The Daily Worker Newspaper, August 1, 1930, Page 3

aati Wl thet DAILY WORKER, NEW YORK, FRIDAY, AUGUST 1, 1930 Che Sika ale Page Three Whalen Forgeries A re Exposed! Workers! Smash the Imperialist War Plot Against the Soviet Union! STATEMENT OF ‘OHN L. SPIVAK, view of the testimony given by former lice Commissioner Grover A. Whalen be- this Congressional Commission a few days which attacked my integrity as a news- r man, I asked this committee’s permission opear before it with evidence to show that Whalen’s accusations are unfounded. I am eful to you for extending me this courtesy. r. Whalen charged first, I am a Commu- and second, that I. attempted to bribe one ‘ge Djamgaroff, of 655 Fifth Avenue, to that the so-called Red documents were for- ie alleged Red documents released to the s by Mr. Whalen play an important part in ‘ investigation into Communist activities, If in be established that I am a Communist, ots may be cast upon my motive in uncover- the fact that they are forgeries. So I shall take up the accusation that I am a Com- No Evidence should like to call to the committee’s at- ion that Mr. Whalen, Police Inspector Ly- nor the secret monarchist agent, Djam- rff, were able to produce evidence proving cv assertions. They contented themselves 1 merely making accusations. They offered Djamgaroff’s press agent, Captain a high-powered publicity man, made same accusation when my first story ap- exposing the Whalen documents as for- e; He made this charge, asserting that ume from Djamgaroff, to Martin Weyrauch, 1 publisher of the Graphic, and to Howard nn, managing editor of this same paper, in presence, At that time I insisted upon evi- ce, that I am a Red. Maines said that he not have it, but Whalen, according to Djam- off, did and I insisted that this be checked proof. s a result, Mr. Weyrauch and Mr. Joseph en, associate publisher of the Graphic, met Whalen and Inspector Lyons to hear what lence they had against me. Neither Whalen Lyons were able to produce any. Jevertheless, we find Whalen, Lyons, and vmgaroff still making charges before this y which they cannot support. I most re- ctfully urge that this committee compel Mr. alen to prove the charge that I am a Com- nd, Mr. Whalen asserts on the word of s Czarist monarchist agent that I offered a ve to say that the documents were forgeries, . Whalen in a statement from Djamgaroff in the name of one Horan, spelled Horn testimony, as also having approached 1. I shall deal with Mr. Horan’s part in s expose later on. want to go on record as unequivocally de- ing that I ever offered George Djamgaroff anyone else a bribe to say that the docu- nts were forgeries. I interviewed Mr. Djam- roff twice, the details of which will be given their proper place in the story of uncovering » forged: documents. Documents Forged Mr. Whalen, in his usual broad way of as ting things without offering proof, testified der oath, before the, committee, that Max agner of 204 East Tenth Street did not print 2 letterheads upon which the photostatic cop- of the forged documents were made. Never- cless, the fact remains that Wagner signed a afession that he did print these documents; at Wagner produced blank letterheads of the cuments which Mr. Whalen said came from IScOW. The printing on these blank letterheads illied exactly with the printing on the forg- d documents released to the press by the hen commissioner of police. Considerable light is cast upon the reliability aceuracy of Mr. Whalen’s informant, by e George Djamgaroff, his statements, and halen, mpon the strength of Djamgaroff’s 1, said “Spivak was at one time a Moscow fepresentative and while so employed 1s put ap in a castle by the Soviets.” I was Moséow correspondent for the International ews Service. Whether the Soviet govern- ent put me up in a castle-can best be testi- d to by the Honorable Chairman of the ommittee, with whom I had the pleasure of nching at the Savoy Hotel in Moscow, where lived during my stay in Russia. Iam _ villing ) let Mr. Fish testify whether the Savoy was castle. That statement alone gives the com- ittee an idea of Djamgaroff’s accuracy. Questioned Documents When the then commissioner of police of ew York so cheerfully handed out copies of hotostatic documents to the press with assur- nees that they were genuine, doubt was im- rediately raised as to their authenticity, not nly by the officials of Amtorg Trading Cor- oration, but by experience with similar al- ged documents in Europe. When Mr. Howard Swain, managing editor of the Graphic, told me to get at the bottom of these forgeries, I recollected the forgeries about Senator Borah, the English forgeries that wrecked Prime Minister MacDonald’s regime, and the other forgeries exposed time after time and shown to be the work of Rus- sian monarchists seeking to get money for them or to create antagonisms against the Soviet government. The first thing I tried to do was to see the originals of these documents. I wanted to see she paper on which they were written, the type yn its letterheads, the