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THE EVENING STAR, WASHINGTON, D. T, TUESDAY, JANUARY 29, 1935. RS #a¥ y » Y x s e i 0 BRUNO LINKED WITH NOTES BY ' SENTENCES HE USES. DEALS WITH FISCH TOLD BY ACCUSED Silver Deposits Due to Error in Writing Slip, He Claims. By the Assoclated Press, FLEMINGTON, N. J., January 29.— Traps and pitfalls beset Bruno Rich- ard Hauptmann when he was called back again to the witness chair to undergo further ruthless cross-exami- nation at the hands of Attorney Gen- eral David T. Wilentz. The State opened on the apparent discrepancies which the phlegmatic Bronx ex-convict allowed to creep inta his testimony in the two crowded days he has been on the stand. Throughout Hauptmanns’ direct and cross-examination the legal battery and experts at the State’s table have been checking every word of his story. Today the plan was to capitalize on those checks and thrust away at the weaknesses in Hauptmann's armor. Mindful of the court room spectacle yesterday, when jammed crowds choked the tiny, old-fashioned room and turned the Lindbergh murder trial for the first time into & carnival of bad taste, Sheriff John H. Curtiss and his deputies were very watchful and alert, Admission to court was ex- ceedingly difficult to obtain and the room presented a less crowded and more orderly appearance. Clifton Webb, dancer and Broad- way star, was again one of the early comers and again had a front-row seat. Prosecutor Anthony M. Hauck of the prosecution staff, after conferring with others at the State's table, said it would probably require all morn- ing to complete the cross-examination of the pallid defendant. This would indicate Hauptmann would be on the stand most of the day. His redirect examination was ex- pected to be long, for the defense”will seek to repair what damage the prosecution has done to his story. ‘The State’s recross-examination will likewise be protracted. Mrs. Hauptmann, who the defense says will follow her husband on the stand, was not expected to be reached until late in the afternoon. Slight Smile Seen On Bruno’s Face. Hauptmann appeared in court at 9:45 for the third day of his cross- examination. ‘The same slight smile was on his face as ne walked in, clutched at each wrist by a guard. After sitting down in his chair back of the defense table, he talked with C. Lloyd Fisher of the defense staff. He smiled as he talked. Attorney General David T. Wilentz came in soon after, smiling and laugh- ing with friends seated near the prose- cution table. He did not look at Hauptmann, who was bent forward, earnestly talking to Fisher and Fred- erick A. Pope, another of his counsel The kidnap ladder, one of the most important State’s evidence against Hauptmann since the testimony that Hauptmann tools and lumber built it, was set up by the witness stand. At its foot was placed Hauptmann’s plane, the tool allegedly used in building it. The other defense attorneys, Edward J. Reilly and Egbert Rosecrans, ap- peared at the defense table. Rellly was busy reading telegrams from friends seeking his intervention in getting them into the tightly locked court room. Through all the hubbub preceding the court’s convening, Hauptmann sat preoccupled most of the time, oc- casionally biting his lips slowly and thoughtfully. Once or twice he talked gravely with his lawyers. Mrs. Hauptmann took her seat near Bruno shortly before court convened. She smiled at spectators near the de- fense table and immediately engaged in conversation with her husband. An- other conference with counsel inter- rupted their chat. Lindbergh Present, in Usual Place. Court convened at 10:03. Justice Trenchard rapped his gavel for order and directed the jury be polled, Col. Charles A. Lindbergh, Col. H. Norman Schwarzkopf, the State police head, and Col. Henry Breckinridge, Lindbergh's legal adviser, came in as the jury was being polled, They took their usual seats. Justice Trenchard surveyed the crowd and the much-improved condi- tion of the aisles before calling Haupt- mann to resume the witness chair. Hauptmann, trailed by his guards, stepped quickly up to the stand and with a serious, intent look stared at the attorney general awaiting the first question. He