Evening Star Newspaper, December 18, 1921, Page 4

LA T ‘TRENCH RESENTING - DIGTATION ON NAVY 0qntrasted to Aceebtance by Great Britain and Japan of Proposed Ratios. The Frerch, it has been suggested, in approaching the question of naval strength to be fixed for France under the limitation of armament plan of the Washington conference, have taken the position that France is not to be dictated to by the United States. Great Britain and Japan, nor to have a capital ship tonnage fixed by _them. When _Secretary Hughes opened the conference with a frank an- nouncement of America’ plan for the limitation of naval armament he stated specifically just the amount of tonnage to be allowed Great Britain and Japan as well as the United States. He mentioned the ships by name which were to be scrapped by each nation. There was no outcry by the Jap- anese or the Britigh that the United States was attempting to dictate to them. In fact, the proposal of the Arericans was accepted promptly in principle, and, after the naval ex- perts had worked on the matter and there had been full conference, the ratio of 5-5-3 was agreed to. Delay Is Proposed. What, it was asked in some quar- ters today, would have been the at- titude of France if Secretary Hughes had included them in his calcula- tions on the opening day of the con- ference? Would the French have scen in the American proposal an cffort to dictate to them, or would they have seen merely a proposal for a getting together of the nations on a concrete plan for the limitation naval armaments? In_ his opening address Secretary Hughes said, regarding the French and ltalian navies: “It should be added that this pro- posal immediately concerns the Brit- ish empire, Japan and the United States. In view of the extraordinary conditions due to the world war af- fecting the existing strength of the navies of France and Italy, it is not thought to be necessary to discuss at this stage of the proceedings the ton- nage_allowance of these nations, but the United States prefers that this matter be reserved for the later con- sideration of the conference.” While Secretary Hughes has said that there should be some considera. tion given France and Italy in fix ing their ratio of naval strength, be- cause of the fact that they halted their naval building during the war with the central powers, this does not 1emove the fact that the underlying principle adopted by the Americans in proposing their plan, and accepted by the other nations, is the ratios shall be fixed with regard to existing naval strength. —_— DELEGATES GET PLEA OF COLORED CONGRESS Request Asks Hearing on Rele- vancy of Treatment of Negroes as Issue. Delegates to the conference on lim- itation of armament yesterday received a request of the meniorial committee of the second colored world democracy congress, asking to be heard on the relevancy of treatment of Colored per- sons n issue to be discussed by the parley. The requests were sent out at the final meeting of the cglored congrees at the John Wesley A. M. E. Zion Church yesterday The memorial committee_had a hearing on the re- quest by the democracy congress last night, with the secretary of the Amer- ican delegation to the arms confer- ence at the Navy building. Yesterday's session of the democracy congress was expected to act on the reply of the British and French dele- gations to the request for an audience befdre them. Thé request was transmitted to the British and French delegations by William M. Trotter of Boston, Rev. Beverly Saulsbury of Mississippi, E. T. Morris of Massachusetts. Rev. R. B. Brodie of New York and M. W. Spencer of Washington. The de- mocracy congress asked the aid of the foreign delegations toward a hearing on the color line issue. Final touches were given at the meeting today on the “Memorial of Coloved America to the Limitation of Atmhs Conterence for World Peace,” Which. .the congress asks to present o or to secure an audience be- fore the.frins conference. The congress, which was assembled by the committee of seven of the Dis- trict, Joms fn the memorial and form- ulated the detailed data of the me- morial. Addresses were made at the final mass nieeting last night by Rev. E. W. Jones and C. M. Tanner of Washingto . T. Bell of Kansas, Mts. M. M. Griffin of Pennsylvania, A{'W. Whaley of New York and W. M. Trotter of Massachusetts. U. S:-'DELEGATES’ VIEW « \OF CHINA-JAPAN PACT Believe Treaty Was Accepted Un< der Circumstances Which Prevent Its Wholesale Abrogation. A wholesale abrogation of the treaty embodyin; he twenty-one demands . of Japan for which China has appeal< i ed will not receive the support of the American _ delegates, it has been earped. The stand of the Ameri- \cans’is that any treaty into which | China -entered in her soverelgn ca- i pacity as an independent state can- not be made null and void in part or ‘|n its entirety by the action of the conference. However, it i8 understood that the . Americans will