typewriting in the let- er, etc. At my request, Joe Cohen, the asso- siate publisher of the Graphic and formerly its political correspondent, called upon Mr. Whalen with the request that I be permitted to see the originals. Whalen refused to show the origi- nals, saying that a criminal investigation was being conducted because of them, and that he was going to appear before this committee in executive session in Washington, after his ap- ' pearance before the committee, he would let Mr. Cohen know whether I could see the origi- aal documents, American Type Failing to see the originals, I took copies of che photostatic documents to the Underwood ‘Typewriting Company and spent several hours with their type experts to determine whether the type was of an American make. They finally decided that the type used in writing the letters on these documents sup- posedly coming from Moscow, were actually written on Underwood Roman Russian 9 pitch machine of their make, I then started an inquiry to ascertain whether the type used in printing the letter- heads upon which the Whalen documents were written were of American make, I learned that the Hoffman Type Foundry Company, of New York City, manufactured type of the kind used in printing the letterheads of these Wha- len documents. Among those who had been buying this kind of type from the Hoffman Foundry was one Max Wagner of 204 East Tenth Street. I called upon Mr. Wagner, in- troduced myself as a reporter and asked if he had any type similar to that on the letterheads of these photostatic copies which Mr. Whalen released to the press. He said he had. I asked him if he had ever seen these letterheads be- fore, and he said “I do not remember—why, is it a crime to print a letterhead?” It was these sentences that made me accuse him of having printed these letterheads. He consistently denied it for over an hour. I asked him if he knew what the word Moscow meant and he said he did. I asked him if he had ever printed a letterhead with the word Mos- cow on it for a date line. He replied “I do not remember.” I asked him if he knew what the word Comintern meant. He said he did. I asked him whether he had ever printed a letterhead with that word on it. He again replied that he did not remember. By that time he was quite worried, and he asked me what business I had questioning him, I took out my police card, a card issued to reporter. by the police d-partment and showed it t’ him. In large type on this card is printed “Police Department,” above it in small letters the word reporter. \. gner said, “Well, why did you not tell mc you were from the police department, instead of saying you are from the Graphic.” I asked if that would make any difference, I assured him that Police Commis- sioner Whalen would be very interested in knowing whether he printed those letterheads. After this I asked him again whether he had printed them. And again he replied that he did not remember. I turned to him and said: “Will you sign a statement that you do not remeniber whether you printed these docu- | ments? He said he would. He took a sheet of paper, and I told him to write out his state- ment that he did not remember printing those letterheads. Wagner wrote slowly in longhand and when he finished I told him to sign it. The statement was utterly worthless as evi- dence, but I figured on the psychological effect of signing a statement stating that he did not remember printing those letterheads, I put the atement in my pocket, + umples of the type and samples of other bits of printing ‘“‘sh he had done with that type. I noticed that Wagner was growing more and more nervous as th time went on. Suddenly he turned to me and said, “You do not look like one of the ordinary detectives. You do not shout at me and browbeat me and threaten fo hit me. I see that you are a gen- tleman. Now I will tell you something if you will give me your hand that no harm will come to me.” Russian Ordered Letterheids I gave him my hand, and assured him that no | harm would come to him if he told the truth. He said “Give me that paper,” referring to his signed statement. I gave it to him and he tore it up. He then turned to me and said “Yes, I printed those letterheads, but you must protect me. I have got a wife and children.” I asked him for whom he had done the job. He said that some four months before, a Russian came to his shop and ordered three different kinds of letterheads, telling him to set them up.” I asked Wagner if he knew who the man was. Wagner said he did not, but that he would recognize him if he ever saw him again. Wagner described the man as a Russian about forty years old, tall, somewhat dark and clean shaven, and of ve., neat appearance. Two or three days after this order was given, said Wagner, the Russian appeared again and took three or four sample copies of the proofs. That was the last Wagner saw of this Russian and of the proof letterheads, until he saw them in the newspapers, purporting to be documents issued from Moscow. I asked Wagner if he had completed the