cocked his head, in quiz- zical fashion to one side and sat up- right in the chair with his hands gripped together. Q. On April 2, 1932, when it was testified that $50,000 was paid, you ;ald you resigned from your job? A. es, Q. And you testified you quit be- cause you found you were being paid #80 instead of $100 a month? A. Yes. Hauptmann and Wilentz engaged together in a little mathematical prob- lem of what his daily salary as a car- penter would be at $80 a month. “I didn’t figure it out yet,” said Hauptmann. “It was about $2.66, wasn't it?” ‘Wilentz estimated. Hauptmann nodded. Cross-Examination Begins Quietly, Q. You were pald twice monthly, bi-monthly? A. Yes. Q. And you said you went to work on March 15 or 16? A. Yes. Q. So if you had worked a half month you'd have $40 if it was $80 a month? A. Yes. Q. Were you paid by check or cash? A. T guess it was by check. ‘Wilentz kept his voice down. He was gentle, almost silky as he questioned the witness. Hauptmann’s answers were in the same colorless monotone which has characterized most of his testimony. Lindbergh took up staring carefully at the witness, in the same rapt way he has watched him since he was sworn as & witness. = Bruno Says Check Was Given Him. The figuring went on, with Haupt- mann mentioning the difficulty of Sundays and Holidays. “When you figure 25 working days in a month it would be $¢ a day,” said Wilentz, “figured at the rate of $100 a month.” “How do you figure dem days with Sundays and holidays?” he asked ‘Wilentz. Q. The wages were by the month? A. Yes. Q. Why did you not quit at the end of March? ~ A. I always quit at the end of the week. ‘Wilentz ‘showed Hauptmann & pay theck which he said was his, | & Hauptmann’s Smile Fades Under Wilentz Grilling s Left: Bruno Richard Hauptmann, accused kidnap-killer of the Lind- bergh baby, caught in a smiling pose just before he took the stand at his trial in Flemington, N. J., yesterday. Smiles were noticeably missing while he was being cross-examined by Attorney General David T. Wilentz. Egbert Rosencrans, one of his attorneys, is shown at left. Right: Mrs. Hauptmann (left) and Mrs. Greta Henckel pictured at the trial. Mrs. Henckel’s name came into the testimony when Hauptmann testified that he met Mrs, Henckel “without much introduction” while his wife was away. Q. You got that money from this employer? A. Yes, that's the pay check for March. He turned over the yellow check thoughtfully in his steady fingers. “That's the pay check for March,” Hauptmann explained. “That would be at the rate of $100 & month?” Wilentz asserted. “It would have been $40 if you worked one-half a month,” the attor- ney went on. Q. The check is not for $40 is it? A. No. Q. If you worked one day less than one-half a month, they should have taken off $2.66. But they took off $3.33. That was too much? A. Yes. Cashed Check At Lumber Yard. “I offer the check in evidence,” ‘Wilentz said. “No objection,” said the defense. Q. Now you worked two more days in April? A. Yes. Q. And you got paid $3.33 a day? A. Yes. He identified the pay check for those two days and it was accepted in evi- dence. Q. Now you cashed that check at the National Lumber and Mill Work Co.? A. Yes. That was the lumber yard where the kidnap ladder wood was traced by State experts. Q. You were employed there at one time? A. Yes. Wilentz, changing course, suddenly introduced into the proceedings the pame of the Morrow estate maid who committed suicide as she was to be questioned after the Lindbergh kid- naping. AQ. Did you know Violet Sharpe? . No. Q. Did you know any one who knew Violet Sharpe? A. No. Q. You had never even heard of Violet Sharpe? A. There were stories in the newspapers. Q. I mean prior to March 1, 1932? A. No. Q. You never knew any one con- nected with the Lindbergh household prior to the kidnaping? A. No. Wilentz was attacking the defense efforts to throw suspicion on Violet Sharpe and other Morrow and Lind- bergh domestics. The interrogator next produced Hauptmann’s large account book. Q. In May, 1932, you bought a radio? A. Yes. Q. How much did it cost? A. $400. Q You bought field glasses? A. Yes. Q. How much did you pay? $126. Q. In July, 19327 A. Yes, Denies Keeping