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W Fair tonight; tomorrow cloudiness; little change ture. Temperature for twenty ended at 2 p.m. 5 p.m. yesterda today. Full report on page 0. | AIRMEN SEPARATED IN FOG; 2 GO BACK; NELSON IS THOUGHT FLYING T0 ICELAND Smith and Wade Return to Kirkwall — Movement of Companion Cast in Doubt by Varying Messages | ' 560-MILE HOP STARTED | AFTER TWO-DAY DELAY! 5 Have Trouble in Getting Away Today, Then Travel But 60| Miles When Heavy Weather| Balks Progress—Faroes Await! Arrival With Interest. By the Associated Pross KIRKWALL, Scotland, August 2.— Lieut. ric Nelson and his mechan jan, Lieut. John Harding. jr. in the Army airplane New Orleans, were be- | ieved here this afternoon to be mak- a lone attempt to reach Iceland in first leg of the American world trans-Atlantic flight. 1 The attempt of Lieut. Lowell H. Smith, the flight commander, to lead | the world flvers to Hornafjord. Ice- | land, the first scheduled halt on the rip across the Atlantic, was frus-; trated by a heavy fog which lay in the path of the fiyers north of the Orkneys. ! Trapped by Weather. ing the fi | be ATHER. increasing in tempera- -four hours today. Highest, 81, at ; lowest, 61. at' 3 a.m. sy matier hington, D C. The WASHINGTON, Kaleidoscopic World Flight Leaves Many Incidents Untold Only High Spots Memories, and Things That Thrill Today Are Forgotten Tomorrow. BY FREDERICK R. NEELY. Btaff Correspondent of The Star. ABOARD S. RICHMOND, HOUTON BA PA FLOW, Scot- land, August (By Wireless)— Lounging about the Richmond yes- terday in impatience at the enforced delay in their scheduled hop over the bleak northern stretches of the At- lantic to Iceland, America's world flyers swapped reminiscences of early stages of the flight and found, some- what to their chagrin, that many in- teresting sidelights are escaping their memories in the kaleidoscopic whirl to which they have been subjected; a whirl they hoped would start again today. A detailed account of what one member of the flight terms “the most wonderful experience ever laid at the feet of mankind” probably never can unfolded. There exists no exact record of the mental and physical stresses which these dashing Ameri- can sky explorers have undergone, the very nature of the expedition pre- cluding the penning of a log such as WISCONSIN REJECTS DEFENSE DAY PLAN Gov. Blaine Says National Guard Will Take Part Only Remain in Flyers i globe circlers of the past were able to pass on to posterity. The thrills and dangers through which the aviators have passed since leaving the shores of Alaska have come so fast and thick that even a memory expert would have difficulty recalling them all. In the years to come, these men realized for the first time yesterday, that they will recol- lect but the high spots of the round of events and incidents marking their epochal trip. Experiences Escape Memory. ‘This realization dawned with the discovery during interviews with newspaper men yesterday that hun- dreds of experiences Bf the past few weeks have - eluded their minds’ grasp. Queried concerning published storles of interesting developments | of the hop, the Americans confessed they had about forgotten that these things ever happened. “Looking back on the terrifory we have just covered is comparable to looking :nto a kalaidoscope,” re- marked one of the flyers. “I can (Continued on Page 4, Column 5.) BOYFALLSINHOLD OF BLAZING SHIP Alexandria Fire Fighter, He- roically Rescued, Likely Foeni WITH SUNDAY MORNING EDITION D. @G, ALLIED CONFEREES AGREE ON PROGRAM AT SHORT SESSION Invitation Framed for Ger- mans to Come to London Without Delay. COMPROMISE ACCEPTED AFTER LONG DISPUTES Premiers and Kellogg Solve Prob- lems That Baffled Tired Experts. By the Associated Pross. LONDON, August 2.—A complete program for luunching the Dawes reparation settlement plan was agreed upon by the interallied conference during a half-hour plenary session at the foreign office this morning. The allied premiers and American Ambassador Kellogg took up the technical point with which the ex- perts had vainly struggled in two all- | night sesslons, and after modifications which Premiers MacDonald and Her- riot accepted the compromise settle- ment was reached. Invitation Goes Todny. It was announced later that the in- vitation to the Germans would be dispatched during the afternoon. When the agreement was reached | the wearied experts, including the Americans, James A. Logan and Owen D. Young, and Mr. Frazer of Great Britain, who have slept little during ! the last 48 hours, left the conference | room and the chief delegates began | | framing the invitations for tha Ger- HELD FOR ASSAULT . 