do all in their power to obtain voluntarily from Japan re- . linquishment of many concessions and ! speaial privileges obtained by the agreemeént to the twenty-one de- | mands, which have proved so oppres- sive and irksome to China in the de- velopment and growth of her country. The Americans believe that Japan i willing to go to great lengths to com:- ply with China’s requests for the amelioration of these conditions. Japan, it is pointed out, has agreed to the orlndglu expounded by Eliha Root that the several powers with - Interests in China shall “tespect the sovereignty, independence and terri- torial integrity of China and provide the fullest and most unembarrassed epportunities to China to d&:elop and maintain an effective and ble gov- ernment.” T believed that in liv- ing up to these pflnulgle- Japan will: have to forego a number of the spe- cial vflvlloin obtained in the twenty- one demands. FILIPINOS ADVOCATE . ISLAND INDEPENDENCE Resident Commissioners Declare Present Bropitious Time and [ See Menace Removed. nd dence for the Philippines :‘. lvocated yesterday. bf Jaime C. e Ve and Isairo Gabaldon,resi- dent lippine commissioners, who, in statements forwarded to President and members of the Senate and se, deolared that “world events make the present time pro- pitious” for tha granting: of inde- pendence. . The commissioners oontended that the four-power treaty relating to the “removes any real cause of SE L Fhilipplag repnbs They aiso referred to the ac- tiorn of Great Britain in offering to make Ireland & free state as ‘“marking to subject |applies only to the WORLD SOLIDARITY SEEN IN FOUR-PO Tardieu Declares It St Faith Among Na BY ANDRE TARDIEU, Former French High Commissiomer to America. By Cable to The Star. PARIS, December 17.—Inclusion of France in the four-power treaty agree- ment concerning the Pacific Islands is, of course, welcome news here, but French opinion does not attach to it tae exceptional importance that seems to be attributed to it in the United States. This difference, which is one of degree only, is quite natural, for a Frenchman thinks of the great importance of the French possessions in Indo-China, and holds taat it would have been incon- ceivable to arrive at such an under- standing among three nations only— United States, Great Britain and Japan without consulting France and ob- taining her adhesion. As to the agreement itself, there can be no objection to it in France since it is founded on the maintenance of exist- ing right. But there is a tendency to consider it rather timid. first because it islands, whereas China, walch is 1ot covered by the treaty. is the prinvipal reservoir of fu- ture conflicts. And timidity again ap- pears to charactecize the reservations made on_Decembcr 13 by the United States. The view widely taken here is that it is not the worde of the text, but the good will and good faith of the signatories that constitute the chief value of such agreements. Skeptical of Treatien. France unreservedly approves the spirit behind this treaty. Perhaps be- cause of her long sufferings, certainly because of her complex history, France believes in frank mutual explanations between nations, As for formal texts, the happenings of the past two years have rendered her skeptical of them. France asks only for assur- ance, and is therefére pleased to see a- center of important trade routes and international communications made the subject of frank, open ex- planations. Evidently the conferees had to avoid certain essential difficulties. It is the law of these conferences that they must succeed quickly or not suc- ceed at all. Yet the sincere determ SIBERIA MURDERER DUETOREACHU.S. Seminoff, Cossack Terror, Reported Arranging to Leave Shanghai. BY JUNIUS B. WOOD. Ataman Gregorie Seminoff, reputed to be the greatest murderer in Siberia, is due in the United States in five weeks, accogding to word received by Boris Brasol who is in Washing- ton as the “Russian monarchical delegation to the United States.” Private cables also received by Amer- icans say that Seminoff Is now mak- ing arrangements in Shanghai to have his passport vised to leave for this country. At tfle State Depart- ment it was said yesterday that no ap- plication had been cabled for entry of the notorious Cossack, a necessary preliminary before any American con- sul may vise a Russian passport. In some quarters it is explained that as Seminoff is politically opposed to bolshevism, he is entitled to entry into the United States. Fortunes on Deecline. Since his flight from Chita in an airplane, deserting his troops a year ago, the fortunes of the self-styled “chief of all the Cosacks” have been on the decline. For a time he main- tained a gorgeous barbaric establish- ment of reveiry, wine and women, in Tsingtao, under Japanese protection. The Japanese also stationed the rem- nants of his army near Viadivostok, which was then held by the Chita government. When the word was