Cash in Phonograph. Q. Before you bought the radio you had & Victrola in the front room? A. Yes. Q. Did you put money in the Vic- trola? A. Possibly I keep the rent in it. Q. I mean lots of money, packages of money? A. No. Q. Didn't you put the Fisch money in it? A. No. Q. Didn’t you have $6,500 from Fisch? A. Yes. Q. At any rate, early in 1932 you had no money in the Victrola? A. No. Q. Isn't it a fact you opened the Victrola in the presence of Fritz Hahn and there were two packages of money on the top? A. No, absolutely not. (Grinning,) Q. You say now that when Mr. Hahn was in your home in April or May, 1932, you didn’t open the Vic- trola and he saw the bundles of money? A No. (Laughing tone.) A Q. Didn’t you tell him he could |J not go in the bed room? A. I can't say that I said it. Q. Didn’t Mr. Hahn ask you about the money? A. No. Q. He didn't? A. I really can't say he was ever in our house. Wilentz then drew from the wit- ness he had taken the Hahns to Rye Beach and stopped at the Hauptmann house. “I really can’t say he was ever in our house,” he repeated with a smile. Q. Mr. Hahn is a good friend of yours? A. Yes. Aqk He don’t owe you any money? . No. Q. Do you remember you saying to Mrs. Hahn you were giving your wife about $1,000 to go to Burope. A. No (still smiling). Wilentz’s Voice Rises to Badger. Q. Will vou say Mrs. Hahn was ever in your house? A. I can't re- member. Q. Will you say she wasn't there? A. Maybe when I was out— Q. When you were there? A. I O enta: s voice gradually volce rising to a badgering pitch, pressed the wit- ness to say categorically whether or —A. P. Photos. story about the wood yesterday? A. No. Wilentz swung to another line of attack, that of his alibi for the kid- nap night. Q. Who told you to change your story and tell about the dog? A. No- body. I found out about it myself. Q. Never mentioned it, did you. A. No. Q. Never said anything about walk- ing the streets with a dog? A. I re- member it afterward that I think of it. Q. Why didn’t you think of it then? A. T guess I know, but I don’t think it was important. Q. It wasn't important. The only important thing in that extradition proceeding was whether you were in the Bronx the night of the kidnaping as you testified or in Hopewell as New Jersey claimed? A. Yes. Q. So it was important, wasn't it? A. Yes. Market Transactions Figure in Testimony. The questions, shot rapidly at the quiet-spoken defendant, turned to the market transactions. Q. You sold short, didn't you. A. Yes. Q. Did you buy put and call. In other words it’s a hedge? A. Insurance. Wilentz went into the technical details of puts-and-calls, winding up, “you I all the tricks of the trade in Wall Street; didn’t you?” Q. When you had the $4300? A. Yes. Hauptmann explained his wife had complained at the small bank bal- ance in their account and he had dipped into his money trunk and took out some money. “You can go over all dem slips and you will find no more than $12 in silver,” Hauptmann volunteered. Q. $12 and $10 and $10 is $32, though, in nickels? A. I didn’t have a mickel shop. The jury studied the dej clrergldly as the questi it slips pro- He got no answer from the witness, | Bress Hauptmann, smiling, corrected Wil- entz that he did not lose, but won “a few dollars” on put and call. Q. The only money you put in was from Fisch from furs and from your bank account? A. And a mortgage. Q You deposited hundreds of dol- lars in silver change? A. I'd like to explain to the jury. The large amount of silver, the State contends, came from the change Hauptmann obtained by passing ran- som money. Q. Where did you get all that silver? A. It was a mistake. Sometimes on the slip, the deposit slip, when I write it down, I get the bills down below the line where it reads silver. Q. You mean that some of the de- posit slips show silver but what we call silver were really bills? That right? A. Yes. ‘Wilentz produced the deposit slips. Q. Take a look at this. It shows coins, $186. A. That is wrong. It means bills. You can’t expect to carry $200 in silver in my pocket. Q. But isn't that your handwriting on that slip? A. Yes. But I never carried that much silver. Defendant Blushes During Examination, ‘Wilentz showed