1 MAYFLOWER MEN Two Sailors From Presi- SATURDAY, AUGUST 2, 1924—TWENTY-EIGHT PAGES. Hr Therelf, KEEP OFF Qg oF MY /[ Simplicity Marks First Anniversary of Harding Death By the Associated Press. MARION, Ohio, August 2.—Sim- plicity marked the -first anniver- sary of the death of the late Presi- dent Warren Gamaliel Harding in “From Press to Home Within the Hour” The Star’s carrier system covers every city block and the regular edi- tion is delivered to Washington homes as fast as the papers are printed. Yesterday’s Circulation, 92,089 e TWO CENTS. LAWYER ACCUSES WHITE OF CHANGING REPORT ON BOYS Crowe Says Washington Doctor First Told Defense Slayers Were Insane. LOEB SICK IN MIND DAY OF KILLING, COURT TOLD 2117 Clashes Between Prosecu- tion Counsel and Alienist Take Place. By the Associated Press. CHICAGO, August 2—A direct at- tack on the credibility of Dr. William A. White, head of the Government Hospital for the Insane at Washin ton, was made in Judge Caverly's court today by Robert E. Crowe State’s attorney, who cross-examined the doctor on his testimony in de- fense of Nathan Leovold, jr., and Richard Loeb. The attack developed in a shortened half-day session, when the prosecut asked Dr. White to produce the “o inal report” he had made to attorne | for the defense. It was stated flatly | from the present proceedings the re- | Mr. Crowe, over objections that came { hurriedly from Attorneys Clarence S Darrow and Walter Bachrach, that the e Il report held the defendants insane | | port might not be competent. e I “But, your honor,”” expostulated Mr. rather than mentally sick. | Union Leaders Expect Ap- | Crowe, “if that report shows that for on President’s Call. \ l ¥ Lieut. Smith in the Chicago, and Licut. Leigh Wade in the Boston, | were trapped by the fog when only miles from here, after a late start | this morning, and were forced to turn | about and return to their base in! Houton Bay. i Lieut. Nelson, in the New Orleans, | became separated from his leader and | supposedly took :nother course out | of the trap, continuing his fight to | Iceland. | Nelson had more petrol and oil than was necessary to carry him to Ice- land, even though he wasted a quan- tity of it searching for his colleagues. He was under orders to continue the flight under such “conditions untess his commander signaled otherwise. Separated in Fog. Lieuts. Smith and Wade returned to ! Kirkwall at 11:20 o’clock. Their ma- | chines flew over Kirkwall, and a, message from Lieut. Smith was drop- | Pped reading: “Send a message to the | Richmond that we all became sepa- rated in the fog and that Wade and 1 have returned. Have not seen Nel- son since we became separated on the course, 25 miles from Birsay.” Licut. Smith expressed his belief that Lieut. Nelson was continuing on to lceland. Two Are Reunited. The flight commander said that just | alter clearing the Orkneys the three | planes plunged into a dense fog, ex- | tending up 3,000 feet. The fiyers avoided it by dodging eastward, but were soon trapped in another and thicker fox. The flyers immediately lost sight o_ each other, but Smith and Wade, turning eastward, came together in a clear space 25 miles off Birsay in | the Orkneys. They searched half an hour for Lieut. Nelson and then abandoned the hunt to seek for the Richmond in or- | der to drop a message bag. The Rich- | mond was hidden in another fog off the West Orkneys, and they gave up this effort and returned over Kirkwall, dropping their message and then an> choring in Houton Bay. Richmond in Search. Lieut. Smith and Lieut. Wade, after they returned to Houton Bay, an- chored in a safe position and were taken ashore by fishermen. When they landed Maj. H. C. David- son, who is in charge of the Houton Way base. ordered the Richmond, Wwhich left to follow the fiyers, to slow down and hunt for Lieut. Nelson. He told the cruiser to return to Hou. ton Bay if it was advised of the safe- tv of the fiyer. The Richmond's position when she stopped was about 30 miles south of Birsay, off the coast. Lieut. Smith reported to Maj. David- son that he took the decision to re- turn rather than run the risk of try. ing to get through the fog while fly- ing in formation. He explained that the fog appeared to extend all along the route, reaching from the water up to 3,000 feet. The specific reason for the aban- donment, Lieut. Smith declared, was the danger of colliding with Lieut. Wade's plane during the search for Lieut. Nelson's plane. Hoped For Fair Weather. The flyers got away from Kirkwall at 9:27 with strong hopes of favor- able conditions for the 560-mile flight to