given last May for them to overthrow the Chita authorities, Semionoft set sail for Vladivostok. Despite the pro- test of the consuls of fifteen nations, including Japan, against his landing in that city, he left the ship and was escorted to the Cossack camp by Japanese troops. Refused Havea by Chinese. The protest was so general against his presence that a cash payment was made to him, and he went to Shanghal. The Chinese refused to permit him to live there, and he sought refuge in the French settlement. At one time Semionoft was reported to _have $40,000,000 in gold, jewels and other loot from Siberia deposited in Japan and China. Most of it was smuggled out by his companion, “Mirzka, the Gypsy,’ who by his orders was made head of the Amer- ican’ Red Cross distribution work in Chita. A substantial portion of his fortune was settled on her, and an other allotment was given to his wife and son, who were sent from Con- stantinople to Japan through the as- sistance of the Japanese militaty mis- sion located in the Turkish city. After that the chieftain married an eight- een-year-old Russian girl, dispensing with the young officer to whom she was betrothed, it is said, by the usual method. Name Terror in Siberia. Semionoff, who, according to the American Army intelligence reports, served an apprenticeship as a hold-up man in lawless Harbin, became head- man of the Zaibaikal tribe of Cos- sacks at the time of the Kolchak movement. Later he was chosen head: man of the Amurski and Ussur{ tribe: though the other four tribes in 8 beria never electaed him, while the Don and larger tribes in European Russia refused to acknowledge him. He assumed the title of headman of all the Cossacks which had been held by the czarevitch, and after the death of Kolchak styled himseif “supreme ruler. Before Kolchak's death the atrocities of his undisciplined men had made Semionoff’s name a terror in Siberia. Men, women and children were tortured, killed and robbed for the purpose of in- spiring respect for the anti-bolsheviki movement, the usual method being to strip all victims befors they were_ex- ecuted and send their clothes to Chita to be sold as charity. erican officers told of 300 persons being executed in one fleld to celeoraie s Russian holiday and of entire train- loads of victims locked in to die of star- vation. Seminoft’s exploit which strained his relations with the American expedition in Siberia was the night attack on an American _camp, killing and wounding several soldiers, by one of his armored trains. Col. C. H. Morrow, commanding the 27th Regiment of Infantry, and a brother of the governor of Kentucky, captured the train and in the ensuing investigation elicited from the officers and men & nonchalant account of mur- ders and outrages. Seminoff, how- ever, forced the release of his sub- ordinates. (Copyright, 1921.) e PUT IN WHITE HOUSE HEAT. NEW ORLEANS, December 17.— John Ponder, seventy-two, chief e; gineer at a loeal hospital for the past_fifty-one years and who super- vised the installation of the first steam heating system in the White House at Wi ngton in the early 80's, died &t hix home here 1ste today. i THis SUNDAY STAR, WASHINGTON, WER TREATY ep in Right Direction. France Puts Reliance on Evidences of tions Concerned. nation to arrive at really Important decisions was e One of them was the dissolution of the Anglo- Japanese alliance. This was a splen- did victory for American diplomacy, a victory that will become definitive 80 soon as the causes for the present groupings of powers shall disappear. Step Toward Solidarity. ‘Whether American adversaries of the Versailles treaty like it or mnot, the new pact is a return toward the international solidarity, which the Senate_so emphatically rejected in 1919. Mr. Borah has not been slow in making his complaint as a con- sequence. But this time Mr. Lodge is a party to the contract. It Is true that the new agreement contains no imperatives and does not commit the signers to anything very tremendous, and this fact permits so notorious an adversary of Wilsonian ‘“entangl ments” as Mr. Lodge to sign it. But the irreconciliables, as it appears here, are grouping against it because, timid as it is, it is a step toward international solidarity. 