him another slip. Q. You put the bills in the right Pplace then? A. No, that’s all right. Another deposit slip was shown him, and again Hauptmann said it was all right, the bills and coins being in the correct place. A red blush suffused the carpenter’s face as the questioning progressed. Q. What's this $8 in bills, $12 in Hgoolnnm. and $80 check? A. That’s all Now, here’s $62 in bills, $12 in coins? A. Yes. Q. Here is $12 in coins. A. That means bills. Q. Between bills and checks? A. That is bills. Q. Another— coins, $84. A. That's a mistake. I didn't pay so much at- tention to the figures, how I wrote them. One after one Wilentz showed him deposit slips in his handwriting, show- ing large deposits of silver. Haupt- mann seemed to be getting confused and his explanations became more jumbled. “It should be bills. It should be bills,” he repeated monotonously as he looked at the deposit amounts he had marked beside the word “silver” on a deposit slip. Counterfeit Coin Draws Question. Wilentz hammered questions about a counterfeit quarter among the de- posits and Reilly protested. The jus- tice advised Hauptmann he would have “opportunity to answer.” Q. Here is $200 in bills deposited in September, 1932, You weren't work- | °IU ing. Where did you get the money? A. From the fur business. Wilentz and the defendant con- Q. But it is in your hands A. Yes. Q. And here’s the bank clerk’s num- ber, 166? A. Yes. Q. He chcked it? A. Yes, all he cares is the amount is right, not the not he had ever invited the Hahns|coin to his house, but Hauptmann said he could not recall. At times he gr at Wilentz. Harns. Wilentz asked if Hahn ex- claimed about the expensive radio. “Ymnlirdemhnxlmry,"fll\w mann - “We'll see about that,” Wilents re- plied. Q. Didn't you signal your wife to jump up when a witness was on the stand? A. That's ridiculous. Q. Weren't you told to change your 1 ‘While the jury studied the deposit slips as court paused for a conference between Reilly and Wilentz Haupt- man pored over his large financial ledger, which had been given him on the stand. Q. Did you deposit $750 in gold in the Central Savings Bank? A. Let me explain I went to the strong box (safety deposit box) and took it out and deposited it. Q. You took the $750 in gold bills to some place, exchanged for other bills and deposited in the Central Sav- ings Bank? A. No. Q. That was March, 1933, when President Roosevelt called in gold? A. Yes. Mrs. Hauptmann Relaxes During Trial. Mrs. Hauptmann did not seem to be following her husband’s testimony as closely as usual. She looked around casually, smiled at neighbors and only occasionally, it seemed, did she glance toward the man on the witness stand. Hauptmann turned the pages of the book, while Wilentz stood at his el- bow, waiting. Q. That's your book, isn't it? A. Yes. Q. A bodk in which you kept ac- counts of your stocks, your dealings with Fisch? A. Yes, all of it. Q. You kept the book for yourself, for your own information? A. Yes. Q. You didn't keep it to fool any one? A. No. Q. You weren't trylng to hid any- thing from any one? A. No. Q. So it's a true and accurate rec- ord? A. Yes, but not all is in it. Q. It's a true and accurate state- ment of all that’s in jt? A. It's not correct. Q. Everything in it is correct, but you left something out? A. Yes. Let me explain, please. Q. If your book says $12,000, it was $9,500? A. Yes. That's correct. Q. If you wrote to the Fisch family in 1934 and said you put up $12,000 worth of stocks, was that a lie? A. No. Q. But you had put up only $9,500 stocks? A. Yes. . Q. You did put up $12,000 in secur- itles? A. Yes, that’s correct. Q. When you wrote to Isador’s family after his death did you say anything about the stock you bought from him? A. No. I did not. Tells of Buying Interest From ‘The defendant launched an explan- ation of the stock dealings of Pisch. He said the little furrier did not make enough. Hauptmann suggested that ded. Q. When did you and he start this account where you were to put up $17,500 and he was to put up $17,500? October, the end of October, 1933, Q: You never had any stock deal- ings before October, 1033? A. That the 50-50 account. and the circulation of ransom bills im- mediately preceding. Q. Why, because money? A.