Iceland. The two days of delay due to fog conditions all along the Toute to their first landing in Iceland had caused the airmen to become im- patient, and Lieut. Smith said that if the weather favored them he hoped their next lengthy stop would be at Boston, where the pontoons would be changed for wheels. The reports from the destroyers stationed at the Faroe Islands and off Iceland ear1y today said the fog had dispersed, that the visibility was from seven to nine miles and that there was little wind. There was only the merest ripple on the water when the three planes, led by the flight commander, in the Chicago, taxied out of the little sbeltered cove at Houton 4Continued .on Page-4, Column 2.) { national military SEES WARLIKE: MOVE | Executive Declares Nation Could Do Better Service by Showing ‘World Way to Peace. By the Associated Press, MADISON, Wis., August 2.—Gov. Blaine today recorded himself as definitely opposed to National Defense day, September 12, and characterized the plan as designed to stimulate a movement, which would be taken by foreign countries as a militaristic maneuver. The gov- ernor will not designate the day in ‘Wisconsin, it was said. Mr. Blaine's attitude was con- tained in a communication to Maj. Gen. Edward Hale, commander of the 6th Army Corps Area, Chicago, by Adjutant General Ralph M. Immell, at the governor's direction. “It is inadvisable for the American Government through propaganda and demonstration, to stimulate a na- tional military movement,” the state- ment declared, holding that a patri- otic demonstration in Wisconsin is unnecessary and that “it would be better to hold a demonstration that would lead the way for foreign na- tions to universal peace.” President Must Call Guard, The Wisconsin National Guard will participate in the demonstration only on the call of the President, issued under the constitutional authority in a national emergency, the statement said. . The communication of Gen. Immell to Gen. Hale, setting forth the gov- ernor’'s views, in full, said: “It is the opinion of- the governor that at a time when all people of the civilized nations of the world are demanding a reduction in armaments, both on land and on sea, it is inad- visable for the American Government through propaganda and demonstra- tion to stimulate a national military movement. While it is true that the sole purpose of the demonstration is to acquaint American people with a new national defense plan, yet it would be interpreted by foreign powers as the American layman in- terprets like demonstrations held in those lands. “Considering the participation of America In the last great war, the hopes, the ideals and the failure of America to achieve its purpose of universal peace, it would be well worth while for America to hold a demon- stration on September 12, 1924, that would lead the way for foreign na- tions to universal peace. Need No Stimulan: “It is the opinion of the governor that a patriotic. demonstration in Wis- consin is unnecessary. Wisconsin, the State that sent 94,000 men to the Civil War, 5,469 to the Spanish American War, and 124,814 men to the World War, needs no patriotic les- son. Wisconsin’s military record re- calls the major components of the Iron Brigade and the major com- ponents of the 32nd Division. It re- (Continued on Page 4, Column 6.) Russia SINCE LENIN The truth about that country” as it is today, in a series of uncensored articles by an ob- server who spent many months in Russia studying conditions. ¢ To_ be published daily. be- ginning today, on the Editorial Page of The Evening Star to Die. I\nlan government to send a delegation RESCUE IS HEROIC One Vessel Destroyed, Three Badly | Damaged—Torch of Work- man Blamed. By a Staff Correspondent. ALEXANDRIA, Va, August z.— George W. Whalen. 17 years old, youngest member of the Alexandria Fire Department, was probably fatal- ly injured and a doien otier - | men were overcome by smoke eafly today when flames swept three vet- eran cargo carriers of the Worlad War at the docks of the Western | Marine and Salvage Co. here. i Fourteen vessels, all wooden ships doomed to be cut up and sold tor junk. were threatened by the blaze for several hours, but the quick work on the part of the local fire department, the Washington tug | Firefighter and a score of volunteer river men confined the flames to tne three vessels, one of which was vir- tually destroyed and the others badly damaged. Fell Through Hateh, Whalcn was in charge of a pipe line and had been stationed on the | .bridge of the Dell Brook, where the fire started and was most severe. Stumbling over a section of the hose, he pitched 100 