1t is the policy of the French na- tion, in view of this internal conflict in America, to maintain a friendly but punctilious reserve. Even when France's vital interests have been at stake she has never been so indiscreet as to interfere and try to intiuence America’s course. The four powers have been pleased to sign the Pacific islands accord, and France sees no reason to believe that any of them will refuse to ratify it. Says France Is Not “Nervous.” Meanwhile, instead of seeking hy- pothetical sources of discord among the allied and assoclated nations, let us_unitedly turn our eyes toward the side from which the common menace corfes. Daily the German press pub- lishes aggressive discourses attacking the territorial, military and financial clauses of the treaty. Kome of our good friends call us nervous. They are wrong. We are not nervous, but we are not blind or deaf, either. France is as anxious as any power to arrive at the government of the world through peace treaties, but she sees in Germany's present frame of mind the principal obstacle to such a course. This is the view of the man in_the street in France. If anybody tells you the contrary, refuse to be- lieve it. (Copyright, 1921.) TERMS UNSETTLED Japanese Effort to Provide for Payments Over Long Period Opposed. By the Associated Press. Progress made during the past few days toward a settlement of control of the Tsingtau-Tsinanfu railway in the Kiaochow leasehold was inter- rupted somewhat today when the Chinese and Japanese delegates, in their conversations on the question of Shantung, failed to reach an agree- ment on the period over which pay- ment for the road by China should be spread. . The ‘delay in reaching a final set- tlement, however, was expected to be but temporary, as the Japanese dele- gation was said to have agreed to re- consider its proposal for instaliments covering twenty years. China Would Pay Casl China maintained today her posi- tion that she should be permitted to pay the 63,000,000 gold German marks plus permanent Ffmprovements, in cash or within three vears, as a-com- promise. Japan's reasons for long de- ferred payments were sald by the Chinese delegates to be based in the desire of that country to retain a financial control of the road so long as_possible. In addition, Japan Is understood to have propused that she should ap- point the general traffic manager, chief engineer and accountant dur- ing the twenty years' payment period. This has met with objection on the part af the Chinese, who contend that Japan would thus not only have financial control, but virtual physi- cal and administrative control as well. . Statement Isaued. The following statement was issued by the two delegations after the meeting today: “The fifteenth meeting of the Chinese and Japanese delegations relative to the question of Shantung was held in the Pan-American Union bullding at 3 p.m. “There was a further interchange of views on the question of the Tsingtai-Tsinanfu railway. “The meeting adjourned at 6: p.m., until Monday afternoon at 3 oclock. REASSURES JAMAICANS. British Agent Says U. 8. Will Not Retaliate for Preferences. KINGSTON, Jamaice, December 17. —Maj. Wood, replying to a deputa- tion of Jamaicans relative to his vis- it of inquiry into economic and politi- cal conditions in the West Indies on behalf of the British government, de- clared that Jamaica need fear no re- tallation by the United States for glvinz preference to Canadian and ritish products imported here. 3 Jamaica, he added, was part of the British empire and should maintain the essential unity of the empire, The colony had a perfect right to give preference to Canadian. and United Kingdom products, as the United States gave to_ those of her com- ponent states. If the United States government should retaliate he said t.'x:; British government would inter- PAY HONOR TO KING. Alexander’s Birthday Noted in Service at Cathedmal. In honor of the birthda; Alexander and at the e ?‘r”{( ":5 Slavko Grouitch, minister of Croats and Blovenes, a special service of prayer ang thanksgiving was held E;mrdn.y afternoon at the Bethlehem apel, Washington Cathedral. The Servics was conducted by Dean Bra- Camon Talbot. ang otnar aranc et W%:‘mféu%n dw“;g«ur Sereyjoto © Serbian flag was carri processional and recessional” ar g‘x: full cathedral choir rendered the “Mag- music, including an anthem, a;:f;t. Y::tda:ém Serbian national an- . lay was the the Serbian kln:’. ithiayiet ———— LIBERALS FREE PRISONERS Guatemalan Political Offenders Given Liberty. All political prisoners under the liberal administration which recently overthrew the unionist administration in Guatemala have been set free with the exdeption of the minister of public works, according to a message received last night by Julio Bianchi, the minister of the former administration ere. No details beyond the brief announce ment were given in the memsage: CHINESE RAILWAY | Mme. Edgar Prochnik, wife of the new charge d’affaires of the Austrian embassy, and thelr youngsters, taking They are Valerie, age five; Edgar, Jr., age one and a haif; Mra. Prochnik and Loranda, age ten. Sidelights on the Conference In signing the four-powdr treaty islands each of the American, British, French and Itallan plenipotentiaries treaty immediately alongside of his name his own personal seal. seals were some of them made with seal rings and others with the seals attached to watch fobs. geals bore merely the initials of the delegate. and others the family crest. Viviani's seal car- Viviani, 's seal, as did that of former Senator Root and the English delegates, bore the family crest. largest of these seals was that of Prince