-Oh, no, I didn't need the money. Q. Why did you put it in circula- tion? A. I thought I wouldn't take the check from my stock acocunt so I put this money into circulation and used it. Took Ransom Bill to Shoe Store. Q. So you took the money because you didn't want to take it out of your stock account and you had living expenses? A. Yes. Q. When you and your wife went to buy her shoes you took one of the bills? A. That's correct. Q. Before, when you needed living expense money, you took it out of your stock account? A. That's right. “Altogether, I put in circulation, I figure, from 12 to 15 bills,” he con- cluded. Q. For your living expenses? Yes. Q. Prior to that time you would have taken the money from your bank- ing or brokerage accounts? A. Yes. Q. So, then, whenever you needed money you dipped into that money and took out a bill at a time? A. Yes, but I took four or five bills at a time. Q. But you didn’t take it out just to cash it, to get it changed to other money? A. No, for living (expenses). Q. You didn't take the bills out and cash them just to get rid of them? A. No. Q. Why did you deposit $200 during August and September, 1934, when you needed money for expenses? A. This bank was closed and I opened in an- other bank in Eighty-sixth street. Built Up Fund To Go to Germany. Hauptmann's voice trailed off to a whisper at the end of the explanation and Wilentz asked if he had finished. The interrogator suggested that the question Qe repeated and Hauptmann began again. But the defendant said he did not wish to. Hauptmann went on, however, ex- plaining that he opened an account in a Mount Vernon bank in Septem- ber, 1934, to build up “little by little" a fund to go to Germany. His wife, he said, did not know about the ac- count. Q. A special account? wanted to start a special account for our voyage to Germany. Q. You weren't worried about hav- ing enough money for that trip? A. Not worried, that's right. But if you take a trip—if you build up little by little, you don’t feel it so much. Q. But you had thousands of dol- lars in September, 1934. Thousands? A. In my stock account. Q. You didn't need money in Sep- tember, you had thousands? A. It was easler to build up little by little than take out $1,000 all at once. Q. You only used a little of the money (ransom)? A. I was going to return the rest to Mrs. Fisch. Q. You took about $300 of gold certificates and was going to give back the rest to the PFisch family? A. I got it from Fisch. Intended to Return Cash to Fischs. Q. So you intended to return the l“'utolflu‘ddwthemhl? A, es. Q. Then why did you spend the 12 A gz 3 :sp you needed the | Yo old trunks with nothing in them? A. Yes. Q. Why did you hide the money in the trunk? A. Somebody might come thoug! Q. Now you had $4,300 in a in 19317 A. Yes. Q. And you always kept money in that trunk? A. Yes. Q. You always took off some money to hide away? A. Yes. Q You always had money in the trunk? A. Yes. I spent everything. All the money was invested. Q. So you didn’t always have money in the trunk? A. No. Q. How much money was in that trunk in February, 1933? A. Gold certificates. Q. How much? A. I can’t remem- ber. It was all gold certificates. Q. Can't you state about how much you had? A. $750 about in gold cer- tificates. Q. What else? A. That's all there ‘was. Q. How much did you have in there December, 1932? A. The same. Q. How much in June, 1932, if you can remember. A. A little bit more than $1,000. I explain it dis way— Q. Just & minute. Do you want to correct your answer? A. That's cor- rect. End of May I took out $1,500 and in June I put it back. Court took a five minute recess at 11:32 am. Hauptmann’s Smile Continues On Leaving Stand. Hauptmann stepped down to his chair, the same slight smile on his face, as the recess was called. The jury filed back into the box and court resumed at 11:41. After the jurors had been polled, Haupt- mann went back on the stand. Wilentz walked over to the stand holding & sheaf of ransom letters in his hand as he resumed questioning the witness. Q. Now, June 1, you said you had a little over $1,000 in (the trunk)? A. ‘es. Q You had more in May and took some out