The Daily Worker Newspaper, December 22, 1931, Page 2

Page Two Celebrate 8 Years DAILY WORKE R, NEW YORK, TUESDAY. D ECEMBER 22, 1931 of Daily Worker’s Fight on Capitalism Daily Worker Leads Struggle Against Govern- ment Terror Against Foreign Born Workers! More 16,000 workers deported In 1930! Over 18,000 than foreign born, foreign born workers deported in the first nine months of 1931 alone! In~ creasing persecution In the form of more deportation, registration, finger- printing and intimidation on the or- der of the day! Against this campaign, and the propaganda for it carried in the capi- talist press, stands the only all-Eng- lish national revolutionary daily pa~- per in the United States, the Daily Worker. For eight years it has ex- posed the lies of the boss papers. Through eight stormy, years it has tood like a rock of Gibraltar for the foreign born workers against every attempt at persecution and terror. On January 3, at the Bronx Coli- seum, the eighth anniversary of the Daily Worker will be celebrated with a revolutionary program of pageantry, music and dramatics. Every worker in New York, particularly the foreign born workers must jam the floor of the Bronx Coliseum'on January 3. Rally behind the paper of the fight- ing working class! Turn out for the Daily Worker Anniversary! Bring your friends and shop mates with you! The program includes among other features a pageant, “The Trial of the Yellow Press”, and presentations by the International Chorus and Red Dancers. Admission at the door is 35 cents and 25 cents with the coupons that are being distributed now. Office Workers Union Charge BigBossesDriveGirlsInto Streets Low Wages and Mass Layoffs Effect Thou- sands of Office Girls, Says Union In Letter NEW YORK.—In an open letter to| son, president of the Merchants As- the Committee of Fourteen, the Of- fice Workers’ Union, over the signa- ture of E. Rosen, secretary, answered the appeal for funds for jobless work- | ing ris that appeared in the New York Times of December 21, 1932, | exposing leading capitalists on char- | ity organizations as being in the fore- front in discharging girls and cutting | their wages. The letter follows in| ull: | “This morning’s Times printed on its front page an appeal ad- | dressed to the citizens of New York | City for the support of the cam- | paign against vice conditions. “As the spokesman for thousands of Office Workers in the City of New York, the majority of whom are young girls who are seriously affected by the unemployment and wage cuts of the present depres- sion, we wish to publicly answer your appeal. | “We note that among your c: mittee of 14, are representativ organizations who are directly sponsible for the conditions which you attempt to expose. Mr. Straus, of the firm of BR. H. Macy & Co., can inform you that the wages paid to the girls of that department ‘ore are just enough to keep them f the streets. Mr. Smull, pr dent of the Chamber of Commerce of the state of New York, Mr. Wat- sociation of New York City, can give you first-hand information as to the miserable earnings of office workers in our city. The conditions about which you complain are a direct result of the fact that with- out regar das to whether ‘a girl can subsist on the wage paid her, the depression is used as an excuse for continuous wage cuts, even though the particular organization may be making profits, as is the case with R. H. Macy & Com- pany “your appeal is signed by Mr. Smull and Mr. Watson and sand- hed in between are Cardinal es, Rabbi Krass, Reverend Fos- dick and Bishop Manning. These reverend gentlemen have a daily opportunity to expose the organiza- tions in our city by name who are not paying a living wage to the girls in New York. “We particularly call the atten- tion of these gentlemen to the fact that an announcement from the pulpit that National Bellas Hess pays its girls $5 to $6 a week would have more of an effect on check~- ing vice conditions than a general appeal to the public. “If your committee is really anxious to liquidate the present vice conditions, it must openly in- sist, that the girls of our city be paid a living wage.” PERTH AMBOY CITY GOV'T VOTES HALF OF BUDGET TO BONDHOLDERS PERTH AMBOY, N. J.