Tokogawa of Japan, carrying The prince is a decendant of the old 8hoguns, rulers of Japan for more than three hundred years until the present form of government was developed in the island empire. “Aren’'t_children allowed in Was ington, don’t they have 'em here? ufied Lord Riddell of London, who is here in an official capacity as ob- server of the conference. He- insisted that he had scarcely lai child during the month he had been ‘Whereupon it was arranged that he should xee a Washington pub- This particular British lord is interested in children, and he watched the American youngsters as a morning stroll. PARLEY RESULTS PLEASE CANADIANS Conference Already Has More Than Justified Exist- ence, Opinion There. Special Dispatch to The Star. OTTAWA, December 17.—That the disarmament conference at Washing- ton has already more than justified its existence seems the opinion of most public men and editorial writers in Canada. Satisfaction is expressed at the reduction of capital ships and the institution of a naval holiday. Canadians anticipate objections in the United States Senate to_the rati- fication of the new treaty, but think it will pass. As Canada’s new parlia- ment does not get down to work un- til Febfuary or possibly March there will be no public discussion regard- ing what has been done at Washing- ton, but it meets with universal, or almost so, Canadian commendation. Alive to U. S. Good WL Some writers refer to Japan having kept full faith with Creat Britain, but on the other hand Canadians are fully alive to the importance of keep- ing” United States good will. They arc being reminded constantly “that they live right next to Americans, but several thousand miles from Japan Referring to the important issues that had to be dealt with at Wash- ington, the Montreal Gazette says “They are solved at a single stroke, or. at any rate, their peaceful solu- tion is answered by the new agree- ment which is coming_into being through the inspired efforts of the Washington conference. The success of the negotiations is all the more gratifying when it is remembered that Japan's acceptance of the invi- tation issued by President Harding was a conditional one, and that Ja- pancse co-operation seemed likely to be limited by reservations designed to give to Japan considerable free- dom of action in regard particularly to Chinese questions. A formal un- derstanding has been reached, which guarantees substantially the recog- nition of Chinese sovereignty and Chinese territorial integrity. Sees No Serious Obstacle. “A four-power treaty has been ar- ranged, with Great Britain, France, Japan and the United States as prin- cipals, under which the insular rights of these powers in'the Pacific are to be mutually respected, differences which cannot be settled through ordinary @iplomatic channels are to be made the subject of conferences, and the treaty is to have a life of ten years. “The new treaty must be ratified ac- cording to the constitutional procedure of the several participating nations be- fore it becomes effective. ‘That serious objection to such ratification will be forthcoming is unlikely as regards at least three of the powers concerned. Some opposition may be encountered in the Senate of the United States, in view of the undenia- ble fact that the treaty marks a dis- tinct departure from the traditional policy of the United Statés with regard to foreign alliances. The administra- tion will have, however, the support of public opinion and of a mejority in Congress, and it is noteworthy also that the new treaty has been sponsored in the conference by Benator Lodge, who was the most active and effective opponent of, the Versailles treaty and the league of nations and was largely responsible for the Senate's rejection of them.’ —_— PRECEDENT BACKS FRENCH SHIP MOVE (Continued from First Page.) another conference precedent, al- though they may not know it, for presenting their ten-ship estimate of France's naval needs on a basis of national security. When the gen- eral board of the American Navy was first directed to formulate a naval ratio plan as between the three lead- ing naval powers, it is understood a wholly different proposition was evolved from that presented by Sec- retary Hughes at the opening of the conference. Details have never been revealed as to this American naval expert proposal, but it is understood to have proposed a 10-10-5 fatio for Great Britain, the United States and Japan and the retention of many more cap- ital ships under comstruction than Hr. Hughes finally proposed to the conference. As it happens, whether designedly or not, the “5-5-3" American plan was an exact compromiss between American and Japanese naval expert views, resulting from the decision to make existing " strength, built and duilding, the basis of agresment and to scrap all projected building pre- grams without consideration. The same rule now has been proposed to sgovern expansion of the