea and coffee. "The next matter taken up was the trans- portation of coal and iron ores. Speaking bf this Mr. Harris said: We reach a great jmany mines from the Streator district on the north to the district of which Centra- Jia is the southernmost point in the south, put a great many, and some very large ones, and a few years ago—a very short time ago. in fact—the coal supply on the Burlington lines in Mlinois had exceeded the demand to such an extent that the coal operators were beginning to be a lit- tle restive about it. They thought we ought to be able to hustle around and pro- Side a market in some way—do something about it. But {t was somewhat difficult fo do that independently. The soft coal foes not stand a great many transfers; jt is friable deteriorates rapidly and must be taken from the mines to as near the point of consumption as possible without per transfer, So this country: up here, being without coal— By Q. You mean “up there” along the Great Northern and the Northern Pacific, Minnesota and Dakota? + "Yes, this northern country, and es- pecially the Hnes of those two roads. Rye thought that that would afford us a permanent market for that large amount of coal that is to be had ‘there oderate price. at money did, you have an advantage, through shipment and exchange of cars, Mer the fluctuating | conditions attend- fant upon a joint rate? ‘Weill, in prone ring. for &, it, gh ed ness you could not provide , nor pear the miners afford to work the mines and make the dares expenditure that is necessary to do it in the most economical ‘and efficient manner when the market ‘was liable to be changed, or as I said be- fore, the door was Mable to be shut Boy mebody saying, ‘Well, we thin! we turn this current of commerce else; we would rather have it os from some other place.” The field, we think, is fhe largest, is the cheapest. It will promote the mining of coal down there and the use of coal up Here, and we can do that better than anybody else can, Mr. Harris then proceeded to explain at some length the transportation of the ores of precious metals along the line of the Burlington road. He said the Burling- ton.line ran to Billings and through the Black Hills country in South Dakota, where there are large mineral deposits, all of low grades. Continuing, he said that the Burlington stockholders thought, that through the sale to the Northern and Great Northern a large amount of business would be of necessity thrown to the Burlington, which would produce a greater revenue than if the Burlington operated alone. He then took up the question of iron ore and explained the large advantages. of shipments of iron ore from the deposits on the — range, reached by the Great Northern and Northern Pacific. By this means the ore could be taken down the Mississippi valley to St. Louis and coal returned on the same cars. This would en- able coal to be transported at much lower rates than would otherwise be possible. There are large manufacturing interests along the line of the Burlington, especially in Missouri, and many articles manufac- tured which are adapted to the Oriental trade. By means of a connection of the Great Northern and Northern Pacific, these manufacturing plants are greatly increased and stimulated, as there is a means of direct shipment to the coast. There are also large quantities of raw manufactured cotton to be shipped aver the Burlington to the coast. All of this made a business which is valuable to the public, because the larger the amount of general freight which could be secured, the lower would be the freight on mer- chandise and specific shipments of indi- viduals along the line of the roads. The cross examination of Mr. Harris was conducted by Mr. Day, and practic- ally elicited nothing new, but emphasized the points which he had made in his direct examination, that the purchase of the Burlington by the Pacific roads would ii crease business and aid in the develop- nee of all the region traversed by those ines. He was especially strong in his claim that the supply of coal to the northwest could not have otherwise been made prac tical, as the cost of transporting coal without the return business for the coal cars would make rates so high as to be al- most prohibitory, but with the interweav- ing of business both ways they could make the coal supply adequate for the northwest and within the reach of all. President Mellen’s Testimony. Mr. Mellen, president of the Northern Pacific, testified that he had held that position since August, 1897, and that the position carried with it a membership in the board of directors, and also member- ship in the executive committee. He had at one time, some years ago, been con- nected with’the Union Pacific. He was familiar with the Burlington system and had been for ten years, He thought that the acquisition of the Burlington system by the Northern Pacific and Great North- ern not only did not restrain trade and commerce between the -states and the foreign nations, but that they promoted it both in freight and passenger service. The Northern Pacific as a company had never taken any part in the formation of the Northern Securities company, and the Great Northern and Northern Pacific were in equally the same position they were in before the Northern Securities was formed. W. P. Clough, W. _P. Clough fourth vice-president of the Northern Securities company was the next witness. Every purchase of stock made by the Northern Securities