feet, head first, through | an open hatch into the seething hold | of the ship and lay unconscious on | the floor of the engine deck in danger of being cremated before help could reach him. A dozen volunteer rescuers quickly rigged up ropes, slid down into the smoking pit of the Dell Brook at im- minent risk to their own lives and carried Whalen as far from the lick- ing flames as possible. Every com- panionway, however, was a trap of fire and the only way the rescuers could get thelr dying comrade to safety was to rig up an impromptu stretcher of boards and rope. | | Hauled Through Smoke. On this Whalen was carefully hauled through dense clouds of smoke to the upper deck and rushed to the Alexandria Hospital. (There physi- clans found that his back had been broken and his skull fractured, in addition to minor injuries. Hope for his life was virtually abandoned and fear was expressed at the hospital that he would not live through the day. Two years ago his father, Wil- liam J. Whalen, was drowned in the Potomac River. Charles Whalen, a brother, is a member of No. 1 Engine Company, in which the boy was serving, and as- sisted in the rescue. Members of the family said George had joined the company only recently, having been prompted by a desire to attend the Virginia State Firemen's convention in Harrisonburg three weeks hence. His mother, Mrs. Lina Whalen, lives here at 119 South Royal street. . Fire Lald te Torch. The cause of the fire is lald to care- less use of an acetylene torch with which workmen were cutting up equipment in the engine room of the Dell Brook. Hot metal is believed to have found its way to woodwork and smouldered after all hands had quit yesterday aftermoon. The fire was discovered shortly after 1 o'clock this morning, and before the firemen could get into action the Dell Brook was a seething furnace. ‘The flames quickly spread to the Brookwood “and Horado, tied along- side. When Olaf Anderson, general syperintendent of the. yard, arrived he ordered the latter vessels cut loose. Fortunately the tide was coming in and they slowly drifted up to the next dock, where lines were made fast. The fire op them ‘was easily extin- guished, not having had time to eat its way below decks, ' In the meantime, the District Fire- la recess, | jurists’ committees, which are draft- to London Germans Due Monday. Prime Minister MacDonald hand the invitation to the embassy this afternoon, and Foreign Minister Stresemann and his col- leagues are expected to reach London Monday night. Meanwhile the conference will take with the exception of the will ing the results of the fortnight's work so that the document can be submitted to the Germans. The conference will enter its final phase with the arrival of the Ger- mans, who will be asked t> express their opinions on the program for putting the Dawes scheme into oper- ation. After the Germans have been beard a protocol embodying the pro- gram will be signed by the allies and the Germans, it is expected, and then the reparation commission will make its appointments and set up the or- | ganization necessary for carrying out the Dawes propaganda. Hold Plenary Session. The plenary session adopted the re- port of the first committee of experts dealing with defaults and penalties. It also adopted the report of the third committee, pertaining to reparation transfers. The fate of the conference hung on this latter committee through the early hours of this morning. Unable to reach an agreement, the experts passed the problem along to the plenary table, where the chief dele- gates worked out a compromise. The report of the second committee of experts dealing with the fiscal and economic unity of Germany had been adopted at a previous plenary ses- sion. . BRITISH TELL JAPANESE NOT TO RAISE GUNS ! Considers Naval Elevation Con- trary to Terms of nghlng- ton Treaty. By the Assoclated Press. TOKIO, August 2—The Japanese government has received communi- cation from Great Britain stating taht England considers the raising of the elevations of guns on warships contrary to the terms of the Wash- ington treaty. The communication is said to be similar to the one recently received by the Washington Govern- ment. The question will be referred to the government's naval experts be- fore a reply is sent. High naval officials, asked their opinion on the subject. replied that the elevatjon of guns was a military secret .ng not a subject for public discussion. . The general attitude of naval offi- cers is, howevér, that the ralsing of the elevations of guns would not be a violation of the Washington treaty. HITS COMMUNISTS. Bulgaria Orders Employes of That Affiliation Dismissed. SOFIA, Bulgaria, August 2.