three- power agreement into a five-power treaty for naval limitation, coupled with & naval holiday of ten years. ‘What further modifications may be necessary before such an agréement 18 reached can develop only When the aftitude of the French goverament 18 D. ernors’ ers are meetings. There is no verbatim rec- ord of kept. kept ed wise tered by the delegates in these pri- te meetings taken down and pre- v served. by the delegates are merely in search information, of wrong impression perhaps of the at- titude of the delegate on the ques- tion under discussion All three of the delegates from the Netherlands to the W; ference developes that in Holland there are laws which compel all the youngsters to begin the study of French when they are eight they are nine they must begin the study of German and at ten they Snglish. wondered at that the Dutch delegates tackle are able the two official ‘Washington conference. PEAGE NECESSARY 10 GUARD RIGHTS Motaro Mochizuki Says It Is Required as Safeguard By the Associated Press. NEW YORK, December 17.—Main- tenance of peace in the territories of Inner Mongolia and North Manchuria i® necessary as a safeguard for Ja- pan's rights Motaro Mochizuki, an observer at the Washin day before setting out for Japan. Aggression from either of these ter- ritories, to bolshevik danger Japan's $2,250,000.000 South Manchurian investments, he said. Mr. Mochizuki expressed belief that the Japanese delegation’s presenta- tions of Japan's claims in the two The Washington conference does most of its Work in committee meet- ings, behind closed doors, in the gov- room in the Pan-American building. the limitation of armaments and on the far east meet there. But arrangements have been made for very full minutes, which are by the American eecretaries. From these minutes the official state- ments given out following the com- mittee meetings are made up. In this way a full record of the proceedings of the conference—meet- ing in committee—are kept and tained for history. But it was deem- , DECEMBER 18, 1921—PART T. ~ INTERESTING FAMILY OF NEW AUSTRIAN CHARGE D'AFFAIRES. The major committees on Stenograph- tabooed at these committee intimate these conferences rled only his crest. Too not to have every word ut- Many of the remarks made and would give a if quoted. b hington con- are capable linguists. It they gave 1e: vears old. When |dren san it is not to be to speak English and French, o languarges of the|James ure of in Manchuria. in South Manchuria, ton conference, declared to- which he said were subject influences, would en- But own soul, territories would be based upon the principle of the preferential rights acquired in 1915 through the treaty concluded by Viscount He sall 2ation of the Chinese Eastern railway ato. d he favored interhationali- with the exception of the Chon, chung-to-marbin should have the right of operation of this section, he asserted, sult of negotiations carried and with section. Japan as 4 re- the former Russian government for its purchase for $50,000,000. —_————— ZITA SAILS DECEMBER 26. FUNCHAL, Island of Madeira, De- cember 17.—Announcement as made to- day that former Empress Zita of Aus- tria-Hungary expects to start for Swit- zerland December 26. granted permission by the allied council of ambassadors and the Swiss govern- ment to ment of information service to take the place of Carl has also named Dr. Power, fof many years director of the ‘Wellcome Research Laboratory of London, the illness of her son. way of Lisbon. D ————— NEW POST FOR DR. E. D, BALL Dr. E. by Secretary of Agriculture Wallace as the representative of the Depart- position in memoratin ration of She was recently make the trip on account of She will go by ernments. D. Ball has been appointed|® hry e velopment Agticulture on the research L. Alsberg. The Secretary Frederick B. and now in charge of the hytochemical laboratory of the bu. guu of chémistry, as a representative of the bureau in the division of fed. eral relations in place of Dr. Alsber; C. AL Philadel; mittee, FOR XMAS FIRE SETS on the Pacific For instance M. Senator_Lodg lic school. ercises with much interest. £ same air a8 “God Save the King," then, for the special benefit of Lord Riddle, they piped up* Rule Britannia,” which visibly touched the English- The school he visited was the R. West School, of which Miss Blanche Patterson is principal ISEES SLUMP IN MORALS IF CONFERENCE FAILS the erica other nations to MR. HOOVER SEES REVIEW OF HUMANITY IN 1926 FAIR ously it is not a Philadelph! tion, but Philadelphia has the proper setting of all that American life that shou exposition to this city. it is a celebration of the American le, and the public at large must pr e attached to “R. V.”—Rene their salute to the Ame; flag and went through other ex- The chi. is the and ‘America,” which Mrs. Thomas G. Winter, Woman Adviser, Says Delegates Here Are Sincere. NEW YORK, December 17.