printing job and he said he had not, because the man never O. K.’d the proofs, I then asked him whether he had any other proof of letter- heads left. He said he thought he had some in a huge drawer containing several thousand throwaways, leaflets, etc., printed in English and Russian, I told him I wanted those letter- heads if he had them. He said he would look for them that night and give them to me the next morning. The next day was a Friday, I believe, the day on which Commissioner Whalen was to appear in executive session before this com- mittee to present his evidence, I told Wagner that the next day would not do and that I must have them that night. Wagner searched for them and dug out two letterheads which Congressman La Guardia placed before in the hands of the Rules Com- mittee for its use and the use of your com- mittee. I told Wagner that I wanted him to sign on the back of one of the letterheads that he had printed them four months ago. Wagner did so, and his confession is on the back of one of the letterheads now in possession of the Rules Committee or of this committee, Shown Whalen After obtaining the blank letterheads and Wagner’s confession I telephoned Howard Swain at his home and told him what I had. Swain told me to meet him at the office. I showed Swain the letters and the confession and Swain notified Martin Weyrauch. We de- bated the advisability of breaking the story at the same time that Whalen appeared before your committee in its executive session, but we finally concluded that in view of the impor- tance of these documents it would look as tho the Graphic had deliberately permitted the po- lice commissioner to go to Washington and to make a fool of himself. It was then decided that these documents should be shown Whalen immediately for comparison with the originals which we then thought he had. Mr. Swain telephoned Christie Bohnsack, Mr. Whalen’s press agent, told him what we had and asked him to arrange an appointment for us. Bohnsack tried but failed, We kept on trying all night to reach the commissioner. At six o'clock in the morning Swain said for both of us to go to Whalen’s house, ‘ John L. Spivak, the author of this statement, is not a Communist. He is merely a reporter for the corrupt capitalist press. With many inter- pretations of the facts brought out in his statement we are partially or wholly in disagreement. The document, however, which was suppressed by the bourgeois newspapers, establishes without doubt the intimate con- nections which exist between the departments of state and labor in Hoo- ver’s administration and the strikebreaking bureaucracy of the A. F. of L., the National Civic Federation and the counter-revolutionary Russian white guardists in the carrying through of the imperialists’ war preparations against the Soviet Union and the wage-cutting offensive against the Amer- ican workers. For this reason we publish this interesting docu- ment.—Editor. We went there and sent word up that the managing editor of the Graphic and one of its reporters wanted to see him before he left for Washington. Whalen declined to see us. We returned to the office and Swain told me to get on the train with him and show him the documents that I had secured before he appeared before your committee in executive session and made a fool of himself. I got on the train and sat in a chair just outside Mr. Whalens state room. I sent in one of the letterheads as evidence that I did not seek an interview but actually had important information to give him. Mr. Whalen sent out word that he would see me in a little while. Carried Daily Worker. During the entire trip Mr. Whalen, Inspector Lyons and several others of his entourage were busy with a suitcase full of Daily Workers. As the train drew into the Union Station in Washington, I saw that Mr. Whalen would not see me and I sent word in that I wanted the original letterheads back. He returned it with- out comment. Mr, Whalen and his associates, still lug- ging the suitcase full of Daily Workers, took a taxi for your committee and I took another for the House Office building. I called at Mr. LaGuardia’s office and was informed that he was on the House floor. I went there and sent word in that I wanted to see him. He came out and I showed him the original letterheads and the photostats. La Guardia heard the story of Whalen’s refusal to see me and suggested that we go to his office where we could talk quietly. In his office we studied both the original letterheads and the photostatic copies for a long time. Then he sent his secretary to get a magni- fying glass and with the magnifying glass he discovered those fine minute printing points which were on the original letterheads given to me by Wagner and on those docu- ments which Mr. Whalen released to the press. No Protection. IT called LaGuardia’s attention to the fact that if these things came out the police de- partment might proceed against Wagner, and asked him to see that Wagner was properly | protected, since we could not go to the police