—The Bulgarian cabinet has ordered all governmental departmentg -to dis: charge employes having Communist amliations. The officials are said to have feared that shbotage might follow possible instructions from Moscow for the Communists to' begin activities here, S0 the cleaning out policy was di- rected, particularly ‘at the raliroad, mall, t ‘aph and telephone service. Huge Shipment of Grapes Forecast LODI, Calit., August 2.—Shipment ot 10,000 cars of grapes, about 1,200 cars more than last year from this dis- trict, was forecast by growers and shippers- meeting with Southern Pa- cific-trafc officials to discuss the sea- son’s crop movement. Zinfandels and Tokays will begin moving about Au- ierman | dent’s Yacht Detained as | Assailants of Veteran. Two sailors from the U. S. S. May- flower, the presidential yacht, are in cells at the first precinct today while police are running down a brutal | case of assault and robbery in which | the assailants beat Henry P. Whit- sell, of Richmond, Va., a crippled war veteran, into unconsciousness on a |roadside near Arlington Cemetery early this morning and then drove away leaving him bleeding on the ground, o ‘#ailors who are being held by the police in connection with the case are John Alexander Shcpherd and Frank Moore. Shepherd has promised to make a statement in regard to the case. Quick work by Sergts. Burke and Wise of the first precinct and De- tective Wilson and Policeman Mus- {selman has virtually cleared up all clouded angles of the case. When the initial report of the robbery came in early in the morning, Burke and Wise immediately set out to find the taxi :‘:;b in which the two sailors and hitsell were taken to Virginia. They located the chauffeur, Robert H.] Stover of Seat Pleasant, Md. as he was making his returns in the garage at the rear of 2013 H street. Sailors Arrested. He’told the police he had left the two sailors at 1004 H street north- west. The police rushed there. The sailors were taken into custody. ‘Whitsell presented a tragic appear- ance at the first precinct, where he told his story after having his head sewed up In three places at Emer- sency Hospital. He told of meeting the men at Seventh street and Pennsyl- vania avenue and of the trip to Vir- ginia which had been suggested by them, He said he remembered an iron pipe, later said by him to be a handle to a jack in the taxicab., descending on his head. After that he woke up on the roadside, almost blinded by blood from the wounds on his head. He made his way to a nearby gaso- {line station, told his experiences and was driven across the nver to the seventh precinct. Police took him to Emergency Hospital. There he was taken to the first precinct. Half his blue shirt was stained red with his own blood. Money Gome. He said that he had about $85 in |his pocketbook, which was gone atter his experience. Police say they recovered about $10 or $11 from the two sailors. They obtained money paid the taxicab driver by the safl- ors which wa. ained with blood. Stover readily told all details of the night's adventure. He explained that he was so worked up after the occurrence that he didn’t reporl it to the police. It was he who suggested that the auto-jack handle might have ‘been used in the beating administered to. Whitsell, and whén he produced it fromsthe floor of the car, Whit- sell identified it. Whitsell himself sald that Stover endangered himself 1t ting to stop the assault. I e e Skt log with sbout three inches of bone missing. 1t hap- pened In the Argonne. He was in the hospital for some time and had come to Washington to adjust a claim for compensation. While he can walk, a brace Is needed for his leg. He didn’t have the brace on last night and couldn’t make a stand against assailants without support- ing himself against a wall or & tree, he said. 3 Has Family in Richmond, He has a wife and baby in Rich- mond, Va. He sald he had com- pleted his work with the Veterans' Bureau and intended to return to Richmond today. 