—Fail- armament conference would cause the greatest moral slump in the history of the world, Mrs. Thomas G. Winter of Minneapolis, one of four women appointed by President Harding as an advisory committee to assist the American delegates, declared today in an ad- drese to the New York Federation of Women's Clubs. Mrs. Winter, who is president of the American federation of Women's Clubs, said delegates to the confer- ence were sincere in their efforts, “because they know war's horfors jand they know the only way to end war. Their attitude is one of hate for " she declare: “Wh doesn't exist for its Arm. there are militaristic nations that do. Am the leadefship of the world, and if she could find her she could assist has surel; nd theirs." Secretary Tells Philadelphians For- eigners Are Most Interested in Man’s Progress. PHILADELPHIA, December The proposed sesqul centennial et 1 Philadelphia in 1936, cos the signing of the Decl ndependence, should be demonstration of human progress within the last 60 vea: tary of Commerce Herbert Hoover in an address toda: “In order to make the exp: success,” Mr. Hoover said, “we must have the co-operation of foreign gov- Exhibitions of art, ma- chinery and industrial manufactures no longer attract foreign govern- ments, because they do not help in the sale of goods. are interested mostly in the human “My department is the one which must take & gréat interest in the de. Obvi- ques- of the enterprise. th" ne’-t"?! T, & member of the phia sesquicehtennial ocom- at a luncheon. Big stock at very low prices MUDDIMA Co. 616 12th St. & 1204 6 St. the These Some of the The eyes on a {le America and Navy, said Seore- The governments eat drama of ring the The fact is, FRANCE WANTS TO SAVE PRESTIGE AS SEA POWER Denial Made That She Plans a Program—=Submarine Aboli- tion Plea Causes Surprise. By the Associated Press. PARIS, December 17.—France has no definite shipbullding progrém, it in connection with the attitude of the French delegation at the Washington conference on the naval ratio ques- tion. The fact that she asks to be allowed to build up to 350,000 tons in capitol ships does not mean that she now plans a program of that sort, it was declared. France, however, which was formerly a naval power, desires to protect her prestige, it was explained. She co; siders the question of limitation doe not apply to her now, since her ton- nage in capital ships is far below that of powers of equal importance ‘whose necessity of naval strength is greater than hers at present. The report that the Britisir delega- tion at Washington is asking for sup- pression of ‘submarines has caused some surprise and skepticism in official quarters. France, it was asserted, was ready to discuss limitation of submarines, but was not prepared to accept thelr total abolition. LIKELY TO REACH RATIO AGREEMENT FOR FRENCH NAVY (Continued from First Page.) the privilege of building ten capital ships in the designated period of ten years from 19 he did say that an error had crept into the public di cussion of the matter, through a mis apprehension. France, he explained, has no intention of building capital ships, tomorrow, next week or next month. France is looking forward, in her demands, he said, to the time when a larger navy may be nhecessary to meet the needs of France. In a way, this statement seems to be the crux of the matter from the French point of view. They are not asking for the fixing of a naval ratio of 2.5 with a view to constructing immediately a lot of new vessels. But they are seeking for the right to build up a naval power, a right which they may or may not avail them- selves of. They make a distinction between the actual construction of these warships and the right to con- struct them. Actualities Are Preferred. But the Americans and the British, it is said, prefer to deal with actual- ities. The Washington conference has set about the settlement of the naval armament question, and in their view it must be settied much as it was settled in_the case of tire United States, Great Britain and Japan. France i not desirous of setting up as a great naval power, M. alled attention to the fact long be- fore the Washington conference was called, many years before. through its discussion of naval mat- race among the nations. practically all naval Since 1912 said. Atms in Doubt. asked in some quarters. Two an SWers to this question were made by observers here last night, which may or may not be correct. In the first place, it was said, if France yields on the matter of capital ship tonnage, and takes a ratio of 2 2.5, she may gain concessions with regard to submarine tonnage. Great Britain has begun a drive in the conference against submarines, and will ask for their total abolition. May Seek Guarantee. In the second pla to have included within the proposed treaty for the limitation of n: 1 tack. She may ask, it is suggested, that the treaty contain a clau her rights shall be “respected, that in the event of disputes arising