—Almost one-half of the budget of this city, which amounted to $1,484,537 for 1932, was scheduled to go to stock/ ‘and bondholders as interest payments | whi the unemployed were left to starve. The budget came up for pas- seve yesterday. There are more unemployed, yet appropriations for the so-called poor for 1932 is $17,980 as compared to $18,000 in 1931, a decrease of $520. ‘There are more workers sick and im need of medical care, and yet ap- propriations for the City Hospital is $7,500 for 1932, as compared to $15,000 in 1931, a cut of 50 per cent. More children are undernourished and suffering from malnutrition this year than last year, due to the ef-/ fects of the worsening crisis, and yet | in the 1931 budget $750 was approp-; Tiated for the Kiddie Keep Well Camp, while in 1932 budget not one cent is appropriated for the “Kiddies” | Camp. This camp is where under- nourished children from all cities in| Middlesex County are supposed to be | taken during the summer—during school vacation. “Perth Amboy is a city of 48,000 TUESDAY Drug Clerks, Attention! A special meeting will be held by the Medical Workers’ _ League at 108 E. lith St., Room 202, at 3 p.m, N Will be held on Dec, 22 at 2 p.m at 108 B. 14th Bt., third floor, Dele- gate of the National Hunger on Washington to speak aaa NK March Needle Trad: Athletic Club Will have a general meeting at the union headquarters, 131 W. 28th St 6:30 p.m. Needle workers welcomé Brownsville Alteration Pointers Will have « meeting at 1813 Ptt- fh Ave, Brooklyn, at 8 p.m, oe Unemployed Office Workers Will have a ting this afternoon *2 p.m, at $0 B. 11th St. in Room 303 Mosbolu Parkway 1.L.D, Wil! meet ton at 3999 Dicken gon Ave. Apt Workers are invite WEDNESDAY Hotel and Restaurant Workers Will hear the report of a hotel worker delegate to the National Hunger March at Bryant Hall, 42nd St, and Sixth Ave. Admission free. pm. All Mooney Mass Meet Will be held at Hunt’s Point Pal~ ace, Bronx, at 8 p.m., under the aus- “pices of the Otto Korvin Branch, 1, ‘iq D, Carl Haeker to speak, . W.LR. Brass Band Will hold its regular rehearsa) at the Cherniveky Club, 122 Second Ave, (hetween 7th and 8th Sts,), Dec. 23, ut 3 p.m, New players welcome, Bie: Hunger March Report | “Wil be given at the Rockaway giarston, 696 Rockaway Ave, Dec. at 8 p, Ps Cee igs 8 ' population. It is the “Industrial Metropolis” of Middlesex County. In the city are located large copper works, cable, lead, Guggenheim’s American Smelting & Refining Co., as well as roofing, chemical, bakelite, cigar, shirt, hat, handkerchief, pot- tery and other plants and factories. More than 5,000 are unemployed. Many more work part time. Prac- tically all shops got wage cuts, and reductions of 10 per cent and one per cent or more of their wages to “help the unemployed.” Conditions in the city are frightful. Many are in dire need and only a handful get a mere pittance. The Unemployed Council here, among other things, is demanding the turning over of the $632,064 in- tended for interest to the bankers and bondholders be turned over to the unemployed for relief. The answer of the City Commis- sioners to the above demands, to- gether with a report of the Perth Amboy delegates to the Hunger March to Washington will be given at a mass meeting to be held Wednes- day, Dec. 23rd, at the headquarters of the Unemployed Council, 101 Fayette St., at 7:30 p.m. At this meeting plans will also be laid ‘for building a strong Unemployed Council and pre- paring for the Feb. 4th demonstra- tions and for sending a strong Perth Amboy delegation to the hearing on the Middlesex County Budget to be held in New Brunswick, Dec, 29th. Needle Union to Celebrate Third Year January 1 (CONTINCED FRO PAGE ONE) Gefense of the interests of the work- ers. The Industrial Union is the only union in this country which has car- ried through a real united front of the workers, has won considerable improvements in the conditions of thousands of fur workers, is organiz- ing and preparing the dressmakers for a strike under rank and file lead- ership and is leading the struggle of the workers everywhere for union conditions. “The three years of existence of the Needle Trades Workers Industrial Union is @ testimonial to the fighting spirit of the needle trades workers. It shows that through unity and mili- tant struggle the workers can fight and win better conditions. The third anniversary of the Industrial Union will sound the signal for mobiliza- tion to lead the coming struggles of the needle trades workers to victory.” RED SPARK TEAM PICKED TO WIN SOCCER TOURNEY Soccer League Games Next Sunday for the “Young Worker” After winning en consecutive games the