department and ask them to protect him. La Guardia called Mr. Hoover at the Department of Justice and told him about the documments, the printer, and the fact that he would prob- ably need protection and asked that a Depart- ment of Justice agent take Wagner in charge to protect him against any possible move the police might make against him. Mr. Hoover, according to Mr. LaGuardia, said that he could not move unless he were instructed by a gov- ernment body. Mr. LaGuardia then called the State Depart- ment and talked to Secretary Stimson explain- ing what he had been given and urging the State Department to ask Mr. Hoover to take | the necessary steps. Secretary Stimson sug- gested that Mr. LaGuardia call Mr. Robert Kelley, I believe, head of the Eastern Division of European Affairs. They carried on a con- versation for some time and when Mr. La Guardia hung up, he turned to me and said: “the secretary says from what he has heard of the documents he does not place any con- fidence in them.” Mr. LaGuardia then called Mr. Kelley. Mr. Kelley informed him that since we did not rec- ognize Russia he could not interfere in this matter, LaGuardia Astonished. Mr. LaGuardia was astonished at the in- ability of the government to do anything and in view of the fact that $25,000 had been asked for an investigation a good deal of which was based on these forged letters, and in view of the fact that the Amtorg Trading Corporation was buying $150-$200,000,000 worth of American goods every year, it was a matter for the attention of Congress, He decided to denounce the Whalen documents on the House floor, on Monday. 1 left Mr. LaGuardia and went around to see some old newspaper friends of mine before taking a train back to New York. I told them what I was working on and one of them told me that he had heard that a Washington news- paper man had been offere! these documents for sale, weeks before Whalen issued them to the press. I learned this newspaper man’s name and went up to his office to interview him. He told me that he would tell me about it on one condition that I did not use his name or the name of his organization in my story because he did not want to get mixed up in this thing. I promised him and he told me, that some six weeks before Whalen issued these docu- ments to the press, an intermediary for an- other person approached him with an offer to sell certain documents purporting to be from Moscow and involving the Amtorg Trad- ing Corporation in subversive propaganda in this country. This newspaperman refused to bite. He said that past experiences with such documents showed that they were forgeries and he was not going to take a chance on them. He did not even see them, he told me, no question of price came up because he had said immedi- ately that he was not interested in the offer. Monarchist Agent. I proceeded digging around a little further and learned that a secret agent of the Russian monarchists was in New York. His name, I was informed. was George Djamgaroff, of 655 Fifth Avenue and that he knew all about the forged documents. That afternoon I found George Djamgaroff’s name in the telephone book and called him up, telling him that this was John L. Spivak, of the New York Graphic, and that I wanted to see him. I went to his office and found him sitting at the desk litted high with clippings from newspapers detailing Soviet, Anti-Soviet and Communist activities. On top of this huge bunch of clippings were those containing photostatie copies of those that Mr, Whalen had releasedd to the press. Djamgaroff greeted me in friendly fashion and said “First of all I want to know what you want, whether information or an inter- view.” I saw immediately that he was pretty smooth, and I thought I could get him talk more if I came there for information instead of for an interview. He said: “TI will give you all the information that I can but I don’t want my name mentioned, under any circumstances.” I promised not to mention it and did not mention it until Mr. Whalen came out with his statement. I told Djamgaroff I wanted information about Soviet activities in this country. I did not tell him that I had the blank letterhead. Mr. Djamgaroff beamed and filled me up for more than an hour with some fact and a good deal of fancy. Monarchist Leader. During the course of this conversation I asked him how he happened to know so much about the Soviets and whether he was a mon- archist. He said very proudly that he was one of the leaders of the monarchist movement throughout the world, that he had control of a vast espionage system in this country, that his files contained lots of information gathered by his agents both here and abroad about Soviet activities, and that he had an agent in Washington who would help me in getting ma- terial against a man named Swirsky who, ac- cording to Djamgaroff, was the unofficial am- bassador of the Soviet government in this coun- try. I asked Djamgaroff to give me a note of introduction to this agent and that I would go to Washington to find out all I