to buy the mortgage? A. About the end of the year. Q In May, 1932, you took out $1,5002 A. I put it in furs. Q. So you had a little over $2,500 in the trunk? A. I can't say exactly the amount. Q. Anyhow you took $1,500 out of the trunk at the end of May, and what did you do with that? A. I put it in furs. Q. That left you on the 1st of June with $1,000 or $1500 in the trunk? A. Yes, that's ebout right. Q. How much money did you have in the trunk April 2, 1932. A. $4,300. Q. So you ‘took out between $2,000 and $3,000 between April and June, 19322 A. I don't remember exactly. Q. The $1,500 you took out for the furs, you deposited that where? A. I gave it to Fisch. Q. You don't know if it was ever deposited? A. It was for furs. *| German Accent Tends To Slow Trial. “furs” as if it were “fours.” Some- times his German accent was so pro- nounced his testimony was difficult to follow. Wilentz read from a ransom note, “because this kidnaping was planned for a year already.” He continued with another “this kidnaping was prepared for a year already.” Q. You've heard those two expres- sions and your statement about the trip to Germany: “Oh, that is planned for a year already.” Is that your method of speech? A. I dont know any other way. How would say it? Reilly Objects to Lack Of Direct Questions. Reilly objected and said Wilentz had asked no questions during the dis- course. He demanded that Wilentz follow up with questions about the ransom notes. The interrogator, Reilly asserted, had tried to give the jury an inference that because he planned s trip to Germany & Yyear ahead there was some connection with the ransom A. Yes. I|notes. Trenchard directed the record on the disputed questioning be ready. While part of the record which had been taken from the court was being brought back Wilentz took up a new line of interrogation. Q. When you were arrested, did you say you didn’t turn in the gold certifi- cates because you were afraid “they would hook you up?” A. I don't re- member. There were so many ques- tions. Besides it wasn’t my money. Q. You were in this country illegally, that's why? A. Yes. Q. That's why you changed your account to your wife's account? A. That's another reason. Q. Didn't you tell the authorities you didn’t know where there was & Federal Reserve bank? A. I can’t re- member my answer. There was so many questions. I can’t think that fast, Q And all the time you were say- been into a Federal deposit gold? Hauptmann pronounced the word]| colns you had in knew that money illegal? A. No, Roosevelt soms N STAND oft the fur profits listed ace count book. skt ofluoo $400, $457.50, $380,” he read Wilentz supplied Hauptmann with 8 pencil, asking him to write down the fur profits. The defendant wrote three and then asked to see the book again. “There is a couple more,” the de- fendant said. Hau gave the total as $1,735.50. “That’s one month,” he added. - | Wilentz Objects So the last two packages were . Where did you put first $1,000 ? A. I count it, yes. did you count? A. I . Seven or eight hun- Q. Once you put the beam up to the wall you didn't disturb it again. A. No. Q. In July, 1931, how much did you have in the trunk, about $4,300. A. Yes. Says He Sent Money to Uncle In Small Satchel. Q. In July 1931 now how much did you have then in that trunk—$4,300? A. July? Q. Yes the time you took the trip to California. A. I don't know. Q Now what did you do with the money you had in that trunk when you went to California? A. I put it in a small satchel and left it with my uncle in Brooklyn. Hauptmann said his uncle “didn’t know there was money in it.” .The furniture was put in storage and “a few things left with the uncle.” Al- most $4,000 was in the satchel. Q. You needed money for the trip? A. I took it out of the bank. Wilentz in his questions brought out that Hauptmann did not resort to the garage hiding place used for ran- som money. Hauptmann said he didn't leave his account book in the trunk because “it isn't money.” Q. Well your wife didn’t know about the Mount Vernon Bank account? A. I don't know or remember if she did. Q. Soyou could have opened an ac- count in some New York bank under your own name or some other name and she'd never know about