Red Spark “A” team was held to a 2—2 tie by the Tico A. C. in a Metropolitan Warkers’ Soccer League match on Sunday. The downtown eleven are strong favorites te cop the championship, but with Spartacus A. C. pressing hard on their heels, and Tico and Neckwear A. C. not far behind, the Red Sparks will have to hustle to accomplish the feat. The Maltese Rangers continue to lead the “B” Division by a smal] mar- gin. Close behind them are the Sons of Malta and the Red Spark A. C. ‘The Pirates, trouncing Brownsville 3—4, are still atop the “C” Division. A feature of next Sunday's sched- ule will be the benefit game for the oung Worker, arranged by the Met- ropolitan Workers’ Soccer League, to take place at, Dyckman Oval. The proceeds will go to the oung Worker to help insure its regular appearance as a fighting organ for the bettering of the working conditions of young workers in the shops, mines, mills and factories. Admission to the field is only 25 cents and the first game starts at 11 am. The results of last Sunday's games: Metropolitan Workers’ League DIVISION A Italian Americans, 1, Olympic, 0. Neckwear, 3; Falcon, 1. Red Spark, 2; Tico, 2. Spartacus, 6; Juvenile. 0. DIVISION B Armenians, 4; Neckwear, 0. Ital-Americans, 1; Sons of Malta, 0. Harlem Prog., 2; Red Sparks, 1. Jack Gordon, 3; Mt. Vernon, 0. Maltese Rangers, 2; Alb. Adilena, 2. Spartacus, 1; Estonian Workers, 1. DIVISION C Needle Trades, 2; Hero, 0. Crotona A. C., 1; Downtown Workers, 0. Red Spark A.C., 5; Adriatics, 0. Williamsburg Workers, 1; Pros- pect, 0. Dauntless, 2; East N.Y., 2. Pirates, 3; Brownsville, 0, E. Side Workers, 1; Harlem Prog., 0. Cancer Deaths Among Workers Rises 5.2 P. C. The direct, effect of the crisis upon the health of the workers is seen in the announcement of the Metropoli- tan Life Insurance Co. that the can- cer death rate among workers rose by 52 per cent during the first nine months of the year. The sharp ef- fect on workers’ health is brought out by the fact that among the general population, which includes both rich and poor, the increase was only 3 per cent. The Metropolitan Life nsurance Co. adds that the analysis they made show that the “digestive tract” was most affected. In other words, star- vation and bad food, is the cause in the rise of this dread disease. This rise in cancer only tells a fragment of the story, as medical [Socialist Justice Jails Workers for Fighting Evictions (By a Worker Correspondent) SVANSVILLE, Ind.—One of our socialists here, William A. Folz by name, the justice of the peace, is working hard nowadays, setting the furniture of unemployed work- ers who cannot pay their rent out in the street. When he has the furniture put out the comrades from the Unemployed Council pat it back in the house again. So- cialist Folz then puts the tenant in jail for no cause at all. Said socialist Folz: “I will stop! the reds from putting an evicted tenant back in the house if Ihave to put all the reds in jail.” I am afraid they will have to| build more and bigger jails in this town, for the Unemployed Coun- cil is growing and the comrades will not stand for workers to be thrown out of their homes. Marchers Report in Long Branch 100 Hear 1 Delegates Tell of Solidarity LONG BRANCH, N. J.—About 100 workers, the majority of them Negroes listened to the report given by the local delegates to the National Hun- ger March. One marcher vividly de- scribed the solidarity between the white and Negro workers on the march. On hearing how the chief of police of Baltimore was forced to draw back his Jim Crow rules and apologize to the marchers, those pres- ent applauded enthusiastically. The conditions of the unemployed in this city was discussed at the meet- ing. There are over 2,000 without jobs. The city government does nothing and the only relief is the old stale, rotten food given by a charity outfit to a few workers. Even in this miserable handout the Ne- gro workers are discriminated against. There is a job registration line where some jobs are given for a day or two. If a worker has previously received some charity slop he is forced to work a day or two for noth- ing. At the meeting 19 workers joined the local branch of the Un- employed Council. Shoe Workers Union Arranges Dance for Thurs. December 24 NEW YORK.—A dance to raise funds to carry forward organizational work has been arranged by the Shoe and Leather Workers’ Industrial Union for Thursday, December 24th at the Empire Hall, .6 Ten Eycke St., 1,000 Workers Back Strike of|Protest Murder of Portland Postal | Messengers PORTLAND, Ore., Dec. 21.