Company has been a direct individual transaction. ‘The stock purchased was transferred ab- solutely unconditionally in every case and without solicitation on the part of the company, He had been practically present at the New York office every business day since the company was organized. There was nothing unusual in the transfers. Holders of Great Northern and Northern Pacific stock would come in and ask to sell it to the company and would receive in pay therefor stock of the Northern Securities company. He was next asked the amount of hold- ings in the Northern Securities company of the eight or ten gentlemen espectally named by Mr. Hill, as his particular associates, to which he replied that he thought that it was less than one-third of the stock of the Northern Securiies company. Company. ° E. N, Sanders. ‘The last witness examined in St. Paul was Mr. E. N. Sanders, president of the Northwestern Fuel company. He testified that he was a miner and distributor of coal, and had principal charge of that company, distributing coal in Minnesota, North nd South Dakota and Nebraska, and some in lowa and northwestern Ill- nois and Wisconsin. They mine about 2,000,000 annually. He also stated that he was interested in the Spring Val- ley Coal company in northern Illinois, and in a coal mine in Indiana. All of this is bituminous coal. He said that within a short period the greater portion of the bi- tuminous coal which he had furnished for the northwest came from Pennsylvania and Ohio, and that in recent years they had difficulty in obtaining their supplies. During the past two years it was almost impossible to - anything like an ade- quate supply. The requirements for trans- portation on tue railrodds from the east have been so great that they have been absolutely unable to furnish» the motive power to move the cars and the cars them- selves during the short period of naviga- tion. The following questions and answers were especially pertinent: Q. Heretofore, prior to the year 1901, how it has been with Illinois coal shipped from the mines in that state destined to points beyond St. Paul and Minneapolis? It has been almost impossible to get it through on account of the fact that the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy and other roads who could haul it to those points have always been unwilling, and in fact have refused to allow their equipment to go through to the destination of the coal, which necessitated transferring it here into the cars of the lines r hing north, to the great injury of the c and great delay in transit, and with great addition to the cost. Mr. Grover—What makes the additional cost? Witness—The labor of transferring and the delays incident to transferring. Q. State what effect that has upon the itself, and whether that effect ‘is ter on illinois coal than on eastern fo coal. A. It is damaging to all grades of bitu- minous coal, and especiaily to Illinois coal, in that it breaks it up and produces a large amount of sereenibgs and waste, to the great detriment of the purchaser. What advantage would it be in the transportation and distribution of coal it the cars could go directly from the mines in Illinojs to points of destination on the Great Northern and Northern Pacific roads without breaking bulk? A. It would make the Illinois fields di- rectly available to the users of coal on their coal supply cheaply and promptly. Q. Ys this Mlinois coal of such charac- ter that a consumer can put in a large stock of it? ‘A. It is coal’that is not advantageously ocked, as it contains rather more sul- ur, is more friable and disintegrates more rapidiy than higher classes cf coals. But it has an evaporating power which is adequate for all purposes, in compari- son with Eastern coal, if used fresh mined, and after being shipped directly from the mines, Q. About how far West on the lines of the Great Northern and Northern Pacific do your operations extend? A: Well, in bituminous coal to the bor- ders of the State of Montana, the West ern limits of the Dakotas and Nebraska. Advantage to Customers. Q. Assuming, Mr. Sanders, that this coal can come from the Lilinois coal mines up here on the Burlington road and then go out aver the Great Northern and Northern Pacific without breaking bulk, on the through tariff (likely to be perma- |. nently, what advantage would the con- sumers of that coal at the points of destination on these two Northern roads gain over and above what they would have if it went the way it has been going, breaking bulk at St. Paul, and depending on a joint tariff between different roads? ‘A. In the first place, they would have an assured regular base of supply for a splehdid-quality of fuel, which they could) depend upon, and, in my judgment, it would result in a reduction of the aver- age cost to the consumers of fuel in that territory of 25 per‘ cent. a ae 4 SAVED A LIFE,) Gratitude promotes publicity, and its no wonder. people testify| when life is saved. The Baths of St. Amand. danger, for bad backs are but kidney sult is as follows: Carbonate of lime, ills and neglect may prove fatal. Neglected backache is quickly fol | jime 0.616: lowed by too frequent urinary dis-| 9 431; chlorides ct potash apaiam charges, retention of the urine, pain- | calcium, 0.038; chloride of magnesi. ful urination, Diabetes, Bright’s dis-| um, 0.050; silica and alumina, 9.010; * organic and waste matter, 0.021. 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