it? A. Yes. Tin Box Used in Home For Valuables. The witness said he used & tin box in 1933 for valuables at home. Q. When the police came to your house there was not a dollar of money in that trunk? A. No. Because it was gone. Q. So you didn’t always keep large sums of money in that trunk? A. No. Q. You remember Mr. Frank testi- fled your brokerage account was about $16,0002 A. About right. Q. And his testimony was there was $9,000 in bank deposits? A. That's his way. There wasn't that much. “Because it's this way. You have $2,000 in & bank—I take out $1.000 and put it to work. I buy stocks or furs. Later I put the money back. It is the same money in the same channels,” he said, speaking straight at the jury. Explains “Repeat Money” Deposits in Bank. This is the “repeat money” Haupt- mann’s counsel urges 8s an explana- tion of the deposits the State claims came from the ransom. “If you follow my books, from the time Mr. Fisch left, you will find no new money was coming in,” Haupt- mann explained. Q. How much did Pisch lose in the stock accounts? A. About $15,000. In November, 1933, he was about even. Q. How much did you put in? A. Very little. There was 50 shares. Q. How much cash? A. $2,000 or $1,500. Q. You took some part of the ran- som money for your living expenses? A. I never had any ransom money. Q. How about the bills you were spending in August and September, 1934? A. I didn't know it was ran- som money. Q. But you did spend it, did you? A. Yes, I know now. Q. Then you did take s.me money out of your accounts for your living before November, 1933? A. Well— Q. Will you stand on your books? A. Yes. Q. Will you stand on the fur ac- counts? A. No. Q. Will you stand on the state- ment $2,000 was all you got Trom Fisch? A. No. Q. So you won't stand on your books. A. To a certain extent. Q. So that to a certain extent in the testimony at the Bronx, and now again to a certain extent on your book —you'll only stand on it to a certain extent? A. My own book don’t show everything. I told you already, didn't I? Q. You showed me the book? A. That $2,000, I told you, was special. Hauptmann Deliberate As itz Shouts. Wilentz's voice rose to a high-tone, nasal shout as he shot the questions. Hauptmann's replies were deliberate, but showed excitement. He spoke as though ' explaining to persons who understood with difficulty. Q. Will you find me any item in that book of yours which shows Pisch put in $15,000? A. It's not special marked. Q. Will you show me one line in that book which shows Fisch put in any more than that $2,000 he did put in? A. Fisch, he kept some books. Q. But not in here? A. No. Reilly objected to the rapid ques- tions, but Wilentz continued. Q. So you've got this book showing the stock accounts? A. This is only the $2,000. Q. Does it include the Fisch ac- count? A. It includes the Fisch ac- count but in my name. Q. But you haven't an account of a single other dollar from Fisch? A. No. Q. It's your book, I didn't write it? A. T wrote it. Q. When did you do most of your business? A. I'm not familiar with . Not familiar? A. No, Fisch he care of these. Fisch put in most of the money, in $1,500 or $2.000? A. Yes. to Remark. ‘Wilentz objected and Rellly asked that the remark be recorded. Justice Trenchard called the noon recess, ruling the answer could be given after lunch. Noon recess was taken at 12:30 p.m. Wilentz Says Examination Will End Soen. As the last spectators arrived for the afternoon session members of the prosecution staff said Attorney Gen- eral Wilentz had advised them it would require only another half hour to complete the cross-examination of Hauptmann. Even allowing for a lengthy redirect and recross-examina- tlon, this time schedule, if observed, made it seem probable Mrs. Haupt- mann would take the stand if the de- fense holds to its announced inten< tion of calling her after her husband. Hauptmann was brought back into court by his guards. Two of his coun- sel, Frederick A. Pope and C. Lloyd Fisher, spoke to him encouragingly and Mrs. Hauptmann greeted him with an expansive smile. He talked to her for a time. He was sober and intent, but apparently unruffied by the morning’s examination. The afternoon session of court got