—One of the biggest and most militant demon- strations was held here Thursday to back up the strike of the Postal Tele- graph messenger who are. fighting against a 25 per cent wage cut. Wages are down to $1 to $1.25 a day Over a thousand workers asseinbled with the striking messengers at the Civic Emergency Committee which was furnishing scabs to ‘break the strike. When the workers protested this action, the bosses at the Civic Emergency Committee, which op- erates under Gifford’s national com- mittee, complained that they had to operate, according to the city or- dinance which required them to fur- ; nish workers whether there was a strike or not. It is significant that the Postal Telegraph Co. is con- trolled by the International Tele- phone and Telegraph Co. a subsidiary of the American Telephone & Tele- graph Co., which is headed by Wal- ter Gifford. From the Civic Emergency Com- mittee the workers marched to the main office of the Postal Telegraph Co. There the crowd grew to about 3,000. Several of the strikers spoke and told of the conditions, not only the wage cut but charges for uni- forms, and all responsibility for acci- dents on the messengers themselves, The present cut is the sixth cut in a year and a half. According to information this cut is part of a nationwide cut, This strike in Port- land should be the signal for like action all over the country. Out of this strike will develop a union of the messengers affiliated to the Trade Union Unity League which should include all others in the com- panies. ‘The demonstration ended at the police station at Second and Oak Sts., where the arrest of two workers for distributing leaflets was protested. “KTECING TO LIVE” BRINGS US SOME- THING NEW IN SOVIET FILMS Now here is something new. If longer exploited by other men, giant some of us-began to think that the] socialized undertakings are possible— Soviet films were beginning to sort of | You see part of the Dnieprostroy dam. run to a type, with the later ones only improvements over the earlier, history-making productions, we get our answer here in the Amkino re- lease, “Killing to Live,” running at the Cameo, Soviet ingenuity is not dead or even sleeping. There for the first time, and there only, they put actual work- ers and the general population into the pictures. Now the Shock Bri- gade of the Educational Film Studio of Suyuzkino has started out to illus- trate the Marxian precept: “Philoso- phers have only explained the world, what is needed now is to change the world.” And their present effort has a cast of plants, wild animals, birds, fish, bugs—and finally men—as re- makers of the world. All the first part of the film is de- voted to: knocking out the back-to- nature freak’s sentimentalities. Sure, you could go back to nature, after seeing this picture, but you would do it with a knowledge of the ruling spirit in nature, which is: “Kill or be killed; eat the other fellow or he will eat you.” The frog eats the butterfly, the snake eats the frog and the mongoose eats the snake—the Picture of this shock brigade shows it all. It shows the competitoin of grasses and plants for sun and grow- ing space and the fierce battles of male animals for possession of the female, The pictures are excellent, on the whole, and you wonder how they got them. ‘These are not caged animals. Brooklyn, corner of Lorimer St. All workers are urged to come, Workers’ Correspondence fs the backbone of the revolutionary press. Build your press by writing for it about your day-to-day struggle. experts state that the effects of | undernourishment begins to be seen clearly years later affecting whole generations of the working-class. [AMUSEMENTS THE THEATRE GUILD presents EUGENE O'NEILL'S Trilogy Mourning Becomes Electra Composed of 3 playg presented on 1/day HOMECOMING, THE HUNTED THE HAUNTED Commencing at 5:30 sharp, Dinner In- termission of one hour at 7. No Mats. GUILD THEA., 524 St., W. of Bway The: Theatre Guild Presents REUNION IN VIENNA A Comedy . By ROBERT E, SHERWOOD. Fs THEA. it Martin Beck fU e's. 402 Eve. 8:40Mats,Thurs.,Fri,@Sat. MUSIC | ——————— George T. Bye presents the Juilliard School of Music Production of Turn daily sales into carrier routes, carrier routes into subscriptions. ACK AND BEANSTALK A fairy opera for the children ORCHESTRA of 36 Conducted |by 4 ALBERT STOESSEL t 44th St. THEATRE, West of Bw: Eva. 8:30, Matinees Wed., » & PHILIP MERIVALE CYNARA WITH Henry Phoebe Adriane STEPHENSON FOSTER ALLEN MOROSCO THEA., 45th W. of B'way, Liven. 