could. He said that that would not be necessary because his agent was coming in that eyening and he would arrange for me to see him, I asked him why his agent was coming to New York and he said, “I do not know but he telephoned me | that he was coming about something impor- | tant.” I asked Djamgaroff what he thought of the documents released by Whalen to the press, whether he thought them authentic, Djamga- roff smiled and said, “TI do not want to say definitely that they are or are not authentic. You know,” he ad- ded, “I knew about these documents four months ago.” Parenthically I might add that this coincides with the time that Wagner says he first print- ed them for a Russian. Then a little later Djamgaroff said that he was called in by Whalen to pass upon these documents and he had told him that he thought they were auth- entic, Showed Police Card. I asked him how he came to know Whalen, and he said, “Oh, I know Whalen very well.. . Like this,” and he crossed his fingers to show very close association. I looked a bit incredu- lous and he said, “Well you showed me your police card and I'll show you mine.” Where- upon he took out a police card and showed it to me. It was made out to the A. B. C. News Service. Its number was 1163. 1 asked him if I could take the number of his card down and he said “no,” taking the card back immediately. Why a bonafide newspaper man, if he were one, should be afraid to give any one the number of his police card is a mystery which perhaps Mr. Whalen can explain, I jotted down the number a little later in the conversation. A desultory conversation was then carried on for a few minutes. He got up and went into another office. When he returned he said to me, “By the way, are you the Spivak who was the Moscow correspondent for the International News Service?” I said I was. He said, “They didn’t like you very well, did they?” referring to the Soviet Government. I left with some disfavor on their part against me. He said, “That's what my records show.” Since his rec- ords show that the Soviet Government did not look upon me with a great deal of favor, he expanded and became very friendly and spoke in detail about his connections with European Russian monarchists, the espionage system, etc., assuring me a friendly cooperation in dig- ging up any anti-Soviet material I wanted to get in Washington, Tried to Stop Story. That night I left for Washington. In the morning I telephoned Swain. Swain sald, “Do you know anybody by the name of Djamgaroff and a Captain Maines?” I said I did, and asked what was the matter. He said that Captain Maines, whom he also knew as a press agent had been ringing his telephone pretty near all night, telling him that Johnny Spivak was about to write a libelous story about Djamgaroff and that » Djamgaroff knew nothing about the Whalen documents. Maines persisted in telling Swain that I had been given a wrong steer and not to print the story. At this point, I should like to remind the committee that I had not told Djamgaroff that I had those documents, but apparently Djam- garoff learned that I had them the moment his agent arrived in New York. That, it seems, was the real purpose of his mysterious reason in coming here so unexpectedly to see the monarchist leader. It is of interest to know where Djamga- roff’s agent learned that I had the original letterheads when the only ones who knew about them outside of Wapauch, Swain and LaGuardia were Mr. Hoover of the Depart- ment of Justice, Robert Kelley of the Eastern Division of the State Department and Secr retary Stimson. I pointed out to Swain that Djamgaroff had admitted to me that he was a leader of the Russian monarchists, that he knew about the documents four months before Whalen got them and that he had a vast espionage system and seemed to know a good deal about the forged documents, nad particularly that I had not told Djamgaroff that I had the original letterheads. Swain said not to worry about Captain Maines and his activities to stop the story but to go ahead and get to the bottom of the whole thing. Linked to Stimson. Djamgaroff’s statement to me that he had a vast espionage system getting information from high sources, was verified by the fact that he learned that I had the documents. I started digging around in accordance with the instructions from my editor, to get to the bot- tom of the whole thing. In the course of the investigation I Teathied that one Ralph Easley, secretary of the Na- tional Civil Federation, had had those forged documents in Washington six weeks before Mr. Whalen issued them to the press and that at the same time that those documents were offered for sale to the Washington cor- respondent. In the course of further digging I learned that a Mre ‘enry Loomis, sister- in-law of Secretary of State Stimson, had been contributing sums of money to the Rus- sian monarchists in the '’ S. and that among here proteges was the secret monarchist agent George Djamgaroff. Before I had time to check further on these new startling developments, Congressman