3 ‘Whitsell told the police. of having been offered and accepting a little drink of liquor from the sailors. He sald later tbat he thought he had been doped in the drink. He first met the sailors in a_Chinese restaurant . (Continued on Fage 4, Cotumn 17, this, his home town. Always avoiding ostentatious ceremony while he lived, his wishes were being followed after death. No public ceremony had been arranged other than the lay- ing of a wreath at his tomb in the cemetery here. The wreath, sent by President Coolidge, was to be placed without pomp. During the day hundreds wound their way along the shadowy paths of the cemetery, stood for a few moments with bowed heads at his tomb and passed on. At 7 p.m., the hour of his death at the Palace Hotel in San Fran- cisco one year ago, the old bell in the central fire station was to sound for the departed Executive. At the first stroke friends and neighbors of the nation’s former chiet are to bare their heads in reverent mien for five minutes. Dr. G. T. Harding, the former President’s father, himself in fail- ing health, was not to take part in any ceremony. With a few personal friends he may visit the tomb. LIOUOR CAR CHASED WOMAN ARRESTED Driver Leaves Laden Auto Under Fire—Prisoner Says She Was “Passenger.” For the second time in less than a week upper Sixteenth street was the scene of a mile-a‘minute race between police and a liquor car when police, just before daylight today, began a spectacu- lar chase after a fleeing automobile which led through miles of streets in the mnorthwest residential section, with bullets flying and sirens screeching. and ended in the abandonment by the driver of the pursued liquor-laden car and a ‘woman occupant. The woman gave her name as Laura Sherman and declared she was merely a “passenger.” She was released to- day on $300 bond. Vernon S. Story. eaid by police to have been the driver, later was taken into custody #&nd charged with transporting whisky. He was suffering from a wound in his arm. In view of the fact that Story re- cently pleaded guilty to a similar charge, a bond of $5,000 will be asked for his release, according to David A. Hart, assistant District attorney. The speed test between the fleeing auto _and the car and a (Continued on Page 3. Column 2 Coolidge Completes President Coolidge today complet- ed his first year in office, sticking. to his desk through most of the day, as he has throughout the entire period. President Harding died a year ago today at San Francisco and Mr. Cool- idge, then Vice President, took the oath of office early the next morning at his father’s home in Plymouth, Vt. He came immediately to Washington and hae besn here almost constantly since. Lewer Flag for Harding. In memory of President Harding the White House flag was lowered today to half stafr. As a rule, the flag is placed at half staff only in case of official mourning, but it was said at the White House that a special mark of respect was felt appropriate by President Coolidge, since this Iy still within the period of Mr. Harding's orgiinal term of office, i ‘When asked ‘'what he | considered the outstanding points of hlh first year in office, the Presi- i ; 3 Judge Caverly suggested that since the question of insanity was barred 18250 a day this witness has found proval of Candidate at Today’s Session. By the Associated Press, ATLAN The executive council of the Amer- ican Federation of Labor today is expected to receive the report of its national presidential campaign com- mittee and labor leaders here as lookers-on at the annual session of the council are expected to indorse the candidates of Senators La Fol- lette and Wheeler. Forecasts that the council will in- dorse these candidates for the presi- dency and vice presidency are coupled with assurances that the American Federation of Labor will not go so far as to pledge its support to all candidates who link their names with those of La Follette and Wheeler on a party ticket. Among labor chieftains here in the role of spectators, it is under- stood that the endorsements will be of candidates and not as members of a party. Thus, they point out, the A. F. of L. can throw the support of its four million or more members into the La Follette-Wheeler cam- paign without abrogating the unwrit- ten rule of the organization that it shall remain non-partisan. The council decided to attack to- day the problem of formulating an official policy for the A. F. of L. dur- ing the 1924 national presidential campaign, instead of delaying such action until near the end of the sessions as had been the program. The report of the campaign com- paign committee would have been réceived yesterday had it not been that Matthew Woll, president of the council and member of the commit- tee, did not reach Atlantic City until late in the afternoon. Gompers Not Opponing. Samuel Gompers, president of the American Federation of Labor, and chairman of the council, who on Thursday declared organized labor would, in 1924, “abide by its tim tried policy of non-partisan action,” authorized'a statement, communicated to the press, in which was the decla- ration that he “has not headed, is not heading, and will not head any oppo- sition to the La Follette-Wheeler candidacies that may