under way at 1:45. Justice Trenchard mounted the bench, the jury was polled and Haupte mann resumed his place on the stand. Fur Market Transaction Story Continued. Wilentz returned to the fur market transactions and the profits made. He had been discussing this topic when the morning session concluded. Q. What month were those profits made in? A. June or July. Hauptmann consulted his ledger. “That is everything we made.” Q. That's July 15, 1933? A. Yes. Q. Then it's more than one month? A. Yes. Q. Did you get any of that profit? A. No. We cleaned the books in Au- Q. You kept that book as a record of your accounts in stocks and furs? A. In furs only a little bit. Q. But stocks completely? A. Yes. Q. And the $1,737.50 is the only profits you list in that book as profits from the fur business? A. Fisch kept the accounts. There were more profits. Q. The only profit you show in the book was $1,737.51? A. Yes. Q. Fifteen thousand dollars went from you to the broker? A. Yes. Q. Is there one line in your record Fisch gave you one cent outside of $2,000? A. There is not. Bruno Says He Lacked | Knowledge of Business. Hauptmann said he didn't under- stand the fur business and didn't know any fur dealers with whom deale ings were conducted. Wilentz turned the questioning to the cemeteries figuring in the crime. Q. Did you work for the National Lumber Co., whose yards were near Woodlawn Cemetery? A. Yes. Q. So you were famillar with the cemetery? A. Not at all. “No, I never passed Woodlawn Ceme etery on my way to work.” Haupte mann said it slowly, positively. Q. Did you work at a lumber com- pany near one of the cemeteries? A. Yes, Woodlawn. You could see it about a mile away. Q Di:xll 1ygozu work at Marble Hill avenue 8? A. I worked so many places. It's hard to remember. Q. You worked at Two Hundred and Fourth street and Bainbridge ave~ nue, didn't you? A. Yes. Wilentz tried to locate the place on the map and asked Hauptmann to help him. Hauptmann looked at the map and remarked “T guess you can't see the cemetery from there.” The defendant said it depended whether or not he had his car how he got home from these places where he worked. Knew Location Of Bronx Cemetery. Q. What did you say about St. Ray- mond’s? A. I know there was a ceme« tery there but I didn’t know the name, Q. But you know there was a ceme- tery there? A. I passed it once, Wilentz asked if Hauptmann had worked on a Haviland avenue job, and the witness said he had. When Wi~ lentz asked if that was near St. Ray- mond’s Cemetery, Hauptmann de- clared the job was “far distance” from the graveyard. i Q. Did you pass St. Raymond's Cemetery when you visited Mr, Brent? A. Yes. Hauptmann said he had been in Yonkers once, but did not pass Wood- lawn Cemetery when he went there. ‘Wilenty had him outline the route he too kin going to Yonkers. Hauptmann took the long pointer, twisted in the witness chair and in- dicated the route to Yonkers across the top of the may, near Woodlawn. Q. You never passed by Woodlawn Cemetery, drove by? A. Why, sure, I passed by, drove by. Q. Did you ever drive past the ;‘emeury along Jerome avenue? A. 0. Q. How about East 233d street? A. Yes, maybe I drove along there. Wilentz shifted the geographical dis- cussion to the other end of the map, near St. Raymond'’s Cemtery, Haupt- mann asserted he never went by that cemetery. “I never had any business down there,” he said. Q. How far away from Dr. Condon did Mr. Mueller live? A. I don’t know where Dr. Condon lives. Q. Where did Mueller live? A. Marion avenue. Q. And Dr. Condon lived on Deca- tur avenue, and that's only a block away? A. Yes. “Knew All About” Bronx Territory. Q. You knew all of the Bronx? A. I probably knew all of the Bronx. Q. You knew Gun Hill road? A. Yes. Q. You did not know that Decatur avenue was one block from Hahn's house? A. I didn’t know until later. Q. You never were in St. Raymond's ;:emury or outside it? A. I passed y. Q. How about Woodlawn, will you say you never passed by that? - A, :urelpuledi'- 1t's not far from my ome. Wilentz then picked up the board from the Hauptmann closet: which bore the telephone number and ad- dress of Dr. Condon, He showed ji to Hauptmann. Q. Can you now give this court and