La Guardia addressed the House of Representa- tives and denounced the documents as forgeries. That afternoon I called upon Robert Kelley of the Eastern Division of European Affairs of the State Department and told him that I had learned that Mrs, Loomis was contributing money to the Russian monarchists and that before proceeding with further investigation in that field I thought I had better see Secretary Stimson and inform him of these facts. Mr. Kelley looked very grave and said that most certainly the secretary should be informed and that he would make an appointment for me to see Mr. Stimson. We talked generally about the documents and Mr. Kelley informed me that the State Department was frequently offered similar alleged documents and that when they were investigated 99 out of 100 were found to be forgeries and that it was his impression from what he had heard of the Whalen documents that they too were forgeries. Mr. Kelley asked me to return at 3 o’clock that afternoon so that he could make an ap- pointment for me with Mr. Stimson so that he | could tell Mrs. Loomis “to cut loose from these Russians,” to use his exact words. Stimson Embarrassed. At 3 o'clock promptly I appeared at Mr. Kelley’s office. He informed that he had taken the matter up with Mr. Stimson’s first secretary and that Mr, Stimson knew that Mrs. Loomis was giving money to the Russian monarchists, of whom Djamgaroff was the American leader, Mr. Kelley said that most likely “these Russians were imposing on Mrs. Loomis,” but that nevertheless, should this fact be published it would undoubtedly prove embar- rassing to the State Department. I told Mr. Kelley that I had no authority to decide not to print a story, but that I would convey Mr. Stimson’s message to my editor and let him decide. Mr. Kelley said, “I om sure the Secretary will appreciate that.” I next called upon Hugh Kerwin, in charge of the Conciliation Department of the Depart- ment of Labor, who, I had learned, had seen the forged documents weeks before Whalen issued them to the press. I asked Mr, Kerwin bluntly when Mr. Easley had shown him those documents which Whalen had released to the press. Mr. Kerwin said, “Oh, about six weeks ago.” Easley, said Mr. Kerwin, frequently appeared in Washington with various bits of information and trundled it around to the Department of Labor and to the American Federation of Labor, the vice-president of which, Mr, Matthew Woll, was a gréat friend of Mr, Easley’s. I returned to New York, informed my editor of what I had learned, including the facts about Mrs. Loomis, and called upon Mr. Easley in his offices. Easley had seen the story which the Graphic has published. I asked Mr. Easley whether he thought the documents were authentic. He declined to say that he thought they were either authentic or forgeries. I then asked him where he had got them. He declined to say that he even had had them in Washing- ton six weeks before Mr. Whalen made them public. I then asked him if he knew a Russian monarchist named George Djamgaroff and he said he did not know any such person, A little later in the interview he admitted having met Djamgaroff “once or twice,” but knew nothing about him, He did not know where he was, or “on what side he was,” to use his exact words. Easley Notifies Djamgaroff I left Mr. Easley’s office and took a taxi immediately to Djamgaroff’s office. Less than ten minutes elapsed between the time I left Fasley and the time I walked into Djamga- yoff's office. When I walked in, Djamgarofi had a telephone receiver to his ear. I said, | “I am not here for information now, I am here for an interview, and what you say will be quoted, if you want to give me the interview.’ He said, “Yes, I will give you an inter- view. I know you just left Mr. Easley’s office. You know,” he added, “five minutes after you left my office Saturday I knew ne that you had those pocket.” I said, “I have plenty more material now, Mr. Djamgaroff, and if you want to have your lawyer with you when I interview you it would be a good idea, because this time I think the interview will be embarrassing to you.” Djamgaroff said, “All right I will give you an interview about an hour from now. I have to go see some one about this matter.” He left and an hour later I appeared at his office again. Djamgaroff was not there. Two hours after that, Capt. Maines, Djam- garoff’s press agent appeared. Maines asked me what it was all about and I told him he could sit in on the interview if he wanted to. Mainés then said, “Johnny, you’ve got the wrong steer. I’ve been watching this fellow for a number of years and he isn’t putting anything over on me.” I said that Djamgaroff was mixed up with the forged documents, and Maines said, “You're treading on dangerous ground, Johnny; how do you know but that he might be working for the State Department.” A little later he said, “Do you know, Johnny, there is a warrant out for your arrest.” I asked him on what charge and he became quiet. After about an hour with Maines, Djamgaroff appeared. He