8145, Mats. Wed. & Sat., 3:30 BCAMEO oy,.0: 21 Sa" 25e “KILLING TO LIVE” A New Type of Nature Film from U, 8. 8. R. SPECIAL NEWS REEL 14TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE » OCTOBER REVOLUTION showing at 3 p.m, 5 p.m, 8:45 p.m and 10:35 p.m. HIPPODROME 17%. BIGGEST SHOW IN NEW YORK BKO ee acts | ‘Suicide Fleet’ nel. wi gonx¥. | BILL FLOYD COLORLITE DANCE Adm. at door 35¢. COMMITTEE Luncheonette—Entire week midnight and Suppers with 8-Day Carnival! to celebrate the completion of the NEW YORK WORKERS’ CENTER December 24 to 31 in the Center, 35 East 12th Street THURSDAY—X-MAS EVE.— Admission at the door 40 cents FRIDAY, DEC. 25—ANTI-RELIGIOUS NITE Performed by the Proletarian Cultural Fed. SUNDAY, 8 P. M—RED BANQUET FOR CENTRAL * Delegates from all rey. organizations. Prominent Speaker of Carnival; 11 a. m. to Music and Entertainment, The alligators swim in a swamp and catch a wild duck. The hawk swoops down out of the sky and claws a rabbit, then you see her feeding her voracious young in a lofty nest. Once in a while there is a little distortion—‘ perhaps telescopic lenses were used for some of the pictures. Sometimes they are absolutely clear. You can see the glare in the eyes of a bob- cat after a chipmunk, as real as the scowl on the brow of a Tammany cop slugging a woman, ‘The helplessness of natural wild life before fire, draught and flood is shown. ‘Then is shown Man, the re-maker of the world. Where Man has re- gained what he lost when he ceased to be a wild animal; when Man is no Intern’) Workers Order | _ DENTAL DEPARTMENT 1 UNION SQUARE 8TH FLOOR All Work Done Under Persona) Care of DR. JOREPMSON Cooperators’ Patronize SEROY CHEMIST _ 657 Allerton Avenue O1-2-7584 Bronx, x. y. | Phone: Dry Dock 4-4522 Harry. Stolper, OPTICIANS yes Examined 73-758 CHRYSTIE STREET Cor. Hester St. New York OPTI N for International Workers’ Order SOLLINS’ RESTAURANT 216 EAST 14TH STREET 6-Course Lunch 55 Cents Regular Dinner 65 Cents MELROSE DAIRY VEGETARIAN RESTAURANT Comrades Will Always Find it Plensant Dine at te Our Place. 1182 SOUTHERN BLVD. Bronx (near 174th St. Station! TELEPHONE INTERVALE ” pnoreo Rational Vegetarian Restaurant \99 SECOND AVENUE Ret, 18th and 13tb Sts. Strictly Vegetarian food You also see how workers take over and guide the blind forces of evolu- tion, producing in a few years changes it would take nature a mil- | lion to make. You see wheat that yields 25 times as much grain as the original wheat did; chickens that lay 12 times as many eggs as the parent stock, and those eggs twice as large. ‘You see marino sheep with enormous coats of wool as compared with the wild sheep. Well, nature would prob- ably never make these particular Changes at all. The lesson of the film is that socialized man can tap enormous forces, of which Humanity has so far only begun to stratch the surface. —V. S. Paterson, Trade Union nity Leacne Onens Drive in Metal, Bldg. NEWARK, N, J.—With.a new union center soon to open at 75 Springfield Aye. the Trade Union Unity League in this territory is beginning an or- ganization drive for the building of | the industrial unions, affiliated to the T. U, U. L. At the last ‘membership meeting Wednesday night it was decided that for the coming few months work will be concentrated on the metal and building industries, Make the Daily Worker subscrip- tion drive a part of all revolutionary activity, Chinese Students Tonight at 8 P. M. As a demonstration of their solid- arity with the 80,000 revolutionary Chinese students who stormed the ¢ity of Nanking last weck in a protest against the Kuomintang government of China, the New York Students League of college students is holding a mass meeting this Tuesday evening at 8 p.m, in the North Study Hall of the School of Commerce, New York University, Washington Sq. ‘This meeting will protest the bru- tal shooting down of Chinese stu- dents and workers by the new hang- man of the Chinese masses, the Eu- gene Chen government. The speakers will be Chang Su Fang, revolutionary Chinese student; Joshua Kunitz, author and lecturer; Mac Gordon, New York Student League. WAVE OF BANK ° FAILURES R OB WORKERS’ CASH NEW YORK.