there shall be consultation among the powers party to the treaty to discuss the matter and means that should be taken to settle such disputes, some- thing similar to article 2 of the Pacific treaty signed here this week. The Italian naval ratio will be set- tled by the conference along with that of France, of course. The Italtians, as they have maintained for weeks, are not desirious of building up a big navy, in fact they are opposed to it. But they do insist that their ratio shall be as large as that of France in any plan for the limitation of naval armaments. was sald in official ciroles hers today ! As an evidence of the fact that|’ France ters in parliament had made it clear they did not approve a naval building building by France had been at a standstill, he If France does not desire to con- struct these capital ships, what is it she does want? is the question being e, France may seek rmaments some guaranty against at- IDEFENDS FRANCE'S BIG MONEY ISSUE |Maurice Casenave, Secretary General of Delegation, Says Bills Are Necessary. By the Associated Pres. NEW YORK, December 18 —Issu- ance by the French government of 50,000,000,000 francs in treasury bilis was defended today by Maurice Case- nave, secretary general of the Frenca :elexlllun at the Washington confer- ne Speaking as guest of honor at i luncheon at the Lawyers' Club, M Casgenave, French high commissioner in America, said his government had been reproached for this issue, but declared it wus necessary to meet reparations costs and pensions. “A mobilization of such credits is proof of the confidence the Fremch people have in their own financial power,” he declared. Chauncey M. Depew, who intre duced M. Casenave, declared Ame ca’s loans to the aliies were being made “a foot ball of politics.” “A bad debt and an intolerable bu den” could be lifted by the openinz of foreign markets to give American farmers an outlet for products which they now were forced to sell Lelow cost, he said. FRANCE IS WILLING TO GRANT GERMANY EXTENSION ON DEBT ___ (Continued from “irst Page.) ard, Germany has offered to pay the allies on account the equivalent of £10,000,000 in January and £11.000,000 or £12,000,000 in February, or about half the actual sums due, but there is no confirmation, either from Paris or Berlin, that such an offer has been made. M. Briand, however, it is learned, received the German ambas- sador at Paris, who made certain ex- planations, and it is considered pos- sible the offer was made then. That there are only two alternatives is the common opinion here—either to grant a moratorium or insist that Germany is able to pay, the latter probably entailing the fall of the Ger- man government. The reparations commission, it is pointed out, may in- sist under article 234 of the treaty of Versaillex that Germany provide proof of her inability to pa Favers Annulling Pension Debt Premler Briand, Minister of Liber- ated Regions Loucheur and the gen- eral secrowry of the French foreign office, M. Burthelot, are expected to arri i ondon Sunday _night. e French financial vith them. the British rep- tative in the reparations com- mis/ion, it is reported in certain quar- terfi, favors annulling the debt for wditary pensions. This would be a course approved by the liberal and iabor parties here, who throughout have contended that it was unjust to iemand that Germany pay the allied pensions. It is thought that Monday's meeting must result in another convening of the supreme council =peedi some decision to present to must be made before the middle of January, when the installment is due, Briti ¥ Agree. Views, said toWlmanate from au- thoritative quarters. are expressed that the British government would be ready to forego its claim on Ger- man payments already in the hands of the reparations commission, the bulk of which is (v come to England under the August agreement, which France has not vet ratified, and also withdraw any objections to the Wies- baden agreement if France, on her side, is ready to take a course more in accordance with the ideas of the British_government. The French government is said to be in favor of a rald on the Reichs- bank’s gold reserve. There have been reports that Germany Is even willing to place part of the reserve under allied control as security for an ternational loan if one can be ar- ranged. <The teport is persistent that Mr. Lloyd George intends to press for n international conference, to include both Germany and Russia, and, if pos- sible, the United States, in order to get a rearrangement on broad lines of the whole European financial re- lations, in the belief it would be the best means of restoring trade and re- lieving unemployment. He also i represented as ready to grant France considerable concessions in the shape of priority in reparations if thereby he can induce her to meet his views. NS WHY rese; 22 @mso W, fon a WE number of years. 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