arise at these sessions.” It developed that, contrary to re- ports, there probably will be no ser- fous split among members of the ex- ecutive council when the subject of national politics is brought up. It the national presidential campaign committee of the American Federa- tion of Labor, to be submitted to the (Continued on Page 2, Column 3.) First Year ! In Office by Sticking to His Desk| dent replied the general public was perhaps a better judge of that than himself. Working on Speech. Hopeful of getting in some ad- ditlonal work on his speech of ac- ceptance of the formal notification of his nomination, Mr. Coolidge to- day, for the second consecutive week end; gave up his usual trip aboard the presidential yacht Majflower, hoping, however, to go aboard for a while tomorrow. Mr. Coolidge said yesterday ‘he " expected ‘to conclude work on his speech “soon, but he reminded a group of newspaper men that pushing to an early conclusion a . speech which was not to be de- livered for some time probably might be compared with rushing a story which did not have to make an edition. Should a trip not be taken on the Mayflower tomorrow it is planned to send the yacht to Nor- . -folk for overhauling. NTIC CITY, N. J., August 2.—| was disclosed that the findings of | these boys insane and then for the same fee now holds them only men- | tally sick, I believe your honor will | give less weight to his opinions.” Another refusal of the report hy | the detense caused Mr. Crowe to say he was satisfied to “let the matter rest right there.” | Richard Loeb was “mentally ill" on } May 21, 1924, when he and Nathan Leo- | Poid, jr., kidnaped and murdered Robert { amination today by Dr. White i Judge John R. Caverly sustained | an objection by Walter Bachrach of defense counsel when Robert L. Crowe, State's attorney, tried to learn whether the expert thought Loeb was insane. The same opinion was given as to Leopold. The sessioni . developed a sharp sparring match between the witness and prosecutor. Nometimes M- Crowe's questions elicited & smile { from the doctor, again he complaigca they were meaningless and at other times insisted upon going into lengthy explanations when the State's attorney asked for “yes or no an- swer."” “That is impossible to give,” was Dr. White's usual response to such at- tempts to pin him down. Mr. Crowe once asked if the doctor [ thought Loeb had “dementia praecox, yes or no." “If he can't answer yes or | him answer as ne pleases | Juage caverly. | “Is dementia praecox legal insan- | | o. said let ity asked Mr. Crowe. “That is’for you lawyers to say, retorted the doctor over the “object— | sustained” that came from Mr. Bach- |rach and the court simultaneously Insanity Definition: The questioning went into the doc- tor's definitions of such things as “depravity” and “moral insanity” and the distinction between right and wrong. The doctor said “depravity” was “a moral term, not a psychiatric | word at all” He told Mr. Crowe the | latter knew as well as the witness what the word signified, and the prosecutor retorted: : “And you know as well as I what moral insanity is.” “You say that Loeb and Leopold are mentally sick, but vou will not say they are legally insane,” said the State's attorney. “Does the fact that their lawyers desire them to appear here in just that light cause you to back away from an expression of opinion on that?” Answer Is Blocked. A sustained objection blocked any answer to this Insinuation. “Can Loeb distinguish between right and wrong?” was another ques- tion that caused a deal of sparring as 10 the “sense” in which it was meant, whether ‘“ordinarily” or “legally.” “What is right?” “I would like to know cryptic reply. “Did Loeb know on May 21 that it was wrong to kill Robert Franks “He knew it was against the law 'Did he know it was morally wrong?" “He could not distinguish exaectly.” he legally insane?” Another objection was sustained. “What is criminal intent Was asked at another stage of the battle of ‘wits. “I don't know, you tell me, the comeback. ‘Haven’t you referred to it?” “No, 1 used the term ‘criminalistic tendencies.’ " 3 p The doctor defined this as “anti- social” and then said that “responsi- bility” was “a legal fiction,” and at best “acritique of soclet: White Still on Stand. Dr. White, defense alienist, still was on the stand at the resumption of to- day’s session. The two-hour session of court teday promised” but little progress, Robert E. Crowe. State's attorney, having just begum-his cross examination of Dr. White, when court adjourned yesterday and that busi- ness promising to the court's (Continued on Page B Colurn €3 was the