—A new series of bank failures hitting tens of thousands of depositors have been reported in the last few days in the various cities, One of the outstanding bank crashes is the closing of the Standard Trust Bank in Cleveland, O., with $14,000,000 in deposits tied up. This bank was one of the institutions orig- inally established by the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers, headed then by Warren S. Stone. The labor fak- ers, along with Green and Woll made thousands out of establishing these banks, and now they are crashing, robbing workers out of their last hard earned pennies. In Chicago a number of banks have failed. The most recent are as follows: Ashland State Bank, deposits $1,800,000; Maywood State Bank, de- Posits, $1,100,000; Park Ridge State Bank, deposits $1,000,000; . Melfore Park State Bank, deposits $2,000,000. The Connecticut River National Bank in Charleston, N. H., closed de- priving depositors of $400,000. COUNCIL IN RED HOOK WINS RELF NEW YORK—The newly-organized. Red Hook Unemployed Council in Brooklyn has already established its prestige as an organization that. fights and wins. Last Friday a delegation from the Council and nine families went to the local charity organiza- tion for immediate relief for these JAMAICA JOBLESS HEAR REPORT ON HUNGER MARCH Sixty Join Council to Continue Fight for Jobless Relief NEW YORK.—Over 200 workers, half of whom were Negroes, jammed into the large court room in the old Town Hall at Jamaica, to hear the report of the National Hunger March~- ers on Thursday, Dee, 17. The report reached a high point when the speakers touched on the numerical strength, burning enthusi- asm and the leading role the Negroes in the march took in the struggle for unemployment insurance. The mass of workers present, which also included many women who came with their children, let it be known they stood for the Workers’ Unem- ployment Insurance Bill and winter Telief. A spirited resolution, backing this bill and immediate winter re- lief, was unanimously adopted. No less than 60 joined the Unem- ployed Branch in Jamaica, which al- ready has a membership of 5, and, although in its infancy, has already forced a certain meaure of relief to a number of starving families. The meeting concluded with the election of a mass delegation to present on the following day a number of local demands to the president of the Boro Council in Queens and to Mr. Hoff- man, head of the fake emergency re- lief committee in Central Queens. Workers spontaneously rose from the audience and offered to be spokesmen for these demands. Many others will accompany the delegation. starving workers. Alone, the mothers had been sent back and forth from the police station to the Community Settlement for weeks, without any results. All of them owed rent, many had no gas or electric. One woman told of having six children at home Sleeping on the floor, the beds hay- ing been sold. Husbands and chil- dren in the hospital with no money to pay the doctor bills, The social worker in charge of the charity joint was taken back at the lareg delegation and pleaded that. the Unemployed Council should only bring the names of those who need help and everything would be taken care of. But the crowd was there and later in the day the charity was forced to pay rent, gas and elec- tricity, $52 doctor bill and promise $9 @ week in food for one family and to the rest give $5 in food immediately and promise to keep up the payments as long as necessary. Also, every worker registered through the Un- employed Council will not be evicted. Sixty workers joined the Unem- ployed Council on the day the dele- gation visited the charity. : 2 P.M, Dail | Sunday, January 3rd ADMISSION 35¢ DEMONSTRATE 8th Anniversary of the 1932 ——PROGRAM—— orker Doty USA Bronx Coliseum East 177th Street Pageant:—“Trial of the Yellow Press,” International Chorus Red Dancers—and many other features WITH THROW AWAY 25¢ TO THE BROWNSVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD! You are cordially invited to come to the Opening of the Pitkin Cafeteria 1781 Pitkin Avenue ‘(Near Stone Ave., Brooklyn) TODAY, TUESDAY, DEC. 22nd This cafeteria will be one of the best in the heart of Brownsville. The decorations are beautiful. A regular paradise where you will feel at home. A variety of meats, vegetables, and diary dishes. All our cooking is done in our own bakery. The prices are very reason- able where every worker can get a good meal for a very low price. COME IN AND CONVINCE YOURSELVE. WE WANT TO ° KNOW YOUR OPINION. se