was highly nervous and excited. Djamgaroff ordered me out of his office, saying, “I dont want to’ !k to him. I don’t even want him in my office. I know who he is. He is not a reporter for the Graphic.” Maines said, “You see how he is Johnny, I cant do anything with him. Tell me where I can reach you in half an hour.” I told him that I was going down to The Graphie and he could reach me there, telling him to advise Djamgaroff that the wisest thing he could do is to come clean. . Efforts to Stop Story Upon my return to the Graphic I told Cwain that Maines had told me there was a warrant out for my arrest. Swain promptly informed Mr. Weyrauch. Weyrauch told me to stick arow..d the office u.. ilhe got back from a dinner appointment. About a half hour after I re- turned Maines called up again and said that he had a hell of a job calming Djamgaroff down, but that if we could meet the whole thing could be straightened out. He asked me to meet him and Djamgaroff at dinner, I de- clined to go. An hour later Weyrauch had returned to the office and Swain and I were sitting in Weyrauchs office when another gall came for me. I lifted the receiver and heard that it was Maines again. I motioned Weyrauch to pick up another telephone on the same line and listen in. Weyrauch did so. Maines. was very excited and asked us to hold up the story until he had a chance to see me. He asked me out again and again, I refused. I invited Maines to come to the office with Djamgaroff, assuring him that if I were wrong we would take the matter up with Weyrauch and straighten the matter out. Maines finally agreed to bring Djamgaroff to the office. At about 9:30 Maines appeared alone. We all went into Weyrauch’s office. At this méeting there were five people: Maines, Weyrauch, Swain, Joe Cohen and myself, As we sat around Weyrauch’s desk, Weyrauch said, “Before we get started on this, let us get this thing all straightened out. Whom do you represent?” Maines said he represented nobody. He was there just because of his deep-rooted affection for me. He insisted that he had known Johnny a long time and that Johnny was all right but that he had given a wrong steer, Weyrauch asked Maines whether he represented Djamgaroff and Maines said No. Weyrauch laughed and said, “Well, what are you here for then?” Maines reiterated that he was here to save me a lot of trouble, that I was about to write a story about a docu- ment which was unfounded. I do not recollect the detailed conversation at that point, but the question came up why Whalen had not seen me when I went to show him the forged document letterheads. “I'll tell you why,” said Maines, . because Johnny is a Red.” He added that that was what Djamgaroff thought, what Lyons thought, and what Whalen thought. Weyrauch commented upon the fact that he, unofficial visitor, actuated solely by affection for me, seemed to know what everybody thought. Wey- rauch then pointed out that as a matter of fact I had not asked Whalen to see me, that all the requests were made by Howard Swain, the managing editor, and that Whalen could not have known that I wanted to see him and not Swain. I insisted that Maines produce proof that I wasa Red. Maines said he coulin’t, but that Whalen and Lyons and Djamgaroff could, Meets Whalen. It was thereupon agreed that an appointment be made for Joe Cohen and Weyrauch to see Whalen to get proofs that the documents were genuine and that I was a Red. I might state here that Mr. Cohen and Mr. Weyrauch did meet Mr. Whalen and Mr. Lyons and that, both Mr. Whalen and Mr, Lyons were unable to sub- mit evidence that the documents were genuine and that I was a Red, This meeting lasted far into the night. When Maines finally left to go, he turned to me in the presence of the witnesses aforementioned and asked whether the newspaperman I had seen in Washington and whom I had mentioned in the story, was Horan. I refused to answer. I should like here to call the committee’s atten- tion to the fact that I had not mentioned the Washington correspondent’s name to anyone excluding Mr. Weyrauch and Mr. Swain, but now that Horan’s name had been brought out by Djamgaroff's statement to Whalen there is no further need of secrecy. The hewspaperman who had been offered the forged documents in Washington was Horan of the Universal Service. It is very strange indeed that Djamgaroff’s press agent knew the name of the newspaper- man in Washington who had been offered the forged documents, Thereafter Djamgaroff tried to reach Mr. McFadden personally. Mr. Wesley Pape, see- retary of the MacFadden publications, told Djamgaroff that if he had anything to say to say it to the editor and publisher of the Graphie because they were responsible for the story., Mr. Swain later told me that he had talked to Djamgaroff and that Weyrauch had talked to letterheads in your | Djamgaroff. I may say now that at no time in the conversation with Swain or We: raueh did Djamgaroff even intimate that I had ate tempted to bribe him. It is logical to believe (Continued on Page Four)